The Blues had been hoping to take the young centre-half on loan from Stamford Bridge but with Antonio Rudiger's future in West London looking dicey, Frank Lampard has apparently decided to keep Tomori, although Everton haven't given up hope.
Everton have been strongly linked with Jean-Clair Todibo but face competition from Fulham who are prepared to pay £18m (which is short of Barcelona's £23m valuation) but would prefer a season-long loan with an option to buy.
Some reports today have suggested that they would like to take the same approach with Godfrey but the Canaries would only be interested in an outright sale and now The Telegraph claim that Everton have lodged a £26m (£20m, with £6m in add-ons) bid for the 22-year-old.
01/10 Update Norwich have reportedly rejected Everton's offer.
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1 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:28:37
2 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:30:07
3 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:33:18
Im am not 100% convinced that he would be a player we are targeting on those terms.
4 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:34:51
Good potential and could be developed into a real talent but £20-26m seems too much to me. Especially with Branthwaite waiting to return. And Gibson down the line maybe.
If we could get Godfrey on loan then great but cant see why Norwich would do that.
Godfrey could also play DCM in a pinch (he started off there) and maybe Brands thinks his versatility is worth paying a little extra for. Hes a £15m defender to my eyes currently, even with the English player markup.
5 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:35:24
6 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:39:23
I think Pennington has long since realized he doesn't feature in our plans
7 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:39:38
8 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:42:23
We need someone, and we need someone who will be content being 4th choice (while having the determination and desire to become 1st choice). 20 million is probably the same as 5 million 10 years ago (when we got Jags), so could be a good deal - and we need someone, an injury crisis at the back could undo all the good work done so far.
It would also give us a chance to send Branthweight on loan in January, if not before.
Then next season, maybe Mina (and his massive contract) can be moved on, and one of Branthweight or Gibson steps in. A good season, and Mina could also command a decent fee.
9 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:43:56
Be really surprised if it was on a CB who would basically being bought as a stopgap, unless there's a plan for Branthwaite once he's fit.
Can only see a loan/s.
10 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:52:29
11 Posted 30/09/2020 at 18:58:30
If I was Mina I would be really concerned if this were true. I watched quite a bit of the player towards the end of the season and he played mostly on the left but he is so right footed.
I would imagine if this was permanent then he may be required for the left for this season but no doubt will be on the other side sooner rather than later. With Keane getting a new deal then this may spell trouble for Big Yerry come next season.
He is also similar to what Mina is supposed to be;powerful, athletic, reads the game well. What he will bring is character, leadership, excellent on the ball and is quite vocal also. I think he can play with all our centre halves which is most important.
The downside is that he may not be ideal as we probably want a natural left sided partner for Holgate.
12 Posted 30/09/2020 at 19:41:32
That kind of a deal could suit us because it means spending no money right now and then we can pay for him next summer when there are a few big wage contracts expiring. It would make the accounts look a bit better.
13 Posted 30/09/2020 at 20:44:26
Sorry cant think of any other puns.
In Marcel we trust.
14 Posted 30/09/2020 at 21:04:32
15 Posted 30/09/2020 at 22:05:55
16 Posted 30/09/2020 at 22:18:45
He's played 50 games most of which were in a relegated season and he's worth 26 million I think not
Sell Bolasie for 34 and put a 60m bid in for Koulibaly cheers Carlo
17 Posted 30/09/2020 at 22:20:45
"If I was Branthwaite, Gibson and even Pennington, I'd be really pissed off. Don't think he'd be that much of an upgrade."
So one defender who has been on loan at lower Championship/League One clubs plus two youngsters who are still raw and developing. Yet a player with regular Premier League experience, still on the upward curve of his development, able to play with significantly better players than he was around at Norwich, is not considered an upgrade on those three.
Sky reporting the £26m bid now as well so guess this one has legs. We need a centre back, even with keeping the two youngsters and sending them on loan to further their game time.
I also don't understand the necessity to have man-mountain of centre halves. Who's the better centre half, Harry Maguire or Mason Holgate?
18 Posted 30/09/2020 at 22:20:47
19 Posted 01/10/2020 at 01:25:44
20 Posted 01/10/2020 at 01:27:12
How many of them have potential for playing wider or a little further forward?
21 Posted 01/10/2020 at 01:43:27
For all those surprised about our potential spending. Why? Carlo is clearly here to win. This season is about depth and capitalizing on there fixture congestion.
Its a gamble more than worth taking. If we go the full nine yards, well get a right back and winger in too. Watch this space!
22 Posted 01/10/2020 at 03:54:12
Branthwaite did an amazing job at the end of last season and genuinely looks the part.
Pennington at 26 has probably blown it with his time at Hull, but don't forget 4 years ago he was the coming king after playing and scoring in a derby.
Gibson again played every England age group but has gone out on loan, the kiss of death to Everton youngsters.
Can anyone tell me the last time we sent a player out on loan and he came back to start as a first team regular, probably Barkley.
If we are going to sign a CB he needs to be an improvement one of the three current starters and this lad clearly is not.
Waste of £26m in my opinion.
23 Posted 01/10/2020 at 05:06:50
24 Posted 01/10/2020 at 05:12:27
25 Posted 01/10/2020 at 07:50:24
Whereas the likes of Cantwell, Buendia, Aarons and Puki, caught the eye in a struggling side, but what do I know?As Sam said £26M sèms an awful lot for one who has experienced the Prem but has a lot to learn.
26 Posted 01/10/2020 at 08:03:06
27 Posted 01/10/2020 at 08:27:13
Nothing wrong with the concept of loans as Chelsea have shown recently, provided the structure of the youth set up is good and it's with a view to developing players.
As for Godfrey, like I say, he's a talented player. But strange to penny pinch with Gabriel and then spend on him (if that really is what has happened) especially when he's not really what we seemed to be after (taller left sided player). But if it happens we get a young versatile English player with plenty of ability who can be with us for many years - and help us tap up Aarons next summer.
28 Posted 01/10/2020 at 09:09:47
Read a report from a Shrewsbury reporter where a young Godfrey went there as a teen and played 51 games and was their player of the season in the defensive midfield position. I know the level difference is huge but he's now also played in a Championship winning Norwich team that plays good football and also played well in the Premier League (yes Norwich did get relegated) but didn't Aston Villa with Gana and Watford with Doucouré?
I personally think he'd be a fantastic signing and have complete faith in what Ancelotti wants. Plus he can also play right-back; someone with this kind of versatility will be worth his weight in gold over a long season. As seen last night, with 3 injuries in 1 match, we need strength in depth in multiple positions.
29 Posted 01/10/2020 at 09:20:09
Gibson is out on loan for a year and we need pace at the back. This lad is quick and can play left side with a left foot. Trust in Brands and Ancelotti on this one.
30 Posted 01/10/2020 at 09:36:08
They were so poor defensively last season mainly due to being decimated by injuries at CB. Godfrey played most of the games, but had about 6 different CB partners (including a LB and two CDMs!), so no partnership/understanding.
People rave about Aarons – arguably Godfrey has been responsible for creating a lot of his showreel opportunities, with his ability to ping a 40-yard diagonal crossfield ball finding the RB in acres of space (which quite often he chose rather frustratingly not to exploit).
Before playing CB he spent a year on loan in League One, playing CDM for Shrewsbury. He played virtually every game, they got to the play-off final and he was MOTM in a televised FA Cup game against West Ham playing that position, but Farke has always insisted he's a CB (and Norwich have been so short of CBs anyway...)
He's knuckled down and got on with life back in the Championship this season, unlike some of his deluded team-mates...
The lad is a proper athlete, and a good footballer who has all the attributes to be whatever Ancelotti wants to make him.
31 Posted 01/10/2020 at 09:48:06
32 Posted 01/10/2020 at 10:29:50
33 Posted 01/10/2020 at 10:56:10
Is he going to be 1st or 4th choice CB? Is he going to replace one of Mina, Keane, Holdgate? Do we need him when we also have Branthwaite, Gibson or even Digne who can step in?
I would rather us strengthen the midfield or even the forward line more.
34 Posted 01/10/2020 at 11:11:57
It might not be that much money. I've completely lost touch, but if Marcel and Carlo rate him then I'm on board. To quote our Captain: "I believe every word that comes out of that man's mouth."
35 Posted 01/10/2020 at 11:13:24
The fact that he has some pace, talented on the ball, plays left-sided centre-back and is resilient is selling him to me. He would cover a few bases over a season at CB and DCM and RB. His pace athleticism and versatility could make him a very useful player that strengthens the squad for the long season.
At 22 he is an investment too and his wage demands you would expect would not be stratospheric. Sounds like Brands has had him properly assessed if the bid reports are true.
36 Posted 01/10/2020 at 12:10:13
Can anyone tell me the last time we sent a player out on loan and he came back to start as a first-team regular, probably Barkley.
37 Posted 01/10/2020 at 12:23:26
Interesting re Rio – he probably sees a lot of similar qualities to himself in Ben.
You're welcome Tony @35. Probably true about wage demands too – they don't pay silly wages at Norwich.
I don't really understand the whole 1st / 4th choice CB thing – we don't have a world class CB, surely every CB place is up for grabs?
At the end of the day, does anyone not trust Ancelotti to make the right decisions?
38 Posted 01/10/2020 at 12:25:49
If we can get a good deal then I think he could be a good signing. If they want too much though we go elsewhere e.g. Todibo. Nevertheless there is a serious danger we get no-one and I don't trust Mina to stay fit. Plus there's no guarantee that Holgate or Braithwaite will recover as expected. Should have kept Gibson.
39 Posted 01/10/2020 at 12:37:49
Players are loaned out and if they come back and look the part, the club will say yes, you're the man.
Holgate went on loan and came back a better player, got his chance and took it.
Dowell and others did ok, but when training the club obviously thought 'no, not good enough' or 'not ready'. Some players might need a permanent move away to actually develop i.e. Lundstram.
If Brands has identified him and said, along with Carlo, he's the man, then great.
Liverpool fans aren't worried that Jota has come in and Brewster will likely go. Because they trust Klopp has identified Jota as being at the level they want, while Brewster is not.
Gibson is on loan, and Branthwaite is still very raw. Both, if they improve, will be in our future. If they do not, they will not.
I haven't seen this Godfrey, so can't pass judgement. But I assume Brands and Carlo have, and have passed judgement.
Norwich conceded a lot last season, but yes, they played very gung ho, flying full backs, no solid defensive midfielder.
20 million (+6) isn't all that much in today's market.
40 Posted 01/10/2020 at 13:08:04
41 Posted 01/10/2020 at 13:13:09
That all said and done, I feel a little ambivalent about this one, seems to be some concrete interest (Carlo hardly denied it did he!) and whilst yes he could become exactly what we need after another season or two I just can't see him strolling into this team, especially when Mason is back.
The only reason we need to strengthen this area further in my eyes by signing a 1st team ready CB is because Carlo wants the option to go three at the back sometimes. Curious.
42 Posted 01/10/2020 at 13:14:55
43 Posted 01/10/2020 at 13:42:40
Norwich just rejected our offer for the lad anyway. So pointless discussion. Surely we will not up our offer.
44 Posted 01/10/2020 at 13:57:27
Someone like Godfrey has played a fair amount of games at DMC so could definitely do a job there. Hes also pretty quick and good on the ball which means hed probably be reasonable at RB too.
Todibo also could be used in a few positions due to his athleticism and ball skills.
Oh for a (quicker) Phil Neville on loan!
45 Posted 01/10/2020 at 14:13:16
46 Posted 01/10/2020 at 14:44:23
47 Posted 01/10/2020 at 14:46:24
48 Posted 01/10/2020 at 14:52:06
49 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:16:09
Unless he sees Mina as being in his last year before being shown the door. Or maybe Gibson and Branthwaite are further from ready than we think.
50 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:16:42
Holgate on his own was never enough cover so they should have fixed this ages ago. Now we're scrambling in desperation to find someone. Not very impressed.
51 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:17:33
52 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:43:40
I'd take Rudiger on loan happily but i'm not sure i'd want to buy him permanently. If we had £25+m to spend on a CB then I think we'd have upped our bid for Gabriel.
I still think a loan for Todibo may be the most realistic if we don't want to have to pay for someone permanently. Or Adarabaiyo would be cheap and is very decent.
53 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:44:28
It seems this time Brands is determined not to be embarrassed hence our multi player approach. I have no doubt we will land a target before the deadline.
Ref Godfrey, good age profile seems to have rave reviews from Norwich supporters & those in the know so Ill bow to their superior knowledge.
Ref not knowing the player, I didnt know much about Joleon Lescott but what a buy he was.
In Carlo/Brands we trust.
54 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:47:13
55 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:51:47
If we sign Godfrey then we'll have four centre backs ahead of these two next summer. Sounds like one too many to me.
56 Posted 01/10/2020 at 15:56:48
57 Posted 01/10/2020 at 17:03:56
It would be interesting to know how much they would want. Give them a deadline and if they don't do a deal soon we will have to walk away. We cant afford to be left high and dry.
58 Posted 01/10/2020 at 17:10:39
Sam, you'll have noted with interest that Sangare has joined PSV. Was expecting a bigger step up for him but interesting to see how he gets on.
59 Posted 01/10/2020 at 17:25:19
60 Posted 01/10/2020 at 17:33:07
61 Posted 01/10/2020 at 17:49:21
Now flick back to the West Ham game and reflect how well Digne, an excellent ball player did? This is the template for sure. If we have one dominant centre half on Keane, the Godfrey can sweep behind him with his pace.
My one concern is the lack of balance, I know he can play LCB but hey how smooth was Digne moving the ball and creating natural left footed angles? Its a big deal.
I actually see him and Holgate pairing well, because we shouldnt be defending in most of games, Keane will be ‘horses for courses, height doesnt bother me as much as pace and ability with the ball. If we play a high line, then our weakness is pace, not height.
So a bit of a shout for Rudiger, on loan with no others options sure. I happen to think his injury has set him back, a lot. From prime defender to a shadow of the player he was.
Lets no shrink back when weve started so well and Carlo knows what he needs, especially when its obvious to all. Let Gibson and Branthwaite develop, they aint ready for this type of season.
62 Posted 01/10/2020 at 18:47:34
Yes he played out of position (much like Lescott did, or Jagielka did, before cementing themselves as centre halves).
Playing a full season in a decent WBA team didn't improve him? Just because he was out of position? That's a very simplistic way to view things.
He played a full season, that is what is key. So when he stepped up, he was ready and confident to take the position once he got a chance.
That is what young players must do.
63 Posted 01/10/2020 at 18:55:34
Its a strange one that the transfer window ends with European clubs on the 5th. But then continues for another 6 days with EFL clubs only. There will be a few of those Championship clubs smelling the fear of some exposed PL clubs looking for cover. Prices will be quoted higher and they will stick closer to their price.
Its a good strategy from us trying to get the deal done now, but Norwich know it may suit them to wait. Its further complicated as Newcastle are waiting in the wings if we pull out, and one or two other clubs will come out of he woodwork too.
24m rising to 30m is probably what it would take. If Carlo wants him, pay the extra 4m.
They reject that and its got to be walk away time.
64 Posted 01/10/2020 at 19:04:31
Pete, premier league clubs can do business with EFL clubs after the first window closure on Monday.
They just can't do business internationally or with another premier league club after the first closure.
65 Posted 01/10/2020 at 19:26:56
66 Posted 01/10/2020 at 19:32:55
Hard to keep up with it all mate.
67 Posted 01/10/2020 at 19:44:31
68 Posted 01/10/2020 at 19:48:19
69 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:09:08
Godfrey in blue before the weekend.
70 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:13:30
71 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:14:53
72 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:23:30
Top flight footy has changed massively in the last 5years. I have to ask whilst Holgates loan was important to him it wasnt the right move imo. Pulis was not the guy to look after Mason. He also got very lucky with our own centre half situation, fair dos though, he took the opportunity.
Are there really lots of good examples where weve sent players off, then returning first team ready? Is Kenny any better than when he left? Dowell stalled, Garbutt just disappeared and even Barkleys loan was catastrophic! The only one I can recall is Seamus at Blackpool, that seems a life time away!
There are few lower league English clubs Id send a player two now, perhaps Swansea or Norwich where they focus on playing football.
Id loan a player to a mid-table, relegation type side in the premier league because thats the level we need them to play at. Perhaps abroad seems more appropriate nowadays.
Loans if they are to work, need much more thought out into them if the player has a chance to succeed.
73 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:24:38
As an aside I'd be really surprised and disappointed if Kean left. I think he was ill last night, not left out. Hope so anyway.
74 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:27:42
75 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:29:24
76 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:29:52
Mr B is not messing about is he ! and Farhad must be liking what he is seeing and striking whilst the iron is hot.
Medical within 24 hrs it says too.
Amazing couple of months this.
77 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:31:22
Also, I dont see Holgate as so immense that we need a back up for him. We need a centre back to come and make that shirt their own. Because there are two up for grabs
I wonder whose signing this is. Brands? Ancelotti? Who?
78 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:37:17
When all fit, we will be overloaded. Gibson will be looking for a chance when he returns from loan, Branthwaite won't be happy for too long if stuck in the Under-23s and there will be four seniors in front of him.
I don't understand this as we have other areas to strengthen and Digne is decent as a stand-in. I wouldn't be surprised to see a sale come January! Have to trust Carlo as he has shown every sign of knowing what he is doing.
79 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:37:56
80 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:38:14
81 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:39:58
It will be a joint effort, Carlo on record saying that he wants the lad. [in so many words].
Everton chief Carlo Ancelotti confirmed he was a big admirer of the powerhouse defender after Wednesdays 4-1 League Cup win over West Ham.
He said: ‘We are looking for a centre back. Godfrey is a really good centre back but is playing for Norwich and I cannot say anything.
82 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:41:27
But from looking around, he seems.to have all the attributes we need from our 4th choice centre back.
He's got Premier League experience, he won't be on mega wages, he won't immediately expect a place in the team (like if we signed a Rudigier type). But he's young and with the attributes to really push for a place in the first team. Now we have 4 centre backs in Mina, Keane, Holgate and hopefully Godfrey and Ancelotti will put it to them - prove to me you deserve to be in the team.
In a year, we can sell Mina and his big wage, and promote one of Branthwaite or Gibson
Also regarding Godfrey - he's a ball playing centre back with good distribution, and can also play as defensive midfielder. At Norwich he's been playing in a team that has, albeit rather naively, focused on playing from the back. So his style fits with what we hope to instill.
Who knows, World Cup.2022 could be an all blue affair with Gordon, DCL, Holgate, Godfrey, Keane and a hopefully improved Pickford
83 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:46:56
84 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:49:31
85 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:50:35
Keep up the good work
86 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:53:44
87 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:55:22
A powerhouse you say?
Interesting. Perhaps my eyes deceive me.
@ 83 Paul. Tell us your thoughts on £25m man Godfrey
@84 Rob. Hilarious. Cheers rob. Thanks mate. It was a genuine question. Id like to know who else is involved in transfer dealings. As this is absolutely nothing at all like Allan or James. And not really like Doucoure.
88 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:56:44
If we dominate games in the manner weve done so far id expect of all four were for Holgate and Godfrey to play, Keane when we play a better side and we have less possession. Mina is left without a chair when the music stops. Hes never nailed his place, nor stay injury free, at centre back you have to be durable. He aint.
89 Posted 01/10/2020 at 20:57:13
90 Posted 01/10/2020 at 21:00:24
91 Posted 01/10/2020 at 21:02:43
No not me, that was part of the article where I got Carlo's quote about him from.
Carlo knows a player when he sees one so I have got a lot of faith if he has rubber-stamped it.
92 Posted 01/10/2020 at 21:03:42
I wonder how many more players we need to complete the quality of squad the Manager would be happy with.
93 Posted 01/10/2020 at 21:30:00
94 Posted 01/10/2020 at 21:42:42
Thanks mate. Can you post me a link as I cannot find the quote
95 Posted 01/10/2020 at 22:16:27
I think it comes down to the quality of the loan. Send them somewhere where they'll get good experience in a team that suits their style of play and it can be a great system.
Our current club captain is a good example.
96 Posted 02/10/2020 at 07:43:07
97 Posted 03/10/2020 at 08:11:38
People moaning about loan deals being the death of players and currently the club captain went on loan – Holgate, Barkley, Osman.
The one thing we do not have at centre-back at the moment is genuine pace; sign someone with genuine pace and people moan and say it doesn't make sense.
Come on, you moaning sods – BT Sport 3 pm – just enjoy it, for fuck's sake!
98 Posted 03/10/2020 at 09:16:25
The point is, Carlo Ancelotti, the coach sees enough potential in this player that he believes he can "coach" him to become a much better player in a much better side.
That is what great coaches see and do.
We have already seen the effects go his work with several players in our squad already.
The other thing is that Carlo has signed a five year deal at Everton and is clearly taking it seriously.
He has already addressed the here and now- with the three mid field signings we are currently raving about.
But he and Brands are no doubt also looking to build for the future. Nkounkou is an example as is Branthwaite.
Godfrey may well be part of that process - or even a "halfway house" type of acquisition - i.e. bought to play now in cameos - but to become an established player but the time the next rebuild starts - so that there is some continuity.
Lastly, I don't understand why everyone is flapping about how much Everton is spending on transfers, or the current size of the squad.
For year we were penniless and complained about it.
Now we are rich and are complaining about it.
For once I believe those in charge of the club's playing side (Carlo and Marcel) know what they are doing, what they are trying to achieve and how to deal with it ( bloated squad included).
Let's just relax, let them get on with it - and enjoy the ride for once. NSNO is on its way back.
99 Posted 03/10/2020 at 09:33:35
But it's Zouma the younger. Even so its a bit of a step down, I thought he was quite promising at Wigan a while back.
100 Posted 03/10/2020 at 19:48:32
101 Posted 04/10/2020 at 10:53:55
102 Posted 04/10/2020 at 11:06:05
103 Posted 04/10/2020 at 11:22:07
Looks like a striker has to join Godfrey as incoming transfer but who ?
Who else can be shipped out this week? Hopefully Besic, Sandro, Pennington and Walcott!
104 Posted 04/10/2020 at 11:26:21
All it takes is an injury or a loss of form for DCL and who is going to play up top for us? Cenk?!
I would not be letting this deal happen without a other player coming in on loan to cover the striking position.
105 Posted 04/10/2020 at 11:35:40
106 Posted 04/10/2020 at 16:39:42
We need Romero or any goalkeeper. Pickford has a range as a penguin.
If Moise goes, we need an estabishled striker who knows where the goal is as backup.
And, perhaps Godfrey can step up as DM when Allan is out?
107 Posted 04/10/2020 at 19:56:52
108 Posted 04/10/2020 at 00:09:02
Ground breaking programme!
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