Fabrizio Romano of The Guardian, Ryan Taylor of The Express, and Paddy Boyland and Simon Johnson of The Athletic suggest that the 22-year-old could join the Blues after the Londoners signed free agent Thiago Silva.
Tomori has cut his teeth with loan spells at Brighton, Hull City and Derby County in recent seasons and is seen as a valuable addition to bolster Carlo Ancelotti's options at centre-half.
Rennes were said to be strong suitors to take the Canadian-born centre-half this season but it appears as though Everton have stolen a march in being able to keep him in the Premier League.
The Athletic say that, "talks are progressing well between the two sides" in reviving a loan deal that was mooted last summer and which has been revived in the wake of Mason Holgate's pre-season injury which looks likely to keep him out of the season-opener at Tottenham on Sunday and possibly a few weeks beyond.
Sky Sports also report that the Toffees are "closing in" on a loan deal for Tomori.
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1 Posted 08/09/2020 at 15:50:22
2 Posted 08/09/2020 at 15:52:57
3 Posted 08/09/2020 at 15:56:35
4 Posted 08/09/2020 at 15:58:36
5 Posted 08/09/2020 at 15:58:39
To everybody who said we need more pace at the back: Problem solved. This kid is so quick he brings to mind the Cool Papa Bell story about turning off the lights and making it into bed before the room gets dark. We were supposed to get this loan a year ago... the timing is even better now.
6 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:05:34
7 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:06:34
8 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:07:51
9 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:10:59
10 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:11:50
That was Muhammad Ali, Mike, not Taco Bell or whoever you mentioned.
11 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:12:16
12 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:13:01
13 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:18:16
But no, it wasn't Ali. Cool Papa Bell was a baseball player in the old US Negro Leagues. If you're interested: https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/bell-cool-papa
14 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:21:15
15 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:21:24
Tomori could be anything so fingers crossed we have some sort of option to buy but l doubt it.
We are getting closer with this squad.
16 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:22:10
This move allows us to add another very decent (and fast) defender for low cost. He can play instead of Holgate or possibly with him if we wanted to play a higher line.
I doubt there will be a purchase option but we have a season to scout centre-backs and buy one next summer.
17 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:25:37
18 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:25:49
I would rather we back the kids and give them a path to the first team. Honestly if we buy another centre-back then just sell one of Gibson or Branthwaite in my opinion.
A loan works better in that it gives ours a year to progress on loan themselves... then send Tomori back and promote our own youth recruits... both of whom were bought as high-potential first-teamers.
19 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:28:00
20 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:29:14
Tomori is way down the Chelsea pecking order for a reason. Zouma, Christianson, Rudiger are all better than him. There are some very good centre-backs out there like Mee, Tarkowski, Dunk, Egan, etc.
I would rather we rely on our own kids than give game time to him and then watch as he slots back into their side with plenty of game time under his belt whilst our hopefulls remain Premier League virgins.
21 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:29:49
I think there's a fair chance he'll oust both Keane and Mina this season. In games where we defend deeper, counterattacking against better sides, will Keane or Mina be useful?
One of Gibson or Branthwaite were always going on loan.
For me it's the right profile of player, speed and recovery, and a stop-gap until we target a more rounded centre-back.
22 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:33:19
23 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:33:30
24 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:33:42
25 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:34:58
We definitely need pace at the back too. This would then allow us to loan one of the lads out if we really wanted to. But I'd prefer Branthwaite to remain with the U23s for now and Gibson to be on the bench unless everyone is fit (which they aren't).
26 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:36:24
As mentioned before, it would have been nice to have an option to buy in the agreement but a nice addition to the squad if it all goes through.
27 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:38:39
I know the verdict is still out on Mina due to a run of niggling injuries that has not allowed him to show top form. I think he will become a top defender for us and I know he is going to score goals from those set-pieces.
28 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:39:52
It may be controversial, but for me, Keane is still our best centre-back with Holgate coming through. The lad gets some unfair criticism on here, he's never going to be a fluent, ball-playing centre-back but, call me old-fashioned, I like defenders to defend first and foremost rather than win style awards.
29 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:40:09
30 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:42:30
He is like Danny Rose, Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson before them... headless chickens who can't read the game who get out of jail with pure pace.
Avoid this loan.
31 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:56:25
Steve, I totally disagree that Branthwaite was all over the place against Blackpool. The midfield might as well have stayed in the dressing room and Holgate had a nightmare so I think it is very unfair to slate an 18-year-old on the basis of the first 30 minutes of one game.
I think the lad has everything we need: big, strong composed and a good passer of the ball.
32 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:56:33
If Chelsea decide to keep him we look at other options. If he doesn't have what we want or need we avoid the financial risk.
I think we would all love one of our own youngsters to break through, but no point in rushing teenagers. Let them learn, develop and get confidence, especially a modern-day defender who lacks pace.
I too hope Mina can come out to play with his Colombian mate these next few seasons.
33 Posted 08/09/2020 at 16:57:24
34 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:00:07
I'm no immigration expert, but I think Tomori gets citizenship easily as he lived in England for more than 5 years before the age of 18 (he moved to England as a “toddler”).
If you have citizenship, then you don't need a parent or grandparent. Remember the Arteta to England rumours?
35 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:03:16
Agree with David 15, Tomori could be anything. He has looked a bit raw to me when I have seen him, he looks strong but also with loads of energy and speed. But there is much more to being a quality defender than that, the loan will let us have a good look at him.
I hope we have an option to buy to take advantage if he comes good for us. Nothing annoys me more than us coaching and improving a player then giving him back to strengthen Chelsea etc, first team.
Without the option to buy, walk away, there will be other alternatives.
36 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:04:10
The last type of player you want in your team is Keane if you play this way. Holgate is gifted with the ball and will be fine and can step in. Any mistakes should be covered by a quick partner, right in Tomori's wheelhouse.
If you want to see Keane or Mina juggling with the ball on the half-way line then we are cutting our own throats. Silva tried this and got destroyed doing it. Ancelotti has had us sit deep and comfortable whilst he assessed the situation, because our midfield offered nothing.
He has now decided to be way more attacking with his purchases, we should be spending a ton more time in the attacking third, no time for a ponderous lump like Keane. Backs-to-the-wall stuff, sure... but he's no more than a one-dimensional player.
37 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:07:23
As John P says, he's a risk-free deputy to our incumbent three (although I disagree he'll oust Keane or Mina), and it prevents us from relying on an 18-year-old as fourth-choice centre-back. I'll be interested to see what Carlo can do with him.
38 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:15:40
Don't think Kenny to Schalke is nailed on, I am pretty sure that Schalke are absolutely skint.
39 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:19:44
Citizenship would work if they hadn't played a competitive game for another country.
I think UEFA or maybe the UK FA decided if they schooled in the country for 5 years before turning 18 years old they can play for that country. Otherwise, they need a direct relation i.e. parent, grandparent.
These days, I'm sure it would be legally challenged if they had lived and worked for 5 years. Sterling came over at 5 years old, Barnes a teenager but different rules were in place.
Drinking Guinness no longer qualifies as being Irish... okay, a little OTT, I can't remember the players name but the Irish FA stretched a few rules.
The Aussie and New Zealand RFA's do similar with Pacific islanders.
40 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:20:54
They're effectively saying "We've signed a really good experienced centre-back for a year to enable our best prospect to get up to speed; here he is, give us back the finished article in a year."
Er... no thanks.
41 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:34:27
With him 4th choice and Branthwaite 5th, I would think we are covered there.
A winger and a right-back would be great.
42 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:34:37
43 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:35:04
While we have back up in this lad, with Holgate and Keane or Mina the likely first choices. The club who gains more is us as the two lads will develop greatly from getting a full season playing, week-in & week-out, rather than sitting on the bench.
And we don't need to spend a fee or massive wages on someone who will ultimately block the path of two excellent prospects.
44 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:38:53
A 12-month loan for Tomori whilst loaning our Gibson, could mean Gibson is ready in 12 months and letting Tomori go back to Chelsea is not a big deal.
45 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:42:21
46 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:45:32
I don't mind having Branthwaite or Gibson on the bench but I'm not sure we want either to be starting a lot of Premier League games yet. Both might be better served with a loan to the right Championship club.
47 Posted 08/09/2020 at 17:54:35
48 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:15:41
So we bring Zouma in on loan and he gets a season's experience in the Premier League and goes back to Chelsea and into their first team.
Now, we bring in Tomori on loan and he could get a season's experience in the Premier League and he goes back to Chelsea and into their first team.
Are we just a testing ground for Chelsea's young defenders because it is okay to make mistakes for Everton but not Chelsea and great to get 12 months tuition from Professor Ancelotti – and not even for free but actually be paid to pick up the lessons.
The answer has to be:
a. loan with an option to purchase... or:
b. loan and he waits in the reserves until needed and if we like what we see, we make a bid and, if it is rejected, we send him back.
49 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:29:57
50 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:32:42
Branthwaite and Gibson aren't ready, this lad, given the market (maybe raw) but is lightning quick and available.
If we went after a centre-back now the market is screwed. Few are available, and those who are, go for massive prices given the fact many teams are in the market.
The move or one like it has to be seen in this context.
51 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:35:47
52 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:37:26
Steve #45, does anybody?
Joe #49, I can play a higher line than Keane, and I'm 64. But yes, Tomori's best asset is blazing pace.
And for anyone regretting that we missed out on Callum Wilson, here's an absolutely wicked take on him from The Fiver:
"Theres Wilson, who if you discount the rogue good year of 2018-19 has scored 27 and created six Premier League goals in 96 appearances over four seasons, is halfway through his 29th year, is statistically only three times more likely to create a top-flight goal than he is to suffer a ruptured cruciate ligament, and still cost £20m."
53 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:38:24
Gibson by all accounts is better than Branthwaite, played and did well in 9 or 10 games for Fleetwood, has represented England at under 17, 18 and 20s for England, won his age group World Cup.
How much more experience do they need? Tomori will cost a substantial loan fee and not insubstantial wages. All we are doing is helping Chelsea.
If they're good enough they're old enough. Remember Zouma!
54 Posted 08/09/2020 at 18:41:15
Would anyone be surprise if he scored 8 in his first 6 then his knee went. Totally not.
55 Posted 08/09/2020 at 19:01:31
"Tomori Tomori is only a day away"?
56 Posted 08/09/2020 at 19:07:24
Tomori never comes.
57 Posted 08/09/2020 at 19:14:15
If he's smart, he should come as he won't play much with Rudiger, Thiago, Christensen and Zouma all ahead of him.
Young talented quick and hopefully hungry, be good to have him onboard and challenging for a place.
58 Posted 08/09/2020 at 20:02:14
If we have to loan, we should only be loaning from top foreign clubs as we are still a couple of seasons away from playing those!!
59 Posted 08/09/2020 at 20:38:44
Not gonna get too carried away but, with new midfielders secured and if this loan transfer deal is gonna get done, it shows some serious intent for the oncoming season.
60 Posted 08/09/2020 at 20:57:48
61 Posted 08/09/2020 at 21:08:37
62 Posted 08/09/2020 at 21:21:12
63 Posted 08/09/2020 at 21:37:33
Branthwaite did well considering what we expected...but he made mistakes that we won't accept in long term.
A season at a club challenging the top end of the Championship could do wonders.
Look at Holgate after his time at West Brom.
64 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:16:01
65 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:18:51
66 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:32:11
Gibson meanwhile, either hes PL standard now, which I dont think he is, and so dont sign Tomori and play Gibson. Or, if he needs one more year of development, loan Gibson out to a championship club and see how he gets on. Tomori on loan for a season, even if he does well, would just be a stop gap as its Gibson we want in our team in 12 months time, with Branthwaite then loaned out, unless hes suddenly matured exponentially.
Sure, if Tomori does well and we can sign him, then sell Michael Keane and keep Tomori.
67 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:34:35
Braithwaite did well considering his age and lack of experience. But in reality those were dead rubbers. Im not sure it would be fair to utilize him from the get go for the new season and with Minas injury record that is likely what would happen.
68 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:40:25
69 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:41:40
Newcastle? Burnley? Palace? Brighton?
Why do our players always have to go to a lower league?
70 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:47:37
71 Posted 08/09/2020 at 22:53:50
I think getting tonked every week and going down with Fulham wouldnt be as good for his development. Sure hed learn from playing against PL attackers, but hed lose confidence from losing every week.
72 Posted 08/09/2020 at 23:25:06
73 Posted 08/09/2020 at 23:26:35
74 Posted 08/09/2020 at 23:31:08
75 Posted 09/09/2020 at 00:30:22
How many lads have we sent out on loan who have returned to be first team regulars?
If we had option to buy Tomori, that's different but with Thiago just on a one year deal there is little chance of that.
76 Posted 09/09/2020 at 00:59:53
Ive changed my view on RB. I think JJK has earned a season compete for Colemans position, he is coming off the back of a full season and will improve this year. We can focus on another keeper and is one is available, a striker to push Calvert Lewin.
Id also keep Bernard, Iwobi, Siggy and Gomes for the season to see if the new side raises their game, and get shot of Walcott, Delph and Tosun (when fit). And Besic Sandro and Bolasie too.
77 Posted 09/09/2020 at 02:48:31
Im hopeful for some silverware and, with luck, top six but top 4 seems a step too far this season. Tomori might help us take some points off some of the current top six but Im sure Lampard wouldnt expect us to be surpassing Chelsea in the very near future.
I agree top of the Championship would be better for our loanees rather than bottom of Prem. You could throw a blanket over a group of mid table Prem teams so we definitely dont want to bolster them.
I think Leeds will consider themselves as suitable for ambitious young players; would West Brom ever have had a chance of retaining Holgate if we didnt give them the come-on.
78 Posted 09/09/2020 at 04:25:52
79 Posted 09/09/2020 at 05:27:48
From watching Bayern Munich, PSG, Athletico and Barca during the Euro finals stages, the most outstanding thing to me was the tireless, off-the-ball movement of just about every player. Last season most of our players were like statues in Trafalgar Square.
80 Posted 09/09/2020 at 08:27:00
Ancelotti won't be happy with defensive players playing deep and the days of a player static covering in front of the defence are gone. Both Mina and Keane can get caught on the turn and prefers to play in front of them. Keane at least stays fit, and makes himself available for play.
But equally the forward line need to improve interlinking play, particularly pass completion in the final third which is one of the worst in the league, and finishing. This can be characterised by the difference in play between Kean and Calvert-Lewin on the last day of the season. Richarlison coming deep will not suffice either. Position play in front of goal needs to improve, particularly attacking the near post with other forwards providing other correct positional options, is a must.
Everton need additions in both defence and attack to complement the additions in midfield to have maximum impact. There is also the Pickford question, which has not gone away.
Brands also has to continue with his key role of reducing the wages % and making a surplus on transferred-out players, to address Everton's financial weaknesses.
Moshiri needs to get a grip on Everton's commercial operations. No wonder Rodrigeuz's image rights delayed the transfer, they are 30% of his value. Need a big step up from Blue balloons and news releases on EitC, with aspect views of the new Stadium.
81 Posted 09/09/2020 at 09:02:53
82 Posted 09/09/2020 at 09:21:27
The commercial and marketing part of the club needs also to be addressed and not miss this marvellous opportunity we have with Colombia and maybe South America itself. We as usual totally missed the trick after Tim Howard's heroics in a World Cup. Even The President Obama mentioned Tim as a hero at the time.
With that in mind, the likes of Little Miss Dynamite and her emotional boss are not at the level we need. Time to act and think big, Mr Moshiri!
83 Posted 09/09/2020 at 09:32:48
I'd never usually want to train up a player who belongs to a rival but with us bringing in a whole new midfield I think he offers a very sensible stop-gap before addressing the defense more next summer.
84 Posted 09/09/2020 at 09:35:20
He is only 19 still.
85 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:11:48
I think Leicester have been bidding for Fofana. He will likely cost £20m+ and I can't see us spending that (unless we sell Keane or Mina). But if he stays another year at St. Etienne and continues to do well, he could be a good target next summer, though he's not left-footed.
86 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:15:34
Do you start a player who is going back to Chelsea before one of our own, especially in the latter stages of the season. What does that do to a player's mindset and focus? Do you have the same commitment to a player who will be off to a rival soon.
Does that player fully commit to us? If we are playing him and he is gelling and forming a great partnership with say Mason Holgate, then goes back to Chelsea, how does that help us or Holgate? We're back to square one and trying to start forging a new partnership that may not bear fruit.
There's no question we need a centre-back player like him with pace, and as Sam above says he is not far off par with Chelsea's other defenders. But without the option to buy, however high that is (even if it's £20M), I would rather we looked at other options and if they turned out to be excellent acquisitions we can keep them.
87 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:24:31
It also allows us to get regular game time for Branthwaite and Gibson who, hopefully, will then be ready to be 4th or 5th choice next season, or possibly even 3rd or 4th choice.
If he's coming on the promise of being a regular without a buying option, then it's a poor deal.
88 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:24:32
Should the player play well the club that loaned him take him back, or if he has played well but the club who loaned him don't want him back, then they have all the cards stacked in their favour and ask a lot more for the player.
You can't build a long term structure by bringing in loan players; either buy him or don't bother. At this moment we have Holgate, Keane, Mina and Branthwaite why do we need to loan another centre-back???
89 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:29:01
90 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:32:32
Holgate came on leaps and bounds when he was needed due to injuries. Branthwaite looks like a player who can do the same. Why not give Gibson some game time as well? We should develop our own youth prospects, not Chelsea's.
91 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:34:11
I can see where you're coming from but I think any further incomings will be loans only, and this one and hopefully one more, will assist us in a season where we have to improve but can't actually afford to buy any more players.
If Tomori plays well for us then surely that's a good thing. I know we may be merely developing him for Chelsea but, if he helps our season go well, then it's a win-win.
As I said, I don't think we can buy any more players, certainly not without offloading a good number, so this can be good for us.
92 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:48:51
I wish we'd only loaned Michael Keane, for example, instead of stumping up a big fee and putting pressure on the lad.
We've used the load system to our advantage in the past. McBride, Yobo, Donovan, Lukaku, Barry, Zouma etc.
93 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:50:24
2 issues with that. First is that Keane's lack of pace forces us to play a very deep line. That's not ideal and we saw how it went after the restart. Second is that neither Branthwaite or Gibson are ready to start alot of game in the PL. Yes, Branthwaite looked ok during a short spell when we mainly sat deep but before that he's only had 9 games in league 2! I don't think asking an 18 year old with such limited experience to potentially start a whole bunch of games in the PL is helpful for him or us if we have top 7 aspirations.
If Holgate were not injured (and Mina not injury prone) it may be a different situation but I think having some experienced cover and allowing Branthwaite and/or Gibson a loan to the championship would be preferable.
94 Posted 09/09/2020 at 10:52:54
I actually think Tomori is as good as any of the Chelsea centre-backs. If he was coming here on loan with us being able to buy him at the end of the season for an agreed price, then I don't have a problem.
I posted on the Doucouré thread that even before we purchased anyone our wages to income was standing at over 80% and with the 3 additions, very welcome as they are, no club can sustain a business where wages against income is so high.
As for us not being a top club, I agree on the pitch we have been a very average middle of the league side. But our expenditure is in the top 6 clubs in the country since Moshiri took over, and he has been let down very badly by our last 4 managers.
95 Posted 09/09/2020 at 12:37:46
96 Posted 09/09/2020 at 12:58:10
I do appreciate that we're light at centre half. Especially on the sort of players that can squeeze up the play. And even more so with Holgate out for (?) a month or two.
However, Gibson is 20. He needs games to progress. The injury to Holgate is a big opportunity for him. Branthwaite had a really good run of games at the end of last season too. I know he's very, very young but he was outstanding at times. Both will make mistakes because of inexperience. But both are also beyond the standard of the U23s so either we use them as first team players / cover or loan them.
On balance I'd rather keep both in the first team squad till Xmas. If its not working then get a short term fix in January - and give them loan opportunities to help get past the mistakes.
97 Posted 09/09/2020 at 13:04:49
98 Posted 09/09/2020 at 13:54:43
99 Posted 09/09/2020 at 14:04:15
I don't want another centre-back... unless it is some very established one and we are selling. This drops Gibson and Branthwaite down the list and blocks their path.
I would rather we back the kids and give them a path to the first team. Honestly if we buy another centre-back then just sell one of Gibson or Branthwaite in my opinion.
I concur. The money is better spent elsewhere. Or actually saved and not spent at all.
Now if they are shipping out one of Holgate (fucking better not), Keane, or Mina, then fine. But otherwise, don't execute this deal please.
But whatevs. They'll do what they do. Not my money. Just don't run out of dough and I'm ok with it.
100 Posted 09/09/2020 at 14:04:36
101 Posted 09/09/2020 at 14:34:49
102 Posted 09/09/2020 at 15:10:19
Bayern's squad included Ivan Perišić, Álvaro Odriozola and Philippe Coutinho on loan, as well as Kingsley Coman who originally joined on a loan basis.
PSG have a squad which features Sergio Rico, Mauro Icardi & Kylian Mbappé, all of whom first arrived on loan.
103 Posted 09/09/2020 at 15:20:09
Why undermine his thinking of hopefully world class players doing their stuff straight away, only for the young kids to let him down, whilst obviously not ready for the big step-up? They play against Preston and Blackpool and some of the comments about how good they are. Come on... a reality check needed, hey.
104 Posted 09/09/2020 at 16:34:52
105 Posted 09/09/2020 at 16:47:20
106 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:12:35
107 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:15:31
108 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:17:12
Have I got my games mixed up? :-)
109 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:20:20
110 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:27:04
At least its not about fish this time!
111 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:30:21
112 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:35:15
113 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:36:35
Bayern Munich had James Rodriguez on loan for two seasons. D'oh!!
114 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:43:31
We cant keep lashing out money so a loan is a sensible option. We do not of course know what else Carlo and Brands might be looking for- there could be a winger or a striker yet to come.
115 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:45:06
116 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:47:18
117 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:50:22
118 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:50:56
119 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:54:44
120 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:57:12
Faced with the prospect of eroding their confidence or reducing the influence of our very potent front players Ill take the former. It may take a bit of well score more than you but sitting deep. However, asking our better players to make it happen deep inside their own half is a recipe for disaster. Weve seen it last season and we were impotent from open play only our set piece prowess saved us.
I hope with better players, we control games in the opposing half and place less emphasis on defending. Im still of a mind to ask for Stones on loan, perfect for the team, a chance to rehabilitate a player I loved and hated in equal measure!
All three incomings are strong on the ball, its far less likely well turn it over, get ruined in transition, so Keane and Mina better suit up and deal with it!
Or we just loan Tomori. 😆
121 Posted 09/09/2020 at 17:57:44
122 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:11:20
123 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:26:54
124 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:48:57
Lozano on loan much more realistic.
125 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:50:41
126 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:52:20
127 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:56:34
Interesting to hear Zaha's relationship with Bolasie and his opinion of him as a player, if you can get through the rest to hear it.
128 Posted 09/09/2020 at 18:56:57
129 Posted 09/09/2020 at 20:14:28
As we already have our priority signings in the bag, and may have the chance to get Lozano in on loan, we wont be held to ransom by Palace like last season.
130 Posted 10/09/2020 at 00:27:14
131 Posted 10/09/2020 at 08:11:48
132 Posted 10/09/2020 at 10:55:10
133 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:04:19
134 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:15:42
135 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:18:35
136 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:26:19
“Everton are continuing discussions with Chelsea regarding a loan deal for Fikayo Tomori
Carlo Ancelotti is looking to bring in cover for the centre half positions, however Tomori is not the only option being considered with up to three possible targets being looked at”
137 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:28:58
138 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:42:46
Get this done please
139 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:48:55
Keane arguably played his best football at Burnley under Sean Dyche, so could well be up for a return, to resume his partnership at CB with Ben Mee.
140 Posted 10/09/2020 at 11:54:49
141 Posted 10/09/2020 at 12:03:43
Not enough pace for the defender we need. Not resilient or strong enough either. As Craig says, Man City look more solid without him. I'd rather have Tomori, hopefully with an option to buy. I think Branthwaite will be a better all round defender than John Stones in the not too distant future.
142 Posted 10/09/2020 at 12:25:34
143 Posted 10/09/2020 at 12:56:48
144 Posted 10/09/2020 at 17:10:34
Also looks like Juventus want Kean back (or Raiola wants some money) so if thats the case, £30m plus development compo.
I thought we werent going to deal with this scumbag anymore after insulting us over the Lukaku transfer to Utd?
145 Posted 10/09/2020 at 17:42:15
146 Posted 10/09/2020 at 19:42:42
But once again the points raised make for intersting reading.
Lets just hope we have a better season than the last few... but the synic in me says it will go tits up. Its already started with Holgate injury..
To think I use to be a glass half full.
147 Posted 10/09/2020 at 20:04:33
If Moise Kean he is adamant he is going back to Juve we should use the money towards signing Milik. A month ago I would have said there was no chance of him coming to Everton, but now I think he just might have an interest in what is going on here under Carlo Ancelotti. Tottenham are after him though so it will be difficult.
A striker of that quality coming to Everton just coming into his prime years would definitely put the cat amongst pigeons with regards to the Sky 6. The group would have to be renamed.
148 Posted 11/09/2020 at 12:50:05
If these rumours as Tony said have any substance, regarding Kean going back to Italy, and paving the way for some sort of deal, then bring it on.
Like most on here I was made-up when we landed a coveted young talent that was hot property in the eyes of many Clubs, but apart from the racist issues, where Evertonians have been more than welcoming to him, he hasn't gelled.
Add to that the infrequent starts and limited substitutions from the bench, maybe the staff (who see him on a daily basis at FF too) don't rate him that highly either.
Then there's the off the field issues, where he has displayed Baliotelli-esque behaviour on several occasions. He has had long enough to settle in now and that talent hasn't surfaced often enough to warrant keeping him for another season, mostly as a bench warmer again. So I would welcome a fresh striker to get the pot really boiling.
149 Posted 12/09/2020 at 08:57:15
Tomori wants to come here, him and his agent may be happy to include one but Chelsea are not entertaining it. As by the next window we could be more of a direct threat to them and have the option to buy a young defender that has improved us.
Or maybe it is about the high valuation Chelsea are putting on such an option. It could explain the hold-up.
150 Posted 12/09/2020 at 23:56:53
151 Posted 13/09/2020 at 07:06:53
152 Posted 13/09/2020 at 13:47:11
153 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:53:09
154 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:24:48
Mina makes me anxious defending, Keane makes me me very,very anxious, how long is Holgate likely to be out for, he is going to be missed with those two at the back, we played well but I couldnt relax with those two at the back even though Spurs didnt press us with much energy, although Allan and Doucouré helped tremendously to subdue many Spurs attacking movements,we have certainly improved the area which concerned most of us,now get the centre back position sorted out.
155 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:24:21
A few rumours that we are looking at him, is he good enough for us?
156 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:11:04
157 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:21:51
158 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:29:02
159 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:37:44
160 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:40:20
161 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:23:58
I would prefer a striker to put pressure on Richarlison/Dominic. If we have James creating or playing in 5 chances a game and non are converted that will come back to bite us. Not being able to control a through ball and losing that chance, not being able to shoot on target... hmm. I can't see any changes to the starting 11 over the next few prem games. We have enough cover elsewhere. We wont be spending 300 grand a week to bring in Bale (of course if we do, we could break the top 4). I think the way we are set up Zaha could be an option, however that depends on his current club.
162 Posted 15/09/2020 at 15:13:16
163 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:03:47
164 Posted 16/09/2020 at 16:35:45
With games coming think and fast we could do with Tomori [or whoever they are after ] sooner rather than later.
165 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:50:34
166 Posted 20/09/2020 at 03:38:21
167 Posted 20/09/2020 at 07:41:58
We need another centre-back, I can't see us buying one so this is a very sensible move. My only fear with it is that Lampard may now see us as real competition this season and not want to strengthen us.
168 Posted 20/09/2020 at 19:59:02
We need to find centre backs and in time for weds.
169 Posted 20/09/2020 at 21:17:29
170 Posted 21/09/2020 at 07:40:27
171 Posted 21/09/2020 at 08:15:45
172 Posted 21/09/2020 at 09:03:57
Not sustainable and as much as I'm not a massive fan of either centre back we cannot afford another injury there. Will just derail the good start we've had. The other point is Zaha will be licking his lips at the space between Coleman and Mina on Saturday.
173 Posted 21/09/2020 at 23:09:07
Palace have gotten 2 decent results but, let's face it, Man Utd just didn't show up on Sunday.
If Everton are the real deal, then they should take care of Palace.
174 Posted 23/09/2020 at 14:15:12
175 Posted 23/09/2020 at 14:36:14
He's a very raw player but has some fantastic attributes. He's not really played enough in the last few years but at best he could be like Rio Ferdinand; quick, agile and supremely (over?) confident on the ball. Needs to bulk up a bit but definitely has the raw materials.
At worst he's John Stones on a bad day.
Him being able to double up at defensive midfield gives us a bit more cover. I think he could probably do a job at right-back as well if needed. He'd have some mistakes in him though. In some ways, I'd prefer Adarabaiyo who's played a whole heap more over the last 2 years. Todiob has greater potential though.
176 Posted 23/09/2020 at 19:23:52
Todibo is probably the best fit for what we need out of those linked. Loan with option to buy would be good.
He is raw but the talent is there. He'd be really pushing for a first-team slot, not just back-up.
I did wonder whether Koeman might build afresh with him in the Barca defence – but I gather Steve Walsh has told him to go all out for Mustaphi and and Phil Jones.
177 Posted 23/09/2020 at 19:40:23
Funnily enough when I'm in my 3rd (soon to be 2nd) home, I see a lot of Cararbao. Generally passive and ignore you but I wouldn't want to piss one off.
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