According to The Mirror, the Blues are "preparing a bid" for the 27-year-old whom they reportedly tried to sign a year ago. Palace held firm on an astronomical valuation of the winger and are said to be looking for £100m this time around.
Zaha has consistently been linked with Arsenal but Mikel Arteta is said to be eyeing a free-transfer swoop for Chelsea's Willian instead. If so, that would limit the number of suitors for Zaha who could potentially offer him a step up from Selhurst Park while also being interested in signing him.
Original Source: The Mirror
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1 Posted 28/07/2020 at 00:21:29
2 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:03:26
Last time we had our pants pulled down by a smaller club for a player who “returned home” after failing at a top-six club, we ended up with Sigurdsson.
And as for Arsenal's interest... Zaha or Willian? They're hardly comparable players are they?
3 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:07:32
Btw, I believe there's an error in this article. I read the Mirror and it read to me that they wanted £100M last season. Thus pricing him out of a move. Palace want to cash in now.
4 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:13:24
5 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:31:58
6 Posted 28/07/2020 at 01:42:13
"How much does he want?"
"Tell him he's fuckin dreaming."
I wouldn't take him for what we paid for Walcott or Bolasie, have we learned nothing? – seems not.
Do we have a renowned Director of Football, or some kid playing Football Manager on a Play Station? No wonder Martin Mason spewed it... hopefully it's just paper talk, but this is Everton.
7 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:32:58
8 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:35:25
9 Posted 28/07/2020 at 02:47:44
And then he scored four goals -- only 1 in their last 21 games when they were fighting to stay up. Way to come through under pressure, dude.
And now they want ONE HUNDRED MILLION?? Insane. Plus he gets £130,000/week. Insane-er.
Offer 'em the same £40M we offered last year, and we're guaranteed to be high bidder. And that's only if Carlo wants the guy as much as Silva did.
Or go get Lozano or a half-dozen other possible candidates for less.
10 Posted 28/07/2020 at 03:30:26
11 Posted 28/07/2020 at 04:00:43
12 Posted 28/07/2020 at 04:14:03
13 Posted 28/07/2020 at 05:49:44
14 Posted 28/07/2020 at 06:26:56
We need players who will battle and get involved. Someone who makes things happen and will encourage other players by taking the game to other teams.
15 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:10:01
16 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:14:37
17 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:33:19
18 Posted 28/07/2020 at 07:48:33
19 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:00:48
20 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:16:41
I like many other life-long Evertonians are beginning to lose interest in Everton they are a hopeless case, a badly run club from top to bottom and the money they have wasted is unforgivable.
21 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:20:01
Tosun, Bolaise, Iwobi, even Sigurdsson exchanged for Zaha in some sort of combination there is a deal to be done. But as Robert says there may be better options for us like Sarr, if Watford are open to some player + negotiations.
Any other scenario it is total nonsense. Maybe we are happy for this to be circulated as we can concentrate on sorting out our central midfield signings with a bit less scrutiny.
22 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:26:45
Yeah we 100% need power and pace but I'd look elsewhere. There are bargains about and I'd rather see us bring in someone who will be a star like Eberechi Eze from QPR at £20 million rather than waste at least double that on Zaha who is on his way out. Have we learnt nothing from the Walcott, Iwobi and countless other deals.
23 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:32:25
24 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:36:04
25 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:39:14
If they took Tosun, Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Delph, Sandro, and Besic in some combination with no cash adjustment, the deal would be in our favour and is worth looking at.
26 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:45:00
If we add Walcott, it's a "buy one, get four free" deal that clears over £20 million off our wage bill a year!
Though we might want to hold this back for someone better than Zaha now I think about it.
27 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:46:58
Zaha's moment has gone and I don't see him leaving Palace any time soon.
28 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:47:13
29 Posted 28/07/2020 at 08:52:25
No one on TW knows if we're really interested or not.
30 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:01:58
It's always too late. The last time there was any vision was bringing in Barry, Lukaku and Deulofeu. (Richarlison and Digne accepted).
31 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:05:45
We need players who are on the up, not on the way down. We need some of their best years, not paying during their decline.
32 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:06:00
33 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:10:41
...sounds perfect for us.
34 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:14:21
Me too. Let them have Tosun, Bolasie, Iwobi and Sigurdsson.
In fact, I'm not even that bothered about getting Zaha in return...
35 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:18:28
36 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:43:43
It's all very well looking at players with a ‘proven goal record over many years' – but they don't want to play for us!! Name one that is available that would sign for us.
We all want Champions League players but we're not a Champions League club. The likes of Tosun, Sigurdsson, Bernard and Iwobi are as much a reflection of where the club is at the moment as the transfer policy. Put simply: we have to roll the dice and often end up with average players that no-one else wants because they're the only players we can attract. Not qualifying for Europe will maintain that.
It's the FFP status quo that ensures the elite stay elite. Add the continuation of the 5 subs rule next season and I doubt any team not currently in the top 7 will be able to break the top 7. And so it continues.
37 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:51:31
Lukaku wanted to play for us. It's all about recruitment, that's the job of the club's management and hierarchy. Of course there are players who would be willing to play for us – that's nonsense.
38 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:56:19
You'd be much better off going for Saint-Maximin who is younger, completes more dribbles and loses the ball less often. Perhaps that is who we should have bought instead of Iwobi. Or Eze from the Championship.
39 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:59:01
Strong, fast, powerful – imagine Everton playing on the break with Zaha and Richarlidson taring away.
He's got brilliant control, can easily beat a man, and has proven he can score goals. At Palace, he is their only real threat, so teams double-mark him but, with our strike force, they would be unable to do this.
Zaha, Richarlison, and Calvert-Lewin gives you a very tall, powerful, fast front three. For me, he's much less of a gamble than signing Everton or Lorenzo.
Like many have said, I also think we have a number of players who Palace would be interested in, so if we swapped Iwobi + £20M, I still think that would be good for both parties.
40 Posted 28/07/2020 at 09:59:28
41 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:01:57
Lukaku was a teenager with one season of experience on loan at a club that were relegated. He's just a gamble that paid off.
42 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:04:12
If we signed Zaha, he would move reluctantly because none of the so-called big boys wanted him – we would pay over the odds and his wages would be astronomical. Best to dig out that rough diamond.
43 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:05:50
I'd take him at Everton in a heartbeat if we could swap Iwobi and Tosun for him.
I suspect that Palace (and Zaha himself) will be holding out for a big payday which I think could be better invested on younger wingers with their best years ahead of them. But I'd definitely have him if the price was right!
44 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:07:52
We need to learn lessons of the past and invest in young, hungry players along with more affordable senior players like Allan.
45 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:14:43
This would be as bad as Bolasie at £30m.
I don't see many clubs in the queue for him.
46 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:21:13
If we were to spend £40 million on anyone, we should go for Sarr from Watford. Gonna be a top-level player.
47 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:21:46
We already bought a player in Richarleson, who on his day is up there with the very best, so it can be done. Silva can take the credit for that one.
Every signing is a gamble and we the supporters have no say in who we buy, recruitment management at the club is rotten to the core. The whole situation needs sorting out if we are ever to move forward.
I don't trust Brands; I think he's bought garbage, maybe we should start by removing him.
48 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:25:21
I also await the usual arrival of Man Utd rejects and Man City cripples for the new season with less than overwhelming enthusiasm.
ps: If they're willing to take Delph in part-exchange, I'll pay for the ambulance to take him there.
49 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:31:52
That puts Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison alongside Ronaldo.
50 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:47:12
Possibly in the past is a fear of taking on these types of players and also the media scrutiny we would suffer. But we've now got a big manager who acts like we're a big club again.
We can take this on and push for the Champions League with 2/3 very good signings. Carlo can handle it and make the players deal with the pressure. None of our previous managers in the last 20 years could ever handle 4 or 5 star players and the media trying to pick holes in everything.
It'll take us a few weeks to get used to being a big club again next season, but that's where we are from September when Carlo gets us off and running with his squad evolution.
The change is like when we changed from Primary school to Secondary school, we're going to have to get used to it. Carlo is our Secondary school phase all of a sudden. Again, trust Carlo, we are going right to the top next season!
2nd thing I'm going to throw in that will mean things have changed, is that if we keep Pickford, he will be a brilliant keeper next season if we are pushing top four as he looks like he's coasting and in two minds about the team. Top players want challenges, and when he performs he is a really top performer.
If he can see the club going for Champions League places and all that glory and cameras, I think he will be the keeper we need to handle the big club occasions when we take on the best in Europe away at grounds where fans spend more time harassing keepers rather than watching the game.
He needs pressure to perform, he's a different type of player to the average Premier League player whose just happy to be there. In fact the opposite of Bernard who celebrates every pass over 20 yards or shot on goal as an achievement.
But yes, I think Pickford is the right keeper and he won't be as bored next season when the Champions League challenge is put in front of him to play his part, and we'll see him stretch to his full potential in terms of concentration and dedication.
51 Posted 28/07/2020 at 10:47:17
52 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:11:55
53 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:23:10
54 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:30:04
Yes, I'd definitely be looking at Sarr. He had a pretty good debut season in the Premier League and could do even better in a team with more talent. He's super fast and gets enough goals and assists to suggest he could be a serious counter-attacking weapon.
He probably won't be good enough to break into the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd etc so, if he wants to stay in the Premier League and get good wages, we could be one his best bets. Trouble is... how much Watford would want for their one profitable asset – and how much they hate us.
55 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:48:08
I would walk from Zaha, that ship has sailed, unless by some miracle they accepted some players, eg, Iwobi, Tosun, Bolasie... Sigurdsson (this might be the only way we can shift some of these boys in a swap deal).
56 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:48:47
Examine the Premier League and how many are there that are effective.
We should be spending that type of money on midfield and pacy full-backs.
Far better having pacy attacking full-backs and three "snappers" in the midfield to stop the opposition's possession.
I remember Sir Alf saying to Alan Ball and Nobby Stiles, "You win the ball in midfield and give it the players who can hurt the opposition."
For me this is still true and a 4-3-3 is the way to go.
57 Posted 28/07/2020 at 11:49:44
Same age, has matured since his time with us, and would probably cost half the price. He can also play on both flanks, though not left-footed.
The lad still has a soft spot for the club.
58 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:11:38
How many players in our squad do you think an opposing manager or players cast a wary eye over and think "We're going to have to deal with him today"? Richarlison... maybe?
We have wide men with all the creative ability of a post ‘flesh wound' Black Knight from Monty Python with a big tub of Play Doh plonked in front of the twat's torso, a midfield totally bereft of pace, physicality and invention, very few prepared to get on the ball and drive at a defence, a chronic lack of match winners and absolutely nobody who has flabby middle-aged male arses twerking like Miley Cyrus on seats in the main stand in anticipation of something happening whenever he receives the ball.
Zaha would instantly be our best player... by some distance... and I'd rather spend even £80M for someone who can create opportunities from nothing and is genuinely good to watch than 3 more middling, one-paced, sideways-passing, responsibility-shirking, plodders to pad out a squad already fit to burst with such shitehawks.
The talk of him ‘failing' at Man Utd is harsh considering the lack of actual opportunities he was given to show he could make it there (a grand total of 4 games), being loaned straight back to Palace and then sent out again to Cardiff. Especially from Evertonians, when you take into account which manager was handed the responsibility of bringing him through at Old Trafford and his reticence in relying on younger players (along with his mistrust of ‘flair' if sweaty sedulousness could be sought instead) when he was in charge here.
Comparisons between his big move not working out and Sigurdsson flopping at Spurs are easy to make, simply because he currently stinks the place out for us week after week after arriving for an eye-watering fee, but the Icelandic eunuch always had a limited skill set even back then, with his much vaunted ‘career stats' being propped up almost entirely by set-piece productivity... but a past ‘failing' doesn't fence off future success.
Arteta failed to make it at Barcelona and didn't produce anything special at PSG, Rangers or Sociedad, but it was obvious he always had great natural ability and he was a class above anything Everton had when he turned up at Goodison a more mature player and was able to inject much needed flair into a hard working but moribund side.
Zaha has that natural ability in spades and has also shown at Palace he can accept the mantle of being the ‘main man' and carrying the side at times.
He's not just another ‘wide player who offers next to nothing for the team'. At Palace, almost everything goes through Zaha. He relieves pressure on the defence by driving forward, he draws 2 or 3 players to him every time he gets on the ball, instantly freeing up space for others because defenders know you can't leave a teammate one-v-one with him. Ask James Milner:
“I would honestly say the one who has troubled me most on a one-to-one basis is Wilfried Zaha. I've been sent off twice for Liverpool and they've both been for fouls against him. He's such a difficult opponent, not just because he's got great ability but because he's so unpredictable. With most players, if you're up against them, one to one, you've got a good idea what they're going to do. Zaha is a nightmare to play against.”
He can hold the ball up or release it quick, he gets involved in link-up play, can spot a through ball, puts in crosses, is decent in the air, and can create chances on his own.
He would be a huge signing for Ancelotti.
59 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:12:09
The only problem I see is that this was a player Moshiri wanted so Ancelotti might not have a say. You'd hope Brands has told him to stop meddling!
60 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:13:53
I wonder if there's any players we could give them that might appeal and soften their stance. Kenny perhaps or Bolasie. Maybe Dowell.
We've got so many players to get rid of that I think swaps might suit us well this summer. For example, we could try Kenny + £10M for Max Aarons.
61 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:19:35
Bring back Deulofeu and Barkley. With Allan, that's a cracking midfield:
Gordon Barkley Allan Deloufeu
Digne Holgate Keane ???
62 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:36:03
I saw a clip a while back of Sadio Mane in a tunnel telling the Watford boys they have a real player on their hands but he needs looking after cos he's shy. Seems to be coming out of his shell a bit more.
With Zaha, I think he's tried the north-west before, it didn't work out, he's at home in London and wants Arsenal or Spurs. That's a bit different to the Højbjerg situation where he might prefer Spurs but has no aversion to Everton. I get the impression that Zaha actually has an aversion to joining Everton. I could see him ending up at West Ham.
Swaps are an interesting concept. I guess we should ask how we'd feel getting Lindelof, Smalling or Luke Shaw if, say, Digne went to Man Utd. Some pros and cons certainly.
63 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:54:46
64 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:56:42
He'll be another one Instagraming photos of his cars and clothes, dabbing, and whatever other shite is apparently cool these days. Oh, and he might occasionally get around to playing a bit of football if he feels like it... no guarantees on that though because Instagram is busy work.
65 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:57:24
Thomas Lemar at Atletico is having a bad time. Two years ago, he was the next big thing wanted by most of the big clubs, made the French team at the World Cup, went to Spain and disappeared without trace. Got to be worth a thought, years younger than Zaha and a better player.
66 Posted 28/07/2020 at 12:58:49
67 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:04:20
That will finally finish Palace off.
68 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:09:32
69 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:13:45
70 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:18:11
Or in the Eredevisie, Luis Sinisterra looks an excellent winger who can play on the right (though he prefers the left).
71 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:21:25
Zaha, yes at £25M – no more. Swap for Tosun with some money – Palace get the money, of course!
72 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:29:20
Also, the way he screwed us over when he left, I don't think Ross is a very popular figure with most Evertonians.
73 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:31:34
74 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:40:04
The consensus among the Cardiff fans was that he didn't know how to play a game of football. I saw him a few times, usually as a sub as he couldn't hit the team. He had tricks and flicks and would probably win a football freestyle competition but, as a football player, he was useless. I wouldn't want him regardless of the price.
He has no end product so it's all a matter how much Everton waste? £80M, £50M £30M or even £10M. You've still wasted millions.
75 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:40:57
Of the ones mentioned as makeweights, I suppose Tosun and possibly Iwobi would be of interest to them; I would very much doubt they would have Bolasie back but, if they did, it would free up another on the gravy train wage bill.
Only time will tell... but again, if Carlo fancies them, then who are we to differ? I think he knows more than we do and is privy to what happens at Finch Farm etc.
76 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:42:45
77 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:43:33
Also, if we sign him, Brands needs to go.
78 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:46:36
Then, along comes some "fixer" to make a profitable deal for all concerned (apart from the buying club). Although the owner might legitimise himself by moving some "Monopoly" money that can't be spent where someone looks too hard.
79 Posted 28/07/2020 at 13:59:00
80 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:47:23
If he was a reasonable price... but he won't be.
81 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:47:48
If they wouldnt have signed Iwobi, they would have nearly broke even, so hopefully the PR machine is getting revved up, and Tosun, Bolasie and Iwobi, are all getting ready to leave.
82 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:51:26
Who would cost the most and not be available to play for 8 weeks after signing?
83 Posted 28/07/2020 at 14:52:51
Zaha can be a great player when he's up for it, but I don't think he's the right guy for us.
84 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:01:26
He doesn't set the fee Palace and the market do. If they ask too much they will have an unsettled player on their hands.
He is a player who would definitely improve our squad.
Whether we can do some swaps or spend a chunk of limited transfer funds is another matter which only Carlo and Brands can decide.
Personally I would lean more towards a solid in-your-face aggressive midfield player who can score goals as a priority. (Maybe a swap with Kenny and McKennie.)
85 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:39:38
86 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:49:13
I don't believe for one second Moshiri won't back Carlo. If not backed can see Carlo, say arrivederci now it's time to sink or swim!!
If it's sink, we will be bottom 5 next year. Hammers with Moyes will go all KITAP1, Leeds have ambition. So possibly EFC, Villa and maybe whoever wins the playoff. It's quite scary when you look at our team's performance since they played the last 9 games.
87 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:49:15
88 Posted 28/07/2020 at 15:53:46
But, if we did, I would have to take my hat off to Farhad and say I didn't think it was possible for a billionaire to lose it by blowing the lot on Everton whilst moving us down the table, but fair play – you're proving me wrong!
89 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:04:42
I wonder though, how often during games we would end up with only nine players on their feet.
Not sure his head is always right and the ship may have left port, as someone says above. But, if we could get him at a post-Covid price rather than something on the Iwobi-scale, he would, as Joe Royle might put it, "Put bums on seats."
I can't see it happening, unfortunately; Palace would want silly money.
90 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:22:00
A lot has been penned on this site about finding players with the right temperament, occasionally you do have room for a maverick.
Zaha notably has a poor attitude. He often sulks, has repeatedly wanted to leave Palace, and has failed at Man Utd. Is he that good for us to accommodate him? Would his attitude change playing with a better squad?
I think his value has peaked. I'm constantly surprised how poor his passing judgement is, he gets double sometimes tripled marked and insists on beating them rather than drawing in a releasing the ball to create overloads. That's who and not a player who will make us better. A big fish in a small pond.
I'm only interested in players who have a good temperament and want to get better. I've never seen this in his play.
So it's a Yes from me!!!
91 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:22:48
92 Posted 28/07/2020 at 16:43:34
93 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:07:00
94 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:29:02
I heard Kevin Mirallas locked him in the changing room when playing for Belgium and told him he is not getting out until he changes his mind from West Brom to Everton.
95 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:35:58
96 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:44:29
97 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:46:57
98 Posted 28/07/2020 at 17:52:34
£100 million? Football is officially on planet Zorg!
99 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:02:23
100 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:07:17
101 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:23:56
Lukaku wanted to go back to West Brom, but Chelsea wanted him at Everton for his development. He went back, missed a penalty in a shoot out and Mourinho wanted rid, so we signed him.
102 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:43:28
103 Posted 28/07/2020 at 18:45:38
104 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:07:28
105 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:08:44
106 Posted 28/07/2020 at 19:45:26
Stop shopping in the bargain bins and get the players we need. You know the old adage: buy cheap, buy twice. We've bought twice and thrice... Iwobi, Bernard, Walcott... insert the other inferior players we have wasted equivalent millions on in the time we could have bought a Zaha for big money.
107 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:09:10
108 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:35:01
109 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:41:06
110 Posted 28/07/2020 at 20:58:43
111 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:00:32
112 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:45:58
113 Posted 28/07/2020 at 21:52:50
114 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:09:40
115 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:17:27
116 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:48:00
117 Posted 28/07/2020 at 22:51:41
Thanks for the dig, re Macca, but he didn't sit on their bench, he started most games, unlike his replacement Delph, who didn't even make the bench!!
118 Posted 28/07/2020 at 23:03:55
A second rater. If Everton are interested, this shows Kenwright is involved in transfers.
On second thoughts, we have worse. . . swap for two of them.
119 Posted 29/07/2020 at 00:27:34
120 Posted 29/07/2020 at 07:32:40
If he really wanted a move, he shouldnt have signed his last contract. Hes on £130k a week, surely even we wouldnt be paying him north of that!
121 Posted 29/07/2020 at 07:33:49
I hope club goes for Sarr from Watford – now there is an exciting quick young player with more potential than a hugely overpriced underwhelming one-trick pony.
122 Posted 29/07/2020 at 08:03:39
Every year we are just making the same mistakes over and over again with our poor transfer policy.
123 Posted 29/07/2020 at 09:30:25
For a start, take a look at the 3 relegated teams. Relegation doesn't mean rubbish players, it's a team game and several individuals would improve our first team without a doubt.
124 Posted 29/07/2020 at 10:19:15
We need footballers who have an attitude and can fight for the points at this stage in our ‘evolution That doesn't mean those players have to be yard dogs, just quality players with some wire in their blood. Højbjerg and Allan have it and I'm optimistic Carlo is going on that direction.
Zaha is a talent but I don't regard him as a team player or someone who will be reliable in adversity. There is a mental weakness there, and couple that with him wanting an Arsenal move last summer when we were interested makes me think this would be a mistake.
If we've really hell-bent on getting him, it only makes sense as a player or multiple-player swap deal. If Zaha comes in, Iwobi becomes redundant, so it would be an obvious one that he goes in the other direction.
125 Posted 29/07/2020 at 10:58:06
"We knew it was coming, but didn't expect it this soon," or words to that effect, for a player that's been used 14 times in the last two seasons.
126 Posted 29/07/2020 at 11:10:29
That's not a defence of Brands because he should be able to counteract that scenario by finding gems like he did in Holland, unless the teary one is clouding the issues once again.
I can see Carlo walking when he realises how this club operates.
127 Posted 29/07/2020 at 11:31:50
Any fool can splurge tens of millions on a player like him. I thought the point of a DoF was to source good value deals, like Moyes used to do; good, hungry players from other leagues who look like they would do well in the Premier League.
Branthwaite may be one of them, but we need more, especially midfielders and wing-backs.
128 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:19:08
129 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:47:14
I was just trying to make the point that we need some more controlled aggression and toughness in midfield and not soft, cuddly, pushover players.
130 Posted 29/07/2020 at 12:55:49
131 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:00:20
132 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:03:55
133 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:04:41
134 Posted 29/07/2020 at 13:13:16
135 Posted 29/07/2020 at 14:39:49
Not on your radar, Steve, Roger, Sam et al??? Maybe he doesn't show yet on Football Manager?
Plays for Blackpool
Born in Liverpool
Set to join Glasgow Rangers
Cannot sign professional until 17...
... Except in Scotland: where he can sign pro.
What's he doing in Blackpool? Must have tried out with our Academy, surely?
At least it saves us from Darren's immortal "Weston having a Weston" — which of course he would not say, the lad being so young.
136 Posted 29/07/2020 at 14:46:19
We're being run by morons and there literally is no hope.
137 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:15:03
Better to look elsewhere as I am sure there are younger hungrier players at half the cost.
138 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:32:06
139 Posted 29/07/2020 at 15:48:09
He's better than those two but it should involve no or limited additional money!
140 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:01:42
I especially like the Wikipedia item which references his first appearance for Palace as a substitute in the 70th minute and he received a (predictable) yellow card 4 minutes later for retaliation. That's James Mc for you.
141 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:29:48
But yes, Macca remains a yellow card machine. He did also lead the Premier League in yellow card rate with one every 205 minutes (including the one he got against us at the 10-minute mark). Nobody else was even close.
142 Posted 29/07/2020 at 16:45:20
Barkley faded somewhat at Everton and failed to make an impression in his early Chelski days but has come on since without being a starter. However, what we have in midfield now is no better. Very few players have ever impressed when coming back to Everton a second time.
We need some tenacious wide midfielders, not feeble players like Walcott, Bernard and Iwobi, who haven't earned their wages this season.
143 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:26:12
I don't know where you're going regarding indiscipline with the yellow cards, because in 91 appearances for Everton, he had 16 yellow, no red, for Palace 35 games 9 yellow??
As for his replacement Delph, he played 13 games, wow, 5 yellow, 1 red, I rest my case.
144 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:37:56
The club needs a proper transfer plan and surely, lessons have been learnt from recent summer transfer windows.
145 Posted 29/07/2020 at 19:54:58
Apparently Carlo is due to meet with them next week to discuss plans.
If this is true, it's no wonder we're always the bridesmaid and picking up players other clubs don't want.
146 Posted 29/07/2020 at 20:54:05
If we sign Lingard, then that's the end of the road. I think I would lose all hope for the club and we should change the club badge to a white flag. I want to say it won't happen but, with our recent recruitment policy, you just can't totally rule it out.
147 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:24:43
I would be very happy to see 2 players on the fringe go and be replaced by Zaha.
148 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:27:58
As we've said so many times on TW, the definition of madness, and at Everton, if they don't learn from their recent past mistakes, then, it's mediocrity we face.
149 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:31:39
What a shower of shite.
150 Posted 29/07/2020 at 22:59:38
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we signed him. He could then join the long line of expensive imposters, who nobody else wants, to impose himself on long-suffering devout Evertonians and become another mercenary who bleeds the club dry.
151 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:04:31
He knows far more than any of us.
152 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:05:39
153 Posted 29/07/2020 at 23:45:08
154 Posted 30/07/2020 at 05:54:43
Yeah, I know, pedantic, but amusing.
155 Posted 30/07/2020 at 11:54:08
I don't want Stones back.
156 Posted 30/07/2020 at 11:56:34
157 Posted 30/07/2020 at 12:03:40
158 Posted 30/07/2020 at 13:18:52
Its a good move for Kieran Dowell, shame we couldnt have negotiated Aarons or Buendia coming this way + £ as part of the deal. Sadly, it possibly means those two are off elsewhere.
159 Posted 30/07/2020 at 13:31:38
The top clubs are in a prime position in negotiating for players compared to Everton and we may be forced to go back into the bargain basements again.
160 Posted 30/07/2020 at 14:59:01
Posters on here make me laugh. One minute we are saying we need more Dogs of War and mental toughness and the next minute we are lamenting a guy that could have made it to the top but has a lazy attitude.
161 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:00:39
162 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:14:09
163 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:29:50
Strongly expect Iwobi will be a first team regular (ish) next season. And would be amazed if we buy Zaha.
Deals are starting to get done now though so hopefully soon.
164 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:30:01
165 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:31:18
166 Posted 30/07/2020 at 17:38:40
167 Posted 30/07/2020 at 19:56:37
168 Posted 30/07/2020 at 20:02:35
169 Posted 30/07/2020 at 22:02:45
Who would you rather watch? Zaha or fucking Sigurdsson.
170 Posted 30/07/2020 at 22:06:42
171 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:07:51
172 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:15:12
The only positive I see is that he's actually a winger unlike Iwobi who's a 10, and Bernard, who's also a 10. We buy a lot of 10s at Everton!
173 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:33:58
Sorry, Nick (tongue-in-cheek). 👍👍
174 Posted 31/07/2020 at 08:45:50
Tbf, I think Bernard is a good little player but he's been Everton'd (I.e turned into a lazy bastard who doesn't care cos he's on a kings ransom every week and knows he can retire off it).
Iwobi, on the other hand, is right up there for the worst piece of business we've ever done award, which is saying something even for Everton. Absolutely desperate.
Are there any clubs left in the league that haven't had us off?
175 Posted 31/07/2020 at 09:31:14
176 Posted 31/07/2020 at 10:30:04
No more "nearly made it with a big team" cast-offs please.
177 Posted 04/08/2020 at 20:47:54
Disgusting business by Brands.
178 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:35:20
179 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:46:59
Instead we should spend the same money (and less wages) on Ismailia Sarr who is almost as good and 6 years younger. Get 3-4 good years out of Sarr and then sell for double the money. And repeat.
Younger, hungrier (but still proven) players who have resale value that means we can keep re-investing in the team.
Lets not keep making the same mistakes.
180 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:47:04
181 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:07:56
Who was it that said "Madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"? Paraphrased there but the principle is the same.
I agree with Sam, avoid Saha. To me he's a luxury player who likes to be the star attraction. On his day he's an extremely talented and effective player.
Thing is his day doesn't come round often enough and he'd be a luxury we can't afford IMO.
James. If you're taking the £30M for Zaha as "the figure", then we didn't pay more than that for Iwobi. The club paid between £27M and £28M rising to £34M if certain criteria were met.
Those criteria are very unlikely to be met.
182 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:34:08
Not taking anything as gospel. It's been widely circulating that Zaha will move on this summer and the fee will be around £30M given the current climate, numerous sources have reported this, not just the rags.
Iwobi add-ons could easily be met, I remember the Echo saying at the time of the deal, which would take it north of £30M. Whatever your stance on Zaha, surely you are not advocating this as good business?
183 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:42:40
It is further evidence though, of Brand's extremely poor record, if Zaha goes for less or similar money than we got Iwobi for.
184 Posted 07/08/2020 at 23:17:54
185 Posted 07/08/2020 at 23:59:57
The likes of Zaha, Maddison, Pulisic, Mahrez, Mane etc are rare commodities and, if he is available for £30M, I would certainly take him.
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