The De Boer twins in their playing days for Ajax KLUITERS/OUDENAARDEN/AFP/Getty Images
The younger of the Dutch twins is leaving Ajax after six years in charge of the Dutch giants and is looking for his next opportunity, having been linked with roles in the Premier League before.
Having led Ajax to four successive Dutch titles, De Boer has been considered by Liverpool, Tottenham and Newcastle over the past couple of years but this is the first time he has been free to take any job offered to him.
Ronald says that his brother hasn't yet spoken with Everton but admits that Frank would jump at the chance to manage in England. A potential opening for him at Valencia has now been filled leaving the Toffees as the highest profile job available for De Boer to take his next managerial step.
“Frank is keen,” the elder De Boer told the Liverpool Echo. “If he has a chance to be in the Premier League, then he will want to take it.
“Everton are a big club and it would be a challenge, but I know for sure he would take the job if offered. But that's up to the management at Everton. He is probably on their list.
“He has to wait and see what the management does at the club, but I hope he will get the job.
“Frank is more than capable of managing at a club like Everton in the Premier League. As a player and a manager, he has enough experience. But he hasn't spoken to Everton.”
Elsewhere, a reported candidate for the Goodison hot-seat, Swiss coach Lucien Favre, has been unveiled as Nice's new manager, ruling him out of the running.
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1 Posted 24/05/2016 at 16:55:16
2 Posted 24/05/2016 at 16:59:45
Once thats done and dusted he's free to do what he wants which includes coming to Everton FC for an interview if short listed.
3 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:03:28
4 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:04:37
I just showed the Koeman rumour to my son, I said to him this has just been put up, then I look again and here's another one. When will it all end?
5 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:04:47
6 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:05:05
7 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:07:29
8 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:08:40
10 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:11:06
11 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:17:34
13 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:33:45
14 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:33:49
15 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:34:33
16 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:38:11
17 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:40:12
18 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:43:41
19 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:44:33
20 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:46:41
Don't like it.
21 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:56:41
22 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:01:55
You expected him here this week, does this still ring true?
I can't bear the thought of Moyes again!
23 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:02:56
24 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:06:15
Lets hope De Boer don't end up at Watford and we get Moyes but would anyone be suprised.
25 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:24:40
26 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:34:27
None of them would leave me feeling disappointed, although the order of preference shifts according to what I happen to be reading at the time.
One candidate, however, does stand apart for me and just the sight of his name gets a fool blooded reaction from me:
david "Dreary MacDreary" Moyes
But with Kenwright still deep in bromance, I have this chilling feeling.........
Please, please, a BILLION times Farhad, exclude this most unambitious failure.
27 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:34:54
Out of the two, I'm more inclined towards FDB but as they say, ABM!!!
28 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:36:38
29 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:16
30 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:21
I see Bielsa's drifted and Flores has come up quickly.
31 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:39
Everyone needs to just relax. We will get it right and FDB is the right man for us.
32 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:43:44
33 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:50:23
The football both teams played was sublime and innovative and they (Villareal) were worthy winners, Colina or not, when they played us. As for his time with City? Well league and cup winners which ain't bad for a "pub team manager". Yes, I know he had millions to spend but, unlike his previous clubs, he didn't choose which players city bought.
If, and it's a big if, Pellegrini takes over at Goodison rest assured that we will have an excellent manager who will do his talking on the pitch. Let the rs and the two manc teams have their sideline clowns, I'll be more than happy with our "pub team manager".
34 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:57:19
35 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:02:05
Be a few players with their noses out of joint. Great team harmony.
36 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:09:39
37 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:25:52
38 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:27:17
39 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:29:21
I find myself defending him but I'd be just as happy with De Boer or Emery, I just think some of the comments on here about him are quite disrespectful and unfair.
Ask yourself this- if Pellegrini is so shite, then why did 'moneybags' Man City give him their managers job in the first place?
I think we could do alot worse than Pellegrini.
40 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:30:12
41 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:31:29
42 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:33:41
43 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:33:45
44 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:44:30
45 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:44:49
47 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:55:18
And that might encourage one or two expensive players to then sign up.
So, as I've said before, the board (and please God Mr Moshiri really does have football nouse) need to get the right manager. The next 20 years could be dependent on it, unlike when the Catalan Clown was appointed.
48 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:59:01
If Watford and Liverpool can get their man in quick why are we stalling?
With so many of our players looking away it would be good to send them to the Euros with the knowledge of who's in charge.
I believe the club don't have a clue who they want. Hence the Moyes news..............it could very well happen.
50 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:00:50
51 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:09:25
52 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:13:12
Frank de Boer as always been my first choice and I don't mind Koeman or Emery either and if it was one from those four then I'd be more than happy and positive that one of these would be able to kick us on.
53 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:16:38
54 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:18:52
55 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:27:10
56 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:28:21
1) gets the team to be more than the sum of the parts (which to be fair Moyes always did),
2) has the immediate respect of the players,
3) can attract new players,
4) buys well,
5) gives youth a chance
6) brings a good coaching team
7) is a winner
FDB and Koeman would attract new players with their reputation as players, Koeman has bought OK at saints but questionable earlier career, not sure about FDB. both have brought in young players, FDB probably edges it here. If FDB brought Bergkamp and/or Stam I imagine Barkley/Stones/Lukaku would possibly stay longer.
Added to that his obvious enthusiasm for the job, it's FDB for me. Proven winner as player and manager, and he turned down the neighbours.
57 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:42:08
58 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:44:45
I'm of the same opinion as Paul Tran that we should wait and see. Nothing was said about RM despite all kinds of hysteria on here but he was sacked. I'd rather do things quietly than be like Man UTD and have our new manager find out he got the job when his wife reads it in the paper.
59 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:07:45
60 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:11:39
Let's get him in.
61 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:31:49
62 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:41:58
It took Manchester United 48-hours to sack Van Gal, and start negotiating Mourinho's contract. So, sound preparation and planning sees United ensuring minimal leadership vacuum. As a case study in how to replace a manager who was obviously going for months, top marks to United.
What about us and our replacement of a manager who for months was obviously on the way out? Well, nearly three-weeks later after he was potted, we still have no appointment. Just 'short lists' and a power vacuum. Great. It's the exact opposite of United.
What on earth was going on in the Board room these past months? Is 'succession planning' a mystery to our leaders?
The overall result? Well, right now a certain Portuguese manager is well ahead on his planning for raiding our squad of one, perhaps two players. And us? Well, we're finalising the short list before interviews commence. Maybe Jimmy Martin can spare an hour to convince Stones, Seamus, Ross' and Rom of our exciting plans for the future.
It's starting to become a bloody scandal.
63 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:02:18
Yes it is!!!
64 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:05:45
Oh no it isn't. Technically still the Champions League final. :) so all eyes on Zidane and Simeone. They are up for interview next week.
65 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:27:21
Here are some facts:
Dutch Uefa Coefficient: 35.5
Scottish Uefa Coefficient: 17.3
Dutch TV Deal 63m per year
Scottish TV Deal 15m per year
The Scottish league is far inferior to the Dutch league in terms of Uefa standings and Revenue, that is a fact. It could also be argued that the Dutch league is miles ahead of Scotland in terms of Tactics, Technical ability of players & youth player development.
My 2 cents, FDB would be a good choice as would Koeman, Emery or even Pellegrini. Just please not a return to Moyes KITAP1.
66 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:27:52
He edges Koeman and while Emery looks great, the away form in La Liga worries me, albeit slightly. Pellegrini would not be a disaster but is fourth on my list. Moyes I wish him all the best, but no thanks, and as for Hughes, O'Neill, Howe etc... Well, we need to realise that we are moving forward with new investment, and we can aim higher than we might have done a few years ago.
As for Benitez (or the FSW) never in a million years, despite his obvious ability). The 'small club' comment has a real mistake on his part and sadly one he cannot return from.
FDB for me - sure it is a risk - but let's give it a bit of 'Carpe Diem' to go with our NSNO!
67 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:38:28
Need to sort this out quickly before the genuine talent has been snapped up and we are left with a choice between Moyes, Howe, Hughes and Dyche.
68 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:44:13
69 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:47:49
By the way, WHEN do you think appointing a manager might be important?
70 Posted 24/05/2016 at 00:01:14
Quick tip. When you ring up Everton, just ask "Is Mr Kenwright available?". If they say "Yes", just say "That's fine, I'll call back later, thanks."
71 Posted 25/05/2016 at 01:03:17
He won the Premier League!
72 Posted 25/05/2016 at 01:32:21
74 Posted 25/05/2016 at 04:20:44
When is Champions League Final as I'm still hoping, as delusional as I am, for Simeone, there has to be some reason for the delay.
As for De Boer, would someone advise our Board about e-mails, texts and Agents as it won't matter if he's in Holland, China or the South Pole. Unless of course we're using the "stop at a winner" system, in which case those interviewed can be ruled out and those who've found other employment have ruled themselves out.
75 Posted 25/05/2016 at 04:50:37
76 Posted 25/05/2016 at 05:35:34
77 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:04:19
78 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:11:44
2013 odds for next manager - BK majority SH
2016 odds for next manager - FM majority SH
De Boer 4/1
With the ground move now looking likely thanks for Moshiri's guidance and business knowledge, I feel that he will choose wisely. Especially with the fact that his Everton 'business' venture needs a manager who can be trusted with the keys to his war chest. In Moshiri we trust.
79 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:33:33
In the "No, not for me" category:
David Moyes, Eddie Howe, Mark Hughes, Andre Villas-Boas, Sean Dyche, Alan Stubbs, Martin O'Neill, Quique Sanchez Flores
In the "Aiming high" category:
Jose Mourinho, Ronald Koeman, Unai Emery
In the "I believe to be fictitious media rumours" category:
Marcelo Biesla, Jurgen Klinsmann, Roberto Mancini, Michael Laudrup, Joachim Low, Mark Warburton, Rafa Benitez
In the "Likely candidates because they're currently available" category:
Manuel Pellegrini, Frank de Boer
The wild card
I do believe Ronald Koeman was top on the list, but unless there's problems behind the scenes at Southampton, I can't see him leaving the club. Unai Emery has an impressive record, but only really with Sevilla, which if you take away the Europa League it's not that impressive. I liked the idea of believing Jose Mourinho was a vlid option, as it gave me the feeling the club was aiming high for once.
80 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:55:13
Frank de Boer really seems to want the job, I think we should give him a shot.
81 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:02:52
Or Korean. But I prefer to see De Boer come over and being his Dutch colleagues.
Pellegrini... Too old, wants to stay in the northwest. Is that a reason to employ someone?
Go Dutch or Unsy for me. ABM.
82 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:03:41
It would not be quite so exciting to appoint him rather than a new kid on the block like DB, but with his know how it would be the safe option.
Pellegrini knows the Premier League, is aware of football matters in Latin America, and has a proven track record in Spain.
DB has done well in the Eredivisie but what does that mean?
83 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:32:04
Moshiri will be aware that Moyes isn't a popular choice so I think that rules him out. I'm warming to the idea of Pellegrini. I'm hoping that when Ronald de Boer said that his brother hadn't spoken to Everton he meant that he hadn't been interviewed yet, rather than we hadn't made any contact at all. That would be worrying.
84 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:45:59
This means we are the highest profile job available (assuming Jose to Utd is a done deal). We now hold all the cards!
Instead of begging a manager to come to us, we should now see a few cvs begging us to give them the job.
We can now pick and choose.
85 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:48:10
Before Sevilla, he finished 3rd back to back with Valencia, despite his best players (Villa and Silva) being sold. Before Valencia, he was at Almeria, which he managed to get in to the Primera Division for the first time in their existence and in their first season, finished 8th, their highest ranking as to date. And before that, he managed tiny club Lorca, with whom he gained promotion to the second highest league for the first time in their history and the next season, they finished 5th, their highest ranking ever.
He has done exceptionally well at every club he managed. But all these clubs are in Spain, and that's the risk. To add on this, I am omitting his only period outside Spain, which was at Spartak Moscow. He was fired there within months because they were mid-table... And to be fair on him, Spartak never pulled back since then and are a mid-table team, so it is questionable if this was his fault anyway.
87 Posted 25/05/2016 at 09:45:08
I would like to see Blind at Everton but aren't you being a bit short sighted thinking he will leave MU.?
88 Posted 25/05/2016 at 10:36:16
89 Posted 25/05/2016 at 10:39:08
A professional application from , or indeed approach to, the right credible person will do nicely, thank you.
(Simeone next week anyone?)
90 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:04:37
Unlikely, but I'm trying to be optimistic.
"Nothing will be the same" ?
91 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:08:15
Always has been and it was never going to be anyone else! Only delay was his end of season trip to China with Ajax.
Rumours have it he is in London with his brother finalising things.
92 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:16:13
So it looks as if its between FDB or Pellegrini or Moyes.
Well I certainly don't want Pellegrini with his hang dog look and his droning voice. He had unlimited money at City and Mancini had left him with his 2 best players Aguero and Silva. He managed to win the league with the last kick of the season and this year got into 4th place on goal difference. He would probably bring with him Demichelis to replace Stones and his trusty winger no goal Navas.
So its either FDB or Moyes, and I know its massively unpopular but I would choose Moyes all day long. I always say never go back but if we are left with the choice of the 3 I have mentioned then I would have him back.
93 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:24:37
94 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:27:04
95 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:27:24
96 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:29:16
Well, think back to the pivotal week of the derby and semi-final, and think how much that hurt! Back then, we would have had literally anybody else.
I do like the idea of FdB because he seems to have an energy about him that I think we didn't have under our last manager (not difficult, I guess). People are saying that he has no Premier League experience which is a good point, but spin that round a different approach could be what we need. Last season we were so obvious in our "Premier League" ways, it was frightening.
For me, either of those two would bring very different managerial styles to Everton and I'd be happy with either. Lets not mention Mr Moyes just yet though, right... right?!?
97 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:37:46
I think Navas has scored 4 in 99 games.
98 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:58:18
99 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:02:59
100 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:08:47
So - just to add to it (:)) - I see that Jose Mourinho is still not officially the Man U manager yet.
Maybe this is because we secretly have spoken to him.
We've offered him big money and transfer funds; shown him the plans for our shiny new dockside arena and the new pie and pint half time offer.
He realises that we are a sleeping giant and also have a 100% winning record in European finals (unlike some - snigger).
Man Utd's offer just isn't doing it for him by comparison ...
Right now, he's scratching his chin, weighing all this up in the OT boardroom and the thought running through his head is, and the Blues are a better class of fan as well. I can't stand Mancs. Scuffy, ugly, gets. I think it is clear, Jose, that the future is bright and blue. I'll look good in that new kit. Of course, I'll look good in any kit but...
101 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:24:42
102 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:30:38
The days of managerial dynasties are all but gone. IF we get someone who wins us a trophy or two over the next 4-5 years and leaves us as Champions Leeague qualifiers (at least once), then that would be an unequivocal success. It would also leave us in a far better position to find his successor who may be younger, but also (and more crucially) out of our reach currently. Who knows... by then we may be able to attract the likes of Simeone and Mourinho.
With that in mind, I don't have a problem with Pellegrini. His record with clubs operating below elite level is exceptional (domestically and in Europe). He also has Premier League winning experience. I think he could be the "safest" bet and an excellent choice of manager to begin the rebuilding job.
103 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:40:08
De Boer, big gamble, he's won nothing during the last 2 years with the biggest team in one of the weakest leagues in Europe. Hardly inspiring stuff. Similarities to Martinez's possession style are also a big red flag.
Koeman, a mixed bag, touted for bigger things but then so was Martinez not so long ago and look how that turned out. Europa finish with Southampton yet won nothing. How is that any improvement on Moyes's achievements with us? His team were also taken apart by us under Martinez early in the season and even in the return fixture they could not beat us when we were in mutinous free fall. The question should be is Koeman really good enough for us not the other way round!
So what does that leave you with? Well in my opinion we want a proven winner and if you look at Mancini and Pellegrini they have the 4th and 5th best win ratio in the EPL, behind only Sir Alex, Mourinho and Ancelotti. That cannot be ignored, Mancini would be my preference but Pellegrini is a good option with Bielsa an exciting wildcard.
104 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:48:04
I'd take that anyday to another Martinez or Moyes type appointment whereby we're basically allowing them to train as a manager and neither played at the top level under some of the games best managers. Someone like FdB and Koeman would also immediately raise the profile of the club and command respect from the players.
Whether it works or not is one for the future but I want us to at least appoint a 'Name' in footballing terms and make a statement that we're serious about moving forward rather than just staying in the league and maybe scratching the EL places.
105 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:50:52
Is he kidding? People have a low opinion of our club. I was going to say ex-players but then I realised that I'm talking about Andy Gray. He is an exception and shouldn't be counted. It is sad though that people look at us and think, Well, Moyes would be a good choice because he could get us into 6th place."
Kenwright and his low ceiling has really brought us down.
106 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:56:15
(Is there a cooling-off period?)
107 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:07:50
He didn't really produce enough in his time at City with the resources available and clearly is in the Martinez school of poor defence management.
108 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:27:08
I will say this though oh how I would love to be writing about Everton and Champions League Semi Finals.
109 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:31:26
We need someone that wants to make us bigger and return us to our rightful place. Perhaps he's the one?
110 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:34:36
City lost to Real, arguably the 2nd best team in the world. Hardly a hanging offence. Plus how many Champions League semi-finals has Moyes ever reached?
111 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:34:47
112 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:37:56
113 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:48:45
I'll be hiding behind my office chair, and in the interest of full disclosure I'm for FdB or Pellegrini.
114 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:53:09
115 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:00:37
Throw in a cup to keep us fans happy, a few eyebrow raising signings to get the club a higher profile across Europe and then say three years later we might be a better proposition to the elite managers.
Saying that if Moshiri springs Simeone on us, out of the blue, I'd be over the moon ha ha! All former managers need not apply. No offence Joe Royle!
116 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:03:05
Look at his big-money signings at Everton: Bily, Wright (shame it wasn't Billy Wright), Beattie. Yak and Johnson started okay until he turned them into wingers. Heitinga, a CB on huge wages, played at RB or CM.
117 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:04:34
Personally I think the Moyes talk is a nonsense, that will never happen as long as Moshiri is around despite Bill.
Also reading about Giggs this morning too really?
As for the gripe about no Premier League experience so what? It's still 22 blokes kicking a football about.
118 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:06:38
119 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:07:54
120 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:10:21
121 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:11:56
As Phil says above, it's surely a 2-horse race between Pellegrini and de Boer now - and I'll be happy with either.
122 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:16:06
Also have you got that minging birds number? ....hold on though, she doesn't look like Moyes does she?
123 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:25:15
124 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:26:46
126 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:29:00
(Moyes also broke our transfer record 3 times so he didn't exactly have pennies to spend, whilst himself being paid £4m a year during his last 5 years with us!)
127 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:38:10
128 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:39:14
There are plenty of valid complaints about Moyes. But trying to say he had money to spend, sorry, no. The financial situation of the club during his tenure was completely different from today and he was not given money to spend.
129 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:42:35
NO "The Guardian", has not listed Giggs as the next Everton manager, infact, the article is –a bloody good laugh at crap journo's.
Have a look here:
131 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:52:10
Appointing Moyes would be a huge step back, however, I guess I remember Moyes tenure in charge a little different to those that see it as a huge disaster.
133 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:13:05
I agree, and why are we so slow in everything we do at board level? Koeman, Emery... Why are we chasing ghosts?
We knew that Martinez was gone months ago so why are we only now 'comparing the market.com.'
And why have the club not squashed the Moyes rumours. Moyes had a lot of money, high profile players and the Champions League... and failed miserably at United! He chokes when forced to play big so why entertain his dithering ego when we have an opportunity to 'play big!'
Pellegrini is a world class manager who has won the Premiership, among other trophies but some would have you believe that he isn't good enough because his hair is grey!? or He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?
City murdered us in the League cup, qualified for the Champions League reached the semi final in said cup and would have won the Premiership had the manager not been compromised by his board.
Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich. He is a major step up for a team seen by many to be living in the (30 year) distant past.
Pellegrini is settled, has a reason to prove a point, likely to stay loyal and capable of taking us 'ALL THE WAY!' Why is this so hard!?
Transfer activity has started. High profile players and managers have other high profile offers. We need to get a move on and install him or a like for like before opportunities are lost.
134 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:19:20
135 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:23:30
136 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:26:21
I agree it's frustrating having to wait for news and how I long for the days when we could put the ball away for a few weeks during the close-season.
137 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:38:02
138 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:43:50
For me, not wanting him has nothing to do with this age. It's to do with his abilities, which certainly fall far below "world class".
139 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:52:10
140 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:02:04
Btw I hope we sign him and soon before he gets the hump at our indecision seeing as how he has made it clear he wants to join.
141 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:08:15
142 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:13:04
All due respect, but you just confirmed my post.
and I quote from earlier...
"He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?"
Silly comments of people not doing any research or not even reading posts before commenting.
Now I guess you are about to go away and read up on something, so that you can write up on something to justify the silly post.
Personally I wouldn't bother, but... over to you.
144 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:24:13
Let it go mate. Just take a breath, walk away and learn from your defeat. Otherwise, you're emulating our recently dismissed manager.
145 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:32:09
146 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:59:48
147 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:08:56
As for Koeman, even if he deemed to come to EFC it would not be for long as he wants to go abroad.
I think it will be De Boer, he has expressed an interest and is keen.
Failing that Unsworth and Joe Royle for the first season.
148 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:08:57
Neville leaving Valencia; Moyes turning down the Villa job and not wanting the Celtic job. Each of our fancied managers (at least on TW) are slowly being taken up; Favre (Nice); Emery staying; Koeman staying; Mourinho going head to head with Chelsea for Stones; Chelsea refusing to give into EFC's asking price of £65m for Rom we are slipping down the pecking order here.
Players are already being touted about and we still do not have a manager not even a "solid rumour" if there is such a thing! Getting worried now in case it is Moyes...
I might just go over to Holland, pick up De Boer and stick him in front of Kenwright & Moshiri "He wants the fucking job, give it to him"!
Paranoia me? No chance.
149 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:12:35
150 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:13:58
151 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:16:38
I think he did very well with the way he handled things and kept Man City in the top 4 and the Champions League Semi-Final considering he was told he was being replaced at the start of the season and therefore had no real authority over the players any more. He also beat Klopp at Wembley, don't forget, in the Cup Final.
He's based in the area and is available / out of contract. It's a no-brainer for me. Koeman doesn't want to come, and De Boer is a risk.
Underneath the calm grey exterior of Pellgrini is a bloody good manager.
152 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:49:52
I would take exception to:
Citeh murdered us in the semi-final, at the time time everyone was giving us a beating. Did you watch the Real Madrid Game? Not one shot on target registered by them on the night
Also,, he had ٞ.5 BILLION worth players at his disposal and scraped 4th and the Capital One Cup.
So please don't accuse others of not doing research if you just post "Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich." Because that tells me fuck all. (Oh and my hair is really grey.)
153 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:51:22
He'd have money to spend at Everton and has already won the Premier League and both cups. Think about it.
154 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:59:14
I for one will not set foot in Goodison again if he comes back. What a bunch of fuckin gobshites we have running our club. Needs a bloody good clear-out.
156 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:03:39
157 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:21:01
158 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:26:37
I'm not against (new) foreign managers per se but Pellegrini already knows our players and would fit in seamlessly whereas a new manager (to the league) would need time to adapt.
159 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:35:17
160 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:40:41
Roberto Di Matteo's trophy cabinet beats his.
After all, Pellegrini only got his hand on a Premier League title because of Gerrard's slip.
He has handled rich owners money for many years now. He's definitely the easy, uninspiring, safe appointment.
161 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:42:01
162 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:42:08
163 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:04:37
I don't know about Pellegrini now. He was my 3rd choice a few weeks back but it's alarming how City capitulated towards the end of last season.
I know the announcement of Guardiola's arrival is mitigation. But that all said, the City players didn't seem to go beyond a canter in the semi final of the champions league. If you aren't going to be on your A-game for a game like that, when are you?!
He's also spent a hell of a lot of money and while he'd have a lot of money to spend for us, it will still be short of the money he's been used to at City and Real Madrid. A club where he also won nothing. I know he did well at Villarreal on a relatively small budget but that was about a decade ago.
I agree that he's looking the likely name because he lives in the area, will be available and apparently wants the job.
He's definitely a good manager. He just seems a little too safe. Nothing wrong with that. I can just see a bigger pay off from getting someone like De Boer, or Bielsa in, even though there's more risk. But if it has to be safe pair of hands. Give me Pellegrini over David Moyes.
164 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:09:57
In all seriousness keeping a star studded side in the top four isn't as easy as it looks. Just ask LVG, Mourinho or even Wenger. Pellegrini has done that (along with winning it). He knew he was losing his job months ago and still managed it. Don't get me wrong I think City could and maybe should have achieved more but I'd settle for what he won there in the last three years.
165 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:26:29
166 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:30:40
Still don't get it but, as I said earlier, I'm in favour of Frank de Boer.
167 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:38:18
If we have to go down the sensible route I think I'm edging towards AVB who did a decent job under difficult circumstances at Spurs without little thanks. He wasn't spectacular but he's young and has something to prove.
De Boer if we have to go for a league unknown.
168 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:46:22
169 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:53:54
I guess the fact people are reluctant to trust a coach who's won every domestic honour in England (and very recently) - with the Everton job. Is a great indicator of how far we've come.
170 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:54:33
171 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:03:13
This guy might be soft spoken but he's no mug.
172 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:05:39
I'd forgotten about Mancini. He could be worth a shout.
173 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:10:40
174 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:15:48
Tbh, I've never really warmed to the guy. I find him to be mardy bugger like Wenger when he loses. I guess it would be an improvement on losing by 2 or 3 goals and everything being rosey in the garden though.
175 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:23:37
176 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:27:01
Pelligrini - I want to back but I think he is on downward slope now in career. Their are 9 clubs who are going spend big this season adding to better sides than us. So application, team spirit is going to be important for us... Peligrini is not that sort of manager imho.
Need someone with fire in the belly. FDB is young and had a great playing career, give this man the job....wanting to manage us + ambition + Elite club playing career + served apprenticeship... THIS is a great combination for a manager to have. NSNO
177 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:30:08
One is the young(ish) pretender: a respected and successful former player and a multiple title winner of the Dutch league in his first managerial stint. Now seeking a new challenge, available, and making it clear he fancies the job.
The other is the elder statesman: a manager in several countries included a stint as boss of Real Madrid. Three years managing in the PL garnered him a title win and two league cups. Also plenty of European football experience. Also available.
To me, either is a step up. That said, either is a risk as is any managerial appointment.
Funnily enough I was excited when I first heard rumours of the former but as we get closer to a decision I find myself more and more drawn to the experience and stability of the latter.
Whichever it is, I'll be praying to the footballing gods that we have finally found the right man to lead us out of the footballing wilderness and back to the summit of domestic and European glory. Ok, ok, I got a bit carried away with the last bit......
178 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:38:51
Agree that Pellegrini isn't the perfect candidate, but I don't think there is such a thing. I also don't believe the guy we appoint now is necessarily the man who leads us to Champions League glory. First things first - let's qualify for it and win some domestic silverware in the meantime. Pellegrini's track record suggests both objectives are within his power.
179 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:43:03
My response to our actual appointment (in order of disappointment) will be categorised as follows:
1) Jubilation bordering upon disbelief.
3) l need serious persuasion, and fast.
4) Why ? Why ? Why ?
5) Riots in L4 4EL.
6) Sweet baby judas, not Moyes !
Betwixt levels 3 and 4 my pitchfork ignites !
Level 5 I activate my "Lord Summer Isle" Special moves.
Level 6 I wee in Moshiri's shoes.
180 Posted 25/05/2016 at 21:34:39
181 Posted 25/05/2016 at 21:44:50
182 Posted 25/05/2016 at 22:00:20
My one concern about Pellegrini is that on a fitness level, many City fans had the same complaints about their players, as we did with ours. They felt they weren't fit enough during games and this caused the wide ranging injuries they had all season.
183 Posted 25/05/2016 at 22:05:40
Many thanks for the support my friends. Looks like the North West is landing all the best football managers for next season (including a very interesting appointment at Everton)! This is the region everyone will be watching.
Flooded with comments she goes on to say that they know who the next Everton manager is but can't divulge as yet, but she has said it's not Moyes. This was posted yesterday and am amazed it's not gone too far on the web as yet. Link here and scroll down a bit:
184 Posted 25/05/2016 at 23:15:52
185 Posted 26/05/2016 at 02:50:53
186 Posted 26/05/2016 at 03:12:39
Thanks for that Neil. I hadn't had a sniff of this.
Intriguing, teasing, or a journo trying to make out they know more than they actually do?
187 Posted 26/05/2016 at 10:49:26
That is a very compelling idea !
Bloody hell !
Someone at L4 4EL get this lad on the payroll !
188 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:08:33
Just read that Neil, thanks for the heads up on it.
If...and it's a big IF, the club HAS got someone already it may explain the total silence and lack of concrete info on who's been interviewed etc.
Have to say though this is like being an 8 year old waiting for Christmas to come and worrying that it might never!!
189 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:44:35
Imagine if it got announced who the new manager was at the Tony Bellew fight! A bit of high end dramatic entrance Kenwright style, loads of limelight for him?
191 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:55:03
193 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:02:01
Don't shoot the messenger but looks like it could be him......could also be rubbish too.
194 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:02:59
The team to be built and qualified for Champions League to coincide with the opening of the new waterfront stadium in three years time.
Well that's what I was told!!
195 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:08:02
200 Posted 26/05/2016 at 13:00:28
Myself and others have already stated numerous times that the article for which you have spotted the headline and then clasped your fainting wrist to your forehead as you collapse "Kenwrightly" to the floor does not suggest that Giggsy is a nailed on. Quite the reverse !
Read the bloody article, it's taking the piss out of shit journo's mate.
Read it ! ('Cos you clearly haven't so far).
201 Posted 26/05/2016 at 13:00:38
All the rest have been paper speculation.
Absolutely astounded about no approach for De Boer.
204 Posted 26/05/2016 at 19:01:57
205 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:27:09
Although you'd probably want me out at Christmas, despite my win at Anfield.
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