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Antonee Robinson is being talked about in terms of a possible return to Everton just a year after he left Goodison Park.

The USA international signed for Wigan Athletic from the Toffees in a permanent deal after spending a year on loan with the Latics but he is now looking for a return to the Premier League just months after a permanent move to AC Milan fell through.

Wigan were relegated to League One from the Championship in controversial fashion following a points deduction at the end of the 2019-20 season and they recently accepted an offer of £2m from Sheffield United for Robinson.

However, according to reports, Everton and Fulham have joined the race to sign the fullback, with Marcel Brands looking to sign a replacement for Leighton Baines who announced his retirement at the end of last season.

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Robert Leigh
1 Posted 14/08/2020 at 05:57:43
Delighted at this news – get him back, Carlo!

He's clearly developed well since leaving, can play left-back or left-wingback, is a ‘cheap' signing (although, if we had any sense, we'd have had first option anyway), and knows the club.

Can't see any better options for the money, what's the downside?

Joe Corgan
2 Posted 14/08/2020 at 06:37:10
Not to twist the knife but Robinson was due to join AC Milan for £6m rising to up to £10m last January. It fell through at the time but, if we end up paying the same kind of money for a player we sold for £2m last year, it does not reflect well on Brands and his team!
Rob Dolby
3 Posted 14/08/2020 at 06:40:26
It just shows what a shambles in recruitment the club have been if this is true.

The staff know his game inside out and let him go but are now considering him as a new signing.

If he does sign we are getting a full back that defends as a priority rather than a converted winger.

Not sure returning players ever work out.

Stephen Campbell
4 Posted 14/08/2020 at 06:57:12
We let both Antonee Robinson and Joe Williams leave the club for Wigan for peanuts and both were outstanding during the season. Robinson was and still is the ideal replacement for Baines and Williams is ten times better than Davies and Delph put together. Both players should still be at Everton.
Colin Glassar
5 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:13:14
What a joke. Brands out!!
Derek Knox
6 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:17:34
Rob @3, I have always believed that myself, that returning players, or Managers for that matter, very rarely works out. I firmly believe that we shouldn't have been so hasty to offload Antonee in the first instance.

However, it can't be disputed that he has gained valuable experience with Wigan, and it could never have been envisaged what would happen to them.

The other side of the coin being, would he be satisfied (assuming we did bring him back) playing understudy to Digne, who generally is an ever-present?

Going against my opening statement, I wouldn't mind him back, but that would make Brands and his team look like they have made yet another expensive faux pas decision, so doubt whether that would happen.

Whatever the outcome, I wish Antonee all the best, and someone will get a bargain indeed for what is an experienced, yet still young International player!

Paul Ellam
7 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:32:22
I'd be surprised if we got him back – mainly due to things looking bad against Brands et al for selling him in the first place.

Heard we were thinking of Rodriguez from Milan – he may be a cheap alternative who has bags of top-flight experience round Europe.

Steve Shave
8 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:34:53
You couldn't make it up! Even my gran would have had the foresight to see the kid has a future, that Baines was getting to the end of his career and we would need left-back cover!!! I'm waiting for Mr Gaynes response to this one.

I'd have him back in a heartbeat, should never have been sold but instead nurtured and developed. If I was him ,I would steer well clear of us personally. Go to Sheffield fella, they play as a team, and you would be a starter.

Joe McMahon
9 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:54:16
Absolute Joke of a club, transfer strategy is shambolic.
Anthony Murphy
10 Posted 14/08/2020 at 07:57:23
It could be that Wigan still owe us part of the payment, therefore making the deal easier? However, selling and then buying back so soon – whatever the rationale – would show a serious level of incompetence within recruitment, if true.
Kenny Smith
11 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:14:38
To be fair he was behind two of the best left backs in the league. Baines and Digne have been quality so I can see why he left and why the club were prepared to let him go.

Baines has obviously retired and Digne won’t be here forever so this move might suit both the club and the player now.

Lester Yip
12 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:27:11
It should be a loan deal in the first place as Baines is leaving soon.
Christy Ring
13 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:28:42
Embarrassing to say the least. It shows that Brands doesn't ask Unsworth's opinion of his U23s prospects, and did he come to his senses because AC Milan tried to buy him?

Why did he not have a sell-on clause? Very poor professionally by Brands. It's hard to see Robinson coming back, after the way he was treated, and to sit in the reserves.

Barry Rathbone
14 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:37:11
Players can suddenly blossom beyond recognition turning potential into reality as the penny drops or their physique changes.

Ronaldo transformed physically and his effectiveness went through the roof after a season at Man Utd; presumably the same has happened with this boy.

I wouldn't be too hard on the club.

Andrew Bentley
15 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:37:50
Rob @3. Didn’t we let both Baines and Jagielka go from Everton when they were younger and then bought them back??? They worked out pretty well
Geoff Lambert
16 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:42:59
We will be lucky to get him with all the top clubs trying to sign him.
James Stewart
17 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:44:58
Can’t see it. He has stated he wants to play wherever he goes so that rules us out.

Don’t blame, shouldn’t have been let go permanently as it was obvious Baines was coming to the end. The Brands shit show just keeps on going...

Mike Allison
18 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:49:00
This is such an obvious signing to make, I'm surprised it hasn't been done already. Even if it was only from a business point of view, the fact that we're losing the sell-on because of Wigan's relegation means that not signing him would be stupid beyond belief, but he's actually a promising young international, with Championship experience and an affinity for the club.

Failing to sign him would be further evidence of how shambolic the club has become.

Sam Hoare
19 Posted 14/08/2020 at 08:53:41
I don't see why this is embarrassing for Brands.

There was a sell-on clause from what I know, so we would have got a decent chunk if he'd have gone to Milan. Wigan's unfortunate (and undeserved?) relegation activated his lower buyout.

At the time, the talk was that he wanted a permanent move and not another loan. I'd be surprised if he came back as Digne is so settled. If he were a right-back, he'd have much more chance of getting time.

Justin Doone
20 Posted 14/08/2020 at 09:16:00
When selling any young player, we should always ensure sell on percentages and buy-back clauses.

It's so simple to include and should not prevent their sale in anyway.

I think mentally, however, some players prefer the more permanent transfer decisions so they can continue their careers rather than a loan which could give false hope when it ends.

Stephen Vincent
21 Posted 14/08/2020 at 09:24:54
If this is true, totally agree with Colin #5.
Stephen Brown
22 Posted 14/08/2020 at 09:26:01
Paul Power could probably do a job as back up and he'd be less than £2m?
Justin Doone
23 Posted 14/08/2020 at 09:36:51
As for Robinson, I haven't seen him play this season but he was a fast, energetic attacking wing-back who needed to learn how to defend, improve positional sense and final ball.

But he certainly had / has potential without being ready for the Premier League. Just because Milan were interested is of little interest to me.

He's either good enough or not. He fits our blueprint of what we want and need or not.

Let's remember Garbutt who many felt was good enough; he certainly had better positional sense and end product (pass, cross) than Robinson but lacked pace and energy.

I think moving him on may have helped him with a fresh restart rather than 6 years of loans. But every player is different and like Kenny (who I do think is good enough), Brands has a few tough calls to make.

Either way, we need to keep future options open (ie, buy-back clauses).

Pat Kelly
24 Posted 14/08/2020 at 09:55:13
Next we'll be getting Rooney back.
Adam Scott
25 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:08:31
Don't get the criticism here of Brands.

We sold him as he had no pathway to the first team. He's developed and we now want him back? What's wrong with any of this? The lad probably wouldn't have signed a new deal would he just to be loaned out. It's a shit lifestyle after all.

He didn't want to stay at Everton first time because he wanted first-team football. We had a sell-on clause as well, but it's been voided by relegation, hasn't it?

I don't think we'll get him, mainly because both the other clubs can offer him better opportunities of first-team football I guess.

Benn Chambers
26 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:09:53
I’d have him back as back up but he’s no where near dignes level so what’s the point in him coming back to sit on the bench? He won’t be stupid enough to choose us, he needs to be first choice and if Baines couldn’t oust Digne, he has no chance.
Benn Chambers
27 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:13:01
Stephen Campbell #4,

Spot on. Joe Williams shames Tom Davies and is better than him in every department. I'm not saying he should be starting in our midfield but he wouldn't be any worse than the players who currently are. He should have been afforded the chances Davies has been given and I'd bet he'd have cemented himself and got better.

Davies is given game after game after game and does NOTHING. He's absolutely shite. I can't bear him. It's shocking that Williams was allowed to go yet Davies has clocked up 100 games and has done fuck all in 99 of them. He had one decent game against Man City and has done jack shit since.

Tony Abrahams
28 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:17:14
Imagine going to a club we’re the highest earners don’t want to leave because it doesn’t suit them financially. Imagine FFP, and then you have got younger players who need and want to play.

I thought last summers recruitment was poor, unlucky with injuries but not signing a pacy centre back definitely set us back, but what a job Brands came into, the kids in the sweet-shop bought so much shite, and it’s not only rotten, it’s still massively hampering our finances.

Bill Gienapp
29 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:37:01
I still don't really understand why we sold him in the first place.

A lot of people are ripping Brands, but if we get him back for the same price we sold him for, it's basically like he spent the past year on loan.

Sure, it looks a bit silly, but it's not like Man Utd selling Pogba for the equivalent of the change between the couch cushions and then spending £80 million to get him back.

Derek Thomas
30 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:39:51
Has all the hallmarks of one of Boys Pen Bill's teary cunning plans to bung a post-administration Wigan a few quid – not the worst thing ever in and of itself. Robinson is international adequate-ish 'a known, known' cover... but so was Cuco.
Dave Abrahams
31 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:40:28
Joe Williams was a favourite of mine, a good tackler and passed the ball well. A winner who fought for every ball. Joe then had a bad injury and when he came back he struggled, at first, lost a bit of pace but was starting to get back where he was.

Silva liked him and I think he was in his plans, then Silva got his P45 and his comics and Joe was sold.

There was more fight, heart and spirit than most of the central midfielders left at Goodison. Unlucky with his initial injury and needs some luck to progress from where he is now.

Alan J Thompson
32 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:45:35
I could be completely wrong but if Robinson wanted to leave in order to further his career as he would have been 3rd choice at Everton,

It is possible that he wants to, and can, leave Wigan for the same reason so criticism of Brands may be right out of order.

If Robinson is re-signed, this could also raise the question of how the young French lad we signed might feel given he could have thought himself 2nd choice left-back.

If we've only just seen what AC Milan may see then there is still a lot of work to be done in re-organizing the Academy.

Or, may be there is something in the agreement with Wigan that makes it advantageous to Everton to buy him back.

James Newcombe
33 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:46:11
I'd definitely bring him back, and give Digne a rest now and again. And play Robinson in the cups.
Dave Williams
34 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:54:21
If we do go for him, it's because we are selling Digne either now or in 12 months time. The new left-back we've signed is clearly very young but highly rated and signing Robinson would make no sense from his own point of view if he was just going to warm the bench again.

I see no problem with having sold him – he has clearly blossomed with regular football and with Baines and Digne ahead of him he was never going to get his chance with us.

With Baines now gone and Digne probably the one player we could sell to raise money who we could cover for (plus the idiot in goal). I can see the sense in this, if it is true.

Tony Everan
35 Posted 14/08/2020 at 10:54:41
I thought his sale was a bit odd at the time, under-priced and a mistake. I thought he was well regarded and could have been an excellent deputy to Digne, possibly taking over the role at some point.

I was surprised the club sold him as I was expecting a loan and to monitor his performance in the Championship. It's a tough one, as he needs to play to progress, not waste away on the bench.

Derek Knox
36 Posted 14/08/2020 at 11:04:46
None of us realistically know what plans Carlo or Brands has for the future, and neither do we know if Digne is happy to stay or would look to a move in say a year's time.

A solution if this is the case, would be to buy Antonee back, then arrange a loan for him to a Premier League Club (with clauses) to further his learning and experience. Provided he was in agreement of course!

Clive Rogers
37 Posted 14/08/2020 at 11:08:59
Can’t see this being true and there’s no way he would want to come back to be back-up to Digne for a season then probably third choice as Nkounkou comes through.
Marc Hints
38 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:00:21
News coming out now: Gabriel transfer has collapsed. Only Everton...
Brian Williams
39 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:11:30
That's if the transfer was ever "on".

Why are people so quick to take media stories as Gospel when they're negative towards the club?

Is it that some Evertonians actually enjoy the moaning and negativity?

Patrick McFarlane
40 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:26:12
I agree, Brian #40, most of what we hear and read about possible transfers is usually speculation due to an agent trying to provoke interest or a media outlet being mischievous and saying 2 plus 2 equals 5.

Why fans take any of it seriously until the player has signed for the club is beyond me. Perhaps, in the case of the lad who moved from Southampton to Tottenham, there was some blame to lay at the club's door as the cat was prematurely let out of the bag; however, it's almost impossible for any deal being completed without news of it leaking because of the immediacy of social media.

When the player is wheeled out for a press conference in his newly donned Everton shirt is the moment when I become truly engaged in the process; the rest of it is just noise.

Brian Williams
41 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:26:39
"Dreeeeeeaaams do come true".......
Brent Stephens
42 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:42:18
We might just wait until we sign him, if indeed we do, before pointing out the difference we sold and bought him for.
Sam Hoare
43 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:52:26
Brian @40, the answer to that last question is undeniably yes. This site is a venting station for many!
Colin Malone
44 Posted 14/08/2020 at 12:56:24
Steve #4.

Spot on. Hopefully Ancelotti will get proven coaches in for the youth and upwards, instead of ex-Everton players being given the positions, with no track record whatsoever.

Jim Harrison
45 Posted 14/08/2020 at 13:07:52
If there is any truth in it, and it's doubtful, if he signed for the same as we sold him, he would have had a year's experience without costing the club a year's wages. Sorted!
Andrew Ellams
46 Posted 14/08/2020 at 13:07:55
Marc Hints, it's not only Everton though is it. Every transfer window is full of deals that fall apart.

This player specifically was reportedly deciding between 4 clubs so there are 3 disappointed parties here alone.

Clive Rogers
47 Posted 14/08/2020 at 13:15:44
The report/rumour with Gabriel was that a £30M fee was agreed months ago but EFC now want to negotiate a lower pandemic fee closer to £20M.
Ian Horan
48 Posted 14/08/2020 at 13:29:46
Signing Antonee would be a win, win in my opinion. We need a good left-winger, push Digne forward, play Robinson at left-back or left centre-back in a 3. Cheap option, then spend big on the midfield. And if poss a striker. I myself would push hard for Gealish; offer £35 mill plus Gylfi.
Gary Carter
49 Posted 14/08/2020 at 13:44:22
Antonee Robinson, when talking about a move, said he wasn't going to go somewhere to be back up. So would he rejoin a club that had got rid of him once already and who had signed a France international left-back from Barcelona for £18 million that has been one of our better players since signing?
Marc Hints
50 Posted 14/08/2020 at 14:01:16
Hi Andrew, yes I do agree.

I just feel sometimes Everton take so much time over transfer dealings, so long that by the time we put a bid in other clubs have got involved.

Patrick McFarlane
51 Posted 14/08/2020 at 14:35:53
Clive #50,

I think you'll find it has turned into a very complex deal and whether a fee of the amount you quote had been agreed is open to debate. Anyway, Sean Lunt has a twitter feed about the ins and outs of that deal plus the Allan deal which have somehow become intertwined:

Alan Johnson
52 Posted 14/08/2020 at 15:31:21
Hey Patrick #54, I just read Sean Lunt's take on this. I would suggest all ToffeeWeb peeps check it out. Explains the poker game going on.

Phill Thompson
53 Posted 14/08/2020 at 15:48:21
I remember Robinson having a cracking pre season when he was 18/19 a few years ago, he lacked game time to help his progression. He's got that at Wigan and if necessary we could get him back for about the same price, 1 year further experience and no wages paid so negligible cash outlay. I'd rate him higher than the supposed £18 mill we were going to pay for a back-up left-back.

Personally I'd give Lewis Gibson a crack at left-back back-up: decent left foot, calm passer of the ball out the back, and he is a centre-back too. Not as good attacking as Robinson but played successfully at left-back for England U17s before joining us.

Gavin Johnson
54 Posted 14/08/2020 at 15:50:57
I advocate this deal happening but I don't think he'll come to us when he can be first choice at Sheffield United.
Jay Harris
55 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:15:54
Like many I was disappointed when we let Robinson and Joe Williams go especially so cheaply. I would I have him back – yes.

Would he want to come back and not get regular game time? I'm not sure... but I doubt it.

Is there a plot afoot to let Digne go? I certainly hope not but who could blame him, playing with some of the numpties we have at the moment?

John Pierce
56 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:19:37
Pistone debacle Mark II.
Jay Wood

57 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:30:09
I wouldn't be averse to his return, but I would be surprised if this happens.

First, pride is at stake. Antonee may just think 'why go back to the club that didn't think I could progress to the first team?'

Second, surely he wants to be playing regularly now. If he is honest, he knows he will only be understudy to Digne at Everton.

I know some conspiracy theories believe Everton may sell Digne, but he – along with the names of Holgate, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin – is a player Carlo Ancelotti said are 'not for sale'. And why sell what is currently your only first-team ready left-back?

Mike Gaynes
58 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:33:06
Yes. Just yes.

Letting him go was a mistake. Getting him back for the same money remedies the mistake. As Adam #26 says, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And as Andrew #15 says, it sometimes works out really well.

Robinson has pace and guts. He came back from the heart surgery that scuppered his move to AC Milan and didn't miss a game for Wigan. There is no downside to this move... if he wants it.

Craig Walker
59 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:33:29
Any chance we could get Luke Garbutt back as well? What a farce.
Richard Mason
60 Posted 14/08/2020 at 16:48:09
A lot of comments here assuming Antonee left on bad terms. It seems he just wanted to get on with his career and Everton did not price him out of a move.

Now that he would be second to Digne, he could be more than happy to come back as he will get game time.

He is not a guaranteed starter in any Premier League team he goes to. Enda Stevens did well for Sheffield Utd this season.

Jack Convery
61 Posted 14/08/2020 at 17:27:34
EFC hate buying players early as we have to start paying them.

If money is tight then Robinson is a no brainer - 2 young fellas vying to be the understudy to Digne. Given the number of games to be played in such a short timescale next season I can see one of them getting game time. If Robinson shows he can hack it in the Premier League, it raises his value and we get a decent profit if we come to sell (again).

No doubt EFC thought Baines would play til he was a pensioner and not leave this summer instead.

Tom Bowers
62 Posted 14/08/2020 at 17:38:28
We haven't signed anyone yet and I suppose one could say no news is good news because we don't need anymore ''bums'' which is all we seem to sign barring the odd exception.

However, we do need to strengthen the starting eleven as what we have is nowhere good enough so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 50 days or so.

The rumor mill is working overtime and Everton are reportedly close to signing a whole bunch of players but I would hazard a guess that only one percent of those rumors are remotely true.

Gavin Johnson
63 Posted 14/08/2020 at 18:05:20
John #59 It's not like the Pistone debacle cos Robinson has his pick of clubs. However, it can be underlined as one if we attempt to buy him and he blows us out for another club.
Robert Tressell
64 Posted 14/08/2020 at 18:55:00
On a different note, Everton Cebolinha has now joined Benfica for £20m. So no Everton to Everton.
Harry Williams
65 Posted 14/08/2020 at 19:15:13
Brands can't be behind bringing him back – that would make him look even more clueless if that's possible??!!
Jay Wood

66 Posted 14/08/2020 at 19:32:39
Robert @ 67.

Yep! As has been reported pretty much all this month, Benfica pursued Cebolinha vigorously since Jorge Jesus returned to the club. Jesus even threw in a smokescreen that we were also negotiating for the player.

It's being reported as €22 million here in Brazil.


Looking forward to see how he does in Europe.

Colin Glassar
67 Posted 14/08/2020 at 19:41:36
We won’t be signing anyone until at least half a dozen stiffs have been sold.
Mike Benjamin
68 Posted 14/08/2020 at 19:41:53
All those criticising Brands, if trying to bring back Robinson is true, then put your brains in gear and think. This time last year, the lad was third choice with no chance of game time but, with Baines leaving, that makes him the backup at a cut price.

What would you have us do, spend £10-15m on a backup that may play 5 games? If we did that the same people would be back on here moaning that we were wasting money.

Trevor Peers
69 Posted 14/08/2020 at 20:18:01
I can't see the sense in re-signing someone who has been assessed and discarded. Unless we are so skint that we are now turning into a youth academy outfit, a bit like Norwich, which has long been the dream of a minority of supporters.

They might well be seeing their dreams come true next season when youth might well be given its chance. The obscene waste of millions and millions on average players may be coming home to roost.

As an Evertonian, I demand to be entertained. Personally I'd be completely disinterested in watching a team with Davies, Kenny and Calvert-Lewin etc struggling every week with their limited technical abilities. I'd take about as much interest in Everton as the weather forecast if that ever happens.

We are very close to going the same way as Leeds United and Aston Villa, when they crashed out of the Premier League because of chronic mis-management... and so there might be no other choice than youth.

Mike Oates
70 Posted 14/08/2020 at 21:32:08
He was sold purely as we didn't have the courage to offload Baines last season. It was as clear as anything that Robinson was the future and Baines had served his time. Kenwright medalling or Brands's lack of courage to discard a 13-year servant... Who knows?
Mike Gaynes
71 Posted 14/08/2020 at 21:47:58
Disagree strongly, Mike. The decision to keep Baines was NOT a mistake, as he proved with his quality play this season.

The mistake was to sell Robinson for pocket change rather than loan him out again.

Hopefully that will be rectified now.

Jerome Shields
72 Posted 14/08/2020 at 23:08:43
I don't think Brands had a great deal of say in Robinson going.

Pressure was on to keep Baines, with the proverbial Everton one year extension. Should have never been sold, Brands probably glad to get the chance of bring him back. A good back up to Digne at reasonable cost, that Brands and Everton know all about, with the bonus of now being medically fit.

Ancelotti probably has got the rundown from his contacts at AC Milan, no less.

Ian Bennett
73 Posted 15/08/2020 at 15:48:14
Robinson for £2m on modest wages seems a smart move.
Carl Manning
74 Posted 16/08/2020 at 10:30:35
It's no surprise Robinson left and the blame isn't at Brands's feet. I'm sure they told him they were happy for him to stay, but last season the guy had Baines and Digne ahead of him. He left, and playing regularly has really brought him on, to such an extent that many teams have noticed his talent.

Even if Baines hadn't been around last season, he would have known he wasn't going to be displacing Digne, and the Wigan move made huge sense.

What is criminal, is no buy-back clause or first-option clause was inserted for a young player, we all felt, had a really good shot at making it at a very good level.

Stephen Vincent
75 Posted 18/08/2020 at 12:26:07
Looks like Antonee Robinson has joined Fulham on a 4-year deal at £50,000 a week for £1.9M. We missed out there, chasing bigger more expensive and unattainable targets.
Jim Williams
76 Posted 18/08/2020 at 19:28:00
Absolute nonsense. We are becoming a laughing stock. Letting players leave for pittances, looking to buy so called quality and being gazumped and used by agents to publicise availability and initial valuations to the big clubs.

We have never succeeded in bringing in any player to Everton who wanted to go to Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea... look at who we have let go to these clubs from our own ranks. Try to think of one with the possible exceptions of Tony Cottee and Dave Thomas, a northerner so probably doesn't count, who came from London and did anything here.

Now even Fulham are a more attractive option... we really are in desperate straits and we need Saint Carlo to save us; he really is our last chance before we become a yoyo club like all the others. Tradition doesn't matter anymore and we are being drawn into this laundered money-swilled trough with the rest of them.

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