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Chris Williams
1 Posted 07/05/2020 at 20:15:58
Aaah Tommy. A lovely man and thoroughly decent from top to bottom. I knew him at Littlewoods and worked closely with him for about four years.

He got genuinely embarrassed if you wanted to talk about him at Everton. A gentle man in the truest sense of the word. I almost had to blackmail him to get his autograph.

Truly popular with everyone who knew him, which was hard to achieve in Littlewoods in those days.

A good player for Everton, underrated by many, but a bridge between old Everton and new Everton in some ways.

Lovely piece, Rob. Thanks

Dave Abrahams
2 Posted 07/05/2020 at 20:44:33
Tommy was very under rated, a solid centre-half as well as playing in both full-back positions. A very modest man – notice in the write-up Tommy talking about the promotion win at Oldham, without mentioning he scored one of the goals in a 4-0 win.

Tommy took the penalties as well and had a good record taking them. Players were a different breed in those days, down to earth, well most of them, but very proud of playing and giving their all for the club.

Another player well described, Rob, well done.

Chris Williams
3 Posted 07/05/2020 at 20:58:31
Took a decent penalty too, Dave.
Rick Tarleton
4 Posted 08/05/2020 at 08:01:22
He was the Everton centre-half of my youth and I remember he was a solid and reliable presence. Everton in the fifties were not terribly exciting. Bobby Collins changed that; nevertheless, TE Jones was a player who we all admired and trusted. He was exceptionally calm and rarely resorted to fouling his opponent; at one time, he was the penalty taker.

He looked neat and confident and rarely seemed to have a bad game. In those days central defenders weren't all giants, Billy Wright, the England captain and centre-half, was no more than 5'-8" and Joe Shaw at Sheffield United no more than 5'-7", so the fact that Jones wasn't a six-footer was not that unusual.

A player I remember with great respect.

Dennis Stevens
5 Posted 08/05/2020 at 09:15:02
Thanks very much, Rob. Another fascinating insight into the life of a great footballer, from an era when they seemed so much more like real people.
Lenny Kingman
6 Posted 08/05/2020 at 12:32:40
A player I missed in his prime, but my dad used to eulogise about, Tommy E Jones.

The colour picture at Bellefield with Tommy Ring and Ray Veall I think, reminds me of a chance meeting with Veall down in New Zealand where, somewhat less hirsute, he was player/managing Gisborne City in their national league in the mid 70s.

Watched them a few times and had a couple of beers with him and he loved talking about his time with the Blues in such a faraway posting. He mentioned Jones as well as all the other Blue stars that were readying themselves to be the Champions of England.

George Carroll
7 Posted 09/05/2020 at 13:16:45
Another great read... brings back many memories.

Hoping someone does one on my favourites Peter Farrell and Tommy Eglington – two of the nicest footballers I ever met. Happy days when, as someone mentioned, footballers behaved like the rest of us.

David Peate
8 Posted 10/05/2020 at 09:22:20
What about the game in 1951 versus Notts County. T E Jones was told to keep Tommy Lawton under control – gentle push in the back which Lawton used to hate, was the message.

If I remember rightly, they concentrated so much on Lawton that one of the County players scored four goals. T E Jones was quite red-faced about the result. Other than the gentle push, Jones was an exceptionally clean and fair player in a less than average team.

John McFarlane Snr
9 Posted 10/05/2020 at 10:09:40
Hi David [8] the player who scored 4 goals that day was Jimmy Jackson, who emigrated to Canada at a later date.
David Peate
10 Posted 11/05/2020 at 19:53:28
Thanks John [9]. I had forgotten Jackson's name but I do recall that the late Harry Leyland was in goal and he gave a dreadful performance.
Dave Abrahams
11 Posted 11/05/2020 at 21:09:12
David (10), sorry, wrong again, I think it was George Burnett, and some older Evertonians, at the time, said it was the best game he had ever played for Everton!!!
David Peate
12 Posted 12/05/2020 at 14:36:12
Dave [11] I was convinced that Harry Leyland was the goalkeeper in that Notts County match so I checked and found that George Burnett was transferred to Oldham Athletic almost three weeks prior to its being played. George was a good keeper but suffered from the continued presence of the great Ted Sagar.
John McFarlane Snr
13 Posted 12/05/2020 at 15:20:44
Hi Dave [11] and David [12],

It was indeed Harry Leyland who played in goal that day, the team was Harry Leyland, George Saunders, Jock Lindsay, Peter Farrell, Tommy Jones, Cyril Lello, Tony McNamara, Wally Fielding, John Willie Parker, Ted Buckle, and Tommy Eglington. John Willie Parker scored the goal in the 5-1 defeat. Incidentally, the attendance of 49,604 was the highest of the season, I think that the attraction of Tommy Lawton was the reason.

Dave Abrahams
14 Posted 12/05/2020 at 15:39:30
David (12), David sincere apologies, for some daft reason I thought you were talking about the Oldham Athletic game when we won promotion, I was at both the Notts County and Oldham Athletic games, don’t know how I thought you were referring to the Oldham game, so I apologise again.
David Peate
15 Posted 12/05/2020 at 15:52:51
Dave [14] No problem. I was at the Oldham promotion game with my brother as well. You would have thought that we had won the FA cup when the match ended. There were more Evertonians at that game than I had seen at any other away match - not that I attended too many awaydays.
Dave Abrahams
16 Posted 12/05/2020 at 16:43:02
John (15), Thanks John.

Yes it was a special night, that game at Oldham, got in early but not long after the game started had to get onto the surrounding area behind the goal a few feet from the touch line, along with hundreds of young fans.

As soon as the final whistle blew I was dashing towards my idol Davie Hickson when I fell over, luckily I was picked up by a fellow blue before I was trampled into the ground by the thousands of stampeding Everton fans coming onto the pitch. A great, never to be forgotten night, for the thousands of us Everton fans who had made the trip to Boundary Park.

Ray Atherton
17 Posted 12/05/2020 at 20:16:33
I went to Villa Park about 1960. I think T. E. Jones
scored two penalties in a victory 4-2. Nigel Simms
was their Goalkeeper. I was fourteen about then.

John Mac can you get that crystal ball down, Thank
you.

Peter Mills
18 Posted 14/05/2020 at 10:13:37
Dave#16, my Dad spoke fondly of that night match at Oldham when we were promoted back to the 1st Division in 1954. I believe we needed to win 6-0 to win the league, were 4-0 up at half-time, and that was how the game finished - was there a hint of disappointment, or did it not matter that we had not won the league?

I understand the lack of a 6-0 win did not dampen my Dad’s celebrations, which continued on the way home at The Greyhound on the East Lancs Road, before he reported directly for work at the fruit, veg and flower market in Queen Square at 4.00 a.m. He was met instantly by his boss (his own Dad) who gave him the bollocking of a lifetime for turning up for duty somewhat dishevelled and with a suggestion of alcohol on his breath. My Grandad then sat him down with a cup of tea and demanded full details of the match.

Dave Abrahams
19 Posted 14/05/2020 at 12:43:53
Peter (18), Peter, on the night it certainly didn’t mater at all, the joy,happiness, excileration and pride was unbelievable, one of the best nights of my life, I got on the train, at Central station at about 4-00pm, the station was a sea of blue and white, masses of fans singing their heads off, it continued throughout the night, never let up for a minute while the game was played, celebrations began in earnest as soon as the final whistle was blown, the station at Oldham was alive with singing, dancing and strangers, well there were no strangers that night, shared the unbridled happiness, it continued all the way home. I wouldn’t be surprised if your dad saw a lot of the young workers dancing as they got on with their jobs.

For me going to school on the bus was brilliant sharing our tales of last nights win, and to be honest Liverpool getting relegated didn’t come into it, I’ve saved that for the last sixty odd years.

Dave Abrahams
20 Posted 15/05/2020 at 10:19:26
Ray (17), you were younger than you thought, when you went to that game, 1958 to be exact, but your memory was spot on, T E Jones with two penalties and goals from Eddie Thomas and Eddie O’Hara, John Mac lent me his crystal ball!!

Hope you are doing okay Ray during these bleak times, very best wishes.

Ray Atherton
21 Posted 16/05/2020 at 15:41:19
Dave (20), I thank you.

I thought it was 1959-60, because Wally (Nobby) Fielding was playing. COYB.

Terry White
22 Posted 16/05/2020 at 17:15:51
Ray (#21), Fielding did not play in the 4-2 win at Villa in 1958.
John McFarlane Snr
23 Posted 16/05/2020 at 17:35:08
Hi Terry [22],

You are right regarding Wally Fielding being absent from the fixture away to Villa on 8 November 1958. I was serving in Cyprus at the time so I've been forced to consult the record books.

Wally's final game was against Tottenham Hotspur in the 10-4 debacle. That date, 11 October 1958, is etched on my memory, along with 29 January 1955, the 4-0 loss to Liverpool in the FA Cup, a Second Division outfit that hadn't won an away game.

Ray Atherton
24 Posted 16/05/2020 at 18:12:09
Terry(21) & John(22),

I stand to be corrected about Wally Fielding. Excuse me gents I was 12 years of age.

Ste Warbrick
25 Posted 16/05/2020 at 23:31:33
Good read, and I really enjoyed the comments. My Dad told me a lot about the promotion match at Oldham, but I didn't know until now that it was a night game. My Dad also went to St Margaret's School (Anfield), but was 5 years older than TE.
In 1984, at UCD away game, I was with the home fans and got a tap on the shoulder from the guy sitting behind me. With a beaming smile, he introduced himself as Peter Farrell and went on to talk for quite a while about playing with TG and TE. He was undeniably a proud Evertonian and Irishman. Meeting Peter was the best thing about being at the game that night.
Dave Abrahams
26 Posted 17/05/2020 at 10:01:30
Ste (25), you met a thorough gentleman when you met Peter Farrell who was also a very good player, an exceptional captain who gave Everton years of great service along with his friend Tommy Eglington (Eggo).

It hasn't been mentioned on this thread but the Oldham game should have been played earlier in the season, January, I think, I travelled to Oldham on that bleak dank day only for the game to be postponed... maybe it was a good decision.

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