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Kean-to-Roma links persist

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AS Roma remain in the hunt for Moise Keane according to an Italian journalist, with the Serie A club looking to bring the striker home after a difficult year in England.

According to Nicolò Schira, "super agent" Mino Raiola is brokering talks between Roma and Everton about a transfer that would see Kean return to Italy where he hopes he will be more visible and can bolster his hopes of being a prominent part of his country's Under-21s European Champiionships campaign next year.

Schira had reported last month that Roma were looking at the possibility of taking Kean on loan for a season but it could be that Raiola is going for a permanent deal.

Kean joined Everton in a £24m deal last summer amid much fanfare given his reputation as one of Europe's most promising young strikers but he found the going tough in the Premier League, particularly during a time of much upheaval at Goodison Park.

With his compatriot, Carlo Ancelotti, now at the helm, the hope is that the 20-year-old has the guidance and mentorship to see him thrive at Everton but he made headlines for the wrong reasons recently when he was fined two weeks' wages by the club for hosting a party in violation of the coronavirus lockdown orders.

Original Source: @NicoSchira  


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Les Moorcroft
1 Posted 10/05/2020 at 18:47:38
Thought racist chatting was one of the reasons he left. This virus must've sorted that out as well.🤧
John Davies
2 Posted 10/05/2020 at 20:34:33
Get rid of this waste of time and money. He has problems and has yet to grow up, and he hasn't shown any playing potential either. He had discipline problems at Juventus, and the Italian national side as well. This party business was set up by his agent to get a move. Another massive waste of money Everton. Can we please start looking at our youth sides like we used to. Stay safe everyone.
Robert Tressell
3 Posted 10/05/2020 at 20:52:21
It starts to look like Kean may move on. I would like him to stay and succeed and believe he has it in him. If he goes then we need another striker. The most commonly linked replacement is Edouard of Celtic. Could be a good move for more or less the same money we might expect for Kean. Edouard looks a good footballer and not just a poacher of goals for the best side in a crap league. Might be more mature also having settled well at a young age and managed to get by during lockdown without naughty ladies for company. If Kean goes to Roma though then they may not offer cash, it might be more of a chance to swap for Under, Kluivert junior or Pellegrini or someone else. Some scope to turn the deal to our advantage but, like I say, I prefer him to stay and deliver on considerable promise.
Sam Hoare
4 Posted 10/05/2020 at 20:53:34
John@2, not a massive waste of money I don't think. £24m was probably about right for someone considered to be one of the hottest young strikers in Europe.

He's not been given a huge amount of time and I fully expect him to play and score more next season. He's fast and direct though he needs to work on his hold up play and challenging in the air. If he does that he should be a good replacement or alternative to DCL or Richie. Presuming he trains hard, if not then Carlo will ship him out.

If we were to sell him this summer I'd expect us to get back close to what we paid for him. Or perhaps we would have if not for the corona, which will probably see all transfer prices drop 10-30% on what they were 3 months ago.

Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 10/05/2020 at 21:17:59
I also hope he stays, but agree with Sam, that he’s got to improve certain parts of his game, starting with trying to genuinely head the ball.
Martin Berry
6 Posted 10/05/2020 at 21:36:01
Unless decides he wants out for domestic/homesick reasons then there is no way he will be shipped otherwise.
The lad has had "settling" problems but talk of shipping him after one season is ludicrous.
Give the lad some time to get acquainted with what is required for the Premiership, new country, culture and football for goodness sake ! !, I cant believe how impatient some posters are.
If anyone can sort him out then Carlo can, just give the lad time. and we may have something very special on our hands.

Martin Mason
7 Posted 10/05/2020 at 21:54:58
Not sure that him going in a fire sale at a time the markets are badly down would be smart. I trust the management but I'd say that he's worth at least another season.
Clive Rogers
8 Posted 10/05/2020 at 22:35:25
Reading between the lines it sounds like he wants to return to Italy, in which case he has to be allowed to go. He has definitely struggled with the PL and really has not shown any improvement in the weak parts of his game. His attitude also is suspect.
Tony Everan
9 Posted 10/05/2020 at 23:17:17
He is so young, probably too young for him to move abroad and be on the fringe of the team and not getting any meaningful game time. It’s no wonder he’s gone off the rails once or twice. Many would and I’ve got a bit of sympathy for him.

We were so excited by his arrival we were expecting too much too soon. With this lad, at 19 when he arrived, it was always going to be likely it would take a season at least for him to be acclimatised and challenging to start.

When he’s not playing every week then gets a chance he’s just so eager to please it initially wasn’t working out. Confidence didn’t get a look in to take root. It was the same for months, those months were difficult for him.

I thought there were green shoots in January and February, in one or two games he was starting to look the part. He was starting to look a better player and I thought he would have definitely continued to improve towards the season’s end. This boy is not a Niasse, there is a footballer in there ready to blossom big time at 22-23 with more experience , strength and confidence.

Sounds like he wants to go back to Italy, maybe he’s unhappy here for a few reasons. It will be sad to see him go as I wanted to see his potential being fulfilled at Everton. If he does go back on a permanent deal in three years time we will be watching on from afar, thinking what might have been.

With FFP we may have to sell to buy, but ideally, if he insists, tell him he can go back to Italy on loan for next season with guaranteed game time. It will be beneficial for him as I think we brought him over here too young. This young player still needs some time and some games. After the loan he returns in the 21/22 season, comes back to Everton stronger, more mature and ready to prove himself.

Eric Myles
10 Posted 11/05/2020 at 04:57:50
When we signed Kean, the press were amazed that we'd pulled off such a coup and wondered why he would choose a club 'like Everton'.

Now, no doubt, they will be over the transfer saying 'he was too good for Everton' and 'they've ruined the lad'.

Steve Shave
11 Posted 11/05/2020 at 05:51:49
I'm with Rob on this one, I suspect we will get rid of him back to Italy (a swap with Roma for one of those players mentioned makes sense but how often do swap deals actually happen? Not often) and we will go for Edouard. I'd be happy with that outcome.
Robert Tressell
12 Posted 11/05/2020 at 07:59:24
Bit too early to tell but swap deals may become more commonplace as clubs try to avoid transfer fees. Ünder for Kean might work for example as valuation must be about the same (wages who knows). Less so for the high-earning mediocrity we've got too much of. Not sure how we ever shift that.
Sam Hoare
13 Posted 11/05/2020 at 09:41:51
Cengiz Under for Kean could work but I'm not too sure Ancelotti will want to get rid of a young striker who is/was expected to become a leading light for Italy.

Also worth noting that if they still try and finish this season then we will have a lot of games to play in a short time. Probably 4-4-2 with only 3 strikers. Kean will get more game time.

As a youngster he's probably not on substantial wages and he has already done a year of settling in. Any new striker will probably take time to settle too. Plus we will likely be bringing in at least 3 or 4 new players straight into the strongest XI and too much change is seldom ideal. I'd say it makes more sense to keep him but guess it will depend on things that we can't see such as how happy/unhappy he is and how well he works/trains.

Martin Nicholls
14 Posted 11/05/2020 at 09:45:52
Les #1 – correct!

The gist of this thread pre-supposes that we will have a meaningful transfer window this summer, and a 2020-21 season. I have grave doubts over both and I suspect clubs will be similarly cautious about taking on players and the associated wage bills until the situation is very much clearer than it currently is. Clubs cannot and won't simply carry on regardless.

John Davies
15 Posted 11/05/2020 at 13:46:18
Can anyone please give me the games in which he showed potential, and if so what did he actually do?
Paul Jones
16 Posted 11/05/2020 at 15:40:14
Balotelli without the comedy value, pyrotechnics or the talent . May not have settled but cannot see any great potential to justify the fee.
Robert Tressell
17 Posted 11/05/2020 at 17:30:25
It would be interesting to see how Mason Greenwood would have fared if he got sent to play for a mid-table side in Italy after being hounded out of the UK for the colour of his skin. And that side had an out-of-depth manager on arrival that was booted out to be replaced with Marco Matterazzi for a back-to-basics turnaround, then to be replaced by Roy Hodgson. And then Covid-19 meant no dead rubbers at the end of the season to play without too much pressure.

Not a perfect analogy I know but you see what I'm getting at. He may well go but I don't think we can judge based on what we've seen. Personally I'd rather he stayed.

Ray Roche
18 Posted 11/05/2020 at 18:04:54
John Davies@15

Wasn't he MOTM against Newcastle when we blew a 2-0 lead? I'm pretty sure he was.

Joe McMahon
19 Posted 11/05/2020 at 18:26:41
Ray @18, correct Sir. I'd rather he stay and Pickford be sold, it was he who yet again cost us the points.
Tony Everan
20 Posted 12/05/2020 at 16:53:36
Yes Ray, He would have got great morale boosting publicity after that match. He scored made some good runs, his touch was better. Such a shame, for no fault of his own, he hasn’t been able to consolidate that improvement towards the seasons end.
Dave Abrahams
21 Posted 12/05/2020 at 17:01:46
Tony (20), Yes, I think quite a few Everton fans expected Moise to get more game time after that Newcastle game.
Ray Roche
22 Posted 12/05/2020 at 17:55:34
Tony, Joe, Dave,

The fact that he was dropped for the next game mustn't have done his confidence any good. To me, that was a dropped bollock by Ancelotti. The lad was on a high, to drop him was wrong. IMO.

Steve Shave
23 Posted 12/05/2020 at 19:21:37
Agree Ray, it was a surprise to me too. I'm not a fan of the boy yet but how would you have felt if you'd played your best game of the season, scored, ran yourself ragged and then be dropped for the next game? I'm sure the decision was tactical by Carlo but not a good move, especially when Richy can move seamlessly to the wing and provide us with options there.
Jerome Shields
24 Posted 12/05/2020 at 21:07:43
Can't see Everton taking a hit on the transfer value of Kean , because of the Coronavirus. They will want to be make money on him. More likely to take a hit on are long running overvalued deadwood. Kean has to work harder on his game and his role in the Ancelotti setup, which I exspect he will be given a chance to do.
Gaute Lie
25 Posted 14/05/2020 at 00:46:55
If we could get a replacement who don't like to party. I believe the party lifestyle don't mix with being a proper professional in this job.

A lot of players destroyed by fast money and cheap drinks.

Kevin Dyer
26 Posted 18/05/2020 at 11:32:30
If Roma are willing to pay a good fee (£18m+) then offload. Built his rep in a handful of games whilst playing as a sub for the best team in Italy by a mile. A wonderkid for sure but many touted youngsters fail to deliver.

Positives: he's still only 20. Still considered a very good prospect. Lines up a shot quickly. Quick. Direct.

Negatives: shown very little so far. Whilst 20 appears to have the maturity of a 12-year-old. Zero aerial threat. No hold-up play. No obvious link-up play. Suspect workrate. Mediocre ball control. Head seems to drop if things aren't working out. Possibly wants to go home. Idol is Balotelli!

Yes, it must be tough to relocate to a foreign land at 19 when you don't know the language. True budding superstars seem to do okay though (Christiano Ronaldo, Richarlison etc). He's showing all the indications of someone whose deficiencies will hold him back from delivering.

I think so far the fans have given him a free ride. I mean, look at 20-year-old Vlasic. Lad just wanted to play. His only offence was his family back home answering journos' questions saying that he's frozen out, not being given a chance etc. A bad apple and shipped out. Now he's mugging off Madrid at the Bernabeu and in the Croatia national team. Good move!

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