Pickford earns his England stripes and, hopefully, some respect from his doubters

When Colombia scored from the corner, I told my son that Jordan's save would be totally overlooked now because of what happened.

Justice was done though with his match-winning save during the shoot-out.

I'm hoping now that in the forthcoming TV furore the TV companies and pundits will see fit to show the save and the British footballing public will see just how good it was.

Dont worry, we are now a big club... right?

Imagine if De Gea leaves Man Utd and they want Pickford. Surely he would not turn down the opportunity.

Incredible save at the end of the game and if they hadn't scored from the corner it would have gone down as one of THE great world cup saves.

As it happened, we ended up with a different story - the penalty save, which was also one hell of a stop worthy of the history it might create.

He answered all the doubters and knockers in the best way possible, on the pitch.

Gary (Peter Perfect) Neville knows very little about goalkeeping, and Lee Dixon isn’t much better. They should get behind the team instead of nit picking.

Nice to see Shilton, Clemenceau and Seaman congratulating Jordan. Now they were goalkeepers of the highest calibre, and if they had criticised Jordan, they would have said so, but they didn’t.

So as far as I’m concerned Neville and Dixon can stick their heads where the sun doesn’t shine.

He wasn't terrible because he had an unconvincing performance against Panama. Similarly, he is not suddenly world class now he's saved a penalty against Colombia. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I've just said something similar on another thread. I cant stop watching that save. It was one of the best I've seen.

The Gordon Banks save from Pele is still, quite rightly, shown and admired nearly fifty years on even though we lost the game. Lets hope Jordan's gets the same recognition. I`m not saying his was a better save, but I genuinely feel it was in that bracket

I must say though, that save, best of the tournament so far and it looks better in normal speed than slo-mo, weirdly.

Typically, you have some commentators describing it as 'unnecessary... it cost us the game in 90 minutes [because] it was going wide'.

The nimbleness of his feet, the launch, the streeeecccchhh of his left arm, the strength in his fingertips to ensure the ball deflects wide...it was all top, top draw.

The failing at the resulting corner (Colombia's first in the game, at 93 minutes!) was the defence for not having two men blocking the run and leap of the known threat of Mina.

I blame neither Trippier on the post - very difficult to anticipate and react to a hard hit bouncing ball so close to you - and certainly not Jordan for conceding the goal.

Here in Brazil, at the end of each day, there is a WC round-up program. One of the sitting guests is Brazil's keeper at the last WC, Julio Cesar.

Naturally, he commented on the respective goalkeepers in the England-Colombia game. He actually focussed more on the respective performances of Jordan and Ospina in the decisive penalty shootout.

He flagged up how for the decisive Dier penalty Ospina actually gets a glove on it, but for Cesar "he doesn't go with conviction. His arm isn't fully extended and so his palm isn't strong enough to defend the ball."

By contrast, he saw Jordan as being more confident and decisive and how quickly he reacted to Bacca's penalty with a strong straight arm to beat the ball away.

Another endorsement from one of the world's top keepers for our boy!

He's getting some accolades in the written press too. I thought I had picked up on a fondness from the print journos towards our Jordan, Henry Winter shooting down a pundit on talk shite criticising his intelligence, another print journo pointing out he hadn't gone with his wrong hand against Belgium, and then his old mate David Preece fighting his corner on every show he goes on. Chris Kirkland was also saying Pickford was the best he ever played with.

I think there's a lot to be said for how Southgate has handled the media and how he's got the media on friendly terms with the players and they now feel obliged to be protective of their mates the players. Long may it continue.

RTE in Ireland talked about it as a wonderful save but I didn't here ITV even mention it.

Did hear Neville talk about Brazil though and naming each of their attackers as a threat (except Firmino).

Safe to say he hates them too.

But penalties are not one of those things. He went correctly on each penalty bar Falcao. A detail he revealed in his interview based on his and the coaches research.

As such I thought he went too early on all of them, I guess if you know which way you are going regardless why not go early!?

I think only Falcao had the intelligence to wait. Pickford is confident and actually increasingly single minded I think he has a very high ceiling. Southgate has, handled all his media duties very well, and re Pickford batted away any suggestions of wavering over him.

We will need him at Wolves day one that’s for sure!

The Gordon Banks save was magnificent, superbly athletic, but largely instinctive (although not many people have such instincts). Pickford, on the other hand (sic) had to watch a high, swerving, dipping ball, adjust his feet, leap, look as though he was going to reach with his right hand then went with his left, and stretched as far as he possibly could. And all the time, presumably, assessing whether he should just allow the ball to drift a millimetre outside his post! A campaign is needed to have this save fully recognised rather than it being lost amidst the shoot-out euphoria.

Jordan had a very good season but he did struggle with a couple of shots high to his left and right. He seems to be a very, very quick learner, and could become better than very good.

Incidentally, I think he went to his right for all the penalties last night. We saw him save one on that side last season, I wonder whether he will stick or twist if faced with any more spot-kicks?

However, he does have doubters, mainly because he has let in a lot of goals in the last 2 seasons, and he also has a tendency to push the ball back out into the danger area when he makes a save (as opposed to pushing it over the bar or out wide).

I don’t think he has had any over the top criticism. He is a young keeper still learning and, like De Gea a few years back, he has a mistake in him. But hopefully the mistakes will happen less and less, and he will give the defenders more confidence in him as he becomes a bit calmer with age.

Last night’s display will have done him the world of good, but he is still learning. He’s not suddenly the finished article because of that brilliant save he made near the end.

Danny, no one on here is declaring him world class, we're enjoying sticking two fingers up at those who made ridiculous criticism of him, particularly the “experts” like Neville who have never played in goal, whilst the real experts like Shilton, Southall and Preece called bullshit.

Anyone see the amazing stat on Pickford running more than any other keeper so far? Almost double what the rest have done. 7.5 km last night. Lukaku only did 8 km against Panama!

"He's a fucking legend"
"He's a fucking legend"
"He's a fucking legend"

Fucking hilarious

I saw that incredible stat too Steve, that Pickford covered nearly 7.5 km in last night's match. Here is the Echo story:

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Probably the key reason Southgate wants to employ him as his 'sweeper keeper.'

It's a real 'love in' on social media with Jordan today! His name and the slow-mo video of his save was trending big time on many platforms.

Hopefully the arseholes that are many in football media will now keep their cake holes shut.

Pickford will make mistakes all keepers do and I don't think he will get carried away making a couple of good saves either.

Pickfords reaction was what we expect from are players, Courtois well he is a Chelsea player so should we really be suprised.

Reports have us in for Mina from Barca: http://www.goal.com/en/news/everton-launch-24m-bid-for-barcelona-star-mina/5h4vkdk2bs0y184ml9ntqpead

When someone makes the outstanding save of a World Cup Finals tournament, and then follows it up minutes later with one from a penalty which I consider equally as good, and actually much more significant in the game, what the Absolute Eff is your definition of "World Class"? By these incidents, Pickford certainly fits mine whilst also not being defined as a 'perfect' goalkeeper.

Presumably the much more experienced De Gea and Courtois are World Class? Have you seen the two howlers De Gea has made in these finals, at least one of which was significant in a match? Have you seen the goals Courtois let in the other day, plus a spill which he had to scramble to retrieve?

Please get some perspective and objective measures for comparison.

"I thanked him, I can’t thank him enough, I’m forever in his debt. He says the Mackems stick together!

“You obviously fear the worst when you miss the penalty but Pickers has done brilliantly with the save. We’re a really close group, I think you can see that.

“It’s difficult when you miss and nothing can be said that’s going to make it alright but it’s not about me, it doesn’t really matter now, we won and that’s the main thing.”

Robson was considered by many to be the epitome of an England player. Would run through a brick wall for the team!

Well, Brya,n take your head out of your backside and get behind (excuse the pun) the team!!!

Hardly a mention of our Pickford, very strange considering we wouldn't be through without him. I don't know how they do it, but they do.

The question is, how confident do you feel with Jordan between the sticks? Mistake aside, I'd feel very confident in De Gea's ability. That's why he's world class.

Jordan needs to work hard at his craft like Neville's always did and iron out the deficiencies, which will come with more experience, but he has the potential to be one of the very best.

Just read the BBC article, unbelievable, but unsurprising too!

No mention of the save before the goal either, which was pretty stunning as others have mentioned!

But in many ways that doesn't bother me too much either.

As long as his own (ie, us lot at Everton) can see his value. From what I read on here, most of us do.

I would prefer us to constantly be overlooked but win rather than become the darlings of the pundits. I want them to constantly write us off and then look stupid when we win something. Seeing so many are RS lovers, that would make it even sweeter.

Personally I don't care what they think; I would rather go under their biased radar. Everyone who watched, knows.

Personally, I have no idea what went wrong. He is still playing now. Southall knackered his back. From the age of around 32, he trained less and less. It was around the time of the '95 FA Cup Final that he barely trained at all, as training took too much out of him and meant he was in too much pain for the game. Which is when he started to pile on the weight.

Anyway, Big Nev says that keepers should get better and better in their 30s as their experience tells, and they should be able to play past 40, unless injury means they are limited physically.

It's interesting to listen to Nev talk about training. He said some people felt the need to go out and go through the motions (he names Tim Flowers as one such person) and that the training is doing absolutely nothing for him. He said with others, it is better to sit in the pub and talk through things and they can get far more out of that!

Tim Howard was a very good keeper, around 4th or 5th best in the league, at his best, was very consistent, and overcame a disability to do so. He was also a supreme athlete, the first keeper I had ever seen who was built like that! I accepted him for the flaws he had, and loved the fact that he gave 100% to the cause and remains an Evertonian.

During Spain's last group game, the commentator mentioned that De Gea hadn't made a single save in the tournament — every shot on target had gone in. If he was English, he would be long gone by now. I recognise he is very good but world-class keepers make saves. I for one am very confident with Pickford between the sticks.

It's cool as you can slow it down to ½ , or ¼ speed. It's definitely on target all the way from Uribe's boot until maybe the penalty spot, where it's curving away more and more. I think it would have probably hit the post, but WTF! An absolutely brilliant save for the little fella!!!

Who was that incredible Mexican goalie... 2006 or 2010? It's all a blur to me now.

Great angle on the save.

Ah, here we are: Jorge Campos was an eccentric player, known for his constant play outside the penalty area – often functioning as a sweeper-keeper – as well as his acrobatic, risky, and flamboyant style of goalkeeping, and his colourful playing attire.

1994 and 1998... I was way off!

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