Jagielka not likely to go anywhere next month

Jagielka is the 4th choice centre-half.

True but in Jagielka's case, he is very experienced and nearing the end of his career. If we have an injury crisis, with his experience he is a safer stop gap than Holgate. There's no harm in keeping around a Jags, a Terry or an O'Leary until their contract runs down. Even if he is not playing, he is an influence in training for our other youngish centre-halves.

The foolish sentimentality is when we turn around and offer him a new 5-year deal as he is about to hang it up. Hopefully we won't do that.

You know he will always give his best. It will be interesting to see where Jagielka and Baines are at the end of this season.

Even with hindsight that was a belter, up there with Moyes's decision to play Lescott ahead of Baines at left back. Before this sounds like a go at our former coach, and I had many a go at him, he did make some bloody good choices as well.

I'll not be using abbreviations any more. No offences meant to any one.

I cringe when I remember that season opener in 2008 versus Blackburn with Jags center-mid alongside Rodwell with Baines on LW.

Everton: Howard, Neville, Yobo, Lescott, Nuno Valente (78' Baxter), Arteta, Rodwell, Jagielka, Baines, Osman, Yakubu.
Subs Not Used: Turner, Jutkiewicz, Gosling, Agard, Kissock, Wallace.

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That goal!!!!!!!!!!!

I was at Mulligan's Irish Pub here in Ponte Vedra, Florida, with two fellow Blues - one from the Wirral (great dude, if the Wirral gets stick it certainly isn't because of this fine fella) and one from uppity Formby (played for the Blues in the U18 FA Cup final moons ago, best FL friend, fantastic human being, best "Proddy" friend as he often points out).

Great company, what a moment, I'll never forget it.

I screamed. I ran around. What a strike. A laser beam that saved the day.

With a draw. Here's hoping for a win this Spring at Goodison. ;0)

Jags has a part to play in the September of his years. I've often been critical of him, especially with his tunnel antics - all friendly and not ready for the pending war as it were.

But a great player and true Blue in my opinion. I'll always wish him the best and hope he finishes his career Blue.

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I think Dowell and Holgate to Rangers would be fine for them, us and Rangers.

The thought of strengthening Rangers for a title run with our players makes me a bit sick to my stomach.

Let's find another Club to loan them to.

The average Premier League player earns more in one season than I have or will earn in my lifetime.

Jagielka has been a great captain; shame he never won anything

Interesting times ahead — both on and off the field...

I wish one or two of current central defenders could score as many goals as Lescott did, albeit some of his came when he was playing left back.

He has been great for us and would get into an all-time 11 who had never won the league for me.

Do we still need him at the club? I would like to think that he could have a role somewhere.

We need to keep moving out players who get good wages but don't play; this may sound cold but let's be honest, all these loyal players are multi-millionaires so their loyalty has been rewarded.

Jagielka, McCarthy, Schneiderlin, Pennington, Browning, Garbutt, Besic, Niasse, Tosun, Williams, Martina, plus possibly Galloway and Walcott – all need moving on in the summer. The biggest plus is the above would save us around 𧽴k per week, the only downfall is we will only get around 㿞M to 㿭M in for them which currently buys you just two first team players.

He's a great footballer, works hard but needs to improve his finishing which hopefully Silva can help him with; but move him on? No from me.

McCarthy neither. A fit McCarthy would challenge Gana and that's what we need in every position.

Theo has scored how many this season ?

The answer is not enough, if we want to really kick on we need 15 prem goals from all 3 of the front men, currently only Richalison looks like getting anywhere near that number.

If we buy a goal scoring forward who can hit in or around the 20 mark, then get Richalison and Lookman or another (a future signing) to get close to 30 between them, add 10/15 more from Sigardson then we may compete for the top 4 places.

Top 4 sides have wide men with goals, city have Sterling and Sane. Chelsea have Hazard with William or Pedro, the shite have Mane and Salah, and Spurs have Son and Erricson.

Hand on heart can you see Walcott replicating there numbers ?

I honestly can't, he's had loads of game time under Silva and not done enough, if anything he's missed huge chances in big games.

Onto McCarthy and he's a player that when fit has energy and power, plus a lot of heart. He's a player I have always liked, I believe he gives his all, but he's limited in terms of goalscoring, creating chances and picking forward passes. When even fully fit can you see him taking Gana's place ? Sigardson's place ?? Gomes place ???

I believe McCarthy has been a good player for us, I just think his injuries may have finished his Everton career and he will want to play football. I don't believe he will be lined up for many games in our team. Also McCarthy getting games will slow the progress of Davies and Beningami, this is something we can't allow from a lad who isn't going to get into the first team but takes first team wages.

Another reason I have no qualms about moving these lads on is that Silva and Brand have managed to recruit excellently this season, so with these squad places and wages avaialble I'd be confident that the management will again recruit and better the squad.

Of course, tribalism remains but it seems to me, as an Evertonian first and foremost, that the loans I suggested would be good for OUR club. What are your reasons for your antipathy to such a move?

Things have changed, Jamie, and if I thought they hadn't I would be endorsing your post.

Digne is struggling, like Baines did at times, not because he's a bad player but because the team as a whole is struggling.

McCarthy is essential to the team if Gueye is injured and I can't believe Davies was asked to play in the Gueye role on Sunday.

On another note, before our beloved Seamus is dropped and eventually sold, there's a brilliant write-up on him in last Sunday's Irish Mail on Sunday. I can't seem to find it online to post the link and I'm also aware that we're near saturation point on the lavishing of praise on the Killybegs man, but he is on the wane and I think it's worth reminding ourselves of the man as well as the player.

If people think McCarthy's the answer, I really would like to know what the question is. He's an average hard-working water-carrier at best who also happens to be incredibly injury-prone. We should have sold him to Celtic when we had the chance a couple of years ago.

Sorry, but he's another one who should have been shown the door a while back. Add the likes of Besic, Niasse and half-a-dozen more to the list. Jagielka has been a great servant but I'm glad he only has this season left on his contract; otherwise, he'd still be here next season. His Premier League career was done before this season.

Still a lot of deadwood drifting at the club; hopefully, a few move on in January to free up space on the wage bill for new faces.