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1 Posted 08/01/2020 at 23:19:19
Then put in a cheeky offer for the young Liverpool lad that played last Sunday.
Or, get Norwich City's right back that played at Goodison this season.
2 Posted 08/01/2020 at 23:54:00
I can't see anyone buying Sandro or Bolase. We may get peanuts for Schneiderlin, Tosun and Walcott. God knows who would buy Sigurdsson.
Regardless we need to add to the squad before selling. The midfield is non existent.
3 Posted 08/01/2020 at 23:57:21
Always interesting analysis but:
"Pickford at £35 million, Keane £30 million, Bernard £20 million and Davies at £25 million would produce a player trading profit of approximately £87 million."
Would be nice but, other than Pickford, I can't see any of those other players coming anywhere near those sums.
4 Posted 08/01/2020 at 00:07:58
5 Posted 09/01/2020 at 00:23:38
6 Posted 09/01/2020 at 04:51:46
I would bet we could get 20 mil for Bernard.
Davies 25 million? Dream land. Keane? Lucky to get 15 million.
7 Posted 09/01/2020 at 06:29:57
8 Posted 09/01/2020 at 06:33:01
9 Posted 09/01/2020 at 07:12:22
10 Posted 09/01/2020 at 08:22:10
Unfortunately these reported losses will presumably be a lot more next year.
It's going take two to three seasons to wipe the slate clean
11 Posted 09/01/2020 at 09:28:58
1- January is a time for desperation for many clubs i.e. they need players to avoid relegation, surely Tosun and Niasse could be saviours for these types of teams.
2-Normally why we haven't tried to sell players is because the manager will be left 'short'. I'm thinking about Walcott and the CM particularly. If we can get these players out just do it regardless of reinforcing.
3-when we wanted Zaha for example we had at least four players Palace have shown an interest i.e. Mac,Tosun,Walcott and Lookman. We could overpay for the right acquisition by clearing deadwood. Very few will fork out big sums for our cast offs but they could be desirable in the right team/league so part exchange for players we desire should be the way to go.
12 Posted 09/01/2020 at 11:12:34
That said, with the appointment of a top class manager in Ancelotti with experience in getting the best out of players he has at his disposal, it's possible that we will finish higher up the table than we have done on average since Moshiri came here, if not this season (because of the poor start prior to Ancelotti arriving) then next season and onwards.
Then, any player sales and new signings based on Ancelotti's plans would reflect further efforts to advance the club further.
These are just possibilities, and of course in reality we don't know how the future will unfold, although there are always many assumptions, particularly on this thread. In truth, nobody knows.
13 Posted 09/01/2020 at 11:19:04
14 Posted 09/01/2020 at 11:19:31
15 Posted 09/01/2020 at 11:35:49
It's all relative Utd have Sanchez, Bournemouth have Solanki, Villa Wesley, Newcastle Carroll and the other big money striker to name just a few.
Even if we did move out the driftwood there are players lining up to become the next deadwood. Iwobi takes Suggurdssons place, Delph takes Sneiderlins, walcot takes Bolases, It happens everywhere.
Results mask over a lot, City have a lot of average players but also have the most talented.
We have to find a way of recruiting and not let ffp impact us. Other clubs seem to be able to do it.
16 Posted 09/01/2020 at 11:36:11
ToffeeWeb is a great site, but at the same time is often beset by folks making assumptions (and exaggerations arising from them). The devil is in the detail, and most people don't know the detail or can't assess it even when they do know it.
17 Posted 09/01/2020 at 13:38:59
Since his great achievement of the decima 5.5 years ago he has not got the best out of his players at his disposal.
He couldn't win the title with Real and in his two subsequent posts didn't get close to the points tallies of his predecessor.
18 Posted 09/01/2020 at 13:49:22
19 Posted 09/01/2020 at 14:11:51
20 Posted 09/01/2020 at 14:43:24
21 Posted 09/01/2020 at 14:51:22
22 Posted 09/01/2020 at 15:29:14
Everton over the last number of years has lost its reputation as an ambitious top 6 club and it is only in the eyes of its supporters who believe that just because we offer the money for top international players they will automatically come.
Quality players want recognition, as in European competitions and cup finals, none of which Everton can provide. So Everton are competing in a poor position if another club in a better position bid for a quality player that Everton are after.
It is going to take a huge turnaround of play to even reach the top 6 this season and as cup finals are out, we need to get into a position to compete in Europe to attract quality professionals or rely on the hiring of our new manager Ancelloti with his reputation to attract the type of player we need to become a top 4 club.
I don't expect to see more than 1 maybe 2 players coming in this silly January transfer month, but would like to see some movement on certain players being moved on. We cant transfer to many of the first team players named by Ancelloti as who it is rumored he would like to sell, as we don't have any one to replace all of them.
Moshiri with his financial backing was welcome and would be more welcome if his former partner joined him, but the way the league has been set up with its FFP rules it is not easy to just spend it on players, we will have to sell, mostly at a loss to buy quality.
23 Posted 09/01/2020 at 16:55:42
24 Posted 09/01/2020 at 18:30:56
Paul, as you write from the perspective of your own expertise in accountancy/ finance I try to draw upon my knowledge of how the club is run. Dysfunctionally is one word that springs to mind.
While LFC operate as a business with the same stealth as the Everton of the 1960s, today's EFC is all show. John Mooress ruthless dedication to being the best in all aspects of the club has been replaced by a vacuous embrace of a showbiz mentality.
How many RS could name their Chief Exec? In contrast we have a Chairman who could preface public meetings with “its showtime, folks!” as he introduces our CEO as “Lil Miss Dynamite!” Even the shy, reserved owner cant resist a phone-in spout on national radio.
Where is the decorum? Where is the business head to provide a check and balance on some of these crazy transfers that Paul highlights? A lot of these buys were vanity purchases and in a culture of “my way or the highway” there was no sane voice of opposition.
We are in this for the long haul unless some super accountant (isnt that Moshiri?) can find some clever loopholes in FFP. Paul, a recent post on TW suggested that Usmanov could buy the naming rights for Goodison as a way of injecting massive revenue for (hopefully 3 or 4 years). Would that work?
25 Posted 09/01/2020 at 20:57:44
26 Posted 09/01/2020 at 22:30:10
He has always employed Kenwright as his one football guru, in effect. Hell, he even announced Kenwright's "enhanced" role as chairman recently. Moshiri's board also features folk of no discernible football know-how at all, just Kenwright, the greedy self-centred pseudo everyone on the planet knows him to be.
And some of us seemingly still wonder who's to personally blame for our increasing predicament.
27 Posted 10/01/2020 at 09:47:49
This causes me not the have confidence in the current overall Management team to turn Everton around as a Club.
If Paul the Esk did a similar evaluation of infividuals who make up the overall Management team, greater effeciencies and results would become apparent and achievable.
The Culture of Everton FC will not change enough, without changes in all areas of the Club.
28 Posted 10/01/2020 at 10:40:15
We keep changing managers, and each one of them keeps trying to cobble together a team, changing the lineup every week - we haven't had a settled team for several years now and it shows.
We lack a common goal, a sense of purpose, and that goes for supporters as well as players & management. It's time Everton put a flag in the ground and set out to play a certain way, with a certain set of players and stick to a philosophy.
What is the Everton way? I haven't got a damn clue, and I suspect neither does anyone else. Money is meaningless if you don't know what to do with it.
29 Posted 10/01/2020 at 12:59:32
Look at Spurs, a club in terms of silverware, are not successful and are the least cash rich of the top six clubs in England. Their annual turnover even before their new stadium is twice that of ours.
Our spending reflects a club such as them rather than say Newcastle which more or less mirrors us.
This is where the problem lies. Approaching Moshiri's 3rd anniversary we have grossly overspent on wages and on the volume of journeyman players bought for huge fees.
It worried me in the summer when we pursued Zaha for the ridiculous fee we were willing to pay, for me it showed that the club hadn't learnt from both the Schniederlin, Walcott & Sigurdsson deals.
Hopefully now that we have Ancelotti, a wiser more experienced head will prevail.
I also have a very sad feeling that we'll be stuck with Sigurdsson, Schniederlin, Bolasie & Walcott until their contracts expire as their wages more than whatever transfer fee can be generated will be the stumbling block to moving them on. We'll probably wave goodbye to Richarlison before these players leave as we'll need to sell him to cover the losses.
Being linked to players such as Rodriguez and Rabiot is pie in the sky. Combined these two players earn nearly £485k per week... that would be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
The new stadium is crucial for raising our profile and significantly increasing turnover only then can we realistically sustain £50m transfer fees & £145m wage budgets.
30 Posted 10/01/2020 at 15:44:25
31 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:32:12
32 Posted 12/01/2020 at 21:07:35
33 Posted 13/01/2020 at 18:36:27
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