According to MailSport, Steve Bruce is keen to build on an English core at St James's Park by adding Davies to his team and the Magpies will apparently try and sign him from the Toffees for around £12m.
Davies was a regular in Everton's first team last season due to injuries suffered by Fabian Delph, André Gomes and Jean-Philippe Gbamin.
The report suggests that Marcel Brands has a higher price tag on Davies and would prefer to jettison some of his higher earners before selling younger players.
Original Source: MailSport
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1 Posted 15/08/2020 at 16:32:55
2 Posted 15/08/2020 at 16:38:01
3 Posted 15/08/2020 at 16:55:44
I think he has not lived up to his promise and, let's face it, he hasn't looked good enough this season but neither have most of them. However, he seems like a good lad who will have a decent professional career.
If that figure is accurate, I think we should give it some serious consideration. Tom too should think carefully; he has been getting grenades all season from the crowd and a change might do him good. If we sold, he would go with warm regards from me.
Personally I'd like to have him as cover next season and we work hard to offload Delph and Gylfi instead. I'd like 2 new CM's please, Allan and a hungry up-and-coming player in the Sangare, McKennie, Koopmeiners category.
4 Posted 15/08/2020 at 16:56:05
5 Posted 15/08/2020 at 16:56:48
6 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:14:02
Get rid of those who don't want to play for Everton first before sacrificing a kid that has talent and might be a late developer. Plus his wages aren't anywhere near those who he is competing with at Goodison. Is that the real reason he might be sold, because to keep him would mean he gets a pay-rise?
7 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:15:51
8 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:17:27
9 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:19:39
10 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:21:36
11 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:31:49
If a great offer came in for Davies, I'd probably take it but I think it's unlikely after his underwhelming season. I think the best thing for him next season may be a loan to a good Championship team (or even Fulham or West Brom); wherever he will be an established starter and get 30+ starts in the central midfield role I think he best suits. Then we'll have a better idea of how good he is.
12 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:36:32
I felt we would have been better keeping Vlasic and Lookman; neither were given enough minutes.
13 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:37:50
Is £12 million for a squad player a good price? Would you be worried about him in an opposition team when we play them? I would say he's worth a bit more, but would take the money to buy the players we really need and look to the academy for back up.
No one stood out in the middle this year, but at least Gomes has some pedigree. Davies has a few good games over the course of a season but never consistently so far. He's no Barkley, who when he was sold undoubtedly had quality but questionable as to whether he could consistently be brilliant. Davies is nowhere near his level
14 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:39:36
I agree with someone above, keep him and sell Sigurdsson.
15 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:42:49
16 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:43:30
17 Posted 15/08/2020 at 17:56:06
18 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:06:52
I find it hard to believe that Newcastle want Tom Davies but, if they do, we should bite their hands off because the useless trio of Davies, Delph and Sigurdsson all need to go.
If we sold Davies for £12M we'd only need to add £3m or so and we could buy Sangare.
19 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:07:00
20 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:13:38
21 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:16:18
22 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:24:01
Unless the Newcastle scout had downed copious amounts of Newcastle Brown Ale, no way would he watch the misplaced passes, lack of movement, snail-like pace and think "Christ, I need to sign this kid!"
As much as I hate seeing Tom Davies in an Everton shirt, he's a good cheap squad player and it makes no sense to flog him at all. Delph is the money leech that needs to go this summer.
23 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:26:02
Sigurdsson has been shite all season, so you'd expect Davies to eclipse him; he hasn't.
I really wanted this kid to progress, but I'm sorry he hasn't. He's not good enough to play midfield for Everton Football Club.
People go on about his age, then maybe we send him out on loan, see how he gets on. But, at this present moment in time, he shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.
I honestly think Carlo has been constantly been playing him, so he can say to the board, "Look what I'm working with?"
Onwards and upwards UTFT.
24 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:34:34
Like others, I would rather see Delph and Sigurdsson gone. If he was available for sale, there'd be plenty of takers.
25 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:43:22
The Everton midfield has been a disaster for the last 3 or 4 years. Tom has at least been trying to get in the ball, dictate the play and get stuck in.
If we sell him, so be it, but I can't help feeling that there is a player in there somewhere. He needs to work on ball retention, but there are players I would like to get rid of before him...
26 Posted 15/08/2020 at 18:52:48
27 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:09:59
So... um... just curious... has anybody come in for Sigurdsson?
Wanting to sell a player is only half the equation. Somebody has to want to buy them.
Selling or not selling Davies is totally unrelated to selling Sigurdsson.
28 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:17:50
There's a few others on higher wages (crippling us) I'd prefer to see gone and at least a couple of decent midfield players brought in – plus Gbamin back. Tom then gets a chance to develop without having the big load he's had on his back, given the dross he's had around him.
29 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:18:14
30 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:20:57
31 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:25:53
Given Gbamin simply can't be relied on, that means we already only have Delph, Davies, Gomes and Sigurdsson to call on here.
Delph is an expensive crock who'll spend at least half the season injured. Sigurdsson isn't really even a centre-midfielder to begin with, and has shown he hasn't got the bottle to become one.
So, even if we got 1-2 new ones in, it would still be a huge gamble to get rid of Tom before we know if Gbamin can make it back.
Personally, I think I'd rather take the gamble that we can get rid of Sigurdsson or Delph later in the window. Maybe they don't want to go, or no-one will buy them (as Mike says); it's still a better gamble than letting Tom leave with the lack of depth we have at the moment.
32 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:26:56
As he is probably contracted on a lot less money and tenure than the others, they are likely to let him go at the right price.
33 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:31:57
His sale would certainly cause a big problem: who would the boo-boys use as their whipping boy?
34 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:33:20
Get rid of Delph. Someone must want or need him, followed by Bolasie, Sandro and Tosun, keep Tom for nest season then make a decision.
35 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:42:27
How many of the games he has played in thus far, has he actually shone in? It's all very well saying with better players round him etc, etc. If he had genuine talent, it would have well surfaced and been visible by now!
36 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:44:53
37 Posted 15/08/2020 at 19:52:01
But I'd keep Tom, all season, and priority offload Delph, Sigurdsson,etc the shirkers, the lazy arses, who don't have any commitment to the cause on the park.
I hope that we don't trade any of Everton's decent assets and become an even worse squad.
Surely this preseason, some proven players can be brought in to bolster the squad with a good fit and chemistry.
38 Posted 15/08/2020 at 20:40:22
Now can we keep this to a should we sell or not Tom, imo he has had a similar rise to Jack Rodwell. The latest golden child from the acadamy, ummm that went well.
To me, Tom will be a journeyman, lower Premier League or Championship at best. However, a squad player, yes, for £20 mill I would sell. But again we all have opinions to which none of us are wrong – just different levels of perception.
39 Posted 15/08/2020 at 20:46:18
Davies would never get anywhere near Liverpool's first team. I doubt he would make it into the first team of the majority of Premier League clubs. He's not big enough, strong enough, fast enough, nor scores enough.
If Gueye was still at the club, he would be a bench warmer. Once we get rid of crocks like Delph and underperformers like Sigurdsson, and bring in better players, he will be a bench warmer or he'll be gone entirely.
40 Posted 15/08/2020 at 20:52:41
41 Posted 15/08/2020 at 21:06:57
Fingers crossed Ancelotti knows what players he wants and the system to get the best out of them. There is a player still in Sigurdsson but not on the left and not in centre-mid.
And why the feck we bought both Delph and Iwobi in the same window, while we had Bernard, I will never know... nobody will. One of life's great mysteries.
Not looking forward to this season at all. All we have is another set of shit players to get rid of.
42 Posted 15/08/2020 at 21:13:52
43 Posted 15/08/2020 at 21:18:14
Tom is on £25k so there's no real need to sell, he would be a useful squad player, who can change the dynamic coming on a sub. Also, he may step it up over the next season or two as he matures.
As he is on a (relatively!) low wage so keep him, unless they make an offer we can't refuse like £20m.
44 Posted 15/08/2020 at 21:37:00
45 Posted 15/08/2020 at 21:48:45
Nobody in Europe or the Premier League will match the wages of Sigurdsson, Gomes, Bernard, Iwobi or Delph, we are stuck with them, some of them until 2024! We have been well and truly sold down the river.
46 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:16:28
47 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:24:53
I wouldnt be surprised if we are forced to sell Richarlison and/or Pickford. Selling this deadwood is a pipe dream. And you cant blame Brands a great deal for most of it. Blame starts at the very top and we lost the heart of a competitive team after Cahill left. It hasnt been replaced. The current crop dont give a toss and thats not going to change. Why would Delph, Iwobi or Walcott give their all for Everton? Theres no affinity.
Sadly, over the past 25 years as a club we chose a terrible time to be poor, followed by a terrible time to be wealthy.
48 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:32:46
Bolasie and Sandro might both fit that formation. And let's face it, if we can't flog 'em, we might as well play 'em. We've been making millionaires of these dogs for the past umpteen years with no discernible result.
49 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:34:54
50 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:51:31
Right now, I cannot see where Tom Davies excels, and the fact that others on here seem to recommend him staying in our first-team squad based on his relatively low wages, his locality, his early potential, and his desire to play for Everton Football Club tells me that, in pure footballing terms, nobody else is entirely sure where he excels either.
Seems like a really likeable fella but I can't see him turning the corner and becoming a first-team regular in a decent Everton side.
51 Posted 15/08/2020 at 22:54:14
52 Posted 15/08/2020 at 23:17:58
53 Posted 15/08/2020 at 23:20:53
54 Posted 15/08/2020 at 23:25:37
55 Posted 16/08/2020 at 00:46:03
Also, the pressure to succeed at your boyhood club is difficult. Also, how many managers as he worked under in his young football life? Not good for continuity and development.
The manager needs to move players on. I expect more to be leaving.
56 Posted 16/08/2020 at 01:50:59
I can't find the article by Paul The Esk, but I'm sure he was saying that homegrown players like Davies would benefit our P&L account the most and therefore also improve our FFP standing.
57 Posted 16/08/2020 at 02:18:26
58 Posted 16/08/2020 at 03:35:34
Just another rumour to debate... I often wonder if the manager or owner of Everton read these threads? If they do, the would have a good laugh at the comments.
59 Posted 16/08/2020 at 04:11:02
I really can't believe that anyone would want Davies to stay. Sigurdsson, Delph and Davies all need to go. £12m certainly exceeds my expectations on what we could get for him.
60 Posted 16/08/2020 at 04:58:32
We failed to produce these type of assets in any great numbers or for any decent fees. Kenny could be another valued at around £8M of you believe the websites.
Davies has had ample time to define himself, I might add – in several poor teams under different managers, both in time and number of games played.
To get a decent price makes good sense.
61 Posted 16/08/2020 at 07:07:18
For a £12 million fee, I would imagine the club would sell Walcott and Delph as a combined package to get them off the wage bill. As the season gets closer, that may be the sort of deal that one of the bottom six clubs may be desperate enough to risk.
62 Posted 16/08/2020 at 07:37:14
He has had some poor games but also the kid has often been our only decent performer in that midfield. I would hold on to him and hope that with someone like Gana Gueye in the mix, we might see him get on the front foot more often.
Whatever the views on his talents, the guy always puts in a shift, which isn't something we can say about half of that team.
63 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:01:25
64 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:16:29
I also made my comment about this not being a Tom-bashing thread because I believe it's possible for us to have a measured debate about the logistics and pros & cons of this. My view was some would just use the thread as a means to put the lad down.
65 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:25:04
Gylfi is proven in his preferred position! Even while playing for us! There will be options for Gylfi this summer and, if he goes, he will get back to producing his numbers when played in his favourite position.
66 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:33:24
You're living in a fantasy world if you think players on £80 to £100 grand a week will be 'moved on ' just because you don't like them. These players will never be offered those salaries anywhere else and will sit tight until their contracts end. Get real, mate.
67 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:38:39
Sometimes you have to Go to Grow... if indeed you can.
68 Posted 16/08/2020 at 08:43:46
Please someone at this club get Gueye back (still better than any midfielder we have) and buy players who can fucking run! Sick and tired of watching blokes in our midfield pass it backwards – they do this because they are too lazy to follow their ball in – or physically can't. What a shambles of a club.
Amazing when you consider Holgate looked a better midfielder than the lot of them, and he's our centre-half! No wonder our defence looks shaky, I wouldn't fancy playing behind that shower of shit in front of them. Gordon looks a good lad, but how long before he becomes pissed off with it?
There are better players in the Championship to buy now.
69 Posted 16/08/2020 at 09:08:17
70 Posted 16/08/2020 at 09:28:40
71 Posted 16/08/2020 at 10:24:04
Carl @64, yes, I agree, he just hasn't fitted since Koeman left, we have been shoehorning him in ever since. As I said, not entirely his fault but the decision to sign him has held us back ever since.
72 Posted 16/08/2020 at 10:51:45
It looks like he's willing to cash in on Davies and maybe Pickford to finance any summer deals.
73 Posted 16/08/2020 at 11:14:37
We should reject offers for Tom and keep him as a squad player, He will develop and has potential resale value. His salary is £25k/wk so the risk is low on keeping him. Not everyone's opinion, but I believe he contributed more than Sigurdsson last season.
Equally, we should attempt to either sell or loan Sigurdsson before the transfer deadline. He doesn't fit any system we employ, he slows our play, his impact is minimal and his standards have declined. His salary of £100k/wk limits our ability to sign players and meet FFP requirements, so we should consider subsidising part of his salary if he goes out on loan.
74 Posted 16/08/2020 at 12:18:42
Seriously though, Tom is cheap, seems to stay injury-free, and he can provide cover, be used as a sub to inject a bit of energy, and who knows as he is young – there will still be improvement in him as he matures and toughens up a bit.
75 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:13:44
76 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:23:57
For £12M and comparatively low wages, would we get a player better than Davies? Our recent track record of wasting huge sums on expensive second-raters suggests not.
77 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:27:02
78 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:30:35
23-year-old with over 100 games at the top level. Potential to improve further. Even with a tail off of prices post-Covid, he should still fetch at least £20M.
Remember we would need to buy am adequate replacement and I just don't see us being able to replace Davies adequately for £12M.
The short-sightedness of some people on here never ceases to amaze me.
79 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:32:49
80 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:32:58
Pointless to sell him for the quoted £12 mill and £25 thousand a week wage. Who would we get to replace him with for that??
81 Posted 16/08/2020 at 13:48:13
82 Posted 16/08/2020 at 14:22:02
The best hopes and will in the world won't help Tom become a stalwart of EFC, it won't happen. In my view, he's never kicked on, and 5 years tells a story. He's been playing in some rank teams, but his level has not improved.
Better for all concerned if Tom follows in the path of other younger players who've left Everton and looks elsewhere.
83 Posted 16/08/2020 at 14:41:55
84 Posted 16/08/2020 at 15:07:57
And yes, we can expect to pay double what we'd likely get for Davies. Why keep him if we want to improve? Deadwood will continue to float unless you take it out of the water.
85 Posted 16/08/2020 at 15:31:12
86 Posted 16/08/2020 at 15:47:45
87 Posted 16/08/2020 at 16:11:37
Football is now a global game, the local owners and local one club man are consigned to history Carragher and G Neville where the last of the one club men.
If Davies can't influence the game nor get a game ahead of a woefull midfield apart from injuries then what does he offer!!!!
88 Posted 16/08/2020 at 16:18:04
We need the deadwood who are earning £80 to 120 thousand a week moving on first so we can afford to buy the quality of player we need to progress.
89 Posted 16/08/2020 at 17:18:14
Tom Davies could make an impact there and help them get promoted. David Brooks is ready to make the step up to a bigger club and would be a very good signing to strengthen our midfield with quality, a young player who can bring us some much-needed energy.
Can someone please ask Marcel to try to make it happen.
90 Posted 16/08/2020 at 17:39:19
I never mentioned giving anyone £80k a week. Of course we'd love the deadwood "earning" £80 to 120k a week to be moved on first but I don't see any rumours that anyone wants to take them.
We can't hold up everything until their contracts run out. If we get some decent offer for Davies, take it to put towards a better replacement.
91 Posted 16/08/2020 at 17:39:58
In an ideal world the biggest earners should go first, but therein lies the problem. Sell who you can for as much as you can, free up the space.
Who's going to be happy watching the same crud being served up by the same midfielders, who, let's be honest, have had enough chances to prove themselves.
Of course I remove Gordon from my rant, as he's been a breath of fresh air. Stay well.
92 Posted 16/08/2020 at 18:07:05
93 Posted 16/08/2020 at 18:10:00
94 Posted 16/08/2020 at 18:53:23
95 Posted 16/08/2020 at 19:00:34
He needs to improve, and he should never play defensive midfield, and he'll probably never be top top quality, but I'd rather Davies in the squad over the other midfielders we have. He has potential to improve; the others absolutely do not.
96 Posted 16/08/2020 at 19:15:21
Some will say under Moyes; I will agree that we lived within our means, but well-run clubs only sell players when they want to, and hopefully but painfully slowly, things might begin to change once we can shift the rest of the deadwood on massive wages.
97 Posted 16/08/2020 at 19:59:13
98 Posted 16/08/2020 at 20:09:38
Harry Wilson is in demand; he was a big success on loan at Derby, then had a decent start at Bournemouth that then tailed off when Bournemouth lost their mojo. His stock has risen in the last two years.
We sadly cannot say the same about Tom Davies, who is at best treading water and at worst showing that his early promise was a false dawn. I'd happily swap Davies for Wilson.
99 Posted 16/08/2020 at 20:12:37
100 Posted 16/08/2020 at 21:04:26
Tom could double his salary and maybe develop with more game time and also the weight of the 'local boy' status.
101 Posted 16/08/2020 at 21:23:17
102 Posted 16/08/2020 at 21:37:23
Yes, he's not alone but people saying keep him cause he's cheap, I'll be cheaper and still be able to tackle and pass to a blue shirt!!!!!
We need to get rid of all the average players if we ever want to be a good team again!!!
Watch Howard's Way and, I promise you, you will be heartbroken at how low we have fallen, what an amazing team that was. They would piss the Premier League now... happy days.
103 Posted 16/08/2020 at 22:06:02
Give me Davies over Delph, Gbamin, Baningime or Sigurdsson all day long.
He has over 100 appearances for us but "isn't Premier League class" is just contradictory.
I am not saying he is a world beater but, in the current squad, he plays every week. With our recent transfer record, £12M would just about buy us half a Gbamin or another Niasse.
104 Posted 16/08/2020 at 22:33:14
Comments like yours lack knowledge; Delph, yes I agree. Banigime ain't going to cut it.
Gylfi in his first season was leading goal scorer; second season moved around the pitch to accommodate Rooney; this last season, he has been poor but Messi and Ronaldo would be poor in that team. By the way, Gylfi is a Number 10 not a DCM or CM.
At least be realistic and fair who you compare Davies to...
105 Posted 16/08/2020 at 22:34:47
106 Posted 16/08/2020 at 23:27:08
Now I wonder if Delph ever played for a top six side???
107 Posted 17/08/2020 at 07:20:11
Tom is a good pro, it seems, but I look at him and don't see any signs that he has the technical ability or the physical ability to be in that midfield. In the long term.
£12M is a fair price in the market, and for me, he doesn't need replacing as a squad player. Delph really has to be that man. Money goes towards a quality replacement. Tom has played a lot of games really only down to the curious injury crisis of Gomes, Delph, and Gbamin. I also would say Besic (though I expect him to leave) is also a better one in reserve than Tom if you can sell him and bank that £12M.
Gylfi is a bigger priority, yes, but there is no chance of him leaving until next summer. A team may offer him a tempting 2-year-deal when he has only 12 months left with us that may see his stance change I guess.
108 Posted 17/08/2020 at 07:57:55
109 Posted 17/08/2020 at 09:31:24
Let's face it – whatever midfielder we sell won't be any great loss.
110 Posted 17/08/2020 at 10:55:43
111 Posted 17/08/2020 at 11:08:18
Are you saying that you would prefer a player who is injured instead of someone who isn't?
Lacking knowledge, how about lacking logic.
My point is that, although we know Davies isn't going to be a top player, he has over 100 appearances for the Blues under several managers. Whether we like it or not, he is more of an asset to the club than Delph, Gbamin, or Baningime.
112 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:04:32
I think it is worrying times now and relegation is on the agenda. We are a sinking ship. See the article which I agree:
113 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:25:23
As far as Tom Davies is concerned I think we can do without him. He's a good lad but certainly ain't the kind of player we need in the side to win trophies.
Good luck to him in whatever he does, Barcodes or elsewhere!
114 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:28:36
Personally speaking, instead of blowing £25M on Allan, I'd be looking at buying these two cos we need more than one midfielder.
115 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:38:31
The crap in this club from top to bottom is not exactly engendering much enthusiasm.
116 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:47:31
117 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:51:37
What is there to miss? Only the laughable comments from people who think he's decent.
118 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:54:39
I believe we will sign 2 more central midfielders and so Davies will be right down the pecking order. We do need backup, and League One bound Baningime is not it. We need to offload Delph and Sigurdsson not Davies.
Davies's replacement is already here, 17-year-old Tyler Onyango. Wait until Tyler is showing sufficient improvement and then sell Tom. Until then, he's worth a spot as fourth or fifth choice, which means sitting in the stands when everyone is fit.
As for someone else taking such a position from the U23s... we don't have anyone!
119 Posted 17/08/2020 at 14:54:40
I wouldn't have either anywhere near the team. The Delph issue is he was a decent player but Injuries are the issue Delph is an all or nothing type of player or maybe reckless. Our only hope is Leeds fancy a returning prodigal son.
Delph is on £80k a week, his original contract was 2 years with an option of a 3rd year. So he will be gone next summer as I don't believe he will be offered the 3rd year and if he is Everton as a business deserves to go the way of Leeds, Portsmouth and Sunderland.
I am actually interested to see a fully fit Gbamin 6'-3" in midfield or as emergency centre-back. We can then judge Gbamin after a good run of games.
120 Posted 17/08/2020 at 15:26:44
If he has failed to fulfil his potential, then I put this down to the succession of managers we've had over the past couple of years. Personally I would always pick him ahead of Delph, Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Walcott and Bernard.
121 Posted 17/08/2020 at 15:31:29
Just trying to put it into perspective why we should snap the barcodes hand off if there's any truth to the rumour.
Steve, if we bring in two midfielders, you don't think Adeniran could be promoted in Davies's place?
He would after all be 5th, 6th or even 7th choice anyway, considering its unlikely we're have no takers for Sigurdsson and Delph, plus we've got Gomes, Gbamin and two likely coming in
122 Posted 17/08/2020 at 15:38:22
Very worrying times to be an Evertonian.
123 Posted 17/08/2020 at 15:50:47
Tom is a trier but, for £25k per week, I would run all day. Tom's second touch is always a tackle
Geoff admirable support of Davies, but I have to ask: Are you related to him? – I can't understand your blind faith in him.
124 Posted 17/08/2020 at 16:21:48
Without better players now, this team is only good for 10th or lower. There just doesn't seem any urgency from anyone at Everton anymore.
125 Posted 17/08/2020 at 17:29:55
Having said that, he would probably be great at Newcastle.
Gbamin is an unknown quantity so we will have to see (if he ever gets 100% fit) but I can't see Iwobi and the others becoming solid midfield options.
126 Posted 17/08/2020 at 18:58:47
And not wishing to tempt fate, it would not be a surprise if Richarlison or Digne left late in the window just to rub salt in the wounds (again).
Just hope I am proved wrong.
127 Posted 17/08/2020 at 19:09:18
I've also seen the story where we're pulling out of the race for Gabriel. It's a shame cos a pairing of him and Holgate might have been the strongest since Lescott and Jags. However we're well stocked in that area and I think the money should now go towards a 2nd midfielder.
128 Posted 17/08/2020 at 19:39:53
However, if there is another season of underachievement, I'm sure they will be looking to a different future, especially Richarlison.
129 Posted 17/08/2020 at 19:49:01
He fits very much into the mould of players Moyes used to sign when he signed players who could play multiple positions. The only drawback is that he's another 29-year-old. If we could get him on loan, it could be a very good deal.
130 Posted 17/08/2020 at 19:50:33
Delph signed a 3-year contract unfortunately. I'd have Davies over him any day, especially as a squad player.
Davies is 8 years younger, his salary is over 3 times less than Delph, and even though he was played out of position, as defensive midfielder, and at times was carrying an injury, he never cried off.
Hopefully Koeman will get the Barca job, and take Sigurdsson and Bolasie, two of his great signings!
131 Posted 17/08/2020 at 20:24:33
132 Posted 18/08/2020 at 02:06:13
133 Posted 18/08/2020 at 06:55:41
I don't think under Carlo this is a relegation-threatened team. I think Pickford will improve, I feel Mina and Holgate are solid with Keane in reserve. Up front, Richarlison and one of Kean or Calvert-Lewin have a threat.
Worst-case scenario: a midfield of Gomes, a new defensive mid and Iwobi will be good enough to keep us okay.
It's inconceivable that we won't sign at least one midfielder. I believe that we will get by if that is the only addition.
Window runs until October, and I reckon there will be an awful lot of late loan deals.
134 Posted 18/08/2020 at 09:48:35
135 Posted 18/08/2020 at 10:03:50
But this rebuild is going to now be very gradual.
What with Covid-19 and our balance sheet.
I think we need a 3-year plan to even challenge for top six right now. We need to rip up the Moshiri project and start again.
136 Posted 18/08/2020 at 12:27:20
137 Posted 18/08/2020 at 14:01:17
Yes, Davies wasn't brilliant at the end of the season, but in most games he was hampered with the saddle on his back covering for and carrying Gomes.
138 Posted 18/08/2020 at 14:15:52
139 Posted 18/08/2020 at 14:42:36
On another note... can anyone tell me what this EFL Cup draw is?
I can't find any mention of us in the draw.
140 Posted 18/08/2020 at 14:44:41
We have to get value out of these transfers given what we have squandered in the last four years.
141 Posted 18/08/2020 at 15:41:40
142 Posted 18/08/2020 at 17:58:05
143 Posted 18/08/2020 at 17:58:18
It is the first round. Premier League clubs not in European competitions enter in the second round.
144 Posted 18/08/2020 at 18:20:59
Players worth having want European football. This is why Arteta was always going to choose Arsenal.
Things really are grim. We have only 2 players a top 8 team would be interested in, maybe 3 with Kean in another 12 months.
145 Posted 18/08/2020 at 19:26:40
I'd rather someone like Sangare and Allan. Allan would go straight into the team whilst Sangare would learn and come in for the odd game, or replace Gomes if he continues his poor form.
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