According to The Mirror, the 28-year-old's opportunities for a guaranteed starting role at Real Madrid have been going the same way as James Rodriguez's did under Zinedine Zidane and he could be allowed to leave the Bernabeu on loan in the next transfer window.
Goodison Park is seen as a promising destination for Isco because of the presence of James, who is a close friend of the Spaniard, and former Madrid boss, Carlo Ancelotti.
Real are shopping his name around potential suitors who would be keen to take him on loan with an obligation to buy, plus a guarantee to pay his sizeable salary and then front up £18m+ next summer to sign him permanently.
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1 Posted 31/10/2020 at 21:05:19
2 Posted 31/10/2020 at 21:18:48
3 Posted 31/10/2020 at 21:50:55
4 Posted 31/10/2020 at 21:53:21
Gracias estoy aqui todo semana
5 Posted 31/10/2020 at 21:54:59
Like James, Isco is a world-class talent who has gone adrift at RM... just 4 goals and 4 assists in his last 50 appearances, half of them off the bench. A chancier proposition than James because of his perceived laziness -- when he loses the ball, he doesn't go get it back.
But if Carlo can get him back up to speed as he has James -- oh, baby, look out. This guy has GIFTS.
6 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:29:09
Seriously, this could be great news for us but allegedly on silly money, could be a bit of a stumbling stumbling block. Don't like the idea of his ' laziness ' as Mike G suggests, what with James not tracking back, this guy could seriously improve us when in the mood, but seriously hinder us when he's not.
Marcel hopefully can come up with a solution.
7 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:35:38
8 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:37:06
9 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:52:36
No creas todo lo que lees, jaja
Be truly amazing if another maestro follows James you can never have enough real footballers in a squad
10 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:56:55
11 Posted 31/10/2020 at 22:57:59
12 Posted 31/10/2020 at 23:04:19
I guess a loan is low risk but I expect most of our signings moving forwards to be in Brands 22-26 years old range.
We need some dynamism out wide to cover for and complement Richarlison. Really like Kreppin Diatta myself, the next Mane.
13 Posted 31/10/2020 at 23:09:12
14 Posted 31/10/2020 at 23:10:08
Thing is the arrival of James meant we could drop siggy better quality means improved options. Poor squad quality has been our Achilles since Adam was a lad
15 Posted 31/10/2020 at 23:23:34
there's nobody around who is as good as Rodriguez, he laid on four gilt edged chances against the champions with a battered ball.
16 Posted 31/10/2020 at 23:29:43
17 Posted 01/11/2020 at 00:12:00
18 Posted 01/11/2020 at 01:40:11
19 Posted 01/11/2020 at 01:57:30
20 Posted 01/11/2020 at 02:26:08
Peter's got it right -- this brand of "oldish pile of shit" works for me.
Bill, nobody sober ever called Siggy a "maestro" even when we were negotiating for him.
21 Posted 01/11/2020 at 02:32:40
Several Champions League and La Liga titles, compared with what? 24 year old shit show in Iwobi or 31 year old Sigurdsson whose never had it.
How on earth is this not a great opportunity for us if this is true? This bloke everyday of the week please.
22 Posted 01/11/2020 at 02:53:38
Isco would be a good addition to the squad and might finally persuade Sigurddson to leave.
23 Posted 01/11/2020 at 06:55:55
Current club trying to offload him - Tick
No mad scramble from elsewhere to sign him - Tick
No other chairman prepared to meet Madrids demands - Tick
Very few clubs able to afford his wages - Tick
Like the other Spanish giant. Madrid are seeing Everton as a ready made recycling plant. The only club who will pay top dollar to take the players they no longer want....And we still have people talking about "Carlo's pulling power"....Sigh
Romantic naivety and sycophancy have long since replaced hard logic and reality at this club. I knew I should have one straight to the match day thread.
A talented player, but he should only be brought in if he is prepared to take a massive pay cut.
24 Posted 01/11/2020 at 07:18:39
As I see it Isco can only really play the number 10 role, which we dont really use and where we already have our most expensive player ever. If we could sell Sigurdsson then perhaps a loan for Isco makes sense but otherwise we have other priorities such as a dynamic right back, another fast, goal scoring winger or possibly a box to box Gomes upgrade.
25 Posted 01/11/2020 at 07:37:47
With that in mind, it makes sense to buy hi-quality but possibly short life span players with a few good seasons in them. He is not bothered about cost but getting the best he can for NOW.
Those with no prospects are shown the door, Walcott etc, and younger players like Gordon will find it hard to get game time because results are everything in the short term. If we do get the odd younger model with the required skill sets Brilliant! but I think it will be few and far between. Carlo believes in his ability to get the best out of players he knows, the question then springs to mind what happensafter three years?
26 Posted 01/11/2020 at 08:06:31
27 Posted 01/11/2020 at 08:38:42
No one knows him like Carlo as he was his first signing when at Real.
If Carlo wants to reunite and the player is interested then it will happen and will be another coup for us.
28 Posted 01/11/2020 at 08:41:23
29 Posted 01/11/2020 at 08:51:20
30 Posted 01/11/2020 at 09:09:58
31 Posted 01/11/2020 at 09:54:04
We have an abundance of attacking midfielders/no10s who just cannot produce the goods when it matters, we need to trim those five and replace with one good one !
Sam talks about Diatta as being the next Mane. We really have to consider the ‘type of player we buy. Do we want a player in the ‘Mane mold or another player in the ‘James mold.
We suffer more than anything when Richarlison is out so I would argue we need a player more in the ‘Richie or ‘Mane mold. Diatta (taking Sams word for this one), Ismailia Sarr ?
This should be the priority over the Isco signing.
32 Posted 01/11/2020 at 10:09:11
A lot on here didnt fancy James but reality is Isco is a top class player and takes us up another level.
Im happy weve changed our transfer policy to bringing in instant quality now. Get higher up the league then focus on bringing in top young potential.
With Allan and Doucoure doing defensive work our number 10 shouldnt have to do as much. Isco can carry the ball well which is what we need in the centre of the park and is our biggest flaw when Richarlison isnt available.
The more quality players we bring in the more top young ones will want to join.
On a side note lets get back to winning ways today! Coyb!
33 Posted 01/11/2020 at 10:34:14
Gracias, como un scouser un día voy a dominaré inglés, jaja
34 Posted 01/11/2020 at 10:46:24
So let's see some effort.
35 Posted 01/11/2020 at 10:47:51
He will join James,Siggy,Bernard,Iwobi and Gordon who all see themselves playing there.
Perhaps the idea is that we are trying to get two teams in training. One will be called 'the number tens' and the other will be 'second man midfielders'. Meanwhile we haven't got a winger or a striker at the club and very little pace or speed to call upon. Except in traditional Everton fashion with an unregistered player.
36 Posted 01/11/2020 at 11:06:48
37 Posted 01/11/2020 at 11:24:02
Comparing Isco to Jodi Morris is baffling. There is a universe between their two levels of talent. Remember when James was being linked to us at first. A lot of 'experts' were saying that he wasn't a team player, he only played when he wanted, he wouldn't track back to defend. If you watch our matches, James is quite often seen in our box defending, and I've seen him make a couple of telling tackles defending. It's all well and good having spotlights and tail fins on the car of the dreams, but if the chassis and the engine are no good, it's not much good. Carlo is still giving the youth a shot, Gordon, Branthwaite, Nkounkou, Godfrey, and Simms is training regularly with the first team along with several other U23's. Trust in Carlo, I haven't seen him let us down yet!?
38 Posted 01/11/2020 at 11:35:41
Dismissing players because not a mad scramble by champions league clubs is not a good idea (ie Rodriguez would not be here who is unbelievable!)
39 Posted 01/11/2020 at 11:40:52
He's been well coached, will be a good pro having been at Madrid for 7 years and is another world name. He doesn't track back a great deal, but the positives far outweigh that particular negative for me.
40 Posted 01/11/2020 at 11:52:23
Anyway, that aside, Isco is a terrific footballer. He could replace the anonymous Gomes in the 433 we have (roughly) adopted this season.
Ideally, I'd go for players on the up like Hlozek, Ihatteren and Szoboszlai. But it's nice to be in a position where I'd settle for Isco.
As you say, Sam, we could also do with a bit of dynamism too with the likes of Diatta and Sarr. A back up striker would be good, too.
But I don't expect we'll fix all (or perhaps any) of these problems in January. It's more of a job for next summer - along with (let's be honest) possibly finding a replacement for the brilliant Richarlison.
41 Posted 01/11/2020 at 12:46:30
42 Posted 01/11/2020 at 21:24:53
43 Posted 02/11/2020 at 01:19:14
44 Posted 02/11/2020 at 10:01:56
To turn around and say you wouldn't sign a player of Isco's quality because he doesn't track back is pathetic.No wander we are shite.Duncan McKenzie,Duncan you were shite lad,not enough tracking back for toffewebbers !
45 Posted 02/11/2020 at 12:00:48
46 Posted 02/11/2020 at 12:19:46
47 Posted 02/11/2020 at 12:59:40
Manet on the left, Monet on the right and Dominic Calvert-Lautrec through the middle.
48 Posted 02/11/2020 at 13:17:53
49 Posted 02/11/2020 at 13:48:50
50 Posted 02/11/2020 at 14:25:32
51 Posted 02/11/2020 at 14:54:07
52 Posted 02/11/2020 at 16:31:43
cheap joke John. It's not much fun on Toffeweb at the moment. Might as well use an opportunity when it presents itself.
53 Posted 02/11/2020 at 16:37:16
54 Posted 02/11/2020 at 16:44:09
You could always brush it off if you find it unpallettable!
55 Posted 02/11/2020 at 17:42:46
56 Posted 02/11/2020 at 17:43:27
57 Posted 02/11/2020 at 18:59:17
58 Posted 02/11/2020 at 19:08:55
Though all three might conceivably be well hung.
59 Posted 02/11/2020 at 19:58:27
Not saying I wouldnt mind Isco, but Id agree that the squad is more desperate for more pace allied to genuine ability at the moment, so getting Isco would have to be balanced against other targets that could get wiped out.
28 is potentially getting to the wind-down after the absolute peak and how many top years youd get from Isco will be heavily influenced by his attitude, injury history and ability to compensate for the effects of general wear and tear
60 Posted 02/11/2020 at 22:17:35
Cisco yyeess!! Quality, presumably isn't inured, maintains speed, fitness and takes a pay cut.
28 not old, nearer reserve age than retirement. Certainly peak years with the right motivation from Carlo. Not a James or Ricy but better than the rest in a wide forward role.
If this continues to be the kind of player we recruit, next season promises to be even better. Until then we need to develop with game time (whilst injuries and suspensions dictate) our young players ie Gordon and Davies.
Iwobi, Siggy, Tosun are not the answer, they don't even know the question. Impact subs maybe, but I'd rather have Bolasie on the pitch.
61 Posted 03/11/2020 at 00:43:01
62 Posted 03/11/2020 at 19:29:05
63 Posted 04/11/2020 at 03:34:49
64 Posted 05/11/2020 at 05:25:45
65 Posted 05/11/2020 at 08:09:15
I don't want us to pay half of his £230,000 a 'king week to bring him on loan just so he can get fit on our dime then the loan runs out.
Injury not withstanding, Gomes looked good on loan. Bernard look excellent when he first came and keen to impress...they all do...mostly.
I love beautiful footballers as much as the next guy but sometimes you need players to just do a job, your Sandy Browns, your Alan Harpers.
Who is he going to replace? Where does he fit in. James hit the ground running and he didn't look like he'd been stuffing his face during a 3mth lock down.
Can he play up front. Can he play right back...Throw £115,000 a week at a loan position we really need cover in.
66 Posted 06/11/2020 at 10:44:27
67 Posted 06/11/2020 at 10:54:32
68 Posted 06/11/2020 at 10:56:42
A fit Isco would be good. But not a fat one.
What we really need is:
- a dynamic presence in midfield to supplement Allan and Doucoure (probably one for next summer - Cantwell perhaps)
- a dynamic right back as heir to Coleman (another for next summer - Aarons perhaps, to complete the Norwich connection)
- cover for DCL (might get something in January - a loan most likely - and always tricky to get someone decent to play second fiddle. Maybe Maupay if he completely alienates himself at Brighton?)
- cover for Richarlison (hopefully Gordon can make this role his own - otherwise something random and underwhelming on loan - like Rabbi Matondo)
As ever, when reality hits, we always start looking to the next transfer window. Could be quite a turnover of players summer 2021. Just hope we can hang onto Richarlison for one more year.
69 Posted 06/11/2020 at 10:58:39
70 Posted 06/11/2020 at 16:33:05
Dynamic midfielder, not sure about Cantwell, a bit lightweight Tom Davis +. But could improve further. Buendia is a very tidy and feisty footballer who could be a very useful addition, he does play across the midfield, including centrally, creates chances and is a forward thinking player.
Cover for Richie, Gordon is a proper footballer with improvement in him, he can make this role his own and if he performs it will save us a fortune too.
Cover for DCL. Cenk for this season. We are strictly talking cover here, so someone like Giroud, Ings or that type of age/quality could do a worthy support role and rescue points or grab winners late on.
Right back Seamus has confounded his critics and has been not at his prime best, but really good still. However he is not getting any younger, picking up injuries, and this slot needs attention. Aarons for me too, but there may be good options that Brands has got his eye on for a lot less money. This Emmerson lad sounds like a good prospect.
71 Posted 06/11/2020 at 16:36:36
as Robert@68 points out we need a dynamic right back and a more dynamic central midfielder (ideally one who can create and score) alongside Allan and Doucoure. I know he was poor at Bayern (and Swansea) but Renato Sanches has looked very decent for the last season or two in France and I still like Buendia at Norwich.
72 Posted 06/11/2020 at 17:03:23
But to me, what our club still lacks the most is talent. Pure creative genius. When James and Richi are out, we have none of it, and that's the gap between us and clubs like the RS and Chelsea and City -- they have layers of talent, on the pitch and off the bench, that they can mix with their hardworking tradesmen.
We have plenty of artisans. We remain desperately short of artists. Isco or somebody like him is a higher priority for me than a new right back, although if we could find a real attacking force there I'm all for it.
73 Posted 06/11/2020 at 18:53:19
When I think of a real strong midfield I cant help to look at Chelsea. They have a real energy, dynamism and tenacity about their midfield, goals, pace and skill as well. I am a bit jealous.
Mount, Kante, Pulisic, Kovacic, Jorginho, Havertz all players who will be at you relentlessly for 90 minutes. Chelsea pay massive attention to their midfield strength and it keeps them ticking along in the top 4 and challengers for everything.
Whilst Isco is a real talent, does he give us the energy, dynamism and mobility that we are crying out for? I have to agree with Sam above, with already having James, Isco is not top priority.
74 Posted 09/11/2020 at 22:56:40
75 Posted 11/11/2020 at 20:03:04
76 Posted 12/11/2020 at 06:42:40
I have noticed in the games where we have been over-run and outplayed there is a common theme, we have afforded far too much space to the opposition in all cases. We have failed to close them down when they have possession.
The games we have done well in, we have enjoyed the lion's share of possession, passed accurately and swiftly, and it does work, let your opponents chase you. let them tire themselves out chasing shadows.
Right! Have you got Finch Farm or Carlo's Number? 😜
77 Posted 12/11/2020 at 07:49:35
Saturday highlighted you can only have so many passengers in your team without the ball. We can cover James, but Bernard, Sigurdsson, and Gomes is a step too far in a starting XI.
78 Posted 12/11/2020 at 17:17:37
I couldn't agree with you more. Defending does start from the front; however, when you have just one forward, ie, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, running his bollocks off up front, you surely can't expect him to also track back.
I agree that fitness is the key but, whatever they do at Finch Farm, they certainly don't look fit compared to most Premier League teams. I have said before, they are too sheltered in these state-of-the-art training facilities. Get them road running and running up and down sand dunes to harden them up.
I remember a midweek game against Man City under Moyes when it was a fuckin' real bitter cold night. City came out wearing gloves, balaclava, all the works. Everton for the most part wore short sleeves. I remember Cahill going into Teves from the off.
We won that night and the headlines the next day were something like "Everton 2 Snoods 1". All about fitness, heart and winning personal battles all over the pitch for me.
79 Posted 13/11/2020 at 16:41:31
For the fee, if to be believed it is correct, Marcel could be pulling off another coup as per the Rodriquez deal.
80 Posted 15/11/2020 at 14:53:13
Tony Everan completely agree with your Buendia shout, I really like him and he works as hard as Richy, doesn't score many but creates and tracks, still young too. The goals could come from and even freer James (playing as a 10), Richy and DCL. We simply MUST bring in competition for RB, someone hardworking who can bomb on too. I would be looking to get money for Siggi and Bernard in Jan, sign an RM and an RB.
81 Posted 15/11/2020 at 19:17:45
82 Posted 16/11/2020 at 10:02:19
Isco has had one major muscle injury that kept him out for just over a month in August last year. He's not injury prone by any means. Just hasn't had much of a chance in a talented Madrid squad.
Compare that to the injury history of Jack 'Wheelchair' (2 pages) and you'll see how ridiculous that comparison is...
83 Posted 16/11/2020 at 10:42:34
He's a decent player of course but I just really don't think he's what we need. He's another number 10 with good technical skills but little work rate and no defensive contribution. He's also pretty slow.
He doesn't add alot of goals with 1 in every 5.7 games throughout his career. Our current slow number 10 (Sigurdsson) has 1 goal every 4.6 games, despite playing in worse teams. Their assist numbers are very similar.
Perhaps if we didn't already have Siggurddson and Rodriguez it may make some sense but we do.
It's not about getting good players it's about having a good team! And I really don't see where he fits in. By all means loan him and give it a shot but lets not land ourselves with another overpaid, slow number 10 on a long contract who we then cannot sell.
84 Posted 16/11/2020 at 15:45:03
Isco used to play on the wing quite a bit. But didn't he play deeper under Carlo Ancelotti? If Carlo keeps faith with the 433 that worked well in our 4 wins, then he could take the place of Gomes / Sigurdsson in the deep playmaker role. You are right to doubt his work rate, and I doubt he will cover as many yards as Sigurdsson, but does he need to? Sigurdsson covers a lot of yards by chasing back after he is out of position. They are ineffective and unnecessary. If he was smarter, he wouldn't need to do them.
I'm not sure about the 2020 version of Isco. Like James Rodriguez, no one has seen much of him in 2020. But like James Rodriguez, it would be the last throw of the dice for an aging player. At 28, he is far from finished and could recover his form. Playing for a club that would value him, and a manager he knows and loves. If Carlo Ancelotti thinks he's could enough, then I would bet on the 4 time champions league winner having enough left in the tank to be effective. As for a loan, I'd be terrified he did well for us and ended up at Man Utd or somewhere. I'd only loan if there was an obligation to buy at the end of the season, effectively pushing the transfer fee to next season for FFP purposes.
85 Posted 16/11/2020 at 20:13:17
You're right, he'd probably play in the Gomes / Sigurdsson role in the midfield 3 but I'm just not sure he has the work rate or physicality to succeed there. Against good teams you need ever one of those midfield 3 (and probably everyone else) to be busting a gut; and we already have Rodriguez who is a little dubious defensively.
Perhaps Isco would be useful against the deeper sitting, more limited teams. He's got great skill and quick feet that allow him to get out of tight spots and open up space, but what I've seen of him this season and last he just doesn't look as sharp as he used to. Perhaps that's due to not playing as much but he just looks to me like he may have lost a bit of something.
My worry is that, if Ancelotti does not work out, we are left with a bunch of 'star' players in their 30s on huge wages that we cannot sell. But then it does seem like Brands has offered more sensible shorter term contracts so far.
I don't think Man Utd would want Isco as Fernandes is similar but better and younger but I agree that a loan with an option (not obligation) makes sense in case he's able to get back to near his best.
I'd be looking for a different profile though. Either a much faster player who can beat his man and score goals to play wide or another central midfielder who can carry the ball and distribute well whilst also working very hard and making tackles; I actually really like Anguissa at Fulham, so will be interested to see him this weekend.
86 Posted 16/11/2020 at 21:44:56
Isco is much more talented than both, albeit Sigurdsson has (or did have) an excellent goal return when the team is built around his highly specialised position.
Would Isco make a difference without the dynamic presence on the wings? Probably a bit more than Sigurdsson and Gomes, yes (if he's fit). So probably worth a loan.
But the point is really that we need fast and relentless Premier League athletes to create the space for our few artists.
I suspect we won't buy one in January but I could see a random loan of, say, Rabbi Matondo from Schalke or Lemar from Atletico. Someone like that would make a difference, with or without Isco.
87 Posted 17/11/2020 at 10:09:12
Lemar is an interesting player. He looked very talented in France but has lost his way it seems in Spain. I hope we can do better than Matondo, who's never shown much to my eyes. I'd like to see Gordon given more opportunities but Ancelotti seems to have gone right off him.
A good goalscoring right-winger still high on the agenda; I still dream of Malcom but the likes of Doku, Diatta, Antony and Chukwueze are probably more gettable. Maybe Real Madrid might loan us Rodrygo instead of Isco!
88 Posted 17/11/2020 at 13:39:15
Matondo is fast but that might be it (Bolasie is probably a better player right now). Lemar is talented but hasn't been a hit. I could see us moving for Lemar on loan in Jan.
The others you mention might be more for this coming summer, although suspect Anthony and Doku will stay at Ajax and Rennes to mature a bit more before big moves.
89 Posted 19/11/2020 at 10:26:51
90 Posted 19/11/2020 at 14:49:40
91 Posted 19/11/2020 at 14:59:25
92 Posted 21/11/2020 at 00:13:37
93 Posted 21/11/2020 at 00:24:18
94 Posted 06/12/2020 at 19:39:31
On this basis, Sigurdson, Mina, Delph, Iwobi, Bernard, Tosun, Davies etc need to go and I believe they all should raise around £80 million.
We as a club need to send a cheque to Aston Villa for £90 million for Grealish now. The best player in the Premier League and someone we desperately need.
Coleman Keane Holgate Digne
Get Isco in and a right winger to mix it up, we have the cover for all these places.
Time for Everton to make a real statement of intent. Grealish is the missing piece.
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