Ancelotti backs under-fire Sigurdsson

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Carlo Ancelotti has refused to criticise Gylfi Sigurdsson following his performance against Tottenham on Monday, insisting that the Iceland skipper is a “great professional”.

Sky Sports analyst Gary Neville echoed the feelings of many Evertonians when he laid into Sigurdsson during the match commentary of the Toffees' 1-0 defeat for an anaemic display in the centre of midfield during which he failed to put in a single tackle in his time on the pitch.

It's not the first time that Sigurdsson has attracted the ire of supporters — he was roundly criticised for an anonymous display in the FA Cup against a much-weakened Liverpool team where he failed to touch the ball for 19 minutes despite playing in a similarly important role in the middle of the park.

Ancelotti, who dropped Sigurdsson for the Merseyside derby last month but is not one for criticising players in public, backed the 30-year-old, however, in his pre-match press conference ahead of tomorrow's visit of Southampton.

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“I'm not used to criticising players in a press conference,” the Italian said. “I didn't see that he didn't put a tackle in.

“Gylfi's a professional player, 100 per cent. He can play good, he can play bad. We cannot discuss him as a professional. He's a great professional.

“Maybe he could do better but against Tottenham all the team could do better. Now is not the time to analyse the game against Tottenham.

“I already talked to the players. The game against Tottenham has gone. I also said to the players it is time to move to the next game which is an important game against a strong team.”

Everton's lack of options in central midfield mean that Sigurdsson will almost certainly be involved in some capacity against Southampton. Fabian Delph and Jean-Philippe Gbamin are injured, Alex Iwobi is a doubt with a hamstring strain and Mason Holgate, who filled in in midfield admirably in December under interim boss, Duncan Ferguson, is ruled out with a shin injury.

Beni Baningime, an unused substitute thus far, has first-team experience but has yet to be called upon by Ancelotti.

 

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Bill Watson
1 Posted 08/07/2020 at 17:57:11
Good grief!
Surely Sigurdsson won't start the next game? A blow up doll would be more effective as Southampton would, at least, have to go around it!
Mike Corcoran
2 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:08:18
Just about enough bodies to go 442 with rich and Gordon on the wings. Davies, Beni or Gomes to take the centre and Dcl and Kean up top. Scraping the barrel though
Stephen Brown
3 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:08:33
Delph is even more infuriating in my book! Is he ever available ? Has he done anything for us ?
Mike Corcoran
4 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:09:43
If even chance Baines in centre mid at the moment
Colin Glassar
5 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:21:42
Iwobi has a hamstring? I thought his legs were made out of candy floss.
Steve Ferns
6 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:49:23
Sorry but forget Baines as a centre mid. It was a half baked idea by Martinez that he tried once and it failed. Baines has no pace anymore. He can’t do what we need. He’s played there once and he’s 36. It’s never ever going to happen.

As for Beni Baningime, why not skip him and go to the future and have Tyler Onyango a game? He’s tall, he’s neat and tidy. He’s not particularly fast but he’s faster than what we have there. He likes a tackle and can get stuck in. Let’s give the kid a game at Goodison under the lights but without a crowd.

Bill Gienapp
7 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:50:16
Stephen (3) - What a whiff of a signing Delph has been. I (tentatively) bought into the hope of him having a Gareth Barry type impact, but he keeps getting these niggling injuries that take twice as long to heal and hasn't even been that effective on the pitch when healthy. Worse, he was supposed to bring leadership and a championship winning mentality (something we desperately need), but he's probably been our most childish player.

As for Siggy, I have no idea what's happened to him this season. I could forgive a lot if he was at least pulling the odd goal out of his butt, but even that aspect of his game has dried up.

Tony Everan
8 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:52:04

Time to try something different in midfield, we can’t go on flogging a dead horse.

Pickford
Seamus Keane Mina Digne
Davies Beni Gomes Gordon
Richie DCL

Gives me more confidence than the Tottenham starting 11.


Steve Ferns
9 Posted 08/07/2020 at 18:54:37
Tony, Beni Baningime was not good enough for Wigan and no one wanted to loan him in the last two windows. None of our managers have played him for over two years. Why do you think he’s good enough for us?
Mike Corcoran
10 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:15:46
Steve Ferns at 6 - I’m clutching at straws when it comes to centre mid. Baines would still be an option just to add a bit of yes I’m fecking arsed to the middle of the pitch
Jim Bennings
11 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:19:10
The calls for Baningime seem pointless.

How old is he, his career hasn't even took off since the debut three years ago, snubbed by different management and if he can't break into our pathetic midfield then he must have major problems himself.

I'm surprised Carlo has come out though and defended Gylfi, a player that endlessly shits out of tackles and just ambles around the pitch like a unwanted ghost doesn't deserve a mention.

Mind you he's not the only one is he?

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:26:02
Steve #9, amen.
Mike Doyle
13 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:28:15
Nothing to get excited about I know. but. is Besic back with us - and an available option?
I think he got a couple of appearances for Sheff Utd during the proper season - and should be match fit-ish.
Surely a (slightly) better option than Beni?
Steve Ferns
14 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:31:31
Mike he’s not eligible for the reasons as Bolasie.
Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:34:36
Beni Banginime has had a few injuries, that is why his career has stalled, he has had a decent run towards the end of the U23’s season, let’s see what he can do.

I’m surprised at you Steve ( Ferns) preferring the very young and vastly inexperienced Onyango to Beni, especially at this time, Beni deserves his chance now, Onyango ‘s time will come he’s only seventeen.

Mark Andersson
16 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:36:06
Carlo is a good manager so if course he is not going to criticize a player in public

Lets see if the players react after the Spurs game.. sadly I don't think they will.

The season was over before the restart..

Tony Everan
17 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:36:28
Steve, I am clutching at straws for someone/ anyone on our books in there to try to compliment Gomes so that he can be more influential. I don't know much at all about Onyango but even he may be a better fit than Sigurdsson playing alongside Gomes. How optimistic are you about the young lad?
Steve Ferns
18 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:40:02
Dave, he wasn’t injured at Wigan. He was poor and got dropped. There was no injuries listed anywhere for him during that loan spell. Cook even said he was fit but that the relegation dog fight they were in didn’t suit him. The fact that he was not good enough for a scrap says a lot. He came back fit and they tried to loan him last summer. Then they tried to loan him in January. There was no takers. There’s rumours about his attitude, but I’ve no idea how true they are.

So yes, I’d rather than a 17 year old with potential than a 21 year old who hasn’t played a game for two years and is unable to pull his finger out and get himself a game. A failure to be loaned out tells you that he refused to drop low enough to get a game. That speaks volumes for me. Also, the 17 year old is bigger and stronger than him.

Steve Ferns
19 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:50:29
Tony, it’s difficult not to get carried away. Due to his size, position and skin colour, and the way he moves about the pitch, the obvious comparison is Patrick Vieira. The skies the limit for him. Truth be told though, he’s hot and cold for the u23s and can find it hard when the tempo increases. Which means he’s a long way off a premier league game. That said, I’d play him ahead of Baningime who will be ejected at the end of the season for sure. Adeniran has failed to grasp his chance having been in the first team squad all season. The only other options are Iversen and Markelo. Iversen is only 18 and I don’t think he’ll make it. Markelo is more likely to end up at right back.
Daniel A Johnson
20 Posted 08/07/2020 at 19:52:36
Sigurdsson's last match was a stinker but I also remember him winning the match for us against Leicester and Man U with moments of genius.

It seems now Schneiderlin has gone the boo boys need a new focus. Looks like Sigurdsson and Davies are now sharing that mantle.

Agree that Delph has infuriated more than Siggy, what a waste of money and wages Delph ahs been.

Stephen Brown
21 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:10:29
Bill #7 and Daniel #20,

Yes, Delph has offered nothing but a very big ego and a lot of ‘mouth' on the very odd appearance.

Are these injuries partly in his head?? Is there a lack of focus warming up?

We really could do with an England international, title-winning midfielder right now!! Oh, we have one?! But he never plays... and when he does, it almost feels like he thinks he's doing us a favour!!

Very disappointed with him even more so than the ever present (underperforming) Sigurdsson!

Dave Abrahams
22 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:14:10
Steve (18), as a matter of fact Steve, Paul Cook thought Beni was a good player, you are correct he wasn't injured at Wigan, I never said he was; I said he has suffered a few injuries. The reason Cook never played him at Wigan was Wigan were in a fight against relegation and he preferred more experienced players to get them out of trouble which they did.

Steve you prefer a player who blows hot and cold in the U23s and put him in a team that is struggling in midfield.

By the way I've never noticed or heard that Beni has an attitude problem, he just gets on with the game every time I've seen him, but I bet we are debating two players who won't play tomorrow, but I'll bet you a penny that Beni gets on the bench before you're boy!!.,

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:20:44
Dave, Paul Cook's comments were very diplomatic. Why was the uninjured Baningime never even on the bench for Wigan? I can only go off second-hand rumours from Wigan fans, but how does a player who is a tackler not have the stomach for a Championship relegation battle (and it was only February when he was dropped) when he was playing Premier League games just 6 months before? Whilst Cook said he did well, the Wigan fans were scathing of his only game.

A loan move to Brondby fell through last summer and no-one wanted him despite Unsworth saying he was getting a loan sorted after he overcame an injury against Fleetwood last October when he looked decent against League One opposition.

And of course he'll get on the bench. There's no-one else and it's between him and Adeniran and the latter has no Premier League experience. But it'll be Sigurdsson who plays ahead of Baningime every time. No matter how bad he is.

Brent Stephens
24 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:23:27
Steve, you'd play Onyango before Beni in the first team at the moment?! Onyango is one for the future but not yet. Beni has been a shoo-in for the U23s this season while Onyango has warmed the bench more. And, as Dave says, never heard Beni having an attitude problem – if he has, then it's not been on the pitch for our U23s. Steptoe deserves a chance.
Rob Halligan
25 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:32:16
Talk about playing Baines in midfield appears to be a no from some, but could Digne play there and put Baines at left-back?

Pickford.
Coleman, Keane, Mina, Baines.
Gordon, Gomes, Davies, Digne.
Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison.

Steve Ferns
26 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:37:03
Brent, I'm just fed up of the constant demands to stick a player in the team based on how good he was over two years ago with complete disregard for everything that happened to him since. Baningime has only played 13 games for the U23s. He's not shone in the last games and, for my money, struggled as the team took a nose-dive before the season was cancelled.

He's not good enough. It doesn't matter how bad Sigurdsson is, Baningime is not the answer. It'll take a miracle for him to play a game for us next season or beyond. He might get in with an injury or two more this season, but he'd have to play out of his skin to stay and nothing he's done this season suggests that.

Onyango has far more chance of playing for Everton's first team, even if he's probably two years away. I'd rather go with the future than yesterday's man.

Joe McMahon
27 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:39:48
Crap aint it, here we are talking about Baines in midfield, and the champions and our fave team are 2 up in less than 10 minutes.
Stephen Brown
28 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:41:59
If Baningime cannot be trusted to take the place of any of these totally underperforming midfield, what is the point in having him on the bench, paying him a wage or keeping another player out of the U23 team. May as well pay him off if he's not an option!

Nothing to lose, give him a go?! Cannot be worse than the performance from Monday?! If not now, when?

Brent Stephens
29 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:42:06
Steve you misrepresent my stance as I’m not arguing for Beni to have a run based on 2 years ago but on what I saw of him in the U23s games this season. I’m clutching at straws that maybe, just maybe, he could make an impact. But it’s pure speculation and opinion my part.

Looks as if we’re closer in views on Onyango though!

Steve Ferns
30 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:44:48
Not you, Brent, others. All based on a run of games that were actually 2½ years ago now. Baningime's Everton future is non-existent as if he's in the U23s next season, he's harming Onyango's development. He will be sold, loaned or released this summer for sure.
Brent Stephens
31 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:54:38
Okay, Steve, let's look forward to Onyango!
Christy Ring
32 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:55:02
Delph still injured, but he was the same at City, even though he still got little game time, a shocking signing by Brands, as was Iwobi. I hope Iwobi is out for tomorrow night and Sigurdsson shouldn't even make the bench

Let's be honest, Carlo was never going to criticise him in public, but he subbed him after running half the pitch beside Moura, without even breathing on him!

I hope he picks Baningime beside Davies in midfield. I don't know what happened between Beni and Paul Cook; Paul managed Sligo Rovers over here in Ireland for 5 years, and a nicer fellow you wouldn't meet, and he definitely wasn't injured. But Unsy said he was back to himself for the U23s, it can only be an improvement, on our midfield performance at Spurs.

Annika Herbert
33 Posted 08/07/2020 at 20:55:02
Daniel @20, Sigurdsson's moments of genius are well and truly in the rear-view mirror and I very much doubt we will see anymore from him.

He is getting stick, along with several others fully deserving of it, because he has been dire all season. Whatever qualities he had, they are long gone now.

Tony Everan
34 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:03:22
Shame Mason Holgate is injured, would have been an ideal option play him as the defensive midfielder alongside Gomes tomorrow.

But I have to agree, Sigurdsson will be starting and Carlo will be using his experience to try and get some more out of him. It worries me though, no tackle at all from a central midfielder in the last match. How many tackles would Gana have made in the same match? 10-20?

These are the tackles that win possession back, the ball gets to Gomes, the opposition are out of formation and Gomes has got that tiny amount of time and space to create an attack.

This is the reason why Sigurdsson doesn’t cut the mustard in any respect as a central midfielder. It is the reason why it is no1 critical we have to have that ball winning, tackling, enforcer player in.

Getting that midfielder in will give us the real Gomes back too and get the midfield functioning again.

It is so important a position that we need quality back up there too, someone young with bags of potential like Sangare. We cannot rely on Delph at all, and Gbamin, who knows?

Dave Abrahams
35 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:18:24
Steve (23), I don't know if Paul Cook's words were diplomatic or not, I never heard them, it was Paul Cook's brother who relayed those compliments to someone I know, Beni was there a few months and Wigan's manager would see him every day to form that opinion.
Steve Ferns
36 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:23:39
Dave any insight as to why he didn’t play him then? He didn’t even get on the bench after that first game and he said he wasn’t injured. It’s a very bizarre situation for Cook, praise a player but don’t pick him and say he isn’t injured he’s just not suited to a relegation scrap.
Dave Abrahams
37 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:39:28
Steve (36), well I thought I explained in my post (22), Paul Cook preferred more experienced players because Wigan were in a relegation fight and they helped Wigan to stay up. Obviously Paul looked after his job.
Dan Nulty
38 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:42:24
Just been told we have been linked with Lingard. If we sign him I'm done with Everton.
Robert Tressell
39 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:50:25
Debating the merits of Baines, Beni or Onyango in midfield - with all of us rueing the fact that Besic is unavailable. What has it come to?
Colin Glassar
40 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:50:27
Snap Dan
Steve Ferns
41 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:50:52
But Dave, we are talking about Beni Baningime here, not Kieran Dowell. He's a defensive midfielder. One who had played 8 premier league games and was highly touted at that time. A player praised for his tackling and willingness to get stuck in. A good short passer of the ball with quick feet and able to drive a team up the pitch. It's just what they needed. Yet he played one game and never even made the bench again.

He wasn't injured and as you say, and as reported at the time, Cook says he went with the more experienced guys as he didn't think Baningime was ready for the fight (from the middle of February all the way until the end of the season).

And now this kid, who is weeks short of joining Tom Davies's age of 22, and hasn't played a first team game since, is good enough to play for our first team?

Nope. Sorry, don't buy it. He has clearly taken a wrong turn in his career and has gone backwards and only makes the bench as there is no other fit midfielder with first team experience.

Tony Everan
42 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:53:22
Dan 38. As it’s not April 1st, any such rumours scare me.
Joe McMahon
43 Posted 08/07/2020 at 21:57:45
Steve @41, your last sentence is just not true, as John Oster and Scott Spencer are still on the books.
Jason Li
44 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:00:04
Like Carlo, I'm just waiting for the season to end. Even Carlo doesn't want to play ultra defensive every game.

But what can he do? We don't have a rapid midfielder that can carry the ball 30 yards and not lose it. I'm thinking Kaka or Gazza or De Bruyne or Hazard. Nothing in this squad, apart from Gordon.

So we stay compact to ensure there's no big gaps if the midfield stray too far from the back four for the last few games, suck eggs, and hope Gordon, or Digne, or one of our forwards has some magic moments.

Next season, when we get two or three players that can drive forward and get back very quickly into formation, we'll be much more expansive. At the moment, Carlo can only play what he's got to choose from.

I'm relaxed about it, it's only a few more matches of seeing frustrating bad decisions from previous managers affecting our club until this season is done. From September, I'm pretty sure we'll be full of hope when Carlo gets the recruitment done and the balance right.

Robert Tressell
45 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:02:07
All of you please stop. I feel like crying. First a flashback to Martinez's "Baines is the new Lahm" monologue, then use of the word Besic in the context of our first team... and then a rumour that we're going to sign Lingard. Please God let the 2020-21 season bring some salvation.
Rob Halligan
46 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:04:11
Dan # 38. Add Phil Jones to Lingard.
Ian Bennett
47 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:16:01
"Football was never the same for me after I left Everton and although I always wanted to win, losing never really seemed to hurt anymore."

Kevin Ratcliffe

Seems the reverse at L4 currently.

Steve Ferns
48 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:19:22
Rob, don't worry. I hear Everton are in for an Italian playing for Roma called Cristoforo Piccolino (translates to small in English!). He's on loan from Man Utd and Roma can't afford him in the post-Covid world, so he's all ours.
Rob Halligan
49 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:34:29
Phil Jones and Chris Smalling, our new centre-back pairing for next season, along with Jesse in centre-mid. Richarlison and Mason Holgate move to Man Utd as part of the deal, plus £50M. God help us, Steve. 😁😁😁
Paul Birmingham
50 Posted 08/07/2020 at 22:43:07
We are scrapping the barrel, putting out a midfield and it will be a very tough game.

I reckon Carlo will know the weakness and the imbalance through the spine of this team as witnessed oat Spurs.

Hopefully Anthony Gordon can start and Carlo can find a balance to prevent us getting over run in the midfield.

Interesting to see whom starts surely it won’t be a repeat of the crapfest served up at Spurs.

If the players have any pride then they’ll want to make amends tomorrow night.

If Hoelberg plays it will also be interesting to see how’s he’s playing.

Hopefully this time Thursday night, we will be on higher spirits regards EFC

NB surely the rumours about Lingaard, are pure rubbish?

Sam Hoare
51 Posted 08/07/2020 at 23:07:33
Can we play Carlo himself in the middle? He was pretty decent back in the day!

In all seriousness I think it has to be Davies and Sigurdsson, which is hard for me to write but Gomes is knackered and Beni must be poor in training or we'd have seen him get a few minutes by now.

Unpopular fact: If Delph were fully fit, he would be our best centre-midfield at the moment. Losing him and Gbamin for pretty much the whole season has been instrumental in our pourous midfield.

Fraser Auld
52 Posted 08/07/2020 at 00:17:32
Carlo's hardly going to say “you're right, Sigurduson's utter bollocks”, even if that's what he thinks.

Maybe he is a great pro, doesn't really matter if you can't do it when you cross the white line though.

We don't have any options so it'll be two from Gomes, Davies or Sigurdsson, whether we like it or not.

On a brighter note, Ancellotti was saying in his press conference today that he's had assurances from Farhad there'll be cash available this window. Just get to the end of this season and pray that midfield gets an overhaul for the new season.

Andrew Dempsey
54 Posted 09/07/2020 at 01:07:34
I just can't believe we're not using this time to get certain players up to maximum fitness, eg, Moise Kean.

We've not seen him at 100% yet, the final judgement on him should at least be when we've seen him at full sharpness for us, for at least ten consecutive games.

As for midfield, what's Bobby Carroll like? Thought of very highly at Doncaster. Just throw an 18-year-old with energy in there, I say. Why not?

Bernard's counsellor is actress Lorraine Bracco, apparently. According to Buzzfeed.

Derek Thomas
55 Posted 09/07/2020 at 01:11:46
Stephen @ 3; What's Delph done? open your eyes mate, OPTA tells us that Delph has never failed to collect his wages every week...his stats are up there with the best in the Premier League.

Edit; Sam @ 51; I think my stat above proves that stats can prove anything. My conclusion is we haven't got a decent midfield player in the Club.

We have plenty of individuals in poor form in this position or that one.

But, as I have been saying for ages, we don't have a midfield unit.

Kieran Kinsella
56 Posted 09/07/2020 at 01:13:16
Sam Hoare

Such is our predicament that I'm taking your suggestion seriously and saying yes to Carlo in midfield. By his own admission, he was slow, and chubby in his prime. Looks to me like he's still in his prime. I think Osman is still considering his options too and not officially retired. Bring him back too and all the fans who slated him for years can weep when they see he's better than our current superstars.

Jay Harris
57 Posted 09/07/2020 at 01:18:22
I don't know why we can't consider Sidibé and tell him he is playing for his move. Him and Seamus had a decent game together not so long ago. He passes as well as Sigurdsson and defends a whole lot better.

Leave the back 4 alone they have looked pretty solid apart from deflections.

Pickford.
Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne.
Sidibé, Gomes, Davies, Gordon
Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison.

Derek Thomas
58 Posted 09/07/2020 at 01:21:46
Jay @ 57; I can live with that line up.
Graham Hammond
59 Posted 09/07/2020 at 02:45:45
I do not want to see Sigurdsson in our team again, he epitomises so much of what is wrong with Everton currently. I would sooner we had Mo Besic back on the field in blue, at least he does not hide, he may have his limitations but having talent is only of use with a work ethic that comes before it, we currently do not have that.
Alan J Thompson
60 Posted 09/07/2020 at 06:28:56
If I didn't have to tackle and could go 20 minutes without touching the ball and could tell everyone that the Manager doesn't criticize me for it, then for a £120k a week I could be very professional as well.

Until now I'd thought Mr Ancelotti's press conferences had gone very well but saying it is not where you criticize players is saying that you probably have in private, so, let's just hope we see a bit more effort and effect with all that professionalism.

Vijay Nair
61 Posted 09/07/2020 at 07:13:29
I would honestly rather see Bernard playing in place of Sigurdsson behind the two forwards. Gordon is more than capable in that left wing role.
John Kavanagh
62 Posted 09/07/2020 at 07:26:30
Regardless of what Steve Fearns has to say on the matter, I'd still play Baningime before I'd give Sigurdsson yet another opportunity to disgrace the blue shirt. I don't care how crap Beni allegedly is, it would be virtually impossible for him to be any worse than Sigurdsson unless he just sat in the centre circle. Even then he could at least get in the way of the opposition. I'd sooner start with 10 men rather than see Sigurdsson make us a national laughing stock yet again.

When I remind myself what we spent on Sigurdsson when we could have got Maddison for less than half the money (and wages) as proposed by several here on TW at the time, the rumours of Lingard/Jones in exchange for Richarlison and Holgate take on an all too frightening realism. It wouldn't be the first time we've been totally shafted by the Mancs in the transfer market would it?

Steve Guy
63 Posted 09/07/2020 at 09:32:01
Nice one Carlo, big the useless numpty up so we get a few quid when we offload him.
Benjamin Dyke
64 Posted 09/07/2020 at 09:35:01
How have we spent gazillions since Moshiri came in to be forced into this discussion here about our midfield. I'm crying Southampton have been fighting for their manager (and their club) unlike us. Our players mostly just take the wages and hide on the pitch. We have no balls as a team and that's a disgrace! It's like we 've won the lottery, left our crappy working class job, bought a house in Caldy and then realised we left our soul (and mates) behind only to have a shit life full of money and nowt else.
Barry Rathbone
65 Posted 09/07/2020 at 09:37:42
The icelander is a big fish in a small pool type great for Swansea and Iceland exposed at Spurs and here. He needs off loading pronto.
Martin Nicholls
66 Posted 09/07/2020 at 09:51:13
Benjamin#64 - nice place Caldy, but no pub so not a proper village!
Trevor Peers
67 Posted 09/07/2020 at 09:56:21
Everton have become a very average pool Barry #65 or maybe you just haven't you noticed. Benjamin #64 to say we have spent gazillions is nonsense £45 million is our biggest spend and that was from money received from the Lukaku transfer. We are way behind the big clubs and some of us need a reality check!

Fully expect us to win tonight, we can and usually do beat most teams at home. Once we have got over our confidence issues after that awful Spurs performance. It will be a very nervy start.

Barry Rathbone
68 Posted 09/07/2020 at 10:19:13
Trevor @67 We are undoubtedly crap but as a club we're not Swansea
Rick Tarleton
69 Posted 09/07/2020 at 11:37:43
Sigurdsson and Delph are in the category of has-beens ( never- wases is a bit cruel, maybe). So Baningime at this stage of a non-season for us, perhaps deserves a run.
I find Gomes the most frustrating of our so-called midfield, his ball skill and passing ability is manifest, but somehow, he doesn't make an impression. He has little stamina, his tacking is a liability and offers the opposition too many free kicks, and his passing skill is usually spent in forty yard crossfield balls to a full back.
Ancelotti needs to work on the midfield, as he has worked on the defence and hopefully he will see a similar improvement. But I can't see it with the personnel available.
Colin Glassar
70 Posted 09/07/2020 at 11:47:44
I’ve followed Ancellotti’s career since he played for Milan. Carlo is a cool customer and will never go on a post match rant. He’ll do that away from the cameras and in his own time.

He’s spoken a lot recently about mentality and he’ll try and change that over the coming months. I expect him to get at least three players he trusts and who have that mindset eg Silva, Allen and Rabiot or Rodriguez.

Right now he’s not interested in age, he’s said so, he’ll want players who understand his methods and will carry them out on the pitch. Trust Carlo to get it done.

Dave Southword
71 Posted 09/07/2020 at 12:32:30
We can argue about Beni's attitude and why he didn't play for Wigan, or his last first team appearance for us, but the important thing is what is he like right now?

Let's find out by playing him. Football is a lot do to with momentum, mentality and being in the right place at the right time. If Beni plays tonight and has a good game then maybe he gets some momentum, like Tom did a few years ago when he had first team exposure and looked a lot better in the 1st team than he did at the time in the ressies.

Brian Wilkinson
72 Posted 10/07/2020 at 14:30:05
John@62 you said don't care how crap Beni allegedly is, it would be virtually impossible for him to be any worse than Sigurdsson unless he just sat in the centre circle.

Did you forget about Siggy sitting in the goal mouth and costing us a winner against utd.

So on that basis even sat in the centre circle by Beni, would be no worse :-)

I would give Beni a run out.

Mal van Schaick
73 Posted 11/07/2020 at 17:21:49
List the all the midfield players including Sigurdsson if the owner wants to see his ambitions coming to fruition or else we are a mid table team at best.
Steve Guy
74 Posted 11/07/2020 at 22:13:11
Robbed a living from virtually the moment we bought him. Got by with the odd free-kick. Hides in plain sight... can't wait to get rid of the ball when he does get it... doesn't tackle... points and gesticulates to teammates to give the ball to anyone but him. I hate seeing his name on the team sheet.

In case it's not obvious, I want him gone and can only assume Ancelotti is bigging him up to get at least some of the money we spunked against the wall back. He's not the only one but he's symptomatic of the low standards accepted by our Club.

Phil Lewis
75 Posted 12/07/2020 at 10:12:50
Baningime looked an excellent prospect in the short spell he had in the team. His loan period and subsequent injuries set his progress backwards.

Tom Davies has had ample opportunity to establish himself as an ever present, but far too often has come up short. Sigurdsson has never done it for me, he simply isn't good enough. Gomes is a class act, but that injury has taken its toll, mentally as well as physically. He may never fully recover. Seamus did, but it took a while.

First impressions, I was hugely impressed with Bernard, but he seems to have lost his way. I agree with an earlier post, perhaps deploying him in a more central role behind the front two may bring about an improvement in his game. And who knows if or when and to what capability Gbamin may return.

So we undoubtedly need a strong intelligent midfielder. He will no doubt cost us a considerable amount of money. In the meantime, with nothing at stake in the remaining league fixtures, surely the time is right for Beni Baningime to be given the opportunity to stake his claim to being that player.

Trevor Peers
76 Posted 12/07/2020 at 10:49:22
The Beni Baningime fan club gains momentum; if he really is as good as some think why didn't he shine at Wigan? What a desperate lot we are clutching at straws when the truth is the lad has a bad attitude and is a loser from all accounts.
Phil Lewis
77 Posted 12/07/2020 at 11:38:00
Trevor #76,

I stated quite clearly that his loan periods and injuries proved a failure. But anyone who goes to the match (which I assume you do) could not deny that his first performances in a Blue first team shirt were very good.

Added to the list of my previous post, Delph is not the answer, he lacks pace and guile. Iwobi is the proverbial 'chicken with its head cut off!'

So under these circumstances and I repeat, with nothing at stake, throw Beni back in to see if he can reproduce his initial good form. What do we have to lose?

David Connor
78 Posted 12/07/2020 at 16:54:49
Skilful player. But far to slow for the game now. Better suited to playing abroad... Oh and he's a coward. Get rid for god's sake.
John Davies
80 Posted 23/07/2020 at 15:20:42
Sigurdsson has to be one of the biggest, most expensive, wastes of time in Everton's history. He does have potential but is not bothered in using it. Please get rid asap.

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