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1 Posted 26/11/2019 at 08:56:33
2 Posted 26/11/2019 at 12:33:38
Harry Catterick, to me, was by far the best manager Everton ever had, he operated the way that was best for the club, his own man, and if it didnt please some people, tough luck, as he said he didnt look to please people, had no favourites, just did the job he was paid to do, in his own way, it worked for me as an Everton fan and Im thousands of other Everton supporters.
It always irked me, and still does that people had the egotistic Liverpool manager as a better manager than Harry, no way, Harry was every bit as good, better to me, than the Liverpool manager, who was too much in love with himself for my liking, obviously my Everton bias coming into play there, but give me common sense and a quiet manner over showing off and looking for the limelight any day.
Thanks for the great times and wonderful football Harry, youll always be remembered by me and thousands of other Everton when we talk of the great Everton teams. So sorry I missed your memorial night.
3 Posted 26/11/2019 at 13:38:18
4 Posted 26/11/2019 at 14:05:53
5 Posted 26/11/2019 at 18:55:15
Everton have of course always gone for the quiet, reserved manager, and Catterick was always that. So of course is our present manager -- unfortunately he lacks all of Catterick's tactical and organisational skills!
6 Posted 26/11/2019 at 22:09:03
7 Posted 26/11/2019 at 22:58:48
I had tears in my eyes when I heard he'd been sold to Arsenal. It was like losing a family member. I had a feeling in my gut like I'd swallowed a cannonball.
8 Posted 27/11/2019 at 07:33:51
The pleasurable part was attending a function in The Peoples Lounge on Friday evening to commemorate the hundredth anniversary of the birth of Harry Catterick. The event was put together by the Everton Heritage Society, entry included being given a book on Harry, written by Rob Sawyer, published by James Corbetts deCoubertin Books. I had a word with Rob just after I got in, he said what a pleasure it had been to talk to Jimmy Dunns son for the article published recently on TW.
Members of the Catterick family were present, including daughter Joyce, they were very well received and serenaded with “The Ballad of Dixie Dean”. There were also good cameos from Ian Snodin, Ronnie Goodlass and Terry Darracott. Terry was one of a few speakers to comment on the fact that Harry spoke very little to the players, to the extent that when he was brought into the squad as a 17 year-old to possibly make his debut due to injuries to Ray Wilson and Sandy Brown, he had no idea whether he was going to play or not, much to the irritation of his Mum. Eventually, he was sent home earlier than usual on the Thursday afternoon, avoiding the usual boot cleaning and sweeping up. He was waiting at the bus-stop to go home to Huyton when a purple Ford Capri pulled up. It was Bill Shankly. “Son, are you playing on Saturday?”. “Ive no idea, Mr Shankly”. “Son, youre going home at one oclock, Im telling you, youre playing”. When he got home his Mum asked “Are you playing?”. “Yes, Mum”. “How do you know?”. “Mr Shankly told me”!
The host for the evening was Ken Rogers, former Everton correspondent for The Echo. He had a wealth of stories, including the emotional tale of seeing Harry collapse after the FA Cup tie with Ipswich. He explained how he knew the leader of medical team who attended to him, he could see them 20 yards away from where he was phoning in his match report, working on Mr Catterick, and he eventually received a “thumbs up”. He was dictating his report that things were looking good, when he suddenly received a “thumbs down”. A tragic day for the family, and our club.
Ken introduced Gavin Buckland and Rob, who both wrote books about Harry. He also welcomed Lord Grantchester, grandson of Sir John Moores, and there was discussion about the nature of the working relationship between Moores and Catterick. Tellingly, they told of a question raised by a journalist to Moores upon Harrys appointment – “You have dismissed Johnny Carey, who finished 4th. What will happen if Cattericks team finish 4th”. Moores answered quite simply “He will be replaced”.
There was film of the 1966 FA Cup final, and Derek Temple was introduced to huge applause. Typically, he said “People say I scored the winning goal. I dont look at it that way, I simply scored the third goal. Without Trebs two goals, mine would have meant nothing”. I had a brief word with Derek, and asked him whether he got fed-up with such evenings? “No” he replied, “these things are important. And let me tell you – Evertonians never forget”.
The highlight of the evening followed Dave Prentice asking his wife Melanie, grand-daughter of William Ralph Dean, to present the Dixie Team Memorial Trophy for Sportsmanship and Respect. It went to John Hurst, who was correctly labelled “an impeccable role model of class and consistency”.
John said he was not such great player – he “couldnt hack it in his first position up front, nor when he was moved back to midfield, but was then given the easiest job in football playing alongside Brian Labone, who did all the tackling and heading, leaving him just to pick up the loose ball and pass it to someone”. Over 400 games for Everton, bettered by only 16 players in the clubs history, suggest he had a bit more to his game than that. He was a tremendous centre back.
For me, seeing John brought back childhood memories. As a 9 year-old, watching him crash home a penalty off the underside of the crossbar to clinch the Youth Cup Final in 1965. As a 13 year-old, I was standing in the Scoreboard End at Old Trafford as he put a 20 yard screamer into the Stretford End. That wasnt a bad start to the 69-70 Championship season, first two games both away, at Arsenal and Man Utd. Played 2, won 2, goals for 3, goals against 0, points 4, leading scorer John Hurst .
Talk inevitably moved on to Cattericks second great team, that Title winning team of 69-70. Of how Catterick pinched Alan Ball from under the noses of Liverpool and Leeds Utd, despite Don Revie having had surreptitious meetings beforehand with Bally, readies in hand. And how Harry did the same when he signed Howard Kendall, when he was already pencilled in to Liverpools team the following Saturday. Ken referred to the debates that have taken place about who is Evertons greatest ever manager, correctly saying that its purely a matter of conjecture and opinion, but that we should always remember that it was Harry Catterick who first brought Howard Kendall to Everton.
After the Southampton game a couple of weeks ago, I asked an old pal whether he fancied attending the event. He replied “I dont think so, I dont want to wallow in nostalgia”. Thats a perfectly valid view, one I understand. But I thoroughly enjoyed the evening, and it reinforced to me that its not simply nostalgia, it was a reminder of the standards to which our Club must aspire. I have seen it written that we are not a “big club”. Damn right we are, and its time we started to show it again.
9 Posted 27/11/2019 at 09:36:49
Win lose or draw under Carey I would be left with the feeling that I had just witnessed what later became known as a 'beautiful game.'
With Harry it was more a joyless case of just getting the job done.
Speaking as a forever Blue I disagree with critcism of Bill Shankly.
If ever a manager had his finger on the pulse of what his players supporters and Fans wanted that person was Bill.
10 Posted 27/11/2019 at 10:47:50
11 Posted 27/11/2019 at 11:24:33
On to John Moores, what a leader he was, with his eye on the ball and no time for failure, what hed make of the present set up wouldnt be hard to fantham.
It sounded like a great night Peter, thanks for your report on it, hope we witness some more great nights at Goodison in the near future, on the field, we certainly need them.
12 Posted 28/11/2019 at 00:53:04
I was born in 78 so can only go on trophies and rare footage.
But it has always bothered me that Revie et al get way more credit than Harry. I looked at the trophy hauls and league finishes of Busby, Shankly, Revie, Nicholson and Catterick recently. He was right up there, especially as he won two league titles so far apart.
He never gets a mention in the wider press. To put things in perspective, Revie won the same amount of trophies plus one League Cup yet we hear a heck of a lot more about him.
Shankly didn't win all that much more but, if you listened to RS and the media, you'd think he won the Double and European Cup on a regular basis.
Funny how propaganda overshadows facts...
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