Goodison Park could become the new home for Everton's women

If Goodison were to still be used for matches, then maybe U21, etc. could also use the facility. Interesting idea, I suppose TFG will be reviewing absolutely everything as they shape the future of the Club in the way they see fit.

A plaintive wailing sound was heard, somewhere in the corner between the Gwladys Street and Bullens Road stands. From an erie, rotund, rather ghost-like figure…

"But what about the Safety Certificate?"

Good idea for the womens but especially the u21's. I'm sure lots of locals fans would go and support local pubs etc. if they are still in business by then.

I can't stand women's football but anything that would stop Goodison being demolished is a great idea.

Peter yes agreed. v fed up with reading headlines like 'Chelsea in surprise win away at Everton' before realising it's the womens' football given as a headline, when it's not in any way headline news.

I wonder if the Fredkins could do a Chelsea and sell Goodison park to one of their partner companies.

Goodison should be demolished. Once it is no longer our home it needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth rather than allowed to decay into some kind of backstreet oddity for delinquents to vandalize.

I don't think it would be a good venue for the women's team as nothing sucks the life out of a home team more than playing in front of 38,000 empty seats. If the owners want to invest in the women's team then build a custom stadium suitable for their fan base but allowing for growth so 5,000 seater or something.

I hope the club go ahead with the plan/s already in place for the demolition and re purposing.

What kind of attendances do they get:
a) at Walton Hall Park (ever had full capacity?)
b) when they had played at Goodison?

Gerry,

Their last two home games v Villa and Leicester, the attendance was 900 and 700 respectively. In Goodison they'd be outnumbered by groundstaff etc.

Anyone have an idea of the annual running costs of Goodison?

Probably a lot less than it’s going to cost ripping Goodison apart Barry?

I think go ahead with the demolition.

The female team, U21s and U18s would barely make a scratch on the near 40,000 capacity. It would be likely that only the Paddock, Park End, Enclosure and front of the lower Gwladys Street would be open.

Repeat warning, as I've been harping on about this as much as I have about a monorail and other transport links over the last few years.

Build a small single story mini Goodison down towards the Gwladys Street. Probably inline with where the current Main Stand meets St Luke's. Let's say a 4,000 seater.

I'm no architect, but if we imagine the footprint no longer existing of the current stands, there is room to do this and still leave space for housing development towards the Park End.

I don't know how far confirmed the Goodison Legacy Project is, but if there is still scope for reconsidering, I personally would look at this, because then, we leave a footballing legacy at Goodison Park.

Danny, I like the idea of a smaller purpose-built Goodison Park, but the capacity would need to be at least double 4,000 and probably higher if TFG did pour a decent amount of money into improving the Evertonesses and their facilities (maybe even a ladies' bog, Kevin Molloy).

Wouldn't it be lovely if the good doctor's collection was housed next door with other similarly thoughtful additions?

As others have said, even if all 900 were in one stand it still would look pathetic. Maintenance costs and saftely for such an old run down stadium will not be worth it. Time to let it go, clinging on to the past has already damaged the club.

Everton Football club have a new home.

Sell it to a developer, must be worth a few quid.

Maybe Paul F, on the higher capacity, and the owners probably wanting to see a return of investment.

I'm just always conscious of making sure there is an atmosphere in any stadium. Build big and there may be a decent crowd, but the ground looks half empty and it impacts the atmosphere.

That's why I'm not one to get excited over the near 53,000 capacity of Bramley Moore. I'd rather see a packed stadium than empty seats.

I don't know the UK's stance on safe standing in terms of law and legislation, but I know of clubs on the continent, with similar sized stadiums, who, with safe standing, can increase to over 60,000 for league matches. I've no idea how that works, so don't ask, but it does!!

I’m assuming that IF this goes ahead it will be a drastically remodelled and scale downed version of Goodison Park. There’s no way those huges stands are going to remain given that they are already crumbling.
He who should not be named was probably exaggerating when he spoke of failing safety tests ar the time but the time that’s an actuality must be close.

Paul # 17……….what happened to the old St. Helens rugby ground when they moved to The Wankado Stadium, or whatever it’s called?

Wankado??? Why you….i oughta…
Grrrr shut your pie hole you!
It’s “posh” housing now.
“Posh” is St Helens for “new and not terraced”
UTFT and NWOTS!

Mark, I was being polite there…….I normally say St. Bellends! 😂😂😂

So "new" equates to having a garden and inside toilets Mark?!!!

I think the term being used for the developments at Goodison is "affordable" housing. God knows what that means.

I don't know what's happened to the old Rugby League stadiums. Widnes done theirs out years ago. It's actually quite smart.

Our reserves and female teams played there for a while before changing to Southport and Walton Hall Park respectively, although most of the U21s and U18s matches I've watched lately (not many), tend to be at Finch Farm.

Rob Halligan and polite aren’t often seen in the same post…
See you soon I hope.

On that note I’m trying to get two tickets for the West Ham (or Arsenal) game to take my son Joe to his last game at Goodison.
Official members resale site has them sold out but I see hundreds on tour sites. I’ve written to the club to ask if they are looking into this.
BUT are there any good hearted Blues out there who cant make either game and could help me out please??
UTFT

Danny, an inside toilet in St Bellends is normally an old tin bucket, usually the one that was used in the outside “Privy”. 🤣🤣🤣

I thought this was a brilliant idea, for both the Club and the neighbourhood. Clearly the Stadium would have to be scaled down and remodelled with space provided for community facilities, perhaps residential units in the form of flats. All this would be very expensive and I am not sure there would be anybody willing to foot the bill. However, it's nice to dream and what a legacy we would be leaving.

A brilliant idea. I am a season ticket holder for the Women's team and started going to Goodison in our Championship Season of 1962-63.

Keeping Goodison as a football stadium is something that should be welcomed by all Everton fans.

Anthony Gordon sent off for violent conduct, so a 3-match ban, meaning he will miss the Carabao Cup Final……..Shame! 😂😂

Gordon most definitely is a moron

Straight red, Colin, so it can be appealed, but I doubt very much any appeal would be successful.

Nah Rob

If he gets away with that the games more bent than we thought...Fuck

Ace, and love that the moron will miss the final, but we need the skunks to win it. And 10 each now, Lumptey Lamptey did not need to make that challenge. What a strike that was

A quite a bonkers few minutes there…

Schar well offside!

Why did Schar turn into Ian Wright on that VAR reconstruction??

And the Numpty Lampty... another tit! Glad we missed out on him.

Get in!

The barcodes shouldn’t be too down.

They have the League Cup Final to look forward to losing soon.

Skunk maggots out! Seventy years and counting!

And 98 years since they won the league.

As you say Rob, big club my arse!

A Fulham win at Man Utd will go down just fine. 🍺🍺🍺

98 years since they won the league, Steve…..fuck me, there won’t be a person alive who will remember that. And they think they are bigger than us. 😂😂😂😂

Laurel and Hardy made their first film together in 1927 - the same year as Newcastle last won the league.

They think they are bigger than everyone Rob. Almost as entitled as the entitled without much to back it up.

We beat Bournemouth we could have won this cup.

By the way, LL has a PL week thread on Evertonia in the beautiful game forum.

I would suggest that it wouldn't be cost effective for Goodison, in any form resembling it's current state, to be used for under-21's or the women's team.

Having said that, MLB hosted a regular season game at an historic stadium last year (Rickwood Field) and it looked great. I'd love it if Goodison could be retained in some form as a football stadium, I just can't see it happening, unfortunately.

Goodison will be retained for the women's team. And the new monorail service to Bramley-Moore Dock from the town centre will have a spur taking supporters up through Kirkdale to Goodison for these games.

The monorail will connect with the new ferry terminal at the dock for supporters from over the water. Talk of helicopter landing pads in Stanley Park is well wide of the mark though.

All we need is the Arteta money.

I hope so, Alan, as I've been boring everyone with my suggestion of a monorail for years!! I'd extend it running from Brunswick to Sandhills stations. That way it takes in places like the Albert Dock, the back of Liverpool One, the Pier Head, Business district, hotels and Bramley-Moore Dock. For visitors to the city

I know our thoughts are logistics for the new stadium, but anything we do has to benefit the city of Liverpool as well. And colour them Royal blue, with blue tinted windows. The Goodison Line!!

On the subject, I never understood why the city didn't put one in between South Parkway and the airport, stopping at the retail park and hotels that have sprung up.

I know there are buses and I'm not anti-bus, but presentationally, much better for visitors. It works well at Dusseldorf airport for those who have flown to and from there.

Anyway, enough of my latest monorail talk. I'm beginning to sound monologue on the topic!!

How on earth could Goodison be maintained economically in any shape or form? Despite the media hype, women's football isn't that well followed.

Alan, #48, if only you'd included the helipad, I might have believed you!!!!

I don't think this will happen, the maintenance costs and the work on an aging structure ? these will only be harder to implement and worse over time.

What may happen is the pitch being left in place with a smaller stand area put in place, but again the costs ?

Also the previous Everton legacy on the site of Goodison would that be scrapped.

Personally and a great idea if possible, would be for TFG to purchase Nelson dock, extend Evertons footprint and build a smaller stadium on it for the ladies, this could also be used by the first team for warms etc.

Paul #15, I've long banged on about using Goodison to house The Everton Collection of Dr. France as a living museum that football fans from around the world can come to view, in the home of the city's originals

Isn't it somewhere in St. Georges Hall at the moment? And can it be viewed by the general public?

Martin #51, purchasing Nelson's Dock, etc is going to be just as expensive as maintaining Goodison, probably more so.

That's an interesting point Eric. There are pros and cons to both options for Dr David's collection there. Goodison for the historical connection, but St George's Hall for advertising the Everton brand in the city.

I'll say it for the last time. Flatten Goodison and build a small stadium down one end of the ground if feasible.

Martin, the last detail I read on the Goodison Legacy Project was that, under current plans, only the centre circle will be preserved. But, to be honest, I've not heard a lot recently.

I can completely understand TFG revisiting all previous plans as the Moshiri years were not short of a poor decision or several.
The club need to look longer term and keeping ownership of Goodison may prove beneficial in ways we can't yet imagine.
It may also make sense to have other Everton teams (womens, youth) playing nearer the fan base which may quickly increase average attendances etc.
Local schools, youth and community clubs could be given free tickets to further boost attendance.
The one thing I'm sure of is more money and bigger commercial deals will come into the women's game and wouldn't it be good to be able to take advantage of them.
Whilst I understand some fans not being particularly interested in the women's game, and I include myself in that, ignoring it or hating it makes no sense, especially if it can benefit the club and community.

A venue for the junior and women’s teams is needed anyway, and all will come at some sort of cost.
So why not make use of a scaled down Goodison?
Those quoting the current attendances for the women’s games do realise those will rise if the women’s game continues to grow and if the ladies team can become property competitive again, don’t they.
Don’t want to participate, simply stay away.
Not for supporters to quibble about what the club wants to do with its assets / how it wants to grow the various ‘limbs’ unless they are convinced it will somehow impact the development/ competitiveness of the men’s team.

As it stands, there is no way the current layout of Goodison can be utilized cost effectively and in the main the only conceivable way is to utilize the Park end stand and offices and demolish the other three, building a low level seating around the pitch, probably reorientated.

Other than that, flatten it..

The women's game and crowds has improved dramatically over the last few years and the new American owners will be well aware of future possibilities given the games popularity in their poor benighted country from which they come. It's not as though Goodison hasn't had massive women's games in the past until the misogynist old guard got their way.