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Todibo back on Everton's radar

| Wednesday, 23 September 2020 45comments  |  Jump to last
Jean-Clair Todibo is once again being considered by Everton as they search for central-defensive reinforcements.

The 20-year-old emerged as a potential target for the Blues earlier this year when they came very close to signing Gabriel before the latter ended up at Arsenal.

Speculation on Todibo went quiet, especially when Everton shifted their attention to Fikayo Tomori but with interest in the Chelsea man waning as his place at Stamford Bridge looks more assured, Todibo is back under consideration.

Paul Joyce of The Times says the Frenchman is on Marcel Brands's shortlist but there are suggestions elsewhere that the fee being quoted by Barcelona is too high.

Ideally, Everton are looking at loan options and have also been linked with Jérôme Onguene of Salzburg by Telefoot.

Update Further reporting in The Independent claims that the sticking point with Barça over Todibo is that the Catalan club want the guarantee of a purchase at the end of the loan at a fee of around €18m which Everton aren't currently keen on agreeing to.

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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 23/09/2020 at 19:34:11
Loan with option to buy would make sense. This kid has loads of potential.
Frank Wade
2 Posted 23/09/2020 at 19:42:32
This guy was on loan at Schalke from last January. I stand to be corrected but I don't think Schalke won a game with him at centre-back. Could be that he was their star player.
Robert Tressell
3 Posted 23/09/2020 at 20:06:24
Frank - Schalke have been woeful for a while. It wasn't down to Todibo. He's got absolutely huge potential. With Barca in rebuilding mode, I'm a bit surprised they're letting him go.

Loan with option to buy would be good.

Justin Doone
4 Posted 23/09/2020 at 21:41:21
Improve the first team to improve the squad. Pace at the back is a must.

Frank Wade
5 Posted 23/09/2020 at 22:22:49
Robert, U-Turn here after seeing him on the link on the other thread. I agree, he has bags of natural ability. I imagine he will cause a few flutters a la Stones v Tottenham and I prefer centre backs to have socks and shin pads firmly in place just in case a crunching tackle is required.
Derek Knox
6 Posted 23/09/2020 at 23:24:31
After being linked with him for some time now I was eager to see him in action. Maybe he had an off day or two, but he didn't look anything special to me.

As has been mentioned, I hope it turns out to be a loan with a pre-agreed price if it turns out he's better than he first appeared.

Alan Johnson
7 Posted 24/09/2020 at 08:01:26
Not impressed. In the few games I've seen him, he's looked disinterested in the game. Just sayin...
Robert Tressell
8 Posted 24/09/2020 at 08:44:50
Frank @ 5. Clearly we wanted Gabriel, who is a more mature defender. We're now looking around for available cover – possibly unbudgeted for having spent up on the new midfield. In that context, Todibo is a really attractive looking option.

As you say, he's certainly skilful and has good physical attributes. If he had the maturity / defensive grit already, he wouldn't be available. But we have Ancelotti to help iron out those wrinkles... so I hope we get him!

Jeff Armstrong
9 Posted 24/09/2020 at 08:50:47
We should have just kept Gibson if we wanted to iron out potential, he's at about the same development point as Tobido and looks just as good.

Tobido couldn't even get into a poor Schalke side in the 4 games I watched live after the restart. Gibson would have been cheaper and already acclimatised to us and his teammates.

Tony Everan
10 Posted 24/09/2020 at 08:58:13
With having Holgate, Branthwaite and Gibson all youngsters I was thinking a more tougher, experienced, no nonsense back up centr-back would better compliment what we have. It would keep us strong if Mina gets injured.

Would Todibo give us strength in depth, or will we be introducing a weak link to the defence? He will be targeted and well tested when he is included. At 20, Todibo has is work cut out to be a success in the Premier League, is he that good?

Carlo will have to make the call.

Karl Meighan
11 Posted 24/09/2020 at 09:24:20
Digne hasn't looked too shabby at centre-back... okay, not in the Premier League and against much weaker opposition.

I don't think too many would be concerned about Nkounkou stepping up. More pace at centre-back would be welcome; however, the way Ancelotti wants to play, I don't think it's a must as it seemed not too long ago.

I only want to see new faces if they are going to improve the team, coming straight in being that good or improving other players putting pressure on their places.

Erik Dols
12 Posted 24/09/2020 at 10:10:49
I saw him in a couple of Schalke matches and, to me, the guy just oozes a certain class – even when Schalke was doing horrible at the time. Also, he is quite quick, and could combine well with Keane in that respect.

At the same time, at 20, he is already somewhat of a journeyman and I feel buying fringe players from Barcelona is a bit lazy. So mixed feelings but overall, I'd like to see him in Blue. I am curious what it would mean to Mina though.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
13 Posted 24/09/2020 at 10:12:34
I assume this is the same "poor Schalke side" that also included Jonjoe Kenny as a full-back?

Or have we all decided that:

a. If it wasn't for Kenny, this would have been an "abysmal Schalke side";
b. Kenny is not going to take us to the next level and neither will Todibo;
c. Both of them are just cover and the front 6 will score more than we conceed, no matter what; or
d. We need right-back cover for Seamus as well as at centre-back.

Erik Dols
14 Posted 24/09/2020 at 10:28:19
Just my two cents and not one of your options Phil: Todibo has more talent than Kenny, I'd rather have Todibo at Everton than Kenny. Kenny doesn't look to me like he ever would grow enough to be a starter in a top six side. Todibo does.
Robert Tressell
15 Posted 24/09/2020 at 10:38:02
Todibo is miles ahead of Gibson. They are the same age, that's all.

Ansu Fati is the same age (17) as Lewis Dobbin. That does not unfortunately put them at the same level of development. The former has 7 top-flight goals for Barcelona and is capped by Spain. The latter is a very promising player moving up a level to our U23s.

Schalke were poor but had quite a few v good players. Like Norwich last season – Godfrey, Aarons, Cantwell and Buendia are all very good.

Sam Hoare
16 Posted 24/09/2020 at 10:43:25
Tony@10, Todibo could be top drawer. He's got the attributes but need some good coaching and some more match time; he's not had that much in the last few years.

He's definitely ahead of Gibson whose yet to feature at a higher level than league one.

A loan for Todibo would make a lot of sense. If he does really well keep him. If Gibson really excels at Reading then maybe we won't need to buy Todibo. But Todibo has a huge amount of ability and though he will make mistakes (like a young John Stones) he could give us cover at centre-back, right-back and even defensive midfield. He's similar to Holgate but quicker and even more comfortable on the ball.

I'd also have a look at Aruajo from Barcelona who is also rapid and could be even better than Todibo!

Tom Bowers
17 Posted 24/09/2020 at 11:56:38
It will be difficult to bring someone in right now, especially on loan, when any such player will know he may just be another benchwarmer.

Everton have Mina and Keane along with the other two, Holgate and Branthwaite, when they return, not to mention Digne as an emergency centre-back.

The situation could become dire in a hurry if Mina gets crocked again and I am not too sure that Digne is suitable.

I am very impressed, like many, with Nkounkou who looks like he could play there in the future.

Derek Knox
18 Posted 24/09/2020 at 11:57:40
Karl@11, re Nkounkou being redeployed as a centre-back, while he has the speed and the physical attributes required, his defensive ability has proved to be well below his attacking ability.

Now, I'm no expert but what I've seen of him, I am very, very impressed with him btw, with a few tweaks. I see no reason why he couldn't be a top-class left-winger, possibly in the Zaha mould, if he could add goals to his already impressive repertoire!

Tony Everan
19 Posted 24/09/2020 at 12:16:53
What would also be interesting is if there are any promises with regards to guaranteed game time. He won't want to be sat on the bench for 9 months.

Barca may make it a condition he's to be played as a starter in the cups.

Martin Berry
20 Posted 24/09/2020 at 12:35:42
I think we need a no-nonsense stopper as cover rather than a young player of his age. It's tough coming to the Premier League at a young age and, at centre-back, you can't hide from the pressure.

We have Holgate and Branthwaite who are going to be top defenders but, right now, an older head please.

James Stewart
21 Posted 24/09/2020 at 15:05:59
Not convinced at all on the few occasions I've seen him. Would prefer someone much more experienced.
Mike Gaynes
22 Posted 24/09/2020 at 17:57:06
Martin #20, every time I see "no-nonsense stopper" and "older head" I remember those same words being used around the signing of Ashley Williams. And I have to sprint to the bathroom again.

No. No. Nobody from the Ivanovic, Phil Jones, David Luiz, James Collins pile. Just no.

Hey, for that matter, isn't Ashley himself out of contract? Tough, experienced, knows Everton. Let's go get 'im.


Rob Halligan
23 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:06:15
Surprised nobody has mentioned Antonio Rudiger (or have they?) as possible reinforcements? Chelsea are prepared to let him go; he has Premier League experience and is a full international with Germany, so could be worth a shout!!
Bill Gienapp
24 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:10:23
Mike (22) - hey, that's even better than my Antolin Alcaraz suggestion!
Brian Williams
25 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:17:07
Rob #23.

You beat me to it mate. He'd do us for a season long loan.

Rob Halligan
26 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:20:07
Brian, I'm hearing this could be a go'er, but don't take this as gospel just yet.
Jay Harris
27 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:24:16

Rudiger is the only option I would go for right now.

I watched all of Schalke's games last season and apart from the games he was dropped or injured Todibo was dire. He lost concentration a lot and was slow to recover. His passing was okay but I would put Branthwaite well above him.

For me, it's Rudiger or wait for Holgate or Branthwaite to recover and then we have Gibson next season. No need to pad the squad out again.

Mike Gaynes
28 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:24:31
Hi Rob mate... Rudiger was discussed in a thread a couple of days ago. Aside from the concerns about his level of play since the injury -- he's fallen behind Zouma, Christensen, Tomori and now Thiago in their pecking order -- it just seems highly unlikely that Lampard would sell or loan him to a rival. Which we now definitely are.

So I'd be shocked if he stays in the Premier League. Gotta be headed for Europe.

Mike Gaynes
29 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:27:30
Bill #24, if only. But it's too late now. He's been declared a Paraguayan national treasure, like Pele in Brazil.

(Yes, I'm kidding.)

Keith Harrison
30 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:29:01
Jeez Rob, did you not learn last time about announcing 'imminent' signings, inducing extreme palpitations, only for the announcements to be made the following week,

If I didn't know you better, I'd say you were wumming!!

Rob Halligan
31 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:39:06
Keith, it wasn't my fault if some missed Pointless Celebrities!!
Neil Copeland
32 Posted 24/09/2020 at 18:52:30
Rob, what time is the announcement so I can plan my day/evening?
Rob Halligan
33 Posted 24/09/2020 at 19:35:51
Neil, don't make any plans between 1am and midnight!
Neil Copeland
34 Posted 24/09/2020 at 19:38:58
Rob, brilliant! Thanks for your help, much appreciated
Robert Tressell
35 Posted 24/09/2020 at 19:50:01
I'd also like Rudiger, but I don't think we have the money. It's low cost, loan or free, I expect. Hence more limited options.
Tony Everan
36 Posted 24/09/2020 at 19:50:03
If Chelsea sell us Rudiger I wouldn't rule out us being bang in the frame as challengers for the 3rd and 4th spot along with Chelsea.

So I don't think Chelsea will be in any mood to improve us. They would love to string us along until deadline day and then leave us high and dry though.

In fact, the only reason Chelsea would sell him to a competitor is if they knew he had an injury issue, and that he could somehow get through a medical with it.

Stephen Brown
37 Posted 24/09/2020 at 20:18:11
This is such a tricky one!

Personally I think Mina, Keane, Holgate and Branthwaite are more than a good enough set of options but the injuries have put us in a difficult spot.

If you could guarantee Mina and Keane stay fit until Holgate and Branthwaite are back I'd say don't bother but if you then get an injury we are screwed but, on the other hand, you might be signing someone who sits on the bench the entire time?!

Could Pennington or Connolly step up with all the quality around them?

Maybe on balance a loan is the way to go? But who loans out quality players?

I'm even confusing myself!! Cheeky bid for Van Dijk??

Derek Knox
38 Posted 24/09/2020 at 21:38:10
Stephen @37, any player can pick up an injury at any time, in any game, for any side, admittedly some seem more prone than others. There is an element of luck (good or bad) too, as with a lot of things in football, it's never an exact science.
Vijay Nair
39 Posted 24/09/2020 at 23:18:03
Another defender we've previously been linked with, Diego Llorente, has signed for Leeds for £18M:

Paul Kernot
40 Posted 25/09/2020 at 02:20:20
What about Calvert-Lewin? He's tall, pretty quick and a decent header of the ball. Not bad in the opposition box either!
Andrew Bentley
41 Posted 25/09/2020 at 09:34:53
Why do we insist on talking about buying players as “back-up” all the time? How about we focus on buying/loaning the best players we can to improve the first 11 and then Mina, Keane etc can become the back-up?

Surely that should be our mentality. Focus on improving the first 11 with every purchase and then we will have plenty of back-up options (that were first choice last season).

Robert Tressell
42 Posted 25/09/2020 at 09:52:43
Andrew @41. I agree – each recruit should ideally be top class to move the team forward. The exception here is that we're in an injury crisis and it could derail a very promising season. We have also, I expect, not budgeted for thus recruit – having given up on Gabriel and strengthened the midfield instead.

Obviously it would be great to be in for real quality (and there's plenty about), above what we have in Keane and Mina – but if the money isn't there then we should settle for cover.

Steve Carse
43 Posted 25/09/2020 at 17:57:47
Derek (18), Nkounkou's defensive capability is "well below" his attacking quality? If it is then it can only be because of the extremely high bar set by the latter.
Martin Clark
44 Posted 28/09/2020 at 12:26:40
Ideally we’d bring someone in who would be better than what we have but seem limited on who.

I think if this can’t be achieved, then we take someone on loan to ensure we don’t get caught short. I think Todibo could be good but only if an option to buy at end of loan. If not move on someone like Tosin Adarabioyo whose had some experience in championship and maybe ready.

Been rumoured to want Zouma back at £40m and Ben Godfrey for £30m.

Phil Smith
45 Posted 01/10/2020 at 03:35:58
Naa, need someone with experience at the mo' for cover. Can't keep playing Digne as centreback. Nearly got caught out twice today with crosses coming in from their left flank. We have 3 young centrebacks with Gibson, Branthy and Holgate (he's still young for a centreback). No clue why Penno couldn't have been brought in against Fleetwood. He's had enough experience in the Championship to play against them and West Ham's second team ffs. Expect more injuries to come...

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