Sam Allardyce will never gain full support of Everton fans, says Kevin Campbell

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Sam Allardyce will never gain the full support of Everton fans, according to former Blues forward Kevin Campbell.

"I think Sam Allardyce has done the job he's meant to do by coming in and solidifying the club but taking it forward," Campbell said.

"I don't think the fans really take to him. I don't think they ever will and I think there's going to be a change in the summer because Everton are a year behind in their game plan.

"They really need to get somebody in there, get the plan in place and get that recruitment drive going. It might take some drastic measures to rip things up but if that's what has to happen, that has to happen."

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Scott Mongomery
1 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:00:33
Im not an Allardyce apologist by any means. I don't think hes the manager who will bring the type of success that we all dream of back to Goodison. We haven't played good football under him and he has done nothing to endear himself to the fans. But
He inherited a squad who under Koeman and Unsworth had taken 12pts from 14 matches and were playing with no confidence and were shipping goals to beat the band. A continuation of that rate of return would have seen us finish with around 33 points. Southampton are in 18th position with 32 points presently and have 3 games left. I realise any new manager would probably have come in and lifted the points per game ratio but you get my drift.
Allardyces Everton have taken 36 pts from their 22 games and if this had been the return from the start of the season we would be finishing with around 62pts. To put that in perspective, Arsenal have 57 from 35 games at present.
Im not saying we should keep Allardyce for next season because I don't think the style of football is going to get any better. Nor do I think he's a drawcard that can help to attract the type of players we obviously need.
I don't believe, however, that he deserves the level of vitriol that is quite evident on toffee forums and at the grounds. He was hired with the remit of steadying the failboat and limping to relative safety. This he has achieved and with a points per game ratio which had it been from the start of the season would be competitive with Europa League chasing teams.
Im not thanking God for Sam Allardyce, but I don't think hes the devil hes portrayed as either.
Don Alexander
2 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:10:40
Fair comment Scott but the match-going supporters are paying the same admission as other fans and a number of other clubs are serving them steak whilst we have to endure gruel, for years. That's unacceptable from the club who've royally buggered thing up in recent years and especially since Moshiri arrived. The club, not Allardyce, a here-today-gone-tomorrow merchant if ever there was one, need to feel the wrath.
Michael Nisbet
3 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:19:07
I don't think you can look at the points tally before and after Allardyce as any kind of measure of Sam's ability. Just coinciding with a massively easier run of fixtures in my opinion. I think we'd be more or less in a similar position just now if either Koeman or Unsworth were still in charge. I honestly don't think Allardyce has done a damn thing to help us. The one change he's instilled in us is that we are now massively boring to watch, and hugely unattractive to TV audiences.
Jim Bennings
4 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:50:23
Allardyce isn’t stupid and the fans certainly aren’t stupid.

This was never ever going to be a long term plan where Allardyce was going to build a dynasty over 5 or 10 years, he knew that and we knew that.

I still say to this day that the man really culpable for this is Farhad Moshiri.

Nobody can blame Allardyce for wanting a big contract and no matter what people will throw at him, he will walk away this summer and say he’s done his job plus a little bit more by finishing potentially 8th.

I can’t really be arsed with the animosity club that currently exists with Allardyce, he’s done no worse than keeping Koeman nor has he done any better if we finish 8th.

I don’t want nor expect him to stay but that’s down to Everton’s board to sort out.

I just hope Moshiri gets this next crucial decision right because we can’t keep going through managers after the financial backing the last two have had.

If it’s Fonseca, Silva or Howe or someone else I just hope we aren’t hearing the same abuse aimed at them after three months that Martinez, Koeman and now Allardyce have endured.

The next plan has to be viewed as a longer term strategy where the manager has patience from both fans and board to make his own mistakes and learn from them.

Tony J Williams
6 Posted 03/05/2018 at 12:10:04
Scott, I find it hard to find any sympathy for a man that is going to get handed about £6-8million for a few months work.

He has thicker skin than a rhino and played a blinder by getting an 18 month contract.

Phil Sammon
7 Posted 03/05/2018 at 12:44:58
If a humble man had come in and done the job Sam has, I’d say thanks and show him the door. The fact that Allardyce is such a nasty, egotistical individual only makes his sacking more enjoyable.
John Pierce
8 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:10:00
Campbell deserves little credit for jumping on a bandwagon so laden with antisamists that it’s standing room only!

No credit from me, no pat on the back. If he had gotten on with the job and showed so class, instead of being crass then you’d still want him removed but could muster a ‘okay fella thanks for that’.

The guy I’m really gunning for is Moshiri, I don’t care even if the man is monied to the hilt. He has made a string of poor decisions.

If he has any sense he brings in the DoF that can take away the pressure of appointing/sacking a manager and misjudged musing with Jim White.

If he continues to bumble along then the irony of Everton finally hitting the rocks when ‘we have’ money will be a fitting epitaph.

Daniel A Johnson
9 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:20:30
Look at liverpool

Clever recruitment of players and a good manager. They are in a champions league final now.

If Allardyce stays it says everything I need to know about Mr Farhad Moshiri and his so called project. Allardyce simply cant stay.

Phil Walling
10 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:24:58
Daniel, do you think Kenwright will tell Moshiri as much before he, himself, is moved out of office ?
Daniel A Johnson
11 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:28:14
I don't know but at the moment all I think Farhad is after is building a stadium to sell us for more money a few years down the line.

If we can tread water in 6th,7th,8th season on season I honestly believe he would be happy with that.

Phil Walling
12 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:35:23
You may well be right, Daniel because Moshiri will have learned that he can sell out our present ground by serving up shite. He's realistic enough to have realised by now that 'Top Six' status needs more than he has to invest. Seventhish it is, then !
Jer Kiernan
13 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:58:51
Delighted to hear this from KC, And even if hes is saying what everybody is thinking and indeed what everybody is saying, ,so be it

If it helps to get FS launched I am for it..This for me is very much a case of no decision being worse than a bad decision

James Hughes
14 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:15:08
This has been Done To Death. Sam Allardyce was never a manager that fitted the EFC job description or profile.

His functional football would have suited the England job, he lost that option as we all know.The expose of him needs no explaining,the fact that it was along time 'friend' and journo that blew his cover speaks volumes.

The football he has us playing is the worst I have ever seen ever. The man needs to exit with dignity. I don't know him, but have the feeling that will need to be mansplained to Sam.

Paul Swan
15 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:25:39
If indeed Allardyce came in and took the players by the scruff of the neck and really played a formation which was solid and difficult to beat and defensively solid, then there could be few complaints because that was what he was asked to do. The main problem was that in many of the games we gained points under him initially, we were bloody lucky with only the poor finishing or the woodwork coming to our aid - Benteke for example could have scored 3 against us. Defensively and positionally we have been all over the place under him and there is not one player who he improved. Let's be absolutely clear here, if he stays it will be absolutely more of the same rubbish next year. We need a complete overhaul with the coaching staff and a lot of the mercenary dead wood to also follow him out. We have highly paid seasoned professional footballers who can't complete simple 3 yard passes to one of our own players. Let Garth Crooks and Shearer pay to watch the shite we have witnessed week n week out since he took over and see how happy they would be. Everton football club and the loyal support deserves better.
Frank McGregor
16 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:36:45
Scott#1 A common sense post that I totally agree with. Yes Sam Allardyce is not the long term answer to Everton's managerial problems neither was Martinez and Koeman.

Unfortunately there is no proven candidate out there at the moment to move the club forward so face the fact that we have to bide our time to get the right person even if it means living with Allardyce for another season.

Jumping full tilt in hiring the likes of Fonseca or Silva etc. who really do not have really proven records is not the answer.
Dave Abrahams
17 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:16:38
I'm also delighted Kevin Campbell has spoken out at Allardyce staying at Everton, a few media pundits have said we are lucky to have had him as our manager and we are ungrateful for wanting him to go, this last few days we've had Rooney and the club captain saging they are behind Sam, Kenwright has also thanked him so it's good to see an ex player with no vested interest giving him the thumbs down.
Tony Marsh
18 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:40:06
Those of you that think Allardyce is leaving soon or Kenwright wants Sam out, then go and buy tonight's Echo. If you don't live on Merseyside, go to the Echo website. Says all you need to know in black and white.
Peter Gorman
19 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:41:36
I've nothing to add but to point out how super Super Kevin Campbell is.
David Barks
20 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:43:44
Neville Southall has also been on Twitter to demand the Board stop accepting failure.

Well done Liverpool FC champions league final
Now can our board realise this is where we want our club to be
Anything below first is a waste of time
Show us some ambition please
Nothing but the best

Jer Kiernan
21 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:14:18
Ask Garth Crooks if Fat Sam is good enough for Spurs ?? Answer NO

Well we still (just about) have a better history and prestige than them so he is definitely not good enough for us

Best of luck to all brave enough to organize and partake in the protest for Saturday night, I am hoping the fans will join in harmony to give Fat Sam, Kenwright and their like the proverbial middle finger.

And every other pundit/supporter of lesser Clubs who feel we should know our place. They are concerned solely with selling a product and can fuck right off.


Tony Everan
22 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:22:01
Look at the goal difference between us and the top 4, we are –50. We are light-years off the pace.

We need a new manager, investment in at least one or two top-quality players, new permanent revenues (or any forays into the top 4 will be fleeting) and an overhaul of training and backroom staff.

I can't see it all happening at least until we move into the new stadium. Whenever that may be.

As Phil says, 7th-ish it is then.

Dennis Stevens
23 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:41:29
Silly me, I didn't realise Koeman and Unsworth was a managerial partnership. Ta for the enlightenment, Scott "not an Allardyce apologist by any means" Mongomery.
Derek Turner
24 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:14:22
"Campbell deserves little credit for jumping on a bandwagon so laden with antisamists that it’s standing room only!"

But not in the media John, where they all think we are lucky to have him. What is wrong with wanting the "in your face" Everton Cambell remembers, never mind the school of science?

Why should we accept this shifty arrogant git who got sacked by England after a matter of days for ethics which are more than questionable and who uses tactics out of the dark ages.

NSNO.

Trevor Peers
25 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:21:35
Southall says we should demand the best manager, bring in the best coaches, buy the best players and start playing like our successful neighbours. Whose going to pay for it all ?
I've been demanding that for 30 years and it's never even remotely looked like happening. No harm in demanding though, that's the easy part.
John Pierce
26 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:44:17
Derek, I will not defend nor have ever defended Allardyce. A quick thumb over my posts will confirm that.

Whilst the media are happy to defend him, Campbell has just seized on the fans ill feeling that’s been there for months, it’s now at a tipping point, hence my disdain for him jumping on board. Savvy? Yes, very much so but just a personal PR move IMO.

Much like the lords and dukes who waited to see which way the war was going until they declared their Colours.

Just a fair weather type is our SuperKev.

Steve Brown
27 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:47:14
Trevor, who paid for it at Liverpool? FSG are no fools and invest carefully and wisely, both in hiring a top manager and an excellent recruitment policy. It still amazes me that Everton fans do not appreciate that we are a wealthy club now, unable to compete with Man City but we can certainly rival Liverpool. We are just very badly run with zero ambition in the club hierarchy, who should have all been removed within the first 12 months of his takeover. That has been Moshiri's biggest mistake.
Trevor Peers
28 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:11:49
Steve that's my point you can't buy good owners.
They buy the club and if they're crap we're stuck with them, that's the difference between success and failure. We've been badly run since Phil Carter was chairman.
Brent Stephens
29 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:19:33
I see Baningime has signed a new 4 year contract. I wonder who suggested that? Allardyce? If so, what does that tell us about his future at Everton?

Who else would have recommended this?

Ian Horan
30 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:40:12
Steve@27 wasn't part of the Moshiri investment in Feb 2016 that Kenwright stays chairman for 18 months. If correct the August exit would be correct. That's when we will see Mosh take us to the top table imo
Michael Penley
31 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:49:18
Big Nev is spot on - we deserve far better and as fans we should be demanding it. Anyone who is still attending games (and seriously, why would you want to with the shite on display?) should be ashamed of themselves for encouraging the Everton hierarchy to persist with this appalling guardianship of the club.
Ray Said
32 Posted 03/05/2018 at 19:09:33
One of the things I think we lack but Liverpool ( and the other clubs we are aiming to compete with again) have is an organisational structure filled with the right number of competent support staff working in key divisions under a clear strategy executed by a Chief Executive and overseen by a proper board. This is what Moshiri is trying to organise within the new headquarters at the Liver Building.

At the moment we have outsourced almost all of our functions and lack enough marketing, media and communications staff to do the sort of job Liverpool, the Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham demand. The club also does not offer the staff salaries available at those clubs.

One of the things that Denise Barret-Baxendale has shown in her work with Everton in the Community is an ability to organise that highlights what seems to be lacking in the rest of the club structure.

Hopefully Moshiri will soon complete the restructure, recruit the right number of high quality staff and this will boost turnover, raise the profile of the club and raise expectations.

Neil Pickering
33 Posted 04/05/2018 at 05:36:20
I’m probably going to get slaughtered for this but here goes...

I think a few of us have short memories when it comes to Moshiri. He came in a got rid of that fraud Martinez, which was 100 percent the right thing to do, then he appoints Koeman and Walsh, which at the time every fan to a man was made up with.

He then gives Koeman and Walsh a couple of hundred million(including players wages) and they proceed to waste it on absolute dross. They never addressed the issue every man and his dog could see which was a striker with a track record, pace and quality in wide areas, and quality cover across the back 4. Instead they collected number ‘10’s with no pace and further unbalanced what was an unbalanced squad in the 1st place.

Then we give it to Unsie after probably not pulling the trigger early enough on Koeman, and he proceeded to make us look like the dog and duck for a few games; the highlight for me was an away thumping at prolific Southampton.

At this point we quite rightly in my opinion had to find a stopgap manager who could steady us and try and drag us out of the shite that Koeman and Walsh left us in. Allardyce was a no-brainer in this regard, and he’s done exactly the job he was tasked to do. The football is shite, and he’s a bit of nobhead but did we really expect anymore given what we all know about him?

The real baddie in all this Koeman. That thumb headed idiot has left us with a bloated squad of players who are all on megabucks and will be very hard to move on. In my opinion he goes down as the worst manager I have seen at Goodison, and I include mike walker in that. The only decent bit of business he did was bring in Pickford and possibly Siggurdson.As for the rest- Keane, Williams, Martina, Klaasen, Sandro, Bolasie, Klasic, Schneiderlin, Rooney etc, they are all not the right players and probably were never going to be.

As far as the future goes, I would like to see Allardyce move on, but who comes in I have no clue. There is nobody on the horizon that I think would be a good fit. The Fonseca’s and Silvas of this world are as bigger gamble as unsie was for me, so maybe it means we have to sit tight and wait. Personally (again a huge risk) I like Arteta. Was a brilliant player for and by all accounts is developing into a great coach too.

But please let’s not slag off our owner. He put his faith in Koeman who looked like he would be the man, gave him hundreds of millions and backed him to the hilt. Now he’s trying to pick up the pieces..

Brian Porter
34 Posted 04/05/2018 at 06:35:11
Neil #33, whilst agreeing with you that Allardyce needs to go, I have to take exception to your point regarding Moshiri, " he appoints Koeman and Walsh, which at the time every fan to a man was made up with."

From the very beginning I and a small minority were speaking out against Koeman's appointment, based on his appalling man-management record at three of his previous 4 clubs which had seen him sacked from two of them, and leaving the other 'by mutual consent.' All the warning signs were there if Moshiri had bothered to carry out full due diligence prior to his appointment, but he was I think, blinded by Koeman's playing record rather than his record as a manager.

As for Walsh, once again, not all of us wanted him, and certainly weren't convinced by the need for a DOF, and still aren't. Please don't put us all into the same camp when it came to those appointments because it simply wasn't as unanimous as you think, in terms of our acceptance of the pair.

Dermot Byrne
35 Posted 04/05/2018 at 07:26:05
Yeah but the majority welcomes Koeman and Walsh Brian
Peter Gorman
36 Posted 04/05/2018 at 16:35:03
I don't remember even thinking Koeman was a good choice let alone being 'made up' (Walsh maybe) and did the due diligence of trawling the TW back pages to see that the 'every fan' thought he was a complete knob after the trouncing away to Chelsea (his 11th game in charge) and subsequent comments about Lukaku maximising his career.

In general I hate generalisations.

James Hill
37 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:30:20
We are a club in crisis because our supporters are so second rate.
James Hill
38 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:30:21
We are a club in crisis because our supporters are so second rate.
Brian Harrison
39 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:43:07
I see a certain paper reporting this morning that Everton players openly talking about Marco Silva being the next manager. I know a few months ago somebody said that Troy Deeney had said that Silva to Everton was nailed on for this summer. Now whether its just more fantasy I don't know, but one thing is for sure after Sunday the board will have to decide to sack or back Allardyce.
Brian Williams
40 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:44:46
Brian Williams
41 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:48:36
Anyone who is still attending games (and seriously, why would you want to with the shite on display?) should be ashamed of themselves .


What complete shite!

George McKane
42 Posted 10/05/2018 at 11:31:17
Michael Penley - - I am still attending games and have renewed my ST for next season and I am certainly nowhere near feeling ashamed - - I made my 78 minute protest at the last game and make statements in the Media and to The Club - - and to be truthful I have no need to explain myself to you.

If you don't go to the game - - that's your choice and prerogative - - - I don't say you should feel ashamed for that - - its up to you - - but never ever criticise me (or others) for going to the game or ask me to be ashamed.

Brian Williams
43 Posted 10/05/2018 at 11:51:34
George#42.
Hear hear, mate.
John McFarlane Snr
44 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:01:50
Hi Michael [31] Being hospitalised for seven weeks forced me to miss the following games, Brighton and Hove Albion, Manchester City, Liverpool, Newcastle United, and Southampton.

I have never missed so many games in one season since serving in the army in the late fifties, and I go to matches because Everton are playing and I'm an Evertonian.

Having attended matches at Goodison since 1948 and going to a fair share of away games, I have been disappointed, [many times] but never ashamed of being an Evertonian, and if I can regain my fitness I shall be in the Park End in August.

The expression 'Hope springs eternal' may mean nothing to you, but it's what keeps loyal supporters attending games, and 'Once a Blue, always a blue' applies to thousands of 'Loyal Evertonians'.

Rob Halligan
45 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:08:43
George # 42 and John # 44, well said. It's fans like Michael Penley we can definitely do without.

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