Some excellent controlled play be them. Surprised me with how comfortable they all appear to be on the ball.

Another Machester club looking for a centre back in the summer?

Kevin de Bruyne though. He might be in histwighlight, but the best attacking midfielder we've seen in years.

2-2.

Entertainment all round.

What a turnaround! Pep no longer being out coached 🤣

Man City looking on top now.

Maybe they should have played with fear and 10 men behind the ball like David Sean Dyche-Moyes

Think I'll be hiding behind the sofa next weekend!

Let’s not go down that road,please.

it’s a bit bad manners to the opposing team though isn’t it?they might bust a blood vessel.

Country Roads is just bizarre. Salford spice.

Sat next to him once. He was a total gobshite.

Almost bad as Local Hero - that utter shit Newcastle come out to.

The one memorable time was Hibs fans and Leith after beating Rangers in the cup. Still watch that. Spine tingling.

"Exactly Liam. No fear. No respect."

No points... battered!

Might take the edge off it when VAR takes 10 minutes to decide to allow it or not though.

Goway! Never.

I see the Man Utd keeper has not just been dropped, but is not even in the squad for the match against Newcastle this afternoon.

I don't think we'd do it, but I could see an approach for Pickford in the summer.

It would take something out of this world for us to lose six games on the bounce, them to win six games on the bounce and overturn a 30+ goal difference in our favour.

Other results going our way with West Ham and big club Tottenham behind.

Is it wrong to want Newcastle to beat Manchester United? I'll let Rob answer that one.

So I think you know the answer to that one! 😁😁

Never liked Chelsea except for Di Matteo's run. Would either Skunks or Chelsea be preferred to Forest?

1. Postecoglou
2. Maresca
3. van Nistelrooy

Any others?

Nothing against any other teams vying to finish up there.

Then I'd like to see Forest, and of course Villa.

Watch Ipswich collapse.

My 4th son could possibly be in Liverpool on 25 May.

With the poo set to play their last game that day, is it advisable to even bother? Will the city be awash with red and so busy it might be best to swerve?

We're trying to figure out if he should just go to Dublin and skip Liverpool because of the hullabaloo that Liverpool will be in that day?

Thoughts?

So Boehly could keep him if they make the Champions League.

Don't bother!!

You'll avoid the influx of daytrippers and tourists.

Thank You, Rob and Danny!

There is nothing... NOTHING... I want more right now than to finish above Man United.

Hate 'em. Hate 'em.

Jamie spit the dog turncoat didn't get what he was desperate for, a Salah goal. Don't get me wrong, I know it's professional, but how can you change your colours to that degree? Even if I'd have played for them, I couldn't change. Alien to me.

Van Dijk kicks his own player in the head, who scored an own-goal. They still win courtesy of the Saint. I'm going to ignore them. It raises my blood pressure.

I can't stand Newcastle Utd.

Not sure about the sack, but I think Silva, Frank and McKenna will be in line for the Spurs job (along with a few foreign managers).

Iraola and McKenna will be in line for the Chelsea job (again, along with a few foreign managers).

That could mean quite a lot of change in the Premier League — with new untested managers in a number of different positions (and some decent managers stepping up to the challenge of much bigger clubs).

Not a bad time to have a sensible head like Moyes in charge.

I am not sure whether Pereira, Hurzeler or Potter will last the whole of next season either but I don't think they'll be sacked this summer.

There is also a chance we may yet see more change at City and even Arsenal and Man Utd (again).

I don't really care about who does or doesn't finish in Champions League places that much.

I'm not sure about the Ipswich manager. Feels like a Martinez like shout. An up-and-coming manager from another tier but, like Martinez, he's just been relegated.

Potter hasn't set the world alight since leaving Brighton.

A lot of these managers do when they leave the comfort zone of a well-run provincial club.

I give you Mike Walker.

If Ipswich can get a draw at Chelsea, then hopefully David Moyes can do better. Expecting 2 points... wanting 6.

Guardiola had all the money in the world and Wenger was simply an innovative genius.

The Premier League is a totally different animal, and you definitely need a lot more than fancy football if you want to succeed.

Tony #71, you wouldn't put Mourinho in that category? Granted he eventually descended into self-parody, but didn't he really change the psychological science of managing football?

And that was some fantastic work by Ugarte. Damn it.

Man Utd looking at 6s and 7s at best, but get an equaliser against the run of play.

We could get 13th. Half of me would confer that an achievement given the dark months of December and early January.

But the real me feels depressed. Not good enough, but let's look forward.

What was all the Keegan stuff before the match? Did I miss something?

An anti-Newcastle stance that a lot of TWers seem to share but, as I was a student in Newcastle for 3 years, I can tell you the people of the city are great, just like us Scousers.

I used to go watch even but they were crap, ended up bunking the train down to Hartlepool for a better game of footy.

Just the loons who think they're the biggest club in the world.

How much longer is that annoying Aussie going to be at Spuds?

A team with a GD of +11 should never, ever be in the bottom half, let alone 15th!

Something just doesn't add up with the goal differential for me.

Is what it is, but there's some anomaly at play.

It's like a sauna for the soul.

I'm just saying I'd prob stick with the Aussie until 5-7 games in next season were I Spurs. I also know they've had injuries.

Something is "right" there but just "off" if you take my meaning?

And the chairman won't spend to get that squad. Similar to Bielsa's Leeds, early RS under Klopp and early Newcastle under Howe. The cleverer coaches learn and adapt.

How braindead are some footballers? The Newcastle player (blonde top fool) is an idiot.

You're up 4-1 and you're standing off with an opposing player? STFU, maintain class, and get off the pitch, moron. If you can't control yourself, a simple, "Look at the scoreboard" will do to make your point.

Dumby.

Re Longstaff, he's a fine player but I think we already have one of him in the person of James Garner. And IMO our top priority for new signings should be pace, which Longstaff lacks.

He takes off his best player and goalscorer Garnacho on 56 minutes and leaves a clearly finished Eriksen on for 90.

Same goes for Amorin, especially all the money they paid to get him.

Pereira has earned another year. Admittedly he has only outperformed O'Niell by 4 points in the 16 matches compared to O'Niell in 2023-4 so he may be a favourite, especially with Cunha probably being sold.

Hürzeler has done better than the wonderman de Zerbi and he is only 32.

But other than the three I mentioned I can't see any others - at least before October.

Decent squad player, probably a bit underrated by many of us.

Whatever happened to the other Longstaff? Remember when they started games together and the pundits went wild.

Matty playing for Toronto FC now after Mansfield and Colchester. One of my favourite cities. Lucky fella

Brexit Jim has spent a fortune hiring, keeping and firing big names, while jaking shockingly poor short-term decisions himslf. Now he wants my tax to pay for his stadium.

Not sure about winning it back - Utd we're just giving it them.

The comparison to Martinez seems fair. Brendan Rodgers and Vincent Kompany too.

It's clear that McKenna can set up an attack - and adopt a style suitable for Champions League team. What's not clear is whether he can organise a defence - and cut out the awful kamikaze goals against with better quality players.

Controversial, I know, but I reckon Dyche would have kept that talented Ipswich side up through shutting up shop.

Maybe we'll end up with McKenna in a couple of years after he's inevitably sacked by Chelsea or whoever?

That said, he would win the Bundesliga if he went to Bayern. Our Vince is the Ringo Starr of European footy.

I would put Silva ahead of McKenna in the pecking order and I could see him at either Spurs or Chelsea next season.

I'm pretty sure that Poch would love to get back to the centre of things away from his current footy wilderness. I suspect that he would go back to Spuds if pig-headed Levy bit the bullet and offered him a competitive salary.

He'll have more cameras pointed at him next year than any other manager in the world. His choice of profile jobs after that no matter how the US perform.

I stopped blaming managers at Everton, within reason, several years ago. The conditions in which they've operated under set them up for failure.

Man Utd feel like that right now. A dysfunctional club with a dysfunctional team. A collection of players rather than a cohesive team.

I don't think the Tottenham manager will start next season and Chelsea's erratic owners could do anything. It will be an interesting summer. Will Pep stick or twist? What happens if Arteta's Arsenal start to show signs of falling short again? Will Thomas Frank decide to leave the comfort of Brentford for a new challenge? Will Marco Silva fancy another crack at the big time if offered? Which emerging European coaches fancy their chances in the Premier League?

All questions, no answers.

Teams coming from Mexico City to New York will probably have to fly via our new Greenland Vance International Airport.

15 seems quite a high threshold but is it that difficult to arrange for the seat to be filled? Supporters have to realise this is a changed world and they can't secure their ‘cherished' status simply by having enough money to secure a season ticket when there are thousands more who'd do the same and make sure the seat was never empty.

It was funny / weird to see the massed ranks of POTUS and his coven at UFC in Miami last night. They must have loved the bouts. Brazilians, Mexicans, an Australian and a scouser showing their dominance. I think the only US competitor was the one Paddy Pimblett completely dismantled in 3 rounds.

Nice spot on POTUS.

As for McKenna, he looks every inch a Spurs manager in waiting to me (not necessarily a compliment). But he does stand a chance with Chelsea (because they make weird managerial positions, not necessarily because he deserves it).

Had we stuck with Dyche to the end of the season, I'd have fancied McKenna for us. That's not to say I believe he would have performed better than Moyes – but because McKenna plays the sort of front-foot football associated with Champions League clubs. And I fancied that as a bit of a tonic. Moyes is probably a more sensible choice for the next couple of years though.

I think that the present fella might be one too many weird appointments for Chelsea RT. I have to agree that McKenna looks all Spursy and might get the usual 2 years there. I think that Spurs will move for Silva (who I would definitely take back when Moyes leaves us in 2026) who is ahead of McKenna by some distance in Premier League experience and is doing a great job down there by the river.

I'd like us to have Silva back too. Let's hope we are an attractive proposition then to him and he's still at Fulham.

Only 3 points separating 13th - 17th. The battle for supremacy of the also-rans is warming up. God, I feel sad typing that!!

Geography geek warning. I always thought Old Trafford was in the Borough of Trafford Park, not Salford or the city of Manchester??

Get a grip Danny you negative doom and gloom xxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxx

Silva, surely, a much more attractive proposition for them at present?

I'll be so glad when this season is over and we can reset. Again, but this time there is a sense of genuine optimism.

I'm also glad that I'm visiting Germany the weekend of the last match. It means I won't get the opportunity to walk the 190 odd steps at St James' Park, but also that I can stay away from visiting the family and be subject to Satanic celebrations.

Wow! 11th in Division-2

Hamburg, Hertha Berlin, Cologne, Schalke, Nürnberg, Hannover.

Schalke average around 60 thousand fans even in lower division. Tickets like gold dust.

They aren't mathematically out of the woods yet from the unthinkable prospect of dropping to the 3rd tier of German football and are sat 11th in Bundesliga 2. They are probably a win away from securing their 3rd season in the second league after a good "Ruckrunde" second half of the season after the winter break.

Hopefully they too can reset in the summer and push on for promotion. The Konigsblauen (Royal Blues) attract over 60,000 per week and belong in the Bundesliga.

Although I didn't pick Everton, I do choose them don't I?!!

Did they get a points deduction or penalty relegation?

Nurse, nurse? Help?

Good to see in one so middle-aged, mate!

It's the Borough of Trafford.

Trafford Park is also within the Borough.

Manuel Neuer, Kehrer who went to PSG, Howedes, who went to Juventus, Sane of Man City fame (his two brothers were also at the academy), Julian Draxler, Jens Lehmann, Ozil. Gundogan spent time there. The list goes on and a lot are from the local area.

It's often said that the purpose of an academy is to produce players for the first team or make money. They went to far the other way, selling off just about anyone decent to stave off financial difficulties, which almost bankrupt them.

Named after the northern district in their home city Gelsenkirchen and living in the shadow of their more successful neighbours, Dortmund (Klopp links, sing YNWA) and years of mismanagement. Sound familiar?!!

Middle-aged? He was teenage Neil stood next to me at Anfield!

Is what Davey Moyes should have said...

Not the "Nurse, nurse" bit mind.

Anyway, the blues were brilliant long may it continue and the teams around us continue to piss about.

I don't think this was always the case with Jose Mouriniho. I thought he could get his team to play in many different ways and was a lot more pragmatic than both Guardiola and Wenger.

There are other pragmatic examples over the years. George Graham's Arsenal, that gave rise to the "1-0 to the Arsenal" chant. Not the easiest on the eye, but they won.

And even Kendall showed pragmatism the season we had Lineker and changed our style to play to his strengths.

I wonder where we would have been if Sean Dyche had not been ushered out? Would we will still be in the mix based on his average points per game?

Using www.footballwebpages.co.uk, their predicted final table would read as follows, (points on the board today)

16. Wolverhampton Wanderers 42 pts (35)
17. Everton 29 pts (38)
18. Ipswich Town 24 pts (21)
19. Leicester City 21 pts (18)
20. Southampton 10 pts (10)

Are there any Dyche fanatics still out in Toffee Lands, I wonder?

I'm not sure there were many "Dyche fanatics", well I don't know any. Respect for the last two seasons under difficult circumstances, but he lost us and the players as well as his own will as the first half of this season gradually deteriorated. Forgetting the results, it was the performances that left me numb.

So frustrating to be 2-0 up at home to Bournemouth with 5 mins to go having battered them and losing 3-2. Equally losing 1-0 at Southampton.

With those 6 extra points and sitting 12th and a 7 point gap to relegation, would Dyche have remained our manager?

Sometimes you have to be grateful when bad things happen.

Phil, aside from the last day survival, we've not had too much joy out of Bournemouth. The 2 trips to the Vitality in 4 days to be defeated twice was pretty demoralising.

"Are there any Dyche fanatics still out in Toffee Lands, I wonder?"

No, Trevor, and I don't think there ever were any at all. Bit of a daft question to end a post with, to be honest. Are you trying to score a point or something? There are more dodos around here than, erm, "Dyche fanatics".

I like to watch Fulham because I want Silva to do very well. I also want Frank Lampard to do very well and Hull - Coventry might be the better match to watch, mate.

I think that Dyche showed his full credentials in managing our club, maybe he possibly overstated them because the squad was actually better than he managed to make it look?

I rate him as possibly the worst manager that I have seen given a job in the Premier League and that he had proven that in every job that he was given.

I think it was fair to say that he actually gave up trying in the Everton job too – which was unheard of in management? He had support among Everton supporters though? Please tell me I'm wrong on that.

How could we ever in a million years have hired Koeman, Benitez or Lampard when my local binman was available?

We as fans possibly forced all of the changes and accepted the replacements.

They praised Dyche for keeping us up… forgetting that Dyche kept us up after Dyche created one of the worst situations in our history from that massive three-month winless streak. Dyche saved us from Dyche.

So, there we no "fanatics" to be seen anywhere Martin – a silly concept – but often grudging gratitude and respect.

I do not feel the need to have gratitude to Dyche. Not one drop. Don't get me wrong, I said "Well done" when he did something well. But all the way through his too-long tenure, I felt embarrassed to have him in our hot seat.

Embarrassed… Those hideous pressers.

Keeping an eye on both matches tonight.

I can't track down the video on Youtube where Super Kev is having a real go at some shitty reds who were mocking him the day after we lost to them. I'm certain that "kopites are gobshite" was one of the things he was shouting at them.

RIP

I would love Silva to follow Moyes.

I would love him to come to the Dock next season with Coventry. He would get a good reception.

Palace 49pts
Everton 47pts
Man U 46
West Ham 42
Ipswich 25

Always the optimist, of course.