Transfer Deadline Day

Thursday, 9 August, 2018 343comments  |  Jump to last
The Premier League summer transfer window closes before the big kick-off for the first time this evening with all incoming deals needing to be done by 5pm.

Having taken the full close season to assess the squad they inherited from Ronald Koeman, Sam Allardyce and Steve Walsh, Marco Silva and Marcel Brands's recruitment drive has gone right to the wire with a few holes in the team that still need to be addressed.

The Blues started the proceedings by unveiling their third major signing of the summer behind Richarlison and Lucas Digne in the form of Bernard who underwent a medical yesterday and completed the formalities on a four- or five-year contract this afternoon.

There was a high degree of confidence, too, that the Yerry Mina saga would end in a successful conclusion which it did when completed a £28m switch from Barcelona.

Everton had been trying to secure a deal for the Colombian for a while now but despite late reported interest from Manchester United and Lyon, they won the race for his signature as he underwent a medical in Barcelona with Everton representatives having flown in to finalise things.

Another Barcelona player in Andre Gomes was also having a physical with a view to joining the Blues and his season-long loan was also done ahead of the deadline. The Portuguese, who had been linked with both Arsenal and Tottenham in the past, emerged as a loan target yesterday. He is currently recovering from a hamstring strain and would be unlikely to be ready for action until next month at the earliest.

Meanwhile, speculation around Chelsea's centre-half Kurt Zouma and Manchester United's Marcos Rojo ramped up this afternoon with L'Equipe reporting that Everton have come to an agreement over a loan deal for Zouma and the Telegraph suggesting the Blues were also in for Rojo at £22m.

The Rojo talk proved baseless but a deal sheet for Zouma was submitted just before the deadline, giving Everton two more hours to complete the deal with Chelsea.

In terms of outgoings, Yannick Bolasie, Sandro Ramirez, Muhamed Besic, Nikola Vlasic and Cuco Martina look to be the most likely, although depending on their destination, any transfers they might make could still be done by the end of the month.

Besic appeared to be the closest to leaving today with Middlesbrough actively trying to get a deal over the line after the Blues set an asking price of £6m, although it looks like it might be a loan again for now.

Martina might have joined him there with one report claiming the defender had agreed a season-long loan move to the Riverside but that does not appear to have come off.

Nikola Vlasic has reportedly attracted attention from CSKA Moscow where he could move on loan for the season.

Ademola Lookman won't be going anywhere it seems with Sky reporting to that effect this afternoon.

Sandro is said to have interested Valencia and, again, given that the deadline everywhere else is the usual 31st of August cut-off, there are still three weeks for him to find a new club if that is what he and Silva want.

If Bolasie is to get his preferred move to another Premier League club, he would need to seal any deal today given that Everton are only interested in a straight sale rather than a loan, according to Sky.  


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Si Pulford
1 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:04:20
If we lose:

Bolasie
Williams
Mirallas
Klaassen
Rooney
Robles
Garbutt

And bring in:

Bernard
Richarlison
Mina
Digne
And anyone else as a bonus

I will shoot my load.

Mike Kehoe
2 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:08:51
I have been very impressed with the progress made by M and M but can't help but worry that Schneiderlin remains and seems be first team starter. Koeman and Allardyce saw something in him that they felt merited a place and it seems Silva also has that same faith. As many others have observed down the years a lack of ability can be forgiven but a lack of effort cannot: it felt his attitude was toxic for the team.

In Schneiderlin many have felt angered by his apparent lack of effort and commitment, and like Mirallas, he should be offloaded. I have faith in Silva and Brands and if they can rediscover the Schneiderlin that impressed at Southampton then great.

It must be difficult to motivate millionaire players into the kind of fanaticism the likes of Klopp inspires. Since Schneiderlin got married to his incredible wife his energy levels and determination seem to have evaporated. It would be some trick to get him to make Everton his top priority.
Peter Roberts
3 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:13:27
Boro have until 5pm for a permanent deal, it's only loans that can be concluded up until Aug 31
Jim Bennings
4 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:21:04
It’ll probably take most of the day to finalise the Bernard deal so where that leaves other potential moves I’m not sure.

We badly need the Mina or Zouma deals to go through, to sign both is wishful thinking but if we don’t pull off a centre half coup in the next 8 hours or so then you do have major concerns about our defensive prospects this season.

Between now and 5pm is going to shape our season and arguably make or break it, much like the monumental failure to replace Lukaku last summer broke the 17/18 campaign into pieces before September was even done.

There is much resting on the shoulders of Cenk Tosun, both staying fit and making sure he is the man to score the goals (and in good quantity).

At £27 million we need him to have a good season and with no other overly convincing striker options it’s absolutely crucial for Tosun to be a goal scorer and focal point.


Chris James
5 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:26:01
Small request can ToffeeWeb update their transfer page please!!
Victor Yu
6 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:29:33
I hope we can loan Davies out for a year too if possible.

Jerome Shields
7 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:41:14
By the end of today, this transfer window could either be good or not so good. Everton is definitely a long-term project, but there is evidence they have moved up a gear, for as now no established reason. The change was signaled by the signing of Richarlison. At least Everton are heading in the right direction, unlike last year, which though much heralded had no rhyme or reason to it and was a rip-off as a result.

The pre-season has shown how much work needs to be done. Unfortunately it will take time to bed in the new additions and we will have to live with the weaknesses that still exist. Brands and Silva have a clear plan and have established the standard they want. Certain weak areas of the team have been exposed and players have a more realistic realisation of where they are in the pecking order in a Premier League team.

Brands has shown ability and has changed the perception of Everton as a serious football destination. He has given Everton the edge over rivals in the transfer market and exposed weaknesses, particularly in Man Utd. Silva has set his stall out in pre-season and set out the template of an offensive system, which Everton at their best were unrivalled. There is no hiding place for the attitude that has been a drag in performance for years. The backroom boys know they have to step up and don't feel as secure as they had been.

Everton are better placed now than they have been for years. We are off square one in a three-year plan, rather than needing more time for projects that never existed — only in the minds of those that thought in terms of contract extensions.


Kase Chow
8 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:41:53
Can’t help but fear we are being totally played and strung along by Mina

I really hope someone at Goodison has the good sense to say, ‘either he’s an Everton player by midday or get someone else in’

It would be RIDICULOUS if we don’t get a decent centre half or 2

And yet I can see it...

Victor Yu
9 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:52:22
I would also like to see Welbeck joining us with Sandro going out on loan.
Mark Tanton
10 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:54:42
SKY: "Yerry Mina very, very close."

If we finish today with Bernard and Mina then we have an excellent transfer window. We can be optimistic for the season. I think the pressing, energetic game Silva wants was beginning to emerge as the pre-season progressed, and there are many reasons to look forward.

Andrew Clare
11 Posted 09/08/2018 at 07:59:28
If we haven’t already agreed deals by now I can’t see much happening today.
Hopefully Bernard will happen this morning but as for Mina, Zouma etc who knows.
If we don’t sign two class central defenders today it’s going to be a very tough season.
Fingers crossed that we have a successful day and we are all very happy at the end of it.
Ray Smith
12 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:00:24
Can someone explain why on deadline day players cannot have a medical in their home country, conducted by an approved doctor?

It’s easy for a uk based player to travel anywhere in the UK, so why can’t a foreign player travel to a medical centre in their country of residence, to be examined by a qualified/recognised doctor?

Better still why don’t we send our medical team(s) to whichever country!

Other clubs have private jets on standby! However, I can’t recall us ever taking that option?

Does Moshiri have a private jet?

Si Pulford
13 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:01:19
Andrew I’m fully confused sent we will sign a CB today. Maybe even two.
Thomas Lennon
14 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:02:07
Three in today (including Bernard) would be the absolute best we can wish for. The season depends on one, preferably two CB coming in - though if one is a loan do we have more time for that?

Bernard & Mina could be the players coming in that makes the rest believe in this team. They could be the catalyst that makes others want to join today.

Then it is up to Silva to put us in the top 6 by Xmas.

Mark Tanton
15 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:03:16
Mina has been going on for two months at least, as the Digne talks were. If it's almost done, it could be that he can have a medical in Spain. I don't think we'll get two central defenders, but I think getting one in will make a big difference.

As I said somewhere else a while ago, I think Keane will come on if he gets the chance to play alongside a better, stronger defender at an earlier stage in his career. I don't think playing alongside Jagielka has been good for Keane.

Thomas Lennon
16 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:03:43
Oh! and Usmanov tomorrow would be very nice indeed.
Nick White
17 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:04:17
I really really hope we don't sign Welbeck, even on loan, Victor. 😄
Jerome Shields
18 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:08:04
Mike (#2),

Thank You for the insight into Schneiderlin's private life that I was unaware of — it explains everything.

Mike Keating
19 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:09:01
There goes my New Year's Resolution; I'll be on Newsnow for the next 9 hours!
Michael Lynch
20 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:11:56
I'd like two CBs please. Drinkwater would be my bonus prize.
John McGimpsey
21 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:20:21
Two centre-backs in along with Bernard, plus Davies & Bolasie off to distant shores would do me. But deep down another striker as Calvert-Lewin & Niasse can't cut it...

It's going to take another window to offload the mediocre pretending to be good footballers.

Sam Hoare
22 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:22:16
Bernard is done.

I’d like Zouma. Mina would be good so long as it’s unde £30m (I personally don’t like overpaying drastically). André Gomes looks risky to me, been poor in many appearances for Barca. Drinkwater on loan could be interesting.

Andy Williams
23 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:26:07
Mike. I shall see you there - every bloody 5 minutes. I always tell my lad to get off his phone yet this time of year all my holier than thou proclamations get thrown back in my face as I am glued to the thing switching from NewsNow to TW to BBC.
Stu Gore
24 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:26:29
These transfer deadline days always feel a little like Derby day to me. Massive buildup and almost inevitable disappointment. I will tell myself it doesn’t matter but will be refreshing webpages until 1:15 tomorrow morning just in case there is a surprise and Jim “transfer tooth fairy” White drops a world-beating midfielder down the Finch Farm chimney.
Colin Glassar
25 Posted 09/08/2018 at 08:30:56
Have to work today but will be keeping one eye on our transfer dealings. Why is the window closing so early and not at midnight? I suppose the yellow tie thing had become too stale.
James Marshall
26 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:12:00
I never look at NewsNow but just had a look through the Everton page - it's all just links to crappy 'news' sites who then cite SSN, BBC, or some newspaper or other isn't it? Entirely meaningless.

I'm going back to Googling 'Everton' 327 times a day.

Dale Rose
27 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:17:42
I have doubts about Mina, he seems to be very reticent about signing. There are loads of rumours about him being courted by other clubs. I know desire and loyalty are not what they were, but this seems to be taking the piss. Would prefer Zouma.
Steve Ferns
28 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:19:00
Jerome, the Schneiderlin's also welcomed their first child in the summer.
Steve Ferns
29 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:21:53
Dale, Zouma is now Man Utd bound.

It's the same for every player, why would they choose us over Man Utd, they've no loyalty to us. Utd can offer so much more in every aspect. Let's not worry that Mina didn't want to come here, let's worry that he settles and enjoys life here. He'll have his mates Lucas and Charlie to help him settle in, he'll play every week. I'm sure he'll be a true blue in no time.

Derek Knox
30 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:22:22
Mike Kehoe @2, spot on there mate, regarding Schneiderlin, anyone, no matter how much they cost, can have a dip in form or have an off day.

I think I have seen him have 1.5 decent games in all the time he's been here, which is not in my book a good return. After that incident with Mirallas last year he should have been out the door.

Mirallas has gone, but he remains, on the backs of the good signings we have, and are still making, it only takes one bad apple to destroy everything.

Dermot Byrne
31 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:23:18
In a paper it says:

"According to a report in the Daily Mirror, West Ham United made a ‘huge financial’ offer to Bernard, but he is set to sign for Everton instead."

Are we actually more attractive than West Ham now?

Step forward!

Thomas Lennon
32 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:29:45
Latest comment was that United want Maguire but Leicester specifically won't sell to United. Zouma is backup.
Andy Williams
33 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:29:59
James. It is much easier to deal with when you know which sites to have some actual news. For example if HITC have a headline such as Massive Everton News Future World Superstar Signs it probably means that Pennington has just gone on loan to Leeds.
Danny Baily
34 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:34:56
Where is this CB?! Newcastle have done a quick deal to pick up cover at CB due to injury problems. I'm still expecting to see someone come in in that position but we're cutting it very fine.
Chris Watts
35 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:35:50
Chelsea got the deal for £72m keeper sorted including medical in 24 hours. No idea why our medical stretch over several days or why we are down to the last 10 hours of the transfer window but it is what it is..

Finger crossed we have a good day and Mina has not been stringing is along

Lee Jamieson
36 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:39:17
Jose has told the Man utd press conference that there will be no new signings, so looks like Mina and Zouma have only two choices now. To quote the clash " Should I stay or should I go now"
James Morgan
37 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:40:44
Dermot, we should always be more attractive than West Ham, they’ve been relegated how many times in recent years. Bernard and Mina will be done today and Gomes is desperate to come, it will be a loan deal which will suit us to try before buying. We need another centre half though. Brands has been on the ball, massive credit to him, to shift out about ten or more players and bring in four or five quality additions, makes me positive for the future.
Ernie Baywood
38 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:42:07
I don't know, Dale. If you can't expect loyalty, then you might as well hope for someone who truly believes they can play at the very top level. It's better than someone who is thrilled to sign for us because they know no-one in the CL will go anywhere near them.
Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:43:21
I don’t know anything about this Gomez, Sam, but I expect loads of really good footballers, could fail at Barca, simply because they might not be able to adapt to the constant pass, pass, pass mantra?
John Keating
40 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:45:23
It's great to hear us hopefully sorting out positions we all know should have been sorted years ago.

However, how many of us have been on and on about us not replacing Lukaku's goals. We seem not to be mentioning his replacement.

Great making our defence more difficult to score against, great making our midfield more creative, but at the end of the day we still need someone to stick it in the net.

Dale Rose
41 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:49:30
I hope so Steve, I really do. I know we have had many false dawns, but I just get the feeling that this is the start of a great era for us, and that everyone is 100 percent behind the club, including our new recruits.
Chris Gould
42 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:52:11
Steve #29,
We don't know that Mina didn't want to come here. We have no idea what has caused the holdup. It could have been Barcelona wanting more money or hoping to use him as a make-weight in a Pogba deal. Barcelona have only recently accepted our offer. Nothing could be done before then. It's a huge decision for the lad. Maybe he weighed up all his options and then chose us? Maybe he wanted to come to us all along and isn't responsible for the holdup at all.

James #26,

That's basically what Newsnow does. It provides you with all recent Everton related links. The same reports you'll find googling, just a bit more convenient.

An absolute TDD necessity.

Mike Keating
43 Posted 09/08/2018 at 09:56:47
Why would Chelsea allow Zouma to join a Top 4 rival on loan?
Hope this doesn’t mean we end up with Smalling or Rojo.
Maybe the Newcastle signing means Lascelles is up for grabs after all (clutching at straws).
7 hours to go and counting .
Steve Ferns
44 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:00:10
Permanent deal Mike. They sold Matic to Utd last year. Chelsea is run more like a business now. Then again, they just spent £71m on a goalkepa.

Tony, I really like Andre Gomes. He is a very good midfielder. He is a number 8 (as in plays box-to-box). Great technique, great feet, excellent range of passing, excellent accuracy. He's tall but he's not strong. He's not good in the tackle. I hoped we might push him into the Schneiderlin role. My (Benfica supporting (Portuguese)) mate tells me not. I've not seen Andre Gomes that often, he's a Benfica player not a Sporting one, but I have watched most of the Portuguese national team games and he did feature often for them, but lost his place after he failed to play much for Barca. He's always done well for them.

The question is, do we need him when we have Sigurdsson, and what would it mean for Dowell?

Michael Lynch
45 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:03:23
Isn't Gomes out for a month with a hamstring injury?
Steve Ferns
46 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:05:05
Not sure how bad the injury is, but yes he did his hamstring in pre-season.
Mike Allison
47 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:19:03
It’s looking like Bernard, Mina and Andre Gomes.

I don’t know much about André Gomes as a player, only that he seems to be constantly linked with transfers to the Premier League, but I gather he could displace Schneiderlin in our strongest XI. He’s also said to be ‘desperate’ to make the move happen.

Personally there’s others I’d like to see; my own favourites are Lascelles, Loftus-Cheek and Welbeck but I don’t think we’re making serious moves for any of them.

Then again, I don’t know anything other than what can be gleaned from journalists on the internet, so I still hold out hope that we’re doing some clever things somewhat secretly. In this day and age however, it’s very difficult to keep these things secret.

Here’s to ignoring my phone until 5.30pm today (never gonna happen).

Jay Harris
48 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:20:30
Regarding the Zouma loan does this come under the 5pm deadline or do we have another 3 weeks to get him in?

I am pretty confident Mina is a done deal and the delay seems to revolve around Barca hoping Man U would show an interest to either jack the price up or as part of a deal for Pogba.

I was hoping for a goalscorer too but I suppose were getting greedy now.

As long as we get the CB and MF situations sorted out we can consider this a very good window.

Mike Keating
49 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:22:43
Post your phone number on here Mike and we’ll keep you updated EVERY 5 minutes

!

Steve Ferns
50 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:24:12
Jay, the window shuts for registration today. We can't sign anyone on loan after today. The 3 week thing is a red herring.
Paul Mackay
51 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:27:54
Steve I'm fairly sure you can still bring players in on loan until the end of August.
Mike Allison
52 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:30:22
I thought it was only Championship and below that can still loan until the end of August.
Martin Nicholls
53 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:31:15
Paul - PL teams can't. EFL teams can.
Jay Harris
54 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:34:48
Thanks for clearing the confusion Steve.
Paul Mackay
55 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:34:50
Yes your right- my mistake.

We need to get busy!

Paul Mackay
56 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:34:52
Yes your right- my mistake.

We need to get busy!

Rob Halligan
57 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:35:09
Burnley may try for Bolasie on loan.
Lee Jamieson
58 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:37:19
Perez signed at West Ham. Wasn't he linked with us before he signed at Arsenal? So glad we didn't get him but West Ham have splashed the cash this year. Hope it's all wasted.
Chris James
59 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:38:27
IF we had Mina, Zouma, Bernard, Richarlison and Digne coupled with the clearout of deadwood in the squad (Williams, Mirallas, Klassen all gone among others) that'd be a tidy transfer window with the new bosses delivering what they setout to do.

Hopefully we can get some cash back for Bolasie (never really understood that one) and ship one or two others out and obviously would like a box-to-box mid and a new forward, but it'd be a decent start.

Aidan Baker
60 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:43:36
The PL have decided to close their market before the season starts, with Everton being one of the strongest advocates having lost star players on deadline day.

The EFL have followed suit except they can still register loans until the end of August.

Other UEFA countries have the market open until the end of August, meaning that they can only sell or loan to the PL up until 5pm today but can buy and loan from PL clubs until the August deadline.

You get the feeling that some foreign clubs are quite relaxed because PL clubs will be wanting to get rid of certain large wage earners off their books after today. Meaning potentially that PL squads will only be finalised at the end of the month.

Where it will become difficult is where a PL star (a Pogba type say) decides he wants to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona at all costs after the window is shut. The PL who own him either have to live with a star who doesn't want to play for them or sell knowing that they can't buy a replacement until January.

Chris Gould
61 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:49:51
No new Lookman reports today. Seems to have gone quiet. It appears he's been priced out of Leipzig's reach, but wouldn't be surprised to see them have one final effort today.
Chris James
62 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:50:44
TDD worth a live discussion surely? ;-p
Paul Mackay
63 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:51:10
Based on the above info they have until the end of August to sign him
Brian Williams
64 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:52:10
Chris. I think if he's going he'll go there there towards the end of August. There's no rush for Everton to sell him to Liepzig before 5pm today.

Gives Silva time to assess things.

Derek Knox
65 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:52:12
Aidan, I am with you on that, it all seems a bit unfair to have different window closing times, it's not as if it's a matter of hours, it's three weeks!

As you say, PL Clubs have to register their players after the window closes (25) so it is possible that a Foreign club come in with an attractive offer, which is acceptable by that player, and it goes through, they are at least one player light.

Rob Halligan
66 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:56:20
Derek, I'd laugh me bollox off if Real Madrid or Barcelona make an offer for Salah on 31st August. Won't happen I know.
Steve Ferns
67 Posted 09/08/2018 at 10:58:42
Some context, Leipzig's record transfer is Keita. They "bought" him for 24m Euros. Why the doubt over the transfer? Well they signed him off Slazburg. That's right one Red Bull team to another. So not quite a legit price as it's also a mechanism to move money between the clubs.

The next biggest transfer is 20m euros. Are they really going to stretch to £30m or even 30m euros? sure they have the Keita money but I doubt it.

Lookman will only leave if Silva is going to play Bernard and Richarlison as left wingers. I can't see how we can leave either of these expensive players on the bench, or the equally expensive Sigurdsson, or the equally expensive Walcott. I think they will all play, and so Lookman will be the guy on the bench, and he won't be leaving.

Paul Mackay
68 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:04:02
Anyone know if Mina was back in Barcelona training after he missed training on Tuesday?
Eric Myles
69 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:06:29
Ray #12"Can someone explain why on deadline day players cannot have a medical in their home country, conducted by an approved doctor?"

'Cos if the medical is done at Finch Farm and the player passes he can sign on the dotted line there and then, grab a shirt for the photo op and then get assigned his locker. All in time to get the paperwork through to UEFA before the deadline.

Unless BK's fax machine runs out of paper again!

Derek Knox
70 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:06:54
Rob, there's many a true word spoken in jest!

Klippety Klopp would krappen in die Lederhosen!

Mike Keating
71 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:11:53
Just saw this in The Sportsman;
“Sam Allardyce has revealed that Maguire and his former Hull City team-mate Andrew Robertson - now doing so well at Liverpool - were both offered to the Toffees but the then boss Ronald Koeman didn't fancy the move.”
And we’re still paying the useless fuckwit’s wages.
Adam Luszniak
72 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:19:24
Gomes seems to be an interesting option. As many have said he seems to injured, although the echo don't mention it at all in their low down on the player

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/who-andre-gomes-meet-euro-15008097

Darren Hind
73 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:19:38
Never have so many people taken in so much information and learned so little.

It would appear we've signed nobody and I still cant keep up

Paul Bernard
74 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:21:22
Fully expect Mina and Bernard done today.
If we can get any of Zouma, Gomes, Drinkwater or a back up striker like Welbeck in, then I will say its our best window in years.

I still think we need a powerhouse in midfield, we are often overrun in the midfield which I don't think helps our CB's at all. Also having players like Baines allowing crosses in is making the CB's done far more work than is necessary. Not defending Jags or Keane either, just don't think they get much protection.

Steve Ferns
75 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:21:58
Seen that before Mike. I understand the blunder on Keane over Maguire. But the decision not to sign Robertson in favour of getting in Martina, well there's no understanding that.
Jim Bennings
76 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:23:42
Well still no confirmation of Bernard or Mina or Gomes or any news regarding Zouma
Shaun Laycock
77 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:28:44
Everton officials are in Barcelona trying to finalise a deal for Barcelona defender Yerry Mina, Sky Sports News understands - with the player having a medical in the Spanish city to save time.
Sam Hoare
78 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:29:16
I'd be very happy with Bernard and Mina today. I'd be delighted if Zouma joined them. I'm not convinced by Andre Gomes though he was better at Valencia than Barca. He's fairly slow, though a decent enough passer; reminds me quite alot of Schneiderlin to be honest.

I don't think we need another striker backup. With options we've got in wide areas its very possibly that Richarlison or Walcott could play central role and I think they'd both do it well.

Rob Halligan
79 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:29:48
SSN saying Everton officials in Barcelona to finalise deal for mina, who is currently having a medical there.
Rob Halligan
80 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:30:33
Best me to it, Shaun.
Rob Halligan
81 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:31:26
FFS, beat me to it!!😕😕
Paul Mackay
82 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:31:34
Can he not even be arsed flying to Liverpool to sign for us?
Jim Potter
83 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:33:55
Sky just said Yeri Mina undergoing a medical for us in Barcelona now.
James Marshall
84 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:34:09
If he's got so far as having a medical (in Barcelona) then that's pretty much a done deal innit? Fee agreed, terms agreed, medical, intro video, done.

Actually probably no intro video for this one given the timescale.

James Marshall
85 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:35:01
Man Utd have made a bid for Diego Godin - surely that leaves the way open for Mina and perhaps Zouma to us as well?
Rob Halligan
86 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:35:07
Paul, he will probably fly back in mosh's private jet and have a group unveiling with Bernard, Gomez and Zouma. Here's hoping!!
Jim Potter
87 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:36:07
Perhaps getting the Portuguese lad as well?
Paul Mackay
88 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:36:54
May as well tie up the Gomez deal whilst they are over there..
James Marshall
89 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:37:45
It's encouraging now knowing that Barcelona are basically our feeder club.
Shaun Laycock
90 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:40:02
Expediency, I expect!
Steve Ferns
91 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:45:17
Can we get Dembele on loan, now we are best buddies with Barca?
Rob Halligan
92 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:50:56
Steve, you'd have thought they might have enquired about Messi while they're there?
Erik Dols
93 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:52:58
Well, it certainly is something different. We used to sign injured Man Utd players with their prime behind them, now it seems to be changing to relatively young Barcelona players. In terms of resale value we are certainly improving.
Rob Halligan
94 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:54:59
Last season we had Lennon and McCarthy. This season we could have Tom and Yerry and also Little and Large. 😂😂😂
Derek Knox
96 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:55:58
It won't feel the same the Window shutting at 17.00, let alone before any of the European Clubs!

Remembering the 23.00 closing, SSN at Finch Farm, the Live Forum, with the deals sometimes not proclaimed officially till well into the night!

Aye those were the days.

James Marshall
97 Posted 09/08/2018 at 11:57:48
All that excitement near bedtime was always a bit much for me, Derek. I finish work at 5pm so I'll be happy it's all done & dusted before I get in me car!
Darren Murphy
98 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:04:02
We may as well get Paco Alcácer on loan whilst there too.
Steve Ferns
99 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:04:08
I remember the Fellaini deal. There was rumours all night about it, a few mentions on SSN and then nothing. We were all coming mad on here wanting to know if we got the deal or missed out. I gave up waiting at 2.00am and then I think it was 9.00am when we finally announced it!

I believe that kind of deal is why it's gone back to 5.00pm.

Steve Ferns
100 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:05:14
Should we get Busquets or Rakatic? Maybe our best buddies will let us have both?
Paul Mackay
101 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:05:46
300 minutes left, assume Barnard has just popped for lunch. No panic here boys.
Henrik Lyngsie
102 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:06:21
Breaking News on Deadline Day. After 12 years of silence, Thomas Gravesen now returns to public life. He has agreed a contract with Discovery Network to become pundit on Danish television showing PL.
Hope he will show Everton more respect than all the other ones only knowing the top 6 Clubs.
Derek Knox
103 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:06:26
Darren, not so sure about him, I think he is a 'Spanish sicknote' as they say in Barcelona!
James Marshall
104 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:09:47
Oooooh Tommy Tommy!

I bloody loved Tommy Gravesen, the mental bastard (as Jimmy McFadden called him). Mad as a box of frogs.

Gavin Johnson
105 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:10:12
Mina and Gomes both undergoing medicals. How come the deadlines at 5pm now?? It defo ruins climatic aspect of deadline day
Brian Williams
106 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:11:28
Latest on Lookman. Going nowhere, big plans for him at Everton!
Andy Sommer
107 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:12:07
Ademola Lookman is staying at Everton, ending a summer of interest from German side Red Bull Leipzig where he spent last season on loan. Just on SSN
Aidan Wade
108 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:13:41
Mina and Bernard in + Bolasie out = good day and a solid window

If we also pick up some good loan deals to fill out a quality roster (some of: Zouma/Drinkwater/Gomes) and shift Sandro to Spain before the end of August then that's a fantastic transfer window. On paper - I thought getting Keane and Sandro was great business this time last year.

COYB - Just don't leave the Bernard and Mina deals go down to the wire. I don't want to be refreshing the news every 30 seconds to see if some late fax was received the right side of the deadline.

Sean Patton
109 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:13:59
Yeah I can't believe the deadline is now 5 we might need those extra 6 hours but on the plus side Sky will be furious.
Jay Harris
110 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:14:15
Mina and Gomes both passed Medicals.

Final details between the clubs being ironed out now.

No mention of Zouma anywhere. Pity

Brian Williams
111 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:16:38
Zouma on loan with a buy option would be the icing on an already fucking great cake!!
Derek Knox
112 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:19:38
Sky Sports don't half make me laugh, they have Denis Wise and Craig Shakespeare in the studio to give Manager's perspective on Transfers and Deadline Day.

How successful and experienced are they?

Now had it been about Failure and what it's like to be sacked, I could have understood it better.

Phil Martin
113 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:20:26
Even with Mina, Digz, Bernie and Richy, we still really need 3 out of Loftus-Cheek, Batsyuahi, Dembele (Celtic), DrinkWater, Gomez, and also Zouma to be competing with top 6.
Michael Lynch
114 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:20:42
Nit-picking I know, but why are we doing the bulk of our business on deadline day, with no chance of any of our new players being ready for the opening game of the season? Doubt if most of them will even be ready for our first home game.

James Marshall
115 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:21:59
Besic to Leeds - I had no idea Bielsa was Leeds manager. I definitely missed a meeting there.

Richarlison
Digne
Bernard
Mina
Gomes

That's pretty good going really isn't it.

Andrew Ellams
116 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:23:13
If Gomes is injured for anywhere between 1 and 3 months, how has he passed a medical?
Jim Bennings
117 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:23:25
Michael 114

It’s not really nit picking it’s a fair call.

I just hope we do get them in now that we have left it late and there are no more late twists or hitches.

I’m still shitting one thinking of a partnership of Keane and Jagielka away to Wolves at a bouncing Molineux.

James Marshall
118 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:23:56
Michael@114

It's not our choice, it's the way the transfer market works these days - clubs and agents hang it out for inflated fees till the last day, and the merry-go-round starts to spin on the last day. One transfer leads to another.

It's a total myth that Everton are the only club that wait till the last day - you just don't notice how long and drawn out other clubs transfers are, in exactly the same way ours are purely because you don't follow them in the same way.

Michael Lynch
119 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:25:40
Jim, exactly. Cos if we don't get Mina + one other over the line, Jags and Keane will be our CD partnership for the rest of the season.

Now that would be a terrifying thought.

James Marshall
120 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:26:52
We haven't left it late. I don't understand this perceived notion that somehow Everton have left anything late. We don't control the situation.
Steve Ferns
121 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:27:06
Michael we are signing the best players we can get, and the only way to do this was to hold our nerve and wait for the players to cross the big clubs off their preferred list and come down to us. Sure, we think we're a massive club, but Yerry Mina thinks we're a big step down from Barca, and he clearly wanted Man Utd.
Paul Mackay
122 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:27:41
117 Jim anyone we sign today will not be in the squad for Sat so our fears for Jags and Keane being the pairing for Wolves is a certain I’d say. Let’s hope we can score 4 and win 4~3
Michael Lynch
123 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:29:48
Yeah, fair enough James & Steve. We're picking up players who have failed at big clubs and are hoping to get the chance at another big club, so they're hanging on for the best offer. The likes of the Shite are picking up players on an upward trajectory. But nevertheless... surely there are a few up and coming players, here or abroad, that we would have been scouting? We're talking about how we missed out on Maguire and Robertson last season, who are we missing out on this season?
James Marshall
124 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:33:18
Michael - I think we're going to have had a very positive transfer window.

Remember where we sit in the pantheon of modern football clubs - Everton are not a 'big club', whatever than means but in terms of the modern era we're a mid table side with no recent history of winning anything at all. The modern footballer has never seen us win a title.

With that in mind we're a low-end draw for players so comparing us to the RS is not a great comparison. Like it or not they win things, we don't. We're rarely in Europe, play in a shitty old stadium (much as we love her) and we're not a fashionable club, so we fish in different waters for so many reasons.

Steve Ferns
125 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:35:23
Michael, once we get through this season and show everyone we are closing in on (or hopefully have broken into) the top 6, it might be a completely different story.

Also, Brands can shift to trying to find the next Messi, and concentrate on that. This window is about giving Silva a squad he can work with.

Paul Mackay
126 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:36:25
Agreed, in fact Silva and Brands are doing really well to attract these players who are above our current level.
Brian Williams
127 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:37:17
I have to say, and have a go at those who think we're amateurish in everything we do, that Brands (in particular) and Silva have done some excellent business, not just in who's in and who will be coming in but in getting rid of those gone already, and those who'll probably be going today.

I have to say to M&M. "We salute you." Well I fucking do anyway.

Oh, and don't be surprised if there IS a surprise before that fucking UPVC eyesore SLAMS SHUT!!!

Michael Lynch
128 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:37:32
James I agree. But it's interesting even to look at the last couple of windows compared to this. We were signing players who their own clubs wanted to keep mostly - Klaasen, Lookman, Pickford, Sandro, Siggy, Tosun, Keane etc.

This time around it's almost entirely players that big clubs are trying to offload as surplus to requirements. Not saying whether one approach is better than the other, just pointing it out

Paul Mackay
129 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:41:09
Michael the players we are buying in this window are better than the players you mentioned in your post, so we can call them surplus but this window is looking significantly better than the summer.
Jay Harris
130 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:41:11
Good point Steve but I still don't think weve done enough defensively for the way Silva likes to play.

I think the window looks moderately successful assuming Mina and Gomes are landed but the addition of Zouma and Drinkwater would have plugged the weaknesses we still have.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

131 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:42:37
Everton is always a tease on TDD.

Don't we have a history of waiting until the window slams shut before announcing our final day signings?

We seem to be following the same pattern today.

I'll also be interested in the prepared script the new arrivals blurt for the cameras.

Anyone else noticed, unlike in all previous seasons, neither Richarlison nor Digne made any reference whatsoever to BK and his part in the deal?

A small point. But possibly, just possibly, a significant one and a pointer as to how and by who deals are now being handled.

Chris James
132 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:46:26
I think its a little naive to say that we're leaving it late. We've been chasing Mina for well over a month with bids going in - the people in power, especially for more sought after stars, are the players and their agents.
They are in no hurry to launch into a deal when there could be higher profile clubs or more cash coming.
It's certainly not just us, look at Utd desperately shopping around for defenders last minute.

I'd also say that the World Cup and the new earlier deadline has had a concertina effect this year meaning a lot less time to get business done.

Oh and of course we did lots of early business last year...that didn't go super well did it?

Amit Vithlani
133 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:47:14
What is going on? I just cannot believe this. Has no-one, and I mean no-one, sighted Riquelme yet?

(some day I hope to find the old TDD threads when we were skint)

Eric Paul
134 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:48:05
Barkley going on loan to vitesse arnham apparently
Paul Mackay
135 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:51:40
He’ll be playing for Notts County before we know it.
Michael Lynch
136 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:52:27
If I'm honest, standing back, I'd say only Richarlison is a top quality piece of business, even at the price. The rest of our targets are interesting, but risky. Digne couldn't get into the Barca team let alone the France team, Mina couldn't get a game at Barca and we're signing him on the basis of a few WC games for Columbia, Bernard has fallen off the radar since the disastrous 2014 world cup, Zouma if we get him has just been relegated on loan to Stoke, Gomes has been a total flop at Barca - the fans are more desperate to see the back of him than we were of Klaasen - Drinkwater couldn't get a game at Chelsea and the jury is out on whether he only did well at Leicester cos he had Kante alongside him.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but I remember getting very excited about last season's signings and, like I say, they probably had more going for them on paper...

James Marshall
137 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:52:43
Besic to Boro on loan
Rob Halligan
138 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:53:15
I wish Michael or Lyndon would get out of their pits and open up the live forum. I'm sick of pressing the refresh button.
James Marshall
139 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:56:17
Rob, it's here

https://www.ToffeeWeb.com/comment/live/

Erik Dols
140 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:56:23
Michael #136 I had the same thoughts. Probably some will turn out good and some will be a miss. Personally I feel Bernard will be a big hit and Mina might disappoint. Not based on anything, just gut feeling.
Michael Burke
141 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:57:00
Did anyone hear TalkSport at about 9.55 this morning. Sam Allardyce was on the show mentioning how trustworthy agents are. I’ll leave it at that .
Rob Halligan
142 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:58:19
Cheers James. Clearly nobody knows about it. Only three posts so far. Time to move over.
Eric Paul
143 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:01:04
Michael
Most of the 80s side were interesting but risky signings,that’s what good management is about
Steve Ferns
144 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:02:56
Michael, maybe Bernard fell off your radar, but did you not see how great he was for Shaktar as they got to the knockout stages of the Champions League? He scored a cracker:

Bernard in Champions League against Man City.

more action from the city game, love how he gets stuck in and you can see why i think he can play centrally.

Paul Mackay
145 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:05:40
136 Michael,

Digne is a top player (25 odd caps for the world champions) as is Mina, Richarlison is already looking the business and Silva knows him well. We are also about to buy a player who has been capped by Brazil 14 times..

Compare this to the likes of Klaassen, Lookman and Sandro last summer, they hadn’t done anything of note prior to them signing for us (Dutch league is poor) and have done nothing since.

The standard of player we are buying has increased no doubt about it and as many people on here have said who in that next level up is going to Everton over a top 4 team anyway?

We all thought it would take a few windows to fix our weaknesses but this window has been a cracking start.

All kudos to Siva and Brands.

Michael Lynch
146 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:12:28
Hope you guys are right. I'm just trying to manage my own expectations really. In the case of Digne and Bernard, they no longer figure in their countries squads. Bernard hasn't played for Brazil for four years.

Anyway. I'll go back to getting excited.

Steve Ferns
147 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:14:41
Michael, how many scouts do you think Brazil send to the Ukraine? Bernard has a load of caps but paid the price for playing in the 7-1 thrashing. The fact of the matter is, at 21 he was good enough to play for Brazil in a world cup semi final. I'd also point out that Brazil have a lot of options in his position, so they can be forgiven for not keeping an eye on him.
Gavin Johnson
148 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:18:20
Michael #134

You're a hard man to please! If you'd have been at the last supper I bet you'd have asked for ketchup.

I think we've had a very productive window and strengthened in the right areas with quality. Many of us were excited last summer but some of us were already asking questions about how it was going to work, before a ball was even kicked with the unbalanced transfer approach.

Brands brief was to lose the deadwood and improve the squad. He's definitely done that. Let's break it down and take a look.

Defence outgoings - Williams, Funes Mori, Garbutt, Robinson.

Defence incomings - Mina, Digne

Midfield and attacking outgoings - Klassen, Rooney, Connelly, Mirallas, Vlasic, Bolasie, Besic.

Midfield and attacking incomings - Gomes, Bernard, Richarlison.

That's 11 outgoings and there's only Robinson who we need back. The 5 new signings can all play a significant roles next season. Gomes is an immediate upgrade on Schneiderlin. Mina a better CB than what we have. Richarlison has looked our best player in pre season, and Digne has better stats that Baines in all areas of the game apart from key passes. He wouldn't have got over 20 caps for France and played for Barca, Roma and PSG if he wasn't decent. I only saw him on Sat against Valencia but he looked up for it and was solid. I've been very impressed with Digne from what he's said and looks like he'll find it easy to integrate into the squad.

Paul Mackay
149 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:20:42
If your not playing regularly for your club team your going to drop out of your international squad. It’s part of the pull of getting them to come to a club like Everton so they can get back into the team again.
Would the likes of Jagielka had as many caps for England had he not been playing every single week for Evrerton?
Michael Lynch
150 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:22:52
Gavin.

I am a hard man to please indeed. But My Nan would be a better CB that what we have, to be fair. And, as Steve Ferns has pointed out, Gomes doesn't play DM usually, so isn't a replacement for Schneids unless Silva is planning to convert him. Richarlison is brilliant, I';m delighted with him. Digne I have no idea about, but he needs to be as good as Baines was in his prime, which was pretty bloody good. Probably the best left back I've seen at Everton.

Charlie Dixon
151 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:33:17
Your nan left footed?
Danny Broderick
152 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:37:45
Michael (150),

I’d settle for Gueye playing in Schneiderlin’s holding position, with Gomes (or any other midfielder) playing as a box to box midfielder. This would surely offer more than when we have Gueye and Schneiderlin in the same midfield...

Derek Knox
153 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:38:00
Michael, can your Nan get to Finch Farm as soon as possible, even if she only signs a two game contract, should be enough time to integrate and acclimatise our new signings.

Even though Wolves have had a massive influx of players, which can be disruptive, and they are new to the Prem, I still don't relish the prospect of (probably) Keane and Jags being our mainstay of defence against them.

Gavin Johnson
154 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:40:29
Michael

Gomes isn't a tackle machine like Schneiderlin but he has more vision and can pick a through ball pass. He's also more capable of getting us up the pitch. For me, he is a much better partner for Gana in midfield. He's also 6ft 1" so isn't someone who is going to be bossed around. I'm looking forward to seeing him play in a midfield 3 with Sigurdsson and Gana

Michael Lynch
155 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:40:44
Danny, yes Gomes does look a good box to box option, but if Gueye is DM and Gomes plays, then it means a straight choice between Siggy and Bernard as no 10, or between Charlie and Bernard for left wing?
Michael Lynch
156 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:41:41
Gavin
As above, if it's Siggy/Gomes/Gueye in the midfield 3, where does that leave Bernard?
Gavin Johnson
157 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:47:30
Michael

It's a squad game. Benard can be played in a midfield 3 with Sigurdsson and Gana with Sig playing more as a traditional No.8. Or we can Bernard in Sigurdsson's No.10 position. Or we can have him out wide on the left with Richarlison playing on the right wing or upfront. There's lots of combinations that are very exciting. It's not like last summer buying 3 slow No.10's and trying to shoehorn them into a system that fits. Bernard is equally adept playing centrally or out wide.

Bill Watson
158 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:48:14
According to SSN, Besic is about to sign for 'Boro on a permanent deal @£6m

The cull continues!

Paul Smith
159 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:49:26
Besic going is great news.
David Pearl
160 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:50:05
Yes pleased for Besic, injuries blighted his career here but he’s a good player. We are making all the right moves, finally impressed with our management team, they are doing a great job
Steve Ferns
161 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:52:39
I missed this at the time, but after Walcott was overlooked for the World Cup Squad there was a great article on him in the Independent. The best paragraph was this and is about all young players, pertinent to us with our World Cup 5:

"It’s a funny thing about young footballers. We laud them to the skies on their emergence. We all want to say we saw them first. We plead for them to be given time, even whilst trying to envisage the champion into which they will develop. And yet when, remarkably, they fail to live up to the hype, somehow it’s always the player’s fault rather than the hype. As with so many other hotly-tipped prodigies, it’s tempting to think about Walcott in terms of failure, inadequacy, loss. Perhaps, instead, a player who first took shape as a brilliant idea remains just that: a sunlit extrapolation, a figment, a blurry vision of pure untrammelled speed that really only existed in our heads."

(I was wondering if there was any rumours that Walcott might be off).

Dale Rose
162 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:52:58
Lets hope we are saying that at ten past five tonight David. Its all gone quiet.
Steve Ferns
163 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:55:28
Dale, if we were making a big noise over Bernard or Mina then that would tell you that we're not busy. We're too busy to announce as we are busy concluding deals.

Plus they do them fancy vids on twitter these days. Let's worry in a couple of hours time, not just yet.

Danny Broderick
164 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:57:27
Michael (155),

I haven’t seen too much of Bernard, but I don’t think he has played for a while and needs to get up to speed. I have a feeling he is more of an attacking wide player than a centre mid, but maybe I am thinking that because he is small - I could be wrong, and he could be another Modric for all I know, but I thought his main quality was dribbling. In any case, i’d be happy with Gueye, Gomes and Sigurdsson in centre mid. Bernard can play his way in if he is good enough!

Steve Ferns
165 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:59:08
Craig Shakespeare has a good tan, he's clearly been enjoying himself (at our expense). Big Sam is on at 4.00pm (on SSN). I wonder if he'll continue to make snide comments about us and our signings?
Dale Rose
166 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:00:47
Steve I will hang on your every word, and pray that's the case, its a bit like the old fifties films, where they say "Its the drums, I just cant stand the drums, just let them attack".
Steve Ferns
167 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:01:54
Lol Dale.

We got £6m for Besic, well done Brands.

Gavin Johnson
168 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:05:05
I think Boro are getting a bargain in Besic for £6m. I'm glad we've offloaded him but I think we could have squeezed another couple of million out of them.
Fran Mitchell
169 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:08:43
There are no guaranteed starters in the team now (should the transfers go through). This is something I have never seen before. Many players can play in different positions, and in different roles which gives great flexibility of how to set the team up dependiing on the opposition. Best 11 is a thing of the past. Brands and silva really have done an amazing job at revamping what was a very mediocre squad.

If Walcott doesn't perform, there is Lookman, Richarilson who can play RWF.
If Tosun doesn't perform, the is Calvert-Lewin, Richarilson, Walcott, Lookman who can play CF. Niasse off the bench.
If Richarilson doesn't perform, there is Bernard, Lookman who can play LWF.
If Sigurdsson doesn't perform, there is Gomes, Bernard, Davies who can play CAM.
If Gomes doesn't perform there is Bernard, Davies, Sigurdsson who can play B-to-B
If Schneiderlin doesn't perform, there is Gueye, Baningime, Davies who can play CDM
If Digne doesn't perform there is Baines for LB.
If Mina doesn't perform there is Keane, Jags, Holgate.
If Zouma doesn't perform, there is Keane, Jags, Holgate.
If Coleman doesn't perform there is Kenny for RB.

Steve Ferns
170 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:10:52
Dowell and Connolly signed new 3 year deals. Everton just announced that.

Connolly has signed for Wigan on loan for the season too.

Michael Stevenson
171 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:15:24
This is a fucking long medical
Sam Hoare
172 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:16:30
Wonder if Dowell will be going out on loan? Would seem there won't be a huge amount of chances for him with these new signings.
Gavin Johnson
173 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:19:44
I think I'd allow Dowell to go out on loan, Sam. Given Bernard will be ahead of him and there's the possibility that Lookman might be played more centrally.

He hasn't done anything in preseason either. He still drifts out of the game and isn't noticed unless he delivers a moment of magic.

Derek Knox
174 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:29:03
Gavin Johnson, how very accurate, regarding Dowell, I am quite a fan of his, but have noticed, as did Forest fans did on loan last season, he has a tendancy to 'disappear' in games.

If he loses possession, he seldom goes looking for the ball, to get it back, hopefully Silva will be able to coach a different approach.

Sam Hoare
175 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:31:14
Gavin, I agree. Needs to work on being more involved in all aspects of the game, which I think he has improved at.

Still a talented youngster and think he'd benefit more from a full season in the championship to sitting on our bench, or not even.

Jim Potter
176 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:31:56
Time is dragging as nowt is happening - but also going very quickly as I look at the 17.00 finale. Bizarre!
Steve Ferns
177 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:36:30
Dendonker would have been an interesting signing. Not seen lots of him, and what I have seen of him has been mixed. He's big and powerful and could be the DM we need.
Jack Convery
178 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:36:58
£6m for Besic is a steal. I would have kept him in case MS is still crap this season. I believe Besic is better than Davies at present.

This waiting around is like waiting for a date who isn't on time - just how long do you wait before you p off.

Shane Corcoran
179 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:38:03
So is there any real talk of Gomes. Maybe he's just helping the other lad with his luggage.
Steve Ferns
180 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:39:11
Jack, we'll still be waiting at 18.00 if there's no announcement hoping we lodged those deal sheets in time and the clubs twitter feed is just on the blink.
Fran Mitchell
181 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:39:21
Dowell needs to stay. He'll learn more training day in day out with Silva and the first team and battling for a first team place than playing for a championship side.

Maybe give him a few months with Bielsa at leeds from Feb-May.

Fran Mitchell
182 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:42:02
If we do get Gomes and Mina, does that make us a club for Barcalona cast offs. How do we feel about that?
Aidan Baker
183 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:42:26
Dowell is a cultured player, personally I would like to see him exposed to the skills of Richarlison and Bernard in the Everton first team squad, it should make him a better player.

Connolly needs game time and define his best position. Ipswich did him good and hopefully Wigan will do the same.

Though M & M are purchasing players in their prime or very close to it, I like most Evertonians would like to see our talented youth integrated into the mix. There are young players on Everton's books that many clubs would bite your hand off to have (like Lookman). If you are World champion at your age group then your should be on course to being the best, playing with the best and for the best - DCL, Dowell, Davies, Kenny, Connolly and the aforementioned Lookman are in that bracket.

It was stated before that Everton had bought players from Barca who weren't starters, yet these players were purchased by the Catalan club for their potential to get in the fist XI. Potential is the key word.. you buy potential - technical, physical and mentally strong footballers.

It is the task of the Manager/coach to improve these purchases and our youth players to become something together. I personally see a vision in the M & M plan, but they need a bit of time, motivation, tuition and some luck to become good players molded into a good team. Over to you Mr Silva..

Scott Mongomery
184 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:44:41
Delighted that Besic has been moved on and £6 million is a good price. I never saw the point of him...temperamental headless chicken. Ive been very impressed with the transfer window so far, except for the delay in getting the new CB/s in. The club have managed to offload a lot of the excess weight and as Fran mentioned earlier we now have proper competition for places and cover for injuries/illnesses. I still think we have one surprise on the way in the next 2 hours. Fingers crossed.
Steve Ferns
185 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:53:25
Bolasie is off! Burnley or Boro?
Michael Lynch
186 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:55:05
My money's on Bernard and Mina signing and nobody else. Maybe a last minute loan of some journeyman to shore up the defence if Jags's zimmer frame snaps or Keane gets lost on Walton Vale trying to execute a turn on the halfway line.
Darren Hind
187 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:58:09
How much did we pay for Besic ?
Steve Ferns
188 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:58:21
Bernard and Mina are coming for sure. Barca are said to be pushing Gomes on us, on loan. Let's see if Silva actually wants him.
Gavin Johnson
189 Posted 09/08/2018 at 14:59:34
Besic cost £4m Darren.
Scott Mongomery
190 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:00:38
Think it was for £4 million Darren, but I could be wrong
John Pierce
191 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:00:48
Dowell may have talent. But he has maybe one season now to flourish before going the way of many a fabled Everton youth product; Ebrell, Branch, Jeffers, Cadamateri etc.

The contract extension is a safeguard, and should see us get a fee if he doesn’t make it this season.

I know of very few players were multiple year loans has produced a player worth keeping.

Connelly, Robinson and Dowell all in this boat.

If there is a hope for Dowell he is now surrounded by many players in his position of different styles. Can he pick up how Bernard plays despite lacking physical size? Can he understand how hard Richarlison works to get the ball back?

A another loan would tell me his time is up.

Darren Hind
192 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:01:54
Barca Pushing Gomes on us Steve. Fucking hope so. Who's reporting that ?
Derek Knox
193 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:02:57
Darren, if memory serves it was @£4m and that was just after the last World Cup.

I also remember Martinez being phenomenally impressed that he had virtually marked Messi out of the game.

Steve Ferns
194 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:03:58
This is wrong: [Alan Myers on twitter. The ex Everton spokesman, and the man Sky have stood outside Goodison.]

Edit: It was Andy Hunter of the Guardian.

Darren Hind
195 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:04:00
Yes Scot. I checked on TW transfers - the guys are usually on the money
Darren Hind
196 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:04:55
Credible Steve ?
Steve Ferns
197 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:05:57
Wait, it was Andy Hunter of the Guardian, not Myers. Sorry reading too many twitters at the moment!
Steve Ferns
198 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:09:58
Good to see our old mate Eugene Ruane active on twitter. Seems he's more into politics these days though. Hopefully, the blues can be more exciting and get him back on here.
Karl Meighan
199 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:11:31
Courtois has gone awol been on strike more or less in that time the two players were linked with have been having medicals/sorting a work permit, has me worried but then again until I see the shirt on them I believe nothing.
Steve Ferns
200 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:12:48
Myers is on Sky Sports News no saying it's all good outside Finch Farm, he's a big smile on face. Mina and Bernard are more or less certain. Gomes is the one he's unsure of.
Rob Halligan
201 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:19:23
Just had a quick look at the arrivals into Liverpool JLA. An easy jet from Barcelona arrived about 10 minutes ago, hopefully with mina on it. 10 minutes from there to finch farm and Mina and Bernard announced at the same time. 👍👍👍
Steuart Hayes
202 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:21:28
Rob 201 medicals being done in Barca I think
Steuart Hayes
203 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:22:54
Steve ferns thanks for the updates keep them coming if possible. Glad you are confident over the 2 what's your view on if we will get Gomes
Rob Halligan
204 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:28:17
Steuart, yes I know. That was this morning hopefully.

By the way I jest about the easy jet thing, but you never know.

Tim Mather
205 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:32:03
Cannot see any updates regarding Zouma, would be nice to get that done as well but doesn't seem likely now
Steuart Hayes
206 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:34:59
Fair play Rob, just hope we get Mina and Bernard at least I loved the clip Steve put up on another page I think his touch for one bit was awesome and what we need, love Gomes and Zouma would be the best window ever even than lukaku one I think.
Alex Fox
207 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:40:47
From the Guardian:

Everton have agreed a loan deal with Chelsea to sign Kurt Zouma, but face a race against the clock to ensure all the formalities are in order, according to L’Équipe.

Steve Ferns
208 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:41:49
It's all over twitter that L'Equipe (main French sports paper) has announced we have signed Zouma on loan, and just on SSN as I type this.
Steuart Hayes
209 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:43:45
Great news there a few more needed though
Brian Murray
210 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:44:17
If we get Zouma as well, time for a street party
John Keating
211 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:45:26
Always strange that a player can be linked in the last couple of hours of the transfer window and all the medicals and paperwork can be done and lodged prior to the closing time.

A player linked a few days before the window closing seems to have difficulty getting things done. Wierd

Sam Hoare
212 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:47:12
In many ways i'd be more excited about Zouma than Mina as the former is used to the Prem and has done pretty well for the most part.

Anyone seen much of Gomes? He seems unspectacular to me. Decent feet and a decent passer but not quick or imposing enough for my liking.

Derek Turner
213 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:50:58
Mina pictured coming out of Barca Hospital giving a thumbs up.
Aidan Baker
214 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:51:42
Given that Silva will give a press conference (pre -Wolves) at 5.30 pm, I get the feeling that announcements will be made at the same time.
Michael Morgan
215 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:54:38
Zouma, Mina and Bernard would end the window nicely for us. Not to keen on getting Gomes yet as with his injury and getting back to match fitness, you'd likely see him until near Christmas time. I'd consider him once fully fit in January though.
Grant Rorrison
216 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:56:06
The Telegraph has us signing Rojo for 22m ?!
Shane Corcoran
217 Posted 09/08/2018 at 15:58:05
Maybe we're going back to Walter Smith and trying to play as many defenders as possible.

I'd say Keane's morale is taking a battering.

Grant Rorrison
218 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:00:17
Maybe the rumour about Jagielka going to United is true ?!
Paul Ellam
219 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:02:40
Would have liked to get Marega in but we've too many on the go already for that to happen I think.


Aidan Baker
220 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:03:25
Sky confirm Bernard
Steve Ferns
221 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:03:47
Sam Gomes was brilliant for Benfica. I didn't watch him for Valencia. I saw him for Portugal and he was usually very good there. I assure you he's a player. But he's more offensive than defensive.
Gary Hughes
222 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:05:36
Seems the delay for Bernard was sorting a work permit. Personal terms agreed.
Ian Bennett
223 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:07:37
Get the paper in the fax machine for FFS.
Steve Ferns
224 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:07:57
Gary Moshiri just sent me a text. He said he wanted to save the announcements for when Jim White was on Sky Sports News, especially when he heard old Gravy Chops was on.
Gary Hughes
225 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:11:38
Steve, Sky and Talk shite should really get better pundits in. Gravy chops this morning and then someone on Sky earlier didn’t even know we had signed a new left back for £20 million. Forever trotting out the same rubbish. Think Moshiri has changed his number and not given it too Jim White.
Scott Hall
226 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:12:14
Rojo, Zouma, Mina and Digne? An entire new back 4?

Aaaargh! Come on you blues!

Paul Tran
227 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:12:30
Looking like a good transfer window. The best move of the summer was getting Brands to the club.
Paul Ellam
228 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:13:24
We've got about 100 deals going on - work faster guys!!!!
Time is running out.
Shane Corcoran
229 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:13:25
I was just telling the Mrs. last night about Anichebe being brought on to Sky. They simply must pull the names out of a hat.
She didn't seem to care about Victor at all to my surprise.
Shane Corcoran
230 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:14:18
Who's gravy chops?
Les Green
231 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:17:09
Bernard official now, and SSN reporting the work permit is approved too
Gary Hughes
232 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:18:44
Shane it’s our old mate Allardyce.
Andrew Ellams
233 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:18:45
How reliable are the Rojo rumours? I'm not convinced we'll sign 3 centre backs.
Steve Ferns
234 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:19:00
Shane, Sam Allardyce.

He's now making us sound like paupers. God he hates us. What a horrible guy.

Bolasie is staying …

Shane Corcoran
235 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:25:57
I see the breaking news is that Sam's chair malfunctioned. The craic those lads have

Also funny that at 16:24, Zouma is "interesting Everton".

James Marshall
236 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:32:42
Reports in Spain say the Gomes loan is also done
Shane Corcoran
237 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:35:54
And not a sniff on SS about Gomes still.
Gary Hughes
238 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:36:46
Fat Sam this morning on talk shite was spouting that he had spoken to Walsh and apparently we were in pole position to sign both Robertson and Maguire from Hull last year but Koeman pulled the plug on both deals.
James Marshall
239 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:38:30
SSN is an entertainment channel as much as it is news - remember they always hold things back in an attempt to make as big an impact as possible.
Shane Corcoran
240 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:46:59
Bernard done.
James Marshall
241 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:47:53
Shane Corcoran
242 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:48:26
Sam reckons we haven't gotten rid of that many players. He's done his homework hasn't he?
James Marshall
243 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:49:19
Bernard has a right funny old gait in the Twitter video. He runs like a little chicken.
Danny Baily
244 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:50:13
At my wits end. Have we signed a centre back yet??
Gary Hughes
245 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:52:43
James 243 A great little chicken though.
Ian Burns
246 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:54:49
Bernard has come out with a nice statement and his respect for Silva
Ian Burns
247 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:55:51
Mina confirmed by Barca
Ian Burns
248 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:56:35
Danny - 244 - you can relax now
Danny Baily
249 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:58:18
Thank f**k for that!
James Marshall
250 Posted 09/08/2018 at 16:58:29
Barcelona confirm that Everton have signed Colombian centre-half Yerry Mina for 30m euros.
Gary Hughes
251 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:01:35
Any news on Gomes?? That really would be a statement of intent.
Aidan Baker
252 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:04:57
Gomes confirmed by Barcelona
James Fletcher
253 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:04:59
Got him in on loan
Shane Corcoran
254 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:05:15
SS don't mention the loan.
Tim Mather
255 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:05:28
Gomes and Zouma would both be loans so we have until 31st August to sort those .although tomorrow would be better!!

Marcus Leigh
256 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:05:49
Bloody hell - what an afternoon!
Gary Hughes
257 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:06:35
Get in there Gomes.
Terry McLavey
258 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:06:52
Let's hope with this crew we can win a fuckin' derby! :)
Ian Burns
259 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:06:58
Barca has also announced a deal for Gomez has been agreed
James Fletcher
260 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:07:31
They're calling it a transfer on the site but on Sky Sports News the guy at Finch Farm said it was a loan - no idea what the details are though
Tim Mather
261 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:08:03
On Barcelona website:
FC Barcelona and Everton FC have reached an agreement over the loan of the player André Gomes for the 2018/19 season

The English club will pay FC Barcelona 2.25 million euros for the season long loan and will also pay the player’s wages.

James Ebden
262 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:09:01
no we don't Tim
James Fletcher
263 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:09:12
Any option to buy?
Danny Baily
264 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:10:21
Left it late but we've got to be happy with that window in hindsight.
Shane Corcoran
265 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:11:03
Nervous excitement. Too much at once? Where do they all fit in?
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
266 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:11:39
Well, that's the Arteta money well and truly spent
Daniel A Johnson
267 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:11:54
Marcel vs Steve Walsh is a no contest obviously. Identify and replace easy this transfer lark
Frank Crewe
268 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:12:24
I never thought I would see the day when three Barcelona players would be in Everton's squad. All this and Bernard and Richarlison as well. What a window this has been. Has to be one of our best, if not the best ever.
John G Davies
269 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:12:53
Brands and Silva have transformed the outlook of our club in a very short period of time.

This club, while needing another two transfer windows, is going places.

Young pacy footballers are what we have needed for a long time.
Ian Bennett
270 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:12:56
Tim, loans only apply to championship I think. So it's now or never on Zouma.
David Milner
271 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:13:21
Barcelona's official website here in Spain confirms Yerry Mina for 30.25 million Euros plus 1.5 million Euros in Variables & Andres Gomes on a year loan with us paying his wages & 2.25 million Euros loan fee.
Daniel A Johnson
272 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:14:07
Just a shame Silva doesn’t know his starting 11 now
Shane Corcoran
273 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:14:33
Daniel, Walsh bought plenty. Too early to judge Brands yet.
James Ebden
274 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:14:37
Frank - we won't know that until the end of the season and the players have/haven't delivered.

everyone thought we did well last summer, and look how that turned out.

Derek Turner
275 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:16:18
That was some window. Now I can turn to drink. Press conference should be good.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
276 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:17:00
If it wasn't for Rodrigo spoiling a great statement. (4 sub appearances for a grand total of 36 minutes on the pitch)

Honestly, you wait 140 for one Brasilian and all of sudden two come along at the same time.


OK - forget Muller, he never signed but I cannot think of any others. You are going to prove me wrong aren't you. I know.

James Fletcher
277 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:17:47
There's still more to come!

Besic hasn't gone and there's maybe another signing

Jim Knightley
278 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:19:00
Who is the mysterious one more? Would love it to be Zouma.

Great day.

Chris Gould
279 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:19:22
One more surprise!!

Zouma surely?

Ian Bennett
280 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:19:33
I am pleased on Mina, but the but back clause is an irratant.
Chad Schofield
281 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:20:14
Wow, wow, wow!
Mike Galley
282 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:20:54
Don't think it'll be Messi. I know Barcelona are now our feeder club, but I think we're well stocked in that position. But, you never know!!!
Mike Allison
283 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:22:29
I’m just waiting to hear that the paperwork wasn’t done on time or something.
Tim Mather
284 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:22:37
Apologies if I have the loan info wrong, but this is what is on Sky Sports:

The deadline for English clubs to make permanent transfers has now arrived!

Remember, EFL clubs have until August 31 to make loan signings, and players can still leave England foreign clubs before their deadlines arrive.

Aidan Baker
285 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:28:22
Deal sheet gone in for Zouma
Chris Watts
286 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:28:33
No striker. And loads of players to offload now but plenty of time over the next few weeks to get rid of Bolasie etc. Cracking window and if we get another centre back amazing
Steve Ferns
287 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:29:57
EFL is the championship and below.

Looks like the mystery signing is Zouma

Grant Rorrison
288 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:34:15
What...A...Window !!
Shane Corcoran
289 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:36:08
Besic staying put
John Pierce
290 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:37:19
It all looks very choreographed and planned, professional even!

They acted on the thoughts and desires of most Evertonians.

Bernard is the crown jewel, a play maker from the wing, Arteta before the ACL and is in line with the fashion. Neymar, Messi, Hazard, Ozil etc. all like to make it happen from the wing then in field.

Gomes, it’s a punt, a hopeful one too, injury record is up there with professional sick notes. The upside is high if he stays fit.

Mina, well he’s fucked us around for most of the window so he’s gonna have to prove his worth.

A huge pick-me-up, from the pre-season we’ve had.

Sam Hoare
291 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:38:18
Wow. What a day! Zouma on the way too.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
292 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:39:18
Last year when we sold Lukaku the comment was where were the goals going to come from?

Answer was with Siggy, Rooney and Klaassen then they would burst from midfield and score 10 each and so make up for the loss of Lukaku.

With Tosun, Walcott and Richarlison up front then there is a chance of them scoring 30 goals between them, but I just feel that what we have now behind them are more likely to score goals than the midfield from last year. And with just 3 goals from defenders in the league, I think the defence will weigh in with more this year.

Ian Bennett
293 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:52:22
Still time to move on Martina, Vlasic, Besic and Bolasie to Turkey etc.
Gavin Johnson
294 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:53:28
Bolasie not gone anywhere??
Julian Exshaw
295 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:30:24
We have all been (rightly) critical of all things Everton this last year but this transfer window has shown we still have ambition. Great work by all involved!!
James Marshall
296 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:06:52
Both Mina and Gomes signed here:

Link

Derek Knox
297 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:08:36
I assume that the Zouma deal fell through, as there has been no more mention of it at all.

Can anyone confirm this please ?

Mark Tanton
298 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:08:48
I am really excited about Mina - athleticism, aggression and strength is what we've been missing all over the pitch. Don't know much about Gomes, but he clearly has pedigree.
James Marshall
299 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:10:35
Still waiting on the Zouma deal, Derek. Mina & Gomes announced together I guess since they both came together from Barcelona. Zouma hasn't travelled to Merseyside as his medical has been done in London so we're still waiting to hear if it's gone through.
Joe O'Brien
300 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:11:23
Derek looks like it's still going through... they had till 7 to get it done. It might have been done already but not yet confirmed.
Steve Ferns
301 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:11:27
DK, onky the premier league can confirm the deal. I assume we got the paperwork in on time, as we would have heard otherwise.

So, the premier league doesn’t have much staff for this. They go through each deal one by one, in the order they came in. This is fellaini territory and that took 7 hours to confirm but assume there was some sleeping in that period.

Patience my friend. It’ll be fine.

Derek Knox
302 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:12:59
Cheers James, still got SSN on and they have covered all other teams Fulham, Palace, West Ham, etc but no mention of us with Zouma deal.
Mark Tanton
303 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:14:22
Zouma isn't the only one keeping fans waiting - there have been 10 deal sheets submitted. Ings is another, so I'm sure it'll happen. Even if it doesn't - wow, what a window. Bring on Wolves.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
304 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:21:08
Away to Leicester last season we had 6 players in the starting eleven who were over 30 years old - Baines, Williams, Jagielka, Rooney, Mirallas and Lennon.

We now have only 3 over 30 year olds in the squad. Steckelenberg, Baines and Jagielka.

Shaun Laycock
305 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:21:26
Squad numbers...Mina no 13 & Gomez no 8.
Christine Foster
306 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:22:49
Excited, stunned, happy.. At long, long last we are back. Brazilian, Barcelona, World cup, all in fantastic. Thank you Everton.
Joe McMahon
307 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:23:24
Besic deal to Leeds broken down to. So Besic and Bolasie are stil here for at least another 6 months. It's certainly a task for M&M to clear all the below par crap from the squad. Our Signings at least in 2018 (inc 2 in Jan) have at least been the standard we require. Koeman/Walsh should be fined.
Frank Crewe
308 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:24:27
Phil 304
I doubt any of those players will be in our starting 11 much this season.
Derek Knox
309 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:26:04
Steve @301, what do you foresee the starting eleven at Wolves to be, I'd be surprised due to the lateness of the window in relation to Saturday, if any will make the team a couple on the bench possibly.

I know Wolves have had a lot of new faces, but have done well pre-season in comparison to us, not confident about our defence at all.

Neil Mc
310 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:27:45
Pickford
Coleman. Mina. Zouma. Digne
Gomes/Gueye
Walcott. Bernard. Richarlison
Niasse. Tosun

Subs: Baines, Keane, Lookman, Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Holgate

Still to leave this window: Bolasie, Besic, Vlasic

Derek Knox
311 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:29:07
Thanks Joe @300, what a window compared to last year!
John Mckay
312 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:31:28
Seems like we've had a good window.
The Guardian say on the link from newsnow Everton sign 4. but then when click it say Everton sign 3 on deadline day but submitted paperwork just before 5pm... I'm guessing no one knows yet about Zouma.

Anyway good transfer window again, happy with richalison and Bernard might inject a little more pace in the middle.

After last summer I was thinking the players seemed good we spent a lot of money but they just seemed too slow last summer.

Anyway hoping for a better season be nice to break that top 6, but I'll just settle for seeing better football, last season was probably the worst for me to watch, since the Scot gemil and Walter Smith days...

Mark Tanton
313 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:32:10
For me it's:

Pickford

Keane
Mina
Digne

Walcott
Sigurdsson
Gueye
Schneiderlin
Richarlison

Tosun
Barnard

Subs:
Baines
Jagielka
Gomes
Lookman
Besic
Steklenberg

Colin Glassar
314 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:34:35
Zouma should be ok John. They’ll probably announce it later
Neil Mc
315 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:35:14
No Coleman Mark? Where would you fit him in?
David Reid
316 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:36:30
Well done to M,M&M for getting these deals done. I hope those whom they had deemed not fit for purpose get a move & we give the squad time to get us up & running. All we need now is Mr Usmanov to come on board & fund a new ground.
Rob Halligan
317 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:36:45
SSN just announcing the signing of Ings to Southampton. So maybe, as Steve says, it is being done one by one as per the deal sheet thing.
John Atkins
318 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:38:32
Joe #307

Pretty sure the deadline day isn’t finished regarding the movement to / from Championship Clubs / Players so the likes of Mo Besic and Y Bolasie etc still have time to sort loan deals

Mark Tanton
319 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:39:34
Ooops good point Neil! Barnard to bench, Walcott up top and Coleman as right wingback. Well spotted young man!
Dave Speed
320 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:41:59
Someone from the club has to confirm to the PL that the actual deal was done before 5pm, and hold up their right hand and say "Cross my heart and hope to die" that they're not telling porkies. The Zouma deal must be the tenth and last to be scrutinised.
Steve Ferns
321 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:42:31
Mark what makes you think Silva rips the pre season work up and goes with an unprepared back 3?

I would expect a disappointing side:

Pickford

Coleman Zouma Keane Digne

Gueye Schneiderlin
Walcott Sigurdsson Richarlison

Tosun

Rest of them being in the bench.

Michael Morgan
322 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:46:23
Joe @307,

The window is shut to buy and loan now, but we can still sell to European teams up until midnight on the 31st August, plus we can still loan players to Championship and below up until the 31st August.

So me might not necessarily have to wait till January to offload the players you mentioned or any other players that we want to offload.

Neil Mc
323 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:48:12
I can see that team Steve and understand starting Zouma ahead of Mina for the first game given his prem experience.

I hope he looks to quickly integrate the new players though otherwise this bubble of optimism may burst quite quickly

Steve Ferns
324 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:53:05
Neil, yes on Zouma. Also Mina is just back from the World Cup. He’ll need a pre-season so expect him to figure properly in a couple of weeks time.

Bernard will be at the same level as Mina or might even need longer.

Gomes will be two months at least.

Zouma should be ready and just needs adjustments.

That’s my thinking anyway.

Ernie Baywood
325 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:08:19
Just waking up here in Australia... So have we actually signed Zouma on loan? Nowhere is confirming it are they?
Ian Hams
326 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:21:14
What a great window, the best I can ever remember.

Just cant wait to see the final squad list to see who has no future left, and will be looking for loan moves to the championship or even better permanent moves to Europe.

Derek Knox
327 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:35:16
Ernie, it's still not been released whether he is or isn't an Everton player, Sky Sports saying it will be tomorrow when an announcement will be made.
I think it will be okay, all the paperwork was submitted and there was no feedback saying there were any irregularities. They will probably announce it tomorrow hopefully!
Martin Berry
328 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:39:59
We should all get on our knees and give thanks to Bill, Farhad, Marcel, Marco and all the backroom staff who have worked so hard to gives us probably the most memorable transfer window we have ever had.
I believe in God, he is a Blue !
Sam Hoare
330 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:50:22
I wonder who we might have ended up with if Allardyce and Walsh were still here? Lamine Kone and Slimani perhaps?

One of the best deadline days I can remember.

If I’m honest I still think we’ll lose to Wolves and that 7th this season would be a good achievement. These players will take a while to get match fit and form a cohesive unit. But there’s a plan at work here. A strategy I see where there wasn’t one last year.

Younger, hungry players with pace and power and some real guile. Pretty much everything I hoped for. The foundations forming for a team that can really challenge nearer the top.

We’ll get a few tonkings I expect. At least one of our new players will disappoint. But I think it’s gonna be a lot more fun.

Well done Everton. COYB!

Ernie Baywood
331 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:00:29
I still think we'll finish 8th or 7th too, Sam. When you think about it we're a pretty unreasonable lot - we expect big investment for minimal return.

But my hope is that our ownership see this as a long term plan. It's the only conclusion you can reach. If the aim was to hold position and stay in the gravy train then you could do that on a lot less. It looks like we want to make progress and maybe be placed in the event that one or two have a shocker.

Albert Perkins
332 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:05:29
This genie appeared to me in the middle of the night and offered me 5 wishes. Still waiting for Madonna. Waiting for the papers to go through?
Damian Wilde
333 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:11:26
Why do people think we'll lose to Wolves? Negative.

Great window, finally feeling excited about Everton for the first time in about three years.

Sam Hoare
334 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:18:16
Damian, I think we might lose to Wolves because they too have some pretty good players and a good manager. They’ve been excellent in preseason and mostly have the same team that know each other very well and are high on confidence from romping the Championship.

We on the other hand were dire in preseason and have half a squad bereft of confidence and the other half who’ve just met each other.

I hope we win of course but without checking I’d be fairly sure we’re not the bookies favourite. Negative or realistic?

Laurie Hartley
335 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:20:45
I was asleep here in Oz when all this drama was happening. What a terrific window. Looks like we may very well land Zouma on loan also.

Well done Brands and Silva and also Moshiri for having the courage to role the dice. I am full of hope again!

Liam Reilly
336 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:24:48
What interests me most is each of the signings citing Silva as the main reason that they signed.

Great window; mY take some time to gell and hopefully the faithful allow him that

Rian Magee
338 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:42:15
On hols and just getting caught up...well ride me sideways what a bloody brilliant deadline day!! hats off to everyone involved in getting these bits of transfer work done. Bonis of Zouma possibly being done in the morning!!

A MASSIVE improvement on what Walsh-ite done in transfers. Brands (inntandem with Silva) has certainly done his job..identitfied the weak areas and recruited, not just spending for the sake of it. A lot more pace and agressive attacking force now.

Sam, aye I think the bookies have Wolves as favourites, which in a way is understandable; a stable squad and set up vs a new manager and new squad. I'm on the fence, I don't expect us to win but I'm certainly not gonna rule it out.

Been thinking about the dire preseason and I have said before its not really sensible to gauge things based on a preason. Its more a fitness exercise and getting used to new tactics and systems. Worth bearing in mind too that its probably a lot more difficult to properly give your all when its not really a competitive game, the result means very little (for the players that have a near certain starting XI place at least). I think we can expect a lot more focus when its a proper, competitive league game. I'm expecting it to be a month or so before we really start seeing the gaffers ideas and the squading clicking into place.
Regardless, things are going to be a lot more entertaining and exciting than last year. Surely we've taken some big strides in the right direction!!

I think I can safely bid you all a pleasant nights kip after todays dealings. COYB!!

Mike Corcoran
339 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:57:52
Great business from the Slim Shady duo but will probably be mid September before we see a proper shape emerging. Be patient Goodison
Colin Glassar
340 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:58:32
Can we now start, in three minutes, speculating about the January window? Neymar anyone?
Mike Gaynes
341 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:21:20
Fascinating summary of everybody's net spend from the transfer window:

1. Liverpool - £155.4m
2. Chelsea - £87.3m
3. West Ham - £83.3m4
4. Fulham - £68.1m
5. Wolves - £64.1m
6. Everton - £60.6m
7. Arsenal - £59.8m
8. Brighton - £53.6m
9. Man Utd - £51.6m
10. Soton - £44.5m
11. Burnley - £29.5
12. Bourne. - £29.4m
13. Hudders - £29.3m
14. Cardiff - £28.5m
15. Man City - £25.7m
16. Palace - £9.5m
17. Leicester - £5.9m
18. Tottenham - £-2.2
19. Watford - £-13.4
20. Barcodes - £-28.7m

So Spurs, Watford and Newcastle were the net sellers.

Mike Gaynes
342 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:28:21
Steve #324, I'm skeptical that any of the newest signings will be in the lineup in 40 hours from now.

I'd expect to see Jags and Baines still starting.

Geoff Lambert
343 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:40:55
I am suprised at people saying the new signings have not played together. Neither have the team from last year just a bunch of lads having a kick around.
If they are fit which like ours they should be why not play them?
They couldn't be any worse than are current squad.
Martin Berry
345 Posted 10/08/2018 at 08:34:49
I forgot to mention and fans take note!

Expect some "Fancy Steppin" when our new signings hit the back of the net. Bernard will do his Samba. Mina does a kind of hip wiggle. And Richarlison does his "pigeon dance" ?

Will underwear be thrown on the pitch?

Paul Bernard
346 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:08:48
Like many Evertonian's, I am normally very critical about the club. They always manage to raise expectations then let us down spectacularly.

This window however, everyone from Moshiri to Brands to Silva, including the negotiating and admin teams have played it all well beyond expectations. Not just the in's but the deadwood going too.

Fair play blues, you managed a three window turnaround in a matter of weeks. As fans we must surely be patient with the new team on and off the pitch, this could be the start we looked for last year.

Dermot Byrne
347 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:17:03
The other thing to consider is this is only the first example of M and M in a transfer window...and only weeks after starting.

I see world ☮️ and an end to poverty as well as an Everton phoenix rising on the banks of the Mersey.

Can supply evidence for all 3 visions (well only the last one to be honest).

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