Mirallas not impressed by Allardyce

Yeesh.

Pity the Belgian didn't show full commitment to the cause on far too many occasions, now that's what I call stealing a living.

"It's never your fault" etc

Still not getting it, eh, Kev?

If he thought Martinez would offer him a place in squad for the World Cup, he should first have looked in the mirror at his own performances.

I was surprised to see he actually got into double figures for goals scored back in 2014-15, when he seemed to benefit from partnering with Lukaku.

Never really scaled the heights with us, we're well rid.

It's so frustrating as the kind of money these players are on for not even a full-time job, you think they would put a little effort in.

He needs a reality check. He never was going to be in the first 11 last season. His ability has diminished since the 2014-15 season. Even then, his attitude was questionable but a lot of people let it slide because he was one of our most creative players. Albeit an inconsistent one.

He's now a shadow of his former self and we have much better players. He needs to get his head down and try and get some kind of form because I'm sceptical that Fiorentina will want to keep him beyond next summer.

I for one am grateful for Sam's time here. Yeah, the football was dire but he done a good job.

Allardyce and Mirallas? Pleased they will not be seen anywhere in the vicinity of L4 again. We move on and are better for it.

Allardyce's attitude, Keane's foot, plus all the other stuff we didn't hear about. A toxic lack of proper leadership...are all clubs like this behind the sences to some extent.? Or is it just ours?

He scored some great and important goals for us but his ego ultimately let him down and now he is trying to look for excuses.

Move on, lad... we are. COYB.

The lad had all the talent but not the desire it would seem apart from wanting to kick that cheating diving racist tosser, we should at least praise him for that!

Won't last of course but nice to give the old trumpet a little air!

So I'm incredibly sorry Kevin never set the world on fire at Goodison, but you can only imagine that Fat Sam wasn't in the least bit interested in anyone who had passion. Meanwhile, ٤m later...

Would I have him back? Probably not as the game has moved on and he is knocking on a bit now.

I think Bernard could be a Kev Mirralas (flashes of brilliance but very frustrating). I don't think Lookman will be with us for long enough to find out.

I hope Silva has plans to have a more fluid attack the likes of Man City, Spurs and dare I mention them the RS. If so then Theo and Cenk's days are numbered.

I kind of admired Sam when he was at Bolton and his tactics how to beat Arsenal, at the time I thought was genius in a way as Arsenal were pretty much invincible at the time.

Don't get me wrong, Sam is a dinosaur of the modern game and we were under no illusion when he arrived here as to what to expect.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/05/12/Mirallas-signs-new-contract

Mirallas was a very good player in his first three seasons with us.

Sam DID do a good job for us.

His remit was to keep us up and he did. Job done.

For me, we looked crap before he came and relegation was a genuine possibility. He steadied the ship and banished talk of relegation.

As for Mirallas, he should tell his grandkids, sincerely, ‘I could have been somebody' cos he really could have.

Such a waste of talent.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but Unsworth's Premier League record was W2 L2 D1. It was the heavy defeats in the Europa League that done him in especially the one after the Saints defeat. There was every chance we'd have been comfortable if Moshiri had not have panicked.

Allardyce's alleged defensive qualities saw us beaten by half time in games against Man City, Arsenal and Tottenham and saw some of the most woeful football I've seen and an atmosphere that ranged between complete apathy and the most toxic since the lowest days of Johnson's reign .

Finishing 8th with 49 points will take some doing again and is more to do with the dearth of quality in the Premier League than anything Allardyce did. We finished 14th with a similar tally under Walter Smith.

Although you may have felt relegation was a genuine possibility, Unsworth had pulled us out of the relegation zone & Allardyce's subsequent performance was almost identical to that of the caretaker manager he succeeded.

Including Coleman, who was still recovering from injury last November, seven of the starting eleven in our last two matches were not playing with us twelve months ago. That Allardyce managed to get us to 49 points and 8th in the table with such a bunch of misfits was a minor miracle.

It will be interesting to see if the money spent on improving the squad and the playing style is reflected in points and league position this season.

He didn't save our club, he fucking robbed millions off us... By the way, I believe Mirallas is just as big a robber.

Unsworth took 7 points from the 5 League matches he was in charge of. At the same rate over the subsequent 24 League matches Allardyce would have been in line to get 33.6 points – he actually got 34. A miraculous improvement indeed... of 0.016 points per match.

Mind you, Allardyce did have more time to work with the players & a transfer window to improve the squad, so I suppose a small improvement is perhaps slightly short of a miracle.

I honestly think you are wrong there. We were heading the wrong way under Unsy and I think the players got the message, with the new boss watching (and talking to them before the game). It could well have been a goodwill send off to Unsy, but it begs the question why they left it too late to save him.

We will never know what might have happened but, despite the standard of the football, and the whole Allardyce ego trip, I was mighty relieved that we came through it with our Premier League status intact.

It may have been a year wasted, but it could have been a lot worse.

Talked about a move away any time he was in any sort of form, wanted sympathy any time it wasn't going right.

Lazy and over rated is my verdict.

Unsworth apologists?

All things being hypothetical now, but if the whole point of last season was to ‘not get relegated', I still reckon Unsworth would have achieved that at a much lower economical cost to Mr Allardyce. Don't think anyone argues David was a long term option, just a far cheaper stop gap.

I mean, where there any other ‘highlights' last season beyond the West Ham game?

Even thinking about last season is enough to consider wondering who owes me a refund. I know people have complaints about the current campaign but up to last season. For the money spent, even Big Sam got what £50million there abouts, it made Walter look competent and exciting.

In that scenario Sam would have paid for most of his wages in a higher league placing. Of course that's conjecture and my opinion and we don't where Unsworth would have finished for sure, but I saw enough after the thrashing away at Southampton to think bringing someone in was the right call.

After the rollercoaster ride of a season 8th was a very good finish. Big Sam did a good job on paper and did what he was paid to do. But let's not pretend that the football was enjoyable at any time. It was the worst I've ever seen. It makes me appreciate what Silva's trying to do. We're now playing good football again and seem to be forging an identity. Something that was lost in recent seasons.

One was a disappointment; the other should never have been hired.

I'm glad he's gone, I don't think he or Mirallas were/are the future for our club but, at a point in time, they were what we needed.

Shame really, he should've been an important creative force for us. As for his recent travails... you can't run away from yourself, Kev!

In hindsight, he was never as good as he thought he was but to be successful you need confidence and a strong mentality and he still has that going for him but ultimately he's no longer good enough for us.

After Moyes, our club has been pooped upon and his attitude and performances have suffered more than most. I'm surprised he's still at the club but thought Silva may have been able to get the best out of him.

Clearly Silva didn't fancy him or he had demanded Richarlison be brought in and Mirallas moved on.

Maybe the players were relieved to be getting rid of Unsworth and Ferguson, but as bad as the hammers, were on the night, Everton were on their knees before this game.

We all have our own opinions, I've read people saying Allardyce turned Rooney, into a midfielder, but was this because he picked the team and watched Wayne, score a hat-trick, or because Unsworth had suddenly decided to give Rooney another try in a different position?

People in glass houses etc...

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You have to laugh at the audacity of these 2, Mirallas claiming the club is no longer a family more of a business. This is how it should have been run from the beginning not a comfortable bolt hole to earn millions for doing very little. He doesnt mention why Olympiacos cut short his loan spell no doubt that was Evertons fault as well.

Now the self confessed cocaine addict is saying how badly he was treated at Everton and having a go at Phil Neville, saying he didn't know how he played so many games for Man Utd and England. Because unlike you he made the most of what he had and always gave 100% again something that was alien to you.

Oh but wait, Mirallas had his contract extended pre M&M didn't he? Pure Kenwright that.

So one loss in an U18 derby is enough for you to go well and truly off the rails is it?

I don't think Drenthe or Atsu we're ever described as ‘star signings'. In fact, both were loans that had great potential. Drenthe was a worthwhile acquisition and was a player who could get you off your seat at a time when flair was badly lacking at the club. Ultimately he proved too much of a loose cannon.

Atsu was completely different. Martinez just couldn't find space for him and I didn't see enough of him to agree or disagree with that decision.

Neither deal was particularly costly to the club. I don't know why you'd cite them as an issue. There's plenty of reasons to have a go at Kenwright and I think you've missed the lot of them.

You neglected to mention, Januzaj, Nacer Chadli, Carrasco. I think those are the players he was thinking of, don't you?

His really improved since his world cup stint for Belgium and has been in great form for Frankfurt in Germany, definitely worth brands having a look at him but I expect other big clubs are watching his devolopment.

Kev, you've taken is for a ride for far too long. I hope you enjoy the millions you swindled us for.

How anyone can be grateful for luddite Sam's time here is beyond me.

We were never going down & panicked. We somehow finished 8th in a shockingly poor league playing shockingly poor football.

We'd have done that with or without Sam.

He's gone now breathe calmly move on again .pretend it never happened.

As for missing the mark with that tosser Kenwright I simply didn't want to here repeat, again, the litany of complaint against him that I've previously many times spelt out, together with loads of other contributors.

I just thought signing dross like those three justified condemnation of the cheque-signer at the time, and any bent bastard who he'd invited to guide his hand, that's all.

Quite a good finisher on his day; I would have liked to have seen him play more games as striker in that period. But, for me, he will always be remembered for possibly the worst tackle I've seen in Premier League history (and probably the best tackle in Premier League history) when he pole-axed Saurez in that derby. At least he got that right!