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Allan, Lallana and Thiago Silva links don't jive with Brands plan

| Sunday, 24 May 2020 26comments  |  Jump to last

If you believe the latest transfer speculation — to be taken with a pinch of salt at the best of times but especially now given the uncertain landscape in which the Premier League currently finds itself — Everton are looking at a trio of players decidedly on the wrong side of 27 as summer signings.

That would be at odds with the apparent modus operandi of Director of Football, Marcel Brands, who has been keen to offload dead wood left over from previous managerial regimes and replace it with playing talent aged around 25 or under.

Most likely given the association with Carlo Ancelotti, Napoli midfielder Allan continues to be mentioned in connection with the Blues, with the Serie A side reportedly ready to sell him if a suitable offer is received.

Journalist Nicolò Schira, who has been pumping out Everton-related transfer speculation on a consistent basis, says that Brands and Ancelotti would be prepared to pay around €40m for the 29-year-old Brazilian.

Meanwhile, the Daily Star would have you believe that Everton are among a number of clubs outside the “big six” taking a serious look at 32-year-old England international, Adam Lallana.

His time at Liverpool could be coming to an end but his age combined with his Red credentials make it highly unlikely that he will become the first player to cross Stanley Park in almost two decades.

Finally, Schira also claims that Ancelotti wants to bolster his defence with veteran defender and former player from his days at AC Milan and Paris Saint-Germain, Thiago Silva.

The Brazil stalwart, now 35, could be available this summer if he doesn't sign a new contract with PSG.

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Carl Manning
1 Posted 24/05/2020 at 17:45:00
We need some leaders so I can see logic in Silva.
Si Pulford
2 Posted 24/05/2020 at 18:05:52
I think Brands has a loose philosophy centred around younger players but I've never heard him dismiss the possibility of signing the odd older player. Milner and McAllister at Liverpool, Larssen and Ibrahimovich at Man Utd. Even Distin and Martyn for us.

It would be insane to dismiss the right player at the right price based on age. I still think Giroud would be a great signing for one season for us.

Robert Tressell
3 Posted 24/05/2020 at 23:29:07
The weirdest season on record might well be followed by the weirdest transfer window. Lots of silly rumours, as ever. But this time the sell side and buy side of the market is in complete shock, with implications for price, wages and availability. Might mean putting up with Walcott, Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson for another season.

Could equally mean we end up with one or two bargain superstars (although the proof of the pudding will be in the eating). Those mentioned in this link seem to fall in the middle, expensive (fee and or wages) for those on the wane (or likely to have peaked already, at least).

Alan J Thompson
4 Posted 25/05/2020 at 06:54:28
If all these rumours were true, and some tend to be when a "new" Manager is appointed, as they seem to like bringing in players they've worked with before, but it would mean signing something like 11 and selling about 17. The Director of Football's job seems to be getting bigger with little sign of the wage bill being reduced before contracts expire.
Tony Everan
5 Posted 25/05/2020 at 12:03:10
I do agree that older players should not be totally dismissed, but we shouldn't be paying too much for them (If at all) and their wage demands need to be controlled and more conditional.

Any major investment has to be on top quality younger players aged approximately 24 and under. Hungry players of proven quality making the step up to us to prove themselves as they enter their prime. Buendia at 23 fulfils this criterion and is an example of a player who could be worth investing in If they want to move on to a glamour club at 27 or 28 then that's their prerogative. We recoup a decent fee and repeat the process.

This stratagem makes more commercial sense and also gives us players who are fully motivated to prove themselves younger, fitter, faster and on an upward curve. Incremental improvements through better coaching than they previously had can improve already very good players.

This strategy will be the one that gives us the best chance of breaking into the top 6.

For all that we have hired a brilliant manager in Carlo Ancelotti, he will want at least one player who is his man on the pitch. He hasn't had the opportunity to sign his man yet.

Allen is one of his players and Carlo May want him as his enforcer in the crucial midfield position. Even though this signing would be contrary to our new transfer policy under Mr Brands, if Carlo wants it, he needs to be backed.

The signing would likely have to be counterbalanced by selling Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin, if we can, as next season it is likely they will be overlooked as starters. If they want to play regular football, they will be advised to move.

Geoffrey Hall
6 Posted 25/05/2020 at 20:09:08
Frazer Foster – brilliant Number 2 or maybe Number 1.
Craig Walker
7 Posted 26/05/2020 at 10:21:33
Probably unfounded nonsense or could possibly be a change in direction regarding transfers. Maybe Moshiri wants a more instant impact from signings rather than getting ones for the future with an eye on profitability. As Si Pulford says, not all experienced signings are bad. I remember Paul Power doing a brilliant job for us and there have been many examples down the years. I think Lallana would be good addition, albeit a controversial one. Isn't he a boyhood Evertonian?
Joe McMahon
8 Posted 26/05/2020 at 10:52:51

Paul Power was fantastic, so was Peter Beardsley and Nigel Martyn, but that's a good while back now. But they were all very good players. Lallana, let's face it, isn't, and we don't require him on a huge contract until his mid-40s. The only plus is he knows how to con refs for penalties but, then again, he won't have the Kop helping him or teammates in the ref's face.

Craig Walker
9 Posted 26/05/2020 at 11:19:57
He always looks pretty useful when he plays against us, Joe. Mind you, Igor Biscan looked good playing against us.
Kim Vivian
10 Posted 26/05/2020 at 13:18:22
Gareth Barry deserves a shout.
Paul Jones
11 Posted 29/05/2020 at 07:43:17
Lallana, no why would you sign a 32-year-old who cannot strike a football cleanly.
Mark Murphy
12 Posted 29/05/2020 at 08:36:54
Thiago Silva is 35??!!!

Christ, I feel old!

Sam Hoare
13 Posted 09/06/2020 at 07:42:55
Looks certain that Thiago is leaving PSG. He recently said Carlo was his favourite ever coach and I'd not be surprised to see him join his fellow Brazilians for a year or two at Everton.

He was making a few more errors at PSG last year but is still pretty decent and may bring some belief and experience to a relatively fresh centre-back lineup.

Usually I'd advocate for younger players and would far prefer we bag Gabriel but if his wage demands are reasonable (£60-80k?) then maybe it's worth giving Silva a year or two while the likes of Gibson and Branthwaite hopefully get closer to first-team readiness. Also what funds we do have may need to more concentrated on centre-midfield and right-wing; these are the transfers that I believe will make or break us over next few seasons.

Andrew Clare
14 Posted 09/06/2020 at 08:47:23
It is a backward step to buy players past their prime. I want a vibrant young team – not a bunch of oldies after one last big pay cheque.

Stick with Brands's way of recruitment, don't let Ancelotti bring in his ‘past it' old favourites.

Remember, the best fighters are the hungry fighters.

Tony Abrahams
15 Posted 09/06/2020 at 09:29:10
There is logic in both arguments (old & young players) but I personally think you just can't go on recruiting younger players without giving them a couple of proper experienced older pros to help bring them along.

Silva has gone but, after finishing last season with 8 clean sheets out of 11, it finally looked like we were developing a good team. To then lose Zouma and Gueye, and not properly replace them, really cost us.

I know Gbamin has been unlucky, but it was having no pace at the back that really killed us imo. That's why it's imperative that Brands gets it right this summer, regardless of a player's age.

Andrew Clare
16 Posted 09/06/2020 at 10:27:17
I agree regarding Zouma and Gueye, they were a big loss.
I also agree that some experience is required but I still think that the bulk of the team should be young.
The older players we have been linked with are all at the end of their careers so should not be considered. It’s probably ‘paper talk’ anyway.
Tony Abrahams
17 Posted 09/06/2020 at 11:30:32
Fair enough, Andrew, but one of the best players I've seen in a blue shirt was Richard Gough. The season he played, I thought he was outstanding, giving calmness, authority and experience, but he never played at all during his second season, so, as always, it's a very fine line.
Conor McCourt
18 Posted 09/06/2020 at 12:10:21
As Andrew as alluded to it is these type of signings which I was dreading on Carlo's appointment and really hope this is just lazy journalism.

Tony is spot on about the lack of pace and energy missing from the previous season and Thiago Silva especially is a signing I really would wish to avoid.

No doubt an excellent defender in his prime but after watching a fair amount of PSG with interest on Gana I found Silva to be severely on the wane. He is 35 and would not have the pace for the PL and unlike the likes of Gough who was accustomed to the game here Thiago may struggle with the intensity and physicality also.

The money we would have to invest in wages on Silva I would much prefer to use as the transfer differential between the amount we would need to sign Zouma and what we would get for Keane.

Michael Kenrick
19 Posted 09/06/2020 at 13:06:27
Tony, you say about Richard Gough that, "he never played at all during his second season". Are you sure about that?
Sam Hoare
20 Posted 09/06/2020 at 14:03:58
Conor, that's interesting. I've not watched a huge amount of PSG but have heard a few fans suggest this was his best season in a few years. And some of the stats back this up. Seems like he's still fairly mobile for a 35-year-old.

Usually I'm very anti signing older players and certainly I think we need some pace, so it's not ideal, but I would not be surprised if there are some legs in this one.

Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 09/06/2020 at 15:17:37
No, Michael. He might have played a few games but I'm sure he was injured for a lot of the season, because I don't recall him playing much.
Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 09/06/2020 at 15:24:45
He played nine games including one of the worst results Everton have possibly ever had against Tranmere, but it looks like he had a few months out before this.

He was great during his first season, absolutely impeccable when we won at Anfield, (the last time) but maybe the injury at the start of the next season done him, because his second season was very poor, and he must have known this more than anybody because it looks like he then retired.

Tony Abrahams
23 Posted 09/06/2020 at 15:54:35
Silva must be one incredible athlete and must also have a great will, because he actually had TB in his early days, and only for his mum, I'm certain he was ready to let them do an operation on one of his lungs, which probably would have been the end of his football career, whilst he was a youngster stuck in Russia.
Fran Mitchell
24 Posted 09/06/2020 at 16:22:11
Lallana is probably bull, but saying that, I'd have him ahead of most of our midfield for 2 years.

Thiago Silva is 35, and I've never much rated him either way. But, for one season as we develop Branthwaite and Gibson, could've been a smart move with Holgate and Mina as first choice.

Allan would depend on cost. In his position, he can still have 5 years at the top of his game. It is our weakest area of the pitch, by far. But I can't see any transfer fees above £20 million this summer.

Mike Gaynes
25 Posted 09/06/2020 at 16:32:49
Most of these guys are too old to jive...

...but they definitely don't jibe with the plan.

Sam Hoare
26 Posted 14/06/2020 at 19:21:20
Apparently we are in talks with him. Perhaps there is some sense in getting an experienced CB in to lead the line for a year of two (if the wages are not enormous, which they probably would be) but i'd far prefer Gabriel or someone who could form a partnership with Mina/Holgate over the next 4-5 years.

If we're looking at PSG I hope we are looking at Tanguy Kouassi and Adil Aouchiche; two extremely talented youth players who PSG have allowed to run their contracts down. Probably neither would be first team ready for us but would not be surprised if one or both of those players are being sold for £25m+ in 3 years time.

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