Watford are said to be holding out for £35m for Doucouré, a paltry £1.5m less than the offer from Everton they were said to have knocked back for him last year.
According to reports, Everton are looking to pay £25m for the 27-year-old Frenchman and are hoping that Watford's relegation to the Championship has improved their bargaining position, particularly while they continue to pursue Napoli's Allan.
Original Source: Sky Sports
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1 Posted 25/08/2020 at 20:48:43
The man, and his choice in the first place has got to raise serious question marks, not only over his ability to even be considered for a job like Everton, but who pursued him relentlessly and why?
Anyway, water under the proverbial bridge, they seem like a club who not only should realise that they have been relegated, but should also welcome decent offers for their saleable assets. I believe they paid about £15M (may be wrong) for him so they are almost doubling their money for a player who like all, is not getting any younger.
I just hope and pray that something positive is about to happen both with outgoings and incomings in the next few days!
2 Posted 25/08/2020 at 20:50:25
If you want the player, pay the money; we can afford it.
3 Posted 25/08/2020 at 20:51:47
4 Posted 25/08/2020 at 20:53:42
5 Posted 25/08/2020 at 20:55:34
Apparently Koeman has told Messi that there will no longer be any special privileges for him at Barca and the Argentinian wants to leave.
PSG are readying the axe for Tuchel and might make a move for Carlo because of his ability to win the Champions League.
It will be most interesting to see what develops all over Europe but will Everton be winners or losers in the crazy merry-go-round?
6 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:02:21
7 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:13:16
8 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:17:59
I hope we might try and shed this reputation. Watford and Napoli are tough teams to deal with but Allan especially is not in Gattuso's plans and will drop sharply in value over the next year or two.
There are lots of other options out there and we must be flexible if needs be. I suspect FFP and Covid-19 may mean we don't have money to throw around like 3 years ago.
9 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:18:36
10 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:19:42
11 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:34:11
12 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:37:44
13 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:54:34
14 Posted 25/08/2020 at 21:57:52
15 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:05:05
Then leave the £25M on the table for Doucouré whilst we look elsewhere for equal or better alternatives. We won't need to be held to ransom for that deal. Look for younger, hungry midfielders on the up to compliment and learn from Allan and Ancelotti, investments with resale value.
Playing hardball with the main signing could backfire, we should grudgingly compromise and get that one in the bag as an insurance.
16 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:08:08
17 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:08:24
However we cut it, I'm confident that – come the start of the season – our first 11 will look better than last season's, with the enticing prospect of a 7th or 8th place finish.
18 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:13:25
19 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:16:39
20 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:19:23
I think buying one more experienced option in midfield is needed but we also have a need to protect the financial future of the club. If we were close to winning a trophy or breaking top 4, it would make more sense, but we are not.
21 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:21:20
The Sigurdsson deal did us no favours at all.
22 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:25:28
23 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:28:03
24 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:40:33
25 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:44:00
26 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:55:18
27 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:55:42
28 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:57:14
29 Posted 25/08/2020 at 22:58:32
30 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:02:16
Sky are breaking this now. That's come out of left field a bit, given weve been linked with him but nothing concrete.
Would certainly improve our wing options.
31 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:03:11
Is that not the problem that got us in the mess were in with Gylfi, Iwobi etc? Weve had our pants pulled down and everyone complains, we try to cut our cloth and everyone complains?!!
For what its worth I think Allan is worth a big fee regardless of his age and sell on value because he plugs the biggest hole in our squad. We could sign Ronaldo but with no fight wed still get pasted every week.
32 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:05:36
33 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:13:42
34 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:14:19
35 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:25:20
Nothing ever changes.
36 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:26:19
37 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:29:35
Koulibaly - remember us "Linked" (now there's a nice vague word for transfer speculations) with him back in Koeman's time? The figure mooted then was 40 million. More recently, figures of 70 - 80 were mentioned in connection with other clubs. It really is a crazy scene.
Messi, 2 mil per week! Jeez, takes me months to earn that kind of money... or was it, my whole life, I forget now.
38 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:36:07
39 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:39:19
40 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:43:38
41 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:51:09
Quality and mentality in big heaps are what we need in midfield. If we get three good years out of him with a corresponding improvement in the team performances, then he will be well worth it.
Same goes for Doucouré.
A midfield of Gomes, Allan and Doucouré would do me fine.
42 Posted 25/08/2020 at 23:56:11
Who cares if they've got no sell-on value, we will have made more out of league placings and maybe even winning a cup.
Every man and his dog knows we need midfield replacements and, if we get some known quality in there, it will transform us. Allan definitely fits that category; not so sure we can't do better than Doucouré... and Rodriguez, if he can stay fit, will be a real boost.
43 Posted 26/08/2020 at 00:19:34
We are now in a shit-or-bust situation: Moshiri's return or sell-on value of Everton FC needs guaranteed Premier League and the delivery of Bramley-Moore Dock. Only then will he get his money back. BMD and top 8 will probably get him £1.5 billion. The Premier League money will cover the 29-year-old signings.
The Moneyball approach will be the output from Brands's work restructuring the academy... oh, and shifting the rest of the deadwood!!!
44 Posted 26/08/2020 at 01:14:53
Everton: a Club that can go into a negotiation revolving door ahead of someone and come out behind.
Not only is it going to be a long time until Spurs, it'll be a long time until Deadline Day... with many twists and turns along the way.
Seems t'was ever thus for The County Road Casuals.
45 Posted 26/08/2020 at 01:31:04
46 Posted 26/08/2020 at 01:33:48
47 Posted 26/08/2020 at 02:43:56
That level of talent in our midfield could change everything, instantly. James has pace, touch and a level of passing ability that we have not seen in a blue shirt in a generation. And he can score from anywhere with that cannon left foot.
Yes, his career has gone seriously off the rails at 29, but this is a no-risk proposition. Even if his longtime friend Carlo can't straighten him out, he'll still be our best midfielder by a mile, and his creativity could turn Richarlison into a 20-goal scorer.
But if Carlo can help him regain anything close to his level of a few years ago, he will light Goodison on fire. Nobody else we've been discussing this summer even comes close to his talent.
I like this compilation of his Real Madrid highlights, especially because of who he's posing with in the first clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrWeT0Ire-0
48 Posted 26/08/2020 at 03:24:02
My only concern is his recent injury record.
49 Posted 26/08/2020 at 03:45:31
No question he's a gamble. But the possible upside is so huge that I think he's worth it. And he won't be expensive, so the downside is limited.
Besides, even if he has a bum knee and a bad attitude (which I doubt, or Carlo wouldn't take him), he'll still be better than Gomes, Iwobi and Sigurdsson put together.
50 Posted 26/08/2020 at 04:20:52
51 Posted 26/08/2020 at 05:37:31
52 Posted 26/08/2020 at 05:55:55
53 Posted 26/08/2020 at 06:07:35
Rodriguez, Allan and Doucoure in midfield would do quite nicely for me... we'll see if it happens.
54 Posted 26/08/2020 at 07:34:38
55 Posted 26/08/2020 at 07:49:53
Andrew (54), these 3 would be backed up by Gbamin, Gomes and Davies (and we are able to move on Delph, Besic, Sigurdsson). This is assuming Carlo deploys a 4-3-3 formation. The front 3 would be Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin and Gordon/Kean/Bolasie/Iwobi.
Probably Walcott and Tosun will be moved on and also 1 of Bolasie/Kean. In which case, Carlo might bring in one more right-sided winger/forward - maybe Chucky Lozano on loan from Napoli with an option to buy at a pre-agreed price.
With these incomings and outgoings, and assuming we do not have significant injury problems, I would go into the season with quiet confidence that we will compete for the top-6 positions. Goalkeeping and defence can be strengthened in subsequent windows.
56 Posted 26/08/2020 at 07:57:06
57 Posted 26/08/2020 at 08:25:29
If the reports are true, he will sign.
58 Posted 26/08/2020 at 08:39:21
I would like to add other players but only after we secure that position. It would be wonderful if we could buy for the future but we have to improve now.
59 Posted 26/08/2020 at 09:17:45
Start our vicious circle of being an attractive club to the best young players.
Let our first team players and Carlo improve the young players at a quicker rate, and this will help Moshiri build player asset values to pay back much of the debt/investment he's made to us in good faith so far.
But more importantly, we can get back to really enjoy watching the team again with a world class manager at the helm of our great club!
60 Posted 26/08/2020 at 11:51:22
All this with bags of Premier League experience to boot. If we can get him for anything close to £25M, then it's a no-brainer.
61 Posted 26/08/2020 at 13:55:48
62 Posted 26/08/2020 at 13:59:10
63 Posted 26/08/2020 at 17:26:36
64 Posted 26/08/2020 at 17:42:31
In general, we should be looking at loan to buy transfers. Less risk and we have cash to stump up for an initial £x millions loan fee.
The Watford board can come back begging us as they struggle in the Championship.
65 Posted 27/08/2020 at 00:25:56
66 Posted 27/08/2020 at 00:40:22
Football in the 20th century.
67 Posted 28/08/2020 at 10:10:01
If Everton pays that, I will be appalled.
68 Posted 28/08/2020 at 10:24:30
69 Posted 28/08/2020 at 13:16:59
70 Posted 28/08/2020 at 13:29:14
(The above is a "school dinners" reference – I am not sure if the expression is still in common currency.)
71 Posted 28/08/2020 at 13:45:41
72 Posted 28/08/2020 at 14:00:23
I read that too, mind we have plenty of players for them to choose from, Seeing they are likely to lose Sarr as well maybe Bolasie would be of interest to them. Also Besic if they are looking for a midfield player.
73 Posted 28/08/2020 at 14:13:01
The expression "sloppy seconds" tends to have a different meaning these days. :-)
74 Posted 28/08/2020 at 14:13:34
75 Posted 28/08/2020 at 14:21:24
76 Posted 28/08/2020 at 14:24:51
Have you ever looked up "roly poly" (an innocent sort of jam Swiss Roll thing in my day) in a modern urban dictionary?
77 Posted 28/08/2020 at 15:04:06
78 Posted 28/08/2020 at 16:01:47
79 Posted 28/08/2020 at 16:05:31
80 Posted 28/08/2020 at 16:14:11
That's a good shout with Baningame, I was thinking of Besic but we may be able to sell him and Beni would certainly benefit from another loan although I don't think his contract has long to run either.
81 Posted 28/08/2020 at 16:17:15
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