Everton to play Southampton in Carabao Cup third round

Thursday, 30 August, 2018 64comments  |  Jump to last
Everton have been handed a tie against Southampton at Goodison Park in the next round of the League Cup following this evening's draw.

The Blues overcame Rotherham United in the second round last night and their reward is a test against the side they beat in their second Premier League fixture of the season earlier this month.

Ties will be played the week of 24th September, with four of them being all-Premier League ties, the most notable of which for neutrals will be Liverpool versus Chelsea.


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Dermot Byrne
1 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:14:09
Better than Chelsea!
Jim Bennings
2 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:14:54
Third time Southampton will have visited Goodison in the space of 4 months, is that some kind of record?

They will be as sick of the place as we are of welcoming them here!

Brian Wilkinson
3 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:16:00
Home tie again... Happy Days.

Looks like the devil has called in his debt to our neighbours: Chelsea in the cup and PSG and Napoli in the other cup.

Jim Bennings
4 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:21:14
The best thing about it is Southampton will be having one eye (or arguably both) on Premier League survival even though they have given us two really difficult games in May and week before last so I’m not taking it for granted.

I honestly believe this Cup is there to be had this season, we say it every year but it really does represent our most realistic chance of a trophy.

Let’s do it!

Derek Knox
5 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:22:37
Yes, the draw has been kind to us, giving us home advantage once again, but, as poor as Southampton appeared to be, playing a team like last night would be folly.

I have no confidence in Stekelenburg whatsoever, I would have rather seen Virginia in there as he looks to be a good keeper for one so young.

Hopefully we have a full and fit squad to pick from by then.

Jim Bennings
6 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:23:39

I’d hope to see Bernard and Mina up and running by then so they ought to play in this game.

Peter Roberts
7 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:27:43
Excellent. Stekelenburg in goal and Pickford on the bench so he can do to Sparky what Hughes thought he did to Charlie Austin... πŸ˜€
Jim Bennings
8 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:35:39
Play Pickford in goal just so he can get on old Cobweb Head’s (Mark Hughes) tits again.
Gordon White
10 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:38:13
Notwithstanding any further injuries, Silva will have a full squad to choose from then. Assuming Lookman gets over his groin injury... ;-)

Eugene Kearney
11 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:42:35
We'll be a bit more wary about their propensity to kick us (especially Richarlison) instead of trying to play football.

We'll have all our new signings fit by then too.

We'll thump them!


David Pearl
12 Posted 30/08/2018 at 19:47:37
They did like to tackle through the back of the man the other week, hopefully our casualties will be back for a runabout. This is our year!!
Kevin Prytherch
14 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:20:31
I hope we go full strength for this one. A couple of big teams usually fall here by playing weakened teams. Could give us a good passage to the later rounds.
Ray Smith
15 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:33:37
I watched Southampton kick us all over the park.

Hughes hides behind his incompetence to produce a team capable of playing the game without resorting to knocking everybody in the air.

Marco, put out a first 11 and knock them out of the cup, and with a bit of luck they will be relegated all the time Hughes is their manager.

I haven't ever had a downer on a team but, after watching them 2 weeks ago, IMO they don't belong in the Premier League!!!

Dan Brierley
16 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:36:09
I've seen a lot of excitement on TW over this cup over the last week or so. I'm clearly in a minority, as I don't find it has any value at all to invest time and energy into it.

I have always cringed when kopites have gone on about winning it, given that no decent club ever puts out a good team and starts a season with the aim of winning it. Beating the likes of Birmingham or Cardiff in a final doesn't excite me at al.

We go on about needing a 'big club' mentality, and then, on the other hand, we get a hard-on over winning a cup nobody in the world of football gives a fuck about?

Rant over.

John G Davies
17 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:39:11
You won't be wanting a ticket if we get to the final then, Dan?
David McMullen
18 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:42:33
Good draw... could be worse. Defo want us to win this pot this season. We needs Silvaware!!!
Will Mabon
19 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:44:58
I'll have that ticket, John. Are you buying?
Dermot Byrne
20 Posted 30/08/2018 at 20:54:30
Well Dan, if you are "clearly in a minority" then perhaps you may be wrong when you say it is "a cup nobody in the world of football gives a fuck about."

I know what you mean but maybe thousands of fans fancy a day out?

Brent Stephens
21 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:03:53
I fancy a day out. I value the cup.
Eddie Dunn
22 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:05:28
Dan, the winners are usually Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool.

Brum won in 2011, Swans in 2013, and both were Premier League teams.

I for one would love us to go to Wembley and win it. I saw us draw with the RS in '84, listened to us lose to Villa in '77.

I would like us to put our name on it.

Neil Lawson
23 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:14:00
We have avoided the top teams. We are at home. We are playing a team we are more than capable of despatching. We have to be happy.

Now we need to take this cup seriously and put out a proper team. A few changes maybe, but not wholesale. We have to set out to get to Wembley, to win and to head into Europe next season.

Colin Glassar
24 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:14:50
Good draw. If we make it to the semis, I hope we don't bottle it as usual.
Neil Lawson
25 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:20:08
And Dan, you are of course entitled to your opinion, just a shame that it's complete baloney.
Andy Crooks
26 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:21:24
Dan (#16), your post is outdated by about three years. Premier League clubs who do not fear relegation take this trophy seriously. Look at the last number of finalists. It is a chance of European football. Great nights under the lights.

I guess you think it is beneath us. Why?

Ray Smith
27 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:39:47
Dan 16

Are you saying that this is not part of progressing by not wanting silver in the cabinet!!!

We are woefully short of success over the last 20 yrs, and when we show some resolve you knock it.

Rome wasn’t built in a day, but even they had to lay the foundations.

There is something brewing at Goodison and I want to be part of it. If you don’t fair enough, but don’t knock those that do!!!

Tony Abrahams
28 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:46:45
Losing is even more contagious than winning. Why be a football fan, if you don't want to see your team running around Wembley with the cup?
Bobby Mallon
29 Posted 30/08/2018 at 21:47:31
Dan @ 16 this is the only cup we should be trying to win as we have never won it. Plus it gets you into Europe early
Dave Lynch
31 Posted 30/08/2018 at 22:12:30
Me... I'll take any domestic cup at present.

Get it won, fuck the doom mongers who don't value it, we can rock Wembley to the foundations come the final.

Lenny Jameson
32 Posted 30/08/2018 at 22:26:25
So right, Tony. There's some crackers on here!

The best 3 days of my life was Rotterdam in '85. That miserable bleeder probably wanted us to lose that as well because it wasn't the European Cup!!

Jim Bennings
33 Posted 30/08/2018 at 22:32:50
Everton Football Club need a damn trophy!

If we get to a semi-final of this in January then the 1st or 2nd leg at Goodison under the lights I can assure you it will be proper rocking so don't tell me no (proper) Evertonians will give a shit about this Cup then because they WILL.

There isn't a Cup out there that I don't want to see this club win and this is a chance of silverware.

Everton finishing 7th or 8th (or 5th or 6th) does NOT represent success regardless of how brainwashed modern day Blues have been turned by the Moyes years and the media telling us β€œlittle old Everton punch above their weight”.

Success is hands-on Cups and medals around necks β€” not finishing a few points above 8th place.

Patrick Fennell
34 Posted 30/08/2018 at 23:13:45
Bobby 29 totally agree with you... it's European football if you win... how can someone say that it's not a valuable trophy?
Mark McParlan
35 Posted 30/08/2018 at 23:52:15
Fine with this draw to be honest. A home tie is of massive importance. Southampton are a team who've struggled at Goodison for decades now.

Get into the round of 16 and it is absolutely imperative that we have a right go at this competition.

I cannot understand those saying we shouldn't bother with this competition. News flash people: this is not the 1980's anymore! We have won precisely nothing since 1995. Many posters here have seen us lift 4 League Titles – but in my entire lifetime, Everton have won nothing. Absolutely zero. I don't care if it's only the League Cup.

Everton Football Club need a trophy. There is an entire young generation of fans like me who have never seen Everton win anything. That isn't good enough. Prioritise. The. Cups.

Jamie Crowley
36 Posted 31/08/2018 at 00:32:17
Mark @ 35 couldn't agree more. You've hit the nail on the head and said everything I'm thinking about this competition and our approach to it.

If we do what we should, and dispatch of Southampton at home, we're in the final 16.

At that point, we need to go for it. It's silverware, and Europe all rolled into one.

This isn't Mickey Mouse, and it seriously gets on my nerves that anyone would arrogantly dismiss this opportunity for success.

What in the hell is the point of playing any game or competition if you don't want to WIN? If you want anything less, grab your sticks, hit the links, and twaddle around the golf course shooting a 90 and having an nice, relaxing morning / afternoon.

Dan Brierley
37 Posted 31/08/2018 at 01:02:23
I'm not surprised by the reaction on this! For me it's about the league, league, and the league. For financial reasons, and the worldwide exposure that the Premier League brings.

Carabao Cup games aren't even televised, that shows how recognised it is. Beyond the first eleven we still have a very thin squad in terms of quality players, which is obviously the reason we saw a lot of players rested last night.

Of course, I recognise the 'day out for the fans' part, I'd love to see Everton at Wembley. But I feel challenging for top six and competing with the top sides would bring us more overall in terms of progression and image, than ending mid-table with a Carabao Cup win. In a perfect world, we could do both, but I don't think the depth is there for that. And I don't really give a fuck about being goaded by kopites over the bare cabinet thing, I have no jealousy at all about their 'success'.

By having this opinion doesn't mean I want to take away anything from other fans that have a different view, I fully respect everyone has their own feelings on the cup drought. Thankfully the team selection has nothing to do with me!

Simon Smith
38 Posted 31/08/2018 at 01:25:49
Good draw but we have to play a stronger side than in the last game I'd suspect. Imo we should be starting Pickford in all competitions, it's daft to leave him out of the cup.

Yes, Stekelenburg wants game time, but let's be honest, we can't win the league so I will never understand why we would take our best keeper out of the goal in the games which give us the best chance to win a competition.

Derek Thomas
39 Posted 31/08/2018 at 01:53:24
Nobody called it a Micky Mouse cup when we were in the final vs Lverpool... nor before the games vs Aston Villa or Man City for that matter.

Step 1: We've got rid of nearly all the dead wood.

Step 2: Start improving on the pitch... WiP.

Step 2a: Keep improving.

Step 3: Finesse this improvement into something more tangible than stats and an early feel-good vibe.

Step 4: Win League Cup.

Clarence Yurcan
40 Posted 31/08/2018 at 01:59:16
For those that keep falsely promulgating that the League Cup isn't cared about by "big clubs" here are the last 10 winners

Manchester City
Manchester United
Manchester City
Manchester City
Swansea (a year they finished 9th in the Premier League btw, not battling relegation)
Birmingham City
Manchester United
Manchester United

Only one "bad" team in there, Birmingham, as noted the year Swansea won they had their highest Premier League finish ever and were lauded that whole season for playing stylish football, if you recall.

Victor Yu
41 Posted 31/08/2018 at 03:09:38
We need to field a strong team. We should always aim at winning trophies. Don't treat is as a "doesn't matter" cup.
Karl Meighan
42 Posted 31/08/2018 at 06:26:38
I would like to win this and would be putting out as strong a team as possible, winning any silverware gets the players a taste of success and often leads to better things on a regular basis.

I don't understand why extra time has been axed and then play a two legged semi final, surely if its about playing less minutes then a semi at a nuetral ground should be played.

Brian Porter
43 Posted 31/08/2018 at 06:34:42
I think the Football League Challenge Cup began to lose its kudos years ago when sponsorship raised its nasty little head and the name was changed to The Milk Cup. Now come on, who the hell wants to win The Milk Cup? Over the years it has been known as The Littlewoods Challenge Cup, The Rumbelows Cup, The Coca-Cola Cup, The Worthington Cup, The Carling Cup, The Capital One Cup and now the barely pronounceable Carabao Cup.

Great names eh? But they each in their own way diminished or tarnished the image of the second most important cup competition in the land.

Regardless of the name, it is still in essence the same competition, though further devalued by rule changes to suit the big boys in doing away with replays, then extra time and it has deteriorated into something of a joke to many people.

BUT for the winners there is a nice big shiny trophy and a route into European football, so to anyone who says we shouldn't prioritise the Efl, Carabao Cup or whatever they want to call it, OF COURSE WE SHOULD.

So, come on Silva, make it important by playing a strong team in every match, play to win, and who knows, we might actually see the Unpronounceable Cup being paraded at Goodison Park for the first time, long overdue, but welcome all the same.

Jim Harrison
44 Posted 31/08/2018 at 07:23:24
Meaningless cup? Bollocks. Every game should be approached as an opportunity to win. If we win a cup as a result, all the better.

It's a route to Europe early in the season too. And I believe we don't have to play in the stupidly early qualifying rounds?

John G Davies
45 Posted 31/08/2018 at 07:55:49

Looks like Silva has got the players enthusiasm going as well as the majority of Blues:

Tom Davies already feels like he's a better player after just a few weeks with new Everton boss Marco Silva
Terry McLavey
46 Posted 31/08/2018 at 08:02:29
Any silverware is good for a club. These cups only tend to be become "Mickey Mouse" trophies when you get knocked out!
Stan Schofield
47 Posted 31/08/2018 at 08:56:57
The League Cup is important, but the importance is relative. From a manager's perspective, if he's competing for the highest place in the Premier League, the Champions League, and the League Cup, he'll prioritise the Premier League and Champions League over the League Cup, and play 'weaker' sides accordingly in the League Cup.

However, if he's secured an acceptable Premier League position, and he's knocked out of the Champions League, but he's in the semi-final of the League Cup, he'll prioritise the League Cup, and pick his strongest side.

So the priority depends on timing and circumstance.

Tony Everan
48 Posted 31/08/2018 at 11:27:49
We are not in Europe so this cup is important. I want a cup run, excitement and an interest through the winter months.

One or two of the top 6 will be gone after this round, so if we beat Southampton we will be 4th favourite to win the thing.

It may not be the most prestigious cup but it can be great for supporters and players. It can act as a catalyst, bringing confidence and optimism to push on and do well in the league.

The importance of it is not to be lightly dismissed.

Ste Traverse
49 Posted 31/08/2018 at 12:58:30
People like delusional Dan Brierley would no doubt be first in line for Wembley tickets should we get to the final of this.

I was only a kid during our '80s glory years but remember them so I really feel for our younger fans who've never had the thrill of seeing an Everton captain lifting a piece of silverware. It's ridiculous you've got to be at least late 20s to recall this club achieve anything.

We've not won anything for decades so anyone who thinks we can turn our nose up at winning this is clearly beyond all help.

Tony Abrahams
50 Posted 31/08/2018 at 13:08:04
Everton have got some of the most loyal and passionate fans in the country, and all the way through the generations as well.

My biggest wish is to see my kids see us win a cup, and for people like Mark @35.

Liam Reilly
51 Posted 31/08/2018 at 13:14:48
Hughes will not play his strongest 11 as he'll be concentrating on the Premier League, so it has to be the first choice 11 for me and no excuses.

6 ties to win this competition (5 if we qualified for Europe the season before). That's hardly going to burn out the first team and could have European Qualification ticked by February next year to give M&M a glorious opportunity to turn some promising heads.
Dave Evans
52 Posted 31/08/2018 at 13:49:52
Well said, Mark @ 35.
Steve Croston
53 Posted 31/08/2018 at 13:59:36
To all the fans who think the League Cup is not important, I can only say one thing – I don't believe it!! (Victor Meldrew style).

Let's say we have 50 'competetive' games this season (League and 2 cups), our current first 11 should easily be able to handle that over the next 9 months. That's about 5 and a half games a month on average. With all our new fitness experts and technology we now employ, if our Β£100k-plus per week brigade can't handle that, how the fuck are we going to handle the Champions League?

Prioritise everything and let's dust off the trophy cabinet and put something, anything, inside it.

I know everything is about opinions (nowhere more so than ToffeeWeb), but if you disagree with me then you're very, very wrong. πŸ˜‰

Stan Schofield
54 Posted 31/08/2018 at 15:21:43
The list of clubs @40 shows that the League Cup is in the main won by the 'elite' sides. When we're an elite side again (hopefully very soon), we'll obviously (because we'll be better than most) have a better chance of filling the trophy cabinet. For me, the main focus is attaining that elite status, from which winning things like the League Cup is a 'spin-off'.

Winning the League up with a lesser status, like Swansea or Birmingham, is nice in itself, but in itself is NOT a priority. The priority is elite status, where we improve enough to win trophies, and in other years come close to winning trophies, on a consistent basis.

I've seen the club lift 8 trophies. It would give pleasure to add the league cup to the list, but not as much pleasure as winning the Premier League, and the Champions League. That's simple prioritisation, which you can't get away from.

Colin Grierson
55 Posted 31/08/2018 at 17:03:09
Fans of the RS, Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea have always believed they are special and that they deserve to be challenging on all fronts.

That shower have the arrogance to dismiss every competition they enter other than the Premier League and the Champions League as 'Mickey Mouse' β€” even more recently the FA Cup FFS! God forbid we ever end up sounding like any of those sanctimonious twats!

Success is built. It is earned and should be celebrated. Winning a match is success. Winning a string of matches is greater success. Winning a trophy is even greater success!

We haven't failed to win this competition before because it's not important. We should try to win EVERY game we play. End of!

John Keating
56 Posted 31/08/2018 at 17:03:13
It's not just winning a Cup it's what it brings to the team, club and supporters

The lift it would give everyone connected to Everton would be massive

Look at 1984. The belief we got from winning the FA Cup that year transformed us with basically the same squad the following season

I'm not saying the same thing would happen now but the feelgood factor and confidence for everyone would be fantastic

Steve Croston
57 Posted 31/08/2018 at 17:48:53
Stan @ 54. We are about as far from winning the Premier League and Champions League at the moment as we are from winning the Intergalactic Nations Trophy (currently held by a team from Uranus I believe).

Our history ensures that we will fortunately never be held in the same regard as the likes of Birmingham or Swansea. Winning this trophy would be the first step towards 'elite' status and also instill a winning mentality at the club.

To not prioritise this cup, ridiculous name or not, would be a monumental mistake. We could win it if we have a good draw; what's not to like?

Peter Lee
58 Posted 31/08/2018 at 18:33:28
Put the strongest team out. Prepare like its a Premier League game but based on what we are going to do rather than the opposition. Keep it that way until we are three up.

Take it seriously, there is early Europa League entry available. A team from outside the Sky Six winning this puts a light under what could well be some shakey squads from those clubs in the Premier League. That helps our cause.

Stan Schofield
59 Posted 31/08/2018 at 18:57:09
Steve @57: Your first statement is an assertion that is questionable. Who knows where we could be in a short time, given the right desire and execution for success? For me, as a kid I was brought up on elite Everton teams, and I expect (not just hope) that we'll be winning trophies very soon. Football fortunes can change quickly.

I agree that we should aim to win this cup. But the first priority is to win games consistently, to progress to dominating the opposition, whilst playing entertaining football (because it is supposed to be entertaining, and the greatest Everton teams were).

If we do all that, we could win the Premier League, then the Champions League. If we also win the FA Cup and the League Cup, all the better. But the Premier League and Champions League would give me most pleasure.

Steve Croston
60 Posted 31/08/2018 at 19:48:05
Stan, I agree with all you have said, but success is surely measured against past achievements (recent and otherwise).

We have won nowt for a quarter of a decade and it depresses me beyond belief. If we were in a European competition, then I would definitely be inclined to treat the League Cup as a non-priority, but let's be really realistic (not pessimistic) β€” this Carabao Cup represents our best chance of silverware right now.

Look at Spurs, loads has changed there and they look awesome at times... but no trophies in their cabinet.

Anyway, I share your hope and optimism for the future. I would just like to win this cup before it ceases to exist (like the European Cup-Winners Cup we won in '85)... our red cousins can never say they won that!

Stan Schofield
61 Posted 31/08/2018 at 20:18:25
Steve, yes, totally, let's try and win it. Perhaps all I'm saying is that, if we won it but failed to become 'elite' again, it wouldn't count anywhere near as much as not winning it but becoming elite, that is looking like realistic candidates for the 'more major' trophies like the Premier League and Champions League.

Silva clearly believed that the team he put out on Wednesday was well able to win that game, although a lot of supporters on TW seem to disagree with the idea of putting out a team that's not the 'No 1' team selection.

Lenny Kingman
62 Posted 31/08/2018 at 20:25:00
A bye to the next round.

As time goes by and the team blends, could be the year we eventually win it.

Jack Convery
63 Posted 31/08/2018 at 20:41:47
Let's take it seriously and have a real go for the League Cup. It will also give us a chance to shaft Sparky and let him see who is the better team. Especially after his moan-filled press conference after the Premier League game.
Andy Meighan
64 Posted 31/08/2018 at 22:09:35
Clarence (#40) got it just about right. Not a prayer we will win it. As he says, look at the winners of the last 10 years... Enough said. We aren't even on the same page as most of them, Birmingham Swansea excluded.

If we do get through, we'll meet one of Spurs, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or Man City in the semi-final and we all know the script, don't we? That's why I fail to get lifted by the draws in the early rounds β€” it builds me up to let me down...

Peter Lee
65 Posted 01/09/2018 at 12:06:15
Andy, my mate says that I'm a "glass more than half-full, look at the shape" type of Evertonian.

Probably true, but regarding the teams you mention, Spurs have a thin squad, will prioritise the Premier League and Champions League and could easily be snookered by a couple of injuries to key players. United are anything but and may well be playing for a different manager soon. Either Chelski or the shite definitely won't be in the next round and, depending on how things go, the CC won't be a priority.

Even knocked out of Champions League, the Europa League gives a Champions League place if you win it.

Think my mate's right.

Blake Olsen
66 Posted 07/09/2018 at 14:26:40
Does anyone know when tickets go on sale for this match?
Brian Wilkinson
68 Posted 10/09/2018 at 16:39:39
The game has been put back to the following Tuesday 2 October Blake; after season ticket holders etc, they go on general sale on Friday 21 September.

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