The government sees no rationale for cancelling sporting events yet but Premier League clubs are being advised to make contingencies for playing matches behind closed doors amid concerns over the spread of novel coronavirus.
Though the UK has reported just 319 cases of COVID-19 so far, there are fears that the government may follow Italy's lead in mandating that matches be played in front of empty stadiums.
Representatives of the top-flight clubs were summoned to a meeting held by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport today, where the assessment was that, while there is no immediate threat to Premier League games, clubs were told to make sure they are prepared.
According to The Mirror, among the other proposals discussed were less easily enforced measures like restricting attendances to set numbers and also stopping fans over the age of 70, the age group most at risk to the virus, from going to games.
A statement later from DCMS read: “Based upon the current scientific advice from the Government's medical experts, there is no rationale to close or cancel sporting events as things stand.
“We will remain in regular dialogue with sports governing bodies and broadcasters, ensuring they are in receipt of the most up-to-date guidance from the health authorities.”
Should a ban on spectators be enforced, the FA may consider lifting restrictions on live TV coverage of traditional 3pm Saturday kick-offs.
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1 Posted 09/03/2020 at 22:29:03
2 Posted 09/03/2020 at 22:31:04
3 Posted 09/03/2020 at 22:35:25
4 Posted 09/03/2020 at 22:45:03
Here in Adelaide the supermarkets are running out of toilet paper. We see people with trolleys full of the stuff. Many of the Chinese community are sending the stuff back to China, where there is a shortage apparently.
Maybe we'll see a resurgence of using what we had to do when we were kids in the 1950s - Newspaper. Just think about it - a revival of the old media?
Come to think of it, this is apt as most of it is a load of crap anyhow!
There is a good fun video on YouTube – WIE MAN MIT EINEM OHRWURM EINEN VIRUS BEKAMPFT – it's sung in English to the tune of I Can't Get No Satisfaction (The Stones).
5 Posted 09/03/2020 at 23:30:43
6 Posted 09/03/2020 at 23:42:28
Anyway, we have Cheltenham.
8 Posted 10/03/2020 at 01:24:22
Give the fans something else to look at rather than the poor performances we are being subjected too. Forget about Europe. It's time for change at 95 per cent of positions.
9 Posted 10/03/2020 at 02:11:52
2020: Coronavirus causes football to shut down; Champions – Liverpool.
1985: Liverpool caus European no-go; Champions – Everton.
1982: War in the Falklands; Champions – Liverpool.
1939: Second World War halts the Football League; Champions – Everton,
1914: First World War halts the Football League; Champions – Everton.
Is there something in the water on Merseyside?
10 Posted 10/03/2020 at 04:02:59
As for stockpiling toilet rolls, this a virus that affects your breathing so you'll have problems more with your nose than with your arse! But does this mean that rather than one being born every minute that one is dying every day?
11 Posted 10/03/2020 at 04:48:06
Supposedly, sales of Corona beer have dropped because some absolute geniuses think the beer can cause coronavirus.
I had a beer per period, three beers. Good times. Best $24 I've ever spent. Bruins won in overtime 2-1 in case you were remotely curious.
If England plays the games behind closed doors, based upon the number of cases in your country, I find that to be moving past "prudent" and into "over-reacting". And by over-reacting, I mean $8 24-ounce Corona over-reacting.
Having said that, coronavirus surely is just ramping up to a full-blown zombie apocalypse.
12 Posted 10/03/2020 at 04:51:45
Premier Hotels in NYC are down to $150/night.
Hamilton: front mezzanine $350. Me and the Mrs are off for a fancy weekend. One roll of loo paper should fund the entire expedition!
It's having a marked affect on things for sure.
13 Posted 10/03/2020 at 05:02:38
Take a look at Wall Street lately?
There's been a correction coming; it's overdue. But coronavirus might cause a full-blown recession if this continues.
And that'll trickle down. China is most affected by coronavirus to be sure (presently). Toss in an American down-tick in the economy, and guess who really gets hurt?
The poor Chinese people. We stop buying, they lose jobs. Sick, impoverished, and unemployed is a shit thing.
14 Posted 10/03/2020 at 07:27:45
The 1918 influenza pandemic killed between 15-20 MILLION people around the world, more than were killed in action during the first World War.
Even last year, flu killed over 30,000 people according to figures released by the US CDC (Centre for Disease Control).
So far, I believe we've had five deaths in the UK, not exactly epidemic proportions! All but one had existing health issues and were thus more vulnerable.
Yet, the world is going crazy, panic buying, stockpiling loo rolls, and now various governments are seriously considering banning sporting events or having them take place behind closed doors.
Have the snowflakes taken over the world? I'm sorry, but I fail to see the reasons for such a mad panic. We're nowhere near epidemic proportions, and even if we were, just keeping people away from football grounds isn't going to be the cure.
God help us if we had to go to war tomorrow. This country has totally lost its spine, its stiff-upper-lip 'Britishness'. We wouldn't stand a bleedin' chance!
15 Posted 10/03/2020 at 07:38:35
Where is the logic?
16 Posted 10/03/2020 at 07:49:21
17 Posted 10/03/2020 at 08:09:23
Yesterday, I bought the last pack of bog roll left on the shelf. This panic buying is bullshit and someones making a fortune out of it.
18 Posted 10/03/2020 at 08:13:11
Like you so succinctly say, the expected crowds at Cheltenham with no restriction, in comparison with all football matches being played behind closed doors, it defies belief almost.
I feel for one of our own, John Boon, who now lives in Canada, and has arranged to fly over with two sons for the derby, which could ostensibly be a 'non-event' — does he get compensated? I doubt it very much!
Mind you, after Sunday's debacle, most of us are not looking forward to a match that could confirm Liverpool as Champions.
19 Posted 10/03/2020 at 08:43:23
20 Posted 10/03/2020 at 08:50:45
As someone who has underlying health issues and a daughter with a chronic condition, this is no laughing matter. The UK should call off all gatherings immediately and, if the virus keeps spreading, lock down the whole country. Only when a member of the Royal family gets it will we see real action.
A virus with the potential to kill people with existing health conditions is a Tory dream – all those people who can't contribute to the wealth of the country taking a hit – just what the Tory spin doctor ordered.
21 Posted 10/03/2020 at 09:04:14
An interesting dilemma for season-ticket holders, as to whether they would try to reclaim part of the season-ticket cost and thereby contribute to their club's demise; or treat it as a sunk cost to themselves, and thereby help their club to survive.
Thoughts if this scenario were to impact on Everton? My two penneth worth? I wouldn't reclaim.
22 Posted 10/03/2020 at 09:17:43
As for sporting events or any mass gatherings – if they are not strictly necessary, then play them all behind closed doors for a few weeks The clubs make most of their money from TV anyway. In the UK, we only have a relatively small number of cases as yet, but like Italy, it could suddenly shoot upwards.
My mate here in rural Wales has to go up to London once a month for work and he works with an Italian from the Lombardy area, and the italian said that people round there ignored the warnings, determined to continue their very social lifestyle, some saying it won't happen – all media hype, and some selfish ones, saying they didn't care if a bunch of old people croaked it.
Either way, ignoring it won't stop it. The UK government only care about the economy, and will happily overlook the unnecessary fatalities as long as they can elongate the curve on the bar chart, so that the Health Service can cope over a long but less intense period.
It would (imo) be better to have a lockdown now and try to nip it in the bud. There will then be plenty of other sporting events later in the year.
23 Posted 10/03/2020 at 09:35:47
25 Posted 10/03/2020 at 09:48:10
The whole health service is operating at 200% capacity and it is generally reckoned that Italy has a very good health service. People at ground floor level are talking about chaos and now a lot of the healthcare professionals are becoming ill.
It will take a miracle for the same thing not to be duplicated in the UK.
26 Posted 10/03/2020 at 09:57:53
27 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:07:55
Most of the over-70s have fought for their countries: Vietnam vets, Afghanistan, Falklands etc., I'm sure this virus is the last thing on most of their minds. Most people I have seen wearing masks seem to be younger than 70... for fuck's sake, have a bit of common sense!
28 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:15:26
29 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:21:14
30 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:24:50
Politicians creating panic.
31 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:30:03
On Facebook the other day, I saw that someone was asking £350 for hand sanitizer. It's a shame that some people's first thought is to profit on the back of this virus, it looks really scary what's going on in Italy.
32 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:34:17
33 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:34:20
34 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:41:41
Correct. See a photo at this link.
Note the red fencing.
It was a Liverpool v Man Utd game in the 1970s.
35 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:44:04
36 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:45:08
37 Posted 10/03/2020 at 10:56:15
38 Posted 10/03/2020 at 11:28:30
Hit the nail on the head right there.
39 Posted 10/03/2020 at 11:45:22
40 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:00:26
41 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:00:33
Whereas Germany aren't at the moment considering playing any of their clubs' games behind closed doors, or making any restrictions in movement. And they have far more confirmed cases than the UK.
42 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:13:20
43 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:27:27
Really informative article in todays Guardian about this. It reckons that someone with this, tends to infect two other people on average, and also most infections tend to be passed on in families.
Early on it is similar to flu, and its thought that this confusion explains why they were so slow catching on in Italy. About 80% of cases are extremely mild and some are not picked up. This is why early estimates of mortality might have been overstated.
It dispels a few myths, and worth a read. It doesnt underplay the seriousness of it either.
Its also saying that food bank donations are plummeting, in some areas by 75%, because of hoarding.
44 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:31:11
45 Posted 10/03/2020 at 12:48:33
46 Posted 10/03/2020 at 13:01:58
Yes, we are more prepared than Italy as governments across the world put measures in place. However, they are in the dark on how many people will become ill. Please do not think mass gatherings at football grounds won't put numbers up. Let's not encourage the virus to spread. As we know, human beings are inherently selfish with their own behaviour. Governments need to protect everyone.
It's only a game!!
47 Posted 10/03/2020 at 13:12:49
And would cause hysterical laughter across the entire country as the whining RS get a splendid bit of karma payback.
48 Posted 10/03/2020 at 13:29:05
A friend has a brother in London who is a hospital consultant and he told my friend that we (the public) don't know the half of it. The government are worried about panicking the populace.
49 Posted 10/03/2020 at 13:38:57
If the Government allow life to continue as normal they run the risk of increased infection rates and the possibility of overwhelming the hospitals. It's not an easy call to make and I'm glad it's not my decision to make.
50 Posted 10/03/2020 at 13:55:08
In my case, I am flying home to Liverpool from Canada with my son, John "Everton", and my son-in-law, Dan. We all want a Blue win, despite the challenge, as well as the virus. Everton seem to have had a virus all season. My son will also be celebrating his 50th birthday while I will be celebrating just being able to be at Goodison Park. So PLEASE let the game go on.
To a regular ToffeeWebber, John McFarlane. Hope to see you and any other true Blues on Tuesday 17 March at the Central Hotel at 12.00 noon. This will make our one week fly over worthwhile, hopefully with two more points
51 Posted 10/03/2020 at 14:27:52
I understand the calls for caution. It makes sense. But the reaction is completely over the top. The numbers simply dont justify it. The response from the powers-that-be is one of fear. They dont know how to combat this, ergo, theyre scared of the consequences.
Wash you hands kids, and pray for calm and good health.
Play the games. Dont do it behind closed doors. Were not there yet, and the evidence is we will never be there. China is already showing receding, and Korea is the same. This, like all things, will pass. Keep that economy going and dump some serious money into R&D in case it rears its ugly head again.
53 Posted 10/03/2020 at 14:40:49
54 Posted 10/03/2020 at 14:51:47
55 Posted 10/03/2020 at 15:11:40
Im with you in my astonishment at some of the nonsense and over reaction going on. Similar happened with SARS and Ebola and neither of those achieved the levels forecast, but Im tending towards caution on this. The Head of Public Health here has just said that the peak in the UK wont START for another fortnight.
Ive been amazed that the main panic merchants have been health professionals, both here and WHO. This has fed into everything else. Bog rolls and FTSE alike!
56 Posted 10/03/2020 at 15:13:54
Unless severely asthmatic or pensioner or child another respiratory or severe illness, coronavirus will have little impact other than flu symptoms. Issue is panic by some due to overhype by the media which leaves any government no option but to react and plan.
59 Posted 10/03/2020 at 15:32:31
I have this sense the EPL are trying to get the RS over the line before delaying/cancelling any games.
60 Posted 10/03/2020 at 15:38:07
Now we are being told how to wash our hands.
61 Posted 10/03/2020 at 15:39:04
62 Posted 10/03/2020 at 16:29:30
63 Posted 10/03/2020 at 16:42:41
64 Posted 10/03/2020 at 17:13:23
Difficult to know. I'm a bit of a semi-panic merchant here. I don't take it too seriously, but I'm making sure my family do.
65 Posted 10/03/2020 at 17:21:05
It's not panic, it's sensible. I mentioned previously I went to South Florida to see the Bruins play the Panthers (NHL).
I had my 10 year old wash his hands like 6 to 7 times throughout the course of the game. That's basic, intelligent stuff.
Making sure your family is safe is like Dad job #1 for me. It's not illogical. You're just hedging your bets for what matters most.
68 Posted 10/03/2020 at 17:31:23
69 Posted 10/03/2020 at 17:45:27
What song do we wash our hands to folks?!
72 Posted 10/03/2020 at 17:53:20
79 Posted 10/03/2020 at 18:07:14
88 Posted 10/03/2020 at 18:54:01
And remind people about the Russia Report, about £130bn and counting for Brexit and Johnson's corrupt dealings. That is why this ridiculous panic is being perpetrated by the media.
And wash your hands.
And if, like me, you had a shocker at Cheltenham, there's three days left, so keep swinging!
89 Posted 10/03/2020 at 19:29:29
90 Posted 10/03/2020 at 19:42:43
91 Posted 10/03/2020 at 19:43:39
There are a huge number of issues associated with ending the season, which can't be wiped out with one wide brushstroke.
One thing to note on all of this, is that the UK is on the brink of moving from the current 'Containment' stage, to the second phase which is the 'Delay' phase. This involves "social-distancing" tactics such as closing schools, postponing or cancelling large-scale gatherings and encouraging people to work from home. Much of this is highly likely to happen in the coming days as the rate the virus is spreading is still increasing.
Look at Italy, they had 168 deaths in the last 24 hrs, Iran 54 over the same 24 hrs. It hasn't reached peak yet, so sport will have to fall in line with the above phases of dealing with it whether we, or anyone who runs a football club likes it.
The next 2 phases are "research" and "mitigate". The UK is readying itself to attempt to stop it reaching it's peak until the summer. That's a few months away, so this is likely to be a longer haul than people realise based on figures. If we reach the "mitigate" phase that means you could see Police only being allowed to work on major crimes, and you'll likely see the army on the streets controlling movement. Football will simply have to stop in my view - if we reach these points.
The way it's spreading and the way in which it's dealt with now, have a massive impact on the longevity, and severity of it. The bottom line is that this is not driven by football, nor is it driven by sport or large-scale social gatherings on the whole. It's driven by the phases and the advice of the WHO and others who are trying to control this on a world scale. Unfortunate as it could be, small football clubs going out of business are really not the point in any of this.
Disclaimer: I am not your average toilet roll buying scaremonger, and this is a worst case scenario (probably).
92 Posted 10/03/2020 at 19:58:20
It's incredibly irresponsible in my opinion.
93 Posted 10/03/2020 at 19:59:59
The UN estimates around 25,000 people die EACH DAY from starvation.
As starvation doesn't affect the wealthy, it's not seen as an issue!
94 Posted 10/03/2020 at 20:14:53
Here's hoping anyway... and, in the meantime, it's more of the 20-second shuffles under a hot tap.
95 Posted 10/03/2020 at 20:46:01
96 Posted 10/03/2020 at 20:58:11
97 Posted 10/03/2020 at 22:11:01
I'd love to see a game like that now. Imagine the derby: Schneiderlin jumping in like Sandy Brown on Henderson. Or Sigurdsson sorting out Johnny Morrisey style on Van Dijk.
Yeah... 'Imagine' is about right.
98 Posted 10/03/2020 at 23:11:37
99 Posted 11/03/2020 at 04:10:09
100 Posted 11/03/2020 at 06:47:30
101 Posted 11/03/2020 at 06:50:40
If using water, best it be hot, as mentioned earlier by a TW poster, the virus don't like it hot!
102 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:06:38
The reality is that NHS ITUs won't be able to cope. NHS critical care runs at an average of 60-70% occupancy anyway so imagine if we get serious cases on the scale of Italy. There won't be enough specialist equipment such as respirators to cope with the needs of the seriously ill.
Be good if fans were banned from events then Sky out of goodwill made Football broadcasting free online for all matches whilst the ban was in place.
On the plus side, the Liverpool victory parade will be cancelled.
103 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:11:39
104 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:14:08
It looks obvious to me that the only thing that's going to contain this virus in certain geographical areas is to shut everything down for a while, read PH@37, and the more I think about Madrid moving towards lockdown, but their fans are travelling to this city to watch their team play, then this is why this virus is not currently being contained.
Haven't heard from Mike G, for a few days on TW, and I hope it's because he's got nothing to say (very unusual,) and his family are all still fine stuck in China.
105 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:26:39
"Atletico Madrid will refund fans who have purchased tickets for Wednesday's Champions League game at Liverpool but decide not to attend.
The move comes after advice given to the club related to the coronavirus outbreak from the Spanish government, which does not recommend travel from Madrid and considers it “irresponsible behaviour to go against this directive."
"In a statement on their official website, Atletico told supporters that Uefa, along with authorities in Liverpool, confirmed the last-16 match – into which Diego Simeone's men carry a 1-0 first-leg advantage – would go ahead as planned and be open to both sets of supporters."
So Uefa and "the authorities in Liverpool" know better than the Spanish government, it appears.
106 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:28:11
107 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:30:27
One can only hope.
108 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:38:33
109 Posted 11/03/2020 at 08:41:47
Apparently Uefa are seriously considering putting back the European Championship from this summer to next, thereby allowing extra time for clubs to fulfill their domestic fixtures.
110 Posted 11/03/2020 at 09:52:50
111 Posted 11/03/2020 at 09:56:58
112 Posted 11/03/2020 at 10:43:21
As Guardiola says, this game is all about the fans turning up and watching their teams play, and if that's not possible, then postpone rather than play behind closed doors.
The government health officials are estimating that the peak of the virus in this country will happen within the next 2 weeks, so it seems that, if we don't stop large gatherings now, in a week or 10 days, it might be too late to delay the contagion.
113 Posted 11/03/2020 at 10:50:13
114 Posted 11/03/2020 at 11:33:02
115 Posted 11/03/2020 at 11:41:33
116 Posted 11/03/2020 at 11:42:35
Somebody please start to talk some sense on this!!!!
117 Posted 11/03/2020 at 11:59:04
Dave Abrahams, keep yer distance in the Upper Bullens.
118 Posted 11/03/2020 at 12:07:11
119 Posted 11/03/2020 at 12:16:39
To be honest I'll abide any suggestions that keep this infection down. I think most people will be sensible and use the advice of specialist medical people that helps to get us through this situation. It is very worrying but it is best to stay calm and not get paranoid over this virus.
120 Posted 11/03/2020 at 12:18:28
121 Posted 11/03/2020 at 12:23:28
"I think most people will be sensible and use the advice of specialist medical people that helps to get us through this situation."
The voice of reason, as ever.
122 Posted 11/03/2020 at 12:50:02
As for the game, well, after last Sunday I lost hope. One more trashing coming up, unless we sign Billy Gilmour! Who said you can't run a midfield in the Premier League without being a swole motherlicka? The kid looks like he's 14!
123 Posted 11/03/2020 at 13:04:44
124 Posted 11/03/2020 at 13:24:42
Arsenal played us on the 23rd... should Everton not be self-isolating as well?
125 Posted 11/03/2020 at 13:42:52
126 Posted 11/03/2020 at 14:07:55
If, after the Liverpool vs Atletico Madrid game is over and a couple of cases come up, you can bet that the derby game will behind closed doors.
127 Posted 11/03/2020 at 14:22:46
I think they should be hosed down with bleach on arrival and made to sit in their underpants with their faces covered with royal blue masks. And every time they sing that dirge, they should be showered with ice cold piss.
128 Posted 11/03/2020 at 14:53:47
You can bet your life had the shite won the first leg one-nil at home and tonight's games would have been in Madrid, it would have been played behind closed doors.
The FA are praying Man City slip up and the Premier League gets wrapped up quickly. I know there are other spots near the top or bottom as important, but the FA, media and Sky want their darlings crowned Champions before a possibility of a shutdown.
129 Posted 11/03/2020 at 15:41:09
130 Posted 11/03/2020 at 16:07:36
The authorities in this country are clearly not even slightly serious about trying to contain Covid-19, so why all the fuss about washing hands and self-isolating? What's the point of self-isolating when thousands of people are being encouraged to fly in from a virus hot-spot and mingle with the locals?
131 Posted 11/03/2020 at 16:10:56
Any supporter from Liverpool that stood in the Kop is used to being pissed on. Another thing that makes me laugh is they are asking the supporters to follow personal hygiene when they use the toilets... I guess they don't live in the real world.
133 Posted 11/03/2020 at 17:48:31
134 Posted 11/03/2020 at 18:20:30
135 Posted 11/03/2020 at 22:45:58
136 Posted 11/03/2020 at 22:55:49
That kept me going for much of the day, couldn't wipe the smirk off my face talk about take the edge off the celebrations. :)
137 Posted 11/03/2020 at 23:00:48
138 Posted 11/03/2020 at 23:58:01
You can't even have closed-door games if they're televised. Imagine being in pubs around the city for the derby. Packed pubs are probably a bigger breeding ground for the virus than being at the ground.
139 Posted 11/03/2020 at 00:02:33
140 Posted 12/03/2020 at 00:13:35
141 Posted 12/03/2020 at 00:44:26
"I certainly couldn't watch a derby match in a pub with RS there. I'd be arrested!!"
Time to self-quarantine Rob before the bizzies do!
142 Posted 12/03/2020 at 00:46:10
143 Posted 12/03/2020 at 00:57:22
How they will manage that I have not got a clue.
144 Posted 12/03/2020 at 02:41:57
Tonight the NBA season was suspended indefinitely because a top player, Rudy Gobert of Utah, was diagnosed with the coronavirus.
March Madness, the annual college basketball tournament, will be March Muted because all games will be played in empty arenas.
Tom Hanks came down with the virus in Australia. And my choir has suspended operations, perhaps for the season, because rehearsal was too much of a health risk.
If the Premier League season gets cancelled, I give up.
145 Posted 12/03/2020 at 02:48:06
I noticed Mike G has been a little quiet too. The bruises on my arse are starting to heal without him kicking it. Hopefully he's simply taken to the beach to psych himself up or Monday.
Best wishes to you and yours, Mike, if you are logged on.
146 Posted 12/03/2020 at 02:49:59
147 Posted 12/03/2020 at 02:57:38
I've just been looking at the exponential growth in cases on the WHO website. We all know what a nightmare Italy is going through and their health staff must be exhausted as they have a exponential growth rate in cases of 4 days which is a doubling of cases every 4 days. This means the 10k they have now could be 320,000 in 20 days, lets hope their belated measures interrupt the spread.
This is why we need to lock down now. The UK also has a 4 day growth rate. Spain's cases are doubling every 2 days.
China only slowed the growth rate by locking down which explains the actions of Italy. China now have a growth rate of 30 days, they have some control now and we have a long way to go. If we do not act now we will be where Italy is today with 12,000 cases by the beginning of April. If we are not then we have managed to slow the growth.
148 Posted 12/03/2020 at 03:09:22
Now if I can just get my family home, everything will be hunkydory.
149 Posted 12/03/2020 at 06:52:46
150 Posted 12/03/2020 at 07:44:58
151 Posted 12/03/2020 at 08:14:41
During the game, there was a mini-altercation between Trent Arnold and an Atletico player following a rash tackle by the former, and the usual simulated head rutting ensued between the two. Again well within the one metre parameter.
Mike G, I was curious as to your absence from TW, you have been missed, sorry to hear your wife is still not re-united with you mate. Hopefully sense and sensibility will replace downright panic sooner rather than later.
152 Posted 12/03/2020 at 09:22:34
153 Posted 12/03/2020 at 09:27:59
154 Posted 12/03/2020 at 10:12:15
Do you think it was the Tom Hanks story that pushed Donald Trump over the edge?
155 Posted 12/03/2020 at 12:38:50
That clip is fantastic. I watched last night, extremely informative.
Is it just me, or does anyone feel the data just isn't there to justify this reaction? I'm NOT trying to dismiss this, and yes, I understand the virus can spread and we are closer to the beginning, rather than the end.
It just seems like a sensationalist, wild reaction.
In the end, my thoughts are: even if it is, if it keeps people more healthy and more safe, so be it.
156 Posted 12/03/2020 at 15:10:55
I hope they do it before Monday... we will get battered anyway. So watch the news in the next couple of hours for the government announcement.
157 Posted 12/03/2020 at 19:29:11
158 Posted 12/03/2020 at 19:42:00
I'll raise my odds of no more football this season to 90:10.
Looks like the RS will miss out on winning the Premier League by about 4 days. Oh well, never mind.
159 Posted 12/03/2020 at 19:43:18
160 Posted 13/03/2020 at 09:54:00
161 Posted 13/03/2020 at 09:59:03
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