El Ghazi signs for Everton on loan

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Updated Everton have now completed the signing of Aston Villa midfielder Anwar El Ghazi on loan until the end of the season after Lucas Digne made his transfer the other way.

Paul Joyce of The Times reported on Tuesday that Kia Joorabchian, agent and close friend of Farhad Moshiri was looking to engineer the temporary move to Goodison Park for his client and it was widely reported that El Ghazi underwent a medical on Wednesday.

El Ghazi was a regular under former Villans boss Dean Smith but has been used increasingly as a substitute under Steven Gerrard. He becomes Everton's third signing of the current transfer window while Digne, a £25m Villa acquisition, was the first sale.

The winger will wear the Number 34 shirt and is eligible for selection in Saturday's Premier League game against Norwich City at Carrow Road.

“I'm really excited,” El Ghazi said. “Everton is a big club. I cannot wait to get started. I want to show my quality to my teammates, to the club and the fans.

“I want to put a smile on their faces. I'm ready and willing to work hard for it and for all of us to work together.

“I've met a few fans already and it's great to see how people live for the club. It's basically their religion.

“I just want to focus on working hard, getting into the team, fighting for my place and to get Everton where it belongs - that is much higher up the table."


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Eddie Dunn
1 Posted 11/01/2022 at 19:57:51
No thanks.
Mike Keating
2 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:00:41
Of course Joorabchian is looking to push it through - he’s a bloody agent and January is feeding time at the zoo.
Clive Rogers
3 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:10:30
Wasn’t impressed when he came on against United.
Tony Everan
4 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:14:17
We have no need for this player, as our young lads are doing well. If we did, he’s good on his day, but he’s not at the standard we should be trying to bring in.
Derek Moore
5 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:16:15
"Close friendship with Farhad Moshiri..."

Really hope that's hyperbole, or a complete fabrication of the truth.

Agents don't have friends; they have chumps.

Soren Moyer
6 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:19:18
Everton's answer to RS's Salah then! Our Edyptian!
Christy Ring
7 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:21:10
Can we just do a straight swap for Iwobi.
Joe McMahon
8 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:23:30
He was on for 15 mins last night. Has scored a few goals for Villa, suprised he's off. On loan it's a yes from me.
Matt Henderson
9 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:30:03
Joorabchian represented Arsenal in the sale of Iwobi to Everton! If this deal also goes through the only conclusion can be that these transactions are designed for him to launder money for Moshri.
Ian Bennett
10 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:30:56
Not good enough for Villa, so I am sure he will be a world better for us...

El Ghazi, should fit in with the rest of the shite - Iwobi, Rondon etc Al. Welcome to the Championship.

George Cumiskey
11 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:43:07
There's talk about El Ghazi from Villa, just what we need another winger to make it four, but no backup striker? You couldn't make it up?
David Currie
12 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:44:34
No thanks.
Peter Neilson
13 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:47:23
Joorabchian is an advisor to both Moshiri and Usmanov. Reported at the time he was the one who arranged Benitez’s final interview with the pair off the coast of Sardinia. Thank goodness he has our best interests at heart.
Mal van Schaick
14 Posted 11/01/2022 at 20:58:24
I would take a punt on him, scores goals from midfield and a penalty taker, I believe. Can’t be worse than Delph or Iwobi.
Brian Harrison
15 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:00:59
Well if this deal for El Ghazi goes through then how much will Villa have to pay for Digne, if we meet Villas asking price of £15 million then we probably get £10 million for Digne. I would have thought with Richarlison, Gray, Gordon, Townsend and Iwobi the last position we needed any more competition was a wide player.

I really despair at what is happening to our club, we seem to be going backwards at breakneck speed. I am beginning to wish that Moshiri ever got involved in our club. Most of his appointments have been disastrous and although having ploughed in £450 million we are further away from a trophy than when he joined.

Dale Self
16 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:13:52
Wasn't El Ghazi and Mings in a bust up on the field while Dean Smith was in charge? Smith was benching Mings to try to get the team going, may have even switched captains, and now El Ghazi is moving on. I'd say Mings won that one.
Tony Abrahams
17 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:20:43
Just reading El Bobble, say that Benitez has turned down the chance to sign this player three times, and can’t understand why he would suddenly change his mind?

Maybe he hasn’t got as much power as people automatically assume, or maybe he’s decided to take a chance on this player, to keep his boss happy?

Some are reporting that it will be a loan deal, whilst others are reporting it’ll be a permanent signing, and if this happens it’s likely got Kia Joorabchian, all over it.

Peter Neilson
18 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:21:24
He tried to leave Villa in the summer. Another highly paid journeyman. Better to scout for new talent.
Stuart Sharp
19 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:28:29
I'm not sure 'Can’t be worse than Delph or Iwobi' should be our transfer mantra. That would effectively make anyone with at least 1 leg suitable.

My son and I have a running joke about El Ghazi. My son saw him score a worldie a few years ago and for ages maintained that he was class. I therefore paid close attention for months... he looks bang average to me, with occasional flashes of class but equally many of flashes of shite. Please let this be a no.

Geoff Williams
20 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:32:19
One really has to question the relationship between agents and managers. This proposed transfer looks very shady.
Paul Smith
21 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:35:23
Can’t help feel there’s been a role reversal and Villa are us and we are Villa. WTAF.

It’s worrying but who knows anymore. El Ghazi has never impressed me but my football knowledge is limited.

Dale Self
22 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:37:44
Unfortunately this looks to be heating up. If what Tony is suggesting is true, this would be a point for having Benitez there if he can block it.
Ray Mia
23 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:40:39
Read that when Anwar was playing regularly for Villa, he had the 2nd highest success rate in the Premier League per game - for crossing from wide left into the box... 2nd only to Dwight McNeil who was the leading left-wing crosser into the box in the Premier League... McNeil we were looking at in the Summer, priced out and has gone off the boil... Anwar grew up in the Ajax ranks - then played in a very good Lille team... I would be interested in a loan to buy.
Shaun Laycock
24 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:46:06
Rather go for Deli Ali tbh...
Dave Abrahams
25 Posted 11/01/2022 at 21:52:18
Hope this is a load of nonsense, looking at him last night for just those few minutes he looks like a bottler with no fight, come on Rafa tell the owner to put his wallet away you are here to help him not to waste his money,there has been enough of them already done that, been very generous with his money.
James Stewart
26 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:02:12
Just no.
Barry Hesketh
27 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:18:00
I don't know much about this player, but unless he's the manager's choice, Moshiri shouldn't be brokering deals for any player, it's quite obvious that Farhad doesn't do listening. It's quite likely that Villa don't want to pay a premium price for Digne, so in order to ensure the deal goes through, this player is a part of the price, but only in a roundabout way?
Anthony Murphy
28 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:19:44
Let’s hope this isn’t Moshiri interfering again. I’d be ok but only if the manager approves,
Barry Rathbone
29 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:20:52
Just watched his showreel and he is noticeably composed with excellent mastery of the football. No idea if he's a wrong 'un but similar negativity about Townsend and Gray abounded and they applied themselves and became stand out players. Maybe the Khazi boy is of the same ilk someone who can play but just hasn't found the right club/manager.
Bill Fairfield
30 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:23:43
If it’s a Moshiri signing expect the worst
Sam Hoare
31 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:29:23
Would be a strange signing. We have Gray, Gordon, Townsend and Richarlison to feature on the wings. Also Dobbin and Iwobi at a push. It’s not an area we struggle in unless looking for someone who is a notable improvement on those 4; which El Gazi isn’t.

Maybe a loan to try him before selling Richarlison is the thought process, he’s a decent-ish player but surely there are other areas (like central midfield) where our needs are greater.

Kenny Smith
32 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:33:50
There’s talk of us paying 15 million for him. If that’s the case then this club and it’s ambition is finished. He can’t get a game for Villa because he’s last. Why waste a penny on this fella who ultimately will be the next iwobi hanging around earning a fortune but offering less than fuck all.
At a push I could see Moyes getting something out if him but not this clown.
I don’t think I’ve felt so low about what’s going on at our club in 39 years of going the game. We are heading for the championship if we get nothing from the next 5 games.
Danny O’Neill
33 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:35:31
I could comment on El Ghazi, but would rather not.

Sam, wanted to pick up on your comment. I repeat myself enough on the various threads on here, but in Dobbin, I see a number 10. He could / can play wide, but I like him being a nuisance through the middle supporting the striker with his energy from what I've seen so far.

Jim Potter
34 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:35:39
The last Moshiri signing was Iwobi. And no one knew about that until he announced it as a done deal.

Stick to accounting Farhad. These guys don't add up.

Brian Murray
35 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:36:29
Why don’t we at least try a see if onyango is the real deal instead of all these cameos for him and dobbin. Same goes for Branthwaite.We know these have had injuries but they in good company on that score at finch farm. At the very least we already know they are a step up from Keane rondon Davies and Delph. Failing that If Benitez is still terrified of youth then focus on getting a dominant centre half.
Tony Abrahams
36 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:38:01
Some reports are saying you could get David Neres, for £16.5 million, so I’ll leave it to Robert and Sam, to tell us going for which player would make more sense? (I’m half expecting a non of them!)
Paul Birmingham
37 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:46:21
For me no, as he’s no better than what we have and looks like a moody type who’d sulk, but Neres, I’d go for, if available, on loan.

Interesting that allegedly Rafa, doesn’t want him, but who really knows who’s making the decision, in this possible deal?

Hopefully Digne is sold for his full going price, and this is more or less x2 new full backs for one player sold, and in budget, which is good business.

Tom Bowers
38 Posted 11/01/2022 at 22:58:52
I don't care if they pay Everton to take him on loan, forget it.
We don't need any more bums.
Brian Murray
39 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:02:28
Tom. Can any of our midfield bums get double goal figures like him last season. No where near it.
Sam Hoare
40 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:03:31
Danny@32, I think Dobbin is more likely to get time out wide. I hope he gets minutes but Benitez will favour Rondon over him up too.

Tony@35, I’d be amazed (very disappointed) if we paid £15m for El Ghazi. A loan could make some sense but not sure bout that either. Neres has not been great for last year or so, think he’s off to Shahktar where he should go well.

Danny O’Neill
41 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:13:34
I'd love to see him buzzing around bothering defences Sam, but that's just my view on what limited exposure I've seen of him.

Okay, El Ghazi. I said I wouldn't but here goes and it's just an opinion.

When I spoke to my Newcastle mate, I got Longstaff described as a lesser McCarthy.

My wife follows Villa, so out of duty I watch them. El Ghazi is a lesser Richarlison.

Mike Gaynes
42 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:18:59
What the hell is a Joorabchian anyway? One of the aliens in the Star Wars bar scene?

"Steer clear of that Joorabchian, Luke. He's dangerous."

Anyway, I may be the only one, but I'd take El Ghazi on loan without question. He scored ten goals in the Prem last season, and his gamewinner against us at Goodison in May was pure quality. Pickford couldn't even get near it.

This might be another situation like Gray and Townsend, a talented player with an attitude problem (or a manager problem) who simply needs a chance to restart his career somewhere. He wouldn't cost us anything except his salary, which ain't much (£31K/week per Spotrac, one of the lowest-paid at Villa), and could provide valuable depth. Seems like a no-risk gamble that could pay off bigtime. And if he flops, we just send him back.

Nick Page
43 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:25:45
For anyone that's ever read or watched Moneyball, this type of approach would serve Everton well - identifying players of a certain type with stats that could support a functioning Everton side that fans would pay to watch. Especially one with a bit of money to spend. But pissing money up the wall on the likes of El Ghazi is farcical and shows we haven't learnt a thing.

As a fund manager, I'd love to apply what I know to investing in football players. It's far simpler than investing in global equity markets but you need the same discipline (philosophy) to get the best/desires outcome. We've just fancied players for years and it's been totally hit and miss….no strategy. It's such a shame.

Colin Glassar
44 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:26:18
Christine, El Ghazi for Iwobi? I'd go for that any day of the week.
Brian Williams
45 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:56:58
I'd settle for El Ghazi in a swap for Iwobi, Col.
Nicholas Ryan
46 Posted 11/01/2022 at 23:57:42
Soren [6] "Our Egyptian...'. Unlikely, as he's Dutch.

Every time we are linked with someone, there is a chorus of 'He's crap' 'cast-off' etc. El Ghazi is not crap; he is a talented player who scores plenty of goals, some of them dramatic. Dean Smith played him, Gerard doesn't. Perhaps he's fallen out with Gerard in the same way that Digne has with Benitez.

Mike Gaynes [41] sums this situation up correctly. A loan with an option to purchase would be a sound idea.

Steve Brown
47 Posted 12/01/2022 at 00:16:59
El Khazi indeed.

Good forward planning to have Richarlison's replacement lined up already.

Justin Doone
48 Posted 12/01/2022 at 00:19:13
He's an inconsistent winger that is not an important position for us to fill imo. Gray, Gordon and Townsend doing well.

He's never looked like a team player so a strange one for me. £15M is a sensible price, just not for us.

Jerome Shields
49 Posted 12/01/2022 at 01:00:14
NO thanks
Bill Gienapp
50 Posted 12/01/2022 at 03:26:59
I'd be fine with a loan move. If we drop 15-million on him when we couldn't pay that same amount for Dumfries, I'll be a sad panda.
Jack Convery
51 Posted 12/01/2022 at 04:49:51
5 months on loan to convince RB he's Richie worthy replacement. No other explanation makes sense unless its an accountancy thingy.
Vijay Nair
52 Posted 12/01/2022 at 04:53:10
I've read El Ghazi is only on loan not a permanent transfer, but I still don't get why we are going for this guy. With Gray, Townsend, Richy and Gordon it's not exactly a position of pressing concern nor is he a player that would improve us.

There are also rumours of David Neres flying around. To me it sounds like we are preparing for life without Richarllson.

Jay Harris
53 Posted 12/01/2022 at 04:53:52
Im with Mike G on this.

We have needed goalscoring players for years and even if this guy is a lesser Richy that will do for me especially as a low cost loan and as long as Delph and Iwobi go.

How often have we bemoaned Richy being out and we are tothless. Well this is a solution to that one.

Bob Parrington
54 Posted 12/01/2022 at 05:06:36
We need a strong, hard-knock, fast, tall CB, imo and a controlled area to area mid-field back up. Don't see any sense in going for this guy unless Iwobi goes.
Derek Knox
55 Posted 12/01/2022 at 07:26:42
Nothing against the lad myself, and apart from the other night against Manure (mediocre performance) always thought he was half decent, but I have to question, do we actually need another winger at present ?

I feel we need a CB reshuffle, with out's and in's, a midfield general, and a striker, but that shopping list is very unlikely to be met, after getting two FB's in surprisingly, and historically January Windows generally are limited to essentials.

Tony Abrahams
56 Posted 12/01/2022 at 08:22:46
Moneyball sounds like it’s good in theory Nick, just as long as those stats can also check things like a players character, which is very important, especially when you’ve got an angry crowd of Evertonians, letting you know that they want to see a bit more.

It looks like Benitez, didn’t really like the look of Luca Digne, so bringing in players that our manager has allegedly turned down a couple of times before, just doesn’t make a lot of sense imo.

Andrew Ellams
57 Posted 12/01/2022 at 08:54:31
No issues with the player himself but like others have said we have bigger priorities right now.

Unless of course Richarlison's injury is more serious than we have been told and he is going to be out for months rather than weeks.

Tim Kells
58 Posted 12/01/2022 at 08:55:29
A strange one. One area we don’t need strengthening, unless we are trying to reduce the wage bill and are going to lose Iwobi (please be true) or Richie in the near future. Assuming that he starts as a regular after joining (else why would he) then that will stunt the playing time of Anthony Gordon, just when he’s beginning to find consistency.

For me as others have said, a CB would be where I’d start, with Holgate shown the door and Mina unfortunately looking like he will leave in the Summer, with one year left.

John Keating
59 Posted 12/01/2022 at 08:56:10
We needed a number 10 and finished up with a squad of them
We needed wingers got Gray and Townsend and have Gordon
We don’t need any more. There are far more important positions to fill
Dave Abrahams
60 Posted 12/01/2022 at 09:36:53
Let’s be blunt here, never mind the agent look at the player, I can’t and don’t believe that Benitez would want this player and if he comes then Benitez hasn’t got the command or power that he should have in signing players, Moshiri let your manager make the decisions over which players we should sign then do the most important part of the deal and sign the cheque that brings him here.
Zack Yusof
61 Posted 12/01/2022 at 09:37:13
He looks tasty enough whenever he plays against us, does El Ghazi. Had a good scoring run last season, including this beauty against us.

a href="https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/480740149933404/?vh=e&extid=0">Goal | Anwar El Ghazi v Everton

A loan till the end of the season would give us more attacking options without breaking the bank so it's a Yes from me.
Liam Heffernan
62 Posted 12/01/2022 at 10:00:01
Has anyone seen the rumours that Moshiri wants Alexi Sanchez. Apparently he wants a marquee signing and Sanchez’s has been offered to us.
Clive Rogers
63 Posted 12/01/2022 at 10:16:37
Liam, yes saw that and I think it would be a disaster if true. He’s 33 and couldn’t hack it at Utd 3 years ago.
Clive Rogers
64 Posted 12/01/2022 at 10:19:57
El Ghazi didn’t play on the wing when he came on for Villa against Utd. He played in the centre up front.
Brian Wilkinson
65 Posted 12/01/2022 at 10:32:57
Raffa does not want the player, latest coming out is Moshiri is pushing for the deal, and some are happy to let Allan go out on loan, totally different area of the field I agree, but must be mad to bring him in, yet not bat an eyelid at the possibility of Allen departing.

Danny O’Neill
66 Posted 12/01/2022 at 10:57:36
Dave, your point takes me back to my point about Brands' freedom to manoeuvre being constrained and his hands tied.

If we're both accurate, still there is interference and a scattergun transfer policy. I use the word policy loosely.

Just when I thought we'd done good business with the fullbacks.

Robert Tressell
67 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:03:38
Might be a case of buying in Richarlison's replacement at modest cost in advance of his sale in summer. Expect he will play second fiddle to Gray and Gordon - which is ok I guess because wingers do often blow hot and cold (except the absolute top drawer ones). Capable of moments of brilliance but not consistent.

As for Neres, he's really dropped off due to Anthony's good form at Ajax and injury. Has looked outstanding previously. Might have already peaked despite his relative youth. Or might need a new challenge. Might be a good buy at relatively low cost (his contract expires June 23). Alternatively if he's off to Shakhtar that might mean their own (younger) Brazilian winger Tete will become available - especially since his contract is up in December 23. Tete is the one on an upward trajectory with a good goal output now to combine with the dribbling skills he's always had.

Andrew Keatley
68 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:05:19
Nick (42) - I think Tony at 55 sort of covers this, but Moneyball works wonderfully as a concept in a sport like Baseball - which is more of an individual sport (even though I obviously appreciate that it is a team sport) - and far simpler tactically than football.

A sport like football - or rugby - or hockey - or basketball - has a much greater level of in-play interaction, where the on-field chemistry and complexity of tactical organisation in a team is much more likely to affect performance.

Statistics have always ruled baseball in a way that football is only starting to really to be able to manage via the rise of Opta and other statistics systems. But while the idea of assembling a playing squad is a definite jigsaw puzzle of sorts, if you are primarily looking for pieces that are undervalued in the market-place then it will really limit what sort of picture you can make. I always think that Moneyball is a bit like arbitrage - it sort of takes the fun and romance out of the process.

Brian Wilkinson
69 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:11:30
The touches and complete pass accuracy needs removing from the stats Andrew.

How many times do you see a team in their own half, let’s say City for example, no opposition near, then you get two players within two feet of each other knocking it to each other around 4 or 5 times, putting their pass rate and accuracy right up.

Robert Tressell
70 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:25:18
Nick # 42, I've noticed the same thing. Basically investment managers use both judgement, statistical analysis and risk reduction measures when investing, buying commodities etc.

RB Leipzig have very obviously looked at football transfers and seen huge outlays made at very high risk - with very limited return. They approach transfers like other forms of investment / business supply chain / development of talented staff.

The point is to dampen risk, reduce cost and maximise return. It's allowed them to build a Champions League quality squad from nothing in a very short space of time and relatively low cost.

Funnily enough these sorts of techniques are what Moyes did for many years with the profile and demographic he used to build probably our best sides in the past 30 years. Martinez similarly before he went mad, departed from his successful recruitment principles and bought Niasse.

In other walks of life that is not rocket science. In football there is a lot of vanity, short termism and inertia (maybe even borderline corruption) wrapped up in the transfer market.

The analysis, statistics and risk reduction measures don't replace human judgement - they just make the application of human judgement better.

Alex Gray
71 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:26:18
Villa signing Digne and Coutinho whilst we're interested in El Ghazi and Longstaff is pretty telling. A loan with option to buy for El Ghazi isn't the worst option but I'd love a little bit of ambition.

Jesse Lingard and Dele Alli are available for buttons (bar wages, I'm guessing) and, despite Alli's poor form would still add something to our midfield.

Bobby Mallon
72 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:28:13
This is cleaning dirty money at its finest if it goes through
Joe McMahon
73 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:36:21
Julian, the international defender you refer to has been awfull for nearly 2 years. The player from Villa you refer to has scored PL goals and I think it's a loan being mooted anyway. Maybe its not all negative all the time.
Ben King
74 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:42:00
El Ghazi is a "try before you buy" replacement for Richarlison.

Richarlison has ambition, so he'll be off. Can't say I blame him

No point belong left high & dry – plus El Ghazi scores goals. It's not my ideal signing but we are where we are: fighting for mid-table mediocrity

It's sad but he's a better player than for the like of Norwich, Burnley, Watford etc and he's not good enough for Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal. So he's perfect for us. What's the big fuss about?

Colin Glassar
75 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:55:59
Been said often but I'll say it again; we don't need another winger! We have Gray, Townsend, Richarlison, Gordon even (god help us) Iwobi, who feigns to be a footballer, can play wide.

We need, a commanding centre-back, a boss midfield player and, pushing my luck here, a backup centre-forward not poor imitations like Tosun and Rondon.

Trevor Cotterell
76 Posted 12/01/2022 at 11:56:05
I'm not convinced about El Ghazi. Seen good things written about him, can't actually remember him playing (obviously made an impression on me then...). But on loan, perhaps?

All things being equal we ought not to need him. But (again) let's look at the bigger picture... fixtures are piling up. There will probably be one or two more postponed. We could get into two matches every week soon at this rate. So whilst we ought not to need him, we're going to pick up more injuries and we're going to have a knackered squad that's left.

So yes, a few more options on loan sounds sensible. Just not convinced he's the man. Neres on loan (but not loan-to-buy) might be worth a punt. Then let's see if they fit in and go for them if they do.

Peter Carpenter
77 Posted 12/01/2022 at 12:25:31
Seems like good business. Not convincing defensively and value only going to drop. Two younger players for the price of one - just hope they are good enough.
Robert Tressell
78 Posted 12/01/2022 at 12:44:48
Taking a step back with all of this, obviously the key thing is that we improve a mediocre squad, build for the long term and avoid saddling ourselves with more high wage, low performance deadwood that we can't shift.

That will take a bit of wheeler dealing. Unfortunately the market and our limited bargaining position determine prices.

Digne may be about £5m less than we might have got or at least wanted. But then it might also allow us to invest in improving the squad overall.

We'll only really know whether it's a bad deal or good deal when we can see the way the squad has shaped up at the end of January and beyond.

Drew O’Neall
79 Posted 12/01/2022 at 13:10:28
How many of the players we have bought in the last 5 years would you consider to be ‘assets' as opposed to ‘liabilities'?

I can think of 5-6 we could command a fee for in the current market.

I think the days of signing players over the age of 26 on permanent contracts, may be gone.

Even the biggest clubs in Europe are proposing loans now, I can see a future where no player's registration is owned by a club.

With this future in mind, my view is Everton should sell up as much as is possible – it seems Rafa is willing to listen to offers for anyone – when we are no longer carrying the wage bill millstone around our proverbial neck, we can be agile to respond to our ever-changing manager's requirements!!

Tony Everan
80 Posted 12/01/2022 at 13:38:06
Rumours have been rumbling on for months about the Russian Aleksandr Golovin, who plays for Monaco, coming to Everton.

Now the Digne money is nearly in the bank, it could well be heading straight out again for this attacking midfielder.

£25M for Golovin and a few £M for Longstaff could be the midfield business this window.

With Mina still unfit, I'd like to see a loan deal for a centre-back too.

David Nicholls
81 Posted 12/01/2022 at 13:52:37
I don’t get this. He’s not bad, but is he an upgrade on Gray, Townsend & Gordon?
Soren Moyer
82 Posted 12/01/2022 at 13:57:24
Joe #77. We bought Gray from Bayer Leverkusen not Leicester.
Mike Gaynes
83 Posted 12/01/2022 at 14:28:50
Colin #78, Townsend's been injured, Richarlison could be off, and Gordon has two career goals. El Ghazi scored 11 goals in all competitions last season. In their two previous seasons combined, Gray and Townsend together scored a total of 6. We definitely need all those things you mentioned, but we also need to add talent wherever we can. And hey, you of all people should be for this, because it might mean you'd never see Iwobi again.

Julian #73, when we got Gray and Townsend, did you point out that they couldn't get into anybody's first team at the time?

David #86, he doesn't have to be an improvement. He's depth and a possible replacement. And on loan he's a freebie, and on a very low (for the Prem) salary.

Trevor #79, El Ghazi beating us at Goodison with an 80th minute top-corner bullet just eight months ago didn't leave an impression on your memory?

The only objection that makes sense to me is that Benitez reportedly doesn't want him, and owners shouldn't foist unwanted players on managers. But other than that, this loan would appear to be a low-cost, no-risk transaction that could bring us a few valuable goals. What's the problem?

Danny O’Neill
84 Posted 12/01/2022 at 14:34:07
Koulibaly Tony?
Nathan Jones
85 Posted 12/01/2022 at 14:41:33
I think we are going to see a re shaping of the team. Out with the old and or expensive and in with the under 25, with lower purchase prices and wages. Unfortunately I think that richie while definately a fine player falls into the two expensive for us to keep and probably wants to move to further his career, he has a brazil short to keep hold of.

Generally in terms of strategy I guess it depends if you are a glass half full or glass half empty kinda guy.

Glass half empty:
We are selling out better players, and if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. The players wont be as good and you have to take punts on players that have not proven themselves or careers have taken a backward step. We are going backwords.

Glass half full
Younger players, players who know that there is more money to be earnt though hard work by either an improved contract or a move, players who have a point to prove are more likey to work harder to prove a point.

Personally I'm a glass half full kinda guy, many posters have wondered why we don't follow the, for example, RB Leipzig model (ish). and lets be honest the buying established stars route has not served us well.

Back to the actual subject at hand I think a replacement is being sourced as a replacement for Richie.

There seems to be some discussion between Neves at Ajaz or El Ghazi. While my preference would be to keep Richie, if I had a choice, and had to make a choice between the two id go with El Ghazi, he has done the premier league and has done well if not brilliant, but we cant buy brilliant PL players. Neves has gone of the boil since his illustrious team mates from that great Ajaz team have been picked off one by one, and there is a reason he is the last of the bunch. Plus just don't trust the Dutch league.

Pat Kelly
86 Posted 12/01/2022 at 15:02:08
Where would we be without Farhad picking our players?

How much has been wasted on Iwobi? £40M (just a guess) on fee and salary? Then along comes El Ghazi into the picture. Apparently not Rafa's choice. It's up to Rafa to say no if he's doesn't want him. Otherwise who's the manager.

And if he doesn't want him, would he have to play him if he's signed? Who would he replace in the team? Maybe Farhad will decide. No wonder Brands left.

Craig Harrison
87 Posted 12/01/2022 at 15:14:56
If Farhad brings in El Ghazi without the backing of Rafa, will he walk?
Neil Thomas
88 Posted 12/01/2022 at 15:24:56
Why are we looking to buy another winger when we have no creative midfielder, and a terrible centre half pairing, we’re going back to Koeman era when we had 3 number 10s. We have already got Richy, Andros, Gray, Gordon and dare I say it Iwobi, so it’s beyond me why we need anymore crap here.
Raymond Fox
89 Posted 12/01/2022 at 15:40:25
The way we pick up injuries, why wouldn't you want another player? The more, the merrier, in my opinion; he's better than some of the donkeys we have.

We can't get a top player to sign for us or even keep one, that's where we are at. Who can blame Digne wanting to leave? We're stumbling from one season to the next, it's tragic.

Richarlison will want out next – I think thats a given… Calvert-Lewin also might be eyeing his options. It's no wonder our manager's job is a poisioned chalice.

Jay Harris
90 Posted 12/01/2022 at 16:20:42
Richarlison has just had an Everton tattoo and said how happy he is at the club… so, for me, the only way he would go is if we get a silly money offer from a very big club.

Calvert-Lewin, on the other hand, was very non-committal when asked about Arsenal's interest.

Stephen Brown
91 Posted 12/01/2022 at 16:36:26
I'm more worried about the ludicrous signing of a right-footed left-winger! How many of those do we need?
Mike Gaynes
92 Posted 12/01/2022 at 16:45:26
Steve, yep, we have several of those. But this one scored 11 goals last season and his salary is 1/4 of Digne's, and he's apparently costing us nothing.

Not sure what the problem is here.

Dale Self
93 Posted 12/01/2022 at 16:52:50
Are we at all obligated to buy in that loan deal for El Ghazi? If not I'm with it.
Mike Gaynes
94 Posted 12/01/2022 at 16:55:50
Neil #88, not buy, borrow. It's a loan, and a cheap one at that. Doesn't interfere with any potential midfield or centre-back transactions.
Julian Exshaw
95 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:02:19
Mike #83, fair point and I would agree if he was coming as a free or for £2 million but to blow £15 million on him seems excessive, in my opinion.
Craig Harrison
96 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:02:35
Probably picking up El Ghazi on the off-chance Mbappe ends up at Real Madrid this window. Possibly PSG will buy Richarlison if Mbappe goes.
Mike Gaynes
97 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:08:44
Julian, agreed. But according to the latest, we declined his price tag and are loaning him instead. And even if we're paying his full salary, he's coming cheap. £31k/week is way less than we're paying Iwobi, Nkounkou or Kean.
Stephen Brown
98 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:29:22

Just don’t see the need to sign him when we are crying out for midfielder(s), number 10, centre back, striker cover. Also may hinder Gordon who’s coming along nicely!

Happy to be proved wrong but just see the need for him?!

Robert Tressell
99 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:54:19
Although the papers etc are full of bollocks on transfers, it is looking like there will be a couple of new faces in or even more (on top of the 2 new full backs) and more departures too.

That's a really big shake up of the squad. Especially in January with no pre-season to bed people into new surroundings.

We do need a shake up but I was expecting that in summer rather than now.

Steve Shave
100 Posted 12/01/2022 at 17:54:52
I don't like the look of this one. Seems to be some legs in it. I am not against the lad personally, I don't know much about him but my reasons for trepidation are as follows: a) given we are quite well stocked in this position, it very likely spells the end of Richy, if we get him in then Richy is going in this window for sure b) it signals something more significant in the shifting of the powers if we are selling our best players to Villa and feeding off their scraps they don't want, we are sinking c) we should be aiming for better quality, if we end up paying £15M now (or end of the season) for El Ghazi then I would rather we went for one of those youngsters we were linked with in Russia - or picking someones pocket in MLS or Belgium for an unpolished gem. I know we will lose Richy and I accept it but I do not want us replacing him with El Ghazi, if we get £70M for Richy, I would hope we are shopping in the £30M European bracket for a quality replacement. Diaz too far out of our league and price range but someone who can come straight in and get bums off seats. Let's face it, Richy has not been at his best this season either and we should maximise profit and build alongside balancing up FFP.
Christy Ring
101 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:00:29
Is his signing going to hinder Gordon?

We don't need another winger, and Dobbin even looked impressive on the wing against Hull. Other areas, especially midfield, should be a priority. The link to Dele Alli would be a lot more attractive.

Sam Hoare
102 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:05:57
Very strange. He's a decent-ish player and I could have understood signing him last summer instead of Townsend (who I prefer) but getting him now will only hinder Gordon and Dobbin.

Far more pressing needs in this team, it reeks of Moshiri (once again) being influenced by those who may not have this club's best interests at heart.

Mike Corcoran
103 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:06:24
The lad looks great at times, makes a lot of good chances and averages a goal every 4 games. Loan to look at looks good to me.
Robert Tressell
104 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:07:41
Steve, personally I think Gordon is the Richarlison replacement and El Ghazi is the depth. Dobbin may go on loan but I take Christy's point because I was impressed with his cameo at Hull.

On the plus side, he's relatively low cost for a (last season) 10 goals in 28 games player and still only 26. He'll blow hot and cold but can do great things too.

And if we get £65m for Richarlison and already have his position covered then we invest the money in a CF, Midfield and CB where we're so light.

Sean Roe
105 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:21:02
A loan deal with no obligation to buy does seem low risk, although it does seem strange to strengthen a position that isn't the main priority.

I have to say, I am not comfortable with too many ins and outs in this window if that is going to be the case. We are in a precarious position and now is not the time to be bedding in half a new team.

I think we had just enough with what we had to stay in the Premier League and, other than Digne and his replacement, we should've waited until the summer.

Tony Abrahams
106 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:26:11
Someone wrote before about us having a lot of games left, and with us not out of danger with regards a relegation battle. I think a loan deal makes a bit of sense.
Michael Lynch
107 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:45:06
Most comments I've seen from Villa fans are along the lines of "he was great for us - in the Championship". If he can't get into the Villa side, and we've got an abundance of wingers, I'm not sure why we'd be buying a decent Championship standard player, unless we're planning for relegation of course.
Joe McMahon
108 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:53:02
Yes, we have wide players, but we also get a lot of injuries (such as Richarlison missing a lot of games). This is a good move with it being a loan.
Steve Shave
109 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:54:51
You may be right, Robert. El Ghazi could be the depth and Gordon could be Richarlison's replacement. In which case, props to the club for nurturing Gordon and bringing him on. You have to admit, Gordon has contributed more than Richarlison this season so far.

Personally, if what you say is true, then I can see us spend only on a central midfielder and the rest to help out with FFP. If we sell either Holgate or Mina (or perhaps both?) then we will buy another centre-back.

My own view is we don't have to buy another centre-back due to the emergence of Branthwaite. If we do sign a central midfielder, then I pray it's in the Golovin or Van de Beek mould, or my dream signing, Pape Matar Sarr from Metz.

Martin Mason
110 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:56:49
I have read that there is now war between Moshiri, the owner of the club, and Benitez, a mere coach who believes that he owns the club. What I read was that Moshiri negotiated the El Ghazi deal against the wishes of Benitez who had turned him down.

He is right to, by the looks of it. We still need to get rid of Benitez though. He is dragging us down.

Tony Everan
111 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:59:42
Tony A, I hadn’t looked at it like that but there will definitely be some rotating going on as well as inevitable niggles and injuries so from that point of view it keeps us strong squad wise.

At the start of the window I wanted a an experienced CB possibly on loan to steady our disorganised defence and tenacious tough midfielder as priority. I’m waiting/hoping for some news on that score.

I expected a right back so I’m glad that’s done.

Brendan Fox
112 Posted 12/01/2022 at 18:59:54
If it's a loan with no obligation to buy with his goals to games ratio last season he may prove a shrewd loan.

If he chips in with some goals and creates a few to get some wins chalked up it will have been worth the punt, we don't exactly have an abundance of goalscorers in the squad at present so bringing someone in who knows where the onion bag is makes sense to me.

Dale Self
113 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:04:50
I heard that Benitez just declared martial law.
Nicolas Piñon
114 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:08:58
He has an eye for goal and is talented. So apart than being a better sub than Iwobi hell better the starters. I find it unteresting, although other positions are more needed.
Craig Walker
115 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:09:15
This is only good news if it means we’re getting rid of Iwobi. We do love a 3rd rate winger at Everton don’t we? Alexandersson, Stephen Hughes, Idan Tal, McGeady etc. etc. Looking at our squad, I didn’t think we needed strengthening in wide areas. We need centre halves, creativity in midfield and goals up front.
Bill Gall
116 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:17:09
Well if we can get someone to take Iwobi this could turn out ok as this is just a loan deal. Hopefully we improve on our injury list and I cant see this player replacing Gordon, Richarlison or Gray or even Townsend.. As we have seen so far this season you cant do without backup for injuries. Hope we can still bring in an quality midfielder, to supply the goal scoring forwards we have.
Fran Mitchell
117 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:21:54
He was highly rated at Ajax but failed to meet the expectations.

He's 26 so should be at his prime, but could also surprise us. Nobody expected anything of Grey when he arrived and now he's one of our best players.

Maybe a Pienaar esque resurgence.

Our best period in recent times was based on signing players who hadn't quite reached their expected potential (Pienaar and Arteta being the stand out 2).

On loan no real issue I don't think we need numbers all over, Iwobi is useless and despite Townsend's goal against Hull, he'd been poor since September.

Richarlison is most probably off in the summer to fund our next season.

It's not an inspiring signing, but he's not Iwobi for 35 million so could be worse.

Mike Gaynes
118 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:24:12
Sam #102 and Christy #101, you both usually make a tremendous amount of sense, but this time I don't get you at all.

Please explain how borrowing El Ghazi hinders Dobbin... a completely unproven teenager.

If Benitez doesn't want El Ghazi and thinks Dobbin is better, he'll play Dobbin.

If El Ghazi proves good enough to play ahead of Dobbin, that makes us better.

Certainly his arrival improves the chances of never seeing Iwobi again, and that DEFINITELY makes us better.

And all of this is temporary, a six-month loan costing nothing.

What damage does this cause?

Mike Gaynes
119 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:33:15
Fran #117, when we signed Davy Klaassen in 2017, I said here that I thought he was maybe the 6th best player on Ajax.

El Ghazi was one of those I thought we should have tried to sign instead.

Winston Williamson
120 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:38:38
Personally, I think Dobbin looks more like a potential partner for Calvert-Lewin. Playing slightly off him, similar to Richarlison has in the past.

This signing, albeit on loan, should result in Iwobi never playing again this season. For that alone, I'm pleased.

Robert Tressell
121 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:39:37
Mike, playing devil's advocate the arrival of El Ghazi probably does reduce the chance of Dobbin getting minutes.

It probably also means that Ballon D'Iwobi won't darken our door again. But sad (albeit I'll cope) if we don't take this opportunity to develop a v promising academy player.

On balance I can see the logic of this deal and I expect loads of Villa fans are saying why are we getting a 29 year old Everton reject when we've got Matt Targett and shouldn't Everton be paying Digne + £10m for a winger with a 10 league goal record last year.

The big issue is still centre mid and centre back but this helps remedy the lack of depth.

Sam Hoare
122 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:44:46
Mike@118, I’m sure you do get it. El Ghazi may get the minutes that Dobbin and Gordon would benefit from.

I would not mind this if he was significantly better than the players we have. But personally I’m not sure he is. And I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t want us to spend £15m making him a permanent player of ours.

It’s certainly not the worse move we’ve made and he’s an ok player but given that I want to see more of Gordon and Dobbin it’s not a move that makes a great deal of sense to me when weighing up the short and long term.

Danny O’Neill
123 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:46:57
Fran @117, Mike @118

Voices of reason. We (I) complain about depth of squad. Despite seeming an underwhelming move, this might give us a bit more of that.

Unpredictable and inconsistent player, so he should fit in well. But he is a player that can turn a game on occasion.

I guess we have to be positive about it. Certain players can perform differently under different managers / coaches and different settings.

Peter Neilson
124 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:48:23
It’s the same pair that were instrumental to the Iwobi deal, that went well. We’re stuck with Iwobi, he’s going nowhere soon. The signing will satisfy Joorabchian (Sports InvestUK) and Moshiri. No footballing due diligence involved in the Iwobi deal, not even Moshiri remembering him as a good player, he only started 3 games while he still had shares at Arsenal. Sounds like another deal worked out on a spreadsheet.
John Atkins
125 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:49:18
I'm sorry but trust me: he is simply not good enough for the Premier League ….. Family connections with Villa and I've watched him quite a lot since 2019 …. Mark my words, NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!!!

I was giving Rafa the benefit of the doubt but, if he signs, then I'm done with him.

Paul Kernot
126 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:51:58
El Ghazi is the new Bolasie. Just seems like we've eventually learned the lesson about how much we pay, and how long he signs for.
Tony Twist
131 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:52:02
If it means that Gordon / Gray get the majority of playing time and he is there to freshen the attack and he is on loan then all sounds fine. I think lots of players are of similar levels and it is their fit within the team that elevates them. We did it with Arteta back in the day so hopefully it's all positive.
Mike Gaynes
132 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:53:47
Robert #121, that may be true. I would just point out, however, that in the middle of our worst injury/illness crisis in years, Dobbin has played only 29 Prem minutes. If Benitez thought he was ready to be a serious contributor, you have to figure he'd have gotten a whole lot more. I think he only got on because we literally had nobody else (except that ox up front).

With Richarlison, Townsend and DCL all now returning and both Gordon and Gray playing so well, it's hard for me to see how Dobbin would get minutes the rest of the season anyway, with or without El Ghazi.

Dobbin's simply gonna have to be patient, like Gordon... and step up when he gets his chance, like Gordon.

I agree with your post #104.

Kevin Prytherch
133 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:54:44
With Rafa’s inclination of not playing youngsters, he’ll take Gordons place in the team.
Michael Boardman
134 Posted 12/01/2022 at 19:56:08
If Dobbin goes, we should boycott. same position or not, what the hell is with not giving youth some form of chance? We don't want another Ryan Gosling on our hands.
Mike Gaynes
135 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:00:29
Ryan Gosling? Did he leave us for Eva Mendes?
Paul Jones
136 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:01:08
When we have loaned players in the past with a view to buy if a success Arteta was an exceptional piece of business for a club with little to spend. Landon Donavon was a good loan and most were disappointed when he was not signed.
Prior to that Duncan Ferguson was a loan come permanent player.
In the Moyes era we had a lot of try before you buy players most were not retained and some quite frankly left nothing to the imagination as to why the host clubs did not want them.
El Ghazi did not seem to have the confidence of his Villa manager, team mates and fans the other night so why mitigate this burden for them.
Brian Williams
137 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:04:06
Can't fault Ryan Gosling like, he was good in La la Land Michael, just like you were in the Tour de France.
Michael Boardman
138 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:05:18
Never lost a stage Brian
Eddie Dunn
139 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:11:21
Never liked the guy. Saw his greedy shot late on at Ols Trafford no thought for other team mates better placed. He has always been one of those frustrating players who look like they could really be good but regularly under achieve.
Still only on loan, so perhaps we are learning.
Mike Gaynes
140 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:13:58
Not as good as you were on NBC News, Brian.

Bad scandal that.

Brian Williams
141 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:18:41
Mike you'll have to help me out on that one mate.
Michael, I actually met Chris on one of the Wirral Bikeathons. Really nice fella. 👍

Found it now Mike. What can I say? 😁

Anthony Dove
142 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:18:56
Is Ghazi Dutch for Khazi?
Tony Abrahams
143 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:21:22
Sam@102, I’ve just heard that the manager didn’t want the player, and this deal has only come about because of the relationship between Moshiri and Joorabchian.

Benitez is allegedly trying to wheel and deal to save money and help with our FFP issues, but the owner must have a bit of a strange relationship with the super agent, if he’s taking players that his manager doesn’t really want, at such a time.

I’m hearing the club is like no other, with regards the saying about to many cooks, and that’s why I was disgusted when Unsworth called Brands, a proper Evertonian, because from the outside, it looked like he was just taking the money, knowing he wasn’t being allowed to do his job properly, but maybe that’s the true meaning of being successful at Everton nowadays, just looking after number one.

Michael Boardman
144 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:31:37
Thanks Brian. No relation (that I know of), but always came across as a lovely bloke - especially now that he's got the cycle lanes of Wigan on the go (makes me late for work, so no complaint from me)
Pat Kelly
145 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:40:39
Sometimes friends give bad advice :


Michael Boardman
146 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:41:36
Brands clearly was taking the £££ - why sign a new contract when you've been undermined for the whole of the previous one? Obviously he was so in demand that he's now working wonders in his new role as Chef Marcel at the Brands abode
Neil Thomas
147 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:50:09
Mike 94
So we’re not going to pay him any wages then, cause that’s part of the FFP
Mike Gaynes
148 Posted 12/01/2022 at 20:50:54
Off-topic, but for anybody who's interested in a REALLY fun game, the Spanish Super Cup Classico appears headed for extra time. 2-2.
Rob Halligan
149 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:05:05
Also off topic Mike. Nice to see Spurs awarded two penalties in the carabao cup semi final against chelsea, and both overturned by VAR.

And now spurs have a goal ruled out by VAR. 😁😁😁

Mike Gaynes
150 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:08:16
I'm watching that one too, Rob, but it's kinda boring compared to the free-flowing, shooting gallery Classico.

3-2 now for RM in the first period of extra time.

I knew you secretly loved VAR, Rob!

Jamie Crowley
151 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:10:51
The litany of just dumb-ass, inexplicable, retarded decisions continues.

Fuck me. Seriously?!

Fuming right now. We manage a profit from Digne, sending a quality LB to Stevie La (shouldn't have Rafa!), then we simply piss away the margin on that transaction to buy a soon to be 27 year old that won't help the squad in the least, and a player who's at best bang average.

Somebody, anybody, please get Rafa the Red the fuck out of Everton!!!


Dale Self
152 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:13:22
Uh, that's not what happened.
Mike Gaynes
153 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:17:31
Jamie, your lights are blinking. Better check the wiring in that backyard pub.

We're not buying said player. It's a loan. Loan, as in no, we're not spending that profit.

Colin Glassar
154 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:20:41
Anyone know anything about this Ramon Planes fella? He’s been mentioned as a possible new DoF.
Jamie Crowley
155 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:21:58
Of fuck me, Thank God!

Still won't help us, bang average.

Appreciate you righting the Good Ship Crowley, Dale and Mike!

Dale Self
156 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:22:58
Benitez is in London getting fitted for an emperor's sash and Moshiri is floating a name for a new DoF? Oh the skullduggery.
Jamie Crowley
157 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:22:59
Colin -

Rafa's cousin no doubt. Or one of Stevie La's buddies.

Christy Ring
158 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:25:18
Mike#118 I get your point, it's a loan signing and I'd have El Ghazi everytime ahead of Iwobi, another player who will be going nowhere because of his massive wages and unbelievable contract until summer '24.
Robert Tressell
159 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:29:59
Colin at 154. Ramon Planes sounds like a character from Toast.
Rob Halligan
160 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:30:16
Colin, is this another rumour flying around? 😁😁
Jamie Crowley
161 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:30:56
Hey Mike I just read your 118 comment.

You say, "What damage does this cause?"

Through a 180 degree lens:

How does this help us??!! If the only answer is Iwobe doesn't play, should we raise the bar a tiny bit?


Mike Gaynes
162 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:41:34
Jamie #155, I have something else to tell you. Brace yourself.

You're actually supporting Rafa the Red on this one.

Per multiple news accounts, he doesn't want El Ghazi. Moshiri does.

If you need a minute...

Anyway, my comment at #42 pretty much sums up my feelings about this loan. No downside, possible upside, and if we get really lucky, another possible Gray scenario.

Alan McGuffog
163 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:41:37
Anyone called Ramon gets my vote. My favourite ever blue.
Jamie Crowley
164 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:44:54
Do you believe that? I dunno. Rafa's been awfully clear about being in charge.

If it was Zaha or some overpriced player that has that new car smell, I might be more inclined to believe that.

But why in the world would Mosh want El Ghazi??? Like, what's the motivation?

Derek Knox
165 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:46:18
Rob, sounds more like a porn star, than a DoF to me ! :-)
Iakovos Iasonidis
166 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:46:54
Don't mind if he is on loan and no money spent, he may surprise us. I am not thrilled either.
Tony Everan
167 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:47:45
All this left back flim flam, and El Gazzi hoo haa I’m hoping isn’t causing a distraction from the real business that needs doing,

Jorginho, Kovacic, Ngolo Kante

All workaholic midfielders who get control over games. We need an engine room.

At the moment we have Allan, ( Doucoure not quite included in this bracket,needs to have licence to get forward).

This window we need some support to our engine room. We need to be fighting for supremacy in the early stages of matches but we can’t do it at the moment. We just don’t have the fighter in midfield to come out on top in the early stage battles that often decide how matches play out. We too often lose control of the proceedings and descend into crisis management. It’s got to be addressed.

I’m praying we sign a tough no nonsense midfielder to play with Allan and Doucoure in a midfield three. This is the nuts and bolts business we should be prioritising.

Mike Gaynes
168 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:48:38
Go all the way up to the top of the thread, Jamie. It's about Moshiri's friendship with Joorabchian... who presumably is frantically trying to reignite El Ghazi's career ahead of the WC.
Tony Abrahams
169 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:49:39
Jamie the club has been bang average at best for a very long time now mate, and I think I’ve just found out the reason why.

Unsworth the blue must have surely known Brands wasn’t being allowed to do his job properly, and saw him taking the money whilst living on easy st, and yet told us Marcel was a proper Evertonian, whilst Kenwright said, he only needed to listen to a couple of spins of Z-Cars, before he signed his new deal.

It’s Rafa the Reds fuckn fault though, coming to Everton, having to reduce the wage bill, whilst also having to sell to buy, which has got him loads of stick, - people fuming because they think he’s got to much power, - and then the owner bringing players in that the manager doesn’t even want, and probably because of how well he’s done at actually reducing the wage bill in the first place (except for Rondon?)

You seriously couldn’t make it up, and this is why the 27 year’s campaign is so important.. I honestly just hope that Rafa The Red, hasn’t lost all his belligerence

Sam Hoare
170 Posted 12/01/2022 at 21:58:37
A good point I’ve seen on Twitter. A lot of clubs (including Villa) are quite close to the wall with FFP. It may be that they are struggling to cover Digne’s wages without shifting one of their own.

Everton are desperate to to get in the transfer fee from Digne so to expedite the transfer say ‘who do you not need’. El Ghazi is a player that could have some use so we agree to pay his (fairly minimal) wages for 6months in order to help facilitate Villa having room for Digne.

May or may not be true but at least makes sense of why we would loan him when we are already have 5 first team wingers.

Mike Gaynes
171 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:05:17
Sam #170, that's a really interesting theory.

Tony #169, any idea what we're paying Rondon?

Rob Halligan
172 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:10:37
The other bright side to all this, if It is Moshiri who wants EL Ghazi, and Benitez doesn't, is that if Benitez doesn't play him, Moshiri may take offence and sack Benitez!

There's always hope somewhere.

Peter Hopkins
173 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:18:20
Tony(167) I have a terrible feeling that the player you are asking for will be longstaff
Derek Knox
174 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:30:48
Mike G @ 171, " Tony #169, any idea what we're paying Rondon? "

I sincerely hope it something round with holes in it, either, yen coins, buttons or washers ! :-)

Mike Doyle
175 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:34:12
Rob #172] I was thinking the same thing. If RB doesn’t want him, will he get the “Josh King treatment”?
Danny O’Neill
176 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:37:35
Interesting point Sam @170. Thinking about it, Villa have been spending a lot, so could be sailing close along with a few others. Although they did recuperate a lot through the Grealish transfer.
Tony Everan
177 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:40:50
Sam 170, The theory feels true, especially as Tony says he’s heard Benitez didn’t ask for him. Moshiri has sanctioned it as an accountancy transaction with benefits to oil the wheels.
Bill Gienapp
178 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:42:11
Jamie (161) - "How does this help us??!! If the only answer is Iwobi doesn't play, should we raise the bar a tiny bit?"

Baby steps, LOL

Neil Lawson
179 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:48:36
El Khazi must be thrilled to know that the contributors to TW, will give him such a ringing endorsement. So it's now to be 5 across the back, 4 of whom are right footed, and 3 left wingers. What's that ? 1-5-2-0.3333 recurring? Got to hand it to Rafa. Truly a tactical genius.
Jack Convery
180 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:51:29
Who next after Khazi - Bungit In ?
Dale Self
181 Posted 12/01/2022 at 22:54:39
Oh this is a Moshiri acquisition. I know that kind of messes with the preferred narrative but I don't write the script. Mosh's buddies do apparently. You know, the guy who will be in charge if Rafa goes.
Matt Byrne
182 Posted 12/01/2022 at 23:12:15
Seems to make little sense. Where's the back up striker? Hope he doesnt block Gordon's development. Will probably be another Iwobi but let's pray he's another Gray!
Andy Crooks
183 Posted 12/01/2022 at 23:41:46
I can't see any downside to this unless, against anything in our recent history, our Injury jinx suddenly ends. Our squad is not strong enough and he will be needed. A decent enough player who will be keen to impress and won't cost a fortune. We'll be glad of him.
Anthony Murphy
184 Posted 12/01/2022 at 23:43:55
Benitez having total control of recruitment didn’t last long. Will be interesting to see what he has to say when he’s unveiled. My only positive would be if Iwobi is being lined up for a move
Gavin Johnson
185 Posted 13/01/2022 at 00:17:43
This deal has the Iranian Peter Swales mitts all over it.

Thankfully it's only a loan and Villa are supposedly paying half his wages.

He's a decent enough player, but no what we need. There's a rumour that Iwobi is going to Nice on loan. If so, it would suddenly be a much better deal, so lets keep our fingers crossed Iwobi is going to France.

Mike Gaynes
186 Posted 13/01/2022 at 00:47:45
Gavin, where'd you hear that Villa are paying half his check?

That makes the small downside for us even smaller... 15K/week.

Gavin Johnson
187 Posted 13/01/2022 at 01:00:54
Baz and Ped on Toffee TV, Mike.
Derek Moore
188 Posted 13/01/2022 at 01:11:45
Villans glad to see the back of him, and when it initially seemed as if El Ghazi was a makeweight in a Digne transfer there was open talk amongst them of "mugging us off".

Quite a few Villans citing the transfers of Walcott and Iwobi as evidence that we simply don't know what we're doing. That's been tempered by the confirmation it's merely a loan, but didn't see a single voice arguing he should stay. The lad has played 33 minutes in 3 months and missed the Egypt AFCON squad after all.

Maybe the most telling comment was a description of him as a "Norwich level player" i.e great in the Championship and not really useable in the Premier League.

Another odd one for Evertonians, but we've seen more than our share. Lacina Traore loan anyone? Lucas Neill?
We seem to specialize in these sorts of "do a favour" type deals, so surely it's got to come back to us at some stage.

Gavin Johnson
189 Posted 13/01/2022 at 01:18:29
Derek, yes, Villa would have mugged us off if El Ghazi was a £15m makeweight in the Digne deal.

Btw, El Ghazi is a Dutch international and made the provisional Euro squad last summer.

Joe Digney
190 Posted 13/01/2022 at 01:42:16
Big fab Romano saying just now that he’s officially signed, loan with a buy option.

Can’t see him setting the world alight but might mean Iwobi can find a new club now, have a feeling he could end up at palace on loan under viera.

David Pearl
191 Posted 13/01/2022 at 02:24:39
Maybe he can score a few goals similar to the winner he scored for Villa at Goodison last season. Similar to a Gray, or Mirallas l'm sure he can do a job for us.
John Atkins
192 Posted 13/01/2022 at 02:41:49
I’m absolutely fuming over this El Ghazi signing, anyone who is being optimistic of him doing a job for us knows fuck all about football !!! He’s garbage, not good enough for the PL ! I posted earlier I’ve watched him since 2019 having Villa connections and he’s woeful. He’s slow, selfish and nowhere near as good as Townsend / Gray / Gordon, why another one footed winger …… I’ll tell you how bad he is, I’d have Iwobi over him anyday ….. He’s an average Championship player at best

Absolute joke of a signing ….. fuming

Don Alexander
193 Posted 13/01/2022 at 03:22:21
Our owner-s (and who knows what on that question?)/boardroom have, after squandering hundreds of £millions, now necessitated us shopping at the football equivalent of B&M Bargains rather than Harrods.

That said, I remember once eating a tasty B&M mince pie a few years back, before they went trying to be big-time of course.

To me it was their finest hour, and no doubt our owner-s/boardroom are expecting the same level of acclaim for their esteemed recruitment of the "legendary" (as their publicity will no doubt say if he scores or assists in his first three games) El Ghazi.

Jesus wept.

Barry Jones
194 Posted 13/01/2022 at 03:59:19
Taking him on loan appears to make sense, but how does this pan out? If what I am reading in the thread is true, Benitez doesn't want him. Then in all probability, he won't play him, particularly as we know, Benitez likes to show who is boss.

So if he never plays, what's the point, unless of course, Moshiri gets involved in selection, also to show who is boss. Not a very palatable scenario.

Justin Doone
195 Posted 13/01/2022 at 08:10:40
Having read many less than favourable comments on him I fail to understand why he looked so dangerous playing against us?

Unless it's because we are that woeful and his addition confirms he's better than what we have?

I'm of the opinion that loaning a player before buying them is sensible any should be done more often.

I don't believe he plays in a position that we don't already have enough cover for but, as long as he's not the last player we bring in ie a quality central midfielder, then all we can do is show our support.

Steve Shave
196 Posted 13/01/2022 at 08:28:22
Justin (195) the answer to that is simple, he looked dangerous against us because we are shit!
Andrew Ellams
197 Posted 13/01/2022 at 08:33:25
No issues with the player, just think this is a really odd deal.

If, as some are suggesting, this is all down to Moshiri my question is why is he so interested in a man who's career has never really been spectacular and earned a couple of international caps 6 years ago.

Steve Shave
198 Posted 13/01/2022 at 08:34:50
Look I am not knocking the guy, I want to get behind him. I think over the years the only player I had a real chip on my shoulder about was Gylfi (in hindsight I think this was probably unfair, I just felt this signing hamstrung us for years, not really his fault). I will welcome El Ghazi and I would also say I was probably in the Mike Gaynes camp years back when dweedle dee and dweedle dum were spunking the readies on number 10's and wingers we didn't need, he was one of the Ajax youngsters I would have taken over Klaassen.

Role back the years, he has PL experience and height. He moves well for a biggish winger and knows where the goal is. I pray (as previously mentioned) to the football Gods that if this is a cover signing and Richy is on his way, then Rafa the Gaffer is hoping to play 433 and we sign a diamond in midfield (Sarr please!) to compliment the Duke and Allan. Gordon and Gray are showing they can really play for the shirt.

Let's get behind him lads, its happening like it or not. I have a fear if we do too much business now the team will take even longer to gel, we are already in a dog fight with no guts.

Ajay Gopal
199 Posted 13/01/2022 at 08:58:14
We needed a midfield dynamo, not another winger. I fear that this will hamper Dobbin and Gordon’s developments. We have 7 players for 2 slots, and when Richarlison and Gray and DCL are fit, that is our front 3 right there. Townsend, Gordon, Dobbin, Iwobi and El Ghazi will be cooling their heels. Hopefully, Iwobi will be sold, and Dobbin is loaned out to a Championship team for the rest of the season to help get him game time.
Tony Abrahams
200 Posted 13/01/2022 at 09:02:13
There are some wage sheets doing the rounds right now Mike, that have Rondon earning £43,000 per week, which is actually a little bit higher than Demari Gray, and a little bit lower than Andros Townsend.

Tosun, is allegedly on £69,000 every week, and obviously doesn’t want to rush to another club, to start playing football just yet. Why risk getting injured again whilst he’s got another six months left on those wages? Surely the football can wait!

Jerome Shields
201 Posted 13/01/2022 at 09:18:19
As expected this January transfer window is not straight forward. Loans are probably the way out if the players to buy are not available.

Don't know about El Gzhazi, he is definitely not a hidden gem. Don't like the Moshiri / agent connection.

Get the distinct feeling of role reversal with Villa, unfortunately.

Andy Crooks
202 Posted 13/01/2022 at 09:27:34
Good post, John, @ 192. Always good to keep an open mind like you do. I agree, it would be ridiculous to write someone off without seeing them in a blue shirt.
I did it with Gray and looked a fool. Did the opposite with Rondon and looked a fool. Will just hope for the best with this one. Like to see how they do before fuming.
James Marshall
203 Posted 13/01/2022 at 09:53:11
He'll be another Mirallas this kid. Shows talent, is occasionally decent, but often flatters to deceive and generally has zero end product.

Why d'you think slippy Gerrard won't use him and will sell him to Everton? Yeah, no need to send a postcard.

Steve Shave
204 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:08:19
Good on you for being humble Andy (202) we don't know what's going to happen, sometimes bad signings gel (ala Gray) and the ones we think will be good turn out bad (I was with you on Rondon - he says holding his hands up). We don't know and it seems most of the time they don't know either! I agree with Ajay, I just hope this midfield dynamo comes out of all this activity, it's what we need. I feel like I've said that for the past 6 years?
Stephen Brown
205 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:21:02
Please get 15 more points asap and let the season finish! Depressing stuff!

Who makes these decisions? We already have 5/6 players in this position and desperately need cover/improvements elsewhere!? I hope I’m wrong but just seems so muddled and lacking in a plan.

Please can Mina, Doucoure, RIchy and DCL just stay fit and see us over the 15 point mark. It’s actually making me ill. It’s all I think about, I fear relegation.

This time last year Ancellotti and top 4, now I’m cheering Norwich losing to West Ham and Googling Burnley’s upcoming fixtures. So depressing and El Ghazi does not help.

Sorry to be so negative

Annika Herbert
206 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:30:56
Steve @ 198, you weren’t wrong about Gylfi. Terrible signing and vastly overpriced
Jon Harding
207 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:41:47
Just plain embarrassing
Will Mabon
208 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:47:32
El Garbage. Uncommitted, inconsistent, not needed here.

Left unchecked, this team will be transformed into the Newcastle of recent years. With commensurate results.

Matthew Williams
209 Posted 13/01/2022 at 11:49:26
We needed a left footed attacking central midfielder,who scores goals and drives us forward and we could end up with this bloke?

Typical Everton that!

Danny Baily
210 Posted 13/01/2022 at 12:20:35
He can pick up the ball and shoot, but we've got plenty of players that can do that.

Let's hope the rest of the footballing world is wrong and Rafa is onto something. I doubt it.

Tom Bowers
211 Posted 13/01/2022 at 12:29:29
This is just pushing the envelope. Is there nobody else out there who has the ability to help take command of Everton's weak midfield except this guy?

Come on Rafa this is not moving forward. We have spent big money on two new full-backs and nothing to get a grip where it is vitally necessary.

Chris James
212 Posted 13/01/2022 at 12:36:50
On a loan basis I think this is worth a shot, but I agree it doesn't solve immediate issues and I hope it won't come at the expense of Gordon who we really need to keep giving game time to - he's definitely seized his opportunity!

We obviously need centre forward options of course but so does everyone and it's a REALLY hard position to fill well, especially on a budget. See Tosun, Rondon and even Kean - all of whom had some sort of case, none of whom are proving up to the task. I'm assuming no-one here was hoping we'd be competing with Newcastle for Chris Wood or would want to splash the wages on an ageing Aubameyang, so I'm genuinely interested to see wha realistic options are suggested.

You would think that centre-back is an easier role to recruit for though and we do need someone commanding in there with Mina looking unable to stay fit for long. So I'm hopeful we can add someone there and maybe a centre-mid option in the window too, although Longstaff doesn't do it for me.

Brian Harrison
213 Posted 13/01/2022 at 12:59:09
On the pictures released yesterday of Everton training it looks like a most of the injured players took part, which included Richarlison and Mina as well as DCL. So if El Ghazi joins on a short loan then with already having 5 wide players who have all played this season, who loses out to allow El Ghazi to start and with already having 5 wide players he surely isn't coming for a short loan spell as a back up.
Robert Tressell
214 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:12:37
Chris # 212, I think there is a realistic chance of getting either Azmoun or Larin as a Striker option. Both out of contract in summer and would probably be prepared to play second fiddle to DCL, while still providing very good competition. Brereton Diaz too perhaps, also free in summer. Options in January are very limited. Dike and Pepi would have been interesting but not to be.

I can't see us spending a lot on a back up striker - given we really need central midfield players and probably a CB.

Dave Lynch
215 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:16:38
Let's be honest here.
He's (Benitez) not going to solve every problem we have positional wise overnight.
That would need a massive budget and no FFP restrictions.
He has inherited a squad of misfits, this lad is quite adaptable and is able to play in the middle.
On a loan he is ideal for us, let's just ride this fucking shit show out, dumped upon us by previous managers and start again next season.
Michael Williams
216 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:33:15
From Football 365 - It's Moshiri. Who knows but there's some text from the article:

"The Aston Villa winger is set to be a makeweight in this deal, but it has also been suggested that there is a significant catch; that this part of the deal is being brokered by Moshiri through the agent Kia Joorabchian, against the wishes of Benitez.

"But it has also been strongly suggested that Benitez has rejected this player on three occasions already, which threatens to conflagrate the relationship between the owner and the manager once and for all.

"As the business end of the season starts to hone into view, Everton are finding that the dysfunctional transfer decisions made since Farhad Moshiri took control of the club are starting to catch up with them."

Dave Lynch
217 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:35:25
We'll soon find out, Mike.

Benitez will not play him if he doesn't rate him.

Brian Cleveland
218 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:35:47
I also don't see why we need him. Someone earlier (sorry don't remember who) suggested it might even be to help Villa with their FFP so they could sign Digne. So we sell them Digne a bit cheap (seems cheap to me given length of contract left) take someone we don't need to do them a favour? Looks like a game of monopoly where two players decide to collude, ie, Gerard and Benitez, to the benefit of one, sacrificing the other.

With Richarlison, Gordon, Townsend and Gray, why do we need him? (Oh sorry, am I not the first to spot this?)

In terms of constraining the development of youngsters, I don't think it will affect Gordon much. He has been reliable and established himself over the past couple of months, but Dobbin is a different story. He is just getting his first minutes and is more vulnerable. This is more significant specifically due to his contract situation. No minutes and he'll be checking out the job pages at other clubs.

John Graham
219 Posted 13/01/2022 at 13:40:17
Good player with a good work ethic. He will suit either being out wide or can also play down the middle.

We only want players here who want to be here so get rid of those who are not going to fight for their place and the shirt and get players in who will give us more options.


Ian Nulty
220 Posted 13/01/2022 at 14:17:36
John @#219 - your postings are always positive, carry on! Like you, here is a player who will have a point to prove (if he signs of course) and an opportunity to show what he can do. I welcome a new face, we certainly need it and he seems to be a player when seen on TV who has the ability, goals against us I recall.
Hope this goes through..


Mike Gaynes
221 Posted 13/01/2022 at 14:34:45
Gotta admit I shake my head when people say things like they'd take Iwobi over this guy. El Ghazi scored ten league goals last season. Iwobi has scored three for us in three years. Iwobi famously cost us £28 million (at least) and this guy is costing us zero, zilch, zip, nada, with Villa even paying half his comparatively low salary. So this deal doesn't even slightly interfere with our efforts to reinforce the middle.

No idea what some of y'all are thinking.

Martin Reppion
222 Posted 13/01/2022 at 14:37:53
Brian #218, I have posted just about every time we've been linked with a 'winger' that with those 4 you mention we don't need another. Given that we also have Dobbin who looks to have real pace, though in need of some final product yet, an out and out 7/11 is not a priority.
Having said that, there are two scenarios that could be playing out here.
The good one. I.e. This guy comes in and plays as a Number 10 putting the front three into goal scoring positions. something we have lacked for a while.
The bad one. I.e. We are planning to cash in on Richarlison and therefore we need another wide player.
I am happy to see any player come in on loan, with an option to buy if it works out. If he plays well we sign him. If he stinks the place out we send him packing.
If we have money to waste, erm, I mean spend, looking around the premier league for potential signings I'd be prepared to take a punt on Deli Alli, who has a lot to prove wherever he goes. He also naturally plays the position we need to fill. On top of that he is the sort of narky player that gets the crowd going.
However, we all know it will be a fortune to the barcodes for Sean Longstaff. Underwhelming just about sums that one up.
Michael Lynch
223 Posted 13/01/2022 at 14:56:56
Nope, still don't get this one. As a billion other Evertonians have already pointed out, this isn't a weak spot in our squad. In fact, it's possibly the only strong spot. Okay, it's only a loan, but you have to assume he will get some game time. Even Josh King got the odd five minutes here and there. So I can only see him coming off the bench when we're chasing the game, a bit like Townsend did at Hull. But we've got Townsend to do that.

How does everyone fit in then? Two up front (DCL and Richie), with Gray and Gordon either side, a two in midfield and a flat four at the back? So Townsend and El Ghazi both on the bench and Iwobi making the tea? Or DCL up front, Grey and Richie wide, five at the back and a two man midfield? So Gordon and El Ghazi on the bench, Townsend making the tea, and Iwobi serving the bovril in the Dixie Dean Suite?

David Pearl
224 Posted 13/01/2022 at 15:08:26
This is a strange question here but can anyone help me out with a. jpeg Everton related pic 3000x3000 pixels that l can use for cover of a song?? It can be anything, even you. Thank you


Michael Connelly
225 Posted 13/01/2022 at 15:10:30
You got in there before me, Mike. He averages a goal or an assist every 2.25 games in the premier league for Villa,(4,057mins played; 15 goals; 5 assists) which is actually better than Richarlison's 2.30 for us. (9,515; 36;10). Not quite sure where the views above are coming from.

Lot of praise being given to Gordon, who's shot is still poor - frequently mishit, and lacking power.

Michael Lynch
226 Posted 13/01/2022 at 15:23:34
Aye but weren't half of his goals last season penalties? He looks a decent footballer, but isn't his preferred position exactly where Demarai Gray plays? Certainly looks like it on YouTube, cos that's where all his best work takes place.

I'm not against having him in the squad, but surely if we have limited funds, he's a massive luxury? Defenders? Central midfield?

Mike Gaynes
227 Posted 13/01/2022 at 16:08:42
Michael #226, sure, he might not be necessary, but in a side that recently has featured Kenny and Iwobi as attacking wingers, I'm not sure I'd describe him as a luxury.

And he's certainly not a "massive" one, since he's costing us nothing in transfer fees and only £15,000 a week in salary. (Villa is paying half his paycheck.) Heck, if he scores three goals the rest of the way and wins us even one game, he's worth that much.

And again, there's nothing in this deal that remotely interferes with our efforts to reinforce the spine. Almost three more weeks left in the window and every penny is still available.

Jack Convery
228 Posted 13/01/2022 at 16:55:20
Maybe Villa needed to reduce the wage bill for FFP - we take him on half pay and Villa can pay wages that Digne wanted. Or as I posted before Richy will go either now or in summer and this guy gets an audition for £15k a week.

However blues please bring in a decent mf and cd before the window suts - cheers.

Mike Corcoran
229 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:04:20
El Ghazi confirmed on OS
Ben Howard
230 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:04:41
Club have just announced his arrival
Rob Halligan
231 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:07:15
Was just going to post "Has this transfer gone all quiet, and maybe it's not happening after all", when lo and behold, there it is on the official club website.


Mike Gaynes
232 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:09:45
Rafa fought it to the last minute, Rob!

Pretty good quotes:

“I will work hard and give everything I have. That is the least you can expect from a player.

“That is what I will start with and from there hopefully I will be able to score goals and give assists."

“I feel can be a lot of value with my pace and technique going forward. I can hold the ball and I am decent in one-on-ones. I can always score a goal in an important moment."

“I have already met a few fans and it’s great to see how people live for the Club and it’s basically their religion."

“I think the wingers we have got are real quality and I hope I can compete with them."

Robert Tressell
233 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:12:10
Welcome to Everton, Anwar.

Personally, I expect him to make a decent contribution - frustrating at times with the odd flash of genius.

Every single goal counts.

If we can add to the central midfield without losing any existing quality that would be good.

Notice that Villar who we were strongly linked with has left Roma on loan today so that one is off the table.

Rob Dolby
234 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:17:32
He can't get a game for Villa but is going to improve us?

This window is getting more bizarre by the day.

Have we actually strengthened in this window or weakened the team?

Unless we start bringing in 1st team ready players I am afraid we have weakened an already average squad.

Derek Knox
235 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:20:59
While I don't expect this guy to be like Mbappe, let's please at least give him a chance, if indeed he does arrive, which does look likely. I have always been a believer in ' Horses for Courses ' whether it be a player or a Manager.

Look at Demarai Gray, obviously most Clubs had written him off and didn't show any interest, and he ended up coming to us for a paltry (£1.7 M, in today's crazy Market that is) and arguably the success story of our poor season, with Townsend (free) not far behind him ! So come on give him a bit of slack TW.

Furthermore, every time he has played against us, he has had a decent game and invariably scored a cracking goal, so who knows ?

Mike Gaynes
236 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:21:54
Rob, I would just point out that Townsend and Gray couldn't get a game either when we acquired them. Worked out pretty well anyway.

Julian Exshaw
237 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:23:15
When Gray and Townsend signed I was, as Jamie Crowley would say 'meh'. I was proven wrong, as always. This is another 'meh' for me but he's coming on loan so nothing ventured.
Brent Stephens
238 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:23:15
As Derek says.
Mike Gaynes
239 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:31:50
Good point, DK. At least now he won't be scoring any spectacular late goals against us next weekend. Which he has in each of the past two seasons.
Derek Knox
240 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:35:08
Mike G, well he could do if it was an Own G . oh let's not even go there ! :-)
Gavin Johnson
241 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:37:50
El Ghazi comes across well in his interview. He sounds like he's keen and wants to impress.

Trying to be optimistic this might be a good loan if he's played centrally behind Dom. I read that he can even play centre forward. In which case he could be an alternative to the hopeless Rondon, and a lot more direct with his pace.

Steven Telford
242 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:41:05
We get 10m less than Digne is worth, and no time to waste in setting fire to that cash.
James out
Digne out
Both because of 'personal issues' with the manager.
Rob Halligan
243 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:45:48
Mike # 239. He won't be playing at all next weekend.
Brian Cleveland
244 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:52:40
Martin #222
Feel the same about Alli. Have hated him because of that narky streak, but it's something we have a lack of, and that same little nastiness is what might give him the edge to prove himself again somewhere else now he's lost his way at Spuds. Was pretty superb a few years ago, was a great partner to Kane. Do the same for us with DCL? Dreaming perhaps...
But is he a FSW type of player? Cue Longstaff (who?).

Welcome to Anwar anyway. Show us what you've got.

Chris James
245 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:54:20
As I mentioned above, I think this is a fair signing on top of some very good transfer business by Benitez so far.

Been reading some interesting suggestions for central midfield players here - Golovin sounds exciting, Dele Alli is definitely an interesting shout, and what about Lingard or Van de Beek? Both are surplus to requirements at United and appear likely to move (the latter maybe on loan) this window.

Steve Shave
246 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:55:49
Welcome to Everton lad. This is definitely a strange one, as previously mentioned by me and others, I fear Richy is off this window as promised by the club in the summer when PSG were circling. Conjecture of course but it's the only way this makes sense to me.

Agree with above comment that he sounds up for it, says all the right things and I hope above conjecture about him being a Moshiri signing is off the mark and that Rafa wanted him here. Surely Mosh has learned his lesson??

More conjecture but I predict an Iwobi loan to build his confidence, maybe abroad? Longstaff will be our only other signing. I want better quality but it is what it is, we are a mess and this could be the weirdest window of all time.

Bill Hawker
247 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:57:54
It's a loan so this is a no brainer. Very little if any risk for the club. Hopefully Everton and El Ghazi get what they both need out of this deal.
Jeff Armstrong
248 Posted 13/01/2022 at 17:58:20
Surely this puts Rondon down the pecking order.
Will Mabon
249 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:02:55
David @ 224,

are you asking for a personally-taken photo as opposed to something downloaded, due to copyright?

Iakovos Iasonidis
250 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:07:31
Only certainty is that next year wherever he plays he will score 3 against us.
Anyway, I wish him and us the best.
Tony Twist
251 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:08:11
This is a reasonable signing, it is a loan, if it is a Moshiri signing then good. It says to Rafa I am the boss of you (obviously I wouldn't be saying that it anyone else was manager), it puts Rafa in his place. Rafa has been given time, a lot of time to put things straight and may be, if this is a Moshiri signing then it is Moshiri saying it I want it you would be gone in a second. He is a good squad player, a creative player, we need as many as possible with the stirling work Rafa is doing putting the defence right so we can attempt to out score teams and actually win matches. I think we will be lucky to just lose one (Digne) of our big names this transfer window.
Iakovos Iasonidis
252 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:09:26
Funny thing is that from ancelloti, james and digne we went to benitez, rondon and el ghazi, you can't say it is an upgrade.
Nick Page
253 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:12:05
If Benitez didn’t want this fella then we’ll never see him play, given our managers penchant for single mindedness. That said and despite my earlier reservations he’s a useful addition on loan and hope it works for us.
Johan Elmgren
254 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:12:26
I saw El Ghazi a couple of games some seasons ago when he was breaking through at Ajax. I thought he was a really good prospect, with great technique and an unpredictable streak. I thought then, "this would be a great player for us"... He hasn't quite developed as much as I thought he was going to since then, though... Now, he's here and I hope he can find his mojo again and deliver on that early promise I saw when he played at Ajax. Good luck Anwar!
Jason Li
255 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:13:47
Nick Page @ 43

I like the stats ideas. Also I think having 3 excellent centre backs available at all times would have covariance to higher league positions too. So let's hope we get at least one more top centre back in. Or is that more predictive analytics?

I think Rafa will sometimes move Gray or Gordon to the number 10 role as Richarlison does have a few injuries or needs resting after playing for Brazil.

Anyway, players that can provide more goals and quality balls in the box always welcome. No-one was expecting the next Ryan Giggs or Robert Pires to walk through the door, but at least it's someone ready made with goals in him.

Finally, this makes Iwobi even less likely to play so we can't complain too much!

Kevin Prytherch
256 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:16:12
Iakovos 252 - I was going to post the same thing. 18 months ago, after signing Allan and Doucoure, and when James played an inch perfect cross field ball to Digne who crossed for Calvert-Lewin to head home an equaliser under Ancelotti, if you’d have said we’d have Benitez as manager and Rondon, El Ghazi and Townsend to look forward to as regular starters, you’d have been laughed at.

How far our expectations have fallen!!!

Barry Rathbone
257 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:16:53
Tony Twist 251

If Moshiri is interfering to that extent we are finished

Ralph Basnett
258 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:19:31
Steve 242 those players left because of high salaries.

As already stated, the two defenders cost less than the Digne money and are on half his wages.

Whilst not a Rafa lover he is curbing our salaries whilst long term strengthening and so don't see an issue with that.

Ralph Basnett
259 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:19:32
Steve 242 those players left because of high salaries.

As already stated, the two defenders cost less than the Digne money and are on half his wages.

Whilst not a Rafa lover he is curbing our salaries whilst long term strengthening and so don't see an issue with that.

Ralph Basnett
260 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:19:33
Steve 242 those players left because of high salaries.

As already stated, the two defenders cost less than the Digne money and are on half his wages.

Whilst not a Rafa lover he is curbing our salaries whilst long term strengthening and so don't see an issue with that.

Ralph Basnett
261 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:19:33
Steve 242 those players left because of high salaries.

As already stated, the two defenders cost less than the Digne money and are on half his wages.

Whilst not a Rafa lover he is curbing our salaries whilst long term strengthening and so don't see an issue with that.

Pat Kelly
262 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:19:47
Rafa has been demoted to putting out the cones. My thoughts are with Dunc.
Colin Glassar
263 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:22:48
Don’t think we need him but if it means the end of Iwobi then, welcome aboard la.
Keith Gleave
264 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:25:35
Why, really why.
Dale Rose
265 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:27:44
Kevin 256. Bit hard on Townshend mate. He hasn't done a bad job so far.
Stuart Sharp
266 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:31:56
Sincerely hope my previous comments about El Ghazi look foolish soon. He's always been a very frustrating player in my view, but maybe he'll thrive in a new setting. Not holding my breath, but will give him full support like any new signing.

Bit of a surprise though. Wide positions are arguably one place we don't need to strengthen so much.

Chris Locke
267 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:33:29
I’m fairly happy with this signing. Those suggesting we have too many wingers need only consider our injury record this season.
We also need decent options from the bench which we’re currently missing.
This was highlighted against lowly Hull when Gray played nearly the full game despite being pooped at full time.
I also think this could possibly allow the likes of Richie and Gray to play further forward which may help with our creativity issues.
However the main reason I’m happy with this is it means never again will we see Iwobi tip toe along a wing producing exactly fcuk all in either direction.
Clive Rogers
268 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:33:43
Of our three January signings, Patterson is one for the future while El Ghazi and Mykolenko are mid table type signings aimed at avoiding relegation. In his first game Mykolenko looked distinctly average and El Ghazi, when he came on against Utd lost the ball every time he had it.
Soren Moyer
269 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:34:16
Are we still paying our FORMER number 10's wages?
Tony Everan
270 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:35:08
Welcome to Everton, Anwar El Ghazi

There will some game congestion soon after all the postponements, there will be niggles, injuries, fatigue.

This lad on loan costs us peanuts so it’s a no lose situation to help keep us strong. Also, it lets us have a good look at him and how he fits in, before we spend any money.

Good luck, Anwar.

Will Mabon
271 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:35:43
"Whilst not a Rafa lover he is curbing our salaries whilst long term strengthening and so don't see an issue with that."

Ralph, you would have no issue with Benitez engineering a public falling-out with better players to save wages (Whilst actually weakening our squad)?

The widely perceived understanding is that Digne has left due disagreement, not cutting costs, Benitez having tried to paint it as Digne wanting to leave.

Tommy Carter
272 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:36:02
I don’t mind this signing purely and simply because it’s another player capable of getting a goal. Which we don’t have many of. DCL. Richarlison. Gray. Townsend. These are the only players who may realistically score more than 5 goals in a season.

However this defensive mastermind of a manager seems to have neglected the fact that his team
A) cannot stop giving away a lead in a game
B) cannot defend set pieces
C) cannot defend well for large parts of most games

His answer to this is to sign 2 completely untested and inexperienced defenders. One of whom is arriving from an entirely different culture

Clive Rogers
273 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:36:06
Pat, 262, shouldn’t that have been clones instead of cones?
Ashley Walton
274 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:40:17
Does this signing mean the Iwobi is on the way out…? We can but live in hope…
Tony Everan
275 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:42:33
Welcome to Everton, Anwar El Ghazi

There will some game congestion soon after all the postponements, there will be niggles, injuries, fatigue.

This lad on loan costs us peanuts so it’s a no lose situation to help keep us strong. Also, it lets us have a good look at him and how he fits in, before we spend any money.

Good luck, Anwar.

Joe McMahon
276 Posted 13/01/2022 at 18:50:01
Tony@275, well said, and some posistivity needed!
Alexander Murphy
277 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:01:57
How many Iwobi's are TOO MANY ?
Gavin Johnson
278 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:02:27
10m euros or £8.4m if we decided to buy him in the summer. He could be a useful squad signing if we could get Iwobi out of the door
Steve Shave
279 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:06:14
Soren 269 bloody hope not mate! He who shall not be named (if found guilty) ruined our chances of getting any return for our ridiculous fee paid out. Surely with said person being suspended we aren't paying a penny? It will be interesting how it pans out, he is after all on £120k a week apparently.
Alex Gray
280 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:11:34
Only a loan so low risk which I'm happy about. If we’re saving money and just need bodies in then loans are the way forward until the summer unless we can shift a few players.
Danny O’Neill
281 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:16:42
Okay on the positive, he's here, so good luck to him in his Everton career. Sometimes a change can change a player.

I didn't have a clue who the player was and even at a young age was bemused we signed a Liverpool reserve. Underwhelming. Kevin Sheedy; my favourite Everton player of all time.

We signed a crocked 26 year old from Bolton on the cheap because of injuries. Underwhelming. Peter Reid.

We signed a player who had moved from Stoke and was surplus to requirements at Sunderland as he was not deemed good enough. Underwhelming. Paul (who?) Bracewell.

We signed a player for a struggling team who was arguably past his best and openly admitted he hid some of his medical records before his medical with Everton. Underwhelming. Andy Gray.

Okay, I'll take the counter challenge that it was a different era.

We signed a Championship player from Millwall who many clubs, including the mighty Crystal Palace were swerving due to knee injury history, so we got him relatively cheap as Rooney departed. Underwhelming. Tim Cahill.

We signed a Leicester reject on the cheap who didn't sparkle at Leverkusen and who no-one else wanted as Rodriguez left for the desert. Underwhelming. Demarai Gray.

Now I know this could be countered 10 times over with some of the shit signings we've embarked on over the decades that we thought would come good, myself included.

That's the point. You just never know, so I'm going to give him a chance. At 26 and with an eye for goal, we should do rather than have him judged before he's pulled on a Royal Blue Shirt because of what he has or hasn't done at Villa.

Positivity. Sorry, that's all I've got left to offer. The dogs dreading tomorrow morning.

Brian Wilkinson
282 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:24:31
Happy with that deal, try before you buy, and if he blossoms, a modest fee agreed as well, if not we send him back.

I would have given him the number 17 shirt.

Mal van Schaick
283 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:24:46
I’d give this lad a chance. He links play up well, better than a few we have. Let’s see how he goes.
Mal van Schaick
284 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:24:47
I’d give this lad a chance. He links play up well, better than a few we have. Let’s see how he goes.
Michael Lynch
285 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:26:32
I'm expecting him to be a mixture of Salah, Mbappe and Trevor Steven, with a side-order of Duncan McKenzie.

Welcome El Ghazi, may you score many goals in front of the Goodison faithful, with us singing "EL GHAZI OH OH" to the tune of Volare.

Michael Burke
286 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:34:52
Clive 268, give the Ukrainian lad a chance for God's sake. He's moved thousands of miles from home, to a new culture, team and way of playing football and he has a distinctly average first game. Well thats a big shock. It has even taken the best player in the world a little while to settle into his new surroundings in Paris. Back to El Ghazi, Villa mate is very disappointed he's gone. Doesn't think Gez has given him a fair crack since his arrival.
Phil Smith
287 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:43:05
Uninspired by this one but he can score goals from midfield, so maybe that's why he's been brought in. 10 goals in 28 appearances (11 as a sub) last season is not to be laughed at.
Danny O’Neill
288 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:48:11
Michael Lynch, that is a lethal sounding cocktail. Only try one of them tomorrow night.

Michael @268. I know. How can we judge a 22 year old who landed in a foreign country, not speaking the language days before his debut in a dysfunctional team?

I guess if Patterson doesn't make a Tony Hibbert tackle, score a Gary Stevens style pile driver and deliver a peach of a cross for Calvert-Lewin on Saturday, he's a dud?

George Cumiskey
289 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:49:34
It's rumoured Rafa didn't want him so will be give him game time ? You know what a stubborn bastard he is !
Derek Knox
290 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:52:21
Michael @ 286, I would hate to be in Court with many Tw'ers making up the Jury, not only would they advocate the re-introduction of Hanging, The Iron Maiden, The Rack etc, but I would be guilty before I had even a chance to speak.

And, that's just for a Minor Parking Offence, that was also mistaken identity ! :-)

Soren Moyer
291 Posted 13/01/2022 at 19:58:14
Steve, It wouldn't surprize me if we did. Everything is possible with our board of clowns.
Also, is Fat Rafa planning to play El Ghazi as left back 😬?
Dave Abrahams
292 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:00:28
Is he eligible for Saturday’s game?
Duncan McDine
294 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:04:33
Derek, a minor parking offence might not seem like a big deal to you, but what are you doing letting a minor drive your car in the first place? I’m sure both you and I would be hung drawn and quartered for our attempts at humour.
Ray Roche
295 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:04:55
Dave, Woods signed for Newcastle before 12-00 today and can play on Saturday, so I understand, so it depends when the paperwork was completed. That’s according to Sky.
Soren Moyer
296 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:07:38
Can we call him El G. then? Not to be confused with LG home appliances.
Dave Abrahams
297 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:09:14
Ray (295), thanks Ray, so if he can’t play Saturday he won’t be eligible for the next game either when we play his owner club Aston Villa.
Bill Hawker
298 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:12:38
I thought I heard on the video interview that he was eligible to play tomorrow.
Derek Knox
299 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:14:29
Duncan in mitigation, it was a Morris Minor ! :-)
Michael Williams
300 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:16:29
Steven 242 "We get 10m less than Digne is worth..."

Really? How do you know? If Digne was worth more money than there would have been some sort of bidding war with more teams involved. If Digne is worth so much - he must be that good right? - then why didn't some Champions League or "big six" team come calling? You know why they didn't? Because they don't want him.

The whole world knew Digne was available - every club in the world had a chance to scoop him up. Every football team in the world had a chance to decide if he could help them achieve their goals and out of every football club in the world it was Villa that wanted him most.

If more teams wanted Digne we could have gotten more money. That is how it works (when a player does not have a release clause).

Dave Abrahams
301 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:17:29
Bill (298), yes just checked on Everton’s website and he is eligible, sorry I never checked before Ray (295).
Andy Finigan
302 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:17:46
ELG scored 6 penaltys last season, does anyone no his convertion rate from the spot. Only asking seeing DCL missed his last one.
Danny O’Neill
303 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:21:27
Eligible to play Saturday.

Debut goal it is then.

Duncan McDine
304 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:22:24
Collectors item Derek… the car (not the joke)
Chris Corn
305 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:24:27
You know Benitez is on a hiding to nothing when Digne says he went to play for Gerard and no one bats an eyelid.

Micheal 300. Fair comment. I think Digne discovered he wasn't as coveted as he thought.

Dave Ganley
306 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:24:44
How the fuck have we ended up like this again? Its like being back in the late 90s when we were taking everybody else's cast offs and fighting relegation all the time except its worse now due to the gobshites winning everything.

Total basket case of a club, learn nothing, destined to make the same mistakes over and over. Moyes never had any money but at least he scoured the lower leagues looking for good young talent. Now we're just doing what Walter etc did taking journeymen who have been there seen it and never done it.

The club make it very hard to support it. Last 6 years have been the worst supporting Everton and I've followed them since the early 70s. Piss poor recruitment, no attention to making sure there was a good spirit in the dressing room and players just taking the piss as to whether they turn up to play or not. Absolute shambles of a club, embarrassing even. People should be held to account for this debacle but they won't.

I was against the movement against arsenal at leaving the game early but now. well id probably back it now, the only thing these clowns seem to respond to is bad press. I hate what Moshiri and Co have done to my club. We are just a laughing stock, just throw the name Everton into any punch line. Half a billion quid and we end up in a far worse state than when we had no cash. Makes Moyes look like a football genius. One thing is for sure, I've never seen it this toxic at the ground for such a sustained amount of time, and for good reason. We, the punters can see the club being crushed into the ground while Moshiri/Kenwright etc just sit there like bumbling idiots wondering who they can throw under the bus next.
Fucking shameful the way this club is run

Soren Moyer
307 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:42:19
Dave 306, thats because Kenwright is a fraud and has conned Moshiri whilest he has his own "footballing people" to supervise transfers, etc.. Hence the status quo despite having a rich owner nowadays. Until he's gone, expect no better.
Mike Oates
308 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:45:20
If I was Gordon, or Dobbin (who's yet to sign a contract) I'd wonder what the hell has El Ghazi been brought in for - and what impact is he going to have on our careers, our chances for PL minutes, which are rare anyway.
So now we've got Townsend, Gray, Richarlison, El Ghazi in front of us ! Why bother should Dobbin sign a contract ! go join a German Club to play football.
Phil Bickerstaff
309 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:46:48
Just read on the villa forum that ELG is a good championship player, very light weight and won’t be missed.
Oh, good at taking penalties though
Another waste of time.
Typical buy of the fat waiter
Kunal Desai
310 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:49:48
Welcome Anwar, i'm sure you'll fit in well with most the shite here at this club.
Martin Mason
311 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:51:42
Wtf is going on in the asylum? It looks like the end of days to me?
Danny Baily
312 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:54:47
Buying championship quality players to fight a relegation battle. One league win since September.

If it's anything other than a win on Saturday then Benitez simply has to go. Although it might already be too late.

Ben King
313 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:56:27
Good signing this

On loan and prove + gets goals

I don’t understand the negativity surrounding this deal. It’s like we’re miserable about everything. It’s our default

Kevin Naylor
314 Posted 13/01/2022 at 20:56:41
Did Rafa get away with taking Richarlison off trying to orchestrate another Digne type incident only to be foiled that he was actually injured. Just another conspiricy theory........?
Dave Ganley
315 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:15:12
Not being funny Ben #313 but I'm really struggling to find anything optimistic about Everton these days. We have been humiliated regularly over the last few years on the field, we buy journeymen for top dollar, we hire busted managers, we have an owner that can't stop meddling over matters he seemingly has no idea about and we are struggling to see where our next win is coming from. Now we are taking Aston Villas cast offs, reportedly due to moshiri being mates with the agent. How fucked up is that? Really mate, whats to be happy about?

Mark Ryan
316 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:22:22
Lakavos @ 252. I'll happily compare Ancellotti, James and Digne to Benitez, Rondon and El Ghazi. You say it's hardly an upgrade but personally I think Ancellotti is a shithouse and past his sell by date, James didn't want to be at Everton anymore than Carlo did and Digne is past his best too, albeit still a good player. I want players at Everton who want to be here not mercenary bell-ends. El Ghazi may prove a shrewd stop gap for us. Only my opinion like 👍
Bobby Mallon
317 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:34:17
Ian nulty 220 he won’t do anything if Rafa does not play him. What a shit show we are. Rafa dislikes the player the owner takes him anyway what does that say. Will he be the New Josh King
Ian Riley
318 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:35:11
Let the guy kick a ball before condemning!

This has to stop! The negativity! Everton are not in the championship!

Rafa is not coming to a club with the trophy cabinet over flowing! We have spent the money and big money buys are over!! Many managers have come and gone. It's time to support the players, they will save us from relegation. Unless anyone has a billion pounds or two to buy the club, we can only give our support!

Pointless complaining about the manager. Absolutely pointless!!!! I couldn't care who the manager is. Players get results and by working harder with our support and being positive changes results.

My family will always come first but Everton football club are second. Not matter how draining, frustrating, and probably cause my ending we must stay positive!! We are Everton!!

Mike Price
319 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:35:49
The RB pile on of hate is doing us no favours. Toxic atmosphere affecting the players and helping no one.
I’m not happy with his selections and formations but he’s shaking up the fat cat culture which we’ve all hated for so long. Ancelotti, James and Digne were on mega star money and didn’t produce. Signing expensive players on ridiculous contracts has crippled us; Tosun, Walcott, Scneiderlin, Iwobi, Gomes, Sigurdsson, Mina, Delph….he’s been dealt a bad hand but some of the dead wood can go in the summer and we might as well write off the Iwobi situation.
His transfer dealings have been much better than the last few wasters, Rondon excepted, but he was only supposed to be a back up.
Stephen Vincent
320 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:48:38
Phone rings on manager's desk at the beginning of December.
Stevie G La - Hi boss it's your skipper, need a favour like.
FSW - What's up my son?
SGL - Desperate for a good left back, any chance of gettin dat Digne on the cheap?
FSW - Nah the fans quite like the cocky froggie git. Hang on though I could piss him off, make it seem like it's his fault. You could have him for £22m.
SGL - That's way too much boss hang on doh, ow about you take dis championship at best winger off me ands for a lot more than he's worth, Tell you what boss, can ave him on loan like til de end of de season then give me 10mil.
FSW - Yeah that should confuse the idiots on the board here especially if we say Chelsea, and maybe the Geordie lot are interested as well.
SGL - Yep dat should werk, better leave it to de middle of de window dow, just in case like.
FSW - Consider it done my son.
Peter Carpenter
321 Posted 13/01/2022 at 21:54:55
Well, we can't complain about lack of transfer activity. No anxious waiting until 10 minutes to midnight on the last day! That's quite a change.
Dave Abrahams
322 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:00:46
Well I thought Mr.Benitez was trying to sort the club out with some decent and relatively cheap signings but with Moshiri going over his head with this latest signing it doesn’t are much sense, I’ll give the new lad a chance to prove himself, maybe Mr. Benitez won’t, he might say to Moshiri if you want me to manage Everton let me do it my way,but to be honest Mr. Moshiri you’ll fuck this club up a lot quicker than me.
Mike Price
323 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:07:33
I think it’s very unlikely that Moshiri sanctioned this deal without Benitez agreeing. There seems a lot of hysteria and people believing anything to put us, and especially RB, in a bad light.
Rob Halligan
324 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:13:07
Mike # 323. I agree with you. I find it quite staggering that anyone could think an owner would go and buy / loan a player behind the managers back. It's the kind of situation that could force a manager to resign. 🙏🙏🙏
Mike Gaynes
325 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:19:35
Andy #302, he's 7-for-7 at Villa. No misses.

John Atkins
326 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:23:27
I’ll post it again …. I’ve watched him since 2019 having Villa interests …. He is fucking useless, I’m absolutely devastated he’s signed for us, Iwobi is a better player that’s how bad he is …. Villa fans pissing themselves and laughing at us

We are a joke of a club ….. anyone who tries to see an ounce of optimism in this signing knows fuck all about football

John Atkins
327 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:28:29
Mark Ryan #316 … could be a shrewd signing …. Cloud Cuckoo land !!!! Have you ever watched him ? Obviously not, he’s a championship player at best, like I’ve posted - I’ve watched him for 3 years … how the fuck do you think he can be a shrewd signing ? That’s why we are where we are with comments like this
Jamie Sweet
328 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:37:57
I just get the feeling that our Farhad listens to, and allows himself to be influenced by, all the wrong people.
Jamie Sweet
329 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:38:10
I just get the feeling that our Farhad listens to, and allows himself to be influenced by, all the wrong people.
Stephen Vincent
330 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:40:41
Don't know if it's already been said but my Villa friend was wetting himself earlier, on the Holt he's known as El Khazi.
Mike Gaynes
331 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:45:06
John #326, and Phil #309... uh huh.

I call BS.

I've just been on VillaTalk.com. I saw some who were pleased, some sad, but absolutely fucking nobody "pissing themselves and laughing at us." (Not sure what they'd be laughing about, John, since we're not paying a dime for him and Villa's covering half his salary.) At worst they're hoping he plays well, earns a permanent transfer and generates them a nice fee. Here's a sampling of recent comments (look it up for yourselves if you don't believe me):

"I genuinely hope AEG is fondly remembered by the fans. We have some absolute plums in the fanbase who refuse to acknowledge the excellent work he's done for us in the time he's been here."

"thanks AEG! Some great memories."

"Very best of luck to the bloke. True professional."

"He scored in the playoff final. He is permanently in Villa history as one of our heros, nobody can rewrite history!"

"He made a pretty big sacrifice by breaking his fast, then turned into prime Ronaldo for our biggest game in the last 5 years at least. Definitely one who should be talked about for years to come, for that alone."

"I think I’ve made my views clear on here previously. In terms of consistent performance I think Anwar doesn’t fit where we hope to be so I'm not disappointed he has left from a playing perspective. But as I’ve said previously, the moment at Wembley was the greatest sporting moment in my life, and the fact he’s a religious man and he stopped fasting for the play offs is something we should all be grateful of. So Anwar, thanks for the memories mate, hope you smash it Everton"

"Just watched his interview at Everton and I forgot how much I love the bloke!"

"Hope he smashes it, be great to see him start off with a goal on Saturday and change a few of the Everton fans minds."

"Anwar El Ghazi will wear 34 for Everton in tribute to former friend and teammate Abdelhak Nouri 💙"

From VitalFootball.com, again mixed reviews but nobody laughing:

"Not the biggest fan of Anwar. I always get frustrated with players who clearly have good technical ability but seem to lack the desire and fight to be successful. Think a few of us on here have said previously if you mixed El Ghazi's technique with Trezeguets energy and combativeness we'd have a top player on our hands. Hopefully he'll perform well for Everton and earn himself a Summer move somewhere."

"Like Trez (but more) he has played his part in Villa's history by scoring some priceless and important goals, but it's time to move on for the sake of his career and I wish him all the best."

OK, John and Phil, over to you.

Chris Corn
332 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:51:30
To be fair to you Mike Gaynes, if you make a statement or viewpoint, you always have the research and evidence to back it. A true advocate and a level head amongst the current madness.

John Atkins
333 Posted 13/01/2022 at 22:59:07
Mike with all due respect, up until last week you’d probably never had El Ghazi on your radar, you’re not paying attention to my posts are you ?

I have been close to Villa since 2019 (for personal reasons) I’ve watched this guy come in and followed him regularly, have a look at his stats ? Most players now are judged on their stats … he’s got splinters in arse he’s spent that much time on the Villa bench. He’s lazy, he slow and he will never be a top player … like I said I’d rather have Iwobi. I used to be like you Mike ever the optimist when we sign a new player, believing the move and change of club could reignite a career. Let me tell you again, he is not the quality we should be signing, not in a million years. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I reckon I know more than you ever will on this guy, and spouting off sentimental shite from Villa fans on Twitter just doesn’t help us, he’s not even good enough for Norwich ! Don’t you think Dean Smith the former Villa manager who signed him in 2019 would have maybe tried to get him at Norwich ? Like I said I have pretty good insight ! Trust me

Sam Hoare
334 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:06:30
Tangential but I see Rafael Leao scored again for Milan tonight. Having a pretty good season. Wonder how he would have done if we’d have got him instead of Kean?

Not that we have necessarily always had the choice but there seems a lot of times where we have been looking for a certain type of player and picked the wrong one. We signed Ramiro Funes Mori when we might have got Van Dijk. We signed Bolasie when we could have got Zaha. We signed Sigurdsson when we might have got Maddison. Signed Klaassen when we might have got Grealish. Signed Josh Bowler when we might have signed Erling Haaland!

Of course all clubs will have such stories but I wonder if we have got it wrong more than most recently?

Justin Doone
335 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:07:53
I'm looking forward to seeing him and Iwobi play in the same team so I can judge for myself who's better. Wow did I just write that?

Without wanting to write too much about Iwobi, he seems very unsure of his role, his position, the tactics, what to do and when to do it. He plays better coming from deep so he can see options develop rather than having instinct, or much awareness or creativity.

El Ghazi often chooses the wrong option but his general ability, creativity and goalscoring threat is far greater imo.

In a strong, North East accent, "El Ghazi more options like".

John Atkins
336 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:09:25
And Mike as for Villa Talk … I can send you up to 10 WhatsApp messages from Villa fans who I know very well, most who are season ticket holders messaging me taking the piss and laughing at us for signing this Dud! Also it’s not about the fucking wages it’s about having top quality players who can improve the squad … which he certainly won’t - I’m absolutely fucking fuming, I don’t think I’ve been as angry about a signing like this for a long time ….. comments like yours again emphasises why we are in the position we are, accepting average, shite, mediocre players ….. And I’m getting pretty pissed off with it right now I can tell you
Stu Darlington
337 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:14:54
Go along with your views John.
Villa are a club with aspirations,so if he was any good why would they let him go ?
We don’t need any more wingers,so who do we leave out to play him?
Only positive for me is it’s a loan move and Villa are paying half his wages
Worrying thing is Benitez apparently has turned him down in the past and this is Moshiri’s decision in conjunction with his dodgy agent buddy Joorbachian.
Nice one Everton,I think I would sooner have Sean Longstaff!!
Soren Moyer
338 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:17:06
Sam 334, or we went for Marcus Bent instead of Darren Bent (both were playing for Ipswich Town)!!! Weird.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
339 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:22:07
Has it been mentioned elsewhere - sorry reading through 300+ is too many.. . . .

But was there a - if you take him on loan and so cover some of his wages for the next 6 months, then we will pay £23m not £20m for Digne?
The guy is out of contract at the end of the season so it is a bit like someone taking Tosun or Delph from us.
Maybe it was a sweetener.
Or has that been mentioned?

Mike Gaynes
340 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:22:43
John #333, come on, man, I didn't say one word about your negative opinion of the guy. You're absolutely entitled, especially since you've watched more of him than I have. (My last sight of him was when he beat us at Goodison in May.) What I called out was your statement that the Villa fans were pissing themselves laughing at us, which made zero sense to me because they're getting zero for him. So I checked. And they're not laughing.

You think he's not the quality we should be signing, which works out fine because this is a free loan, and we're not signing him unless he shows quality. I've never said I believe he'll reignite his career here, but I didn't expect Gray or Townsend would do so either, and here we are.

Just for the record, El Ghazi was very much on my radar in 2017 when he was at Ajax, because I'd watched a bunch of their games that season. In fact I called for us to go after Dolberg, Ziyech or El Ghazi (correctly assuming Sanchez was out of reach) instead of Davy Klaassen. We all know how that turned out.

Bottom line is if El Ghazi wins us even one game with a late goal off the bench, this deal will be worth it. But he will have to be better than Townsend and/or Gordon, or he won't play and we lose nothing.

John Atkins
341 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:32:54
Fair point Mike, we all want the same … But I just know this guy is a dud, nothing more to say
Mike Gaynes
342 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:35:04
Phil #339, Sam Hoare speculated on that possibility, theorizing it helped Villa meet FFP regulations. Obviously it's not something that would be made public.

John #341, we may never know unless the injuries keep coming. With Rich and Townsend back, and Gordon emerging as a new star, the guy may just be a body on the bench.

Chris Corn
343 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:37:32
John Atkins, if you've not been as angry about a signing such as this for a long time : a short term loan who scored 10 goals last season. You must have a very long fuse. Because we have signed some utter shite for a whole lot more and we will be paying for it for the foreseeable future.

Don't know much about the lad because my football viewing is pretty much confined to Everton and I don't take much notice of the opposition.

Me? Gylfi Sigurdsson was my nadir. Pound for pound the worst signing in our history IMO. A few more are giving him a run for his money mind. Most of them in the Moshiri era.

Mike Gaynes
344 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:42:57
Chris #343, I knew we'd vastly overpaid for Siggy, but at least he wound up being a more or less consistent producer. The aforementioned Klaassen deal and the Iwobi deal both upset me a lot more. I just KNEW they were disasters.
Dave Evans
345 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:43:54
It's a 6 month loan. If he's crap, we don't play him and send him back.
If he comes good like Gray or Townsend, we can make a decision to buy or not.

Why the spit-fest and fuming?

Zack Yusof
346 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:48:03
John #326, if you’ve watched El Ghazi since 2019, you would have seen the two goals he’s put past us since then, including last season’s easy on the eye late winner at Goodison. Reading some of the knee jerk reactions masquerading as insightful posts on here, it becomes crystal clear why the club is so hamstrung by fear and negativity. The Everton fanbase, more toxic than Chernobyl. When it comes to putting our own players down, some even before they’ve kicked a ball for the club, we are Champions League quality.
Steve Brown
347 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:51:09
Perhaps he's been signed to give Colin Glassar someone to shout at other than Iwobi?

My guess is they expect Richarlison to leave in the summer and are road-testing this guy as cheap replacement.

John Atkins
348 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:55:43
Chris for the record 4 of his 10 goals last season were penalties so let’s not make the stats look that good eh ? You’ll give some of the reader false hope

Ok I hear a few try to make the point he’s on loan, that it’s low risk etc, fair point ….. however if we are looking to improve the squad and progress then we should not be signing players like him, for a position we are ALL in agreement is actually not necessary. Very worrying indeed

Andy Crooks
349 Posted 13/01/2022 at 23:58:28
John Atkins, from what you say it sounds like you've been watching him get splinters in his arse for three years. Do you watch Everton or Villa?
Honestly, of all the things to be fuming about at Everton, and I accept there are quite a few, getting a player on a cheap loan is an odd one to fret about.
Steve Brown
350 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:07:10
Is it just me or does El Ghazi look a lot older than 26 years old?
Don Alexander
351 Posted 13/01/2022 at 00:10:31
I've only read about twenty random posts on this loanee but if there's any truth at all in the assertion that Moshiri went ahead with it without support from Benitez I think it's even worse evidence of the ineptitude of Moshiri and his boardroom system in running anything like a professional Premier League club.

Derek Moore
352 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:14:23
Andy Crooks, great comment!

Villa fans think that they're improving their quality, and AEG has played very little of late anyway. It'd be perhaps analogous to a hypothetical Tom Davies transfer for our own fan base?

They don't think he's shit, they just think they'll need better moving forward.

Tony A, can you help me out here mate?

Rob Dolby
353 Posted 13/01/2022 at 00:14:42
El Ghazi looks like one of those icing on the cake types. Not one to take the game by the scruff of its neck and want to impact things. I just hope that he doesn't get in the way of Gordon's progress.

343 Chris totally disagree. Sigurdsson has done well for us in every season he has played, rarely gets injured, always contributed with goal and assists. Your hang up is we paid 45m for him. £45m is nothing compared to what the big boys pay.

Andrew Keatley
354 Posted 13/01/2022 at 00:14:51
The levels of rage on here about El Ghazi signing on loan are a little bewildering to me.

He’s a Dutch international, has played for Ajax and Lille, has experience of the Premier League, and is signing until the end of the season on very reasonable wages. There is not a huge amount of downside, even if he spends most of the next 5 and a half months on the bench. He improves our squad. He gives us better options if we pick up injuries, or face a condensed schedule. And, who knows, he might even click and become someone who we might want to become a part of our squad for next season. And then we’d be signing a 27-year-old first team player - who we actively want - for around £8 million. And if it doesn’t work, and we want rid of him, then off he goes.

Mike Gaynes
355 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:16:43
Andy, the bench splinters would mostly be new ones. Last season he played in 31 games and started their last 7, including the two against us.
Derek Moore
356 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:19:44
Fresh splinters are the worst splinters though Mike.

If the naysayers are to be believed Nicolas, there's a bench full of splinters in his arse already. Perhaps he could make a bench from them?

I'll fetch me coat.

Nicolas Piñon
357 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:19:59
Does someone know if he could make the bench on saturday?
David Pearl
358 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:37:42
Chris Corn do you even know how many goals and assists Siggy had... and maybe compare that with what we have got from Iwobi. Just ridiculous, as is any ill feeling about El Chappo having just signed on a short term loan. His winning goal against us a few months ago wasn't too shabby.
Mike Gaynes
359 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:47:48
Yes, Nicolas, he is eligible.
Si Cooper
360 Posted 14/01/2022 at 01:29:31
Doesn’t seem a terrible transfer all in all, but I am a bit nervous about what is trailing in its wake.
Hopefully it is just rolling the dice on another gifted player whose career has stalled and who needs a change to rediscover his mojo.
Stephen Vincent
361 Posted 14/01/2022 at 01:37:41
Mike # 331, Also from Vitalfootball,
'I thought £15m was high comedy'
'A 6'2" glove wearing fairy'
'An empty shirt'
'not a player to take us to the next level'

We can all pick the bits that suit us.

Annika Herbert
362 Posted 14/01/2022 at 03:38:54
David @ 358, I know how many goals and assists Siggy has for us. Not enough for an alleged attacking, creative midfielder.
Derek Knox
363 Posted 14/01/2022 at 05:01:33
It is almost comical reading some of the comments on AEG's loan, yes that's right a loan, which may or may not turn out to be good or bad. If it's good, we have the chance to make his move permanent for £8M, if it's bad we send him back.

Now the only down side I see to all this, is possibly limiting the chances of Dobbin and Simms, and possibly Gordon,and in the case of Dobbin, I would hate to see the kid leave us, as I think he is a star of the future. Mind you, neither is getting many chances as it is, but that is more down to Rafa than the pair's abilities.

However being the Devil's Advocate, does it also not make players try harder to be selected, rather than become complacent and believe they are a 'shoe in' if fit, breathing and have a pulse ?

The amount of dummies flying out of prams, with such ferocity, bile and vitriol have made these pacifier projectiles, like a War Zone outside Mothercare in Beirut !

Ajay Gopal
364 Posted 14/01/2022 at 05:38:46
Now that El Ghazi has signed for us, I just wish him the very best. Who knows, he could turn out to be the Jesse Lingard of this season - whose career completely turned around at West Ham? But, as I mentioned in my earlier post, I remain worried about the impact it would have on Gordon's and Dobbin's progression. If we manage to sell or loan Iwobi and loan out Dobbin to a Championship club after securing his signature, then I would in fact, be happy to have El Ghazi in our ranks.
Terry Farrell
365 Posted 14/01/2022 at 07:31:00
John Atkins all your posts are on the money. One of my best mates is a villa fan and from a villa family and yes they are all taking the piss. Headless chicken he calls him. The only positive villa comments I've seen refer to the promotion season from the championship. Even if we had no wide players he isn't what we need. If he was unknown the counter arguments are valid but he is known. Smith wasn't playing him and neither was slippy. He may do some good things in the short term but villa have let him go on loan in his prime after looking at him on a daily basis for 3 years. HELLO
Danny O’Neill
366 Posted 14/01/2022 at 07:57:08
Happy Friday people. I will glad when it's tomorrow and we can focus on the match ahead.

There are probably at least 10 Everton fans on this forum alone who could be texting their Villa mates taking the piss out of them for paying £25M on a 3rd choice France left back who hasn't played well for 18 months and they're not bothered he's gone.

Generalistic summary and their words, not mine. I rate him.

Wife supports Villa and the extended family are West Midlands based, so by default I loosely follow them.

I thought he was more regular under Dean Smith, so it's a manager thing in my opinion.

Inconsistent, frustrating, moments of magic, pops up with goals - often spectacular ones. We, well I, have bemoaned our wafer thin squad. Even if just for 6 months, he could offer an alternative in certain matches.

Let's see what he does for Everton, not what he didn't do for Villa.

Ian Bennett
367 Posted 14/01/2022 at 07:57:41
Derek 363 - the only downside is he's not a great player, and Everton have form in converting those mediocre players from loans into permanent deals. Brett Angel, Aaron Lennon, John Spencer for a start.

We can all hope he's the second messiah, and delivers more than Arteta and Pienaar who's careers turned around with us.

However, he's failed at Aston Villa. So why will it be different with us? Why do we continue to invest wages, loan fees and transfer fees into shite - and then wonder we've no money, no trophies, no team and no stability.

Why do we continue to buy from rival clubs players that haven't been good enough for Spurs, Arsenal etc - and when has it ever worked out? For every Howard or Neville - we can point to Stephen Hughes, Iwobi, Aaron Lennon, Samways, Simon Davies, Walcott that proves its a poor strategy.

For me, if you want to buy players from top clubs you look at a Lukuku or Milner deal. Good pros on Frees or young hungry players not really given a chance at an elite club. Or you look at hungry players looking for a step up to the big time from a lower equivalent league - Baines, Jagielka, Lescott, Cahill.

It's interesting that Moyes signed Bowen using his old formula, and even Klopp signing Jota has a shade about it.

Like much of this club, it isn't Nil Satis, it's that'll do. And those who like this signing, should remember their approval when they wonder why its such a mess of a club. A club on the up like a Leipzeg don't fritter money away on 'filler' signings.

Chris Corn
368 Posted 14/01/2022 at 07:59:01
I admit my hang up with Sigurdsson is the ridiculous price we paid for him. The fact he is seeing out his contract in the circumstances he is does not help matters either. Never a £45m footballer in a million years. Totally symptomatic of the position we find ourselves in now.

I won't bother comparing him to Iwobi because he's poor as well.

On the subject of fan opinion, you will find everyone is divided everywhere. Plenty praise El Ghazi for the memories he gave them. Target is now not very good cos Digne is coming in to some Others say those views are disrespectful.

Same with Digne. Trevor Sinclair, who has played at the highest level doesn't rate him. Plenty do. It is what it is.

I think this is all decent business for Everton. Certainly better than what's gone before it with the likes of players aforementioned in this post.

Tony Abrahams
369 Posted 14/01/2022 at 08:20:55
Some Villa fans sound like they’re turning into snobs I think Derek, but I’m not sure the throwaway comments on the internet usually represent how the whole fan base is feeling?

His goal helped get them out the championship, I read somewhere that he scored ten in the EPL last season, but Villa have signed quite a few players since the summer, and now the fans see Gerard bringing players like Coutinho into the club, then you’d expect this type of thing from a few?

The only worrying thing about this transfer is that the manager allegedly didn’t want him, so nothing is really changing at Everton, and although he’s building us a new ground, I’m not sure Moshiri is the type of owner Everton have ever needed.

If he wants to do a thorough professional job, he should stop meddling in the playing side of things and go and sort the other side of this old boys club out, but even though he’s spent a fortune, that just seems like a pipe-dream, something he’s just not prepared to do, and this just shows incredibly poor leadership.

Rob Halligan
370 Posted 14/01/2022 at 08:47:20
So a “Few Villa fans” are laughing and taking the piss because we’ve signed one of their players on loan for a few months. In six months time we can laugh and take the piss when El Ghazi returns to Villa, and query “What the fuck did they buy that useless lump for”? Villa will be the ones stuck with him, not us.

Also, as Danny says, we can laugh and take the piss out of them for “Actually Spending” £25M on a soon to be 29 year old, who has been shit for the past 18 months (words of people on here, not mine), who’s corner kicks, free kicks, defending and tackling have all been shit.

Who’s laughing and taking the piss now?

Sean Roe
371 Posted 14/01/2022 at 08:54:11
Michael @ 285

Let's hope it's that and not Iwobi, Blomqvist and Van der Meyde!

Terry Farrell
372 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:05:21
Rob my villa fans like Everton because of me just as I like villa because of them. They want us to do well and are not laughing out of nastiness but out of sympathy at how stupid we are to take him off their hands. I also don't think many blues think digne is a duffer and he will be a decent purchase for them.
James Newcombe
373 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:08:29
Re: Gylfi, it wasn’t even the fact it was such a high fee - it was £40-45m plus wages, for a player in or even (slightly) past his prime years; who would be unlikely to ever fetch much of a fee for us in the future. We could have gotten away with that strategy once or twice, but we kept doing it!
Bill Gienapp
374 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:10:18
John Atkins - Appreciate the passion, but as others have said - it's just a loan. No need to give yourself a coronary over it. If he's as terrible as you say, he won't end up playing much, will quietly depart the club at the end of the season, and we can all shrug and say "Well *that* was pretty pointless."

Agree that - big picture - we should be setting our sights higher, but the squad's in a state of transition. If we bring in someone in the short term who can chip in a few goals and maybe more, I can live with that.

Rob Halligan
375 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:16:58
Terry, I’ve got nothing whatsoever against Villa. I’ve got cousins who have lived in Birmingham for most of their lives and who support Villa, so certainly I feel no animosity towards them. Also agree with you regarding Digne. He’s been a great player for us, and sorry to see him go, but can he re-produce the form he showed when at his best for us? Time will tell.
Pat Kelly
376 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:25:24
King, Rondon, El Ghazi. Things are looking up we're attracting the players we never thought we would.
Mick O'Malley
377 Posted 14/01/2022 at 09:39:16
I’m happy with El Ghazi coming he can add a few goals, and anything that weakens Benitez’s power is ok with me to, if you don’t like it Benitez you can always leave!
Chris Corn
378 Posted 14/01/2022 at 10:22:47
Tony 369, interesting comments re snobs. IMO there are direct parallels with Villa and us.

Both have good histories. They have won more than us including a European Cup, when it was for champions only. Traditional stadium. Fans expectations based on historical achievements.

They've also had major ownership and divisive managerial appointments (Mcleish/Bruce) issues over the years resulting in major fan unrest until relatively recently.

Even Keith Wyness called their ownership out when CEO and he was universally reviled by blues when he was CEO, as another Kenwright enabler.

You could also argue that their current recruitment strategy is not a million miles away from ours. Bailey has hardly played, Ings hasn't set the world alight, Coutinho underwhelmed at big Euro clubs, Digne with wages will not be a saleable asset (unless a CL club flutters their lashes and he will probably be off in a flash) etc, etc.

Obviously they have a young manager who may have the juice to progress them. However they still find themselves out of both cup competitions.

Crucially, they are only a couple of places and three points (game in hand) ahead of us.

Football is a fickle mistress and with a couple of wins we could quite easily be above them yet they are a progressive club (?)

Interesting times. IMO, if it was not for Benitez being in charge, I would suggest that would be the view of the majority.

I also believe our issues lie right at the top with Moshiri/Usmanov combination. Sadly without that we are utterly screwed.

Denis Richardson
379 Posted 14/01/2022 at 10:52:25
Happy with this move. Not a world beater but given our injury crisis this season and covid it’s a no brainer on loan.

He works hard, gets the odd goal and has prem experience. Really good temporary addition to the squad who’ll be motivated to play well to get a permanent move away in the summer.

Can’t understand the negativity given it’s only a loan.

Justin Doone
380 Posted 14/01/2022 at 11:10:00
Moshiri knows two thing about football, one that it's a massive financial drain and two, he knows nothing else about football.

I can not believe Moshiri has been scouting this player or is doing Villa a favour. He's not stupid.

El Ghazi may not be Rafas number 1 target or in his top 10, but I'm sure he's agreed to it.

We needed money back for the outlay on 2 full backs. Sell Digne, Job done.

We needed more cheap attacking options because without them, we may struggle, injuries, covid etc. Tick.

Simms and Dobbin may play their part but both are a long way from being reliable first team selections. Neither is better than El Ghazi.

I'm expecting further loans away. Dobbin won't sign a contract, so until he does why include him in any future plans beyond this season.

I'm still hopefull of bringing in a quality midfielder, maybe also on loan. It may end up being Longstaff. Whilst not who I wish, he's better than other alternatives and presumably fits into Rafas way of playing.

That's the reality we are in.

Ray Smith
381 Posted 14/01/2022 at 12:42:18
Justin 380

What’s the state of play/your knowledge re Dobbin not signing a contract?

Anyone else got info re Dobbin?

Surely we can’t let another potential academy product leave without a fight, only to come back and haunt us?

Jerome Shields
382 Posted 14/01/2022 at 12:43:52
Since is scored 10 goals last season he is worth a punt on loan. That could be Rafa's reasoning. After all we have few player's like that.
Brendan Fox
383 Posted 14/01/2022 at 12:56:29
As a loan option with a bit of pace, height (6'2") and goalscoring ability El Ghazi will provide an option up front be it as a starter or more likely as an impact player off the bench so I don't see what the downsides are to this short term loan.
Martin Reppion
384 Posted 14/01/2022 at 13:32:04
Danny #281.
A very good post.
You could add that across the park they signed a player who Chelsea had let go after 13 games and 2 goals. He wasn't good enough for them but seems to be forging a decent reputation for himself now.
The point is that the way a team plays may suit one player more than another. The personnel at one club may work better for him than at another. It might not of course. But we shouldn't write anyone off before they arrive.
We don't always get £60k full backs who become club legends. Just as not all multi million pound signings turn out to be a waste of money. Right shaped peg in the right shaped hole and something may click.
Yes, we won't be happy until we sort out the number 10 player we need, get cover up front more reliable than Rondon and shore up the centre of defence either by getting the ones we have fit or bringing in new blood.
But so far this window we've made three good signings, reduced the wage bill and broken even.
Good work so far.
Paul Richardson
385 Posted 14/01/2022 at 17:07:05
The problem Everton has is conceding goals. We have the firepower to score one or two goals every game, in my opinion, with our best people out there, but I cannot see us having a run of (say) five games without letting in a goal, even though that's supposed to be Benitez's strength.

Overall, I think the 'realistic' approach Benitez has taken makes sense...low-cost recruits who have a chance and could come good at a club like ours that embrace triers...which this new guy could be.

The problem, for now, is he's going to find the one (or maybe two?) dominant centre halves we need in this window. Probably not. And, perhaps more worrying, how will the two new full backs bed-in?

Geoff Williams
386 Posted 14/01/2022 at 17:58:00
Could anyone tell me if Moshiri has actually put money into the club pr has all the spending so far is simply debt incurred by the club?
Jack Convery
387 Posted 14/01/2022 at 18:03:44
No wonder our scouting system is crap, if we are relying on Howard Carter.
Mike Gaynes
388 Posted 14/01/2022 at 18:10:35
Stephen #361, I posted a range of comments. I did deliberately choose to omit a particularly repellent one.

Which you posted.

Andrew Ellams
389 Posted 14/01/2022 at 18:25:22
Looks like David Neres has gone to Shaktar Donetsk for €12m plus add ons
Bobby Mallon
390 Posted 14/01/2022 at 18:57:00
Tony 369 that sentence you wrote should be on a banner at the ground just add his name brilliant.

If moshiri wants to do a thorough professional job, he should stop meddling in the playing side of things and go and sort the other side of this old boys club out.

Derek Knox
391 Posted 14/01/2022 at 19:18:35
Jack @387, Tut, Tut ! With Howard Carter, surely we should have 'unearthed more Egyptians' ! :-)
Derek Moore
392 Posted 14/01/2022 at 23:34:15
Geoff Williams, Moshiri has converted debt into equity so, yes he has sunk a great deal of his money into the club.
Derek Thomas
393 Posted 14/01/2022 at 00:05:57
The big worry...on past form, is El Ghazi has a decent loan period, signs for a mega wage deal, then goes seriously sicknote and / or average.
Mike Gaynes
394 Posted 15/01/2022 at 00:15:32
DT, I'm pretty sure we can't afford to sign anybody on a mega-wage deal.
Matthew Williams
395 Posted 15/01/2022 at 01:05:16
If was a half decent player then why isn't he representing his country at the moment down in Cameroon at the Afcon?.

Not the type of player we need at present,we need a standout midfielder who creates and can bag us a few goals too... sigh

Andrew Keatley
396 Posted 15/01/2022 at 01:45:35
Matthew (395) - Because he is Dutch and has got 2 international caps. Sigh…
Mike Gaynes
397 Posted 15/01/2022 at 02:08:53
Phil Wood
398 Posted 15/01/2022 at 02:27:30
I do feel uncomfortable that he has been cast off from Villa.
Do we really need this type of player?
Strange signing with the players we already have.
Of course I hope he's a revelation but will wait with baited breath.
Paul Hewitt
399 Posted 15/01/2022 at 05:44:08
Geoff@386. Moshiri has got this club into huge debt. Trust us to get the world's worst accountant.
Darren Hind
400 Posted 15/01/2022 at 06:35:56
Moshiri got us into debt ? So Billy Boy is innocent ?.

I take it all back

Rob Halligan
401 Posted 15/01/2022 at 07:04:53
Darren, if only you knew what you're dealing with!!
Paul Hewitt
402 Posted 15/01/2022 at 09:10:48
Another Bill bashers. Don't you just luv um.
Danny Baily
403 Posted 15/01/2022 at 11:19:30
Just read Rafa's comments, it's clear that he didn't want this player. I expect we won't see much of him. Just part of the deal to get Digne out the door.
Dale Rose
404 Posted 15/01/2022 at 13:53:48
I'm just trying to think of who else in terms of being useless we brought in, then it came to mind Gray and Townshend. Let's get behind this lad, and see how he goes. It's been a hard few months but things will come good.
Justin Doone
405 Posted 16/01/2022 at 15:03:15
I know nothing else in Dobbin but it indicates he wants to play more football and his agent wants a better financial package.

I'm all for rewarding those who deserve it but..?

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