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Everton remain interested in Zaha

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Everton are expected to revisit their attempts to sign Wilfried Zaha with Crystal Palace increasingly resigned to losing their prize asset this summer.

According to The Mirror, the Blues are "preparing a bid" for the 27-year-old whom they reportedly tried to sign a year ago. Palace held firm on an astronomical valuation of the winger and are said to be looking for £100m this time around.

Zaha has consistently been linked with Arsenal but Mikel Arteta is said to be eyeing a free-transfer swoop for Chelsea's Willian instead. If so, that would limit the number of suitors for Zaha who could potentially offer him a step up from Selhurst Park while also being interested in signing him.

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Gavin Johnson
1 Posted 28/07/2020 at 00:21:29
A little sickening that Palace are now ready to do business on Zaha after realising he clearly doesn't want to be there and we've now blown the fee on Iwobi. The Mirror reckon we could make a bid. I really don't see this happening unless they'd accept Iwobi and a fee.
Joe Corgan
2 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:03:26
£100M for Zaha would be daylight robbery. Even £40M would be pushing it. Looks good in a Palace shirt but failed at Man Utd.

Last time we had our pants pulled down by a smaller club for a player who “returned home” after failing at a top-six club, we ended up with Sigurdsson.

And as for Arsenal's interest... Zaha or Willian? They're hardly comparable players are they?

Gavin Johnson
3 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:07:32
While we could buy him for a realistic fee now, Palace want to do business. I really think that boat's sailed unless Palace would accept a player exchange with us stumping up cash and them having Iwobi. Seems unlikely doesn't it?!

Btw, I believe there's an error in this article. I read the Mirror and it read to me that they wanted £100M last season. Thus pricing him out of a move. Palace want to cash in now.

Laurie Hartley
4 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:13:24
Please no.
Kieran Kinsella
5 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:31:58
Surely just journos recycling old stuff? Supposedly (according to a recent Echo article) it was Silva who was driving the Zaha pursuit. He’s since gone, Zaha has done very little of note.
Derek Thomas
6 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:42:13
Last year it was £80M, now they want £100M. In the words of Darryl Kerrigan...

"How much does he want?"

"£100M."

"Tell him he's fuckin dreaming."

I wouldn't take him for what we paid for Walcott or Bolasie, have we learned nothing? – seems not.

Do we have a renowned Director of Football, or some kid playing Football Manager on a Play Station? No wonder Martin Mason spewed it... hopefully it's just paper talk, but this is Everton.

Bill Gienapp
7 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:32:58
£100-million?!?!? The guy scored one more goal than Bernard this season.
Jim Harrison
8 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:35:25
At the right price yes. Big, strong, fast. Has scored goals and assists up until last year, but £100 million? No chance.
Mike Gaynes
9 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:47:44
Actually, last year Palace supposedly turned down £40M from us and Arsenal, don't know if it's true but they wanted £70M.

And then he scored four goals -- only 1 in their last 21 games when they were fighting to stay up. Way to come through under pressure, dude.

And now they want ONE HUNDRED MILLION?? Insane. Plus he gets £130,000/week. Insane-er.

Offer 'em the same £40M we offered last year, and we're guaranteed to be high bidder. And that's only if Carlo wants the guy as much as Silva did.

Or go get Lozano or a half-dozen other possible candidates for less.

Steve Ferns
10 Posted 28/07/2020 at 03:30:26
It was supposedly Moshiri who wanted Zaha.
David Ellis
11 Posted 28/07/2020 at 04:00:43
No.
Bob Parrington
12 Posted 28/07/2020 at 04:14:03
No way, Jose! At no price. No longer worth the salary. We need to build not just embellish.
Alan J Thompson
13 Posted 28/07/2020 at 05:49:44
Only if it is a player(s) exchange and there is no cash involved, ie, Bolasie (one of their own), Tosun (who they've already seen) and Iwobi (a London lad?). Sorts out a couple of problems on both sides.
John Graham
14 Posted 28/07/2020 at 06:26:56
Not the type of player we need at the moment. Great on his day but too inconsistent and disappears when things aren't going his way.

We need players who will battle and get involved. Someone who makes things happen and will encourage other players by taking the game to other teams.

Paul Hewitt
15 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:10:01
The players we are getting linked with is frightening. I wouldn't buy any of them.
John Malone
16 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:14:37
The article actually says Palace would accept £40 million in the current climate. I don't think many clubs can afford that but I would take him all day long and I think we could get him by giving them Cenk Tosun plus £20 million.
Dan Nulty
17 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:33:19
I'd only take him now if we got rid of a load of deadwood to pay for it and he was cheap. Not playing at the level we need and can't see him improving at 27.
John Zapa
18 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:48:33
Exactly the kind of foolish signing you would expect the club to make these days. Overpay for a player who had a poor season who's best times seem to be behind him. They would probably make him the highest earner too, then loan him to Charlton or QPR in 2 years after he flops here.
Robert Tressell
19 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:00:48
Nope. This is deja vue bollocks. Looks like Zaha now desperate to leave and palace trying to generate interest. Sarr from Watford is a better bet.
Trevor Peers
20 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:16:41
If this report is true, it means we have learned nothing. We are continuing on our downward spiral into the relegation zone. Why don't we look at players who have a genuine goal-scoring record over many years? Zaha isn't a goalscorer and would cost a fortune.

I like many other life-long Evertonians are beginning to lose interest in Everton they are a hopeless case, a badly run club from top to bottom and the money they have wasted is unforgivable.

Tony Everan
21 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:20:01
I like Alan's idea #13,

Tosun, Bolaise, Iwobi, even Sigurdsson exchanged for Zaha in some sort of combination there is a deal to be done. But as Robert says there may be better options for us like Sarr, if Watford are open to some player + negotiations.

Any other scenario it is total nonsense. Maybe we are happy for this to be circulated as we can concentrate on sorting out our central midfield signings with a bit less scrutiny.

Kenny Smith
22 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:26:45
2 years ago maybe but despite being better than what we have he's not what we need right now. He's not hungry enough.

Yeah we 100% need power and pace but I'd look elsewhere. There are bargains about and I'd rather see us bring in someone who will be a star like Eberechi Eze from QPR at £20 million rather than waste at least double that on Zaha who is on his way out. Have we learnt nothing from the Walcott, Iwobi and countless other deals.

Eddie Dunn
23 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:32:25
I can't see why this guy gets so much media attention. He has been ordinary in Woy's system this year, and has no goals in his locker. An overpriced distraction.
Mal van Schaick
24 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:36:04
Another headless chicken going around in circles. No thanks. Zaha and Richarlison will be having the best dive or fall over competition.
Tony Everan
25 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:39:14
Kenny, It's a good point whether Zaha has the hunger and mental commitment required, particularly coming up north to play for us. Consideration has to be given to the fact he was desperate for an Arsenal transfer last summer, but they wouldn't pay over the odds.

If they took Tosun, Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Delph, Sandro, and Besic in some combination with no cash adjustment, the deal would be in our favour and is worth looking at.

Steve Brown
26 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:45:00
Tony @ 21, inspired idea from Alan and yourself.

If we add Walcott, it's a "buy one, get four free" deal that clears over £20 million off our wage bill a year!

Though we might want to hold this back for someone better than Zaha now I think about it.

Andrew Ellams
27 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:46:58
We could sign Everton Soares, Leon Bailey and Allan for that.

Zaha's moment has gone and I don't see him leaving Palace any time soon.

Kunal Desai
28 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:47:13
Not for us and would probably turn out to be another Bolasie. I think he'll go for a cut-price deal to somewhere like Spurs.
Ray Roche
29 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:52:25
Lads, can we just step back a stride or two and leave all the ‘Have we learnt nothing' comments alone? This is a ‘report' from a lazy Mirror journalist or work experience youth passing the time between making the tea and running an errand so let's not use it to have a pop at the club etc.

No one on TW knows if we're really interested or not.

Joe McMahon
30 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:01:58
Nope, yet again, we are too late. We should have moved in when he left Man Utd. Just like we never went for Vardy when the time was right when Lukaku left, or never made a move for Virgil Van Dijk, when he was still at Celtic.

It's always too late. The last time there was any vision was bringing in Barry, Lukaku and Deulofeu. (Richarlison and Digne accepted).

Anthony Hawkins
31 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:05:45
I'm hoping that most of these stories are lazy journalism recycling stories.

We need players who are on the up, not on the way down. We need some of their best years, not paying during their decline.

Robert Tressell
32 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:06:00
I could see him being priced out of the move he's obviously desperate for again this summer. Too good for Palace, not quite good enough for Champions League clubs. Sounds a bit like how you'd describe Sigurdsson when he joined us. I'd be amazed if we're remotely interested in this player now.
Tony Shelby
33 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:10:41
Overrated, under-performing, attitude problem, over-priced...

...sounds perfect for us.

Richard Lyons
34 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:14:21
Tony #21 - you like Alan's idea #13?

Me too. Let them have Tosun, Bolasie, Iwobi and Sigurdsson.

In fact, I'm not even that bothered about getting Zaha in return...

Christopher Timmins
35 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:18:28
Maybe we could do a swap, Sigurdsson, Iwobi and Delph with no cash changing hands. It gets rid of three problems at a stroke!

Si Pulford
36 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:43:43
Trevor Peers,

It's all very well looking at players with a ‘proven goal record over many years' – but they don't want to play for us!! Name one that is available that would sign for us.

We all want Champions League players but we're not a Champions League club. The likes of Tosun, Sigurdsson, Bernard and Iwobi are as much a reflection of where the club is at the moment as the transfer policy. Put simply: we have to roll the dice and often end up with average players that no-one else wants because they're the only players we can attract. Not qualifying for Europe will maintain that.

It's the FFP status quo that ensures the elite stay elite. Add the continuation of the 5 subs rule next season and I doubt any team not currently in the top 7 will be able to break the top 7. And so it continues.

Trevor Peers
37 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:51:31
Si,

Lukaku wanted to play for us. It's all about recruitment, that's the job of the club's management and hierarchy. Of course there are players who would be willing to play for us – that's nonsense.

Sam Hoare
38 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:56:19
Palace should maybe have sold him last summer. He's had a very mediocre season and surely no-one will pay close to the £60-70M they could have had last year. He looks a £30M player to me now. If that.

You'd be much better off going for Saint-Maximin who is younger, completes more dribbles and loses the ball less often. Perhaps that is who we should have bought instead of Iwobi. Or Eze from the Championship.

Andrew Brookfield
39 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:59:01
I really don't understand the negativity towards Zaha, he is far superior to anything we have at Everton on the wings.

Strong, fast, powerful – imagine Everton playing on the break with Zaha and Richarlidson taring away.

He's got brilliant control, can easily beat a man, and has proven he can score goals. At Palace, he is their only real threat, so teams double-mark him but, with our strike force, they would be unable to do this.

Zaha, Richarlison, and Calvert-Lewin gives you a very tall, powerful, fast front three. For me, he's much less of a gamble than signing Everton or Lorenzo.

Like many have said, I also think we have a number of players who Palace would be interested in, so if we swapped Iwobi + £20M, I still think that would be good for both parties.

Clive Rogers
40 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:59:28
His ship has sailed. He was at his peak two or three years ago and at 27 his looking for his last big payday.
Andrew Ellams
41 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:01:57
Trevor,

Lukaku was a teenager with one season of experience on loan at a club that were relegated. He's just a gamble that paid off.

Anthony Murphy
42 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:04:12
Anthony, I think that's right – we need players on the way up who have a real hunger to prove themselves. We used to be the masters of this not too long ago and need to implement such a strategy again.

If we signed Zaha, he would move reluctantly because none of the so-called big boys wanted him – we would pay over the odds and his wages would be astronomical. Best to dig out that rough diamond.

Sam Hoare
43 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:05:50
Andrew @39, being better than our wingers is a pretty low bar though! You're right that Zaha is still a very decent player but, at this point, his reputation and price tag may be greater than his genuine ability.

I'd take him at Everton in a heartbeat if we could swap Iwobi and Tosun for him.

I suspect that Palace (and Zaha himself) will be holding out for a big payday which I think could be better invested on younger wingers with their best years ahead of them. But I'd definitely have him if the price was right!

Liam Reilly
44 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:07:52
The money being quoted is obscene for Zaha. We'd blow most of our reportedly low budget on one player who blows notoriously hot and cold.

We need to learn lessons of the past and invest in young, hungry players along with more affordable senior players like Allan.

Kim Vivian
45 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:14:43
Please God, no.

This would be as bad as Bolasie at £30m.

I don't see many clubs in the queue for him.

Fran Mitchell
46 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:21:13
At the right price, okay. But that would have to be under £30 million. Maybe offer Bolasie and Sigurdsson, straight swap no fee.

If we were to spend £40 million on anyone, we should go for Sarr from Watford. Gonna be a top-level player.

Trevor Peers
47 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:21:46
Andrew #41.

We already bought a player in Richarleson, who on his day is up there with the very best, so it can be done. Silva can take the credit for that one.

Every signing is a gamble and we the supporters have no say in who we buy, recruitment management at the club is rotten to the core. The whole situation needs sorting out if we are ever to move forward.

I don't trust Brands; I think he's bought garbage, maybe we should start by removing him.

John Kavanagh
48 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:25:21
The new Bolasie, when we can't get shut of the old one. Only viable in exchange for our forest of deadwood but unfortunately no other club is as stupid as ours. Another rotten egg for the overflowing Everton basket.

I also await the usual arrival of Man Utd rejects and Man City cripples for the new season with less than overwhelming enthusiasm.

ps: If they're willing to take Delph in part-exchange, I'll pay for the ambulance to take him there.

Kim Vivian
49 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:31:52
Bloody hell - 38 appearances, 4 goals, £100m?????!!!!!

That puts Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison alongside Ronaldo.

Jason Li
50 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:47:12
Andrew @ 39 - Absolutely agree.

Possibly in the past is a fear of taking on these types of players and also the media scrutiny we would suffer. But we've now got a big manager who acts like we're a big club again.

We can take this on and push for the Champions League with 2/3 very good signings. Carlo can handle it and make the players deal with the pressure. None of our previous managers in the last 20 years could ever handle 4 or 5 star players and the media trying to pick holes in everything.

It'll take us a few weeks to get used to being a big club again next season, but that's where we are from September when Carlo gets us off and running with his squad evolution.

The change is like when we changed from Primary school to Secondary school, we're going to have to get used to it. Carlo is our Secondary school phase all of a sudden. Again, trust Carlo, we are going right to the top next season!

2nd thing I'm going to throw in that will mean things have changed, is that if we keep Pickford, he will be a brilliant keeper next season if we are pushing top four as he looks like he's coasting and in two minds about the team. Top players want challenges, and when he performs he is a really top performer.

If he can see the club going for Champions League places and all that glory and cameras, I think he will be the keeper we need to handle the big club occasions when we take on the best in Europe away at grounds where fans spend more time harassing keepers rather than watching the game.

He needs pressure to perform, he's a different type of player to the average Premier League player whose just happy to be there. In fact the opposite of Bernard who celebrates every pass over 20 yards or shot on goal as an achievement.

But yes, I think Pickford is the right keeper and he won't be as bored next season when the Champions League challenge is put in front of him to play his part, and we'll see him stretch to his full potential in terms of concentration and dedication.

Kevin Prytherch
51 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:47:17
If Zaha and Allan come to fruition, then what is the point of Marcel Brands???
Andrew Ellams
52 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:11:55
There are a lot of people concerned about Allan's age on the thread regarding his transfer but to me this team is crying out for some experience in the middle of park and the defence and some younger more dynamic players in attack.
Andrew Keatley
53 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:23:10
On his day, Zaha is a terrific player, but I'm not sure he has the attitude and the temperament that we require right now. I'd rather see us being very selective in our recruitment and trying to target a handful of players who might give us more resilience and endeavour.
Sam Hoare
54 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:30:04
Fran @46,

Yes, I'd definitely be looking at Sarr. He had a pretty good debut season in the Premier League and could do even better in a team with more talent. He's super fast and gets enough goals and assists to suggest he could be a serious counter-attacking weapon.

He probably won't be good enough to break into the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd etc so, if he wants to stay in the Premier League and get good wages, we could be one his best bets. Trouble is... how much Watford would want for their one profitable asset – and how much they hate us.

Steve Shave
55 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:48:08
Yup, I'm warming to the idea of Sarr as our right-midfield option, Sam. Right age, blistering pace. Our relationship with Watford might be a barrier.

I would walk from Zaha, that ship has sailed, unless by some miracle they accepted some players, eg, Iwobi, Tosun, Bolasie... Sigurdsson (this might be the only way we can shift some of these boys in a swap deal).

Martin Berry
56 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:48:47
From what I have learned is that wide players like Zaha are a waste of money and vastly overpriced, look at the money we have wasted in the past on wide players who offer next to nothing for the team.

Examine the Premier League and how many are there that are effective.
We should be spending that type of money on midfield and pacy full-backs.

Far better having pacy attacking full-backs and three "snappers" in the midfield to stop the opposition's possession.

I remember Sir Alf saying to Alan Ball and Nobby Stiles, "You win the ball in midfield and give it the players who can hurt the opposition."

For me this is still true and a 4-3-3 is the way to go.

Vijay Nair
57 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:49:44
Honestly, rather than waste a ton of money on Zaha (and don't kid yourself, Palace won't let him go for cheap), I would rather bring Deloufeu back.

Same age, has matured since his time with us, and would probably cost half the price. He can also play on both flanks, though not left-footed.

The lad still has a soft spot for the club.

John Daley
58 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:11:38
I don't get the downer on Zaha at all.

How many players in our squad do you think an opposing manager or players cast a wary eye over and think "We're going to have to deal with him today"? Richarlison... maybe?

We have wide men with all the creative ability of a post ‘flesh wound' Black Knight from Monty Python with a big tub of Play Doh plonked in front of the twat's torso, a midfield totally bereft of pace, physicality and invention, very few prepared to get on the ball and drive at a defence, a chronic lack of match winners and absolutely nobody who has flabby middle-aged male arses twerking like Miley Cyrus on seats in the main stand in anticipation of something happening whenever he receives the ball.

Zaha would instantly be our best player... by some distance... and I'd rather spend even £80M for someone who can create opportunities from nothing and is genuinely good to watch than 3 more middling, one-paced, sideways-passing, responsibility-shirking, plodders to pad out a squad already fit to burst with such shitehawks.

The talk of him ‘failing' at Man Utd is harsh considering the lack of actual opportunities he was given to show he could make it there (a grand total of 4 games), being loaned straight back to Palace and then sent out again to Cardiff. Especially from Evertonians, when you take into account which manager was handed the responsibility of bringing him through at Old Trafford and his reticence in relying on younger players (along with his mistrust of ‘flair' if sweaty sedulousness could be sought instead) when he was in charge here.

Comparisons between his big move not working out and Sigurdsson flopping at Spurs are easy to make, simply because he currently stinks the place out for us week after week after arriving for an eye-watering fee, but the Icelandic eunuch always had a limited skill set even back then, with his much vaunted ‘career stats' being propped up almost entirely by set-piece productivity... but a past ‘failing' doesn't fence off future success.

Arteta failed to make it at Barcelona and didn't produce anything special at PSG, Rangers or Sociedad, but it was obvious he always had great natural ability and he was a class above anything Everton had when he turned up at Goodison a more mature player and was able to inject much needed flair into a hard working but moribund side.

Zaha has that natural ability in spades and has also shown at Palace he can accept the mantle of being the ‘main man' and carrying the side at times.

He's not just another ‘wide player who offers next to nothing for the team'. At Palace, almost everything goes through Zaha. He relieves pressure on the defence by driving forward, he draws 2 or 3 players to him every time he gets on the ball, instantly freeing up space for others because defenders know you can't leave a teammate one-v-one with him. Ask James Milner:

“I would honestly say the one who has troubled me most on a one-to-one basis is Wilfried Zaha. I've been sent off twice for Liverpool and they've both been for fouls against him. He's such a difficult opponent, not just because he's got great ability but because he's so unpredictable. With most players, if you're up against them, one to one, you've got a good idea what they're going to do. Zaha is a nightmare to play against.”

He can hold the ball up or release it quick, he gets involved in link-up play, can spot a through ball, puts in crosses, is decent in the air, and can create chances on his own.

He would be a huge signing for Ancelotti.

John Hammond
59 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:12:09
I think Palace will be lucky to get £30m for him. I was up for this last year but perhaps we should be looking elsewhere now.

The only problem I see is that this was a player Moshiri wanted so Ancelotti might not have a say. You'd hope Brands has told him to stop meddling!

Sam Hoare
60 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:13:53
Steve @55, yes Watford bought him for £27M so don't see any way they ask for less than £30-35M.

I wonder if there's any players we could give them that might appeal and soften their stance. Kenny perhaps or Bolasie. Maybe Dowell.

We've got so many players to get rid of that I think swaps might suit us well this summer. For example, we could try Kenny + £10M for Max Aarons.

Jason Li
61 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:19:35
Good shout, Vijay.

Bring back Deulofeu and Barkley. With Allan, that's a cracking midfield:

Calvert-Lewin Richarlison
Gordon Barkley Allan Deloufeu
Digne Holgate Keane ???
Pickford

Robert Tressell
62 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:36:03
Sarr has looked good. Took the responsibility of being the creator in a 4-4-2 with Deeney & Welbeck up top.

I saw a clip a while back of Sadio Mane in a tunnel telling the Watford boys they have a real player on their hands but he needs looking after cos he's shy. Seems to be coming out of his shell a bit more.

With Zaha, I think he's tried the north-west before, it didn't work out, he's at home in London and wants Arsenal or Spurs. That's a bit different to the Højbjerg situation where he might prefer Spurs but has no aversion to Everton. I get the impression that Zaha actually has an aversion to joining Everton. I could see him ending up at West Ham.

Swaps are an interesting concept. I guess we should ask how we'd feel getting Lindelof, Smalling or Luke Shaw if, say, Digne went to Man Utd. Some pros and cons certainly.

Bobby Mallon
63 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:54:46
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Scott Hall
64 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:56:42
Please, please no. Have we learned nothing from shelling out millions and millions on big fish from small ponds? Zaha isn't even a big fish, he's right at home in a small pond. Leave him there.

He'll be another one Instagraming photos of his cars and clothes, dabbing, and whatever other shite is apparently cool these days. Oh, and he might occasionally get around to playing a bit of football if he feels like it... no guarantees on that though because Instagram is busy work.

Stephen Vincent
65 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:57:24
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, definitely no. Our big spend needs to be someone we need and who we know can do the job. Centre-midfield really is the top priority; if we are going to spend big on one player, that is where it should be.

Thomas Lemar at Atletico is having a bad time. Two years ago, he was the next big thing wanted by most of the big clubs, made the French team at the World Cup, went to Spain and disappeared without trace. Got to be worth a thought, years younger than Zaha and a better player.

Paul Birmingham
66 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:58:49
For me, no. I hope it's the usual media bullshit.
Steven Astley
67 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:04:20
I'd do a straight swap for Pickford.

That will finally finish Palace off.

Brent Stephens
68 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:09:32
And we're now being linked with Ivanovic, ex-Chelsea.
Kevin Murray
69 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:13:45
Give them Pickford, Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Davies, Delph, Tosun and Bernard and no cash changes hands. I would be genuinely happy with that!
Sam Hoare
70 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:18:11
We've also been linked with Jeremie Boga (once of Chelsea) who's had a tremendous season with Sassuolo and has the best dribble stats in Europe. He wouldn't be cheap but if he could bring some of his form from this season (11 goals and 2 assists) then he'd be a very useful asset.

Or in the Eredevisie, Luis Sinisterra looks an excellent winger who can play on the right (though he prefers the left).

Jack Convery
71 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:21:25
If money's tight, Vertonghen on a free is a no-brainer. Centre-back and also plays at left-back – two for the transfer fee of sod all.

Zaha, yes at £25M – no more. Swap for Tosun with some money – Palace get the money, of course!

Vijay Nair
72 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:29:20
Jason (61), I'm not so sure about Barkley. As bad as our midfield is, I don't think he'd be that much of an improvement. I certainly wouldn't drop Gomes for him.

Also, the way he screwed us over when he left, I don't think Ross is a very popular figure with most Evertonians.

Jack Convery
73 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:31:34
I meant to also mention that, whoever scouted Richarlson and Sarr at Watford is someone we should bring in immediately. Get them before we have to pay a fortune.
Nathan Jones
74 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:40:04
I was living in Cardiff when Zaha went on loan there from Manchester Utd. Yes, he was young and probably a little down after being not shown much love by Man Utd, but he was terrible and this was a woeful Cardiff team who finished bottom of the league.

The consensus among the Cardiff fans was that he didn't know how to play a game of football. I saw him a few times, usually as a sub as he couldn't hit the team. He had tricks and flicks and would probably win a football freestyle competition but, as a football player, he was useless. I wouldn't want him regardless of the price.

He has no end product so it's all a matter how much Everton waste? £80M, £50M £30M or even £10M. You've still wasted millions.

Derek Knox
75 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:40:57
I agree with most on here, that paying a high fee alone for Zaha would be counter productive. Yes, he is a talented player who would be a lot better with quality players alongside, but I would prefer a player plus cash rather than a massive fee.

Of the ones mentioned as makeweights, I suppose Tosun and possibly Iwobi would be of interest to them; I would very much doubt they would have Bolasie back but, if they did, it would free up another on the gravy train wage bill.

Only time will tell... but again, if Carlo fancies them, then who are we to differ? I think he knows more than we do and is privy to what happens at Finch Farm etc.

Jason Li
76 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:42:45
Vijay, true. But we should forgive too he is still a Blue, like Rooney is after he left. He is a top player, domestic and in Europe, won't need bedding in. But won't happen anyway.
Soren Moyer
77 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:43:33
Nah! That boat has sailed.

Also, if we sign him, Brands needs to go.

Next!

Paul Jones
78 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:46:36
Zaha to me is reminiscent of Sigurdsson – a player who never made it at Spurs who went back to what was apparently his level, the finesse in an otherwise ordinary team looking down rather than up.

Then, along comes some "fixer" to make a profitable deal for all concerned (apart from the buying club). Although the owner might legitimise himself by moving some "Monopoly" money that can't be spent where someone looks too hard.

Erik Dols
79 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:59:00
Apparently we're interested in Ciro Immobile as well. I love the player, 23, 29, 15 and 34 (and counting) league goals in Serie A in the last 4 seasons. I‘d prefer Immobile over Zaha any day.
Jon Wit
80 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:47:23
No point blowing tons of money on more players who haven't quite made it – just makes us the suckers who provide the last great pay day and then we get stuck with the wage bill too.

If he was a reasonable price... but he won't be.

Tony Abrahams
81 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:47:48
Maybe with a couple going the other way makes sense Derek, but I now expect Everton to spend big because I keep reading how much they are not going to spend, because they spent over £117 million last summer.

If they wouldn’t have signed Iwobi, they would have nearly broke even, so hopefully the PR machine is getting revved up, and Tosun, Bolasie and Iwobi, are all getting ready to leave.

David Pearl
82 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:51:26
We've been linked to Zaha, Bailey, Lozano, Soares, Boga; so if you're Brands you have to ask yourself...

Who would cost the most and not be available to play for 8 weeks after signing?

Duncan McDine
83 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:52:51
Eric, I hope you're right about the mobile Italian... he's class.

Zaha can be a great player when he's up for it, but I don't think he's the right guy for us.

Jay Harris
84 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:01:26
I can't understand all the negativity towards Zaha. He has been an outstanding player for the last 3 or 4 seasons.

He doesn't set the fee Palace and the market do. If they ask too much they will have an unsettled player on their hands.

He is a player who would definitely improve our squad.

Whether we can do some swaps or spend a chunk of limited transfer funds is another matter which only Carlo and Brands can decide.

Personally I would lean more towards a solid in-your-face aggressive midfield player who can score goals as a priority. (Maybe a swap with Kenny and McKennie.)

Mark Rankin
85 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:39:38
Important lesson in when to sell; last year, a number of teams were willing to pay big. This year... tumbleweed.
Ian Horan
86 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:49:13
Wasn't it a 2019 summer spend of £107M and income on sales of circa £74M. So a net spend of £33M.

I don't believe for one second Moshiri won't back Carlo. If not backed can see Carlo, say arrivederci now it's time to sink or swim!!

If it's sink, we will be bottom 5 next year. Hammers with Moyes will go all KITAP1, Leeds have ambition. So possibly EFC, Villa and maybe whoever wins the playoff. It's quite scary when you look at our team's performance since they played the last 9 games.

Brian Wilkinson
87 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:49:15
Carlo had a meeting with Moshiri and has said he wants all the dealings in any future incoming and outgoing transfers before Brands does the dealings and said he wants to bring Immobile in.
Kevin Molloy
88 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:53:46
This will be Zaha's agent trying to wake the market, and rouse interest after a less than stellar season. I'm not wholly convinced we should spend £100 million on Wilf.

But, if we did, I would have to take my hat off to Farhad and say I didn't think it was possible for a billionaire to lose it by blowing the lot on Everton whilst moving us down the table, but fair play – you're proving me wrong!

Tony McNulty
89 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:04:42
I'm sure Richarlison would like him to join us. Then the opposition would have more than one forward to kick.

I wonder though, how often during games we would end up with only nine players on their feet.

Not sure his head is always right and the ship may have left port, as someone says above. But, if we could get him at a post-Covid price rather than something on the Iwobi-scale, he would, as Joe Royle might put it, "Put bums on seats."

I can't see it happening, unfortunately; Palace would want silly money.

John Pierce
90 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:22:00
Is this a player on the up? He looks to have stalled playing with shite each week, yeah so he's gonna fit in great here!

A lot has been penned on this site about finding players with the right temperament, occasionally you do have room for a maverick.

Zaha notably has a poor attitude. He often sulks, has repeatedly wanted to leave Palace, and has failed at Man Utd. Is he that good for us to accommodate him? Would his attitude change playing with a better squad?

I think his value has peaked. I'm constantly surprised how poor his passing judgement is, he gets double sometimes tripled marked and insists on beating them rather than drawing in a releasing the ball to create overloads. That's who and not a player who will make us better. A big fish in a small pond.

I'm only interested in players who have a good temperament and want to get better. I've never seen this in his play.

So it's a Yes from me!!!

Derek Knox
91 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:22:48
Brian @87, I would have thought on this season's evidence we have more than enough immobile players! :-)
Mike Gaynes
92 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:43:34
Aw, Derek.
Carl Manning
93 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:07:00
Trevor, Lukaku wanted to play for us because his other option was another year at West Brom. There are still a few clubs we get chosen over!
Mike Connolly
94 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:29:02
Carl,

I heard Kevin Mirallas locked him in the changing room when playing for Belgium and told him he is not getting out until he changes his mind from West Brom to Everton.

Geoff Williams
95 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:35:58
Any interest in this player is farcical at the amounts quoted; however, he would be an improvement on Iwobi. Everton need to be far more discerning when it comes to the selection of possible future players.
Anthony Murphy
96 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:44:29
Digressing here, but see Ivanovic is being linked... a mate for Carlo to go crown green bowling with?
Brent Stephens
97 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:46:57
Yes, Anthony, he's well into his 30s isn't he?
Allan Board
98 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:52:34
Overrated. Although, we could offer around 10 of our rubbish lot as a straight swap! Wage bill halved, shit players gone, and we can watch this bloke fall over a lot and not worry too much because he will have done us a massive favour!!!

£100 million? Football is officially on planet Zorg!

Mike Gaynes
99 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:02:23
Brent, he's 36.
Brent Stephens
100 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:07:17
Cheers, Mike.
Michael Boardman
101 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:23:56
Carl #96.

Lukaku wanted to go back to West Brom, but Chelsea wanted him at Everton for his development. He went back, missed a penalty in a shoot out and Mourinho wanted rid, so we signed him.

Chris Williams
102 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:43:28
Red echo now saying They understand Ivanovic not a target.
Bill Gienapp
103 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:45:38
If people are tired of overpriced mercenaries only half-heartedly committed to the cause, I'm pretty sure Zaha isn't the answer. If we had a really good squad and he was the final piece, that would be one thing... but if we're adrift in mid-table again, it's not hard to see him checking out.
Robert Tressell
104 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:07:28
When does the window open? Is it August 1st. Should clarify a few things. And when does the new season start? Completely lost track... What a weird year.
Colin Glassar
105 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:08:44
I only had to read Gavin’s post #1. Nothing really to add to that. We’ve been had too many times.
Drew O'Neall
106 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:45:26
There are few game changers in the Premier League, he is one.

Stop shopping in the bargain bins and get the players we need. You know the old adage: buy cheap, buy twice. We've bought twice and thrice... Iwobi, Bernard, Walcott... insert the other inferior players we have wasted equivalent millions on in the time we could have bought a Zaha for big money.

Christy Ring
107 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:09:10
Zaha would be a huge addition on the left, but with the likes of Bernard, Sigurdsson and Delph draining our resources, and Iwobi won't be leaving any time soon, because of their big contracts, Ancelotti's hands are tied, but a couple of midfielders is a must.
James Stewart
108 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:35:01
Should have signed him over Iwobi before. Hopefully they will accept a 5-player swap deal!
Richard Mason
109 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:41:06
Robert, the window is open now up until October. League starts back in September.
Terry White
110 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:58:43
I'm sure it would make Christy really happy if we were to bring James McCarthy back as part of any deal with Crystal Palace so he can sit on our bench instead of theirs.
John Raftery
111 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:00:32
Wrong age, no resale value and nowhere near as good as Richarlison.
Will Mabon
112 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:45:58
He also has a tendency to erm, score with manager's daughters, hastening departures from big clubs... I heard.
John Pierce
113 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:52:50
Zaha the talisman scored 4 last season, assisted 5.
Will Mabon
114 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:09:40
Jeez, I'd only heard about the one, John.
Robert Tressell
115 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:17:27
Thanks Richard. Going to be a very weird unsettled season then. Hopefully we'll move fairly early so any new additions get time to settle in.
John Pierce
116 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:48:00
Will. 😲😲😲
Christy Ring
117 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:51:41
Terry @120,

Thanks for the dig, re Macca, but he didn't sit on their bench, he started most games, unlike his replacement Delph, who didn't even make the bench!!

Jerome Shields
118 Posted 28/07/2020 at 23:03:55
Please, No!!!!!!!

A second rater. If Everton are interested, this shows Kenwright is involved in transfers.

On second thoughts, we have worse. . . swap for two of them.

Dick Fearon
119 Posted 29/07/2020 at 00:27:34
With Zaha for opponents to kick the shit out of, it would make it harder for them to concentrate their assaults on Ritchie.
James Newcombe
120 Posted 29/07/2020 at 07:32:40
There are far more hungry, younger players out there who could be signed for a lot less money than Zaha.

If he really wanted a move, he shouldn’t have signed his last contract. He’s on £130k a week, surely even we wouldn’t be paying him north of that!

Paul Setter
121 Posted 29/07/2020 at 07:33:49
Iwobi with pace, that's all he is. After the prancing LadyBoy over the park he is the most overrated player in the Premier League. Scored 4 goals last season that's 1 more than Walcott why on earth would we think going for this pile of muck makes Everton any better...

I hope club goes for Sarr from Watford – now there is an exciting quick young player with more potential than a hugely overpriced underwhelming one-trick pony.

Andrew Clare
122 Posted 29/07/2020 at 08:03:39
We need to stop signing unmotivated overrated and over-the-hill players. We should be scouring Europe and South America for exciting upcoming talent. Get them playing together week in week out until they gel.

Every year we are just making the same mistakes over and over again with our poor transfer policy.

Justin Doone
123 Posted 29/07/2020 at 09:30:25
Good player but there are better, hungrier, more motivated team players available that we need at a more reasonable price.

For a start, take a look at the 3 relegated teams. Relegation doesn't mean rubbish players, it's a team game and several individuals would improve our first team without a doubt.

Tony Everan
124 Posted 29/07/2020 at 10:19:15
I want us to stop signing cockerpoos.

We need footballers who have an attitude and can fight for the points at this stage in our ‘evolution’ That doesn't mean those players have to be yard dogs, just quality players with some wire in their blood. Højbjerg and Allan have it and I'm optimistic Carlo is going on that direction.

Zaha is a talent but I don't regard him as a team player or someone who will be reliable in adversity. There is a mental weakness there, and couple that with him wanting an Arsenal move last summer when we were interested makes me think this would be a mistake.

If we've really hell-bent on getting him, it only makes sense as a player or multiple-player swap deal. If Zaha comes in, Iwobi becomes redundant, so it would be an obvious one that he goes in the other direction.

Tony Abrahams
125 Posted 29/07/2020 at 10:58:06
35 appearances James McCarthy has made for Palace, which really surprised me. What didn't surprise me was Bill Kenwright's choice of words over Leighton Baines.

"We knew it was coming, but didn't expect it this soon," or words to that effect, for a player that's been used 14 times in the last two seasons.

Brian Murray
126 Posted 29/07/2020 at 11:10:29
Brands can't or won't move early in the market because any half-decent player and his agent sees the Everton bid and says "Wow, yes let's have some of that... but hold fire until the last minute in case a Champions League comes in and matches it."

That's not a defence of Brands because he should be able to counteract that scenario by finding gems like he did in Holland, unless the teary one is clouding the issues once again.

I can see Carlo walking when he realises how this club operates.

Roger Helm
127 Posted 29/07/2020 at 11:31:50
I hope this is just a rumour. If he failed at Man Utd, why would he do any better with us? We couldn't afford him anyway.

Any fool can splurge tens of millions on a player like him. I thought the point of a DoF was to source good value deals, like Moyes used to do; good, hungry players from other leagues who look like they would do well in the Premier League.

Branthwaite may be one of them, but we need more, especially midfielders and wing-backs.

Derek Knox
128 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:19:08
Tony @124, I think you meant Cockupoos, the Cockerpoo possesses the best of both breeds and I believe is now recognised by the Kennel Club as an individual, although a hybrid of two species. :-)
Tony Everan
129 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:47:14
Sorry, Derek, I didn't mean to be dismissive of those lovely pooches.

I was just trying to make the point that we need some more controlled aggression and toughness in midfield and not soft, cuddly, pushover players.

Eric Myles
130 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:55:49
Derek #127, it was only the other day that I heard of a Labradoodle and couldn't help asking if the male poodle needed to use a ladder???
Barry Rathbone
131 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:00:20
He's angling for Arsenal or Spurs — never in a million years will he come north after his Man Utd disaster.
Michael O'Malley
132 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:03:55
I hope this is tabloid bullshit. I don't want this diving, cheating waste of space anywhere near our club. How Palace think he is worth more than the likes of Timo Werner, who has shone in the Champions League, is laughable.
Nick Bower
133 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:04:41
The news about Ivanovic is encouraging – I only want Everton to be linked with tenacious warrior types in future.
Geoff Trenner
134 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:13:16
Eric @129, no, it used its dick.
Michael Kenrick
135 Posted 29/07/2020 at 14:39:49
What about this lad Tony Weston?

Not on your radar, Steve, Roger, Sam et al??? Maybe he doesn't show yet on Football Manager?

Only 16.
Plays for Blackpool
Born in Liverpool
Set to join Glasgow Rangers
£250k fee
Cannot sign professional until 17...
... Except in Scotland: where he can sign pro.

What's he doing in Blackpool? Must have tried out with our Academy, surely?

At least it saves us from Darren's immortal "Weston having a Weston" — which of course he would not say, the lad being so young.

Jamie Crowley
136 Posted 29/07/2020 at 14:46:19
If we sign Zaha for £40 million before we sign a centre-midfielder?

We're being run by morons and there literally is no hope.

Tom Bowers
137 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:15:03
When he is in the mood, Zaha is very dangerous but he is inconsistent and at 27 would be a risk at the price Crystal Palace would set.

Better to look elsewhere as I am sure there are younger hungrier players at half the cost.

Nicholas Ryan
138 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:32:06
Bad news for ToffeeWebers: Zaha's price. Good news for ToffeeWebers - John Daley is back!
Stephen Brown
139 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:48:09
I'm sure this has been said but I'd only be interested in Zaha as a straight swop for Iwobi and Bolasie! Or Tosun if he's fit!

He's better than those two but it should involve no or limited additional money!

Terry White
140 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:01:42
You are welcome, Christy. For you and Tony (#125), James made 33 league appearances for Palace this year, 0 goals. Of these, 17 were as substitute which belies your statement that he "started most games".

I especially like the Wikipedia item which references his first appearance for Palace as a substitute in the 70th minute and he received a (predictable) yellow card 4 minutes later for retaliation. That's James Mc for you.

Mike Gaynes
141 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:29:48
Terry #139, to be fair Macca did play well when he played. Even with his limited playing time he was in the top 15 in tackles in the Premier League, and wound up leading the league in tackle rate with one every 22.3 minutes. (The guy he overtook in that statistic was Djibril Sidibé, who had one every 24.9 minutes.)

But yes, Macca remains a yellow card machine. He did also lead the Premier League in yellow card rate with one every 205 minutes (including the one he got against us at the 10-minute mark). Nobody else was even close.

Tom Bowers
142 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:45:20
I like Deulofeu and Barkley but after His bad injury Deulofeu faded; yes, he had a resurgence with Watford this season and, if he hadn't gotten injured again, might have helped them stay up, but it's academic now.

Barkley faded somewhat at Everton and failed to make an impression in his early Chelski days but has come on since without being a starter. However, what we have in midfield now is no better. Very few players have ever impressed when coming back to Everton a second time.

We need some tenacious wide midfielders, not feeble players like Walcott, Bernard and Iwobi, who haven't earned their wages this season.

Christy Ring
143 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:26:12
Terry @139 He started on the bench for first 10 games, probably because of lack of match fitness, but was a regular after that.

I don't know where you're going regarding indiscipline with the yellow cards, because in 91 appearances for Everton, he had 16 yellow, no red, for Palace 35 games 9 yellow??

As for his replacement Delph, he played 13 games, wow, 5 yellow, 1 red, I rest my case.

Paul Birmingham
144 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:37:56
Aside to the Zaha, rumours, I hope the RS Echo fuelling rumours of Lingaard, are miles off, and are just BS.

The club needs a proper transfer plan and surely, lessons have been learnt from recent summer transfer windows.

Jay Harris
145 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:54:58
Paul, according to sources, as they say, they have been planning Zilch.

Apparently Carlo is due to meet with them next week to discuss plans.

If this is true, it's no wonder we're always the bridesmaid and picking up players other clubs don't want.

Tony Everan
146 Posted 29/07/2020 at 20:54:05
Paul 143,

If we sign Lingard, then that's the end of the road. I think I would lose all hope for the club and we should change the club badge to a white flag. I want to say it won't happen but, with our recent recruitment policy, you just can't totally rule it out.

Simon Smith
147 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:24:43
Offer Iwobi and Tosun plus cash. Palace were interested in Tosun before, they probably wouldn't want Iwobi, but then again we bought him, so there has to be other clubs that see his positives.

I would be very happy to see 2 players on the fringe go and be replaced by Zaha.

Paul Birmingham
148 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:27:58
Jay @144 and Tony @145: agreed and if either of these transfers happened, in my case, I'd have to say that I'd be close to losing my inner soul for all matters Everton.

As we've said so many times on TW, the definition of madness, and at Everton, if they don't learn from their recent past mistakes, then, it's mediocrity we face.

Hope eternal.

Paul Hewitt
149 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:31:39
Højbjerg, Zaha, Allan.

What a shower of shite.

RIP Everton.

Phil Lewis
150 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:59:38
The media have created the price tag and the myth which is Zaha. Frankly he is useless. Our priorities lie in other positions. Name me a top 6 club who would sign him. Yet isn't the top 6 supposed to be our goal?

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we signed him. He could then join the long line of expensive imposters, who nobody else wants, to impose himself on long-suffering devout Evertonians and become another mercenary who bleeds the club dry.

Kase Chow
151 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:04:31
I'd be happy with anyone that Carlo wants.

He knows far more than any of us.

Kieran Kinsella
152 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:05:39
The Echo is no better than HITC. Sam Carroll and that other kid churn “If I were a billionaire and Everton manager I’d buy Messi and Ronaldo” type articles. David Prentice is the only writer with a brain and he seems to have shoved off into some back office and is well out of the loop.
Andy Crooks
153 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:45:08
Hope the punters on the site filled their boots with Moaather today. I backed Everton at a big bet to beat Bournemouth. Should have known better. Anyway, got it back today.
Alan J Thompson
154 Posted 30/07/2020 at 05:54:43
"Would any of the Top 6 sign him?" — causes me a little smile. Given that they have a squad of at least 25 that means they have 150 players between them to fill 66 positions which could be interpreted as having more players that won't be playing for a Top 6 side than will be on any given weekend. Would he be first on the team sheet? No, that's usually the keeper.

Yeah, I know, pedantic, but amusing.

Joe McMahon
155 Posted 30/07/2020 at 11:54:08
Wowser, didn't see this coming re Nathan Ake: Man City £40m bid for defender accepted by Bournemouth.

I don't want Stones back.

Marc Hints
156 Posted 30/07/2020 at 11:56:34
Totally agree, Joe, but knowing Everton and Bill Kenwright, they will use the sentimental card and bring John Stones home.
Joe McMahon
157 Posted 30/07/2020 at 12:03:40
FFS Marc please don't! I'm glad Moshiri didn't bid for Ake, as Bournemouth would have raked in £70 million.
Tony Everan
158 Posted 30/07/2020 at 13:18:52
Joe 165 , I immediately thought the same thing. I don’t want Stones back. Man City will now want to offload him and we will be in the firing line.

It’s a good move for Kieran Dowell, shame we couldn’t have negotiated Aarons or Buendia coming this way + £ as part of the deal. Sadly, it possibly means those two are off elsewhere.

Bill Gall
159 Posted 30/07/2020 at 13:31:38
I am seriously worried in this transfer market on Evertons chances of bringing in some quality players. We are all fully aware of the positions that need strengthening, but it seems that every player mentioned that Everton are interested in, some of the top clubs are also interested in.

The top clubs are in a prime position in negotiating for players compared to Everton and we may be forced to go back into the bargain basements again.

Jay Harris
160 Posted 30/07/2020 at 14:59:01
Let's be honest, we have all looked at Kieran for a number of years now and there is no doubt he is technically gifted but he is inconsistent even over 90 minutes he will drift in and out of games and will never extend himself.

Posters on here make me laugh. One minute we are saying we need more Dogs of War and mental toughness and the next minute we are lamenting a guy that could have made it to the top but has a lazy attitude.

John Raftery
161 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:00:39
Jay (180) The second half of your first sentence could be applied to Sigurdsson, Gomes and Bernard all of whom are costing us millions.
Colin Glassar
162 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:14:09
There’s a rumour going round that Iwobi will be part of a player plus cash deal for Zaha. I don’t think ten bob will make much of a dent In the multimillion pound deal but every little bit helps.
Robert Tressell
163 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:29:50
If we'd have got Zouma, Zaha and a fit Gbamin last summer, where would we be now?

Strongly expect Iwobi will be a first team regular (ish) next season. And would be amazed if we buy Zaha.

Deals are starting to get done now though so hopefully soon.

Geoff Williams
164 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:30:01
Why?
Colin Glassar
165 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:31:18
Why Geoff, why?
Nicholas Ryan
166 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:38:40
'Everton remain interested in Zaha, Zaha remains uninterested in Everton'.
David Currie
167 Posted 30/07/2020 at 19:56:37
McNeill from Burnley would be a better signing than Zaha, as would Sarr from Watford. Both these players are on the up and younger and hungry.
Colin Glassar
168 Posted 30/07/2020 at 20:02:35
Good shout, David. I like Zaha but I'm not sure what he is exactly. A winger, forward or what? The two guys you mentioned would be great buys imo.
Andy Crooks
169 Posted 30/07/2020 at 22:02:45
As John Daley said, signing Wilfred Zaha would give us a new best player. Why, in God's name are we as ordinary punters fretting about what we spend? He is brilliant, look at the fucking money we have thrown away on utter, utter, shite.

Who would you rather watch? Zaha or fucking Sigurdsson.

Dan Nulty
170 Posted 30/07/2020 at 22:06:42
Rumour I have heard is Zaha is off to Arsenal on loan with an option to buy.
Kenn Crawford
171 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:07:51
In my opinion, he is a slight upgrade on Bernard but that wouldn't be hard. Very over-rated and a bit temperamental; goes missing too often. So it's a No from me.
Nick Page
172 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:15:12
100% guaranteed not an Everton player and 100% not what we need to be looking at given the parlous state of this squad. A bit of a luxury who would do well with a few good players around him, I'm sure but temperament still needs testing given he was arguably too young at Man Utd.

The only positive I see is that he's actually a winger unlike Iwobi who's a 10, and Bernard, who's also a 10. We buy a lot of 10s at Everton!

Kenn Crawford
173 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:33:58
Nick #199, I presume you mean the position of No 10 – not that they are rated a 10?

Sorry, Nick (tongue-in-cheek). 👍👍

Nick Page
174 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:45:50
There's a 1 in their rating, Kenn, but it's not followed by a zero.

Tbf, I think Bernard is a good little player but he's been Everton'd (I.e turned into a lazy bastard who doesn't care cos he's on a kings ransom every week and knows he can retire off it).

Iwobi, on the other hand, is right up there for the worst piece of business we've ever done award, which is saying something even for Everton. Absolutely desperate.

Are there any clubs left in the league that haven't had us off?

Stephen Vincent
175 Posted 31/07/2020 at 09:31:14
All these Number 10s seem to turn into number 2s💩 !!!
David Hallwood
176 Posted 31/07/2020 at 10:30:04
I'd like to see our transfer policy concentrate on young hungry up-and-coming players; players like Weston McKennie, midfielder who plays Schalke, and Sergino Dest a right-back who plays for Ajax. Both Americans, and they've got the athleticism to compete in this league.

No more "nearly made it with a big team" cast-offs please.

James Stewart
177 Posted 04/08/2020 at 20:47:54
Sickening that we spent more on Iwobi than what Palace now want for Zaha (£30M).

Disgusting business by Brands.

Kim Vivian
178 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:35:20
At £30 -£40m we should be biting Palace's hand off. Would be nice if we could do something, sometime rather than waiting for the last 48 hours to hoover up the scraps.
Sam Hoare
179 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:46:59
Zaha is a very good player. But he is almost 28. Spending £30+m on him would be making the same mistake we’ve already made before on the likes of Sigurdsson, Bolasie, Schneiderlin etc.

Instead we should spend the same money (and less wages) on Ismailia Sarr who is almost as good and 6 years younger. Get 3-4 good years out of Sarr and then sell for double the money. And repeat.

Younger, hungrier (but still proven) players who have resale value that means we can keep re-investing in the team.

Let’s not keep making the same mistakes.

Brian Murray
180 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:47:04
All names and if buts and maybes, Anyone half decent here or Europe that the top six know about is a non starter. That's why I thought we employed Brands. To find them. This fella seems so limited at his job nearly as bad as Walsh. Only Everton.
Brian Williams
181 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:07:56
Firstly: The figure of £30M that Palace allegedly want for Zaha has been plucked out of the air by lazy journo's. But once again let's take it as Gospel.

Who was it that said "Madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"? Paraphrased there but the principle is the same.

I agree with Sam, avoid Saha. To me he's a luxury player who likes to be the star attraction. On his day he's an extremely talented and effective player.

Thing is his day doesn't come round often enough and he'd be a luxury we can't afford IMO.

James. If you're taking the £30M for Zaha as "the figure", then we didn't pay more than that for Iwobi. The club paid between £27M and £28M rising to £34M if certain criteria were met.

Those criteria are very unlikely to be met.

James Stewart
182 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:34:08
@180

Not taking anything as gospel. It's been widely circulating that Zaha will move on this summer and the fee will be around £30M given the current climate, numerous sources have reported this, not just the rags.

Iwobi add-ons could easily be met, I remember the Echo saying at the time of the deal, which would take it north of £30M. Whatever your stance on Zaha, surely you are not advocating this as good business?

James Stewart
183 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:42:40
For the record, I'm not saying I think we should sign Zaha; I don't, for the exact same reasons Sam @179 states.

It is further evidence though, of Brand's extremely poor record, if Zaha goes for less or similar money than we got Iwobi for.

Simon Dalzell
184 Posted 07/08/2020 at 23:17:54
I'd snap him up at £30M. Comparing him to Bolasie is a bit daft.
Jay Harris
185 Posted 07/08/2020 at 23:59:57
I've watched a lot of Crystal Palace games over the last 2 seasons and I can honestly say Zaha has been the standout player on the pitch in most of those games.

The likes of Zaha, Maddison, Pulisic, Mahrez, Mane etc are rare commodities and, if he is available for £30M, I would certainly take him.

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