Mina's Copa America journey over

Saturday, 29 June, 2019 28comments  |  Jump to last
Yerry Mina will be heading back to Merseyside earlier than hoped after Colombia were eliminated from the Copa America at the quarter-final stage.

The Everton centre-half scored an impressive penalty – complete with bizarre celebration where he removed his shin pads to reveal a couple of personal photographs – in the shootout after the match against Chile had finished 0-0 but William Tesillo missed his kick and Alexis Sanchez decisive penalty.

Mina's tournament is over despite not having conceded a goal during this year's Copa.  

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Derek Knox
1 Posted 29/06/2019 at 16:32:00
Watched most of the games, although they were on very early in the morning, nodded off in a couple, but didn't miss much, as Jay Wood and Fran Mitchell, who both live in Brazil commented it was a poor competition compared to previous ones.

Most notably, Brazil who were hosts this year, and arguably had the most expensive line-up ever, failed to deliver both in terms of goals and entertainment. All-in-all, Mina acquitted himself with a degree of respectability and decent performances when called upon to do so.

I don't think we have seen the best of Mina in a blue shirt either, as he has had a mixed year with us: too many absences through injury and his settling-in period didn't help matters.

Si Smith
2 Posted 29/06/2019 at 17:49:22
Mina has looked a very polished footballer in this tournament, it will be good to see him get away with his family, get back and have a full pre-season with the blues.

Big season for both him and Richarlison this season, I think.

Phillip Warrington
3 Posted 29/06/2019 at 19:48:06
He played as good as any centre-half in the tournament, so hopefully he gains no injuries and has a solid pre-season, along with his conditioning of English conditions last year will enable him to show us how good of a player he will be for us.
Michael Kenrick
4 Posted 29/06/2019 at 22:43:05
And yet another hairline VAR decision ruins the spontaneity of another Copa America game (Uruguay vs Peru) and what looked in real time to be a perfectly executed strike by the man himself, Luis Suarez, looking down the line defenders in front of him and keeping himself level with them.

(Okay, the linesman did call it offside. And it's really the interpretation here, and not VAR itself that is the issue. Lyndon nailed it with his request for clear daylight between the last defender.)

But it just sickened me. Yet another goalless game... how many have there been now? How many Premier League games next season are gonna go the same way?

At least we don't have to endure the madness of extra time, which I have always hated, so I'm in favour of that. But if they are going to let VAR rule the game like this, we might as well just do a penalty shoot-out and call it good.

Albert Perkins
5 Posted 29/06/2019 at 23:11:16
Don't you like the VAR, Michael?
James Hill
6 Posted 30/06/2019 at 01:58:02
Have to agree with Michael on the VAR. It has the real potential to kill the game if every goal is contested and referees feel the need to go VAR after every goal. Players will pressure them in the hope they find something. Chile were robbed of a straight win.
Si Smith
7 Posted 30/06/2019 at 03:58:45
VAR is shite imo, takes away human error whilst still getting a lot wrong, add that to the stupid belated offsides makes it a total joke.

Imo we needed goal line technology, that's it, full stop, end of.

Brian Cleveland
8 Posted 30/06/2019 at 06:02:58
I'm with all the VAR detractors, it has completely ruined the passion and emotion.

I think the idea was to stop defenders sly tugs and to give more chances of goals, but it has actually worked the opposite by annulling a large number of goals that would have readily been accepted as legitimate.

I'm terms of quality, I've preferred the Women's World Cup, more dynamic and perhaps honest? This Copa América has been dull, and that's speaking from Colombia who really go all out to support their national team.
Quarter finals had three 0-0 draws? Only one team of the eight scored? Something messed up there... Oh yeah... VAR!

I know VAR has created a lot of problems in the Women's World Cup too, and far from removing controversy, it is introducing it.

I've seen some ridiculous handball decisions, still as inconsistent as ever in terms of deciding what is or what isn't.

I'm quite apprehensive about losing all spontaneity and passion come the new season.

Mike Gaynes
9 Posted 30/06/2019 at 06:04:08
The Gold Cup is usually vastly inferior to the Copa America, but not in tonight's quarterfinals. First Haiti shocked Canada, coming back from 0-2 down to win 3-2. Then Costa Rica and Mexico put on a beauty -- lots of scoring chances and hard fouls. And our onetime Old Trafford gamewinner Oviedo was brilliant for Costa Rica, shutting down attack after attack at one end and then sprinting to the other to pull back crosses from the end line.

Unfortunately Mexico won on pens, which means we have to listen to more homophobic obscenities from the scumbag Mexican fans.

Tomorrow, the USA plays against Cuco Martina and Curacao.

Brian Hennessy
10 Posted 30/06/2019 at 09:01:18
Before VAR was introduced I was all for it and couldn't understand why it took so long for the authorities to bring in video technology.

Now, after seeing it in action, I hate it and feel it's ruining the game. I had based my initial optimism after seeing the way it worked in rugby, but it just doesn't suit football for me.

Dave Abrahams
11 Posted 30/06/2019 at 09:16:07
Brian (10) VAR to me means Very Artificial Refereeing, in it’s present form it will drive match going supporters away from the game.
Clive Rogers
12 Posted 30/06/2019 at 09:41:26
The amount of football players have to play nowadays is just ridiculous.

Presumably Mina will now have a couple of weeks off while his Everton teammates report back for training. Richarlison has now only had one summer off since 2016. Some of these guys are going to suffer burn out.

I accept that in Mina's case it may have done him good having missed a big chunk of last season.

Shane Corcoran
13 Posted 30/06/2019 at 10:06:55
ToffeeWeb won't get nearly as much traffic with VAR next season. Correct decisions being made might well kill of the anti-Everton, Sky 4, 5, 6 or however many finish ahead of the Blues talk.
Liam Reilly
14 Posted 30/06/2019 at 13:40:12
VAR is supposed to remove human error, but football is a game of opinions and some of the decisions in the Women's World Cup are bewildering at best.

It will be interesting to see how calls against the Sky 6 are impacted by VAR.

Tony Abrahams
15 Posted 30/06/2019 at 13:55:01
Correct decisions, Shane? I'll believe it when I see it mate!
Andy Crooks
16 Posted 30/06/2019 at 14:23:13
VAR will, in my view change the game for the worse. Time to get an Ad break in is what it will become. Any dead air must, and will, be filled.

The World Cup in Qatar was the biggest blow to football ever inflicted by the thieves who run the game. VAR has the potential to top that. It is appalling.

John Pierce
17 Posted 30/06/2019 at 15:24:46
I was dismayed in the France - USA game. The handball calls have been unfair and needless in this World Cup, let that be clear.

Even with this madcap interpretation they still are hugely inconsistent. A Japanese player was penalized for the ball lashed at the top of her arm only a meter or so away, yet the USA defender had a cross hit her in much the same way, no check?!

Absolutely no consistency, the on-field referee unequivocal in her denial of the spot kick and check. It's completely confused.

Joe McMahon
18 Posted 30/06/2019 at 15:39:03
Liam @14, they won't be. The English team that has benefited from decades of iffy decisions will still get them, This year's Champions League Final "armpit ball" for example.
Mike Gaynes
19 Posted 30/06/2019 at 15:58:08
John #17, I'm just guessing here, but I'd speculate that FIFA finally realized that the new interpretation of handball was complete fricking idiocy and instructed the referees to stop calling it that way. Getting called for a pen when, as you say, a shot is kicked into your naturally dangling arm from point-blank range is totally unjust and goes directly against the spirit of the game. The handball calls against both Japan and Scotland were just plain wrong. The no-call against the US was the way the play has always been called, with intent and arm position figured in, and that was proper.

Of course, I could be wrong and the ref simply missed it, but I don't think she did. These new rules interpretations were finalized less than a week before the tournament – typical FIFA disrespect for the Women's World Cup – and I think they reversed course. Inconsistent, yes, but finally right.

Alan McKie
20 Posted 30/06/2019 at 16:45:49
I totally agree with Andy Crooks. Goal-line technology, one of the best things to have happened in football: ball over the line, Goal. No problem. VAR as it stands, is up to interpretation for minutes, and kills the game stone dead.

How did Qatar get the World Cup is a total disgrace. Greasy palms is all I can say.

Justin Doone
21 Posted 30/06/2019 at 17:06:55
VAR is to help eliminate human error. The problem being humans still have the final say and therefore, there will be inconsistency and human errors.

The rules need to be clearer to prevent human interpretation from a defenders, attackers, biased point of view.

If ball hits hand it's a penalty /free kick etc.

No "deliberate", "unnatural position" wording allowed. That's what causes issues.

Secondly is when VAR is used. It has to be for every shot, cross, tackle otherwise it becomes inconsistent. This second point is what will ruin the game.

I'm still not convinced by Mina in the Premier League. Obviously not much to go off but fingers crossed he's AWSOME!

John Pierce
22 Posted 30/06/2019 at 17:19:21
Mike - that's exactly what I believe has happened. Leaning on my own experience at tournaments or through a season it's not unusual to change tack, it makes you feel a dumbass with the players. You often find yourself apologizing with your body language because it's truly hard to implement laws when you can see the flaws in them. So I feel for the officials, it was also noticeable in all QFs that VAR was much less pronounced, again fueling my suspicion they've been asked to reel it in.

My point is to change half way through a tournament is crackers. The referee didn't miss it, the French players appealed – she emphatically told them to buzz off. They subsided quickly; if it were me, I'd be so in her face, simply because of the way the tournament had been called to that point.

John Pierce
23 Posted 30/06/2019 at 17:22:09
Justin - to tie the thread and the sub-thread together, I pray for Mina next season, VAR will ruin him!!! All those arms and legs, he's a ‘pusher and a shover'.
Sam Hoare
24 Posted 30/06/2019 at 18:46:04
I hope Mina might be very good when he is settled and used to the Premier League.

I think Silva may see him and Zouma as the ideal long term partnership with Keane a more than able deputy.

Mina looks a proper character and a leader. We don't seem to have a lot of them. A bit of joy in the team is always a good thing. Brands has spoken at length about bringing the right 'characters' in, I hope we will see chemistry and continuity bear fruit this season.

Peter Fearon
25 Posted 30/06/2019 at 20:36:03
I was very happy to see Luis Suarez cost Uruguay their place in the semis with that penalty miss.

In the Gold Cup, I notice Bryan Oviedo still doing a yeoman job for Costa Rica even though they lost on penalties to Mexico. I used to like Oviedo and I'll never forget his game against David Moyes's Manchester United. That double fracture was heartbreaking for him.

John Pierce
26 Posted 30/06/2019 at 21:07:58
The problem with Mina is he's erratic and unpredictable, both as a player and his temperament. If I was his centre-back partner, I'd be "What am I gonna get from him?" His propensity to lose focus in the smaller games and ‘get involved' is mistaken for leadership, when it's actually about his lack of focus.

The errors vs Millwall, the unnecessary sliding tackle on as sub vs Palace (?) ... and he loves putting his head in. Why?

Don't get me wrong: if focussed, he was great against the big guns. Good centre-backs are calm and reliable, even-tempered and consistent, and (sadly for him) robust with excellent durability. He to me is none of those things yet...

Big season for Yerry.

Brian Cleveland
27 Posted 01/07/2019 at 12:06:31
John (26)... he put his head in in the game against Chile, not sure why VAR didn't call refs attention to it. I thought it was a more aggressive movement than the one that had Richarlison sent off early last season.

Too easily wound up to be leadership material, unless he matures considerably.

I'm yet to be convinced... Why do we go for the South American centre-halves who look like bambi on ice? It was the same with Funes Morí... Just waiting for legs and arms to get tangled.

Geoff Lambert
28 Posted 01/07/2019 at 12:30:11

"Good centre-backs are calm and reliable, even-tempered and consistent."

Like Ramos and Terry you mean?

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