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Sporting will pass on option to buy Bolasie

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A report from Portugal suggests that Sporting Lisbon are unlikely to take up their option to turn Yannick Bolasie's loan into a permanent transfer at the end of the season.

According to O Jogo, Sporting have been unconvinced by the 30-year-old's performances and that has cast doubt on whether or not that they will elect to purchase him for the €4.5m fee they agreed with Everton.

This follows an earlier report that Sporting's hierarchy have already made their decision over Bolasie but have decided to keep it private for now.

Bolasie, who has two goals and four assists so far in his time with the Portuguese side, was sent off in a cup match in January and recently missed three games, one through suspension, but was back in their team yesterday as they drew 1-1 away at Rio Ave

Bolasie attempted to take the penalty that provided the 84th-minute equaliser for Sporting but was over-ruled by Jovane Cabral who netted from the spot.

The former Crystal Palace winger was signed by Everton for a fee rising to £28m in 2016 but suffered a potentially career-ending knee injury a year later and subsequently struggled to replicate the form that had prompted the Blues to spend big money on him under former boss Ronald Koeman.

Bolasie has had loan spells at Aston Villa, Anderlecht and now Sporting as he attempts to keep his career on the rails but, with one year remaining on his Everton contract, it seems likely that he has played his last game for the Toffees.

Original Source: O Jogo via Sport Witness  


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Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
1 Posted 16/02/2020 at 19:54:55
What a most appropriate mis type.

Spending Bog money on him. Many a true word.

Andy Crooks
2 Posted 16/02/2020 at 20:01:13
If we had a list of the worst buys ever, he would be on it. Obviously the injury changed things but he has, it seems, not been very complimentary about our club. Even at the time, the fee paid for a one-trick journeyman was obscene. Walsh was one of the biggest mistakes in our history.

In what other business could someone (think Sandro here) be so utterly, comprehensively, out-of-his-depth shite and walk away with a big pay-off? The era between Moyes and Ancelotti should be wiped from the history of our club, Japanese style.

Dennis Stevens
3 Posted 16/02/2020 at 20:08:26
Perhaps he'll be back challenging Walcott next season – they did say they wanted to strengthen the right side, after all!
Tony Everan
4 Posted 16/02/2020 at 20:39:59
His injury was a horrific one, he has never fully recovered. Possibly wouldn't have made the top grade anyway, we will never know for sure.

Why can't clubs who sign players like Bolasie for £25M or whatever insure themselves against the player getting such a catastrophic injury? After it, Bolasie lost his speed, agility and value overnight.

Dave Abrahams
5 Posted 16/02/2020 at 20:50:33
The article states that, when Everton signed Bolasie, it was for a fee ‘rising to £28M', I doubt if we ever got near to paying that much, due to his injury, so what was the initial signing on fee?
Rob Marsh
6 Posted 16/02/2020 at 21:10:52
Even at his best while playing for us, I thought he flattered to deceive, the odd exciting move, but no Richarlison – that's for sure.

Andy (2), Walsh, as you've rightly said, has done us so much harm, more than many realise. He set us back at least 5 years, this season with the money we've spent recently and, had it've been on quality players, we'd have been at least in a punch-up with Leicester City and possibly Man City.

Other than the top three, they're all as weak as piss and, after what we've spent, we're in no position to take advantage of them?

Let's not forget the man who employed Walsh in the first place; let's hope he got it right this time.

Mark Guglielmo
7 Posted 16/02/2020 at 21:33:07
Dave 6 - if you believe Transfermarkt, we paid around £25m for him.
Paul Jones
8 Posted 16/02/2020 at 22:59:46
Walsh = Shit Everton signing(s):
One goal career wonder. Very average centre-half; one of six shit signings making Neville Southall the remaining magnificent one. Talent scout who brought his holiday buys back to Everton.

The one that made a profit was from Aston Villa so assume the wife or girl-friend did not make that trip so not too distracted.

Thankfully Slimani preferred the bright lights of Leicester.

David Currie
9 Posted 17/02/2020 at 00:55:23
No surprise they won't buy him as he is crap; the same will happen with Cenk at Palace.
Alan J Thompson
10 Posted 17/02/2020 at 05:48:25
They'll all come in handy for those "dead rubber" Europa League games, the League Cup and those FA Cup games against Yeovil and the like should we ever be able to afford our neighbour's luck.

If they are not named in our 25-man squad, can we claim them as Academy players to reduce any FFP commitments? No harm in asking, just a matter of where they might appear in the Accounts.

Ajay Gopal
11 Posted 17/02/2020 at 08:23:14
A few harsh comments on here, I think about Bolasie and Steve Walsh. We have had some very unfortunate injuries with the players that we bought - think Aruna Kone, Bolasie, now Gbamin, in addition to all the horrific injuries to Coleman, McCarthy, Gomes, etc. I wonder if any other club in recent memory have had similar issues? I can think of Newcastle this season, but most of them were temporary injuries, not career ending/season ending injuries.

On a related note, it dawns on me that our players get injured when the team is playing shit, meaning the players try too hard and to overcome a bad situation, and get injured - I can think of McCarthy (last ditch tackle to prevent a goal when we were in the worst run of form), Gomes and Gbamin (earlier this season when things were not going well), Bolasie also got injured I think trying something very fancy on the sidelines, and tried to run it off, probably aggravating the injury.

Daniel A Johnson
12 Posted 17/02/2020 at 08:48:18
Bolasie for £25M in the market was a fair price.

He was a one trick pony, his pace on the counter could be devastating, but his injury robbed him of his strengths and curtailed his career.

What stinks with Bolasie has been his attitude since the injury. He has gone to clubs and despite initial promise his bad attitude has let him down. Not to mention his uncomplimentary remarks about the club, he now comes across as being bitter.

As for Walsh, sure Sandro, Bolasie and Klassen weren't great (but without hindsight were good on paper). But he did bring in Pickford, Keane and Gueye. I'm counting Sigurdsson as a Koeman signing.

Equally Marcel Brands has, a few expensive signings with question marks Gbamin, Iwobi and Kean.

Derek Thomas
13 Posted 17/02/2020 at 09:00:33
Unlucky with his leg, hope he's well - but - We over paid, He under performed.

That said, like many others, he didn't set or agree to pay his fee or wages. This is collectively down to Kenwright, Martinez, Moshiri, Koeman, Walsh and Allardyce who signed off the various deadwoods still haunting us.

Martin Nicholls
14 Posted 17/02/2020 at 09:20:07
I'm with Rob (#6) on this: Bolasie did very little of note prior to his injury – my abiding memory of him is seeing the majority of his overhit crosses going out on the far touchline for a throw-in to the opposition.

Based on those early signs, I suspect that – even if he had not been injured – his time at EFC would have been judged by most as poor, if not the complete disaster that the injury has made it.

Sam Hoare
15 Posted 17/02/2020 at 09:39:05
The thing that most annoyed me (and still does) about the Bolasie signing is that we could have got Zaha for similar money, who even at the time had more end product but was perhaps judged risky because he was younger. We went for the 'safe' option and ended up 5 years later with an asset worth nothing instead of one worth £60m+. Terrible, terrible business.
Niall McIlhone
16 Posted 17/02/2020 at 11:24:10
He just needs to move on with some dignity come season end. Everton FC have made him a very rich man, and if he has misgivings abut the way he feels he has been treated as a player, then keep it to himself, at least until his autobiography comes out!
The injury ruined his career, sad, yes, but the same things happens to young lads with bags of potential some of whom who never play again and would never enjoy the rewards he has had from the game. He, at least, has had a taste of some European football and Sporting are a very good club for him to show what he can do. It would appear that, like Niasse/Sandro/Tosun his time at the club will not be remembered too fondly.
John Hammond
17 Posted 17/02/2020 at 11:45:31
Bolasie was basically a combination of Walcott and Niasse. Unpredicatable but not in a good way, terrible control and extremely infuriating. Having said that he seemed to be striking up an excellent partnership with Lukaku before his injury. I think all his assists were to Rom.
Rob Dolby
18 Posted 17/02/2020 at 12:05:23
Before we signed him I thought he was exciting to watch with lots of show boating and bags of pace.

I am not sure Peter Reid ever fancied him when he was at Plymouth but at Palace he looked a right hand full.

Unfortunately for him and us that injury finished him as a pacey winger.

Gbamin could be our new Danny Williamson. Injuries happen in sports. It's not his fault that the transfer market is nuts and we had an owner burning money.

Colin Malone
19 Posted 17/02/2020 at 12:22:06
In Bolasie's defence, he played under two managers, Big Sam and RK, where the ball was never on the ground. Maybe Carlo might get the best out of him.
Rob Marsh
20 Posted 17/02/2020 at 13:07:51
Niall # 16

Niall, Tosun always gave his best, his head never went down, we never heard him complain and his attitude was very good.

He only really lacked a yard of pace and could finish.

It's maybe a little harsh to be putting in the Bolasie, Sandro & Klassen type group?

Paul Jones
21 Posted 17/02/2020 at 15:10:26
I would advise Moshri to read Hans Christian Anderson's "The Emperor's New Clothes" before he parts with any more serious money on the advice of a transfer Guru.
Robert Tressell
22 Posted 17/02/2020 at 18:41:12
Bolasie was a bag of tricks with no end product, kind of a guy who briefly did okay because we had a top-class centre-forward to feed. Weird signing in amongst a lot of other weird signings around that time.

So infuriating that we spend most of the nineties and noughties without a pot to piss in and then, as soon as we have some cash, we spend big on players who found their level beneath us.

Drew O'Neall
23 Posted 17/02/2020 at 19:42:06
Bolasie was an enigma. He had genius which showed in glimpses. I think he could have been a very good player for us if he had played another season with Lukaku without getting injured.

@ Andy #2 What has he said about the club?

I’m aware of him being very complimentary and performing some great charitable services through EitC.

I know what some people say about YouTube highlight reels but there’s no way a Bilyaletdinov or Oumar Niasse could do this stuff:

https://youtu.be/xiQ41BEsHyc

Niall McIlhone
24 Posted 17/02/2020 at 19:42:40
Rob @20;

I don't disagree regarding Tosun's attitude, but we have had very little return for what was paid for him, as with Klaassen who also seemed to lack the pace to make a mark in the Premier League.

Harsh? Maybe, but then we often reflect on this site about "players past" and I guess there aren't too many outside the trophy winners of '85, '87 and '95 who are held with lasting affection? Tim Cahill, Steven Pienaar, Sylvain Distin definitely.

Unfortunately for Yannick, the promising partnership with Lukaku didn't work out due to the injury, and it's sad that he didn't make his mark at Everton.

Drew O'Neall
25 Posted 17/02/2020 at 19:53:56
Fucking 'ell, Rob Marsh @ 20,

There is no group of Klaassen, Sandro and Bolasie.

If there is a group with Sandro and Klaasen in it, Tosun should be hundreds of miles closer to it than Bolasie!

Bolasie performed for us and was first-choice pick on the wing before his injury, whereas Tosun never got close to putting a run of games together, let alone being first-pick anywhere but the bench.

Some people have very, very short memories indeed.

Don Alexander
26 Posted 17/02/2020 at 19:57:49
When we signed Bolasie, he'd only been notable to me for ripping us a new one just about every time we played Palace. Against other opponents, his record was way more modest. Another Walsh master-signing, regardless of the injury.
Steve Ferns
27 Posted 17/02/2020 at 20:30:24
It looks to me like none of the above have seen Bolasie play this season. I have, albeit on the box only. Free sports shows all the Liga NOS games for free.

Anyway, I would say he’s fully recovered from injury. He has his burst of pace back, he has his tricks back, and he’s as good as he ever was.

The thing for me is, he was never actually that good. And so far this season he’s easily one of Sporting’s best players. That’s not saying much as they’ve had a stinker of a season. Bruno Fernandes has left now (to Man Utd) so let’s see if Bolasie can carry the side.

Sporting would love to keep Yannick. The fans I am in touch with, not a big sample size these days though, are of the opinion that he’s a very decent player.

Sporting were never going to sign Bolasie. They can’t afford him. They’ve got no money. The money they get off Man Utd will be on the drip and will have immediately been swallowed up by debts.

Bolasie went to Portugal to be in the shop window. I think he’s done alright there and hopefully someone will cough up £5m for him.

Bill Gienapp
28 Posted 17/02/2020 at 20:47:01
Bolasie wasn't bad for us pre-injury – I think he had a goal and four assists when he blew his knee out – not an amazing return, but solid, and he was showing signs of a burgeoning rapport with Lukaku.

He also tried to rush back and Allardyce, in his infinite wisdom, kept playing him, even though it was obvious he was only about 60-70% fit and kept ballooning crosses into the upper deck. Remember when someone asked why he was playing over Lookman and Allardyce responded "Because he cost thirty million." What a complete and utter charlatan that guy was.

Derek Knox
29 Posted 18/02/2020 at 09:09:59
It makes my blood boil when I hear stories like this, and by the way I don't hold Bolasie in any way to blame. I remember as a few have said he was an okay player, but definitely not worth what we paid for him.

I remember thinking at the time he was probably about an £11M-£13M player and that's tops at that. I couldn't believe it when we had shelled out a fee well in excess of that and the possibility of it rising to £28M.

Pre-injury, he was contributing something, but nothing like commensurate to his fee, and he seemed to have a decent on-field relationship with Romelu Lukaku, providing some decent crosses for him.

The injury, as with most injuries could not have been predicted, but it does happen. Now we find ourselves not only recording record losses but can't even offload, among many others I may add, for a fraction of the fee paid for him/them.

Koeman, Walsh and Allardyce (to a lesser degree) should be taken to court, for misappropriation of the Club's Funds. To rub salt in to the gaping wound these shysters walked away with compensation!

Mark Rankin
30 Posted 18/02/2020 at 13:21:23
A poor signing.
James Flynn
31 Posted 18/02/2020 at 14:08:44
Good to see some defense of Bolasie in this thread.

He's been a model professional, who just happens to not be all that good a footballer. And he's never poor-mouthed the Club. He, reasonably to me, complained during pre-season that the Club was playing with his career.

He went back in under Allardyce when he clearly wasn't anywhere near fit, then went out on loan twice to play his way back into shape, which he did at Anderlecht. He was a regular starter and 90 minute man there.

If I was him this last pre-season, with two years left on my contract and back to full fitness, I would expect an opportunity to play my way in or out of the 1st Team of the Club that's paying me. Who wouldn't?

Instead, we had Brands scrambling to find him a club anywhere. Of course he was upset and said so. If form holds, we'll be paying "I don't feel like it today." Schneiderlin for one more season and that dud Besic. Maybe Carlo will give Yannick I chance to make the Team this Summer. I say he's earned the chance.

And in slagging off Koeman, Walsh, and Allardyce, no un-love for Blue Bill? Because those three, like Roberto and Moyes before them, had no say in fees and wages. Had to be someone above them. If Moshiri delegated that, it would have been to Kenwright, not any manager.

Bill Watson
32 Posted 19/02/2020 at 09:59:05
Drew #25

Bolasie performed for us?

Doh! Must have missed it!

Jerome Shields
33 Posted 20/02/2020 at 09:55:02
As anybody got any information on Lookman. ?

Found this report when I looked again.

Ademola Lookman - RB Leipzig

After a successful 6 month loan spell in Germany in 2018, Lookman signed permanently for RB Leipzig last summer for £18m from Everton. The big price tag brought with it big expectations, but the 22 year old winger has so far failed to reach those lofty heights. He has played in only 7 matches all season and has failed to register a goal or an assist. This is in stark contrast to his previous spell, where he knocked in 5 and set up another 4 goals. RB are pushing Bayern Munich all the way for the title this season, but Lookman is not one of those making an impact. He has failed to adapt to manager Julian Nagelsmann’s preferred 4-4-2 system, often finding himself on the bench behind the more versatile Christopher Nkunku.

Still not self motivated enough. Still paying the price for not working on defensive aspects of his game , which is now affecting his forward play.

Robert Tressell
34 Posted 20/02/2020 at 10:04:52
At a complete tangent, rumours of us courting the chief scout at real Madrid. This seems based on his work bringing 3 v young (but expensive) Brazilians to real (vinicius, reinier and rodrygo). He also recruited odegaard and valverde - both excellent. There may be something to this as we've previously been linked with the guy at shatktar donestk who has done similar (but much cheaper) work recruiting young Brazilians who have often done very well despite the weirdness associated with shaktar. It also chimes with the Brands strategy of recruiting young players and developing them. Would work for me, provided focus is quality not quantity. Plenty of good young and well priced talent in south america that would supplement our young british emerging stars.
Brian Williams
35 Posted 20/02/2020 at 10:11:22
Jerome#33.
Looks like the club DID know what they were doing when we sold him, despite those on here who screamed otherwise.......and often! 🤪
Sam Hoare
36 Posted 20/02/2020 at 10:11:24
Robert@34; yes I saw that. Think that could be something of a coup. Real have recruited extremely well I think over the last few years and it will likely pay dividends over the next decade.

Juni Calafat is his name and I think getting him would bode very well. We need to follow the models of Dortmund and Leipzig (and Spurs to a degree), targeting young talented players with high potential (like Kean) who fit into the team's need and philosophy.

Robert Tressell
37 Posted 20/02/2020 at 10:43:46
Totally agree Sam. The route to success is via the Dortmund, Atletico, Leipzig etc model. Forget Vecino and his ilk, good though these players are, its all about hungry young stars and dynamic football.

Everton is already an excellent example of the benefits of youth recruitment (Holgate, Calvert-Lewin, Stones, Vlasic, Onyekuru, Lookman) compared with older, expensive players deemed not good enough for top teams (Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson, Walcott etc). Even those young players who didn't work out from a playing point of view turned a profit financially.

Jerome Shields
38 Posted 20/02/2020 at 11:01:56
Brian#35

Agree. Lookman still hasn't got the message and at Everton they came to the conclusion he never would. They where right and did some good transfer business.

Conor McCourt
39 Posted 20/02/2020 at 11:46:56
Jerome/Brian- I'm one of those that thought it was terrible business and still do. Lookman thought he was joining an inferior team where he would get playing time but because of Nagelsmann's impact they are challenging for the title.

Lookman came on against Munich last week and looked really dangerous which is not easy to do in the Allianz Arena. As he is adapting to the coach's methods he is becoming more of a fixture and that Leipzig team is some unit.

The same criticisms levelled at Lookman were aimed at Grealish at the same age.

Robert Tressell
40 Posted 20/02/2020 at 12:08:55
With Lookman it's a shame. He's got talent. Doubt very much he'd be getting much game time for us this season or next as similar to bernard and iwobi who are better (at the moment). So did ok to buy then sell for a profit. Vlasic is possibly the one who got away as could see him being a good fit for our right flank under the present management. Even then, he didnt want to be here so you have to move on. Doubt either of them will win a ballon d'or or become a seriously big star.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

41 Posted 20/02/2020 at 12:09:21
Connor, Lookman played only the final eight minutes against Bayern.

He has featured just 7 times in all competitions all season since joining RB Leipzig, only once completing 90 minutes.

His total minutes per game in 5 out of possible 22 Bundesliga games reads: 11 mins, 30, 90, 19 and 8.

In the CL 1 appearance out of possible 7, 69 mins.

In the German Cup, 1 appearance out of a possible 3, 9 mins.

I hope Nagelsmann isn't still blaming Everton for the player's poor condition as to why he isn't being selected as he did at the start of the season when not selecting him.

Ademola Lookman shows glimpses of being a very good player. He evidently isn't doing enough to convince his current manager that he merits a starting berth, exactly as was the case under different managers at Everton.

We, Brands, did well to get the money we did for him.

Robert Tressell
42 Posted 20/02/2020 at 12:52:41
This kind of highlights my point even more. Lookman could still probs command a fee of about £20m at the end of the season. But Bolasie we cant shift even though he's had a decent stint at Sporting according to Steve. We need to find the next lot of Lookmans!
Conor McCourt
43 Posted 20/02/2020 at 13:00:26
Jay I don't disagree with too much of what you say except that I believe he has great talent that Silva didn't get the best out of and he would be more suited to Ricky's role under Carlo. I still think he's offers us more offensively than any other wide players at the club bar Richarlison.

At the beginning under Nagelsmann he wasn't making the bench on occasions and I think he wants more from Lookman. To bring him on against Munich showed his confidence is increasing and Lookman looked really sharp.

I don't think he was managed well by Silva and believe he should have been used more effectively as an impact player. I used the Grealish example because he looks that type who will develop with maturity,both physically and tactically,and game time.

There are question marks over his attitude and he was unhappy so I understand that Brands decided to cash in but I still think it will come back to bite us.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

44 Posted 20/02/2020 at 13:33:24
Transfermarkt contradicts your claim, Conor, about Lookman not making the bench early season after his transfer from Everton.

Link

In RB Leipzig's 32 games, he wasn't selected for game 1 of the Bundesliga due to 'fitness' following his transfer.

He subsequently started just one game and has been on the bench for all other 22 BL fixtures apart from game 10 (back injury) and game 17 (not in squad).

A similar story in their 7 CL games. Unplayed sub in 4 games, 69 minutes in one game, not in squad in the other 2 games.

In the 3 German Cup games, unplayed sub in 1, back injury another, 9 minutes in the 3rd game.

In all 32 games RB Leipzig has played this season then, Lookman has only featured 7 times and had a total playing time of 236 minutes.

He started just 2 games and completed 90 minutes just once. He has only not been selected in 6 of those 32 games. Two with a back injury, 1 due to lack of fitness, 3 simply not selected.

RB Leipzig has lost just 5 games in all competitions all season. Lookman has featured in just 7 games for them all season. He got playing time in 4 out of 5 of those defeats. I'm not attributing those defeats solely to Lookman, but equally he wasn't able to help the team starve off defeat.

No goals. No assists. He is clearly failing to impress sufficiently to be given more playing time from the bench, let alone a starting berth.

There is nothing in those numbers to suggest his departure is going to 'come back and bite us' as you claim.

Andy Crooks
45 Posted 20/02/2020 at 14:25:09
Drew and James. I am sure I read an news piece on here a while ago in which Bolasie was indeed bad mouthing the club. I will try and find it when I get home from work.
Rob Marsh
46 Posted 20/02/2020 at 14:31:27
There was just something about Lookman's demeanour to me that I can't put my finger on, almost like everything seemed like a hassle to him?

He never looked comfortable and if you contrast that with DCL who's had his ups and downs also, but DCL always had an 'have a go' attitude and always had an energy and keen look about him.

Sadly, I can see a touch of Lookman in Moise Kean, I hope I'm wrong.

I'll agree with Jay Wood, it was a good sell, the coaches and Brands had him long enough to come to an astute decision about any future contribution he might have made at EFC, I suspect he had head/motivational problems and put together with his grass is greener elsewhere attitude, we did well to sell!

John Pierce
47 Posted 20/02/2020 at 14:52:12
Rob. My Grandmother would describe Lookman’s face and attitude along the lines of ‘stop thinking the world owes you a living’. 😀
Conor McCourt
48 Posted 20/02/2020 at 15:16:24
Jay as I said in my last post I agree that he hasn't pulled up any trees at Leipzig.

In my initial post I shouldn't have used the word terrible in terms of business but my point in the thread was that because Lookman hasn't so far been a hit doesn't mean it was great business.

Lookman went there to revitalise his career but would have realised quickly that competition was a different level than before and even at Everton. Nagelsmann didn't allegedly fancy him at the start but the fact that he brought him on in their most vital game of the season when they were on top to try and win it and that they turned down a bid in excess of what Leipzig paid for him from Newcastle in January suggests to me that he is an important part of the coaches plans going forward.

We have just paid double the money for a player with less scope and talent in my opinion but has the edge in terms of experience, physicality and understanding of the game.

I don't disagree with John and Rob that the player was unhappy and selling him may have been necessary but I think he became frustrated over being misused and under used under Silva.

I believe there is a real player there Jay though I accept it's more a judgement call than facts based. I would much rather have kept Robinson and Lookman and grow with the squad.


Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 20/02/2020 at 15:50:47
Conor #48, I was one of Lookman's biggest boosters when he was here, and I agree that making the bench for Leipzig's biggest game of the season (@Bayern) and then being subbed on in a tied game seem to indicate that he is finally doing what's necessary in training to get Nagelsmann to take that chance on him.

However, I think it may be a bridge too far to assume that "he's an important part of the coaches plans going forward." Leipzig doesn't have much attacking depth and that may be why they weren't interested in the Barcodes' bid. Let's see what happens in the summer when Werner moves on and Nagelsmann has to rebuild his attack. We'll know then if Lookman is really in the picture.

Robert Tressell
50 Posted 20/02/2020 at 16:01:38
Also agree misused and underused by Silva. Now that things settle down it really is starting to look like Silva was completely out of his depth at Everton. I know some people called that out pretty early. But now he's gone you just look at a couple of years of wasted opportunity. Not every dashing portuguese is the new Mourinho. He might learn from the experience and go on to have a good career (like the villas boas renaissance) but it was too much for him too soon at Goodison.
Rob Marsh
51 Posted 20/02/2020 at 16:29:28
Conor #48

If my memory serves me, he had time under four managers and never found himself under any of them at EFC, I feel absolutely sure had he of been firing in training sessions and full of energy, Silva who desperate for any kind of talent upfront would have picked in a millisecond. Just look at what we were putting out and he was worse than them?

My guess he was disinterested in training, for four managers to pass him over. The coaching staff must have tried every single psychological 'pick me up' to get him going (but to no avail), it was in their interest to do so.

His first half season at Liepzig would have had his adrenalin levels through the roof being in new sorroundings and a new team. Come the full move, now with a realisation of four years ahead and he now has to start competing for his place in an inform team, can you see the same pattern beginning to emerge as at EFC.

He's psychologically frail, we shouldn't have to cotton wool every player who's shying away and especially at the money they earn.

He's now someone else's problem.

Chris Williams
52 Posted 20/02/2020 at 16:47:58
On several occasions I listened to the live broadcast of away games on Everton Radio when Darren Griffiths and Ian Snodin were commentators.

Lookman was on the bench and on a few occasions was sent out with the others to warm up. He was repeatedly criticised by the two of them for the half hearted and sullen way he went about it. They contrasted his attitude with the likes of Baines who went at it with enthusiasm and professionalism.

If he came on it was with a face like thunder. They were pretty outspoken by their standards and they are pretty biased Everton broadcasters.

If that was his normal demeanour it was unsurprising he didn’t get so much game time.

Jerome Shields
53 Posted 20/02/2020 at 16:57:08
I was also a Lookman supporter, thought he knew what he was about to push throught the Leipzig loan and put on a good show while there.

But it became apparent though he had loads of ability, he wasn't able to play within the Everton team. Did not track back and was All forward. Walcott was his competition, and showed his Arsenal training in being able to help Evertons defensive shape. Lookman seemed to just sulk and wanted away to Leipzig. He did not seem to cop on that he needed to develop the defensive aspect of his game, which I am sure at Finch Farm they encouraged him to do, till they where blue in the face. Lookman did not listen and went back to Leipzig, where a new manager wanted what his Everton coaches wanted. Lookman still is not listening, and Leipzig have deadwood. By the way Walcott still is getting selected for his defensive awareness and is still a twat.

I agree buy another Lookman and find another pre present manager Leipzig to sell him too. Great Transfer business by Everton.

Tony Hill
54 Posted 20/02/2020 at 17:02:01
Perhaps Lookman should have gone on loan to Derby as Allardyce suggested.
Phil Smith
55 Posted 20/02/2020 at 17:33:36
Andy (#2) - "Japanese style" hahahaha!
Drew O'Neall
56 Posted 20/02/2020 at 21:58:34
Andy Crooks @ 45

Did you find it or are you retracting your earlier assertion?

Andy Crooks
57 Posted 20/02/2020 at 22:33:56
Drew, and James. My recollection was that he tweeted that Everton and others were playing with his career, also other negative stuff. However, I cannot find anything on the site. I fully accept that vague recollections should not condemn anyone, therefore it is only fair to retract that comment.
Indeed, in my search I found him saying some nice things about the club. Sorry, Yannick.
Brian Williams
58 Posted 20/02/2020 at 22:38:51
Andy #57.

Nothing wrong with your memory mate I remember him having a moan about the club too.

Didn't document it though so it wouldn't stand up in court or anything.

Brian Williams
59 Posted 20/02/2020 at 22:48:36
Wasn't anything major as I recall, more out of frustration at his situation at the time I reckon.
Mike Gaynes
60 Posted 20/02/2020 at 22:58:49
Guys, it was a tweet last August after he couldn't get either a fresh chance from Silva or a transfer: "Rah man are out here playing with my career like LEGO."

That's it, nothing more. Seemed like more of a moan about Silva than anything else.

Andrew Ellams
61 Posted 20/02/2020 at 23:03:11
When does Bolasies contract expire? It will be 4 years this summer since he signed.
Mike Gaynes
62 Posted 20/02/2020 at 23:08:14
Andrew, he's out of contract this June 30.

Tony, Leipzig is battling for a Bundesliga title. Derby is battling for 12th in the Championship. I'd say by any measure he made the right choice.

Phil Smith
63 Posted 21/02/2020 at 04:28:49
Another assist for him tonight...
Drew O'Neall
64 Posted 21/02/2020 at 07:35:31
I remember he said that, I don't have a problem with it.

Andy, fair play.

He's a good fella with a good attitude and was unfortunate to join Everton at a time of chaos and to sustain a serious injury. Yes, he earned a lot of money but had his career stymied into the bargain.

Conor McCourt
65 Posted 20/02/2020 at 09:33:30
Rob 51- Again there is a lot of validity to your argument much of which I wouldn't debate. Where I differ is that I didn't think Allardyce and Koeman were wrong not to play him but under Silva I really did.

He wanted to go the previous summer but Silva maintained he would get his chances. There were games against inferior teams which were tough to break down and Silva would prefer Walcott despite his skill set when I would have been as much use. The boy has devilment, movement and moments in his game which were under-deployed.

Then he was played in an away game against decent opposition and asked to do what Ricky and Theo were excellent at and he struggled. Then he was back out of contention. Whether his attitude in training went against him is conjecture.

Earlier I spoke about Grealish as I watched him play for Ireland u21 as a 17 yr old. I thought he would be some player and he flourished in the Premier League early on. He hit poor form and even in the Championship he struggled and was criticised for his attitude and application by several managers and for his selfishness. He went into the wilderness for a few years but became invigorated last season, worked hard at his game, became stronger and developed as he matured.

I am not comparing their individual qualities but I can see parallels in both their talent and weaknesses. Lookman has only turned 22 and has plenty of time on his side to do similar when the penny drops. Under Nagelsmann he should be like a sponge.

Mike 49- I have watched Leipzig against Dortmund, Bayern and Spurs and although I was aware of the talents of Werner, Schick and Forsburg (who we were linked with in the past) I hadn't taken note of Nkunku before this season and he's impressive. For Lookman to be behind those lads doesn't surprise me, in hindsight for the game time he wanted he was better off staying put or choosing Saints who were sniffing.

It will be interesting to see how he fares over the rest of the season and whether he can improve with the increasing standards at Leipzig.

Jerome Shields
66 Posted 21/02/2020 at 10:09:52
Connor #65,

Hopefully you are right regarding Lookman; he has bags of talent, which you have based on keen observation of him at Everton and Leipzig.

Lookman can improve to compete in his role, but he does need to do that. Hopefully he will succeed.

Bill Gienapp
67 Posted 21/02/2020 at 11:01:21
There's no doubt Lookman has talent, and part of me wishes he were still here. But something clearly isn't clicking with him – it's happened under too many different managers now to dismiss his lack of playing time as an anomaly or extenuating circumstances.

Re: Bolasie bad-mouthing the club, I also recall him tweeting an emoji after one of our tougher losses this season that some interpreted as shade, but that's about it.

Tony Abrahams
68 Posted 21/02/2020 at 11:12:44
Once Everton gave Bolasie such a massive contract, then it was obvious that he was made for life. He had a terrible injury, but was also very lucky it never happened six months earlier because, if it had, he might not be in such a fantastic financial position. This is the only thing affecting Yannick Bolasie, because I'm sure Everton would love to have him off their wage-bill, and all's his agent would have to do is go to the club with this proposal. Then, we would really find out, who is playing with Bolasie's career!
James Flynn
69 Posted 21/02/2020 at 13:49:20
Bolasie's contract runs thru the end of next season.
Minik Hansen
70 Posted 21/02/2020 at 14:29:27
Sporting use Bolasie in the Europa League, played 89 mins last night. Won 3-1 in the 1st leg. Seems like he is so far in the plans atleast until the end of the season? I hope he scores a couple and assists, so they'll reconsider keeping him.
Mike Gaynes
71 Posted 21/02/2020 at 15:10:28
James #69, what's your source for that info? Transfermarkt says it expires this summer, and so does the ReadEverton blog: https://readeverton.com/2020/02/18/sporting-make-decision-not-to-buy-bolasie
James Flynn
72 Posted 21/02/2020 at 15:58:00
Almost a year to the day, Silva on why Lookman wasn't playing much:


"We know what his quality is and you know I believe in his quality since the first day I saw him so it has to be same Lookman everyday with the same desire everyday.

“He needs to understand what the coach wants coming from him, and any winger in our model, because, after that, the quality he has.

“He is a young football player but, being honest with you, I expect Ademola to be on a different level already this season.

“I keep believing, 100%, in his quality as a football player, there are no doubts about that, but what I want to see coming from him is the same desire coming from him, each day, to achieve that, to reach that level he wants and the level I believe he can play at."

"I see one Lookman doing fantastic things one day and I say: 'Ok, it will be this week' and maybe the next day I have doubts.

"I don't want this because, in my opinion, he has big, big potential.”

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

73 Posted 21/02/2020 at 16:52:32
James @ 72.

I recall those comments very well, James. It was when my own alarm bells about Lookman first started tinkling.

Such a public denouncement was very much contrary to how Silva conducted himself. The message was very clear and stark.

Ademola is very talented with huge potential, someone the manager and the club trusted and believed in being able to make the breakthrough to the first team.

The big BUT! was clearly expressed about his consistent application in training.

Unless and until that aspect of being a professional footballer improves, Ademola Lookman is not going to have a glittering career in the game his talent hints that he is capable of.

We got good money for him, more than doubling our investment. He is now somebody else's problem.

Jerome Shields
74 Posted 21/02/2020 at 21:19:16
James #72,

At the time, I wondered about Silva's comments. It seemingly showed a player with an attitude problem and a manager who had given up on him. Very lucky Everton got rid of him. His place on the Leipzig bench could be to appease those that sanctioned the transfer fee.

Ash Coakley
75 Posted 21/02/2020 at 21:48:14
I understand any transfer is a risk but don't understand how we get it so wrong so often.

As mentioned earlier in these comments, even at Palace, Zaha was a better prospect at a cheaper price. In that window, Redmond, Traore, Pereyra, Townsend & Salah all moved for less than half the price and Mane literally moved from Koeman's Southhampton to them lot for a slightly higher price than Bolasie.

I know it's easy said with hindsight and that there is more to scouting & signings than picking a list like above but Bolasie was a 27-year-old with majority of his career in lower leagues & less than 1 goal contribution every 3.5 games at that level. He was never going to be a success for the amount we paid.

We are still paying for that transfer approach but I'm (cautiously) hopeful with current leadership and outlined strategy.

Steavey Buckley
76 Posted 21/02/2020 at 22:07:41
Never buy players for silly money in their late 20s... no club will never get their money back. Worse still, a person in their late 20s may spend most of their time in the treatment room, while on a silly contract.
Soren Moyer
77 Posted 22/02/2020 at 22:38:13
I wish we could do the same!!!
Steve Ferns
78 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:00:54
Mike, sorry but Bolasie has a 5 year contract, so there will be a year left at the end of the season.

Minik, there is no doubt that Sporting would like to keep Bolasie and there is little more Bolasie can do to convince them to buy him. The simple fact is he is too expensive. They are paying his whole €80,000 a week wage. It’s the wages that is the issue.

It’s very hard to judge Portuguese footballers. There’s three (obvious) clubs who would do well in the premier league, then the rest are championship standard and the bottom few are league one or worse. Which is why Silva performed a miracle doing what he did with Estoril.

Bolasie can look great against the small sides, but that’s just like performing against Lincoln. He did alright in the big matches, but not amazing. He’s clearly one of Sporting’s best players.

They’re in a mess financially now. But they just sold Bruno to Man Utd. The money will be on the drip and what they receive now and in the summer will go on debts. Their model is not to sign Bolasie. They want to buy another Bruno, someone they can use for a couple of years to try and break into the top 2 and then sell for a massive profit. An older player with no resale value is not their model.

Robert Tressell
79 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:12:14
So at best someone will be subsidising his wages on a loan deal next season. A few years ago, he's the sort of player a Chinese club may have bought. That market seems to have fallen away and who would choose to play in China now anyway. MLS or Middle East maybe. Not a bad life for a very limited footballer, is it?

On a completely unrelated note, it's been announced that Ajax have signed young Brazilian Antony for next season. I was hoping Brands might have earmarked him for us. Lovely left-footed right-winger / playmaker.

Brian Harrison
80 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:17:46
I do wonder how long it will take for this club to recover from the total inept spending that Koeman and Walsh embarked upon.

Sandro is another player on loan on a reported £100,000 per week contract. Then we have some overpaid players in the first team squad who don't perform to the level you would expect of players earning between £70,000 and a £100,000 per week.

I am sure Ancelotti must shake his head at the money this club has spent on transfer fees and wages, and having the added problem of having to turn this under performing club around while having to keep an eye on his spending due to FFP rules.

Even with Usmanov trying to offset the FFP by bidding £30 million to be the preferred bidder for the naming rights at Bramley-Moore Dock. I think this summer will prove a massive test for Brands as he tries to move on some of these over-paid players. Many on Champions League club money while turning in Championship performances.

Drew O'Neall
81 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:27:22
If Bolasie is Sporting’s best player and he HAS recovered all of his pace, as reported by Steve Ferns, then I imagine he’d make a decent member of the squad again next year.

Certainly was was better Premier League option than Lookman ever was despite Balloon Head’s astonishingly still unwavering support in some quarters.

Robert Tressell
82 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:49:42
Drew, I wondered that too. But I'm not sure he'd ever get a game. A bit like where we are with Niasse at the moment. Just too many other players ahead of him.
Steve Ferns
83 Posted 23/02/2020 at 11:56:59
One of the better players, Drew. In a poor side that's struggling to hold onto 3rd, and that's when they had Bruno. This is the worst Sporting side for years.

I'd say he looks as quick as he ever did. He regularly gets out his box of tricks and is as infuriating as ever. When they come off and he goes for the afterburners, he has enough pace to get away or get the yard he needs to cross. So, I'd say he has his pace back.

I never thought much of Bolasie though. So for me, he's far short of being a decent Premier League option. He's slower than Gordon. I'd also say he's less effective at the lot. His tricks aren't working as often as I'd expect against Championship level players, they'd fail against Premier League defenders.

I'd loan him out to whoever covers his wages for his final season and consider him released on a free transfer for someone else to worry about. The lad is not good enough, and he never was.

Steve Ferns
84 Posted 23/02/2020 at 12:06:40
Has anyone seen anything of Sandro this season? I note he's scored 1 goal in 16 games and has mainly been playing up top. I also note that he's been stuck on the bench for the last few games and not even getting off it.

He's another with a year left. So, to go back to Brian's point. I think there's another 12 months of pain. Then, we will have lost a load of expensive players:
- Baines - sorry but he's expensive for what he is
- Schneiderlin
- Walcott
- Niasse - leaves this summer
- Bolasie
- Sandro
- Besic
- Garbutt - leaves this summer
- Pennington - yes he really has over 12 months left

You add that lot up and you're talking close to, if not more than, £500,000 per week in wages. That gives us considerably more leverage in the transfer market.

Brian Wilkinson
85 Posted 25/02/2020 at 23:35:48
So the latest reports are they are not going to sign Bolasie, however they are interested in taking him on another season long loan.

Personally I would tell them no and if need be, give Bolasie a run out next season as a squad player, if it does not go well offload him in the January window.

Cannot blame Sporting for using this tactic, but although he would be off the wage bill, I would give the guy one last try until at least the January window.

See if Sporting then back track when we say no and watch how they then stump up.

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