Ranking Everton’s 21 weirdest signings of the Premier League era

Friday, 18 January, 2019 75comments  |  Jump to last

As one of only a handful of ever-present teams in the Premier League since 1992, Everton have had plenty of time to get up to all sorts of transfer nonsense.

Their nonsense has much more of an American flavour than the nonsense put forward by other clubs, but there's definitely no less weirdness.

This is not the place to come for signings which make sense in retrospect, or signings which made sense but turned out to be rubbish. In reverse order from the Planet Football article, here are the 21 Everton signings that were, for one reason or another, were just weird [with links added here for reference to ToffeeWeb's individual player profiles (bar one), which will open in separate browser windows]…

21. Per Krøldrup
20. Anderson da Silva
19. Leandro Rodriguez
18. Eddy Bosnar
17. Samuel Eto'o
16. Marcus Hahnemann
15. Stefan Wessels
14. Rodrigo
13. Paul Gascoigne
12. David Ginola
11 Anton Peterlin
10. Cody Arnoux
9. Lacina Traoré
8. Ibrahim Said
7. David Unsworth
6. Jose Baxter
5. Alex Nyarko
4. Espen Baardsen
3. Mark Hughes
2. Li Wei Feng
1. Predrag 'Preki' Radosavljević

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Tony Hogan
1 Posted 18/01/2019 at 15:24:16

I found this link timely regarding all the commenting on the quality of Everton's signings.

If nothing else, it will evoke some horror memories...

Danny Broderick
2 Posted 18/01/2019 at 18:35:38
I’d get Unsie and Samuel Etoo off that list straightaway. Anthony Gardner on loan was a strange one. I also found it strange bringing Jeffers back when he was clearly finished in the top flight. We then never played him. 35 year old Carlo Nash was another strange one.

Someone recently gave me a signed team photo from the Walter Smith era once the likes of Collins and Dacourt has been sold. It’s the stuff of nightmares. Among others, there was Nyarko, Alec Cleland, Mark Pembridge, Alexandersson, Joe Max Moore, the keepers were Simonsen and Paul Gerrard.

We’ve had a lot of shite to be fair!

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
3 Posted 18/01/2019 at 18:43:03
Thanks for flagging this one up to us, Tony. There have been some really weird ones over the years...

I agree, Danny, I was surprised to see Unsie on the list but he's only there because of the odd circumstances of that one transfer fiasco which occupied maybe one month of his otherwise very solid Everton career spanning 20 or 30 years man and boy.

Good calls on Gardner and Nash. Odd-ball stand-in goalies seem to be a recurring trend...

I can't believe they missed Júnior who was with us for an incredible four years spread over five seasons and played just half of one game... Arrrgh!!!

Jim Bennings
4 Posted 18/01/2019 at 19:23:00
I don’t know if I could do it in a good order like that but I probably could think of 21 bizarre signings that we have made.

1) Lacina Traore
2) Guilleme Plessis
3) Eddy Bosnar
4) Sander Westerveld
5) Espen Baardsen
6) Ian Durrant
7) Marc Hottiger
8) Peter Beagrie (1998 version)
9) Peter Dean
10) Ibrahim Said
11) Anthony Gardner
12) Brett Angel
13) Li Weifeng
14) Mark Hughes
15) David Ginola
16) Anderson Da Silva
17) Henry Onyekuru

18) Stefan Wessels

19) James McFadden (2012 version)

20) Alessandro Pistone (2 months after his initial release)

21) Alex Nyarko

Just my list of the weird and not so easy to work our signings, could have listed a million more let’s be honest.

James Morgan
5 Posted 18/01/2019 at 19:36:39
Segundo Castillo. Patrizio Pascucci
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 18/01/2019 at 19:42:53
Could probably add the likes of David Burrows to the list aswell!

There’s been many a weird signing.

John Pierce
7 Posted 18/01/2019 at 20:21:15
Worst five a side team ever

Carlo Nash. Terry Phelan. Idan Tal. Gareth Farrelly. Brett Angell.

Mike Jones
8 Posted 18/01/2019 at 20:36:36
Castillo wasn’t too bad if I recollect or am I in a haze?
Will Mabon
9 Posted 18/01/2019 at 20:47:20
Cold shiver stuff, don't think I can join in.
Alan McGuffog
10 Posted 18/01/2019 at 20:51:40
Pat Jennings?
Jim Bennings
11 Posted 18/01/2019 at 20:56:42
John 7

I quite liked Terry Phelan.

Brought in after the long term injury to Hinchcliffe I thought he did a good job for us Terry and if memory serves me right I recall he became a bit of a fans' favourite early in 1997.

John Hughes
12 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:01:31
Pat Jennings was pre Premier League – late eighties? What about Claus Thomsen and Kenny Samson?
Brian Williams
13 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:08:01
Jennings was '86. Never made an appearance though!
Jim Bennings
14 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:12:28
Dear me, Claus Thomsen – remember him?

Gareth Farrelly, I know he scored that goal against Coventry but my god, talk about shovel-foot shot.

I actually thought some players in the '90s got unfair criticism and another who was probably better appreciated outside Everton was Earl Barrett, a good solid full-back on his day but came in for stick.

Mitch Ward and Carl Tiler were just “Why?” signings too.

Bakayoko was a nightmare and failed dismally.

Madar was all about the Kop End sitter; despite doing some other decent things, that's the one abiding memory I have of him.

Remember John Spencer?

John O'Kane?

We have made some shite signings over the years, we have.

Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:22:34
Claus Thomsen and Gareth Farrelly were the centre-midfield duo the night we drew 1-1 at Anfield. How did we achieve that? Those two must have been the weakest and slowest midfield pairing ever to turn out for us.

Joe Royle gave Claus an excellent contract... God only knows why, Joe said he'd had his eye on Thomsen for the previous two years, that eye was definitely Joe's weak spot: whatever happened to Claus?

Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:34:23
Any such list simply must include Denis Stracqualursi. Not just a strange player, but strange-looking – walking proof of surviving Neanderthal genetics in modern humans. Loved the guy, but he must have had trouble getting a cab to stop for him late at night.

Odd to see Rhino on the list – he had some very good seasons.

And Jim's list includes Onyekuru, which I would call a premature verdict.

Claus Thomsen – OG in the Derby, right? Per Wikipedia, he went back to Denmark, then on to Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga.

Tommy Carter
17 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:44:48
The Summer of 1997 saw the arrival of some truly awful players. Just awful.

Paul Holmes was a pretty terrible buy.

Gary Rowett was also a strange one although he did oka elsewhere.

More recently, Senderos came and went.

Tommy Carter
18 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:49:26
Around 2000-01 I was disappointed that Linderoth or Stephen Hughes didn't really perform for us. I had high hopes for them both.

I also had high hopes for Paul Gerrard who was also terrible.

Anthony Murphy
19 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:55:33
Kenny Sampson.
Don Alexander
20 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:57:58
Just wondering who in the boardroom was in charge of transfers throughout our time in the Premier League, Anyone know?
Martin Nicholls
21 Posted 18/01/2019 at 21:59:52
Stephan Rehn – performed for everyone he played for except us!
Jon Bentley
23 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:01:28
Stefan Rehn & Ray Atteveld anyone?

Danny Williamson

Peter Gorman
24 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:03:16
Hard to argue with that list but many of them like Peterlin and Bosnar were not signed with the first team in mind, more like a very extended trial or a favour of some kind to aid their development (like Eric Dier).

Still, signing players you have no intention of playing could happily be called weird indeed.

Does the signing of not-very-good, not-very-needed Klaassen count as weird in hindsight?

Jim Bennings
25 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:04:02
Mike 16

Onyekuru makes it because it’s just become a plain weird move, he’s our player and has been for some time but shows no sign of ever being able to play for us.

Ray Roche
26 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:05:25

CoCo the Clown?

Jon Bentley
27 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:05:38
Just beat me to it, Martin. 😁
Jim Bennings
28 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:11:15
Apostolis Vellios.

Joao Silva

Fransico Junior

Magaye Gueye

Lars Jacobson

Tommy Johnson (bet everyone forgot about him in 1999)

Jim Bennings
29 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:14:01
Brazilian Jo?

The most in-Brazilian of Brazilians ever.


We must be the only club to have signed two South American cart-horses.

Anthony Murphy
30 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:18:45
Reading this got me racking my brain to remember how I (and my mates) reacted to signing players that raised eyebrows. I know there's a difference of opinion here, but if the criteria is wierd – not shit or short-lived – then for me it's Eto'o. The most unexpected and un-Everton-like signing for me.
Chris Lyons
31 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:30:50
Vinny Samways has got to be on the list!!
Paul Birmingham
32 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:32:02
That's quite a collection of ale houseplayers... and in some aspects, it's a habit that never was lost.

Marcel Brands will never let this happen again, hopefully!

Paul Hewitt
33 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:40:08
Claus Thomsen was the worst ever. Plus he was earning £10k a week back then.
Colin Glassar
34 Posted 18/01/2019 at 22:50:30
Phil Neville - Total embarrassment.
Bill Gienapp
36 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:03:28
Eto'o always seemed like a classic case of financially-limited-club-tries-to-make-a-splash-by-signing-big-name-star-past-his-prime / mercenary-looking-for-an-end-of-career-payday marriage of convenience.

Surprisingly, it paid actual dividends on the pitch, it was in the dressing room where things supposedly went sour.

Andy Crooks
37 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:12:32

Only overshadowed by someone thinking that Relegation Roberto was fit to manage our club.

And then, someone thinking that the name Everton should ever, ever, ever be in the same sentence as Sam Allardyce. The darkest days in our history.

Ste Traverse
38 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:30:51
Simon Davies was one for me.

Cost us £4.5m in 2005 which was a fair amount in those days, particulary for this club back then, and he did absolutely nothing here.

Always looked sweating whenever a camera panned on him but I never knew why as he was totally anonymous in every game he played for us. I recall a crescendo of boos coming his way when he was subbed in one game (I think against West Brom).

He got completely hammered on phone-ins throughout his time here which wound up his chief apologist, Barry Horne, then of Radio City.

Fuck knows why Moyes bought him. He was simply awful and really was a weird signing considering we'd just finished 4th and were hoping for a Champions League campaign. Davies was never going to get us there. Surely we could have attracted better players than him at the time??

Steve Ferns
39 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:31:53
The list has a load of names on it that shouldn't be there and missed a load that should. I nominate Royston Drenthe.

Nayarko wasn't an odd signing, he came as a very good player from the French league. He had a few very good games for us before his head went. The guy clearly had problems, but they don't detract from the actual talent he had and the glimpses he showed of it.

Drenthe was a failure for all the reasons that were evident to anyone who knew about him before he came. He was a bad boy with a bad attitude. Moyes didn't do any homework there at all. You'd have thought he'd learn his lesson after buying the similarly washed-up Van der Meyde.

Moyes's worst signing was Krøldrup. How you can be a centre-back, and sign a centre-back who can't head the ball – I don't know. Surely you'd want to know he could defend set pieces well and would have asked for the tapes on that too. Even if you had no reason to question his heading ability.

That time Moyes was throwing the ball in the air to him like a dad to a 5-year-old was one of the biggest "What The Fuck?" moments in Everton history (Premier League era at least).

Steve Ferns
40 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:38:34
Ste, I remember Etherington and Davies at Peterborough, they were brilliant. Davies then went to Spurs where he was erratic, but again, on his day, he was very good.

We signed him because he could be very good. Sure, it very worked out, and you might consider him a flop, but he was not an odd signing.

John Pierce
41 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:47:30
Niclas Alexandersson... the king of over promise and he never delivered.
Andrew Ellams
42 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:49:30
Tony Thomas, Michael Madar, Matteo Ferrari, Stephen Hughes, Jesper Blomqvist and John O'Kane to name but a few. We aren't great in this department, are we?
Ed Fitzgerald
43 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:50:55
As grim as many of those Premier League signings are... I'm still scarred for life by the very short career at Everton of Glen Keeley.
Ste Traverse
44 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:51:08
Steve #40,

I can't agree, mate, I thought he was a very strange acquisition. He never really stood out at Tottenham for me and we already had better players at the club at the time who played in the positions he played in.

He was totally ineffective in the centre of midfield and didn't have any pace or trickery to play out wide, and he couldn't tackle a Sunday dinner.

He was quickly surplus to requirements and that's why Davies was shipped out within 18 months.

Jim Bennings
45 Posted 18/01/2019 at 23:52:35
Have we ever had a success story from signing a player from the French league?

I can only ever think of Dacourt in 1998 and it's up for debate whether he was a true success at Everton after spending one (very ill-disciplined) year with us.

Moyes worst ever year was 2005 in the transfer market.

What promised Scott Parker, Craig Bellamy amongst others, delivered Per Krøldrup, Simon Davies, Shandy Van der Meyde and a few other washed-up players.

Kase Chow
46 Posted 18/01/2019 at 00:02:12
John #7

Sadly Gareth Farrelly is a ‘hero’ to me due to his last day goal (against Coventry?)

We were struggling to score goals but needed to score to stay up and he scored a peace. It effectively kept us up (despite a howler from Steve Simeonson in Goal)

Yes, a lot of crap has worn the Royal Blue and you can understand why fans here are impatient

Jim #29

That made me laugh!

(And it’s probably true!!)

Ian Pilkington
47 Posted 19/01/2019 at 00:35:50
Jesper Blomquist stands out as one of the worst performers I can ever remember, with John Spencer not far behind. Both had decent careers but were hopeless playing for us.

Mark Pembridge and Niklas Alexandersson don't deserve to be on the list, they were above average during a dismal era.

Ian Durrant, who arrived on loan from Rangers with Duncan Ferguson, was a very good midfielder recovering from a serious injury and certainly shouldn't be included.

Gazza was of course way past his best, but he nevertheless provided some good entertainment and I fondly remember the only goal he scored for us, at Bolton.

Peter Gorman
48 Posted 19/01/2019 at 01:06:49
Here's one I found very weird: Manny Fernandes on loan in 2008.

After an impressive loan spell the previous year, fans were clamouring to sign him up but through a combination of Davey dithering and the player just completely dicking us around, he signed for Valencia that summer.

Making no impression there, we got him back on loan for the final dozen games of the next season. Plain weird.

Also generally weird was signing Tommy Hitzlsperger for a few games, a couple of years after it was clear he was finished at the top level. I think he was a free agent at the time and not terrible at all but weird of the club to take such a short term punt for no apparent reason.

Peter Gorman
49 Posted 19/01/2019 at 01:21:37
In 1997, the British press all reported an 'exclusive' that Everton had swooped to sign two highly promising youngsters. Ultimately, with Howard Kendall coming in for his third spell, the deals were quietly dropped and the two were never heard of again... until.

One is a former winger of Roma and the other is currently assistant manager at AC Milan. Pop quiz: who remembers the story and their names?

Matt Woods
50 Posted 19/01/2019 at 03:18:07
Sandy Andy???
Ajay Gopal
51 Posted 19/01/2019 at 03:44:29
I give you

Shani Tarashaj (the Swiss wonderkid)
Araz Abdullayev (the Armenian wonderkid)

Terence Leong
52 Posted 19/01/2019 at 07:18:33
Per Krøldrup actually fairly decently before and after Everton, both times in Serie A. Was injured, and then thrown into the team that got hammered by Villa 4-0.

Hughes, Gazza and Ginola were on their final pay cheques.
Though in the season just before Moyes took over, I recall that Gazza was showing flashes of brilliance (at least one match winning goal) over a stretch of games. and it was comical, that opposition were exchanging their shirts with him, to the point that the club had to put a stop with him.
When Moyes came in, Gazza was shown the door.

Rodrigo was actually showing promise, until he was badly injured. He was on loan, so by the time he recovered, the loan period was over.

Neil Cremin
53 Posted 19/01/2019 at 07:53:55
Only scanned but had to go a long way down the thread to find Van der Mayde. Earned a lot of money warming up on the side line without ever having to earn his keep. Also I didnt notice another embarrassment Richard Wright famous for getting injured in warm ups prior to major games.
Robert Leigh
54 Posted 19/01/2019 at 08:04:36
I second the Philip Senderos shout - Jesus he was bad.

Lucas Neill was also an odd one, he was with us from September to January on a free til we sold him for about £500k. Remember he played in the 3-3 at Chelsea with Heitinga at centre half.

Not saying he was bad, but a weird signing!

Ian Bennett
55 Posted 19/01/2019 at 08:36:37
Mike Milligan
Neil McDonald
Ray Atteveld
Pat Nevin
Peter Beagrie
Tony Cottee

It was the beginning of the end to a fabulous team of Heath, Sheedy, Stevens, Steven and Bracewell sadly ☹️. When you're at the top, you need to keep buy the best. United made a dynasty of it since, we rummaged around in the bargain bin.

Justin Doone
56 Posted 19/01/2019 at 08:52:46
Weird maybe, but Gazza and Ginola although past their prime were two of the most talented players to have played for us in the Premier league era.

Gazza ran the midfield on a few occasions without being able to actually run and if Ginola could have learnt to cross the ball more and not showboat, same goes for Beagrie, we could actually have done something good.

But that was a prime example of Everton living in dream land. Oh those were dark days..

Walter Smith. No plan, no money, no team. Just waiting for the magic to simply happen, gambling on a few old men.

Still 10 times more enter than last season.

Jim Bennings
57 Posted 19/01/2019 at 09:45:42

I was one of those who was genuinely excited when we signed Gazza, at 33 years of age I thought we could have got at least one more glorious years from him.

In hindsight the one we missed out on the gem at 36 years young Gary McCallister, who went to Liverpool and well we know how that went.

Ginola looked amazing on his debut against Arsenal in February 2002, I recall he hit the post with a trademark free kick and reigned in quite a few shots but it soon went downhill.

Anthony Murphy
58 Posted 19/01/2019 at 10:25:16
A wierd signing (although never played for the first team) was David Henen. All that nonsense with Olympiakos signing him on our behalf and then loaning him straight to us etc. The lengths we went to made me think at the time we had unearthed a gem, but the lad was a dud who ended up with Fleetwood Town.
Alan J Thompson
59 Posted 19/01/2019 at 10:30:09
One for the older members; the new George Best, I give you Martin Murray.
Phil Greenough
60 Posted 19/01/2019 at 10:46:05
What about Earl Barrett, Joe Royle's love child. He must have been, for all the games he got.
Jim Bennings
61 Posted 19/01/2019 at 12:22:19
David Henen, I’d forgotten all about him.

Have we ever signed one of these “wonderkids” from abroad and they actually proved any better than a lad playing on the Sunday league pitches?

Andrew Ellams
62 Posted 19/01/2019 at 12:37:34
Scott Spencer. Last known playing for Hyde United
Jay Wood

63 Posted 19/01/2019 at 13:09:23
Jeez... I've just quickly scanned this thread.

I'm glad I didn't see it last night before turning in: it would have given me a sleepless night!

I think there is a huge difference between the topic of the post – 'weird' signings – as to simply recalling bad players we've had down the years.

For example, David Unsworth is on the list and he was excellent in his two spells with us. He makes the list of 'weird' signings because of the weirdness of his transfer out of WHU to Villa then – within days – transferring back to Everton from Villa without, I think, having as much as a training session with the Villains.

He certainly never played for them...

Peter Gorman
64 Posted 19/01/2019 at 13:24:25
The weirdest signing I've ever seen is Andrei Kanchelskis. One of the most lethal and skillful wingers in the league signing for Joe Royle's dogs of war.

An Interviewer once asked him if the rumours were true that he ate caviar every day for breakfast, Kanchelskis confirmed that he did.

Joe Royle quipped: "He probably means Special K".

David Hallwood
65 Posted 19/01/2019 at 14:13:27
Dissociative amnesia is the medical term for blocking out traumatic events. I must be suffering from it because I can't remember half of the players on the list.

I do however remember Claus Thomson who I thought was a good all-rounder; he couldn't defend, attack, pass, shoot, dribble, head, he was all round shite.

Paul Birmingham
66 Posted 19/01/2019 at 14:25:24
Paul Holmes was another one from the premier league era.
It’s uncanny how EFC has, was and still is a magnet for average and below average and rank poor players.

As a club we didn’t have the money that we do now, which puts in perspective the ott fees we have paid the last 4 years for a number of players who’ve been very poor.

Hopefully MB will resolve this issue and restore fortune on the pitch.

Paul Hughes
67 Posted 19/01/2019 at 18:23:17
I guess, if the weirdness decribes the actual transfer process, then Rhino deserves to be on this list. Otherwise he shouldn't be in any way associated with the rest of the dross.
Danny Baily
68 Posted 19/01/2019 at 22:25:48
Dennis Stracqualursi?
Rob Dolby
69 Posted 20/01/2019 at 11:27:24
One thing is for sure: we keep making the same mistakes. Klaassen, Sandro, Niasse, Mina (then playing Zouma)...

This thread has given me nightmares. I had forgotten about most of them.

Stefan Rehn coming on as a sub then getting subbed. John Hills falling over the ball with his very first touch, never recovered.

Niasse sauntering on against West Ham Utd with us winning then walking off after us getting beaten.

The older players on that list were all class in their day – just not with us.

Paul Swan
70 Posted 20/01/2019 at 15:10:06
Marco Silva?
Clive Rogers
72 Posted 22/01/2019 at 19:27:43
The way they are playing, we might be looking back in 20 years with Mina, Richarlison and Gomes on the list.
Frank Kearns
73 Posted 22/01/2019 at 21:43:01
Not a lot changed really; crap results from panic buyings... but players and agents are quids in – they just have a lot more savvy these days.

A weekly salary (net of income tax and National Insurance payments – the club pays these), appearance fees for being selected to play, bonus for scoring, image rights, agent's fees paid by signing club...

No wonder they can't be arsed on a Saturday afternoon – nobody told them they had earn it!!!

Football – it's fucked.

Peter Fearon
74 Posted 23/01/2019 at 15:17:38
Gazza has to rank as the most misguided signing in the club 's history although, admittedly, he is one among many during our beloved club's seemingly endless spiral into mediocrity.

I had a particular dislike for Abel Xavier who justified my distaste when he signed for the Dark Side. Likewise Nick Barmby. I am surprised to see Pat Nevin and Tony Cottee on some fans' lists, however. Both were great players on their day. Most of the signings made under the mercifully short-lived Koeman regime could be included on that list.

Jesper Blomqvist and David Ginola were also horrendous signings despite being great players at one time because the club was giving "one last season" pensions to almost anyone with a pulse and their own boots. It was the era of:

"What time is the match?"
"What time can you get here?"
"If I get there at 2.30 will I get in?"
"Get here that early you'll get a game!"

Now that we are flush with cash those dark days should be over – but apparently not yet.

Kieran Kinsella
75 Posted 23/01/2019 at 15:26:18
Peter Fearon

I think Gazza was always going to be a gamble drien by desperation. It worked out with Gough, less so with Gazza, not at all with Ginola but I don't think it was a weird signing, just the typical kind of move a struggling club makes.

Richard Jones
76 Posted 25/01/2019 at 23:39:02
Sorry, Jim (#14) – Earl Barrett was useless, I think we used to call him The Fireman on account of him putting everything out!

Mick Madar I thought helped us out with some important goals; Stephen Davies sticks in the mind as he was promoted as a £4.5 million signing at the time, if my memory serves me right, and, when he left, it turned out he was on loan!

I remember we re-signed Pistone after we let him go, because we had a full-back crisis going into the Champions League Qualifier with Villarreal. If my memory serves me right, he lasted about 10 minutes of the first leg before getting injured, meaning Kilbane had to deputise for him for the 2nd leg. Only Everton!

Simon Crosbie
77 Posted 16/02/2019 at 23:31:10
The expensive signing of Davy Klaassen says so much about the current state of the club. It was an embarrassing display of poor judgement. He was an industrious and serviceable player in an inferior league but not up to the standard required for Premier League.
Paul Hewitt
78 Posted 16/02/2019 at 23:41:43
How many games do you need to play to be called a failure?

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