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Arsenal's Ben White hobbles off the pitch after doing his knee in during the Premier League match at West Ham United in May.
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Please note—and it’s frightening that we even have to have this disclaimer: This is a rumours page and features just that—rumours; stories we have read, heard, or that have been passed on to us by various clickbait merchants. Take with a massive pinch of Halite.

We are officially into Week 2 of the close season, and on the brink of imminent transfers if the clamour of clickbait sites is anything to go by, with David Moyes not just looking for a right-back and a striker — he’s looking to replace the entire matchday squad!

The biggest talking point on the forums this week isn't even a player we own. Anthony Gordon’s astronomical £70M move from Newcastle to Barcelona has sent shockwaves through the fanbase, mostly because we are all frantically trying to calculate the exact percentage of the sell-on clause. While the accounts department at the Hill Dickinson Stadium figures out if that 15% profit kickback buys us a new striker or just pays the electricity bill for the new ground, the media has happily spent the hypothetical windfall for us.

Rather than trying to track each and every spurious linkage, as we did last year, here is our look at just a handful of the latest names being kicked around the floor of the Rumour Mill:

The Heavyweight Striker Hunt: Artem Dovbyk & Jhon Durán

With the Beto experiment failing to set the Everton world alight, the Rumour Mill has dictated that Everton need a physical focal point, upfront and personal, to lead the line. Accordingly, we are locked in a four-way battle with West Ham, Leeds, and Sunderland for Roma’s Artem Dovbyk, who is allegedly surplus to requirements under Gian Piero Gasperini. If that falls through, the fallback option is reportedly Fenerbahçe’s Jhon Durán.

Dovbyk was a €40M player not that long ago; are we genuinely expecting Roma to hand him over on a budget loan because of the TFG link and Moyes needing to have a big lad up top? As for Durán, he’s been linked with a move back to England every 6 months since leaving Aston Villa. This smells like agents using Everton's historical need for a goalscorer to flush out actual bids from elsewhere.

The Defensive Overhaul: Ben White & Enzo Boyomo

With Seamus Coleman’s contract expiring and the backline needing a refresh, the clickbait merchants have gone big. The headline grabber is a speculative report that Everton are monitoring Arsenal’s Ben White to solve our perennial right-back dilemma. Meanwhile, Sport Witness claims we are actively scouting Osasuna’s 24-year-old Cameroon international centre-back Enzo Boyomo, who has a €25M release clause. 

Ben White? You cannot be serious! He was a regular starter for a team consistently fighting at the absolute top of the table. Even with The Friedkin Group's backing, the idea of him trading Champions League football for a rebuilding project on the banks of the Mersey seems laughable... except for the fact that he did his knee in and missed the last part of the season, suggesting a cut-price deal could well be on the cards. 

Boyomo is slightly more realistic, but the reports state Brighton and Sunderland are also willing to trigger the clause. If it comes down to a bidding war for an unproven La Liga defender, expect the all-seeing, all-knowing recruitment team to say "Thanks, but no thanks."

The Moyes Boys Out Of Favour: Tomáš Souček & Nathan Aké

A new angle has emerged this week focusing on players facing uncertain futures at their current clubs. There are rumblings that Moyes is keen on a reunion with West Ham’s Tomáš Souček to add some much-needed steel and late-box-entry goals to the midfield. Concurrently, reports out of Manchester suggest Nathan Aké is assessing his options at City, with Everton listed alongside Bournemouth as an "interested party."

Souček is the quintessential Moyes player — honest, hardworking, and great in the air. But at this stage of the rebuild, do we really want to be buying West Ham’s aging transition-era remnants?

As for Aké, he’s a left-sided centre-back who can cover full-back. While he’d be a brilliant addition, Bournemouth are reportedly positioning themselves as the frontrunners to bring him back to the South Coast. We won't be breaking the wage structure for Manchester City's squad rotation players anymore.

The Continental Wildcard: Diego Leite

Finally, Union Berlin’s 27-year-old Portuguese defender Diego Leite has been tossed into the Rumour Mill. The clickbait sites claim Everton are in a three-way battle that includes a massive contract offer from the Saudi Pro League to land the Bundesliga man in a bargain summer deal.

Whenever you see "Everton face Saudi battle", you can safely close the tab. If the player is looking for one final, massive payday in the desert, he isn't going to choose a disciplined Premier League wage structure and rigid team discipline under David Moyes.

The Gordon sell-on fee seems to have given the tabloids a convenient excuse to link us with higher-tier talent this week, but the reality is likely to be far more mundane. Until the transfer window officially opens on 15 June, we should perhaps remain flegmatically unmoved by these tantalising suggestions.

 

Read more - The Rumour Mill — Close Season Week 1

 

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John Collins
1 Posted 01/06/2026 at 13:29:02
If you were a young, rated player coming through, and looking to take the next step up the ladder, would you sign for Moyes?
Ian Bennett
2 Posted 01/06/2026 at 13:40:01
I've heard Diouf from West Ham as a left-back now from a couple. Big, strong and fast left-back. He would get past the left-wing overlap.

Can be a bit clumsy on the touch and a ball watcher. More Doucoure than Baines. Sensible price after one season in the Premier League.

Not my cup of tea, but an upgrade on Mykolenko.
John Collins
3 Posted 01/06/2026 at 13:43:35
Ian,

Diouf has the best delivery from a left-back I saw last season. You're right: he ball watches on occasion... but a young player.
Paul Hewitt
4 Posted 01/06/2026 at 13:55:26
Diouf is great at getting forward, but terrible at defending.

For a defender, that's not good. Stay well clear.
John Collins
5 Posted 01/06/2026 at 14:04:59
He won't be coming here, regardless, Paul.

Not a Moyes-style player. Only 21 though, mate.
Mal van Schaick
6 Posted 01/06/2026 at 14:49:32
I don't mind Soucek on a 2-year deal and after that it's up to the scouts and who is available. I don't want cast-offs Ake or Stones. Wan Bassaka may be a decent signing.

I like Mane at Wolves, a midfielder who we can mentor.
Dave Lynch
7 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:01:24
Here we go... the merry-go-round, how the fuck Moyes is going to find time to coach the team, check on possibilities and sanction outgoings is beyond me, as he's got a summer job commentating on the World Cup.

I await his early season excuses if he's still here.
Martin Berry
8 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:07:42
I think before some posters get wound up over Tomas Soucek you have to see his possibilities in the current Everton squad.

Soucek is a defensive midfielder, this may be used as an option to play in Gueye's role. He additionally is a real aerial threat on crosses and score goals!

He may also be a very shrewd move for Everton, not costing a fortune but doing a very important job in the team.
John Collins
9 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:10:33
He's a defensive midfielder who can't run, Martin.
Dave Lynch
10 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:32:28
At 31, Soucek's legs have gone... but Moyes won't worry about that.

He can sub him after 75 mins for one of the other defensive-minded, over-the-hill journeyman he's going to buy on his way to proving that mediocrity is the new success.
Paul Kossoff
11 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:52:42
Ben White, "Doing his knee in."

You mean medial knee ligament injury (MCL)?

You are usually so spot on with the technicals, Michael.😀
Jim Bennings
12 Posted 01/06/2026 at 15:53:40
And since the season has ended over a week ago now, have we heard sweet FA from TFG?

Have we shite!
Ajay Gopal
13 Posted 01/06/2026 at 16:45:11
Martin (8),

Soucek may be a decent, low-cost, squad-filling option, but the biggest problem I have with his possible acquisition is that it would stifle the development of our younger central midfielders like Armstrong, Rohl and Iroegbunam.
Jay Harris
14 Posted 01/06/2026 at 16:55:17
Ake would be a good squad acquisition, versatile and quick with Premier League experience. Stones, Ben White, Soucek etc would be a backward step.

We need pace, ability, and goalscoring potential in those we bring in, even defenders. I wouldn't mind a tilt at Richarlison and Bowen but only a few of the names we are rumored with fill me with any optimism...

And then we have to get them over the line something Everton fail to do consistently despite a so called "heavyweight recruitment team".
Rob Halligan
15 Posted 01/06/2026 at 16:59:44
Hearing from a source that Wan-Bissaka is a done deal @ £10M.

Though I can't see anything on any site on this.
Ian Bennett
16 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:10:54
I think you can be taught how to defend.

You can't be taught pace, Paul.
Andrew Ellams
17 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:10:54
Yes to Bowen (can't see it though), no to Richarlison.

Wan-Bissaka doesn't fill me with glee but I guess he's a step up on what we've got at least. Although I did see a rumour linking him to Villa.
Christy Ring
18 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:12:54
Rob #15 I'd definitely take Wan-Bissaka, some may complain that he's not good going forward,

He has pace and can definitely defend, isn't that the No 1 job for a fullback?
John Collins
19 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:16:58
Ian,

A coach's statement from many moons ago. Still true to this day
Stu Darlington
20 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:30:07
Ake and Stones are miles better than anything we have at the moment. Don't think either will come but we definitely need a massive upgrade here.

I'll be surprised if we get a full season out of Branthwaite, given his history so far.
Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 01/06/2026 at 17:37:44
Wan-Bissaka sounds like a little upgrade on Tony Hibbert.
Paul Clements
22 Posted 01/06/2026 at 18:00:54
Quiet easy to work out who won't be coming in and that's anyone with real pace.

When you've got George sat on the bench when pace was exactly what was needed in the last 7 or 8 games, it's almost like Moyes is against that kind of thing.

Every year that passes, we watch clubs sign pace and power but we as a club seem to think that's not the way.

Soucek sounds about right and a couple of pedestrian full-backs... I'm sick to the back teeth of the same approach every year.
Billy Shears
23 Posted 01/06/2026 at 19:46:12
All the usual names; I see old, slow, always injured players.

We never look at lower league players... what about Fisher from Norwich! Or Thomas from Stoke! Or even Ballard from Orient! (top goal scorer in his league).

Only the left-back from West Ham looks useful, but would Moyes play him as he is only a youngster?!
Billy Shears
24 Posted 01/06/2026 at 19:54:14
There's even talk on YouTube sites that Jack Harrison could come back to us.

We simply never learn, do we!!!

50 points next season and a 13th place -- no trophies neither... naturally!!!
Jim Bennings
25 Posted 01/06/2026 at 20:29:26
Billy

Right now, I'd say 50 points is quite ambitious given that many of the squad will be a season older, the younger element still not ready... blah, blah, blah.

More like 45 I'd say, with the usual bunch of home defeats and around 6 or 7 wins at Hill Dickinson Stadium.

No assurance next season either that our away form will yield 7 victories -- the form on the road dipped in the last 2 months of the season.
Steve Dowdeswell
26 Posted 01/06/2026 at 21:44:36
Did I read earlier Milner has retired?

Sounds like he would be the perfect fit for Moyes...
Danny Baily
27 Posted 01/06/2026 at 21:54:12
Wan-Bissaka would be a great signing.

Good age, Premier League experience, and some height to boot (an essential for a Moyes full-back).
Merle Urquart
28 Posted 01/06/2026 at 22:22:16
Having been blown out again for a season ticket for my lad and l think its time for me to stop all things Everton until the most depressing manager in the history of fucking football...the face of our club, the image we globally project is fucked off...l predict October...TTFN
Derek Thomas
29 Posted 01/06/2026 at 22:35:52
Jay @14;

Ake is 31, we need the 24-year-old version... of anybody, not just him. It'll be like Father Ted's walking football team soon...

Ake, Stones, Soucek, Grealish, Barney McGru, Cuthbert, Dibble & Grub.
Old Uncle Tom Cobbley and all.
Kevin Molloy
30 Posted 01/06/2026 at 23:27:52
Is there only Wan-Bissaka?
Paul Kossoff
31 Posted 01/06/2026 at 00:36:32
Michael, The photovoltaic arrays at the Hill Dickinson Stadium (Everton stadium are projected to generate approximately 1.5 million kWh of electricity annually. This amount of renewable power is roughly equivalent to the annual energy needs of about 500 typical UK households.

Designed as a key component of the stadium's broader net-zero carbon strategy, the solar array spans the roof of the stadium's South Stand to maximize the UK's solar irradiance. Because stadium usage fluctuates, the integration of these panels alongside stadium scale battery storage allows the venue to capture and intelligently release power during peak operations, depending on the season and light conditions.

Scaling this up to a commercial footprint like that seen at the waterfront arena significantly offsets the venue's daytime use of Everton's new stadium, installation complete as..24 Jul 2024. My birthday actually,😀 so I think we are okay with the electricity bills.
Don Alexander
32 Posted 02/06/2026 at 02:18:37
Due regards to Gilbert O'Sullivan:

Oh, in a little while from now
If I'm not feeling any less sour
I sort of promise myself
To treat myself
And visit a nearby tower

And climbing to the top
Will throw myself off
In an effort to
Make it clear to whoever,
What it's like when you are shattered

Left standing in the Prem, in a league
Where people're saying
"My God, that's tough
Moyes fucked them up again
Despite them all complaining

We may as well go home"
As I did on my own
Trophyless, again, naturally

To think that in our hey-day
I was cheerful, bright and gay
Looking forward to
Well, who wouldn't do,
The success my club was about to play

But as if to knock me down
Kenwright came around
And without so much
As a mere touch
Cut us all into little pieces - sold out

Leaving me to doubt
God in Himself with all His mercy
Oh, if He really does exist
Why did Kenwright desert me?

In my hour of need?
I truly am indeed
Winless again, naturally

Winless again, naturally
Now looking back over the years
And what ever else that appears
I remember I cried
When my old team vied
And won trophies with few fears

But now seventy-one years old
My Toffee-self, God rest my soul
Cannot understand
Why the only man
Who destroyed us so, is to some still venerated

Leaving us to start
With an ethos so badly broken
Despite encouragement from me
No words are ever spoken

By Freidkin any day
Whilst I cry and cry all day
Trophyless again, naturally
Trophyless again, naturally.
Derek Thomas
33 Posted 02/06/2026 at 03:56:27
Don; William McGonagall himself would doff his cap to that. It's up there with Baldricks WW1 epic - Boom, Boom, Boom.

DGYDJU
Laurie Hartley
34 Posted 02/06/2026 at 05:18:08
Danny # 27 - I agree Wan Bissaka would be a good signing.
Brendan McLaughlin
35 Posted 02/06/2026 at 06:52:16
Don #32

When you say/sing... "I was cheerful, bright and gay"

Are you "coming out" on ToffeeWeb?
Paul Griffiths
36 Posted 02/06/2026 at 07:25:53
Ah Brendan, you're better than that mate. Don lives in the same solid and sober Presbyterian town as Moyes and Gordon Lee RIP and there is only one gay in the village and he's from Sc**thorpe via Barrow.
Brendan McLaughlin
37 Posted 02/06/2026 at 07:42:43
Fair cop Paul #36

Frankly I was more taken aback by the idea of Don once being cheerful and bright
Mark Murphy
38 Posted 02/06/2026 at 07:47:31
What happened to our interest in Parrot?
Si Cooper
39 Posted 02/06/2026 at 08:12:16
“He has pace and can definitely defend, isn't that the No 1 job for a fullback?”

Mmmm… I’d still prefer a fullback who can defend but who also adds significantly more than I think Wan-Bissaka would when we are attacking. Are there none of those around?

Probably not in the tried and trusted and mid-twenties category, but perhaps there are some at Championship level who could make the grade.

Saw a rumour about Tristan Crama who has apparently just had a very good season with Millwall, but know nothing about him personally.

Wan-Bissaka has also been labelled as a player whose ‘rating’ has dropped a lot during the last year. That may not be solely his fault but I think anyone who thinks he is guaranteed rock steady may just be remembering the promise he once showed.
Paul Griffiths
40 Posted 02/06/2026 at 08:25:09
Brendan great response mate
Paul Griffiths
41 Posted 02/06/2026 at 08:27:03
Agree Mark - 38.
Laurie Hartley
42 Posted 02/06/2026 at 08:30:02
Si # 39 - I think he is capable of getting forward. I have always rated him. At 28 years old and a cost of $20M, I think he would be good value'. I love a YouTube link:

Link
Lee Courtliff
43 Posted 02/06/2026 at 09:35:46
Thank you for calling it the Close Season and not the Off Season. Another Americanism that has crept into our game (no offence to Mike or any of the other American fans we have).
Dave Abrahams
44 Posted 02/06/2026 at 09:37:31
Don (32), Brilliant Don.

Cole Porter couldn't have put it better and it's nice that you didn't call that twat all the names under the sun — although I enjoyed it when you did.
Kevin Molloy
45 Posted 02/06/2026 at 10:45:35
If this is true, it will tell us an awful lot about the new regime. We'll have waited 3 years, put in our new recruitment team, new backers, all so that we can buy a 28-year-old on top wages for £10M?

It shows we're just trying to get by, that we haven't got much money, and we don't have a long-term plan.

No serious team would be in for Wan-Bissaka, and by 'serious', I mean Brentford, Bournemouth or Brighton.
Ian Bennett
46 Posted 02/06/2026 at 12:55:55
A young full back that we are being linked with, is obviously going to have flaws to his game.

If he has pace, is good going forward, but needs to improve his defensive game, then that appears a better option than Mykolenko & Co.

We arent signing Maldini, just someone that doesn't need 3 goes at crossing the ball, and all equally as bad as the first.
Jay Harris
47 Posted 02/06/2026 at 15:31:34
Derek #29,

Ake hasn't played much over the last few seasons and is therefore fresher than most Premier League centre-backs and still has a turn of pace and can also play left-back. Note, I said squad rather than regular.

Him and Wan-Bissaka would certainly improve our defensive unit.
Raymond Fox
48 Posted 02/06/2026 at 15:47:46
That would be no surprise, Brian, there's bound to be inquiries for him.

This is one of the things that holds us back, as soon as we find a player who is a notch above our norm, they leave for clubs that are more recently successful.
Michael Kenrick
49 Posted 02/06/2026 at 19:38:43
Perhaps I should have added Hayden Hackney to this week's hot picks?

No, I think the expression I heard was "hot take"? Perhaps only In Yankeeland.

Gonna have to be nice to them next week and beyond... or they might not let me watch the Trump World Cup.
Mike Hayes
50 Posted 02/06/2026 at 19:46:00
Apparently, we are after Hackney from Boro, Ndiaye turned down 3 offers of a contract, and Grealish being another loan deal 💙

Paul Tait going as well. 💙
Andrew Ellams
51 Posted 02/06/2026 at 20:25:08
David Ormstein reckons Hackney prefers us over Man Utd.
Mike Gaynes
52 Posted 02/06/2026 at 20:57:53
Rugby League Magic Weekend at Hill Dickinson Stadium has already sold a record 75k tickets, and it's still a month before the festival.

At £50 a ticket, that's nearly £4M in revenue that will be added to our PSR/SCR calculations for the 2027 transfer windows. And most tickets cost more.

Make that money, Angus. Pile it up.
Derek Knox
53 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:08:51
Still waiting for the best news yet, Moyes has left the Club.

Thanks for getting us boringly safe -- he is good at that. Pity for the young hopefuls and talented players not given a chance, poor team selections and even later substitutions, by this Dinosaur.
Tony Hughes
54 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:11:10
Can someone type in 'Bramley-Moore Dock' to TFG's SatNav, just in case they can find the Hill Dickindon Stadium...
Mike Gaynes
55 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:15:12
Ornstein is a reliable media source.

Let's hope the Hackney report proves out, because I think he might be just the right #10 for us.
Christy Ring
56 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:26:48
Mike #68

He can play #10, but he plays deeper at Boro', a playmaker with ball-winning ability.
Derek Knox
57 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:28:29
Mike G, I agree mon ami, but again, what attraction will any player have, apart possibly for money, to come to Everton and especially if Moyes remains, not good for a young player's prospects?

3 points from a possible 21 in the last 7 matches would be relegation form at any other Club. How does he get away with it? Teflon-coated or what?
Ian Bennett
58 Posted 02/06/2026 at 21:36:51
Not mad about the Hackney links. He is a tidy player, don't get me wrong, and will score and play well in between the lines.

But he doesn't have the size or pace I think to be top end in the Premier League.

Every season we ask for more pace, and every season we go after players that lack it.
Tom Bowers
59 Posted 02/06/2026 at 23:13:49
There is nothing at Everton currently going to attract top quality players. We have been lucky in getting some real bargains over the years and will need that luck again.

This season should have produced more good results and most of us don't understand the adverse performances especially toward the end of the season.
We managed to a few decent results despite the poor offence as the defence was holding firm but it too became very shoddy.

If Moyes is to be suffered for next season then one hopes that the glaring weaknesses we all witnessed every week will be properly addressed otherwise it's an average squad finishing in mid-table again.
Mick O\\\'Malley
60 Posted 03/06/2026 at 09:12:57
There will be a lot more excitement at the RL magic weekend than some of the shite we've had served up at HDS last season, really looking forward to it, I love Rugby League, especially looking forward to Warrington Wolves against Leigh Leopards, also RIP to John Kear who died Sunday after doing the commentary on the Challenge Cup final on Saturday, he was a RL legend and a great commentator
Dave Abrahams
61 Posted 03/06/2026 at 09:50:22
Ah fuck it I’m going back to the summer of 1966 and listening to the end of the 6-00pm news and the newscaster saying and over to sport- —“ Everton have signed Alan Ball from Blackpool” Yis that will do me and I danced round the room with my wife looking on with her mouth wide open finally realising she had married a bleedin’ dickhead.

I’d attempt another dance round the house now if it was announced that Everton had thanked Moyes for his services but had decided to let him go.
Kevin Molloy
62 Posted 03/06/2026 at 10:58:04
I was just watching a political debate about the Lib Dems, and this chap who was excluded from being a candidate for his religion. And he was opining upon how Christianity prevades our culture, whereupon he said, 'Even football, the Premier League, did you know that Everton Football Club was founded by Christians.'
I never knew that, but AI has confirmed
The club was established in 1878 by members of the St. Domingo's Methodist Church parish in Liverpool. The church's minister, the Reverend Ben Chambers, organized the team to give his congregation a sporting activity to play during the winter months.'
Ajay Gopal
63 Posted 03/06/2026 at 11:31:58
I have been predicting for a few months now that Ndiaye is likely to leave the club this summer.

My expected/ desired sales and buys:

Sales:
Ndiaye 60 million
McNeil 10 million
Patterson 6-8 million (if he has a good World Cup)
Beto 20 million
Iroegbunam 15 million

Buys:
Rohl 15 million
George 25 million
Forward (Parrot/??) 40 million
Midfielder - somebody mentioned McTominay or someone as good and experienced like him: 30-40 million
Right Back: 25-30 million
Centre Back: John Stones/ Ake: Free
Grealish: Extended Loan

Net spend: About 50-60 million

Plus, I would REALLY REALLY like to see a more adventurous manager who will utilise the squad better - any one of Glasner, Howe, would do, if not some other up and coming manager.
Mike Hayes
64 Posted 03/06/2026 at 11:57:38
According to the people’s forum - Ndiaye isn’t looking to go he’s still got three years and his agent wants a £40m buy out clause in a new contract but Everton say that’s too low
James Marshall
65 Posted 03/06/2026 at 12:01:18
If McTominay moves to Everton I'll eat my hat.
Andrew Ellams
66 Posted 03/06/2026 at 12:08:56
Kevin @ 62, the club was originally called St Domingos FC. I thought we all knew that.
Kevin Molloy
67 Posted 03/06/2026 at 12:16:04
Andrew yes I did know that as one of the buried facts about Everton. I hadn't reflected though on the fact we were effectively a Church Sunday league team. I thought we were more the product of local businessmen (don't get me wrong, I prefer this genesis).
Brian Denton
68 Posted 03/06/2026 at 13:18:26
It"s a generational thing. If you're my age not only did your childhood see great Everton sides which could go toe to toe with all the top English clubs (we were able to buy the best player in a World Cup winning team ffs!), but also you are very much on the short strokes at the back end of life. The kids might be able to see out another 40 years before we win the League again. We don't have that luxury!
Ian Bennett
69 Posted 03/06/2026 at 13:27:05
Leon Osman was talking to Tony Bellow on their podcast about Rohl.

Leon thought it was right to play Rohl on the right, as he thinks the league was too fast to put him in the middle immediately.

Thought it was interesting coming from someone who was a central midfielder, but who played initially on the right.
Andy Meighan
70 Posted 03/06/2026 at 19:18:39
No, Ian @69.

The only reason Osman is saying that is because the likes of him, Hibbert, Lescott etc haven't got a bad word to say about their former gaffer, and it's quite embarrassing to hear at times.

As for that podcast, it's cringeworthy to listen to. Bellew calling Moyes 'gaffer' and how he's done a wonderful job since he came back -- he might have for the first 5 months but not since.

Then again, I remember meeting him a few times when Benitez was appointed and he was waxing lyrical about him getting us into the Champions League and challenging for trophies, I said he might have 10 years ago but he's yesterday's man.

That worked out well, didnt it? Nice fella, Tony, but a bit of a company man.
John Williams
71 Posted 04/06/2026 at 09:58:43
It always amazes me that an ordinary Joe always thinks they are right...

But an ex-professional footballer who has played at a fairly high level is wrong.
Dave Abrahams
72 Posted 04/06/2026 at 10:19:03
John (71),

Yes, some former players were well worth listening to — Alan Hansen for one was very good, apart from “You'll win nothing with youngsters”.

But quite a lot of them do talk a lot of nonsense and personal bias is used very often, although I very seldom pay attention to pundits these days.
Phil Roberts
73 Posted 04/06/2026 at 22:14:43
Is Michael O'Neill after Moyes job??

12 subs named for the match with Guinea.
10 of them get on the pitch and Braiden Graham one of the two left on the bench, the other being the 2rd goalkeeper.

Why did he not put him on? Doesn't trust youth?
Paul Kossoff
74 Posted 04/06/2026 at 00:11:04
Everton are chasing Arsenal's Brazil forward Gabriel Jesus, 29, but want the Premier League champions to reduce their £20m asking price. (Football Insider)
Worth a pun? He's better than we have surely.
Mike Gaynes
75 Posted 05/06/2026 at 01:05:48
Of course it's worth a pun, PK.

I don't want Jesus because he doesn't do well on crosses.

Oh, wait, you meant 'punt'. My apologies.
Mike Gaynes
76 Posted 05/06/2026 at 01:07:28
Ian #69, I would just like it on the record that when I had my Achilles surgery Wednesday morning, the nurse attendant who wheeled me out to the parking garage was named Leon Osman.
Don Alexander
77 Posted 05/06/2026 at 01:50:57
When it comes to the insight of allegedly brilliant participants in their chosen industry, I reflect on the decade and a half I spent promoting bands to paying, devoted fans.

Only a few of those fabulous bands had the insight to identify their very own strengths and weaknesses when on stage.

With friends, I generally employed skilled managers to enhance the sound bands made and, almost always, those bands then sold huge numbers of CDs to their adoring audience.

My point is that insider pros will always defend themselves and whoever they put on stage, despite the fact that neither they nor their players ever amounted to much when it came to crowd appeal; "tidy-on-a-good-day" Osman exemplifying this.

Meaningful "crowd appeal" to be realised may need an ostensible nerd, as many in the music world I promoted considered me to be (some admitting it as they walked away having made a fortune in CD sales following their gig) and so I just wonder whether or not Friedkin may at this stage plead with Danny O'Neill, Lyndon, or either (or both!) the Abrahams to participate in the boardroom?

We need to show "soul", whether in blues, rock, jazz, country or whatever musical genre, and football. "Ordinary" folks pay to see/hear it, and always have.

The Moyesiah, ha-bloody-ha, is soulless.
Derek Knox
78 Posted 05/06/2026 at 09:58:29
James M @ 65, I would love that to come off being a Scot, and if it does, hope you don't wear a crash helmet!

Don @77, what about our own old mate George McKane with Cosmic Blue Grooves in the Boardroom?
Alan McGuffog
79 Posted 05/06/2026 at 10:29:48
Dave...what sort of dance did you do in December 71 ? 🫤
Paul Kossoff
80 Posted 05/06/2026 at 15:47:13
Mike 75. Seeing as you had an ankle problem, what is your opinion on the new Odyssey film?

My poor knowledge of Greek mythology is my Achilles elbow... I think it's in the Pit, or not. Seems relevant.😀

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