Everton vs Arsenal classified as 'high risk' fixture

This must be the scummiest board in world football. Not only have they driven us into the ground but they've embarrassed and humiliated us. We must be rid of them by hook or by crook.

Actually, maybe NSNOW should make that clear. If you're there, we'll protest loudly. We'll declare the game high risk so you don't have to.

I wonder how many businesses would continue to employ a board where their customers/clients (we sometimes forget that) actually protest against them?

My company goes into a tizz if we get average feedback from a client.

https://twitter.com/ianwright0/status/1615340602907828225?s=46&t=BL6FbC8ErfBzmc4modsGSg

The air does need clearing though, and that's easier said than done. Everybody needs to cool down, and the clubs plan seems to be to ride this out.

The only thing that will retrieve the situation? Results. If we were winning we'd be regarded as a well run club (new stadium, record sponsor deals etc.). Results are the issue.

Winning and survival will be able to plaster over the cracks for a few months I suppose. But Everton's decline, under this board, is unstoppable. Without money, direction and a minimum amount of competence next season will be exactly the same, new stadium or no new stadium. This lot need to go.

For a club of our standards, we have never been a well run under Bill Kenwright, although results obviously helped to push his narrative, that plucky little Everton, were punching well above their weight, and alls that was needed was investment.

Investment came, results got worse, but we all know this…. “So let's somehow come together like we did last season, because Everton football club, really need to go and start winning some football matches”. “NOW.”

I still can't believe nobody is pushing for a meeting between some intelligent, passionate, die-hard supporters, and the players and the manager though. It might sound strange to some, but the players really need the fans, and the fans need to explain our frustrations, and hopefully make these players see, that Everton, is more than just a football club, to thousands of loyal and very passionate supporters.

Quite frankly, this is typical of how this Club has been managed for years, absolute avoidance of accountability at all levels, and the use of individual scapegoats to escape collective responsibility, the fanbase being treated with utter contempt.

As for Barrett-Baxendale, she didn't escalate it to a criminal matter because it would result in her making a statement which would be investigated and could be found to be false. A Chief Executive Officer of the Club avoiding personnel responsibility, or covering up for someone else in the Club.

As for the “high risk” Everton v Arsenal game, the Club has taken this action itself and informed the Police they have done so. Again, with no evidence – just allegations or an attempt to spin.

This is another attempt at avoidance and spin against the fanbase. A complete attempted self preservation by the Board and total contempt for the fanbase and the Club's reputation.

Oh sorry, I thought it was about the actual game itself

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Are we expected to believe a physical assault on our CEO wouldn't be dealt with in a similarly efficient manner? It's simply too far fetched.

Maybe Graeme Sharp could turn up at the Arsenal game and share a thermos with Thelwell. Show this up for the BS it is.

We need to keep our pressure on the board and not on the players. We, the fans, let ourselves down with that one. Let's not score any more own-goals and I'm not talking about Coady.

And to be clear and transparent I don't mean physical pressure. Not another headlockgate

Creates the situation.
Stokes the flames by releasing bare faced lies about Phantom assault.
Tries to bury bare faced lies.
Escalates the situation for "everyones" safety
Continues to preside over a complete shit show.
Refuses to go even though he knows his departure would stop protest in a heartbeat.

Drags the name of the club's fans through the mud (again) by stage managing big headlines when an enhanced security could easily be arranged discretely.

Fans should be ashamed of themselves. What a way to treat the greatest Evertonian.

Everton (the football club) are inflaming the situation and further isolating themselves with supporters.

Leadership is about gauging, judging and managing a situation to return it to normal as soon as possible.

I've had bricks thrown at me in Crossmaglen and West Belfast by irate locals who didn't want us to be there. Sangin, Helmand Province wasn't a particularly welcoming place.

But we were there, and even though our presence wasn't wanted, we showed courage and helped the communities to try to improve their situation. Some even swayed and leaned to us for help.

But my point and relation to my analogy. The club needs to face the music and take the flak. They have created the situation, so confront it and do something about it. Don't hide from it, which is what they appear to be doing.

I said it would be a bit dramatic.

Fans protesting is allowed especially after a very important match at which the team was defeated. Happens all the time and since football began. This is heightened by an absence of necessary response by the Club and now by the spin of protest by the Club against the fans in a attempt to avoid responsibility and accountability for their incompetent management, paraphrasing Ian Wright.

It is important to see it as it is. The parties came into football knowing about protest. They are paid huge amounts of money to perform and take criticism from supporters in their thousands, both attending and via the Media. They cannot continue to avoid personnel scrutiny and accountability, be asked questions and respond, as they are doing.

There are nearly 3 weeks before the Arsenal match takes place, surely enough time to find out who and where these 'threats' are coming from?

As the season progresses, the games will become more and more important and the normal tensions associated with that will increase, therefore, it could be argued every last remaining fixture will be 'high risk'.

I can't be sure, but maybe the players last Saturday were affected by the news that the safety of board members was at risk, and all of this stoking up of security and specifying the next home fixture as 'high-risk' will also adversely affect the players at least psychologically, remember that many of those players will have family members in attendance.

Everton board find new ways to undermine the football side of the club shocker!

The analogy to describe the difference between love and hate is very simple. If you love someone, you would push them out of the way of a moving bus, even though this meant you was going to get hit yourself.

If you hate someone, and also have no respect for them, then instead of pushing them out of the way, then a lot of people would actually throw that person, under the moving bus, and this is what Everton Football Club, did to its very loyal supporters, on Saturday.

They've carried it on, and this was possibly brought on, by the pressure they have created through their own disgraceful actions, because there genuinely shouldn't have been no mention of the Arsenal fixture, until the West Ham game, was out of the way.

The board now need to be treated with the disdain they deserve, but Everton need to start winning games, so we need to start totally ignoring these self-preserving nepotistic individuals, because it's clear they have never had our clubs best interests, above their own.

Everton is first and foremost about our football team, and we need to get behind our team now.

I could write a thousand posts on these liars, but it's all been said, and needs to be put aside now, because the most important thing about Everton now, is we need to get behind the players, because they have got to go and win us a few games.

I am beginning to worry that weepy Bill is trying to model himself on Jack Bauer, with DBB as Nina Myers and Sharpie as Tony Almeida.

There is a high risk of the board looking like chumps. Beyond that, suck on a werther's original and calm down.

It is a essential part of duty of care of a employee of the Club.Action has to be taken in such circumstances not only because it legal and required to do so, but as a deterrent and to up hold Club standards of required behaviour.If a employee took a action against the Club for non action when proven assault had taken place they would get compensation from the Club.

New Kit

Especially as these fans have proved time and time again how valuable they are to the survival of this club.

I did post the other day asking for those brilliant fan groups who arranged those loud and peaceful protests to not persist. And I know everybody got right behind the team from kick off to the final whistle, which is what the protest group said they would do.

But when there is turmoil at the club caused solely by this owner and board, it does seem to become the over riding issue, and right now this team are worse than last season. They obviously wont do the right thing and step down, and I cant see what measures they are going to put in place for the Arsenal game that couldn't have been done for the Southampton game.

The Southampton game was high risk. There had allegedly been physical assaults on staff. There were threats against Everton employees allegedly made.

Yet there were no security plans in place for the players who were left to leave the ground on their own. Some with their families.

That would constitute a serious safety issue in any other business. I'd be surprised if it's not being discussed.

Or they didn't see any physical threat hence there was a total lack of security. And it was just an excuse not to attend.

Blame the owner, board, manager, back room staff (justifiably) all you want but it's the 11 cowards who put the shirt on and crumble at the first sign of resistance who must also shoulder some/a lot of the blame.

I'm sick and tired of watching seasoned, extremely rich players wilt in the face of adversity. Have they no shame? No pride? No balls? As those louts screamed at Gordon, “you're not fit to wear the shirt”. Disgraceful but true.

How can this disgusting slight to the Club's history, it's reputation as one of the Leagues founding clubs, and to its supporters, many thousands of us, be dragged through the mud like this, and then just be expected to look as though nothing as happened, when the next match not deemed "High Risk" take place?

I think many Evertonians suopported the asit showing our lack of faith in this board (and now it's credibility) getting this club back to where it belongs.

It's likely that many Evertonians now, will want to show this horrible, self loving man, just what they think of what he has done to our club.

The man who is responsible now for taking action to repair the damage is
Farhad Moshiri.
If he backs the Board and especially the Chairman, then he has lost his own credibility (not that he sees the situation as we do) He most likely should join Kenwright for saying we sacked and chose managers!

A number have said it, and its dead right, we should back our team, and our manager, unless the manager's job is put up for a vacancy. We can't just ever, lety this snidy bastard ruin our club any longer and Moshiri needs to take an active interest in this club, or sell it.

The Board, such as it is, is in it's dying days. DBB was allegedly looking for another job some time ago. Kenwright is no longer fit in a number of respects. They have presided of the slow demise of the Club and thrown the fans under the proverbial bus. They can no longer show their faces at Goodison. We may well have seen the last of them.

Lampard is hanging by a thread.

The squad is threadbare and no longer fit for purpose.

The financial situation is dire.

It can't go on like this much longer.

Relegation, sale and rebirth almost seems welcome.

Having got through 6 managers in as many years and several directors of football, might it be possible that the board is running out of people to blame for our plight?

You got it in one and summed up the situation in the first line of your post but explained it in more accurate detail later.

The slippery one as you described him, has offered up just another one of his deflection lies to the media, who will buy the crap they think will sell 'news' and run with it, lies of no lies they don't care.

The Arsenal game will be 'high risk' being the next installment in duping as many people as possible into ignoring the Chairman and the Boards culpability for the current demise of the Club. A certain number of fans can be blamed but those who are involved in such actions are a minority. The majority have Evertons best interests at heart and are no risk to anyone.

I'm sure the Agenda he has won't take any regard of what happens on the pitch. good or bad (the worse it is the better), as long as it persuades Moshiri to sell his shares (at a loss) to a saviour who knows all about the Club.

Game over and back to the good old days. NOT FROM WHERE I AM SITTING.

Shambles

We have loads of self-appointed financial experts on here. Any lawyers (real or imagined) ?

Bill, I'm sure moyes can put his perfect Spanish to good use. Tour guide in Torremolinos?

No signings, no new manager, and nothing from the board.

Radio silence, a sleep at the wheel.

I have no idea what protestors want beyond the gormless "sack the board" chant because of a complete absence of the above.

Never underestimate your enemy BK and the rest are NOT idiots. Presenting an open goal via headcases chasing players in cars and/or jostling members of the board with umpteen email and social media threats is a lost cause from the get go.

If the protest is to go beyond wailing and hand wringing (which I don't think is possible) those involved need to up their game. They're playing absolutely shite at the mo

It's prime tory tactics and there is nothing about this club that resembles the Everton that I love and grew up with.

No incomings, no style of play and literally no optimism about the rest of the season. Then to be blamed for this mess is the final straw.

Moshiri can't do nothing. No matter what Kenwright is whispering into his ear, he must realize what this man has doneto his investment. If he does nothing he is made to look a fool and is tarnished by the same brush as the board as well as significantly reducing potential returns.

DBB resigns or there is a restructure within the club and she is moved back to Eitc.

Sharp and Thewell remain on the board in current roles.

Kenwright steps down for "health" reasons which of course he has informed us all about. An interim chair is appointed with the task of reviewing the operational management of the club.

Moshiri really has no choice, from a PR standpoint, it's the best option he has other than a direct and immediate sale of the club!

I've a feeling something is on the horizon that the club is not divulging, whether thats a takeover or financial constraints, even a winding up order because we're bankrupt I don't know.

But something is not right.

As for Moshiri, he might be a top Accountant and run a nice quiet business enterprise for his boss. But this situation now? Instead of seeking advice (well, might have, but it was the wrong advice if he did) He came out with a written statement stating that it was us who influenced his sackings and acquiring of managers.
I'm not sure he knows what to do, so I think he'll keep Kenwright around to give him advice...poor fool.

I've a feeling tha Dave Lynch is near the mark in his post

Well this board has blown that one out of the window along with NSNO.

These would deflect criticism of the board and owner and fans would refocus on what is happening on the park.

So radio silence until the anger dies down followed by some signs of action(transfers) may be what he is planning.

Then either Frank gets a win at West Ham or they get a new coach.

All before the next home game.

Of course, this all depends upon whether we have any money to spend or whether we need to sell first, or whether we can get anyone decent on loan.

If we had money, I would have expected Lampard to have been sacked already and one or two new faces settling-in along with the new manager.

Like others, I think the lack of activity must mean either we are skint or that the club is about to announce that it is being bought.

Something is definitely not right backstage.

Sooner or later they will see through the smoke and mirrors, I've said it several times, they need us more than we need them, without fans there is no club.

There's no doubt that the club is in a mess from top to bottom and while I havn't been a Bill Kenwright hater the best thing for the club and himself would be to resign as from now.

The new stadium is the elephant in the room, if we do go down where financially does that leave Moshiri and the club-who knows- thats my biggest fear.

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I agree. I'm beginning to suspect outside or wider influence here toward something unpleasant.

If we say the initial stage was an "error", sleight of hand or incompetence then there has been too much apparent continuation of such in the correction/clean up.

Hundreds of millions at stake here, a potential disaster with the new stadium. The whole image and perception of an institution of over a century in standing being torn apart in full view, and this is the quality of response?

The "clumsy uncle" tactic is an angle beloved of governments and corporations when it suits but it only goes so far.

Something not right indeed.

I was told by another poster here that Steve Ferns is still active on twitter.

I appreciate it would be part of the assets of any takeover/investment bid but It is not being funded by income derived from the club activities as we just seem to accrue losses - it is surely a development project of Moshiri personally using whatever vehicle he has set up to do it. I guess the smell of Usamov would be lingering around somewhere but nothing has been mooted as far as I know with regard to his possible connection and the sanctions and so on. So it is all a bit woolly in my mind.

I can't see that relegation would cause the project to grind to a halt and whilst I appreciate that eventually Moshiri is inevitably going to take an almighty hit with the club, he ain't going to be seen down the food banks any time soon.

Dave I think the photo at the top of this thread confirms that.

I believe the Everton Football Club Shareholders' Association petition should be given more prominence on the site.

Better Call Saul ! :-)

Hahah you nailed the casting

Did you put it on Twitter also?

https://twitter.com/WatchedToffee/status/1615708351853203457?s=20&t=daFv7Tqv3BsVN9sjRWdYcQ

I've no doubt the stadium will be finished but who will own the club by then I wouldn't hazard a guess.

https://www.change.org/p/vote-of-no-confidence-in-efc-board-of-directors

Any chance the board have woken up yet and put in a realistic bid for some quality players ??

https://twitter.com/KavanaghsArklow/status/1615110511414345729?s=20&t=daFv7Tqv3BsVN9sjRWdYcQ

Not the stadium update they "should" be giving. I guess they're not completely stupid. They'll do what politicians do and wait for a good news day and slip it in then. Thing is there'll be no good news day any time soon. And I wouldn't hold my breath for signings, not when the manager's being backed simply because the club can't afford to sack him.

These false people in grey jackets, hiding in the corridors aren't taking my Everton away from me. They never will. We won't let them.

I'm gradually going into match day mode as Saturday approaches.

That doesn't and won't distract from what they've done to us this past week and like a good Liverpool mother, won't be forgotten or forgiven easily. Big mistake.

They are my Everton. Our Everton. Not yours. Never will be.

That surely must be a wind up...if anyone's season ticket is revoked for having an opinion then the law courts await.

Let's get the Cessna out for a fly by at the Arsenal game.

CAN ANYONE SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS.

Anyway TRUST the only magician we have at the club to turn this into a headlock by disgruntled vermin on the streets if there is any truth in it.

Christine you are totally correct that in a normal company they would be obliged to resign but BK has the skin of a rhinoceros and will do anything to remain in control and advise other clubs how to run their club such is his ego,

The only good thing to come of this seems to be those that believed Kenwright "saved our club" are now beginning to realise what sort of person (not man) he is.

I'm sure he constantly reminisces about the days when the league scores were shown using letters and numbers on the side of the pitch. He hates his club becoming a corporate machine, but those blinkers means we're like the Woolworths of the football world.

So I have a bit of sympathy as I also don't want my beloved club turned into some soulless enterprise, but do realise we have to change or we'll have nothing to hang on to.

In that letter, after making concerns for the club's image the emphasis, then introduce a request for more specifics with respect to the alleged incident. Make sure the police are included so that, if they refuse to respond, their urgency will be revealed as dramarama.

Then, if it gets shitty, put up a Joseph Technicolor Flak Jacket on eBay and everyone bid that thing to infinity and go find some journalists who would like to have some fun with it.

Kenwright has only been concerned about making money from the club. Now his shareholding is next to nowt, his biggest potential loss is his 2 million/year "salary", so his attitude is "fuck you".

My biggest concern is that some of Moshiri's money is still in the form of a loan which may enable him to force Everton into administration if things don't go his way.

Be that as it may, and useless as we believe them to be, we do have a duty to look after 'our own' with no need for them to be a-feared for their own safety when amongst us!

And a grandad with a hearing problem who suffers with age related memory loss and wears glasses like the bottom of steri bottles... (younger readers, ask your grandparents).

No type of plans or any kind of desire to win trophies. I honestly believe either the new ground will turn our fortunes round or just throw yet more money at problems.

A total shower of shite.

Thanks for the reply, I'm not familiar with the Mail's journalists, and you're correct – the club's hierarchy are losing the PR battle.

I just asked Steve earlier today to post his thoughts on the site. He's as gutted as all of us. Have to say, though, Marco Silva has cheered him up a bit. Come on, Steve!

He's already rich, and an old man in poor health. He will be thinking more about legacy than greater enrichment.

His involvement with, and influence, on the club increasingly look flawed, but his mistakes have not been borne of malice or personal greed, but rather based on misjudging the qualities of other people – namely the many many terrible signings, management appointments and allowing Moshiri in as majority shareholder.

He doesn't know enough about football – a common failing in the football world as a glance around most other clubs would show you.

So if fans bore in mind that he is not a Murdoch, or a Trump, he is a fallible human being who has, largely, been motivated by a desire to get Everton back up there, or at the very least stable and untroubled.

From our current perspective, it is looking like he has largely failed. But if the scallies could reign it in a bit and try and see the bigger picture, they might not be so inclined to want to grab people by the throat.

It's called the Little Man's Revenge.

The man who owns 94% of the club hasn't even attended a game for 14 months, and I have yet to see a fan protest be successful, especially a protest about an owner of a Premier League club.

Liverpool fans protested against Hicks & Gillette but it was the bank who threatened to put them into liquidation if they didn't sell that caused them to sell – not the protests of their fans.

Man Utd fans have been protesting about the Glazers for a decade or more but they didn't walk away or sell up until it suited them, which looks to be happening shortly.

Newcastle fans, the same with Ashley, but he only left when he got an offer he couldn't refuse.

Arsenal fans wanted Kronke out of their club and that got nowhere, and with Arteta doing so well, I doubt we will hear anything from the Arsenal fans for a while.

Strangely the fans at these clubs have complained that these owners are not investing but that can't be said for Moshiri. Just to be clear, I don't think Moshiri is the right owner because he has clearly demonstrated that he hasn't been involved in what direction the club should have taken. He has just thrown a shed full of money at the problem and that hasn't worked.

I worry about how the protests will be viewed by potential owners; they see a man who has put in excess of 𧺬 million into a club and is in the process of building an iconic stadium on the banks of the Mersey, something every Everton fan has wanted. Yet we want him gone.

I have no idea how much revenue is needed to finish the stadium and where that money will come from. While he has put in at least 𧴜 million just to fill in the old dock, and I don't know how much the build so far he has funded, or if he is prepared to finance the rest of the build.

You're right John, far too many people on here spout bile against the man without completely understanding who he is and what he stands for.

I'm not supporting him, he's no longer a fit for his role, but some of the stuff is too extreme.

'He is a fallible human being'?

He's also a liar, incompetent and happy to see the fans suffer dog's abuse in the press, providing he's not harmed, and I mean not physically, but his image as the 'World's Greatest Evertonian'...

You seem to forget Samuelson, Kings Dock, Destination Kirkby, the Bedsit Boy etc, etc.

Incidentally, Kenwright also claimed that Tommy Steele, himself and Elvis Presley went for a sight seeing tour of London. Years later Steele confirmed this, but as he was a regular in Kenwright productions he may have had a vested interest in backing up Kenwright's fantasy.

I think it's nigh on impossible for the most famous pop star in the world, Presley, and Britain's biggest star (at the time) to have wandered round London unseen, unmolested, and unrecorded. And Kenwright took decades before he made it up. Sorry, made it known. He's a fantasist.

The owner and the board have bet everything on the new stadium being the game-changer for the club. People said at the outset, that it would take a lot more than that to alter Everton's trajectory and even now, nobody is sure how the stadium will be funded in the crucial latter stages of its build.

It might be argued that the stadium project, similarly to Everton in the Community, gave the board members the feeling that the club was progressive and ready to meet the challenges of the 21st Century; however, the bread-and-butter matters, such as the first team, have been woefully neglected and that is why the club is in such turmoil today.

Having said that, he does need to step aside, but finding replacements for him and Barrett-Baxendale is easier said than done. Especially when the owner is so clueless.

But as Brian says, Moshiri has put half a billion quid into the club and is now building us a spanking new stadium. He's a plank, but he can't be accused of not fully funding the club.

Kenwright's main flaw has been his desire to be Mr Everton, at the expense of the best interests of the club at times.

You absolutely nailed it.

I'm sure he now knows it's the end of the road but, once again, he dithers, no doubt trying to put together this broken jigsaw into something vaguely coherent.

My fear – he goes, and then the wheels really do come off... Better the devil you know?

He screwed the club he is supposed to love out of 㿀M.

He stabbed his lifelong friend (Paul Gregg) in the back with a litany of lies and deceit which caused us to miss out on Kings Dock.

He told lies about the stadium falling down and not being able to pass a safety test in the interests of him and his pal Terry Leahy

He milked the club of millions through dubious interests in the British Virgin Isles and his associates Green and Earl.

He pocketed over 㿀M for shares he never paid for.

He did not put one penny of his own money into the club.

And for those who say he remortgaged his house — that was proven to be a total lie.

You poor deluded people if you think he is not evil.

I naively thought that we had heard the last of that oft-repeated but utterly pathetic excuse for the charlatan.

I don't care about the "He's one of us" shit. First and foremost, he is a Liar, and a Bullshitter. He's held us back and is a complete arsehole.

The King's Dock failure alone has put us in the dire situation we are in now. I just hope you've both enjoyed the ride of these non-stop "Good Times"…

Can you not see Bill is the problem and always has been? We are all frustrated, hurt and angry. The world's greatest Evertonian is the cause.

The right thing was leaving the club in the hands of professionals many years ago rather than his handpicked mates so he could carry on schmoozing the great and good in the Directors Box, all whilst hogging the media limelight.

He's a parasite. He doesn't care about you and he's never cared about you. He cares about No 1. Get over it. Everton Football Club does not live and die by Bill Kenwright – contrary to what he believes. There are plenty of people that can do this job, far far far better than a 77-year-old theatre impresario, and his sidekick – a glorified teacher.

Here are some examples of other PL club boards, vs what we have (a complete joke).

https://twitter.com/TheEFCForum/status/1615705816161738754?s=20&t=kZHxp8E9oQ-Y1349sfF-PA

Spot on, is it also true that our Board are the second-highest paid in the Premier League?

But "My fear – he (Kenwright) goes, and then the wheels really do come off...".

We have been rudderless and without wheels for some considerable time.

4,000 and counting!!!

These are the people that have enabled Bill to keep his job for so long and in doing so have helped bring the club to its knees. I blame them as much as him. They should be ashamed but they're too stupid or ignorant to understand that.

He has milked this club while pretending he mortgaged his house to buy EFC. All the palaver that he's used to try and get his way, as Jay Harris has just summarised, omits him from having the privilege of being One of Us.

Everton have been on the slide since 1970. Apart from the three Kendall years and the '95 FA Cup, we have largely been little more than mediocre, and have flirted with relegation on a few occasions. That's 49 years of nothingness.

That is not all down to Bill Kenwright. I remember seeing John Moores getting abuse and notes pinned under his car's windscreen wiper after a 0-0 draw against Arsenal in 1976 "What's wrong with this club? Get Bingham out!" they screamed at him. Poor little feller looked like he was going to crap himself.

We have had the cruel misfortune to share a city with a ruthless club in the ascendancy that has won everything time and again. The more we try and compete, the more we slip away. There's a huge psychological scar which has simply deepened over the decades, leaving the club a basket-case.

Kenwright has proved incapable of the necessary therapy, but I genuinely feel the problems are so deep-set and so long-standing, I'm not sure there's anyone up to the job.

If they are paid the amounts rumoured (check the Annual Report), then all it does is further highlight the alarming Old Boys Club culture we have fostered for so long.

The Club wasn't losing money then. Financially, the Club was very strong. Since Kenwright has been Chairman, that has not been the case. He had to get an investor in to stay solvent.

“See the bigger picture” – you're refusing to look at the picture, the man's lies and deceit have been documented since he became owner of the club with borrowed money.

Where there's a will there's a way. We just have to find the people who

a) want to improve the club, and
b) have the ability to do so.

Where there's a Bill, there's no way!

David #55

I also think we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

Jay#101

It would not surprise me that was the so-called incident. If it is, they know the alleged culprit. But the Club or Denise would not dare to take action on such evidence.

The quadrality at Everton (sorry I was wrong about the trinity): Owner & Chairman, Head Coach, Players and Fans are absolutely misaligned and this is what happens when clubs collapse.

It is of course 100% the fault of one person and he is going nowhere. The result is that we are likely finished now short of a miracle. The ultimate "too big to go down" club? Maybe we'll go down this time because we are a small club?

At the bottom of the Premier League we pay our board 2nd highest salaries? We deserve to go down.

I would guess about 㿼 Million!

When I worked in addictions, I remember speaking to a recovering alcoholic. He said to me... "Before you can start to climb out of the addiction pit, you have to truly hit rock bottom".
That lad did hit rock bottom, I often wonder if he made it in life, he was a lovely lad.

Maybe we have to go through the same process, though at 62 this year, I fear I'll never see us truly climb out of that pit.

Do they know the meaning of high risk?

It's not avoiding going to the match.

I'm at risk going on Saturday for the sake of my sanity, but I will be there.

This Saturday is El Sackio Part II - The Away Leg

I'm already picturing a TV camera close up of a teary eyed Bill at Anfield with his back to us in the Anfield Road end.

As has already been referred to he claims to have gone sightseeing, with Elvis (yeah right) so hopefully he'll dwell on the fact we can't go on together with suspicious minds.

No wonder Kenwright found it so easy to set his fibbing narrative with this institution and its staff.

Last night the RS player Tsmikas brought down cynically a Wolves player on the break. No booking and the commentator said, “That could be seen as a good foul, if that's the right word”.

If I am right, who would buy a player they can't play! Only Everton could conjure up this situation. So play him or send him back to Sunderland.

At the risk of repeating myself, am I wrong?

I remember the last time I was in the East End, and it looked like Everton had a massive chance of going down, so I hope you have a better time there on Saturday, mate!

I've always listened to the BBC when 1000s of miles from home, but lately get told to switch it off as my rantings bore the family and scare the dogs.

I should distinguish between the BBC and BBC Breakfast.

Yesterday, expecting to hear the news with the cost of living crisis and strikes in full flow, I get a full on self-indulged back slapping sofa birthday party.

Why do I pay my TV licence? I pay for Sky, Amazon and Netflix. Why is it legal to pay for the BBC but optional for others?

Meanwhile I'm fretting about Everton and the war in Ukraine is raging whilst they laugh and joke on that RED sofa and cut cake.

Emotional week. Please excuse me.

Surely you are aware that paying your TV licence is optional? Just like you opt in to pay for Amazon (who incidentally have avoided paying multi-millions of pounds corporation tax into the UK).

I guess I'm in the fortunate position that the BBC is banned here in Viet Nam.

It's best we get on without them now Jerome, although if they do return, can we please replace the boo's with hisses, because hisses don't sound quite as aggressive.

Time to get some positives in here and everywhere else to do with Everton FC. Some excellent comments on here. Ah! Danny Boy (Danny O)
the pipes the pipes. I love your outright honesty and emotion! True Blue.

Understand the frustration of all blues. Currently in Phuket in Thailand on holiday, I see Red FC jerseys mostly and wear my Everton T shirt proudly, while they try to take the piss. Must be difficult living in Liverpool and Merseyside in general just now as an Evertonian. Honestly, I'm sorry with what you are all having to put up with.

But Evertonians are a special breed and we will all stick together, particularly when the going gets tough! Let's get some strikers in, get points on the table, and go onward and upwards.

Maupay cost 15.

Everton that

SSN are saying £10m, so that's really rubbing it in.

I've said it before and at the risk of repeating myself; what quality player would/will sign for Everton?

West Ham, Bournemouth and Leicester are bringing players in, as well as other clubs in and around us!

I accept that Thelwell keeps his powder dry, but again repeating myself, what's he doing attending home games?

In respect of increased security, why were Mina and Gordon leaving the ground in their own cars, only to be surrounded by angry fans.
If that's heightened security I'm a Dutchman.
Another debacle from those on high!!!!

Note the petition is to sack the board. Moshiri is not on the board as far as I know. The board are accountable for our parlous position and the failures of the past 7 years (some might argue far longer) as well as the recent slandering of the EFC fanbase. They have shown themselves entirely inadequate to run an EPL football club. To be blunt, our CEO would not be employed by any other club in the EPL or the championship, she is entirely unqualified for the role. Her level would be CEO of a medium sized charity. The removal of the board will not mean we start winning football matches but it is a pre-requisite for turning the club around in the medium term.

You cannot, as others have pointed out, sack an owner. I am more ambivalent about Moshiri. He may be out of his depth, but he has certainly put a lot of money in. That's at least half of what one would expect from an owner. But in practical terms, I believe he is out of money. Personally I don't think he is anything like as rich as advertised and this was mostly Usmanov's money. The best thing he can do for the club is hand it over to new owners with means. That may mean allowing him some part ownership of the club or maybe having a seperate entity for the stadium that he retains a substantial shareholding in, so he can at least recover some of his investment.

One reason the petition will likely fail is that Moshiri's focus is, I suspect, entirely on selling the club, ideally very quickly. The football performance has put us and his plans in crisis mode. The value of his investment has every chance of plummeting. His thinking would need to be long term to replace the current board because for sure, they won't last long under new owners. But equally who would join a board, knowing the owner who appointed you is desperate to sell. Hence I think we are in stasis. And therefore in very clear danger of disintegrating as this game of chicken continues...

I'm with you with regards Moshiri, the people employed to source players of true premiership ability are the main culprits of our demise.
Ok, its not easy to find them and then persuade them to sign for a struggling club but they have consistantly failed miserably.

I don't care who the manager is your never going to do well if the players are not good enough.

Difficult not to weep when you look at how this club is run

I completely agree.

That kind of signing could be the difference between keeping this club in the Premier League this season or us going down and not coming back.

The fact that we were happy to pay so much for McNeil and Maupay is even more painful.

It is an offence under section 363 of the Communications Act 2003 to watch live on any channel, TV service or streaming service, or use BBC iPlayer* on any device, without a valid TV Licence. Section 365 of that Act requires a person to whom a TV Licence is issued must pay a fee to the BBC.

I don't care about Ings. I just care about being there and turning up on Saturday.

I hope the Manager and players do regardless of what the board does.

I really don't care about them.

You might get your wish granted when we get relegated about the club folding.

The debt it will be in means I'd say within 5 years we'll have gone bust.

We have a DoF who should be identifying long term beneficial signings which any Everton manager will appreciate. Specifically we need goals, and whoever replaces Frank (assuming he's on borrowed time) will face the same problems. I suspect we're just skint and Moshiri turned off the taps for good.

Meanwhile we always struggle to actually have any goalscoring strikers.

If we are honest Everton FC don't deserve to be in the premier league, with Years of zero entertainment. Yes it's horrible, that one man can oversee the slow demise over many years.

We've signed more players from other Premier League clubs than any other side, we need to cast our net further like Brighton do.

Granted, we are in a perilous situation so I do understand the worry to some degree.

You've coined another banner for the Arsenal game, Barry.

Regardless as to whether he scores when we win 2 - 1 on Saturday, if we were to spend double digit millions on a 31 year old journeyman plagued by a dodgy injury track record, there would be a lot of criticism from a large portion of our supporters.

I like Ings. A genuine shame injury restricted his career.

Yes we are in a perilous situation, but the worry is that I think for once in my lifetime of support 1954 to today, the disgraceful way F.Moshiri has allowed the club to decline in stature " and yes I hold him fully responsible as owner " players are no longer attracted to Everton they prefer to move to other clubs that are run more successfully.

I noticed too he's picked up a phrase used by both Rafa and Carlo "I'm not a miracle worker." Which begs the question, which cliche is true? A bad workman blames his tools? or A workman is only as good as his tools? Probably both are true in this case.

He could probably do better with what he has at Everton but not lots better. Player for player we have a really poor side - the worst by some margin since Moyes left. Richarlison was carrying this team, it now appears.

For what it's worth, I think it's simply that the Russian well has dried up following sanctions by our Government -and thus Moshiri has now run out of pocket money. Unless he finds a buyer soon, it's curtains, One blessing is that Kenwright will become irrelevant, merely to go down in history as the Chairman who led this great club to disaster !

Will the last one out please switch off the floodlights.

I agree. Case in point would be Maupay. he's not great but at Everton he seems terrible, partly his performance partly because we don't set up in a way that enables him to get many shots. I don't think our approach does much other than highlight the weakness of our defenders too. But that being said, the difference might be a few points not top six.

Do supporters silently mouth 'sack the board ' looking like goldfish and hope that there's some lip readers in the directors box?

Can't understand why Moyes bought him, but maybe he's strapped for cash like us and is only shopping among the bottom feeders.

Maupay might not be good enough foor the Prem but we're letting him down. Not really sure why we bought McNeill, though someone posted that it was reputedly to shut Burnley up Mind you,for whatever reason,I think it would have been better to save our money (hang on! What money?)

The Arsenal game is probably quite rightly classified as a High Risk game...for our team!

We can't spend, at least significantly, because of the Premier Leagues Profit & Sustainability rules. If we exceed those we'll almost suffer a points deduction and be relegated anyway.

Lampard only signed a 2½-year deal, meaning he's got 18 months left, so would his severance pay be about ١.9M, or, as I say, a % age of ١.9M? Hope this makes sense!!

It depends what it says in the contract but generally they get the full amount.

I understand that some clubs also insist on paying the "compensation" over the remaining length of the contract but will pay a one-off lesser lump sum if it can be agreed.

I've been watching with interest of late and they seemingly advertise themselves. Does that constitute advertising? Even if it isn't in the commercial sense?

They still make money. It's just paid for by the taxpayer.

Maybe I could opt out. But I'd rather grumble in the mornings at that Breakfast crew with their emotional journalism telling me how bad the country is because I actually respect the BBC.

Radio 4 educated me and got me through my commissioning to become an Officer in the Army.

Bobby brown shoes stuck out for £12m which was in his contract.
He never backed down and that's what it cost us.
What happened to loyalty?
However, I accept I'm living in the past!

I shouldn't watch the Breakfast show!!

In 2020, the BBC received 3.5 billion from license fees and 1.3 billion from commercial enterprises such as selling DVDs, streaming, licensing content overseas etc. Also, it has partnerships on things like BBC America that generate advertising income.

This is in part why they revived Doctor Who because it has more commercial potential with toys, etc. It's also why it is still going even though in recent years the viewing figures have tanked.

Aren't the Tories trying to privatise Channel 4 now?

With Koeman, I recall we paid it over the length of the contract but it had a stipulation that, if he got a new job, it would decrease by the amount of his new wage. So, when he got the Holland job on around €800k a year,we still paid him the balance of his ٤ million a year deal.

Tony and I got a telling off last night for watching Eastenders and Rob Halligan is going to give me a verbal warning on Saturday in the East End!!!

Gordon, Gray, Gueye, McNeil, Doucoure, Davies are just truly shit footballers end of. So by all means buy 2 strikers or get 2 on loan but just watch the lack of service. Its criminal. As it stands I can't see us getting anyone in anyway. Or maybe Elanga on loan wow can't wait.

"Everton release evidence of fellow Directors witnessing "headlock" incident"

If you give is 100% in every minute of every game you will get it back in spades from us. Signed ………

John Gall # 142 - unsavoury as it is, and hard to swallow, everything you wrote is true and in my opinion it was all down to one man - he who we loved to hate - Bill Shankly. My point is one leader can change the fortunes of a club. We have to find ours.

Marco Bielsa - ”Accept the injustice, swallow the poison, everything will balance in the end”

Didn't seem to bother them then, they still got their weekly wage packet.

“For instance, no one works harder than Denise. In addition to the day-to-day running of the club, she is also working tirelessly on the new stadium. For her to be targeted is so unfair.” Source (Daily Mirror)

Sorry, Graeme, you gave me some of the greatest moments watching Everton FC, but I hold you in a little less esteem than I used to.

They'll just use the grief as another way for Kenwright to say to his media acolytes 'this is the thanks I get". Heartbreaking where we are heading.