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1 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:45:45
Dark, dark days indeed for any Evertonian. Moshiri once said he didn't want Everton fans to be looking back nostalgically, rather looking forward.
Well let's look forward and get rid of this utter numb nuts.
2 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:54:13
4 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:22:36
5 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:26:37
6 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:33:15
On this basis I can only conclude that the three year plan is to make Everton fold as part of a monster tax/money laundering scam.
7 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:54:07
They took the cushions away, but nothing else has changed...oh, maybe the names, but we're still shite...and getting shite-er.
8 Posted 23/11/2019 at 00:05:44
There is one fan who sits not far from me in the upper gwladys, who every week screams his anger and frustration at the team. Nothing wrong with that, except his language is a bit choice, but he's never been spoken too by the stewards. Today though, he was up to his usual, but all he's doing is directing his anger and frustration at the team on the pitch. Some behind him finally snapped and had a go at him. It got so out of hand that the stewards and even police were in attendance. I think this person may have been ejected from the stadium at half time as I couldn't see him in the second half. I certainly didn't hear him. I kind of felt sorry for him if he was ejected, because, as I say, he is only directing his anger and frustration at the team, not any supporters around him.
My point being here, is that us as fans need to stick together and support the team. Once we start falling out with each other and start drifting away from the club, then we will be in serious trouble.
I know loads will say we are already in serious trouble, with or without fans having a go at each other, and I fully understand that, but, as I say, stick with team, keep the faith, and we can come through this.
9 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:10:46
10 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:14:10
11 Posted 23/11/2019 at 00:19:31
Yet Silva named him. I'd rather have had Davies being the launch pad with Gylfi playing deeper so the former could go through the middle or supply the wings.
Yes, that meant no out and out defensive midfielder but if you are at home against the bottom side, do you really need one?
I am sympathetic about the terrible VAR's that have stitched us up and Gomes being out but today there were no excuses.
The line up was asking for trouble, the subs came too late and our players have lost belief. Why he's brought back Tosun when DCL was gradually progressing is beyond me.
It's sad but he has to go now. Big shame because when I wished the end of our previous 3 coaches, the football had become turgid yet when I watched us at Goodison during the last 3 months of last season, we were lovely to see.
12 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:20:36
If fans want to drift away and stop supporting the club, then that's their choice.
13 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:23:31
14 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:26:39
Joe @9, great band :)
Andrew @11, I'd prefer if Sigurdsson never played another game as a Blue. I can't think of more than 10 minutes this year he was worthy of being on the pitch. Fond memories of last year are distant indeed.
Anyway, I'm nitpicking. First Silva goes, then all the Koeman/Walsh signings. Let's start there.
16 Posted 23/11/2019 at 00:44:29
Moyes and Mark Hughes allegedly being touted from within the board is grim reading and would not be surprised to see Phil Neville added to some nightmare ticket.
It strikes me what we now need is someone with a good proven track record of being able to manage a football club with a dysfunctional board . Therefore sadly Rafa Benitez would seem to be the outstanding candidate in the circumstances.
17 Posted 23/11/2019 at 00:49:27
I would just add that to suggest we do not deserve this kind of soul destroying rubbish is wrong. Look no further than across Stanley Park to see how an angry motivated crowd can force changes. Is it the case that we are not as passionate about our club as they are about theirs?
The mere mention of Benitez elicits an out pouring of small minded argument.
18 Posted 24/11/2019 at 04:49:23
Then I saw the light Kenwright gets locked up for fraud, Moshiri gets locked up for money laundering and Silva gets arrested for falsely taking over somebody else's identity(I.e. a premier league manager). They are all forced to pay massive compensation to the club and the supporters for years of deceit. DBB gets a job in the soup kitchens and Brands joins the Dutch diplomatic corps.
The club brings in an English speaking manager who runs the whole club with no interference from the board. and the players respond because they now understand what is expected of them instead of pretending to understand the gobbleydook that was put to them before.
Then I woke up and started reliving the nightmare.
19 Posted 24/11/2019 at 05:17:34
‘The mere mention of Benitez elicits an out pouring of small minded argument.
Why is it ‘small minded to object to a man who went out of his way to denigrate our club?
I find it quite depressing that so many people would willingly appoint someone who obviously has no respect for the club.
Moyes, Hughes, Benitez...if these are the options then I am not holding out much hope for the future.
20 Posted 24/11/2019 at 06:47:07
Fear not citizen's sheriff Moyes is older wiser and harder... The towns myher will give him the gold to buy the best possy to help rid our selves from the bad neighbours in red...
21 Posted 24/11/2019 at 07:08:17
22 Posted 24/11/2019 at 07:29:09
He must go after that. Can't believe I've woken up and they haven't binned him. Or are they finalising his replacement?
23 Posted 24/11/2019 at 07:43:45
He has now gone through the event horizon and has entered the black hole.
There is no escape now for him, it's over.
I hope they are promising the earth to Pochettino as we speak , Nil Satis and all that.
24 Posted 24/11/2019 at 08:54:37
25 Posted 24/11/2019 at 09:42:55
26 Posted 24/11/2019 at 10:19:45
Rather than querying Benitaz's words and demonstrating where he was wrong you label him as an enemy. Could you please provide examples of our claim to not being a small club. I will start you off with our magnificent history and our er', er' sorry Phil now you are on your own.
Don't mention the Hamper man or Boys pen Bill and his shonky tax dodging mates. Nor should you remind us of Kings Dock fiasco nor the even bigger farce of an off the shelf stadium as part of Tesco'sKirkby shopping centre nor knives to a gun fight and the list of phony managers and their signing of expensive misfits. After musing over that list of soul destroying failures rather than shooting the messenger I challenge you to state why and where Benitez was wrong when he used those words.
What this club desperately needs is a proven succesful manager who speaks the truth and knows how to fix problems.
The very last thing we need is another chancer.
27 Posted 24/11/2019 at 10:36:17
28 Posted 24/11/2019 at 19:47:11
His type of football is excruciating -- ask the Geordies. He's playing an outdated mode of football. I'm at a loss as to where all this 'great manager' stuff comes from. He's took teams down a Division in both Spain and England. Basically his reputation in England stems from the once in a lifetime fluke in Istanbul in 2005. Even there he was saved by an injury to one of his favourite selections that forced him to introduce a more tactically suitable player. And, according to RS legend, it was Gerard and not Benitez who gave the morale raising HT talk to the side.
I accept the trophies he has won elsewhere over his career but I just don't see him as suitable to our needs.
29 Posted 24/11/2019 at 21:45:58
He is the only manager in history to have won the UEFA Europa League, UEFA Super Cup, UEFA Champions League, and the FIFA Club World Cup. His Teams may have earned other trophies but any unbiased person would have to agree that the above alone is more than enough to earn a place among the worlds best managers.
He may have led Newcastle to relegation but that fate was expected long before he took over. He did, however, lead them back to the Premier League the following season. As for the Gerard legend, until it is verified by independent witnesses, it will be no more than a legend.
He left Liverpool and Barcodes after disputes with the two cancers and Mike Ashley. What is clear is the majority of Liverpool and Barcode fans did not want him to leave.
Since age 10, and for the following 70 years, I have been a passionate Everton supporter. It is for that reason I want only the best for the club and Rafa by any football standard is in that category. I sincerely ask you and others of a similar mind to not let his time at Anfield, successful though it was, cloud your judgement.
30 Posted 24/11/2019 at 22:07:19
And if you think Moyes was scared of the top teams, Benitez at Newcastle didn't even want to play them at all. 11 men back deep in his own half for 90 minutes against Man City. How often did he have to defend his negative tactics. We'll be terrible to watch, again.
Maybe the Toon Army liked him mostly because he seemed to dislike Ashley, like them?
31 Posted 24/11/2019 at 22:15:22
However do need someone who can work with difficult/naïve owners and a fan base that will need a lot of boxes ticked. Joe Royle and Howard Kendall found they could not match all expectations all of the time. Messiahs don't come that often but the owners and board should be competent enough to see when something is failing, unlikely to be fixed and source a suitable appointment.
For me Eddie Howe and Nuno Espirito have experience of managing in the division and being competitive with less resources than available to Silva. A move to a club with our ambition but dealing with immediate danger would probably work for both parties.
32 Posted 24/11/2019 at 22:25:00
He will eventually come back to the Premier League because his wife wants him to. She is still in the family home on the Wirral.
33 Posted 24/11/2019 at 22:27:43
We looked at Nuno...
It was reported he turned us down.
34 Posted 24/11/2019 at 23:56:07
If as you say, Rafa's wife wants him to return to the PL and his family is happy living in the Wirral
It would be a really good draw card for him to sign for us.
Those reasons could be the only way we could get a manager of his calibre.
35 Posted 25/11/2019 at 17:40:27
Moshiri is almost entirely responsible for getting him at great cost in the 1st place, Silva has had some nice moments but to me this was a self fulfilling prophecy and was the wrong appointment from the start.
Moshiris dilatoriness has meant that Mourinho is not available so yet another sign Moshiri lacks a footballing brain.
What should worry us are some of the names on the list, mainly Mark Hughes and Benitez. The idea that Mark Hughes could be considered as a manager of our club fills me with dread and a sense of doom. If you want relegation, then he is your man.
Benitez, better than Hughes but you could say that about any randomer walking down the street. His days of success have gone and not someone with vision for the future. Whilst he was at Liverpool, he seemed to have a scattergun method of buying players. He would bring players in with a great fanfare only for them to be never seen again and then sold. He is not the man for us.
Eddie Howe, manages a club that has no ambition but does a job but has he got it in him to take us on to the top 5/6? Clearly, if mid table is what you want for the club, (after keeping the team safe in the short term) great.
Arteta, possibly a good long term appointment but he has not managed anybody so he would be a real gamble. We dont know what his underlying philosophy is and he is completely untried. Actually, you would probably better giving the job to Dunc or even Rhino who know the club.
Finally, David Moyes, has he had previous management experience, yes. Most of all, with Everton. Does he have vision, yes but has not been able to bring in players because of a lack of resources to fulfil that. Is he recognisant of the need to build a team on a sound defence, yes. Can he motivate the squad, yes. Is he strong and firm if needed, yes. Does he have a strong and good record on transfers, yes. I will only mention one name, Tim Cahill. Seems to me the obvious choice.
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