Report: Palace express interest in Tosun

Thursday, 24 January, 2019 52comments  |  Jump to last
Crystal Palace could make a move to try and sign Cenk Tosun from Everton on loan for the rest of the season, according to a report.

The BBC suggest that the Turkish striker has emerged as a target for Eagles boss Roy Hodgson who is keen to add firepower to his squad before the transfer window closes at the end of the month.

Tosun, who signed for the Blues a year ago in a deal variously reported as being worth between £21m and and £27m, has struggled to hold down a first-team place at Everton after arriving from Besiktas.

He has fallen below Dominic Calvert-Lewin in the pecking order and it has been said this month that the Blues would be open to offers for him.

Having already loaned Oumar Niasse to Cardiff, however, Marco Silva could be reluctant to let another striker leave on a temporary basis; rather a permanent deal would free up cash for he and Marcel Brands to bring in a replacement.

 

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John Malone
1 Posted 24/01/2019 at 21:54:07
As long we can get a better option in, let him go – he's hardly played under Silva anyway.
Kieran Kinsella
2 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:01:08
Great deal. Our striking options are further reduced while his value depreciates as his contract is run down, whilst we no doubt subsidize his wages to play for a team barely below us in the table.

I cannot imagine Everton falling for this.

Minik Hansen
3 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:01:28
BBC reporting...

I didn't expect any serious business this time around.

Exciting days ahead.

Les Moorcroft
4 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:04:03
If so, let's hope it's not last minute. Then we don't have time to replace him. But this is Everton. COYB.
Jamie Crowley
5 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:06:23
Definitely sell / loan him. Give Calvert-Lewin a run.

Seems a nice guy and I've never seen him "coast" or not give effort. But he doesn't factor in Sliva's plans.

We'll do just fine for half a season or so with Calvert-Lewin up top, and Richarlison an option up there as well.

That's assuming we don't buy another striker. But if we do, I pray it's not a January "panic" buy. Sign quality. I'd prefer to see us sell Tosun and not replace, rather than sell and sign someone who can't come in and contribute almost immediately.

In Brands We Trust.

Christy Ring
6 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:06:45
I'd have no problem with a straight swap for Zaha.
Jamie Crowley
7 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:09:04
Ya, and 50 million more £s, Christy!

Where would Zaha play? He plays wide left. Keep Richarlison up top and Calvert-Lewin relegated to a sub role?

Richard Reeves
8 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:09:51
We've got the FA Cup and Liverpool to derail. Keep him until the summer.
Phil Sammon
9 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:14:25
Keep him.

He's one of the players that guarantees you 100% effort. Centre-forward at Everton is a thankless task lately. Silva has far more pressing problems to address.

Chris Jones [NZ]
10 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:19:21
Phil – quite literally!
Neil Lawson
11 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:20:49
Fraser Hornby on the subs bench in Febreuary?

Why not?

Anthony Murphy
12 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:32:58
We can't let him go without a replacement. If either Richarlison or Calvert-Lewin picked up a long-term injury, we would be screwed.

What I would add is – if we allow a few out on loan and bring no one in, then we really must show patience with Silva. Only his second transfer window and not able to improve the team. I have no problem with that so long as he's given a chance in the summer.

Tony Marsh
13 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:38:26
Are there any players at EFC that we could possibly sell? I am not asking for anything ridiculous, like a profit or even money back on a sale, but just a sale... One poxy sale for old times sake. Was Romelu Lukaku the last player the club received any money for?

It shows what a complete shitshow our club now is under Kenwright and Moshiri. Manager after manager allowed to spend huge sums of money on players and salaries yet we can never recoup a penny on any of them. We can't give our players away, never mind cash them in. What the fuck is going on? How much would Sigurdsson fetch these days if put on the market?

Is Richarlison worth £20 million now, from £45 million, or would he be a loan-type player these days?

Do we have any players at all in our squad that are saleable assets? Are PSG really daft enough to pay £30 large for Idrisa Gana Gueye??

I don't know wether to laugh or cry when fans post our wage bill and the names of our players simultaneously. Soul-destroying doesn't come into it... How on Earth was this allowed to happen? It's easy for us all to play Football Manager but some dope is responsible for signing off on these terrible deals at Everton, aren't they?

I only hope now for EFC to rid itself of all the deadwood is to do a special offer: You buy one, you get on free. Even then, there won't be many takers...

Mike Jones
14 Posted 24/01/2019 at 22:38:48
Yes, please. Leave!
Brian Williams
15 Posted 24/01/2019 at 23:00:27
Sell only if we get £15M for him – I'd be well pleased, and very surprised!
Mike Jones
16 Posted 25/01/2019 at 00:15:30
He's shite – come on, we all know it. Just like the guy who went to Cardiff... and the other plenty we have on loan.

I want to judge Brands in three years... just as we get ready for the new stadium. There is an awful lot of shite to get rid of...

Dare I say it, Klopp has taken 3 years to make ‘them‘ an attractive proposition. I'm giving it until 2021-22 but, unlike some posters, I don't see the benefit in keeping players like this – just because he's better than anything else we have at present.

We aren't being relegated and we aren't going to Europe either. So ditch as much shit as we can now and learn from our mistakes, please.

By the way; I'm not arsed if Sílva stays or goes – Brands is the player here.

Ben Howard
18 Posted 25/01/2019 at 02:01:21
Tony Marsh, the essence of your rant I couldn't disagree with.

Until you suggested that Richarlison has halved his value since coming here! He's one of few shining lights currently plying his trade, currently playing out of position, who is the envy of many teams. Let's try to be constructive in our criticism and a little less sensational.

Fran Mitchell
19 Posted 25/01/2019 at 02:17:49
The fact the we are loaning so many players is testament to just how woeful our recruitment has been. Moshiri must be livid, and of course he won't put in another penny.

We over-spend on average players, pay them big wages. As a result, we need them off the books. All clubs know we're desperate to get them out, any means necessary, so they loan.

Besic, Bolasie, Tosun, Schneiderlin, Niasse, Martina, Williams, McCarthy are all players we should sell or have sold for nominal fees at least, but any interested club knows they can get 'em for free and subsidised wages, so why pay?

The result is we can't shift any of the dead wood.

Darren Hind
20 Posted 25/01/2019 at 04:34:20
Tosun is like the rest of our forwards. Starved of service.

If he was missing loads of sitters, I would condemn him, but strikers are judged on the amount of goals they score and, to do that, they need service.

That said, I couldn't agree more with Tony Marsh. Is there another club in world football who buys so consistently badly? We've done it for fucking years.

Take the transfer fees and wages of Willams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Pickford, Klaassen, Keane, Sigurdsson, Vlasic, Tosun, Walcott, Mina and Richarlison. That's approaching Five Hundred Million Quid — right there... and we are still needing to field three loanees in virtually every single match.

Jerome Shields
21 Posted 25/01/2019 at 05:38:30
Looking a bargain or loan.
Ian Hollingworth
22 Posted 25/01/2019 at 07:22:02
Tony @ 13, unfortunately, you are absolutely spot on. What a shambles.

I am not a Tosun fan but, if we are not going to buy a top quality striker, then I don't see the point of loaning him out right now.

We need to fix a lot of things to allow any striker to make that much difference at Everton.

We do, however, need to get our top coach coaching the players we have better.

Andrew Wilkinson
23 Posted 25/01/2019 at 08:08:51
Yes, move him on please. Let's get the squad lean, work it hard, decide who to keep, and build again in the summer. Silva had a ridiculous large squad full of deadwood. Clear out before we buy. Silva & Brands need at least 2 years to turn this club around.

Patience and belief, please.

Brian Murray
24 Posted 25/01/2019 at 08:19:00
Andrew.

You say trim and keep the squad lean but, if Vlasic is to be believed and they are offered fry-ups every day, it's no wonder we are always half-a-yard behind even the likes of Bournemouth. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Tony Everan
25 Posted 25/01/2019 at 10:26:37
Don't sell him unless we have a replacement lined up that is better for us.

Tosun has ability as a finisher but has not fitted in to Silva's systems of play, or been given any real run in the team.

He could well bang in a good few goals for Palace working with Zaha up front; it's a gamble for them but not a forlorn one.

Simon Smith
26 Posted 25/01/2019 at 10:38:13
He's certainly never going to be Silva's first choice so we might as well get him in the shop window.

Sell... loan... whatever.

Bobby Mallon
27 Posted 25/01/2019 at 11:30:17
Fraser Hornby.
Paul Cherrington
28 Posted 25/01/2019 at 12:23:46
This would be a crazy move in our current situation. With Niasse out on loan already, we are not exactly overflowing with experienced strikers.

I also think that Tosun is treated harshly by many fans and the current manager. He is a pretty good player for me - hard working, good finisher, knows how to play up front and knows where the goal is. I agree, he is not lightning quick but he has enough pace to be effective.

It's certainly a better option than playing a young winger up front who is clearly not suited to it. Calvert-Lewin may play before Tosun if we change things but what if he gets injured?

Daniel A Johnson
29 Posted 25/01/2019 at 12:51:24
Send the deadwood out on loan — but only for 80-100% of the wages.
Steavey Buckley
30 Posted 25/01/2019 at 13:00:34
The evidence of players not good enough to play for Everton is that they are only attracting clubs to loan them for a short period of time, who are only taking a chance on them, by paying for all or some of their wages.
Phil Sammon
31 Posted 25/01/2019 at 13:44:52
I'd listen to offers for Walcott if anyone is interested. He seems to get away without much criticism despite being perennially hopeless. We could probably get what we paid for him if other clubs are as daft as we are.
Charles McCann
32 Posted 25/01/2019 at 14:01:52
I totally agree, Phil. Unless Walcott could make it as a striker, which is doubtful, I'd happily see him leave. He hasn't got a good brain for football always taking the wrong option, taking too much out of the ball and ending up losing possession. Not sure any other club would be as daft as us, though. :(
Joe McMahon
33 Posted 25/01/2019 at 14:17:41
Christy, neither would I, but I suspect Palace would not entertain your idea. It does make you wonder after millions being spent, how has it come to this.

Still, Everton in the Community are dishing out free hugs!

Jon Withey
34 Posted 25/01/2019 at 15:38:48
Palace are only 8 points behind us – should we really loan to a rival ? We'd be doing them a favour – we really need to be more hard-nosed – otherwise we are devaluing our own players.

I still think we should have forced a sale on Niasse.

If they want to buy him fair enough if we have a replacement.

Kieran Kinsella
35 Posted 25/01/2019 at 15:40:03
Neil 11, Bobby 27

Fraser Hornby? Just rattling off the name of an untried youngster doesn't mean we have a striking solution.

Firstly, Hornby hasn't exactly lit up the U23s since he made his first-team debut over a year ago. Secondly, even if he had, it doesn't mean he is the answer.

Liam Walsh was superman for the U23s and didn't make it. Kieran Agard was "Player of the Year" for them – and then released on a free. David Henen, Phil Jevons, etc etc...

If anything, I would loan Hornby to Palace – if they'll have him! Then, if he proves good enough, we bring him back and bring him into our team. At the moment, he has no value, so if he fails on loan the status quo remains the same, if he does well he goes up in value.

Tosun has value; going on loan means he is closer to the end of his contract, thus worth less. He has also scored goals for us in the Premier League, as opposed to Hornby, Simms, etc who are as yet completely unproven at an adult level of any kind – much less the Premier League.

Mike Connolly
36 Posted 25/01/2019 at 16:38:58
The club is more charitable than EitC. All the players going out on loan. Time to say no loans, you will have to buy.

I know the players' wages are a problem to other clubs. So perhaps the players could take a pay cut, to play first-team football?

However, the alternative is sitting in the Reserves. Most players like the limelight that's why they all say they want to play Champions League.

We are never going to shift these players that go on loan. With no loaning out, a nice safety net would be removed (see Bolasie). Some of our players may take a cut to play for another Premier League team (Palace & Cardiff).

Jon Withey
37 Posted 25/01/2019 at 17:05:53
I'd be very surprised if players took pay cuts.

Reduce the price if necessary, but you want them off the books permanently, surely.

Paul Richards
38 Posted 25/01/2019 at 17:51:00
Mike, think you're spot on with everything in your post (#36)— I see David Prentice has picked up the vibe in the Echo:

This is why Everton will not be buying in this January transfer window

One thing though: the Reserves are no more. I know what you mean but they simply no longer exist. Just the kids in the U23s. The older players on the fringe of the first team could play as up to 3 allowed over-age players but that seems exclusively something they may do for one game only when coming back from injury.

Okay, Brendan Galloway, 24, was an exception... but I think it's been a few months now since he played for them. I reckon Unsie's been told to freeze these guys out in an effort to get them to bug their agents for a move... but not on those juicy wages we're paying!!!

Len Hawkins
39 Posted 25/01/2019 at 18:04:21
Is there a market for woodlice? With all the deadwood, Finch Farm must be overrun with the little bleeders.
Chris Gould
40 Posted 25/01/2019 at 18:18:31
Mike #36,
The likes of Bolasie, Sandro, Tosun have hit the jackpot signing for us. None of them would make half the wages they are on elsewhere. Why would they agree to a permanent move for half the salary? They can go to an unglamorous club like Cardiff or Palace and get paid half as much, or stay with us and make millions. It's very simple, they refuse to move permanently, and so the club have no choice but to allow a loan. This way, the club at least remove part or all of their wages. Sticking them in the reserves would not force them out, and it would mean the club continue to pay all of their wages.
The players on the fat contracts hold all the power, and the club are paying the price for their incompetence.

Brands is obviously trying to flog them but can't find a buyer. We are forced to loan them, even when the club say we won't loan anyone out, we will. As we have shown with Niasse.

Mike Connolly
41 Posted 25/01/2019 at 18:57:39
You're wright Chris, can't argue with you there. A lot has changed. when you were a kid you wanted to play at Wembley score the winner in the final. be on the tv in the papers & not get paid. However if they were brought back to the club, basically to sit on there arse and not having the luxury to play a game on loan Surely that would encourage some of the players to look for a club. Yeh I know in an Ideal world. Money talks these days
Brian Wilkinson
42 Posted 25/01/2019 at 19:58:26
No more loans, cash will do nicely, we are becoming a soft touch for loaning players out, most will return after the summer.

Time to offload, even at a loss, but no more loans.

Simon Dalzell
43 Posted 25/01/2019 at 20:10:42
Could be make or break for Silva. No point digging heels in over the asking price. Accept 15m and get the upgrade in pronto. A good cup run and 7th at stake. Time for decisive actions, though decisive and Everton have been strangers for some time.
Pat Kelly
44 Posted 25/01/2019 at 20:49:20
Everton, the loan arranger
Jason Wilkinson
45 Posted 25/01/2019 at 23:07:04
Quite amusing to read some of your posts, lads. The sad truth is, apart from Gana, the rest of the squad we have would only interest teams that will finish below us in the football pyramid or in lesser leagues such as Greece, Turkey or Holland.

We will most likely finish this season 7th to 12th. That leaves Watford, Wolves, Leicester, West Ham and Bournemouth to compete for our heroes signatures. None of the "Sky six" would touch our failures with a bargepole.

Wolves have their own unique transfer structure. Watford go for more combative types. Leicester and West Ham have better players than we do and Bournemouth don't waste their cash like we do.

Can anyone remember the last player we fought another side to sign? (And won???)

Jason Wilkinson
46 Posted 25/01/2019 at 23:14:25
Update: I wasn't discounting Saints down to Shrewsbury. Just hoping the teams (mentioned in previous post) I would like us to be better than finish this season below us.
Lee Courtliff
47 Posted 25/01/2019 at 23:58:11
What's this about Vlasic and fry ups? Anyone got a link to what he actually said?
Lee Courtliff
48 Posted 26/01/2019 at 00:01:59
Just found it using this magical thing called Google. Give it a try, lads.

I find it hard to believe that we are offering a full English in this day and age. I'm sure it's grilled and not from the local greasy spoon but even so. Doesn't sound very modern day at all.

Simon Dalzell
49 Posted 26/01/2019 at 02:07:52
Bobby #27. Yes, Hornby has many attributes. This FLYING SCOTSMAN has a big ENGINE, TRAINS hard, and TRACKS back well. I believe he's a MODEL professional who never gets above his STATION. I think he could earn us a few POINTS. I would be CHUFFED if we took a SHUNT on him. Err...... punt, sorry.
Wayne Maher
50 Posted 26/01/2019 at 02:40:40
Take Tosun and well give you Bolasie for nothing. Buy one, get one free.
Lenny Kingman
52 Posted 27/01/2019 at 08:41:18
After last night's debacle, maybe hold on to him for a little while!
Sean Randles
54 Posted 27/01/2019 at 18:20:07
He took his goal well last night, as he normally does when presented with a chance – something our midfield has failed to create for him this season. I think he should be given more game time – he works like a dog and might not be the top quality we need... but he is the best we have got.
Paul Cherrington
55 Posted 28/01/2019 at 10:16:03
Tosun showed on Saturday why we should not only keep him but play him too. Simply put, he knows where the goal is and can finish. In our current situation of not scoring enough, he is valuable to have around.

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