Sigurdsson pleased to surpass Gudjohnsen as top Icelandic scorer

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Gylfi Sigurdsson has spoken of his pride at becoming the leading Icelandic goalscorer in Premier League history with his brace against Cardiff on Wednesday evening.

The 29-year-old scored a goal in each half as Everton ended a three-match losing streak by seeing off Cardiff City 3-0 in South Wales, a result that sets the Blues up nicely for Sunday's Merseyside derby.

Sigurdsson surpassed team-mate Richarlison to become Everton's top scorer this season with 12 in all competitions and he also moved two clear of his compatriot and former Bolton and Chelsea striker Eidur Gudjohnson's 55 Premier League goals.

“I knew about it, I'd been waiting to get that,” Sigurdsson said. “I'm very proud. When I was growing up, he (Gudjohnsen) was the one I was watching.

“I wanted to be like him and play in the Premier League. Hopefully he'll give me a text. It's fantastic to have finally gone over him.”

Everton's thoughts now turn to this weekend's clash with Liverpool, one which offers the Blues the chance to not only put a dent in the reds' title hopes but to also make up for their painful loss at Anfield in the reverse fixture in early December.

An error by Jordan Pickford gifted Divock Origi a 96th-minute winner and Sigurdsson was asked if there was extra incentive to beat the arch rivals across the park at a time when they are league leaders by a single point over Manchester City.

“Of course, yes,” Sigurdsson said, “but it doesn't matter where they are in the league.

“You always want to win these games, especially after the disappointing ending to the game the last time we played them.

“To lose a derby game like that, being so close to a good point away from home, was very disappointing. These are the games you are looking forward to before the season starts.”

 

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Derek Knox
1 Posted 28/02/2019 at 06:16:16
I hope he doesn't ease off now before Sunday. I watched the RS v Watford, who they demolished 5-0. We will have to be at our very best for the match with our best team selection.

I know the form book normally goes out of the window in a derby, but we can't afford anything less than 100% effort.

Bob Parrington
2 Posted 28/02/2019 at 07:04:37
We saw two brilliant goals taken by Sigurdsson and followed up with a great move and pass from Gana for Calvert-Lewin to hit home a cracker!

Regardless of what is said about the level of competition, if we can do this to Cardiff, we can do it to others.

If we say, Liverpool did this to Watford and that to Burnley, it means we are allowing them to rule our thoughts. Take the negativity out of the equation!

We should be saying we are good, we can score goals and we'll beet the RS on Sunday. Then we might do so! I'd love us to smash Klopf's sniggering smile to pieces. (That's being polite!)

Trevor Peers
3 Posted 28/02/2019 at 12:03:22
Don't expect too many slaps on the back on here, Siggy, most of the punters rate you as a luxury item, an expensive misfit.

Personally, I think your goals speak for themselves. Well done, son – you're a true star in my eyes. We're lucky to have you.

Paul Cherrington
4 Posted 28/02/2019 at 13:14:01
I would be more inclined to slap him on the back if he hadn't gone missing for most of the season before the last game.

Good goals return from him no doubt this season but we need so much more from him as a creative player in the midfield. Too much time spent going through the motions for me and not enough impact on enough games over the whole 90 minutes to get too excited yet.

Let's see if he puts in the same level of performance for the rest of the campaign – I suspect not, especially when the bigger, tougher games come along.

Christy Ring
5 Posted 28/02/2019 at 13:26:04
Love to see Siggy score the winner in the 93rd minute, and Silva sprinting across the pitch.
Henry Lloyd
6 Posted 28/02/2019 at 13:33:22
Lets not get carried away eh?

It was Cardiff we beat.

Anthony Flack
7 Posted 28/02/2019 at 13:42:33
Trevor, I'm with you – it is nuts to suggest he is a luxury!
Phil Smith
8 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:00:49
He's the only one who looks like scoring for us at the moment. Not a luxury at all; he's necessity.
Steve Ferns
9 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:06:49
Damn website, isn't working properly, so it spared you the long version.

Anyway, Gylfi is too good to be a luxury player and he runs too much as well. A true luxury player, and my favourite all time Everton player, is Anders Limpar.

My problem with Gylfi is that he cost £45m in transfer fees and over £30m in wages, and for that money I expected a bit more, someone who can be more like Christian Erikson. Gylfi is not that, but he is what he is, and that's a very good footballer who scores goals.

Gylfi also does not dominate games, he does not grab the game by the scruff of the neck and make things happen. He does, though, win games out of nothing, with a shot from distance, or an exquisite pass.

I think we need to use the example of Schneiderlin on Tuesday night, and the effect he had on Sigurdsson and Gueye as the blueprint for how to get the best out of Gylfi. If Schneiderlin can be rehabilitated, then great, but regardless we need a top quality holding midfielder who can dictate the game in the way that Gylfi cannot. We can then use that player to put Gylfi into dangerous positions, rather than (wrongly) expecting Gylfi to be the one to do that for others.

Also, it's been about 18 months now, it's about time Gylfi had a song.

John G Davies
10 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:22:31
Steve,

6
8
10?

With Gana as 8?

Kevin Prytherch
11 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:23:38
Off topic but...

Harry Kane has been let off the exact same thing that Richarlison got sent off for. Conspiracy towards the big 6???

Steve Ferns
12 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:32:03
No John,

Schneiderlin holds from the left in the typical position he occupied for most of the 18 months he played, and Gueye is alongside him on the right. The pair can drop deep when under the kosh against Liverpool and form that defensive box of 4 that worked well earlier in the season.

Gueye would have licence to get forwards in attack, and Schniederlin moving central to offer a pass behind the ball and to be ready for transition. Gueye would also be able to try to win the ball quickly in transition if we surrender the ball, which Gueye does brilliantly.

So, no not a 6 or an 8. More a box-to-box midfielder playing from a deep position.

John Keating
13 Posted 28/02/2019 at 14:32:15
Sigurdsson can play as great as anything and score a load of goals on Sunday but, if our centre-halves play as far apart as they did on Tuesday and most games this season, we'll ship more than we score.
John G Davies
14 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:00:51
That's what I proposed in my post, Steve. Gana as an 8 (box to box).

I don't like the rigid 4-2-3-1.

Kase Chow
15 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:10:01
Derek #1

When does form go out of the window when we play that lot?

Apologies but you’ve hit a nerve: I can’t stand trite nonsense that the media put out. And now it’s one of our own ?!?!

We’re usually lower than them in the league and we usually lose to them

In one of the few recent seasons we finished above them, we also beat them

No doubt you’ll find some exceptions to the rule but generally form does NOT go out of the window (I wish it did cos we might then have a darn chance because I’m sick SICK of losing to them)

Please please PLEASE WIN it boys. Please

Jim Bennings
16 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:15:53
People always have the misconception that Sigurdsson should “dominate games” but that’s not what he’s about and never has been.

He’s a goalscoring midfielder, a creative source and his goal return over the past 5 years speaks for itself.

Dominating games needs to be by players in the position deeper like Gana on Tuesday, he took the game to Cardiff and made the midfield his own, that’s a defensive midfielders job not Sigurdsson’s.

Steve Ferns
17 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:17:01
There's different 4-2-3-1s John. Most 4-2-3-1s are viewed as having 2 "holding midfielders". This is wrong. They can have two deep midfielders or they can have two normal midfielders (as in where you expect a central midfielder in a 4-4-2 to be).

If deep, then they don't have to be defensive. if they are then the formation quickly becomes disjointed and you end up with 6 defenders and 4 attackers and no midfield.

The best one we have seen regularly was the one the RS used under Benitez. Xabi Alonso was a world class deep-lying playmaker. He couldn't tackle, but he sat deep and got on the ball and used his excellent range of passing to dictate games. Mascherano played alongside him as a ball winner. He was also a very good passer of the ball, particularly over shorter distances. Then you had Slippy G at the point of the triangle, behind the striker.

In Martinez's best season, we had Barry in the Alonso role and doing it well, whilst also being a better tackler and a better defensive midfielder, but obviously his passing was nowhere near the world class Alonso, despite being very good. McCarthy was good box-to-box and covered a lot of ground that season and won the ball well, though maybe not quite on the level of Mascherano. Barkley was obviously a poor man's Slippy, but the comparisons were there that season, his breakthrough year.

Schneiderlin is not Alonso. He's quite different. Gueye is not Mascherano. And Sigurdsson is not Gerrard. But those three fill those positions best. And with Bernard coming inside from the wing and getting on the ball, we add some extra creativity that we are lacking.

My preferred formation would be to flip that triangle and have Schneiderlin holding and then Gomes can really showcase his ability in a true number 8 role. Could Sigurdsson do a job as an 8 alongside him? I doubt it, we'd be better with Gueye there and his legs and tackling. We'd require Gomes to burst forwards, like he did when he scored, and showcase that side of his game, little seen for Everton, but very evident earlier in his career.

To accommodate Sigurdsson though, it has to be a 4-2-3-1.

Steve Ferns
18 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:25:43
Jim, it's the job of a traditional number 10, like our old Favourite Juan Roman Riquelme (anyone seen him at JLA recently?). Sigurdsson plays this role, but in a completely different way.

Is it really impossible for Sigurdsson to get on the ball more? When the ball is deep, he doesn't look for it, he's looking for it to go wide and then forwards and then to show for it in the way he did twice against Cardiff.

Is it too much to ask for him to show for a pass earlier, to be more involved in the build up play? He's got the skills to do it, just not the mindset. It's never really been his game, but why not? What's so difficult to get him to drop a bit deeper and get on the ball earlier in a move.

When Everton are struggling, why can't he demand the ball and try to move it around? Sure, he has his back to goal and can't do much from that position, he can only play a backwards or sidewards pass. What he can do from this position though, is to dictate the tempo by hitting his passes with more pace on the ball and with one touch, and so trying to force his teammates to do the same.

Why can't he do that? He is capable, he does have the skills, the vision and the understanding. It's a mentality thing, as he is always looking to finish, rather than to create. He can be a creator and that's what I hoped Silva would do with him.

Paul Cherrington
19 Posted 28/02/2019 at 15:38:14
Why should Sigurdsson not be expected to create anything or dominate games?

Surely that is one of the main things he should be doing as one of our better players and main sources of inspiration. That is like saying Messi or Ronaldo can just coast through games and score the odd goal when they feel like it and it is okay.

I'm pretty sure Barca or Juve fans would not put up with that! I think people are too easily pleased if playing well and scoring against a terrible Cardiff team makes up for months of anonymous performances. Passing that responsibility onto a player like Gana who sits in front of the back four is not fair and also pretty dangerous.

It should be Sigurdsson getting on the ball in central and attacking areas and dictating play – that is what he is in the team for. Too often, he is content to hide and not do anything to really dominate a game. Another one with a lack of character and leadership... which is why we are in such a mess.

Trevor Peers
20 Posted 28/02/2019 at 16:35:08
Steve, if Sigurdsson had all the skills and the mindset you require do you really think he'd be at Everton? Of course not, he be off to Spain or a top 6 club like a shot.

As pointed out by so many, we are a middle of the table club and will be for a long time to come. He's as good as we're likely to expect if not a bit better.

Tom Bowers
21 Posted 28/02/2019 at 16:38:45
We, quite naturally are expected to lose on Sunday given our form since the last game at Anfield but it was the same then and we did but very nearly shook them up only for a last-minute fluke.

It would be really nice to see Everton upset them on Sunday; after all, they are due to lose another one so why not us?

Common sense says that their squad is much stronger than ours and they should prevail but if Everton can get some run-off of confidence out of the Cardiff game they may be able to get at least the point they deserved last time.

Whilst lowly Cardiff is no yardstick it was good to see some players back on track and I was pleased to see Calvert-Lewin do well.

It's been an awful season but just perhaps Sunday may see the miracle we are all hoping for before it comes to a close.

Tony Everan
22 Posted 28/02/2019 at 16:44:05
I see Harry Kane's faux headbutt has been given the blessing of the FA .

Wasn't too dissimilar to what Richarlison got sent off and banned for.

Rob Marsh
23 Posted 28/02/2019 at 17:17:50
Steve Ferns #17

"Xabi Alonso was a world class deep lying playmaker. He couldn't tackle, but he sat deep and got on the ball and used his excellent range of passing to dictate games. Mascherano played alongside him as a ball winner."

If you remember, we had a duo like that, Reid and Bracewell were easily the match of them two, but Reid could carry the ball forward better than Alonso.

It's a pity they never got chance to prove themselves in the European Cup, I seem to recall we had to serve a ban for something we didn't do? This "something" was committed by a bunch of reprehensible hooligans many would say.

Brian Murray
24 Posted 28/02/2019 at 17:23:48
Sigurdsson really needs to somehow shape-up like a £45-million player on Sunday if we are to escape with at least a draw. The trouble is, them shisters never have an off-day against us. Here's hoping we get a fair ref — that would be a change!
Jay Harris
25 Posted 28/02/2019 at 17:27:16
For someone who has "gone missing most of the season" he hasn't half put some workrate and miles in and scored 11 goals and created quite a few too.

I wish some of the others would "go missing" more often.

Sandra Bowen
26 Posted 28/02/2019 at 17:59:11
Tim Cahill in his best season for us scored 12 goals. Sigurdsson is on 11 in the league already.

I loved Cahill for his attitude and his goals and I appreciate he cost about 20 times less but did he do much more than score goals? I think that most would agree that he was a huge player for us so what's the beef with Sigurdsson. Is it just that he lacks a trademark celebration.

I quite like players that score goals, it's the general idea of the game, isn't it.

He's been out of form and struggling for the exact same period that the team has been shit yet every game I've seen he still creates at least 2 or 3 chances for himself or others. An absolutely vital player for us and has to be in the team.

If we ever recruit a decent striker who can hold up and link play then he'll be even better. He played his best for the swans when he had either Bony (when he was good) and Lorente in front of him.

Darren Hind
27 Posted 28/02/2019 at 18:36:49
On his day, Sigurdsson is fantastic at arriving behind the first wave; for him to really thrive, there has to be a first wave. He can't be it. He will always get his share of goals because he is a very clean striker of a ball.

He should have more assists because nobody puts a dead ball into the danger zone like he does – It drives me mad when they are not attacked.

What he isn't and he never will be is a Number 10. He simply doesn't have the vision. He does take up the Number 10 position and see's plenty of the ball, but you can count on one hand the number of goals he creates from open play.

Cenk Tosun isn't the best of strikers but he is very willing and always makes the arched or angled run... Siggy simply doesn't see the pass... Then again, if he did, he probably wouldn't be playing for us.

If I'm a powerhouse attacking crosses (Like Llorente) I would want to see Sigurdsson in the team every week. If I'm a play on-the-shoulder-of-the-last-man kind of player. I would probably be as frustrated as poor old Cenk.

Kase Chow
28 Posted 28/02/2019 at 19:06:58
Sandra #26 – that's a brilliant point re Cahill. I agree, Sigurdsson gets way too much stick. Not his fault he cost so much. Also, not his fault he's not a No 10 (he didn't play there for Swansea).

Darren #27 – I totally agree. A proper striker would feed off Sigurdsson better and he would feed off him better. Almost a la Lampard (although obviously not as good).

Sigurdsson has been one of our most effective players this season. Still gets stick though which is bizarre.

Steve Ferns
29 Posted 28/02/2019 at 19:18:13
I see Richarlison has made the Brazil squad. That’s not been done on current form. What they saying about it in Brazil, Jay / Fran? Do they know how poor he’s been?
Andrew Laird
30 Posted 28/02/2019 at 19:57:19
Cannot see the logic having Gylfi drop deep to collect the ball whatsoever, this will just increase the vast chasm between the lone striker and everyone else completely negating going long to that striker unless he is somehow going to flick it on for himself or hold it up for 5-6 seconds and wait.

It's Martinez's philosophy all over again and we don't have the movement, blistering pace on the wings or players comfortable enough on the ball to carry this off. This, if anything, would encourage the opposition to pin us in and commit more men forward safe in the knowledge that our “out ball” is either going straight back to them or out for a throw.

Darren, I completely agree that Sigurdsson is fantastic at arriving late just like Lampard used to as Kase points out but think you are being a little harsh saying Gylfi lacks vision. Gylfi, for me, is the best passer of a ball at Everton, Digne is running him close now though.

He seems to be the only player who possesses the ability to accurately fire a pass into feet from 20 -30 yards which is crucial where play is so congested in the final third. (If the recipient can't control it then that's another thing entirely). If there were willing runners and movement in front of him he would see it and find them. I have lost count of the amount of times our forwards or widemen either hang back or stand directly behind the opposition!

Sigurdsson is our biggest asset and those who want him benched or ask “what has he ever done for us” need a firm shake and a trip to Specsavers.

John G Davies
31 Posted 28/02/2019 at 20:05:47
Have to disagree, Darren. I think he sees the pass clearly, the runs are hopeless. Look back through the seasons: if the run is good (doesn't happen often) he sees and plays the pass.

Very calm on the ball on the edge of the box.

Jay Woods
32 Posted 28/02/2019 at 20:41:17
The biggest myth about the derby: "Form goes out of the window". No, it doesn't; the teams whose millionaires are richer than the other team's millionaires generally wins. Hence we usually either lose or draw this fixture.

Right now, I would take a 0-0 draw and hope that Man City win. It's about as much as we can salvage from this steaming pile of offal of a season.

Darren Hind
33 Posted 28/02/2019 at 20:45:55
Examples?
Jimmy Hogan
34 Posted 28/02/2019 at 20:49:00
Jay #9, not sure if you were being serious or not. There is a song for Sigurdsson and has been for a while. I wouldn't say it was that great though.
Kieran Kinsella
35 Posted 28/02/2019 at 20:53:25
Jay Woods 32

Form went out the window during the Royle, Smith, Kendall III years.

John G Davies
36 Posted 28/02/2019 at 21:13:57
Yes please.
Paul Birmingham
37 Posted 28/02/2019 at 21:40:45
Let’s back the squad and turn the form book up.

No doubt VVD, will be going up all their set plays, so I hope and pray that who ever plays in defence and the whole team has a defensive plan, unlike Watford whom, defended like we have most of this season and gave him two free headers.

Siggy gets too much stick, so without his goals this season, we’d be in a worst place, than we are.

We haven’t had a balanced team for a few years now, and perhaps there was a few signs of better team play and movement v Cardiff.

Let’s hope they aren’t in their finest diving mode and falling over. As proven, so many times we get sfa, against this shower and Rooney pen, 2 years ago, was the first we’ve had against them in Donkies years. The last at GP, I recall was David Unsworth circa 2002, and 2003, and both games we lost.

I remember that Dutch Troglodite getting 2 against us in 2007, when he should have been sent off.

Yep the penalty record stinks, and I can’t see the bias eve, ever changing.

So, I hope the team has a leader on the pitch and sticks together, on the pitch, and hounds the RS, into miss takes.

Clinical finishing we need, let’s, hope we can do it.

That at least would ease the pain of of this season so far.

Dave Abrahams
38 Posted 28/02/2019 at 21:47:10
Paul (37), yes no doubt Van Dijk will be going up for every corner, let's hope Silva leaves two fast players on the half-way line each time he does... hopefully Bernard being one of them. Let Pickford be on his toes and ready launch the ball upfield from these corners, keep Liverpool on their toes.
John G Davies
39 Posted 28/02/2019 at 22:11:12
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-gylfi-sigurdsson-highlights-goals-15896465

Not too bad.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

40 Posted 28/02/2019 at 22:22:01
Steve @ 29.

Nothing wrong with Richarlison making the Brazil squad. Tite going with continuity.

I doubt if Tite is going to change his squad that much ahead of this year's Copa America in Brazil in the summer.

The Brazilian league hasn't kicked off yet, although there is plenty of football being played in both the state leagues and the preliminary round of the continent's inter-club competitions. Not that there are many alternatives plying their trade in Brazil.

Like last summer ahead of the World Cup, as far as the Brazil squad goes, the nation is on 'Neymar watch' to see if he is going to be fit for the Copa America.

Paul Birmingham
41 Posted 28/02/2019 at 22:27:25
Dave @38, agreed. You'd like to think of so-called lessons learned this season. Let's hope so.

The easy way and hard wat to do and learn things in life as they reach you, as a kid.

If, and a massive if, we won, how nice it would be. History tells its story, but I'd love us to spike their plans.

Fair to say, a life time more or less of anguish generally with EFC and that lot in particular does make you look at life differently.

I just hope the team plays with fire and steel and stops them playing. Our finishing must be on par with the Cardiff game and we must when the chances comes take them.

Hopefully we'll have a real captain on the park, and we stick to the game and etch out a win and put Mr Ed in his place.

Jamie Crowley
42 Posted 28/02/2019 at 23:54:13
Congrats to Sigurdsson. Surely if you're Icelandic, clipping the all-time goal record in the Premier League is a massive achievement.

Dave Abrahams at 38 -

I could not agree more.

Van Dijk, plainly to me, is an absolutely fantastic footballer. For my money, he's the MVP (Americanism alert!) of the entire Premier League this season. It will be very difficult to score with him back there. He's just everything I personally would ever want from a centre-back.

We simply have to counter when he goes forward for a set-piece or corner and is out of position. They will be at their weakest if we can gain possession quickly from a corner and literally blitzkrieg the shit out of them.

I pray Silva is drilling that into the team this week.

Man for man, they have a better squad. They're a better team at the moment. It's that simple. We have to expose as many weaknesses as we can, and countering from set pieces when Van Dijk is up the pitch is, for me, the number one way to do that.

I want a late, late winner. I want to see Silva run out on the pitch. I think it's a terrible thing to do and I slated Klopp for doing so. Classless act.

But I want the sweet satisfaction of revenge, and the dirty joy of excusing something that should never be done, only because one of ours did it.

Those other folk are notorious for that. I'd Kevin-Keegan-love-it if we can repay the act.

Jamie Crowley
43 Posted 01/03/2019 at 00:13:34
Remember that blustery night Tim Howard scored his goal? Aided by a Cat 5 Hurricane force gust, the ball bouncing over the opposing gingy keeper's head?

Teammates mobbed Tim Howard, but Tim Howard wouldn't celebrate his goal. A keeper got a goal and wouldn't celebrate it!

Why?

Because Tim Howard said he didn't want to show up the opposing keeper after such an error.

Contrast that with Klippity's pitch invasion after our boy Jordan made the mother of all mistakes.

Class and cunts. Two categories. File each action under which you will.

John Pierce
44 Posted 01/03/2019 at 00:28:19
Ah JaC. I was there that night, debris strewn across Goodison Park. I was in the Park End and as soon as it took flight, I knew Bogdan was in trouble.

We lost that night... typical against a side doomed.

Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 01/03/2019 at 01:26:39
Jamie #43, AMEN.
Si Cooper
47 Posted 01/03/2019 at 02:00:06
I'll go out on a limb and say I don't mind ANY manager celebrating success for his team, and in many ways I'd rather that last minute gift obviously meant so much more than the extra 2 points than beating us be considered humdrum.

I don't like the RS and I don't wish for any success for them, but I don't get the venom for Klippity who I find kinda refreshing.

Back to the footy, and particularly this coming Sunday. I agree on the need for a counter-attacking threat but I'd personally I'd be surprised if Bernard could out sprint either Alexander-Arnold or Robertson. I consider his forte to be tricky feet and a short dash getting him away from a more cumbersome player.

On Sigurdsson; yes it's not his fault how much he cost but I had hoped he'd be more like Erikson, who I think is at a level of player we could reasonably attract and keep. Spurs aren't that far ahead of us in the wages they pay... are they?

Darren Hind
48 Posted 01/03/2019 at 03:59:26
Klopp has to be one of the most two-faced gobshites in football. His holier-than-thou lies about being unwilling to spend obscene money were well and truly exposed when he signed his goalie and his centre-half.

This fucker acted like he's won Wimbledon, the Open, the Grand National and the fucking Boat Race all in one go when they got that poxy late goal at Anfield.... and he has the fucking brass neck to tell us it's our World Cup? The archetypal Kopite — a complete Kelly Maloney.

Fair means or foul, we have to derail their season this weekend. I want him suffering, I want this to feel like a kick in the teeth (all 40 of them). I want every Kopite to know that "The Bitters" ruined their season by raising their game simply to spoil their party

And then, afterwards, by way of celebration, I want to quite literally hang the fuckers on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

Mark Andersson
49 Posted 01/03/2019 at 04:29:26
Darren take a chill pill...

I just watched 2 video interviews one with Tim Cahill the other his best blue mate Arteta...

Arteta in derby wins says we had no choice but to play ugly to stop the red shite playing their game coz technically they were far superior... his words still ring true... but this Everton side is full of shithouse losers who have no fight or desire to win.

Not being negative, just realistic...

Untill we get fighter-mentality footballers in the team, we will always lose to the top 6...

James Gardner
50 Posted 01/03/2019 at 04:54:15
Let’s not forget, Liverpool have a tendency to “choke” when it comes down to the business end of the league.

Klopp is trying to deflect some of the pressure from his team and claiming it’s our cup final is cheap and classless as Jamie C rightfully pointed out above.

In reality, all the pressure is on them as they can’t afford any “slip” ups.

That being said, I want nothing short of 100% on Sunday and want to see us going toe to toe with that lot.

Darren Hind
51 Posted 01/03/2019 at 06:34:25
I'm am chilled, Mark.

I don't really want to hang them all down by the river if we win. Too many relatives. too costly... and who would we wind up on Monday?

Besides, I once met one that was quite a decent fella.

Paul Tran
52 Posted 01/03/2019 at 06:43:10
Darren, Getaway Trump is now likely to run at Kelso on Saturday, then all being well to the grade 1 novice hurdle at Aintree. Nicholls thinks the Coral Cup might be a bit much for a young horse and wants to mind him for chasing next season.
John Malone
53 Posted 01/03/2019 at 07:00:47
It's going to be tough but hopefully a revatlised Sigurdsson and a refreshed Gomes and Bernard can help us get a result.

Up the Toffees!

Laurie Hartley
54 Posted 01/03/2019 at 08:56:04
Sandra # 26 – I like Sigurdsson also but where Tim Cahill had the drop on him and the rest of our current squad is that Tim was scared of no-one and had the ability to rattle the Reds – especially Gerrard.

The “eyes” have it

I watched them demolish Watford. We won't beat them for pace or strength so it will have to be guile.

Bernard on the left, Lookman on the right, and Calvert-Lewin up front.

Oh, and Sigurdsson just in behind them.

Up the Blues!!

Bobby Thomas
55 Posted 01/03/2019 at 09:12:10
Unfortunately, Liverpool are probably the best home side in the country and it's only the away form that can stop them winning the Premier League.

We have to show up and at least balance out the 2 extra points we gifted them at Anfield. They'd be a point behind Man City without our assistance.

Trevor Peers
56 Posted 01/03/2019 at 09:48:30
Darren @48.

They should hang your post up in the dressing room, before the game, as an inspiration of our desire to beat the crap out of the RS at all costs.

I wonder if some of our foreign buys realise how much it means to us supporters to grab this victory I hope they do. We only have one chance in this game and that is to fight them with blood, sweat and tears for every ball for the full 90+ minutes. I'm sure the crowd will play their part.

Paul Cherrington
57 Posted 01/03/2019 at 10:13:33
For anyone to compare Sigurdsson with an Everton legend like Tim Cahill is laughable. If people cannot see the absolute chasm between them in terms of will to win, desire and passion, it is beyond me.

Cahill always had an impact in games when he played and galvanised the whole team behind him. If Sigurdsson does this, I must have missed it for the entire season.

I think Sigurdsson sums up most of our current problems. No doubt a very nice fella, can do lots of fancy tricks and flicks but does not have the ability to boss games or get himself involved enough to make a real difference regularly. Until we start valuing character as much as technical skill, we will have a team full of Sigurdssons who do not have the mentality to be winners.

Yes, he will have a few good games where he looks pure class – like the other night – the question is, why does he not do it every game? If he is such a master at pinging passes around, why does he create so little for the team in most games? You cannot blame other players here – if he is as good as many claim, he would make things happen on his own more regularly.

Joe McMahon
58 Posted 01/03/2019 at 11:19:58
Bobby @55 with you all the way. But we didn't gift them the victory, Pickford did. Just like the FA Cup tie against them also.
Rob Halligan
59 Posted 01/03/2019 at 12:08:36
Darren #51.

"Besides, I once met one that was quite a decent fella."

You're wrong mate, there isn't a decent one on the face of this planet.

"Kopites are gobshites, every single one of 'em."

James Hughes
62 Posted 01/03/2019 at 12:36:55
Rob you're mostly correct, there are a couple of exceptions. My dad was a RS. I even wore a red scarf for his funeral last October. Wasn't on long, just the service and no photos were allowed!! My older sister also has the disease and she's okay. Her fella is a knobhead so that restores the normal order. :)
Dave Abrahams
63 Posted 01/03/2019 at 12:50:55
I think it is imperative that every player in the squad knows the importance of this game to us... fuck them! Get every Scouser and ex-Everton player still connected to the club down their ears telling them “No fuckin' quitters today, no faint hearts, fight like your life depends on it, fight, fight and fuckin' fight some more."

It has to be drummed into them, when Wayne Rooney came back and played in his first derby game, he told friends he couldn't believe how quiet that week was at Finch Farm. No one any different to any other game, so if they don't know how important it is, get them in the mood from now and let us make them know on Sunday by creating a great atmosphere from the minutes the gates open for the game. Just play for us for 90 minutes – it won't kill you... make us enjoy the game by your efforts.

John G Davies
64 Posted 01/03/2019 at 13:13:57
Stirring stuff, Dave.

Hairs on the back of the neck...

Derek Knox
65 Posted 01/03/2019 at 13:36:06
Dave Abrahams, you have hit the nail firmly and squarely on the head there, and while I am with you 100%, I doubt whether the Manager has enough passion to instill that attitude in the players, nor the players (apart from Davies and Kenny) that know what the importance of a derby is.

Hoping they may come out with gritted teeth, and fight in their bellies, which is why team selection will be not only be important, but could determine the outcome of the game.

Brent Stephens
66 Posted 01/03/2019 at 14:02:41
Dave #65 great rallying call! As John #66 says, hairs on the back of your neck...

I'm sure our players want the crowd to get behind them – sure-fire way to do it is for the players to come out all guns blazing. Give us the sort of fight and grit we saw against Man City. If we lose, we lose, but I want to go away from the game with pride if not a point.

Brian Harrison
67 Posted 01/03/2019 at 14:22:26
Just a few stats for Sigurdsson's critics: he has scored more goals this season than Rashford, Firmino, Martial and Sane, all playing for better teams than Everton are at present. He has also scored the same number of goals as Lacazette, Heung-Min Son and Pogba.
Andy Meighan
68 Posted 01/03/2019 at 15:00:33
Just echoing what Dave @65 said.

I've just been watching a video of Tim Cahill's Merseyside derby memories... If we've got anyone on Sunday with half the heart and fight he showed in these games, then we've got half a chance. Even talking about it years later, you could still see what it meant to him; he was nearly in tears, as I was myself listening to him. I forgot how good that side was. Cahill, Arteta, Carsley, Baines, Jagielka etc...

I just hope these shower of cowards put up one hell of a fight for us on Sunday because I fear, if we lose an early goal, it could get messy. I think the longer it stays goalless, we've got a good chance. I hate this fixture with a passion, my stomach is turning now just thinking about it... But I've a funny feeling I won't be feeling any better come 6:30 Sunday night.

Down to you now, Marco lad!

John G Davies
69 Posted 01/03/2019 at 15:35:45
https://youtu.be/vZ9g6GGnOI4

Some reckon Siggy has got no vision

Steve Ferns
70 Posted 01/03/2019 at 15:57:53
John, no one can dispute Gylfi has quality. The goals total confirms that. On the assist front, he can do better, especially as he gets a lot of assists from set-pieces, and again those set-pieces can be better (not least because he is better than he has shown).

My main gripe has always been about not being dominant in games and trying to make things happen. There's no reason he can't get himself on the ball more and speed up the tempo of the game. He can drop deeper to show for the ball earlier, then move the ball quickly to the flanks and get forwards himself, now a yard or two back and so able to arrive late unmarked into the box, or he can find a forward pass to the forward to try to get him through on goal.

No questions from me about his shooting, his passing, or his vision. It's just why can't we see more of it?

Dave Pritchard
71 Posted 01/03/2019 at 16:06:26
Steve, re Sigurdsson and assists. I think his assists record with us would be much higher if we had any decent finishers.
Tony Everan
72 Posted 01/03/2019 at 16:15:06
Well said, Dave #63.

We contained them well at Anfield and had chances. We are at home, we have the crowd. If we play at the same level with the same commitment as we did in December, with the luck swing our way we can win the match.

We all know we have been struggling for form this last 2 months, but it's a confidence thing. You could see it flooding back in the 2nd half at Cardiff. They were well beaten at the end, but that was down to us being well on top of the game.

The first goal will be all important for us for that confidence to take root.

The team selection will be interesting, I think Zouma will be back in. Up front we need Richarlison to get some form back. I think Silva will stick with him as a starter but really Bernard should be ahead of him, and I want Bernard to start.

There were signs of improvement from the little man on Tuesday, if he can build on that performance he can become a menace. I want him to be beating the full back in every game, and getting his pull back or cross in. It creates havoc, and he is well capable.

Liam Reilly
73 Posted 01/03/2019 at 16:28:31
Richarlison has to start for me. If he plays like he was playing earlier in the season or when he pulls on a yellow jersey, then we could be calling this the 'Ricky' Derby for years to come.

I'd take a scrappy 1-0 right now, though a Van Dijk own-goal from Sigurdsson's set-piece. Yeah – I would take that.

Derek Knox
74 Posted 01/03/2019 at 17:01:22
Liam @ 73, I thought you wanted him to play in goal at first (yellow jersey) then I twigged the Brazil connection.

Seriously though as many have pointed out he seems to have gone way off the boil recently, and the antics of going down for a cheap free kick, have his card well marked in most ref's books, plus it won't fare well for Sunday's task.

Again as many fellow TW'ers have intimated team selection will be paramount, we need 11 'men' for the duration of the match, with no shirkers or passengers. Also no rash tackles in dangerous areas, which will give them opportunities on a plate.

Darren Hind
75 Posted 01/03/2019 at 17:17:15
Good observations, Steve.

I said on another thread you could count on one hand the number of assists from open play. I wasn't just talking about his time at Everton. Siggy tends to look for the easier pass to the wide men rather than thread the eye of a needle. There is the odd exception – there always is (let's hope we get one tomorrow) but if he had the vision to regularly pick out the runs of strikers. He would be a more complete player and probably wouldn't even be with us.

I'd rather concentrate on what he can do. His delivery of a dead ball is as good as anyone in the League. If we had somebody like Llorente to attack those deliveries I think seventh may already be secured. Let's not forget, he can shoot with either foot, The RS will be very wary of him tomorrow.

He's been very poor since around Chrimbo and has been justifiably criticised, but he looked like he had found his shooting boots again last week. his passing was crisper too.

The first thing I will do when I get in the bookies tomorrow morning is check out his odds to score again against RS



Rob Halligan
76 Posted 01/03/2019 at 17:30:56
Pickford.
Coleman, Zouma, Jagielka, Digne.
Gomes, Gueye.
Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Bernard.
Calvert-Lewin.

This would be my team for Sunday. One surprise maybe having Jagielka before Keane. Although Jags is not the greatest player, he has plenty of experience, and any signs of trouble, he just hoofs the ball away. I always say the opposition can't score if the ball is 80 yards away or in Row Z of the stands.

I would also stretch their back four with the two wide men, Richarlison and Bernard, with the strict instruction to stay as close to the touchline as possible, Walcott and Lookman always come inside to narrow the play, and give Coleman no options of a pass down the line. Both Richarlison and Bernard have the pace and ability to go past their full backs.

I also said before the game at Anfield that it might be a good thing to have no local lads in the team, that there mightn't be as much pressure on "outsiders" in the team. This almost worked until Pickford's blunder.

Whatever team is put out though, every single one of them needs to ram Mr Ed's words back down his throat. And also Marco, you know it's only a maximum fine of £8k to run on the pitch and celebrate a last minute winner, so go for it!!

Tony Abrahams
77 Posted 01/03/2019 at 17:53:31
Got to stop their fullbacks bombing-on, Rob, or try to exploit the space down the sides once they do.

That's what has cost us nearly as much as the zonal marking this season, with the gaps that we leave when we attack, so maybe even just flood the midfield, and frustrate. Look to stay in the game and then look to break on the counter very quickly.

John G Davies
78 Posted 01/03/2019 at 17:59:06
Goalposts being moved.
John Pierce
79 Posted 01/03/2019 at 18:20:09
I lot of up and at em on this thread. I believe Klopp wants us all up in arms about his comments. He knows if we get too emotionally invested without control they win by picking us off.

The story all too often, we go in all guns blazing, over committing losing either an early goal or worse a player to a red card.

A controlled, counter attacking effort will, I believe, be the way to win. The pressure is on them not us, staying compact is the way to mitigate our weaknesses as we are often opened up in transition.

Let’s hope we don’t see the usual mistske of going straight for them, it rarely works.

Lev Vellene
81 Posted 01/03/2019 at 18:21:03
Will there even be a game, I wonder? I see Storm Freya is expected to hit Sunday afternoon...
Dave Abrahams
82 Posted 01/03/2019 at 18:45:14
John (79), yes I go along with that. Compact and controlled aggression for 90 minutes, no switching off. Play as we did at Anfield, making sure we put our chances away. Every man aware what this means to us; if they give us that effort, then we are in with a very good chance.
Paul Birmingham
83 Posted 01/03/2019 at 18:45:57
We need to get a wind up song, written for Sunday, and put Mr Ed, in his place...

Saying that, to take some prisoners, and win, would be great.

I sense that they may be think they just have to turn up.

If we don’t commit Kamikaze passes and keep organised and play as a cohesive team, we have a chance.

That’s the question, but we are over due a good win at GP and more so against v RS.

Let’s hope for once in a decade almost, we can beat them.

Paul Birmingham
84 Posted 01/03/2019 at 19:08:08
As a starter and in German. All ideas are welcome to build, add, change this song.

Ode to Mr Ed

Jurgen, die Dumpkopf, Jurgen, die Dumpkopf, ist schlect,
Repeat, x3 times,
Jurgen ist ein grossen, rotten, schlect.

Repeat again, and if we win, we sing songs, all night, in the pubs, bars and homes of all Evertonians.

To the tune of Rosaller Mende, as they sing at The Munich beer festival.

Great memories of Munich.

Jason Wilkinson
85 Posted 01/03/2019 at 19:42:50
I think Siggy has the perfect persona to face the RS. He is calm and decisive in his actions.
Pickford, Keane, Richy, Digne and Seamus worry me playing that lot.
They show their emotions too much.

What's wrong with that? Well, two things. 1/ Refs tend to book or send players off who get a bit gobby or have a go at the opposition.
2/ The RS seem to get under our players skin with their antics.

A solid performance doing the job they're paid to do with the serenity of Siggy will get us a point. A little bit of magic will get us three.

Give Jordan a big fat spliff about half an hour before kick off and a few tokes at half time to stop the showboating. Shove a gram up Richy's hooter to a/ wake him up and b/ so he doesn't rub the back of his head every time his hair gets touched going up for a header. A bit of amphet for Keane and a personality transplant for Marco.

Play with patience, stop them controlling the game at their pace (centre halves strolling to the half way line), look to get in behind their wing backs on the break and get Siggy arriving late to the edge of the box and we might just start to believe again.

Hate playing these f**kers COYBB

Paul Birmingham
86 Posted 01/03/2019 at 21:17:35
Jason@85, that’s the optimism, we need.
As you say the players must stay calm and show controlled aggression.

I hope Gana gets to grips early. Interesting to see which attack, midfield and defence start.

Fighting spirit for 98 minutes and some luck.

Bobby Mallon
87 Posted 01/03/2019 at 22:44:30
Just have a great big scrap!
Neil Copeland
88 Posted 01/03/2019 at 22:44:54
Playing Schneiderlin against Cardiff seemed to bring the best out of Gana. I also think that in turn helped Gylfi put in such a good performance. Gana was further forward than normal and made a number of good runs and forward passes which seemed to free up Siggy more. I wouldn't be surprised if Schneiderlin gets the nod over Gomes on Sunday.

Whilst I agree that Bernard should get a start, I am not sure if he is s 90min player - he seems to have more impact when coming off the bench (as does Lookman). Having said that I would still start one or the other ahead of Walcott, preferably Bernard.

Zouma has to play so simply a case of who partners him; Jagielka or Keane. Difficult one and although I lean towards Jags I think it will be Keane.

Richarlison needs to chill a bit, he is trying too hard and becomes very frustrated early in the game. He needs to learn to be patient, keep his cool and stop falling over. I would still start him though,

The rest of the team I think will be as started on Tuesday.

As others say above, we have to get stuck in from the kick-off, no slackers, get under their skin at every opportunity and above all else stay calm. Stick to the plan and, with strong vocal support, we can do them – COYB!

Jason Wilkinson
90 Posted 01/03/2019 at 23:40:44
Paul #86,

Thanks. I hope our support at the match doesn't show controlled aggression. I hope those twats leave Goodison never wanting to come back ever again.

Before anyone pipes up, I am not condoning physical, homophobic or racist abuse. Just make it as hostile and uncomfortable for their players as you can, lads and girls.

Oh I do like to be beside the Mersey,
oh I do like to be beside the sea,
Fuck off McMahon.

Believe, sing your hearts out and give the bastards hell.


Stephen Meighan
91 Posted 01/03/2019 at 00:04:33
Let's make it fucken poison at the Old Lady on Sunday. I don't give a fuck how uncomfortable it is for them plastic Norwegian flag-waving bellends. Just give us a show, Everton. It's been far too long without a win in this fixture. Passion please.
Kase Chow
92 Posted 02/03/2019 at 01:14:52
Dave #63,

Of course the players get it. They always have. That's why they've always bottled it in recent times

Jerome Shields
93 Posted 02/03/2019 at 04:47:13
Sandra #26. I agree that Sigurdsson's problems arise from the play that is in front of him.
Paul Birmingham
94 Posted 02/03/2019 at 06:47:45
All good points, “No Surrender, and fight for 98 mins “ and let’s believe and beat the RS.


Bobby Mallon
95 Posted 02/03/2019 at 07:28:08
My weekend team in a 4–1-3-2 formation
Pickford
Kenny
kean
Jags
Deign
zouma
Gomez
Gana
Davies
Sigurdson
DCL
Using zouma to man mark mane as he’s a menace
Joey Crawley
96 Posted 02/03/2019 at 18:06:54
To say Gylfi and Eidur are the greatest things to come out of Iceland since Kerry Katona's mahoosive mammaries is truly credit to the islanders' expert bookkeeping skills.

The world gives them cash to keep safe in cold store in their igloos, attracting little attention to the world tax revenues whilst gaining fantasy-ful interest rates no doubt through the aid of their local dwelling pixie hedge fund managers.

This whilst heavily investing in grass Astroturf roots football and producing some world-class footballers out of a population of only a small city.

Also, while keeping the globe peacefully unaware that the pixies have indeed cooked the books and distracting their debtors who cried out “send us the tones of cash” with a massive explosion that sent tonnes of ash all over the world and grounded every plane in the northern hemisphere so no one could send the high court sheriffs over to collect.

Bloody genius bunch of islanders; we need to set up an academy up over there pronto.

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