De Boer 'would take Everton job' if offered

Once thats done and dusted he's free to do what he wants which includes coming to Everton FC for an interview if short listed.

You expected him here this week, does this still ring true?
I can't bear the thought of Moyes again!

Lets hope De Boer don't end up at Watford and we get Moyes but would anyone be suprised.

None of them would leave me feeling disappointed, although the order of preference shifts according to what I happen to be reading at the time.

One candidate, however, does stand apart for me and just the sight of his name gets a fool blooded reaction from me:
david "Dreary MacDreary" Moyes

But with Kenwright still deep in bromance, I have this chilling feeling.........
Please, please, a BILLION times Farhad, exclude this most unambitious failure.

Out of the two, I'm more inclined towards FDB but as they say, ABM!!!

I see Bielsa's drifted and Flores has come up quickly.

The football both teams played was sublime and innovative and they (Villareal) were worthy winners, Colina or not, when they played us. As for his time with City? Well league and cup winners which ain't bad for a "pub team manager". Yes, I know he had millions to spend but, unlike his previous clubs, he didn't choose which players city bought.

If, and it's a big if, Pellegrini takes over at Goodison rest assured that we will have an excellent manager who will do his talking on the pitch. Let the rs and the two manc teams have their sideline clowns, I'll be more than happy with our "pub team manager".

Be a few players with their noses out of joint. Great team harmony.

I find myself defending him but I'd be just as happy with De Boer or Emery, I just think some of the comments on here about him are quite disrespectful and unfair.

Ask yourself this- if Pellegrini is so shite, then why did 'moneybags' Man City give him their managers job in the first place?

I think we could do alot worse than Pellegrini.

And that might encourage one or two expensive players to then sign up.

So, as I've said before, the board (and please God Mr Moshiri really does have football nouse) need to get the right manager. The next 20 years could be dependent on it, unlike when the Catalan Clown was appointed.

If Watford and Liverpool can get their man in quick why are we stalling?

With so many of our players looking away it would be good to send them to the Euros with the knowledge of who's in charge.

I believe the club don't have a clue who they want. Hence the Moyes news..............it could very well happen.

Frank de Boer as always been my first choice and I don't mind Koeman or Emery either and if it was one from those four then I'd be more than happy and positive that one of these would be able to kick us on.

I'm of the same opinion as Paul Tran that we should wait and see. Nothing was said about RM despite all kinds of hysteria on here but he was sacked. I'd rather do things quietly than be like Man UTD and have our new manager find out he got the job when his wife reads it in the paper.

Let's get him in.

It took Manchester United 48-hours to sack Van Gal, and start negotiating Mourinho's contract. So, sound preparation and planning sees United ensuring minimal leadership vacuum. As a case study in how to replace a manager who was obviously going for months, top marks to United.

What about us and our replacement of a manager who – for months – was obviously on the way out? Well, nearly three-weeks later after he was potted, we still have no appointment. Just 'short lists' and a power vacuum. Great. It's the exact opposite of United.

What on earth was going on in the Board room these past months? Is 'succession planning' a mystery to our leaders?

The overall result? Well, right now a certain Portuguese manager is well ahead on his planning for raiding our squad of one, perhaps two players. And us? Well, we're finalising the short list before interviews commence. Maybe Jimmy Martin can spare an hour to convince Stones, Seamus, Ross' and Rom of our exciting plans for the future.

It's starting to become a bloody scandal.

Yes it is!!!

Oh no it isn't. Technically still the Champions League final. :) so all eyes on Zidane and Simeone. They are up for interview next week.

Dutch Uefa Coefficient: 35.5
Scottish Uefa Coefficient: 17.3
Dutch TV Deal €63m per year
Scottish TV Deal €15m per year

The Scottish league is far inferior to the Dutch league in terms of Uefa standings and Revenue, that is a fact. It could also be argued that the Dutch league is miles ahead of Scotland in terms of Tactics, Technical ability of players & youth player development.

My 2 cents, FDB would be a good choice as would Koeman, Emery or even Pellegrini. Just please not a return to Moyes KITAP1.

He edges Koeman and while Emery looks great, the away form in La Liga worries me, albeit slightly. Pellegrini would not be a disaster – but is fourth on my list. Moyes – I wish him all the best, but no thanks, and as for Hughes, O'Neill, Howe etc... Well, we need to realise that we are moving forward with new investment, and we can aim higher than we might have done a few years ago.

As for Benitez (or the FSW) – never in a million years, despite his obvious ability). The 'small club' comment has a real mistake on his part – and sadly one he cannot return from.

FDB for me - sure it is a risk - but let's give it a bit of 'Carpe Diem' to go with our NSNO!

Need to sort this out quickly before the genuine talent has been snapped up and we are left with a choice between Moyes, Howe, Hughes and Dyche.

By the way, WHEN do you think appointing a manager might be important?

Quick tip. When you ring up Everton, just ask "Is Mr Kenwright available?". If they say "Yes", just say "That's fine, I'll call back later, thanks."

He won the Premier League!

2013 odds for next manager - BK majority SH
Martinez 7/4
Lennon 3/1
Neville 6/1
Mackay 8/1

2016 odds for next manager - FM majority SH
Pellegrini 7/4
Emery 5/2
De Boer 4/1
Koeman 5/1

With the ground move now looking likely thanks for Moshiri's guidance and business knowledge, I feel that he will choose wisely. Especially with the fact that his Everton 'business' venture needs a manager who can be trusted with the keys to his war chest. In Moshiri we trust.

In the "No, not for me" category:
David Moyes, Eddie Howe, Mark Hughes, Andre Villas-Boas, Sean Dyche, Alan Stubbs, Martin O'Neill, Quique Sanchez Flores

In the "Aiming high" category:
Jose Mourinho, Ronald Koeman, Unai Emery

In the "I believe to be fictitious media rumours" category:
Marcelo Biesla, Jurgen Klinsmann, Roberto Mancini, Michael Laudrup, Joachim Low, Mark Warburton, Rafa Benitez

In the "Likely candidates because they're currently available" category:
Manuel Pellegrini, Frank de Boer

The wild card
Lucien Favre

I do believe Ronald Koeman was top on the list, but unless there's problems behind the scenes at Southampton, I can't see him leaving the club. Unai Emery has an impressive record, but only really with Sevilla, which if you take away the Europa League it's not that impressive. I liked the idea of believing Jose Mourinho was a vlid option, as it gave me the feeling the club was aiming high for once.

Frank de Boer really seems to want the job, I think we should give him a shot.

Or Korean. But I prefer to see De Boer come over and being his Dutch colleagues.

Pellegrini... Too old, wants to stay in the northwest. Is that a reason to employ someone?

Go Dutch or Unsy for me. ABM.

Moshiri will be aware that Moyes isn't a popular choice so I think that rules him out. I'm warming to the idea of Pellegrini. I'm hoping that when Ronald de Boer said that his brother hadn't spoken to Everton he meant that he hadn't been interviewed yet, rather than we hadn't made any contact at all. That would be worrying.

This means we are the highest profile job available (assuming Jose to Utd is a done deal). We now hold all the cards!
Instead of begging a manager to come to us, we should now see a few cvs begging us to give them the job.

We can now pick and choose.

Before Sevilla, he finished 3rd back to back with Valencia, despite his best players (Villa and Silva) being sold. Before Valencia, he was at Almeria, which he managed to get in to the Primera Division for the first time in their existence and in their first season, finished 8th, their highest ranking as to date. And before that, he managed tiny club Lorca, with whom he gained promotion to the second highest league for the first time in their history and the next season, they finished 5th, their highest ranking ever.

He has done exceptionally well at every club he managed. But all these clubs are in Spain, and that's the risk. To add on this, I am omitting his only period outside Spain, which was at Spartak Moscow. He was fired there within months because they were mid-table... And to be fair on him, Spartak never pulled back since then and are a mid-table team, so it is questionable if this was his fault anyway.

I would like to see Blind at Everton but aren't you being a bit short sighted thinking he will leave MU.?

A professional application from , or indeed approach to, the right credible person will do nicely, thank you.

(Simeone next week anyone?)

Unlikely, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

"Nothing will be the same" ?

Always has been and it was never going to be anyone else! Only delay was his end of season trip to China with Ajax.

Rumours have it he is in London with his brother finalising things.

Well I certainly don't want Pellegrini with his hang dog look and his droning voice. He had unlimited money at City and Mancini had left him with his 2 best players Aguero and Silva. He managed to win the league with the last kick of the season and this year got into 4th place on goal difference. He would probably bring with him Demichelis to replace Stones and his trusty winger no goal Navas.
So its either FDB or Moyes, and I know its massively unpopular but I would choose Moyes all day long. I always say never go back but if we are left with the choice of the 3 I have mentioned then I would have him back.

Pointless.

Well, think back to the pivotal week of the derby and semi-final, and think how much that hurt! Back then, we would have had literally anybody else.

I do like the idea of FdB because he seems to have an energy about him that I think we didn't have under our last manager (not difficult, I guess). People are saying that he has no Premier League experience which is a good point, but spin that round – a different approach could be what we need. Last season we were so obvious in our "Premier League" ways, it was frightening.

For me, either of those two would bring very different managerial styles to Everton and I'd be happy with either. Lets not mention Mr Moyes just yet though, right... right?!?

I think Navas has scored 4 in 99 games.

Maybe this is because we secretly have spoken to him.

We've offered him big money and transfer funds; shown him the plans for our shiny new dockside arena and the new pie and pint half time offer.

He realises that we are a sleeping giant and also have a 100% winning record in European finals (unlike some - snigger).

Man Utd's offer just isn't doing it for him by comparison ...

Right now, he's scratching his chin, weighing all this up in the OT boardroom and the thought running through his head is, and the Blues are a better class of fan as well. I can't stand Mancs. Scuffy, ugly, gets. I think it is clear, Jose, that the future is bright and blue. I'll look good in that new kit. Of course, I'll look good in any kit but...

The days of managerial dynasties are all but gone. IF we get someone who wins us a trophy or two over the next 4-5 years and leaves us as Champions Leeague qualifiers (at least once), then that would be an unequivocal success. It would also leave us in a far better position to find his successor who may be younger, but also (and more crucially) out of our reach currently. Who knows... by then we may be able to attract the likes of Simeone and Mourinho.

With that in mind, I don't have a problem with Pellegrini. His record with clubs operating below elite level is exceptional (domestically and in Europe). He also has Premier League winning experience. I think he could be the "safest" bet and an excellent choice of manager to begin the rebuilding job.

De Boer, big gamble, he's won nothing during the last 2 years with the biggest team in one of the weakest leagues in Europe. Hardly inspiring stuff. Similarities to Martinez's possession style are also a big red flag.

Koeman, a mixed bag, touted for bigger things but then so was Martinez not so long ago and look how that turned out. Europa finish with Southampton yet won nothing. How is that any improvement on Moyes's achievements with us? His team were also taken apart by us under Martinez early in the season and even in the return fixture they could not beat us when we were in mutinous free fall. The question should be is Koeman really good enough for us not the other way round!

So what does that leave you with? Well in my opinion we want a proven winner and if you look at Mancini and Pellegrini they have the 4th and 5th best win ratio in the EPL, behind only Sir Alex, Mourinho and Ancelotti. That cannot be ignored, Mancini would be my preference but Pellegrini is a good option with Bielsa an exciting wildcard.

I'd take that anyday to another Martinez or Moyes type appointment whereby we're basically allowing them to train as a manager and neither played at the top level under some of the games best managers. Someone like FdB and Koeman would also immediately raise the profile of the club and command respect from the players.

Whether it works or not is one for the future but I want us to at least appoint a 'Name' in footballing terms and make a statement that we're serious about moving forward rather than just staying in the league and maybe scratching the EL places.

Is he kidding? People have a low opinion of our club. I was going to say ex-players but then I realised that I'm talking about Andy Gray. He is an exception and shouldn't be counted. It is sad though that people look at us and think, Well, Moyes would be a good choice because he could get us into 6th place."

Kenwright and his low ceiling has really brought us down.

(Is there a cooling-off period?)

He didn't really produce enough in his time at City with the resources available and clearly is in the Martinez school of poor defence management.

I will say this though oh how I would love to be writing about Everton and Champions League Semi Finals.

We need someone that wants to make us bigger and return us to our rightful place. Perhaps he's the one?

City lost to Real, arguably the 2nd best team in the world. Hardly a hanging offence. Plus how many Champions League semi-finals has Moyes ever reached?

I'll be hiding behind my office chair, and in the interest of full disclosure I'm for FdB or Pellegrini.

Throw in a cup to keep us fans happy, a few eyebrow raising signings to get the club a higher profile across Europe and then say three years later we might be a better proposition to the elite managers.

Saying that if Moshiri springs Simeone on us, out of the blue, I'd be over the moon ha ha! All former managers need not apply. No offence Joe Royle!

Look at his big-money signings at Everton: Bily, Wright (shame it wasn't Billy Wright), Beattie. Yak and Johnson started okay until he turned them into wingers. Heitinga, a CB on huge wages, played at RB or CM.

Personally I think the Moyes talk is a nonsense, that will never happen as long as Moshiri is around – despite Bill.

Also reading about Giggs this morning too – really?

As for the gripe about no Premier League experience – so what? It's still 22 blokes kicking a football about.

As Phil says above, it's surely a 2-horse race between Pellegrini and de Boer now - and I'll be happy with either.

(Moyes also broke our transfer record 3 times so he didn't exactly have pennies to spend, whilst himself being paid £4m a year during his last 5 years with us!)

There are plenty of valid complaints about Moyes. But trying to say he had money to spend, sorry, no. The financial situation of the club during his tenure was completely different from today and he was not given money to spend.

Have a look here:
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Appointing Moyes would be a huge step back, however, I guess I remember Moyes tenure in charge a little different to those that see it as a huge disaster.

I agree, and why are we so slow in everything we do at board level? Koeman, Emery... Why are we chasing ghosts?

We knew that Martinez was gone months ago so why are we only now 'comparing the market.com.'

And why have the club not squashed the Moyes rumours. Moyes had a lot of money, high profile players and the Champions League... and failed miserably at United! He chokes when forced to play big so why entertain his dithering ego when we have an opportunity to 'play big!'

Pellegrini is a world class manager who has won the Premiership, among other trophies but some would have you believe that he isn't good enough because his hair is grey!? or He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?

City murdered us in the League cup, qualified for the Champions League reached the semi final in said cup and would have won the Premiership had the manager not been compromised by his board.

Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich. He is a major step up for a team seen by many to be living in the (30 year) distant past.

Pellegrini is settled, has a reason to prove a point, likely to stay loyal and capable of taking us 'ALL THE WAY!' Why is this so hard!?

Transfer activity has started. High profile players and managers have other high profile offers. We need to get a move on and install him or a like for like before opportunities are lost.

I agree it's frustrating having to wait for news and how I long for the days when we could put the ball away for a few weeks during the close-season.

For me, not wanting him has nothing to do with this age. It's to do with his abilities, which certainly fall far below "world class".

Btw – I hope we sign him and soon before he gets the hump at our indecision seeing as how he has made it clear he wants to join.

All due respect, but you just confirmed my post.

and I quote from earlier...

"He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?"

Silly comments of people not doing any research or not even reading posts before commenting.

Now I guess you are about to go away and read up on something, so that you can write up on something to justify the silly post.

Personally I wouldn't bother, but... over to you.

As for Koeman, even if he deemed to come to EFC it would not be for long as he wants to go abroad.

I think it will be De Boer, he has expressed an interest and is keen.
Failing that Unsworth and Joe Royle for the first season.

Neville leaving Valencia; Moyes turning down the Villa job and not wanting the Celtic job. Each of our fancied managers (at least on TW) are slowly being taken up; Favre (Nice); Emery staying; Koeman staying; Mourinho going head to head with Chelsea for Stones; Chelsea refusing to give into EFC's asking price of £65m for Rom – we are slipping down the pecking order here.

Players are already being touted about and we still do not have a manager – not even a "solid rumour" if there is such a thing! Getting worried now in case it is Moyes...

I might just go over to Holland, pick up De Boer and stick him in front of Kenwright & Moshiri – "He wants the fucking job, give it to him"!

Paranoia – me? No chance.

I think he did very well with the way he handled things and kept Man City in the top 4 and the Champions League Semi-Final considering he was told he was being replaced at the start of the season and therefore had no real authority over the players any more. He also beat Klopp at Wembley, don't forget, in the Cup Final.

He's based in the area and is available / out of contract. It's a no-brainer for me. Koeman doesn't want to come, and De Boer is a risk.

Underneath the calm grey exterior of Pellgrini is a bloody good manager.

I would take exception to:

Citeh murdered us in the semi-final, at the time time everyone was giving us a beating. – Did you watch the Real Madrid Game? Not one shot on target registered by them on the night

Also,, he had ٞ.5 BILLION worth players at his disposal and scraped 4th and the Capital One Cup.

So please don't accuse others of not doing research if you just post "Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich." Because that tells me fuck all. (Oh and my hair is really grey.)

He'd have money to spend at Everton and has already won the Premier League and both cups. Think about it.

I'm not against (new) foreign managers per se but Pellegrini already knows our players and would fit in seamlessly whereas a new manager (to the league) would need time to adapt.

Roberto Di Matteo's trophy cabinet beats his.

After all, Pellegrini only got his hand on a Premier League title because of Gerrard's slip.

He has handled rich owners money for many years now. He's definitely the easy, uninspiring, safe appointment.

What!???

I don't know about Pellegrini now. He was my 3rd choice a few weeks back but it's alarming how City capitulated towards the end of last season.

I know the announcement of Guardiola's arrival is mitigation. But that all said, the City players didn't seem to go beyond a canter in the semi final of the champions league. If you aren't going to be on your A-game for a game like that, when are you?!

He's also spent a hell of a lot of money and while he'd have a lot of money to spend for us, it will still be short of the money he's been used to at City and Real Madrid. A club where he also won nothing. I know he did well at Villarreal on a relatively small budget but that was about a decade ago.

I agree that he's looking the likely name because he lives in the area, will be available and apparently wants the job.

He's definitely a good manager. He just seems a little too safe. Nothing wrong with that. I can just see a bigger pay off from getting someone like De Boer, or Bielsa in, even though there's more risk. But if it has to be safe pair of hands. Give me Pellegrini over David Moyes.

In all seriousness keeping a star studded side in the top four isn't as easy as it looks. Just ask LVG, Mourinho or even Wenger. Pellegrini has done that (along with winning it). He knew he was losing his job months ago and still managed it. Don't get me wrong I think City could and maybe should have achieved more but I'd settle for what he won there in the last three years.

Still don't get it but, as I said earlier, I'm in favour of Frank de Boer.

If we have to go down the sensible route I think I'm edging towards AVB who did a decent job under difficult circumstances at Spurs without little thanks. He wasn't spectacular but he's young and has something to prove.

De Boer if we have to go for a league unknown.

I guess the fact people are reluctant to trust a coach who's won every domestic honour in England (and very recently) - with the Everton job. Is a great indicator of how far we've come.

This guy might be soft spoken but he's no mug.

I'd forgotten about Mancini. He could be worth a shout.

Tbh, I've never really warmed to the guy. I find him to be mardy bugger like Wenger when he loses. I guess it would be an improvement on losing by 2 or 3 goals and everything being rosey in the garden though.

My response to our actual appointment (in order of disappointment) will be categorised as follows:

1) Jubilation bordering upon disbelief.
2) Impressed.
3) l need serious persuasion, and fast.
4) Why ? Why ? Why ?
5) Riots in L4 4EL.
6) Sweet baby judas, not Moyes !

Betwixt levels 3 and 4 my pitchfork ignites !

Level 5 I activate my "Lord Summer Isle" Special moves.

Level 6 I wee in Moshiri's shoes.

My one concern about Pellegrini is that on a fitness level, many City fans had the same complaints about their players, as we did with ours. They felt they weren't fit enough during games and this caused the wide ranging injuries they had all season.

Many thanks for the support my friends. Looks like the North West is landing all the best football managers for next season (including a very interesting appointment at Everton)! This is the region everyone will be watching.

Flooded with comments she goes on to say that they know who the next Everton manager is but can't divulge as yet, but she has said it's not Moyes. This was posted yesterday and am amazed it's not gone too far on the web as yet. Link here and scroll down a bit:

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Thanks for that Neil. I hadn't had a sniff of this.

Intriguing, teasing, or a journo trying to make out they know more than they actually do?

Bloody hell !
Someone at L4 4EL get this lad on the payroll !

If...and it's a big IF, the club HAS got someone already it may explain the total silence and lack of concrete info on who's been interviewed etc.

Have to say though this is like being an 8 year old waiting for Christmas to come and worrying that it might never!!

Imagine if it got announced who the new manager was at the Tony Bellew fight! A bit of high end dramatic entrance Kenwright style, loads of limelight for him?

Don't shoot the messenger but looks like it could be him......could also be rubbish too.

The team to be built and qualified for Champions League to coincide with the opening of the new waterfront stadium in three years time.

Well that's what I was told!!

Football rumours: Ryan Giggs set to be named Everton manager?

Read the bloody article, it's taking the piss out of shit journo's mate.

Read it ! ('Cos you clearly haven't so far).
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All the rest have been paper speculation.

Absolutely astounded about no approach for De Boer.

Although you'd probably want me out at Christmas, despite my win at Anfield.