Onyekuru prefers another season in Istanbul

It will also give us another year to work out what to do with Lookman (I'd like him to stay and play).

If he plays in all of Nigeria's 2019 remaining games and 2020, will he be eligible to play for Everton?

Personally, I can't see him ever playing for us. Silva and Brands would rather get loanees that are better than the dross we have stealing a living.

As Mark @3, mentioned, will we ever get to see him in a Blue Shirt? We must be paying half of his wages all the same so he is still costing us, without kicking a ball in anger when we could be doing with more goals.

Jamie C, I am not sure what the criteria are as far as games played for country to qualify for a work permit. I think it depends on the country's standing in the Fifa World Rankings so it can vary from country to country. Barring any rule changes, we should see him next year hopefully?

There would have to be some sale fee for us to even break even?

I don't know how long his contract is for but, if he stays there another year and he only has a 3-year contract, then he becomes a free agent.

Nigeria have 4 games coming up shortly. So if he plays in all 4 I believe he will qualify for a work permit.

As I've said on a previous thread, other clubs don't seem to have work permit issues!!!

He won't qualify for a permit by playing all 4 games. He'll still have nowhere near enough caps for his country.

Then again, it is not always as cut and dried as that, it depends on who has initiated the loan, if a Club approaches another with a specific desire to sign a player, it could, but rarely in reality, result in the loaning club paying all of his wages.

The Rule of Thumb, which doesn't really exist in effect, but generally it is 50/50 for most loan deals, like I said they are negotiated individually, and dependent who has initiated the loan.

Henry needs 75% i.e. 21 but has only 24%. Even playing all African Nations games he is still way off, so looking like another year.

To be more exact, you need to analyse each game in the two-year timeframe and keep tracking.

Hopefully another year and he will continue developing, playing Champions League football. With a contract extension, we should see him next year, if not, sell him for a good 㿀million + future sale %...

We'll find out a lot more this coming month. They have friendlies with Zimbabwe and Senegal on the 8th and 16th, and then the Africa Cup of Nations starts on the 21st. This is his chance to start piling up caps.

He seems to be only getting better, and *could* be the striker we need... but we really ought to be making the case to get him in for next season. Maybe I'm too focused on matters Everton, but it does seem bizarre that we appear to be the only club caught out by this nonsense.

Not that we don't have previous. Wasn't it Alex Nyarko given a 5-year contract when his work permit was only valid for 4???

It would be interesting know the answers. If we don't receive any loan fees and we are paying some of his wages, it seems like a lot of trouble to keep him signed up considering we have already laid out ٦M to sign him in the first place.

It's a gambling strategy. You can buy a young player a lot cheaper if he doesn't have a work permit yet. If Henry hadn't torn up his knee and missed so many internationals in 2018, he might already be qualified to play for us. So I think it was actually a pretty good gamble, even if it hasn't worked out so far.

No idea on terms but we are in a weak position to negotiate. He can't play for us, so if Galatassary offered a 1 penny loan fee, we would be better off than him not playing at all. So, unless Galatassary are run by Steve Walsh, I imagine the loan deal isn't favorable financially to Everton.

As others have mentioned, we really should try to negotiate a 1-2 year extension option ASAP. If he does continue improving, come this time next year he'll only have 2 years left and his agent will be in a stronger negotiating position to get him sold elsewhere (by threatening not to sign a new contract) or squeezing us for a massive pay rise when he'll have zero Premier League experience.

I can't imagine he's on a massive contract now so getting an option in place seems wise. If anything to save us the massive fees strikers normally cost. If he doesn't work out in the Premier League we just don't trigger the extension.

All the above obviously assumes he actually does get to the 75% mark in 12 months time to get a work permit – we may be in the same situation again come May next year... he's got to play virtually all of Nigeria's games in the coming year to make the grade.

Sorry, but, to me, it is a further example of the cack-handed way this club operates.

Okay, I'm an aul arse but I remember snatching Alex Scott from the clutches of Spurs. Howard from signing for the dark side. Could we not go back to signing players who can actually turn out for us?

Is it that difficult?

A lot of people seem ready to file this away as another Walsh cuck-up, but, like Mike said, if he hadn't hurt his knee, he probably would have made Nigeria's World Cup squad and this could be a very different conversation.

I remember Liverpool trying, and failing, some years ago with Sebastien Leto. Benitez went berserk if I remember rightly... He then spent his Liverpool career on loan in Greece and has stayed there ever since. Liverpool also have a young Brazilian, Allan Rodrigues, who is on loan at Fluminese, has had time on loan in Europe too. He is very unlikely to ever get a work permit.

So Michael, I think this is probably the case with all clubs, yet we only know about Henry because he's with us.

If his contract runs the full course, then we will have paid him over 㾼M, and it looks like we have had nothing back since we bought him and already parted with 㾷M unless we are paying the original fee on the drip.

Something looks very wrong here.

How will we have paid him over 㾼m? His contract is worth ٦m total. We can't be on the hook for more than that.

We did pay a ٥m transfer fee to sign him, but almost all of that would have gone to Eupen, not the player. And if we sell him, we'll get all that back and far more. (I believe 㿂m was the number mooted for the Bayern deal, eh?)

Plus Galatasaray paid us a 𧽴,000 loan fee for this past season. I don't know if Anderlecht paid anything for the 2017-18 loan.

So even if we paid his entire salary for the past two loan seasons, he has cost us no more than ٠.5m so far, and his value has increased much, much more than that!

Not so bad.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/norway/story/3865028/norways-haland-scores-record-9-in-u20-wc-win

Just when I thought I'd erased it from my memory. .

Again please don't take that the wrong way but I thought we as a nation welcome doctors, nurses, professionals who have something to offer this country and it's people?

Someone please explain how the permit thing works? Much appreciated.