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Hornby set for France move

| Thursday, 04 June 2020 20comments  |  Jump to last
Everton Under-23s striker Fraser Hornby is on the verge of joining Stade de Reims it is being reported.

According to L'Equipe, the 20-year-old will make the transfer to the League 1 side for around £1.8m.

Hornby looked at one stage as though he might have the goods to make the step up to Premier League grade and made his senior debut in the Europa League a couple of years ago but it now appears as though he is surplus to requirements and is about to become the latest young Blue to try his luck on the Continent.

Original Source: L'Equipe via Glasgow Times  


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Tony Everan
1 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:31:17
Wish him good luck, I think he is on the right tracks moving on to prove himself. I will follow his progress.
Sam Hoare
2 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:34:50
It's amazing how clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea seem to get large fee for a lot of their fringe youngster who don't make the grade. £20m for Solanke and £15m for Ibe spring to mind!

I think getting players out on loan earlier can help get them into the spotlight, presuming the loan goes well.

Best of luck to Hornby. He's a handful and I should think he'll make an effective target man somewhere down the line for someone.

Kevin Prytherch
3 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:37:09
Sam - very true. I was amazed at the pitiful amounts we got for Williams and Robinson - especially when Milan were nearly paying around £8 million for him.

Still, a steady stream of Hornbys more than pays for the youth system and makes us a few quid. Hope we have decent sell-on clauses.

Robert Tressell
4 Posted 04/06/2020 at 20:27:07
To be fair, Solanke scored a lot of goals at a young age in Holland, looked a better bet than Calvert-Lewin for England and, I think, Liverpool paid a decent development fee for him. Ibe also looked good, certainly having a good game against us in a derby a few years ago.

Both probably had much better credentials than Hornby (although Bournemouth overpaid, clearly). Hornby looks okay, no great shakes apart from a nice long range lob for Scotland Under-21s. A few goals in Belgium probably merits the relatively small fee.

That said, with the right attitude (displayed by willingness to go overseas and learn / work his way up) it really wouldn't surprise me if he ends up with a decent career (even eclipsing Ibe and Solanke who both appear to have given up after showing early promise). Wish him all the best.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 04/06/2020 at 20:45:00
Robert, how about Kevin Stewart? RS sold him to Hull for £7.5m!!

£20m for Solanke was pretty crazy. Don't think he'd scored a single Premier League goal. I swear they get 20-50% more than they should.

Dave Abrahams
6 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:00:53
Sam (5) I think Solanke got some sort of award when England won the World Cup although Calvert-Lewin scored the winning goal and looked at least as good as him, I think because he had scored most goals in the tournament.
Sam Hoare
7 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:50:00
Dave, yes he won the Golden Ball I think. He was/is a decent prospect but £20m is too much for a kid without senior goals bar a handful in Holland. Bet you if we'd have sold Calvert-Lewin at the same point, we'd have got £10-15m.
Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 05/06/2020 at 02:06:03
Sam, I think there's a big-club premium for young players -- not just the RS but Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Manchester Utd and a few others. There's just little extra cachet to a player coming out of those youth programs -- remember how excited everybody here was about Drenthe because he'd been at Real Madrid? -- and they command a higher price as a result.

That said, I didn't think the price for Solanke was outlandish at the time -- he really did look a top-class talent at youth level. But we can all think of examples of spectacular U20s who never really cut it with the grownups.

David Midgley
9 Posted 05/06/2020 at 08:57:41
Doesn't anyone rate him?

We will lose millions on Bolasie. Tosun and Niasse reportedly on £55/50k. Cuco £35k per week.

Is he that bad that they won't give him a chance to develop? Loan him out to the French side. The amount of money involved seems paltry to me for the return, are EFC so short of £2 Million?

Phill Thompson
10 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:34:57
I remember watching Hornby play midfield for Scotland U17s a few years ago and he looked skilfull but not particularly pacy. Then we converted him to a striker because of his height. And that's about it.

He's good at playing with his back to goal, holding the ball up, but none of the speed and ability to run wide we saw from Calvert-Lewin at a similar age. He doesn't look like a natural goalscorer.

In his favour is that he's still relatively new to the striker role, only a few seasons, so could continue to improve, as he learns more.

I wouldn't have the balls to make these very tough decisions on which youngsters we keep or let go but somebody has to. Simms is a far better prospect, with Lewis Dobbin coming along fast and Tom Cannon as well.

The reality is if one of those becomes a regular Premier League goalscorer we will be doing well statistically speaking. Good luck to him, I hope he does well.

Tony Everan
11 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:35:28
In addition to the cachet of playing for the likes of Real Madrid, Juve etc, when a young player is introduced to such as side he is playing alongside world-class players. Sometimes playing the last 30 mins against Osasuna or Chievio when Real or Juve are already 3-0 up.

It's an extreme example but it can make the young players for those sides look like world-beaters when, in fact, they have proved much less. This gold-plated introduction could also be detrimental when having to face the real world, after being transferred, and having to fight for every single point.

These things have to be factored in when making any such signings, especially expensive ones.

Martin Berry
12 Posted 05/06/2020 at 16:52:13
He should get his career back on track.

Good luck to him in his future.

Mike Gaynes
13 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:01:41
David #9, the good news is the salaries of Bolasie, Niasse, Garbutt, Ramirez and Martina all end this month. That'll save well over £200,000 a week combined.
Robert Tressell
14 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:14:39
Bolasie and Ramirez are on the payroll until 2021 unfortunately. Both destined for another loan presumably until leaving for free next summer.

Mike Gaynes
15 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:16:56
Robert, you're right, I misread the information on Transfermarkt. Thanks for the correction.

By the way, just in case you can't remember what it looks like, here's Sandro scoring. Twice in the three games right before the leagues stopped. The second one was a beauty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkgCeYEOxQ at 2:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM62djZI1GI at 3:07

Rarer than rain in the Sahara.

Eric Paul
16 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:18:09
Tony@11,

I read an article by Rogan Taylor a few years ago, in which he mentioned how much money Man Utd made by selling average players from their youth ranks for inflated fees. This was due to the fact that they were so dominant at the time they could give them a lot of exposure thus turning them into household names by virtue of the football media at the time.

James Flynn
17 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:24:28
Mike (13) - Wish that you were right. Bolasie and Sandro contracts run thru the 2021 season.
Paul Birmingham
18 Posted 06/06/2020 at 09:00:00
I wish the lad well. And a successful career. At times in the last few seasons watching Fraser, he looked to be developing well and looked to have the right physical attributes and positional off-the-ball movement and decision-making looked like areas for development.

Hand on heart, I am no longer sure of the Finch Farm development strategy and what 'good' looks like, what 'exceptional' looks like etc.

Seems we are producing one world-class player approx; every 20 years... Rooney stands head and shoulders above the rest of the players who've made it to the first team having come through the Everton youth development cycle. It makes you wonder what happens at Finch Farm...

On another note, Iversen looks a player in my opinion with some mentoring and coaching, I wonder if he'll make it?

All stay safe and well home and offshore, as the UK media suggests the Covid-19 R factor is now greater than 1 in the North-West and generally on the increase across the UK.

Frank Crewe
19 Posted 07/06/2020 at 10:27:54
"But we can all think of examples of spectacular U20s who never really cut it with the grownups."

Moise Kean springs to mind.

Kenny Smith
20 Posted 09/06/2020 at 12:37:39
Good luck to him for being brave enough to make the move. Sometimes you have to move backwards to eventually go forward.

If he's not going to get a sniff of the first team, then what's the point in hanging around? He's shown some ambition and should be applauded.

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