Season › 2024-25 › News Abdoulaye Doucouré confirms his imminent departure from Everton Michael Kenrick 20/05/2025 125comments | Jump to last As widely expected after Everton failed to take up the option of a contract extension back in March, Abdoulaye Doucouré has now confirmed his imminent departure from Everton when his contract expires at the end of June, bringing to a conclusion his 5-year journey with the club. After an emotional wave to the fans at Goodison Park when he was substituted in the second half against Southampton on Sunday, he has today posted a personal message to Everton fans, confirming his departure: “Hi Evertonians, I just wanted to share this message with you that I’m going to leave the football club at the end of the season. After five wonderful years, my time at Everton has come to an end. “Everton means a lot to me. Obviously the past five years have been hard. I will always my time as a dream for me to play for Everton Football Club. Obviously, I’m sad to leave the club after five wonderful years, but I think the time has come for a new chapter for me and the club as well and I will always be grateful for what the club did for me. “When the opportunity came, I was very happy to sign for the club. My best memory will obviously be the goal I scored against Bournemouth to keep the club in the Premier League. “I think this is something I’ll always be proud of. It was a wonderful moment for me and my family, and for the club as well. “I will miss the fans, I will miss the football club. I just wanted them to know that I gave everything, every single time in training and in games. I was always proud to wear the shirt. I was always proud to play at Goodison Park. “I gave everything to win as many games as I could. I will just miss the place and I wish them all the best in the new stadium. “Everton will always be part of my life now. I will be forever a Blue, I will always be supporting Everton and I hope they are going to have a bright future.” Doucoure joined Everton from Watford for £20M following their relegation from the Premier League in 2020; he has made 165 appearances for the Blues, scoring 21 goals, including some very special ones. The Athletic has claimed Doucoure was offered a new contract by Everton last week, but a deal could not be struck. Everton later confirmed Doucoure had been offered fresh terms “but he has decided to pursue opportunities elsewhere”. It became clear earlier this month that the player would be unwilling to take salary cut to stay at Everton, with The iPaper confirming that the new deal was at a lower weekly wage. “Doucs has been an influential player throughout his time at the club, including since I returned as manager, and Evertonians will always be grateful for his dedication and crucial goals,” manager David Moyes added. “Everyone at Everton thanks Doucs for his service and wishes him all the best for the future.” Reader Comments (125) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Ryan Holroyd 1 Posted 20/05/2025 at 13:53:54 Doucoure apparently is going. Anyone heard? Michael Nisbet 2 Posted 20/05/2025 at 14:09:10 Yes, he's announced he's leaving. On Sky Sports now. Christy Ring 3 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:00:25 Wish him all the best, a great servant who always gave 100%, will always be remembered for the winner against Bournemouth which kept our Premier League status, thanks again. He will probably get one last big payday in Saudi, good luck to him. We couldn't justify keeping him on his present terms. Martin Berry 4 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:01:51 Thanks Duke for all your hard work on and off the pitch, that goal against Bournemouth will always be remembered. I am sure you will get a great reception whenever you decide to visit BMD in the future.Wishing you all the best for the remainder of your career. Andrew Ellams 5 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:03:34 Had some good times and of course that one special moment that arguably saved the club but the time is right to move him on. Roger Helm 6 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:07:04 Never the most skilful footballer, but always gave everything, which counts for a lot. Scored some good goals, too. Best wishes for the rest of his career. Ryan Hagedorn 7 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:10:30 Wishing him all the best for the future. Im glad he's not being offered a new deal. Time for us to move on and bring in someone younger with more quality. Ryan Holroyd 8 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:13:02 Good luck to him. He gave everything in every match if quality was mostly lacking Raymond Fox 9 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:42:53 I'm sorry to see him go, he gave 100% every game as he should do of course but not every player does that.I would have definitely kept him but I suppose it comes down to money, which you can see the picture from both sides. Mike Gaynes 10 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:56:31 Nobody ever gave more effort or passion... always with a smile.And what a goal that was. The best hit of his life when the club needed it most.Wishing him nothing but the best. Tony Abrahams 11 Posted 20/05/2025 at 15:57:50 Best football player? Definitely not.Did he give everything for the shirt? Most definitely.Thanks for that goal against Bournemouth, Doucoure kid, and the very best of luck in whatever you do in the future👏👏💙 Martin Farrington 12 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:06:45 Is it the right decision from the club? Definitely.He was offered another contract and refused it. Now I don't know what that was, but I am betting it wouldn't have been a substantial cut. Probably only another season though.I believe Moyes didn't see him as a regular feature in the side for the forthcoming campaign and, as it's a fair old wage he is picking up, decided the money could be spent better elsewhere, and I would have to agree. From a footballing point of view, like Onana, I wasn'tt a fan of his. Still not. But he played for us and he will always have my support and best wishes. Alan McMillan 13 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:10:40 Good to see sentiment hasn't gotten in the way of common sense. We should be looking to sign players who are more consistent. On his day, he was great… but sadly too many off days. I'd worry about his commitment had he signed a deal on much reduced terms. Thanks, Doucoure, best of luck in Saudi. Danny O'Neill 15 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:14:12 I don't have to comment on the footballer as I've done that to death over the years.You could never knock his commitment or his engine. That is why managers will have kept picking him. We've all been there as a player and as a coach.It is natural to turn to the Bournemouth goal but my most memorable match was away to Brighton in the same season. Edging once again towards relegation and playing against a team that few gave us a chance against.I had only just taken my seat – well, stood in front of my seat, as no-one sits down at away matches – and he puts us 1 - 0 up after 1 minute. Then bags the second and we are 2 - 0 up on the half-hour. We win 5 - 1 against the so-called odds.That was as important as Yeri Mina's 99th minute slide in at Wolves to give a point and then obviously Doucoure's winner at Goodison against Bournemouth.So thank you, Abdulaye. You may not have been the best, but you worked hard and gave it everything. And you are an Evertonian now. It won't leave you. Brendan McLaughlin 16 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:24:57 Certainly not the worst, by some distance, signing of the Moshiri era. I wish him well.Trusting his replacement will quickly justify the club's decision not to take up the option of extending Doucoure's contract. Liam Mogan 17 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:27:15 Good luck to him, wherever he ends up. Anyone who gives 100% like he did deserves fans support and thanks. Arguably one of the most limited footballers in terms of natural ability we've ever had, but the fact that we've rarely won when he wasn't playing, shows the impact he had, in the most tumultuous period of our history. Neil Lawson 18 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:32:23 He has served the club well but it is time for him to go. His departure will be softened, no doubt, by the £625,000 he will earn between now and then. Mike Iddon 19 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:37:07 "Arguably one of the most limited footballers in terms of natural ability we've ever had"Pretty sure he was more skilful than Oumar Niasse, Brett Angell, Rod Belfitt, Carl Tiler, Terry Darracott… I could go on. His quality of passing is what let him down but I'm content to remember some of the goals he scored that definitely didn't show any lack of technique. Kunal Desai 20 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:37:19 All the best Abdoulaye. Thanks for the memories and those key goals. Good luck, wherever next you go. Joe McMahon 21 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:39:22 He always gave his best, and some very important goals for us aswell. I'm gonna miss this dude! A true Evertonian! Andy Crooks 22 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:46:59 Seems like he was offered a new contract but turned it down. Michael Kenrick 23 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:47:09 Martin @12,He was offered another contract and refused it.Ah, just seeing that now. The Athletic. So we are to infer that he really did want a pay rise and the club offered him less? Amazing how that became a meme months ago, if true. It sounded odd to me because players generally get paid more and more, rather than taking a pay cut, which seems to be very rare. Andy Crooks 24 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:50:09 Think it's on the club site that he was offered a new contract but turned it down. Duncan McDine 25 Posted 20/05/2025 at 16:51:04 Barry Horne, Gareth Farrelly, Abdoulaye Doucouré. None of these 3 were the most gifted players in Everton's history, but they'll all be fondly remembered for the same reason. I'll be interested to see where he goes next and hope that he doesn't just opt for the Saudi money. This is shaping up to be a busy summer, which is exciting. I just hope the squad isn't disrupted to the point where it takes forever to gel. Colin Crooks 26 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:00:34 Always found it difficult to know what he was going to bring to the party. Most of the time he brought a plastic bottle of Frosty Jack cider which nobody fancied....But every now and again he brought a few cases of Dom Peringnon. Enough for everybody and made the party go with a swing.I will miss the Dom Pom Moments and I wish him all the luck in the world. Paul Ferry 27 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:03:38 Not the worst news to wake up to after last week's hideous misjudged and deluded interview. We wasted so much money on you lad.If the word about turning down a new contract is anywhere near correct, even if it was poor fella say 30K lower, then off he goes, shut the door behind you, no worries, no concerns, no regrets, no feelings at all really to be honest. Just go. Shite as usual in the hour or so he was on the pitch v Saints. Thanks for the odd important goal. Bye. Go and build some sandcastles in Mammon's land. Jason Brook 28 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:08:14 I echo what everyone has said. Whilst not the most skilful player, he always put a shift in. It was a nice statement recognising the fans, I am certainly grateful for what he has done – especially the Bournemouth goal. Wish him nothing but the best for the future. Mal van Schaick 29 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:08:45 He has spoken of his departure from the club in glowing terms. A bit of a headless chicken sometimes running around, but can't fault his effort and passion for the club.Slowly but surely, Everton are releasing players and players are leaving of their own accord which has to be part of the plan for rebuilding a squad fit for the future and the new stadium. Exciting times ahead. Dave Abrahams 30 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:25:14 Michael (23),Yes, players do get paid more and more as they get better and better — has Doucoure improved since he came here? I don't think so. He came had a go but he had more poor games than good ones and now I think he is on the way down so thanks for those goals and the best of luck with your future. Paul Ferry 31 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:28:02 Running around and effort mean nothing if they more often than not translate into little or nothing. Jay Harris 32 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:29:00 Heart of a lion and energy of a tiger but parting company at this stage of our development and his career is the right thing to do.Thanks for the grit and passion Doucs and good luck in what you do. Robert Tressell 33 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:44:48 The right move by the club.No shortage of energy, some vital and spectacular goals and critical to our defensive shape even when playing as a pseudo No 10. He contributed very heavily to us staying in the Premier League, but doesn't have the ability to kick us on from here.Out of those with question marks due to contractual position etc, it looks to me like this (unless someone can update me):Out of contract (first team) - Doucoure [Gone] - Young [Gone] - Coleman [Player coach role?] - Gueye [Probably staying?] - Begovic [Gone] - Virginia [Gone] - Calvert-Lewin [in the balance] - Holgate [Not confirmed but surely gone]Loaners - Lindstrom [very unlikely to be retained] - Broja [could be retained] - Harrison [could be retained] - Mangala [very unlikely to be retained] - Alcaraz [likely to be retained but not confirmed] Paul Ferry 34 Posted 20/05/2025 at 17:57:44 That's a lot of required buying Robert! There are - what? - two perhaps three Academy lads who might make a splash, but they are not Premier League ready at this point. Do we go with a smaller thinner squad with our luck for injuries? I'm counting nine probably ten more likely to go. I can see Harrison getting another year (Moyes likes him; he's a Moyes-type player). What sort of players can we bring in? Mostly low budget, I imagine, but of course the elephant in the room is we do not know what our budget will be.Also, Robert, we might need to factor in selling one or two.I just hope that the first team to grace Everton Stadium will be much better than the one that stumbled around the pitch in Sunday's second half. But that would not be hard, to be honest. Nor does it bode well that Friedkin's lad chose to watch a meaningless league game in Rome on Sunday rather than hop on a plane for the last ever male first team game at The Old Lady. Mike Gaynes 35 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:04:01 Michael #23, yes, I can't remember the last time we heard of a Premier League starter swallowing his pride and accepting a pay cut. They never lack for self-confidence, do they?Plus Doucoure looks at shlubs like Wijnaldum, Kessie and Malcolm making two and three times his salary in the Saudi League, and how could he resist wanting some of that easy money? Sam Hoare 36 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:12:00 Robert @33, I think Gueye is the big unknown in that list. Arguably our player of the season and I hoped his future might have been clarified by now. Him leaving would leave a big hole.As for Doucoure, I hope he is remembered fondly. He's probably in the Top 3 or so players responsible for keeping us up over the last few years when we were investing less in our team than most Championship teams. His work rate and professionalism have been top notch and he is of course entitled to want one last pay day. Hopefully a move that works out okay for both parties as we aim to find a Number 10 with their best years in front of them who is a little more comfortable on the ball. Ajay Gopal 37 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:14:13 Echoing 90% of the opinion here - very, very grateful for all his efforts and crucial goals, without which we might be in the Championship by now. But, he did have his crazy moments, none worse than the red card and 3-match ban during the crucial run-in to the season end which culminated in that dramatic game against Crystal Palace. I believe he missed that game due to his suspension. Andy Duff 38 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:16:27 Firstly thanks for the crucial goals Doucs. You'll go down in history for that Bournemouth goal like Barry Horne etc from the past. Did anyone see the some might say damage limitation Toffee TV interview he did?https://youtu.be/2d60jUXCJ4M?si=MDHBY8_TfsBdfqYWHe came across really well, said he was more a 6 or 8 not a 10 but would play anywhere. I had a feeling he was going on Sunday, from my seat we are really close to the bench and he was visibly upset when he was subbed.Good luck, Doucs, hopefully we will give Armstrong a chance and sign Charly permanently. Rob Dolby 39 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:23:55 Appreciate his effort and goals. His lack of awareness regarding his worth is staggering. He knows the club haven't got a pot to piss in but wants more than his £130k a week to keep the love of the club!Let's move on and maybe change our shape a bit. Alcaraz or Ndiaye can play in the role.Wonder how many pints Derek Knox has had given this news. Paul Ferry 40 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:28:59 Mind you (34) I might be wrong about that, as #35 did some top detective work to show us that Friedkin and his lad were at the last Old Lady game on Sunday. Michael Boardman 41 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:32:38 Good luck, mate. I also think his mate Gana might be joining him to be honest. Paul Ferry 42 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:35:23 I hope not Michael (41) and I think that I think not now, not least because of what Robert posted above (33). Gana has at least one top season in him. Michael Boardman 43 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:35:32 Good point, Sam [36]. Hopefully a reset for some positions, but need to keep the younger players. Michael Boardman 44 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:36:47 I agree Paul [42] - would love him to stay Mike Gaynes 45 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:47:45 Robert #33, just hope you're right about Alcaraz. Must be kept IMO.Wholly applaud the sentiment on Gana. Leading the Premier League in tackles by a wide margin, and the last time I checked, he was leading the top five European leagues as well. Irreplaceable. Robert Tressell 46 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:48:51 Good though some of these players are, none are irreplaceable. Even Gueye. Ray Robinson 47 Posted 20/05/2025 at 18:57:02 Notice who is always first over to congratulate and celebrate with a team mate when another player scores? Always has a smile on his face and always gives his all. Seems like a top bloke. But it's time for both sides to go their separate ways.Forever grateful for that goal against Bournemouth! Paul Ferry 48 Posted 20/05/2025 at 19:03:47 Ray Robinson 47: "Notice who is always first over to congratulate and celebrate with a team mate when another player scores?"Now that's a challenge, Ray! I'm going to check every goal for the last three seasons. Shouldn't take me too long. Bill Hawker 49 Posted 20/05/2025 at 19:11:17 Robert #33.I'm pretty sure Keane's on that list as well and I expect him to move on as well. Agreed that Holgate will be gone as well. Calvert-Lewin? I expect someone will offer higher wages than we will so I expect him to move on.Gana the only one on that list that I'd offer another one year deal to based on his performance this season. Christy Ring 50 Posted 20/05/2025 at 19:58:00 I reckon Keane and Holgate will go also, but Moyes wants to keep Calvert-Lewin in my opinion. I see where the club have issued a statement condemning the vile abuse his wife received on social media for congratulating her husband and the club, shocking. Oliver Molloy 51 Posted 20/05/2025 at 19:59:25 Good luck to him, gave his all when he played, very frustrating at times, but that strike that guaranteed survival Evertonians will not forget.There was a rumour alright that he was offered £40K for a year, but turned that down, so he didn't want to play at the new ground that much - who knows he might play there yet if another team offers him a better deal.Calver-Lewin also isn't going to be offered any improved terms on his current contract, in fact it has to be a lot less in my opinion. He should head on to wherever and start fresh. Moyes reckons Beto is going to get better!I think we will see the new owners make it quite clear this transfer window there will be no more silly contracts handed out to average players - any big money contract will be for players who will make a real difference. Ryan Holroyd 52 Posted 20/05/2025 at 20:04:21 IF Doucouré was offered 40k no wonder he turned it down Oliver Molloy 53 Posted 20/05/2025 at 20:23:41 I think 40K was a great offer to be honest. Chris Jenkins 54 Posted 20/05/2025 at 20:35:25 Dave Abrahams #30 A succinct and accurate comment. As you say Abdoulaye Doucoure had more poor games than good ones and, like you, I feel that situation would probably have deteriorated further in the event his contract had been renewed.His crucial goal against Bournemouth will, arguably, be remembered realistically, for many years to come, by the vast majority of Evertonians, as preventing what would have been the catastrophe of relegation.From a personal point of view it is very pleasing to read that the majority of posters recognise, notwithstanding Abdoulaye's limitations, his positive contribution to the club, with only the one unpleasantly negative comment to date Graham Mockford 55 Posted 20/05/2025 at 20:43:15 Paul Ferry, give it a rest.The lad is going, right decision but he could never be accused of not giving his all. And his goal kept us in the Premier League.And it's 15 goals you need to check. Ryan Holroyd 56 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:16:13 40k is joke offer Colin Glassar 58 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:43:07 I wouldn't get out of bed for £40k p/w. Bloody insulting.Is it true Herr Klopp will be managing our sister club next season? Ryan Holroyd 59 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:45:04 No, Klopp isnt joining Roma. Colin Glassar 60 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:47:20 Ta, Ryan. Paul Hewitt 61 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:47:34 The forest manager is the favourite for the Roma job. Neil Lawson 62 Posted 20/05/2025 at 21:58:40 £40k per week. Disgraceful offer. That's a paltry £2m per year. How could he possibly survive on that having only earned about £25m during the course of his contract ? Shameful. No wonder he wants to depart these shores for a better paid kickabout in the Middle East. BMD obviously not that special after all. Svein-Roger Jensen 63 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:10:23 Neither their our player nor our star signing but Abdoulaye Doucouré has managed to become one of Evertons most consistent and vital players. So far he looks to be an underrated addition to the Toffees with his performances gone unnoticed.Doucouré, who has shown great ability to remain fit apart from his exploits on the pitch, and helped us to stay in PLThanks and good luck big man💙 Martin Farrington 64 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:20:37 Michael @ 23Not entirely sure what you mean.It had been public for some time that Gueye and Douc had contract offers on the table.Gueye had agreed.Most people on here stated that they hoped Douc wouldnt sign.I was in that camp.I did say I don't know what he was offered.However it did appear to be below his expectations. "He made it clear that he will not take a salary cut to extend his contract at Everton " which was reported on TW on 9th May. So what I take from that is that he was being offered less, which in my opinion is not that rare especially in circumstances such as these.Bearing in mind his age, contributions, goals (or lack of) plus what he actually does. His boundless energy is of little consequence to his giving the ball away frequently and his inability to create or pass or tackle.Moyes may or may not have seen this. I know he prefers players in their prime rather than their dotage.The only suprise to me is that with half the squad or more are no longer contracted to us, and that for a year Moyes may have given in. I cant see Everton getting in 10-15 new 'uns. Let alone decent players especially as we have no money coming in from those leaving and little room to manoeuvre due to the old and new FFP regs, despite whatever cash FDR are providing. And with a crap academy (always the case) which offers nothing other than bench warmers who would never get used, I hope Moyes may be Baldrick in disguise. Dan Parker 65 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:21:19 Its obvious he cares deeply about the club, delivered when it mattered most, genuine good guy. Some great memories and best for both parties to move on and seek out pastures new. Wish Duke nothing but the very best for the future. Svein-Roger Jensen 66 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:28:01 Neither our best player nor our star signing but Abdoulaye Doucouré has managed to become one of Evertons most consistent and vital players. He looks to have been an underrated addition to the Toffees with his performances gone unnoticed.Doucouré, who has shown great ability to remain fit apart from his exploits on the pitch, and helped us to stay in PLThanks and good luck big man💙 Tom Bowers 67 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:30:08 It's probably the best for both him and the club but Everton need to move on with fresh talent so some have to go.We have finished in 13th spot which isn't too bad considering the poor run of results under Dyche.Kudos must go firstly to the defense which so far only conceded 44 goals (better than most others) especially after conceding 13 in the first four games and then of course Moyes for steadying the ship.A lot of work still to be done and of course the Barcodes game which Newcastle have to win to get into Champions league so we cannot expect much up there. Mike Gaynes 68 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:34:45 Christy #52, hadn't heard about that until I read your post, looked it up. Shocking indeed. From our fans?? Unimaginable. Oliver #55, not when he can get 4-5X that much in the Saudi league. Paul Hughes 69 Posted 20/05/2025 at 22:39:49 He alway tried, and scored some vital goals, but never, in my opinion, justified his huge salary (although, his salary is not his fault).An offer of a smaller (but still huge) salary is perfectly reasonable from Everton. He has his right to refuse it.I cant see any club in England matching his expectations, but someone in Saudi might. His lots of effort, lots of running, minimal skill style will be interesting to observe in the desert. Craig Scott 70 Posted 20/05/2025 at 23:34:33 He's not been good enough for our future plans for some time so I'm a little concerned if the club did offer him another contract even if on reduced terms. What are they thinking, and how much other ‘deadwood' e.g. Keane, Calvert-Lewin, Harrison, are they going to offer renewed contracts for? Onwards and upwards, not sideways please. I wish Douc no ill will. He tried hard but wasn't good enough during most (not all) of his handsomely paid time with us. Au Revoir. Mark Taylor 71 Posted 20/05/2025 at 00:02:38 I think he did give everything he had. The problem is what he had, which was never enough to be our highest wage earner, or near enough that.Good luck wherever you go, even Saudi. Paul Ferry 72 Posted 21/05/2025 at 03:26:07 Graham 57. It's actually 19 goals, not 15, so you might want to go and do some checking. And thanks for your irritation but that's my opinion, thank you very much, and I have a right to express it. I rarely comment on Doucoure so it's hardly worthy of the "give it a rest" jibe. We will very quickly not miss him. Overrated. Overpaid. Decent bag of wind getting up and down the pitch but far too often to little effect. Dupont Koo 73 Posted 21/05/2025 at 03:37:24 For someone like Doucoure, who is 32 and relies on pace and stamina more than anything else, can't blame the Front Office to conclude that he might have lost a step already: since March, he was visibly a step slow in several occasions (although having a new-born in his household might be the reason too).He is on reportedly £110k per week and IMHO, the club's extension offer might be close to a 50% paycut.Grateful for his service to the club. All the best to him getting his last big pay day of his career (where is the speed dial to Saudi?) Mike Gaynes 74 Posted 21/05/2025 at 04:17:02 DuPont, it's actually £130k according to multiple sources. Amazing that he's making more than Jordan Pickford. Paul Ferry 75 Posted 21/05/2025 at 05:06:50 Dupont, this huff and puff mediocrity has some have said been offered a £90k weekly pay cut, from £130k weekly to £40k weekly. Tony Cheek 76 Posted 21/05/2025 at 05:18:00 Probably the length of the new contract offer was the decider, not the amount. Only a season I expect! Go fill your boots, Abdo! Always done his best, if that wasn't good enough, then blame the managers who picked him. Bet he was brilliant to have in the dressing room! Maybe we haven't lost one of our best players, but definitely one of the best characters! We need them too! Steve Brown 77 Posted 21/05/2025 at 05:53:42 Better without the ball than with it.Last Sundays game was a microcosm of his career with us, as attacking moves constantly broke down when the ball arrived at his feet. But, his contribution to the press was impressive and he had a goal in him.The new offer seems low at £40k a week, but his existing contract of £130k a week was borderline criminal for such a limited player.He is 32 so probably wants to maximise his earnings while he can, but he will only he get close to his current contract if he goes to Saudi. Tax free of course!Gana is 36 this year so he might take a lower salary to sign a new 1 year contract. Paul Ferry 78 Posted 21/05/2025 at 05:56:25 Tony, did you not read his deluded interview last week where he. said that he should be getting a pay rise not a pay cut for how important he is? Nice of you to give him cleaner motives Tony but I think that you might be wrong.He has been filling his boots for years with us Tony - £130K weekly - and the overall returns on the pitch have been well not worth £130K or anywhere near. Our highest paid player and our top huffer puffer. So glad that he is off the books.I hope you're right Steve. Gana, now there's a proper player who we would miss. Danny O'Neill 79 Posted 21/05/2025 at 05:57:56 Important goals, boundless energy, commitment, more stray passes than accurate ones. We've all seen the same.But I'm surprised no-one has mentioned one of his finest Everton moments. Standing in front of Lucifer's children at the end following Tarkowski's stunning equaliser to wind them up and cause the mayhem that resulted in their manager, coach and a player sent off. Yes, he got one himself, but it was worth it.Paul, we need to be looking for Gana's replacement now. He is and hopefully will be very important to us next season. We should really have been looking already. I read rumours we're interested in Longstaff from Newcastle, but he's a different type of player. Eric Myles 80 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:06:20 Paul: "I can see Harrison getting another year (Moyes likes him; he's a Moyes-type player)."That's what was being said about Young and Doucoure, both going. Paul Ferry 81 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:22:23 I know, Eric, and I said that myself about Doucoure, and he was to be fair offered a new contract. Harrison I have a horrid hunch about. I don't want him to stay, Eric, but the number heading for the door mean that we need to hold on to a couple.Interesting, no decisions on loanees unless I'm wrong. End of contracts first, loans later. I think that two loanees at least will stay, Eric, and I'm thinking Harrison and Alcaraz.Agree, Danny, but it might not be a top priority as I expect Gana to get another year. Longstaff is not a suitable replacement for Gana. Nowhere near imo. Anthony Flack 82 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:26:47 Best wishes. He gives the ball away continually, awkward, and near hopeless on occasions especially when he has time to think in the ballAlso sometimes brilliant…. but kind of very organically and I'm not sure he knows himself how he does it.Runs a lot up and down…Move on, thanks and good luck. Mick O'Malley 84 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:30:01 Paul Ferry, spot on. He has been filling his boots for far to long, I've wanted him gone for ages, I'm glad I won't see his head in his hands after he's misplaced or underhit another pass, an average of 4 goals and a couple of assists a season for a 100 grand plus a week, no thanks. I'd also like to say that the disgusting abuse that Doms wife has had to suffer is abhorrent, I'm no fan of DCL but ffs what is wrong with these "people", get them found and charged, absolute scum Jonathan Oppenheimer 85 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:34:57 I've said it before and I'll say it again: I've always loved Doucoure the person, for the smile, the effort, the love of the game and the badge. He didn't force our previous regime to overpay him; that's on us. And the Bournemouth goal will forever be legendary. All the best, et merci!This rebuild could go a lot of different ways, and when you have to bring in so many new players, it's quite exciting. It also leaves open the possibility of having to overpay, to take a chance on unproven players from lower leagues, in wanting players who don't want us back. Even Gana could decide to get paid in Saudi if we're only offering him 1 year. But if Gana stays, if we don't bungle the Alcaraz signing, and if we keep hold of Branthwaite, then we can splurge on a winger, a right-back, and another midfielder, and things will be looking up. I still think we should wait another year to pay for a striker, whether or not Calvert-Lewin stays. Get one on loan if necessary, even Broja again. First things first, ruin the Barcodes' season on Sunday! Paul Ferry 86 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:42:21 Anthony Flack: this is absolutely spot on you bastard. Why could I not have said this?"... near hopeless on occasions especially when he has time to think ... " Brian Williams 87 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:46:33 There was a rumour he was offered £40k a week. Where did this rumour start? How did this rumour start?How did this rumour become gospel judging by the reactions of some posters on this thread?Jeez, people are just so ready to believe anything that's thrown at them with no provenance. Eric Myles 88 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:49:00 It's clear that he was offered reduced terms to stay but why? If everyone is right about his lack of ability? He must offer something to the team for so many managers to have him on the team sheet, including Ancelotti?On an aside, was it Doucoure's wife that was wearing the white headscarf in the players lap of the pitch on Sunday? And what was written on the back of Calvert-Lewin's wife's shirt? Paul Ferry 90 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:52:07 I think that was Gana's wife, Eric. Paul Ferry 91 Posted 21/05/2025 at 06:54:55 While I agree, Brian, it's clear surely that he was offered less than £130k weekly? £40K does seem like a 'Fuck off' note, to be honest. Brian Williams 92 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:03:52 Paul, It does seem like a fuck off note mate but I have to doubt whether those in charge thought "Well if he takes £40k he can stay, but let's hope he doesn't."I'd like to think they either wanted him to stay or not, if you know what I mean.We can only speculate but the rumour doesn't quite make sense to me unless there's still an element of "we don't know what we're doing."Paul, It was indeed Pauline Gueye. Jerome Shields 93 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:09:56 Good Luck to him. It is assumed he was offered reduced wages, but I think it had more to do with its length. Expect him to go to Saudi on a long contract. He was box to box, I expect his replacement will be more Madison, Rice or McGinn like, though Moyes will take his time bedding him in. Paul Ferry 94 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:10:50 But I have to doubt whether those in charge thought "Well, if he takes £40k, he can stay, but let's hope he doesn't."Totally agree, Brian, mate. They would have called it a coup and pinched themselves if he signed to stay but they must have heard last week's interview where he went on the warpath for a pay hike. Where the feck did "warpath" come from? Brian Williams 95 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:12:22 Either way, Paul, I think it's worked out for the best mate.Maybe it does show there's a little more professionalism afoot in the club.I certainly hope so. Paul Ferry 96 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:15:59 Nice thoughtful post as ever Jonathan, but I don't think with respect mate that the DCL abuse is in the same league/category as howling because one of ours misplaced a pass or made a mistake at the back. Paul Ferry 97 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:19:30 Some pragmatic business wheeling and dealing. I agree, Brian mate, that this might be a sign. I mean, if it was a 90K pay cut or 60K or 30K that's pretty fucking ruthless in the knowledge that AD would have been insulted. Jack Convery 98 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:22:24 A thank you for his commitment when playing and wishing him luck in his new venture. The Bournemouth goal will always be remembered and he'll always be welcomed back. Daniel A Johnson 99 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:31:48 Solid player but, given his level of skill, the wage he was on was obscene.In saying that, at least he was always fit and match ready. Derek Knox 100 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:42:07 No tears from me unsurprisingly, to get the wages for just running around, rarely assisting or scoring a goal, which, as an Attacking Midfielder is part of the remit. His control and basic ball skills were abysmal. Please no more of these profligate signings, wages or contracts.I wish him well wherever that may be! Danny O'Neill 101 Posted 21/05/2025 at 07:47:30 Jonathan,Good post. The other factor with a large influx of new players is that it often takes time for them to gel as a team.That's why I have always been cautious. Usually the best approach is to gradually transition, with maybe 4 additions.With the contract situation, we aren't in that position and we will need obvious reinforcement. It might just take half a season for them to spark. Martin Mason 102 Posted 21/05/2025 at 08:20:31 Fine but his function has to be replaced and Alcaraz and Ndiaye together don't seem to provide that function. I'm sure that Moyes has a replacement in mind or a change in tactics and formation to cater for the loss. Tony Abrahams 103 Posted 21/05/2025 at 08:27:30 I just hope we sign a few players with the boundless energy possessed by Doucoure, especially if they can also play a little bit.They say Guardiola has changed the way football is now played in this country, but he's also had an open check book. My view is that, without an open check book, then you have got to find another way to play and I'd much prefer to watch fast aggressive football, rather than a team who just want to constantly keep possession.Newcastle bullied Liverpool at Wembley. I thought Liverpool were beginning to wilt at Goodison, until Salah pulled a goal out of the bag and the common denominator in the performance of both teams was that it was built on front-foot aggression. Colin Malone 104 Posted 21/05/2025 at 12:45:38 Good luck, Abdoulaye, I'm not your greatest fan. You're the worst Number 10 I've seen in a blue shirt, hence our goal tally. In my opinion, Abdoulaye, you're a deep midfield player at best. You're getting too old to be running around like a headless chicken.Good luck, lad. James Marshall 105 Posted 21/05/2025 at 16:44:27 Blah blah – leaving – blah blah blah – love the club – blah blah – give me more money – blah blah blah.There, I saved you all from reading his waffle.I've never felt an affinity for Doucoure at all. He's a shit footballer, useless passer of the ball ,and plays well every now and then. Occasional goals paper over his inadequacy in my view.There's good reason he isn't getting a new deal, and that's that he isn't very good and we can do better.Thanks for the goal that helped keep us up though. I won't miss him. Mike Gaynes 106 Posted 21/05/2025 at 16:57:41 Jonathan #85, perfect summary. Agreed particularly on holding fire on a new striker until we build out the defense and midfield structure we need to feed him. You Minnesota United fans are exceptionally perspicacious!Danny #101, agreed. We may experience a bumpy start to the season as Moyes integrates however many newcomers we have -- a gradual and perhaps frustrating process for sure. Martin Farrington 107 Posted 21/05/2025 at 16:59:03 James @ 105Yup Raymond Fox 108 Posted 21/05/2025 at 17:22:02 I agree with most of Johnathan's post @85. It's all very well saying get rid of this and that player. You then have to find better or at least equal plus probably shelling out plenty of dough as well.We will see which way it goes in due course but it's not a given that we will be better next season. It can go both ways obviously, but Moyes has a wise old head and, for that reason, I think we will do okay.We need 2 or 3 new attacking players that are a notch or two in class above the standard we usually buy. It's very hard to do, as we have proved, but that's what has to happen if we are to get any success. Justin Doone 109 Posted 21/05/2025 at 17:28:52 If he can get a better deal elsewhere,then good luck to him.I thank him, loved his energy, fitness and desire but Everton need to improve with better quality added to the energy. Doucoure just isn't good enough technically or tactically. From a financial point of view, we have managed to lower the wages over the last 3 or 4 seasons and rightly so as we had too many over-paid players that are average to poor Premier League standard. That's why we have been fighting relegation so often along with poor recruitment and managers not up to scratch.With Moyes, we reset. We cannot be held to ransom by players and agents.Lastly, is it just me or does it seem too soon, with the Premier League not yet finished, for all the announcements of who's leaving and new signings that most Premier League clubs have done these last few weeks?I know there's only one Premier League round of games remaining but the transfer window doesn't open for several weeks and there's a few finals to be played. I'm happy to know now, but it seems a little disrespectful. Ian Bennett 110 Posted 21/05/2025 at 17:33:25 The biggest constraint on moving forward, is not having the wage capacity to bring better players in.We have recruited badly, which some if us said at the time, and only now can we move forward and bring in the right type of player.We've been calling for years for some of the squad to go. Thankfully it's happened, get on with it, and don't fuck it up. Andy Duff 111 Posted 21/05/2025 at 18:11:41 Seems Doucoure is unhappy. Andy Duff 112 Posted 21/05/2025 at 18:12:55 A post suggested David Moyes wants to change the Blues squad from "'moments' players to consistent players". It continued: "Doucoure a key example, shows up for big moments but is anonymous and ineffective most weeks."Doucoure replied: "I think if I was so ineffective I [would not] have played most of the games I've played for the club as the starter. So stop this nonsense and telling lies to people." Jonathan Oppenheimer 113 Posted 21/05/2025 at 18:42:39 Paul 96, indeed there are very different kinds of criticism — not equating the extremes — but Id point to a couple comments between yours and this one where the criticisms of Duke are more harsh and mean-spirited than they need to be to make a point. And then its a slippery slope to saying truly awful things.Mike 106, appreciate the compliment, but I dont mingle with many MNUFC fans, because I generally get annoyed with their lack of soccer knowledge and passion for the club. Its why I spend all my time on ToffeeWeb but couldnt tell you what the Loon Web site would be, or if it even exists. But hey, were a top team this year in MLS, just destroyed Messi and company, so maybe things will change. Daniel A Johnson 114 Posted 21/05/2025 at 18:44:23 Interesting that my post was mysteriously edited for no apparent reason and replies to my post deleted.If ToffeeWeb are editing and censoring posts then I'm out.What's the bloody point of having your say when it gets edited. So much for freedom of speech on ToffeeWeb. Ridiculous. Jonathan Oppenheimer 115 Posted 21/05/2025 at 19:03:25 What was the content of your posts, Daniel? Peter Mills 116 Posted 21/05/2025 at 19:41:58 Andy#112, Im not having a go at you, but I find it difficult to think of David Moyes describing a departing player in such terms. Paul Ferry 117 Posted 21/05/2025 at 19:55:11 Me, too, Peter (116). Andy (112) can you provide us with links and/or sources for the words you have put in quotes please? Andy Duff 118 Posted 21/05/2025 at 20:05:37 Abdoulaye Doucoure hits back at claim over David Moyes and Everton exithttps://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/abdoulaye-doucoure-hits-back-claim-31692780#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare Andy Duff 119 Posted 21/05/2025 at 20:08:13 It was in the echo I don't think the quotes are attributed to Moyes rather a claim made that Moyes wanted to and it mentioned him, he then retaliated Peter Mills 120 Posted 21/05/2025 at 20:27:30 Cheers, Andy. It feels like someone is making mischief. Andy Duff 121 Posted 21/05/2025 at 20:35:28 Yea that's what I thought. Sounds like a post he's seen somwhere online he's retaliated to it and the Echo made a story out of it. Kind of made me think he's not happy he is leaving abd thinks he deserved more though. Paul Ferry 122 Posted 21/05/2025 at 21:03:00 Andy 121 - last sentence, spot on. Jim Bennings 123 Posted 21/05/2025 at 22:26:07 Scored some big goals for us but there can be no room anymore for that sentiment.He's been a pretty good signing for what was it, £20 million? I'd say one of the better ones of the last five years in all truth.Never a technically accomplished footballer but goals are a vital commodity in football especially from midfield and we don't get enough of them.Hopefully this summer that lack of goals from central midfield is quickly addressed. Stan Grace 124 Posted 22/05/2025 at 10:00:34 In Rob Sawyer's book on T. G. Jones, the latter recalls a team mate from the 1939 League title side."Stan Bentham wasn't a very good footballer but he'd run forever. He did the donkey work for everyone - he could run all day long."(page 50 hardback edition)Seems we could say the same about Mr Doucouré. Dave Abrahams 125 Posted 22/05/2025 at 10:22:10 Stan (124), I remember Stan Bentham playing for the reserve team after the war—right half if Im not mistaken but dont remember his particular style although Ill go along with TG Joness comment and your own about Stan Bentham and Doucoure with the one huge difference Stan, who stayed with Everton for a long time as a trainer and coach and truly loved Everton, did it for £14 per week, £12 in the summer while Doucoure did it for a whole lot more during his six years at the club. Stan Grace 126 Posted 22/05/2025 at 10:26:31 Can't argue with that point, Dave.But can admire your memory on these matters! Dave Abrahams 127 Posted 22/05/2025 at 10:34:04 Stan (126), Cheers Stan. Michael Coville 128 Posted 23/05/2025 at 01:42:51 The club needs to lower the average age of the squad and also lower the wage bill. Doucoure has been a reasonably good and definitely a dedicated member of the team but at his age and with the increase in salary that he demands the club is doing the correct thing in letting him go. Hopefully gone are the days of ridiculously elevated contracts (wages and number of seasons) for average and/or players who are nearing the end of their careers. This summer will be interesting, I can't wait to see who we recruit, hopefully it will end in a squad that we will be proud of and which can give us the opportunity to compete for trophies. I was at the 1995 cup win at Wembley as a relatively young man at 55, my kids are now older than that. Now I am an old fart who can only dream for more of the same. Gavin McGarvey 129 Posted 24/05/2025 at 10:09:38 Hmmm, whilst I agree that we need to reshape the squad, I always feel nervous when we let go of players that score goals. We have in general lacked them, and Doucoure's goals have been valuable. There will be a lot of changes this summer, and we have to hope we get things right. Moyes has a mixed record in the transfer market. We need a good summer from him. Fingers crossed. Regarding money and Doucoure. He's not a local lad and he's getting on in footballer terms (maybe two or three good years left?), so this will probably be his last big contract. I can see why he would be reluctant to take a pay cut especially if other clubs are offering to match his salary. From our point of view, his salary is a large part of the wage bill, and if we are to bring in players we'll need money for wages to do so. Obviously, there are risks with letting established talents go, whilst bringing in new unproven players. Let's hope this gamble goes our way. And good luck to Doucoure, it would be difficult to argue that he hasn't done a good job at the club. 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