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Kean hints at Everton departure with cryptic Instagram post

The Italian has removed all photographs pertaining to his two years with the Blues and posted an image to his Story saying "Back Soon" with a "fingers crossed" emoji.
It is unclear if Kean was merely suggesting a refresh of his Instagram account and that he would be back on the social media platform soon, posting a nod about Saturday's match against Southampton, or whether he will be returning to either Paris Saint-Germain, Juventus or, simply Italy.
The deposed Ligue 1 champions have reportedly only offered to take him on loan again, however, something to which Everton won't agree, and with Lionel Messi officially announced as a new PSG player today, it makes Kean's return to Paris all the more unlikely.
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2 Posted 10/08/2021 at 23:22:24
3 Posted 10/08/2021 at 23:27:43
4 Posted 11/08/2021 at 00:34:37
That aside, we're well into August. If any club was in for Kean seriously, we'd have read of it. As it stands, there's not even enough smoke to ignite kindling.
He's a young, athletic talent contracted to Everton Football Club. He's wants gone next Summer, young Moise is in the perfect position to ignite some fires. The 2020-2021 season playing for Everton.
5 Posted 11/08/2021 at 02:47:52
6 Posted 11/08/2021 at 04:17:00
He spent the game offside, rolling around, or simply not presenting any kind of option. One of the laziest, uninterested, untalented, uneducated performances I've ever seen. Maturity, acclimatisation or development doesn't overcome those kind of gaping deficiencies.
Obviously I'm not too disappointed if he goes. Just get some money in and be done with him.
7 Posted 11/08/2021 at 06:40:43
We've already got a loan fee for last season from PSG and if he goes for £30m+ before the deadline this month, the transfer will still have been a success even if he was ill-suited to our club and produced very little for us.
And if I had to bet who pushed for Iwobi, my money would be on Moshiri.
8 Posted 11/08/2021 at 07:20:05
Hope it's true and we spend the money well.
God knows we need more quality.
9 Posted 11/08/2021 at 07:23:52
Cant see PSG or Juventus buying him now; best option may be that Inter Milan give us £30m of the Lukaku/Hakimi money and we get Rondon who is better suited temperamentally to the role of backup striker.
10 Posted 11/08/2021 at 07:25:42
11 Posted 11/08/2021 at 07:34:32
Appreciating all squads need balance, but Rondons like going back to the days of Ginola and Gazza (but with half the talent and less legs). Absolutely ridiculous. Why not go the whole hog and call for Wimbledon style long ball, throwing big Yerry up top as a 3rd false 9?
We need to be the team that gives youth a chance. The Borrusia Dortmund of the premier league. If its not Kean, then it needs to be a Dobbin, a Simms, or a young lad from the lower league wholl smile every day in training, graft their bollocks off, and be grateful for the platform we give them.
Anything else is half arsed.
12 Posted 11/08/2021 at 07:51:47
Id love to see the likes of Simms, Dobbin and Broadhead given time but Im not sure Benitez thinks they are quite up to the standard yet.
13 Posted 11/08/2021 at 08:01:38
The problem with Rondon is 1) the message it sends once again (weve given up and back to ‘plucky little Everton) and 2) it gives the FSW that ongoing (and poor) excuse you use “the kids arent ready”…….may be true, but only one way to get ready, and thats to be given games.
All of which stops any promising youth ever wanting to come here.
Rondon vs Dobbin is 10th vs 12th in league now, and 14th vs 6th in two years.
14 Posted 11/08/2021 at 08:19:28
15 Posted 11/08/2021 at 08:19:47
During the course of a long season, I expect there's room for Rondon and a bit part youngster. Rondon is a decent pro.
Simms is probably better placed developing at Blackpool in the Championship if he gets over injury in time. Dobbin is also getting over injury so would be well placed for the u23s. If he does well then he can provide an option from the bench now and again.
Broadhead is ok, but I wouldn't expect him in the first team much. Ten minutes here and there to harass and maybe pinch a goal.
So totally agree with the sentiment Gary but don't think we've quite got the raw materials yet to do a Dortmund.
16 Posted 11/08/2021 at 08:31:08
Mate, give YOUR head a wobble! Sam clearly says that Gazza had “never looked after himself”!
Its ok Gary, we all make a dick of ourselves from time to time.😁
17 Posted 11/08/2021 at 08:42:09
Wheres all this Rondon talk coming from? It does reek of the Moyes era but thats where you end up when to recruit like we have and have no gate receipts for a year.
If hes free, get him in. Richarlison will have to rest that pout at some stage.
18 Posted 11/08/2021 at 09:48:15
19 Posted 11/08/2021 at 10:30:02
20 Posted 11/08/2021 at 10:30:31
I wonder if this is on the PSG fan site.
21 Posted 11/08/2021 at 10:45:06
22 Posted 11/08/2021 at 10:46:18
23 Posted 11/08/2021 at 10:50:05
We wont have to alter our playing style to fit him in when necessary. He is physical, gets on the end of crosses, get goals and makes a nuisance of himself in the 18 yard box. A back up that keeps us strong in times of injuries or a tight game schedule.
He would cost nothing and allows whatever transfer money we have to be spent strengthening elsewhere and we all want that to happen, especially if we can sign first team additions in the similar in quality to that of linked players like Koulibaily, Zakaria, Dumfries. In that context signing Rondon as purely as back up to DCL makes good sense strategically.
Sometimes, especially with financial restrictions, squad strengthening has to be functional rather than glamorous. Financially , on back up players , we have to be astute. I too want to see our very best young boys given the chance and hopefully they will get opportunities anyway, probably initially from the bench to prove and hopefully establish themselves.
24 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:13:04
If we get him and, say, Dumfries then it would look like a very successful window in the weird circumstances.
And realistically, even if we'd have got the likes of Aarons, Bailey and Toney (at a cost of circa £100m), we'd still look well short of a top 4 spot. It would just have increased our chances of finishing 6th as opposed to 8th. Even with money this squad will take longer than one window to sort out.
25 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:15:35
I expect a few twists and turns yet before the transfer window closes. If we can get one or two out, we may well be able to get one of two in.
I dont think wed miss Kean if he left, based on what he has done in his time at Everton. I thought he might come back to us with the bit between his teeth after his spell at PSG, but he was unbelievably poor in the game against Millionarios, in my opinion. Hopefully hell go, and we will bring in Dumfries and one other to strengthen our first team.
26 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:38:23
Meanwhile a RB (not looking like Dumfries sadly) and a RW remain the priorites this summer; though i'd also like a ball playing CM if Delph/Gomes/Rodriguez receive offers.
27 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:40:06
With Kean we paid £30M and got a 'real value £10M...and I maybe over valuing him...Misfit, he maybe a misfit with potential, but for us in the here and now he's a misfit.
Kean is all 'over promise and under perform'
Rondon, Grey and Townsend (and maybe a few others as we go) are deffo 'under promise' hopefully they will 'over perform' - which nobody could ever accuse Kean of up to now...at least for us.
28 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:50:49
29 Posted 11/08/2021 at 12:48:30
This a 21 year old, and he needs a damn good telling off and lecture about professional responsibility and what that means in terms of his endeavours on the pitch and silence off it.
Completely fed up with players who are earning more than I will in a lifetime treating something I love - EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB - with derision.
30 Posted 11/08/2021 at 12:53:47
31 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:05:56
32 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:13:29
33 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:16:57
If Inter or PSG really want him they will pay the $$$$. Let's not stuff about here. use him or lose him ($$$$). I'm on the verge of getting angry with all this BS.
34 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:23:57
The same cannot be said of Delph, Gomes, Sigurdsson, Allan, Doucoure, Tosun etc; which may explain in part why we are struggling with FFP this summer.
Young and (crucially) well scouted players with a good reputation tend to retain (or even increase their value) unless things have gone disastrously wrong.
A counter-example to this may be Iwobi. But i'd say we drastically overpaid for him. He should have cost nearer £20m and if it weren't a pandemic market we would, I reckon, still be able to shift him for around £15m.
35 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:32:04
36 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:41:31
37 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:41:52
Where we should be, had it not been for idiots spending like the proverbials drinking in a brewery. Interview with Rodgers on Sky Sports website today. Interesting that he also mentions that quite a few signings he doesn't even see or know about beforehand. Gives a profile to the recruitment guy and hey ho!!!
Sound familiar? So why could/can we not manage that? The money we have spent should have set us up for years, if spent wisely. 'A fool and his' comes to mind!
I posted this on the season preview thread. Probably more relevant on this one.
38 Posted 11/08/2021 at 13:59:56
I reckon his downward spiral is already underway, and that his market value will never be higher than it is right now.
39 Posted 11/08/2021 at 14:10:38
On the positive side, Richarlison will run amok until his legs go a bit and then Dobbin will enter the fray with Onyango and the Premier League won't know what's hit it. Gotta believe that. Keeps me going.
40 Posted 11/08/2021 at 14:55:13
A second-string striker would be useful in the squad, but why get rid of a guy who had gone through the settling-in period if we're just going to gamble on another?
Both still more use than Kean though. We lose nothing by selling him.
41 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:04:55
From the scouting report I've read he has pace, physicality, ability to get crosses in. He is 24 so ready to take the next step up if he's good enough.
Sounds to me like he will be one of a few on a Plan B list if sadly we don't get Dumfries. He's available for 3m as he's entering the last year on his contract. It sounds like a gamble so I hope he has been scouted well, but at least it's not a £27M gamble!
Whatever happens, his surname will inspire Toffeweb's intrepid pun-ters.
42 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:26:58
More importantly is how we reinvest it. Maybe a few Loan to buy options.
43 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:28:40
I hope we are able to offload him for 35M+ but we'll see.
44 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:34:42
Tell PSG he can go for 25m and let's have shut of the bench warming tart
45 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:35:58
Now don't laugh, as a plan b or c or d..
If James and Digne can play long accurate ball's up to him it cuts out our slow midfield.
A quick chest off (as headers are deemed a health risk) and Dom and Rich are left with some shooting practice. Easy.
46 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:42:59
A quick assessment of their value to the club in its fully contingent form or some other chat up to the media is an easy move without a lot of downside given their position. Nothing too vicious, just a reminder of who holds the cards here. If they continue to act disgruntled rather than show up and prove their worth then give them the ultimatum and wave them around to other teams like a dead geranium.
47 Posted 11/08/2021 at 17:43:07
We've got ourselves a backup keeper, a backup/possible starter winger and a probable starter in attacking midfield with an outlay of under £2m.
We now appear to be in the mix for Buta, a backup/soon to be starter at right back taking the total to around £5m.
I believe that our "major" singing/s are lined up but will only happen when we sell.
I think Kean will go and free up the money for either Nunes or Longstaff (or both) with maybe some to spare.
Any further sale I'd see going towards a backup striker.
So, theoretically, we could have five or even six new faces with an outlay (sales permitting) of under £10m.
Now THAT is good business sense and good common sense if it comes off.
I'm going to withhold the sharpening of my pitchfork 'til the window has "slammed shut" to use Sky's really annoying soundbite.
48 Posted 11/08/2021 at 18:10:53
A timely reminder that like in any market, you can hunt out good value and reduce (but not eliminate) risk. We did that for many years without money, we unfortunately got carried away and careless once we got money.
This season, though potentially disappointing on the pitch, could be a really good platform for building the club back up into something much better.
49 Posted 11/08/2021 at 18:23:49
With only 1.5 million spent they are left with a squad that for the most part is the same as last season which really blew it.
We can only hope that Rafa, can do something or that some players come good and repay some of the big wages they are on. None appear to be leaving and no other clubs seem to be showing any interest in what we have. Speaks volumes I think.
If a new striker is to be added then it will probably only depend if they offload Kean along with the injured Tosun.
I cannot see DCL and Richie giving anything more than last season and what has been coming as midfield support is quite poor too although a fully fit Gbamin may improve the situation.
50 Posted 11/08/2021 at 19:27:40
51 Posted 11/08/2021 at 19:41:34
52 Posted 11/08/2021 at 19:41:34
53 Posted 11/08/2021 at 21:10:37
54 Posted 11/08/2021 at 22:28:11
55 Posted 11/08/2021 at 22:55:53
56 Posted 11/08/2021 at 23:03:37
57 Posted 12/08/2021 at 01:26:18
58 Posted 12/08/2021 at 07:59:53
I thought Iowbi was more a ploy of Brand's to scupper the Zaha Saga and get back in control of Transfers. He was clearly not in control of Transfers prior to that. Brand 's declared objective at the beginning of that Summer was Financial probity, which looked as if it was going to be shattered. In hindsight clearly FFS rules where not a consideration at that time. Arsenal are laughing ever since.
59 Posted 12/08/2021 at 09:31:35
I hope the club can sell him for the money paid at least and a sensible sell-on clause. If not, it's time to make a stand and tell him and his advisors his next 3 years with Everton will be a fucking nightmare.
We should be in control of this – not him.
60 Posted 12/08/2021 at 09:31:37
I can't understand why people are criticising Brands for this transfer. He picked up a sought-after, 19-year-old full international and we were all excited having seen his YouTube highlights. If we hadn't bought him then, but had bought him this summer on the back of his season at PSG, we would have been all excited at £25M.
I'm not sure anyone was to know how immature he was. When I first saw him play for us, it looked to me like he was having panic attacks. He was out of breath within minutes of coming on, looked completely lost. Clearly a mental issue there and perhaps he didn't want to come to Everton at all but his agent forced him into it as he fancied making a few million quid.
If we make a profit, then the deal was worth it.
61 Posted 12/08/2021 at 10:51:17
I would think DOF ( Brands ) responsibility is to make sure the club are investing their money into the right "characters" and as I have always said from day one - Juventus are clearly no mugs and let "one of the best young prospects" in the world leave for 27 million.
I think Mancini not entertaining the idea of selecting him for his world cup squad despite his PSG goals tells us all a lot.
If the likes of Danny Ings was playing with PSG he would be scoring 20 + in the French league.
62 Posted 12/08/2021 at 11:43:18
Should have turned the comments off right there.
63 Posted 12/08/2021 at 12:21:03
I think Ings would score goals in the French league, no doubt, but they are different types of players.
If we make a profit then it has been worth it. Brands coming in for lots of criticism but I genuinely think the older signings have all been Moshiri, Ancelotti, or Benitez signings, not Brands's.
Iwobi is the prime example over trust your eyes over stats. When we signed him, I remember being told and seeing all these stats about how productive and attacking he was given he was mainly a sub and that it was a smart move. Be interesting to know if he was a Brands signing or not, I guess we will never know. 2 lads in the u18s are Brands signings. 1 a Slovakia goalie who has been called up to the full international team and the other some Swedish wonder kid apparently.
I think the bloke knows his stuff, he is just hamstrung by the managers and owner wanting certain players.
At PSV he was pretty autonomous.
64 Posted 12/08/2021 at 12:51:49
He's not as bad as is often made out - routinely singled out despite equally crap performances or much worse by his teamates.
However, I think this is partly down to the frustration of what we should have had - being one of the three pieces to complete a very good side along with Gbamin and Zouma.
We needed a fast right winger, ideally left footed. And aside from Zaha names like Malcom, Lozano, Bailey and Neres were mooted at the time.
Weirdly we still (if I've got my dates right) had Vlasic at the club too, albeit he'd reached the end of his first loan in Moscow. Vlasic is a better player than Iwobi and looked it then, not just now. I guess he'd been so mishandled at Everton he was understandably desperate to leave.
As Sam said on another thread, we paid at least £10m too much for Iwobi - and this for the wrong type of player.
Whether it was Brands, Silva or someone else it was a really weird signing.
I'm all for validating transfer targets by reference to stats. In fact this is a vital part of recruitment (many players flatter to deceive with no end product) but something went very obviously awry with Iwobi.
65 Posted 12/08/2021 at 12:54:35
Should never have come here, should never have got through any interview before signing because the lad seems like a bit of a knob.
There's 21-year-old players with a good head on their shoulders but this fella just seems like a stroppy little bitch.
We need to see the back of him and not make any more high-risk signings for big money again.
66 Posted 12/08/2021 at 13:47:37
" 𝘄𝗲 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗲𝘅𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗧𝘂𝗯𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀" (Kean)
I have to disagree his show reel revealed a big athlete benefiting from a domineering team scoring against dreadful defenders over a short period of time and said as much at the time.
Hoped he might go on to emulate Rom or Lineker, neither of whom can play football, but are effective - it just didn't happen. But the main point is if I (and others) could see his limitations why didn't Brands?
67 Posted 12/08/2021 at 15:18:35
68 Posted 12/08/2021 at 15:51:24
69 Posted 12/08/2021 at 16:33:11
Anyway, are you sure you watched the right YouTube clips? He wasn't big or domineering. Quick, skillful yes. Amazed though that you hoped he would go on to emulate Lukaku or Lineker, neither of whom played similarly or in the same position as Kean at Juventus nor in the clips you supposedly watched.
He looked a completely different player for Juventus than he did for us and again last year at PSG. That happens sometimes I'm afraid, you never know how anyone is going to react to a new country. Sink or swim and he sank. Obviously wasn't prepared to dog in and fight to prove himself.
70 Posted 12/08/2021 at 16:52:07
71 Posted 12/08/2021 at 17:47:11
He then got hounded out of Italy by racists, hung out to dry by his captain Bonucci and turned up at a club that was supposed to look after him.
He was 18.
The wheels very quickly came off our season, Silva was sacked, DCL improved unexpectedly beyond all recognition and Kean had no place in the first XI.
He had some good games, some bad. He also had 3 managers in one season.
Almost no-one played well that season.
The following season he was just finding his feet a bit, relaxing in front of goal but clearly wanted out.
He scored goals for PSG against decent opposition including the Champions League. Tuchel trusted him and Tuchel is no mug.
Lots of clubs around Europe want him now but the market has been hit by covid. He remains a highly coveted player and one of the few who would interest a champions league side.
His career could go in a few directions but Everton has been a disaster for him. We've provided a terrible home to a top young talent.
72 Posted 12/08/2021 at 18:47:26
"Obviously wasn't prepared to dog in and fight to prove himself."
This sums him up perfectly, no character and for me Brands judgement has to be scrutinised.
I understand all the changes in moving to another country for someone so young and all. I moved to New York when I was 19 and then on to San Francisco for a few years. I had a few contacts over there but that was it. I had to do some shitty jobs to pay my way, I just got on with it like lots of us do.
Kean is getting paid 50 grand a week ! - these young fellas don't know how lucky they are.
He's probably sulking because of Messi signing at PSG.
Regards Ings, yes of course different players but you get my point.
I never thought that Ferguson was right to sub him off after whatever it was at Old Trafford, but having spoken to people who know a few heads at the club, Kean was told to do a specific job by Ferguson and he didn't listen and Ferguson just blew his top and hauled him off.
Tough lesson in front of millions of tv viewers that perhaps made Keans mind up that Everton was just not the place for him.
Ferguson just doesn't like him I think.
I believe this action really
73 Posted 13/08/2021 at 01:55:11
74 Posted 13/08/2021 at 03:13:02
So what happens now? Wed probably accept £35 million for him; a 21-year-old Italian international who scored around 20 goals for PSG last season. On paper that sounds wrong - we should be asking for double that - but Kean on paper and Kean in reality are two very different things… which explains why we seem to have had no interest beyond clubs looking to maybe take him on loan. Why is that? Some may cite Covid or FFP but transfers are happening, and if a big club want a player then they are prepared to spend the money.
Kean has had five years at the top of the professional game, yet I wonder if anybody has been able to really work him out. He scored goals for Juventus, but they let him go. He scored goals for Italy, yet Mancini didnt want him for the Euros. He scored goals for PSG yet they arent busting a gut to retain him. Could it be that when push comes to shove his all-round game is still so incredibly raw that he looks out of place in a top team everywhere except in the six-yard box?
75 Posted 13/08/2021 at 13:26:29
I expect most of the footballing world views us as something of a shambles and too lowly of stature for this class of player.
That's not particularly me judging him as exceptional (as we both acknowledge he's raw) - more just voicing how he's generally viewed without the Blue tinted spectacles.
As for who wants him, it's clear that both Milan clubs and Juve would dearly like to take him if they had the money. Inter now do, and the fact that he's strongly being considered as a Lukaku replacement speaks volumes. There are only a few in that category.
As for PSG, they obviously did want him too but got a once in a lifetime opportunity to sign possibly the greatest player who ever lived instead. They don't now have the financial wriggle room.
So big clubs would happily spend the money - they just can't, because covid has made them sellers not buyers. Without that he'd be going to a champions league club for about the same sort of fee Osimhen commanded when he moved from Lille to Napoli (about £60m) when the market was more normal.
76 Posted 13/08/2021 at 19:12:13
77 Posted 15/08/2021 at 20:01:19
Im not as interested in other peoples reports about players as you are and Im certainly not one for parroting other peoples opinions. My opinion about Kean is that he comes alive in the six-yard box and seems to possess that ability to make good runs that lose defenders and attract the ball - but from what I have seen of him I suspect that beyond that he is at best raw and at worst a player whose inability to do the basics well will mean his reputation will drop drastically within a year or two, and will ultimately be a player who failed to capitalise on the great opportunities that he had as a young player. So - “this class of player” - you obviously see as elite, and I see as not good enough to play for Everton FC.
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1 Posted 10/08/2021 at 23:13:01
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