
David Moyes prepares to welcome Pep Guardiola and Manchester City on Monday
David Moyes has said he is confident that Everton are in an improved position to attract potential signings this summer.
The club’s push for European qualification has stalled after successive defeats to Liverpool and West Ham, results which have seen the Toffees drop to 11th in the Premier League.
European football remains a possibility, though there is now little room for error in the run-in. Everton host title-chasing Manchester City at Hill Dickinson Stadium on Monday night, a fixture that Moyes will use to judge the progress of his side.
Ahead of the clash, the Scot said European qualification remains the ambition, and that continental football would represent a boost to transfer plans.
However, regardless of that eventual outcome, Moyes outlined his belief that the Blues are in a better position to attract top players to the club than in previous windows.
He said recent relegation scares had made it ‘difficult’ to sell the project, but that a campaign challenging in the top half, and the lure of Hill Dickinson Stadium, should increase the appeal ahead of the summer.
“I’ve always said players want to play in Europe. We’ve got to make sure that is a possibility,” he said at his pre-match press conference.
“That’ll be the challenge for us. I found it difficult to attract players last summer because of that. The difference now is that Everton have been close this year. People have had the chance to see the new stadium and a full house at all the games, so there are a lot of things to be positive about.”
Moyes says Everton 'looking forward' to Manchester City challenge
Everton meet a Manchester City side this weekend, who are chasing a domestic treble. City reached a fourth consecutive FA Cup final by beating Southampton last weekend, and have won six straight games since elimination from Europe last month.
Moyes is expecting a difficult challenge and insists he is not surprised to see City find form at a crucial part of the campaign.
"It's not unexpected that Man City are in that [form]. They've had a bit of a change around in the past 12 months or so and they're beginning to get things in place.
"They're always a really good side, tough to play against. In some ways, we're looking forward to it. We're looking forward to the challenge."
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4 Posted 01/05/2026 at 16:32:59
Last summer, he seemed (very much) to be blaming the inept and ineffectual recruitment team. Now he's changed that story.
So it is his fault for Aznou, Barry, Dibling, Rohl, all the goalkeepers, and George whom he has moaned and whinged about being not good enough or not fit for the Premier League. Then not played them and blamed them. Benched em alongside his other nemesis Patterson.
With treatment of them that he has overtly and publicly spewed, them quality signables will be queuing round the block for Davey the Dinosaur.
5 Posted 01/05/2026 at 17:43:06
The gossip candidates this week include John Stones and Ben White, which sound believable Moyes signings. We may not hear about his true candidates until the bids are in and the leaks circulate, and we still don't know about the manager's own contract situation.
6 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:13:16
This is obviously some tripe served up for the younger generation.
Make Everton Geriatric Again, sign him up for the long term.
7 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:20:26
8 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:29:51
It looks like it might be more about getting a few of those experienced players who don't really need to be coached that much from now on.
9 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:14:05
You might not like Moyes, but that's what you are going to get.
Dibling, Aznou, Patterson, maybe Alcaraz are not Premier League players. They would have struggled getting into Burnley's or Wolves' first team.
10 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:43:19
Experience is fine but I'm not sure David Moyes will get too many experienced players though. I genuinely don't think he has got the personality to deal with experienced players knocking on his door if they aren't getting a fair crack of the whip.
Whereas it definitely looks like it might be a lot easier to do this with those younger players in his squad who are simply not Premier League players.
11 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:52:25
What about Rohl? There is no real evidence to suggest he isn't up to Premier League standard. Why doesn't he get opportunities? Gana is old and needs the rest. Rohl would likely not give the ball up as much as Gana.
Stating the Everton situation this way, again, looks like he is playing Friedkin. You can play TFG that way... but you will lose the fans.
Friedkin may not know Everton well enough to see through this. We sure as hell can.
12 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:59:19
Dibling won't get a look in, we'll go out the cups early doors and we'll be slightly nearer the Euro spots... and repeat.
13 Posted 01/05/2026 at 20:01:35
14 Posted 01/05/2026 at 20:09:27
Moyes delivers with what it says on his resume, and for a lot of Evertonians, that's a whole lot better than worrying about relegation.
From the outside looking in, when I look at Glasner, my first thoughts are that he's obviously a very ambitious manager. This conclusion is reached because of the way he was very frustrated early on in the season, in a similar way Moyes used to air his frustration when Bill Kenwright was his chairman.
The difference is Moyes, took advantage of the situation, especially because it was generally perceived that he was doing an excellent job at Everton, whereas Glasner, has already decided to back himself by saying he his leaving Palace.
His record over the last couple of years is just what I think Everton need right now, but that's just my own opinion.
Any manager who has lost three players who would get into 90% of club teams anywhere in Europe (Eze, Elise and Guehi) and keep delivering (in the cups) has definitely got a lot of ability. This is why I'd love to see us showing ambition by trying to get a winning manager with real ambition.
15 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:05:23
But it is a reasonable presumption that TFG would review his long-term strategy before funding the coming transfer window, which would also mean having to consider his contract term.
I admit this is speculative, but our new owners do seem to be "on the money"!
16 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:21:47
Stone and White are typical Moyes signings. Must have experience remember, regardless of whether they are actually very good.
What player is going to want to join a team who stick with a rigid, defensive system in every game? Not forgetting that you have to be one of Defensive Dave's lackies to be guaranteed a starting spot.
The stadium and our current league position doesn't change our managers outlook on the game. Playing on the front foot? No need for that kind of rubbish.
17 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:35:46
Not very good? One could pick up 3 medals and the other a European Cup.
But, yeah, let's stick with Keane and Tarkowski.
18 Posted 02/05/2026 at 04:15:19
I guess my take is that Moyes has achieved what was needed from him. It's done. For what the personnel can offer, Moyes has these players programmed to mind their duties. Not only that, the traps are smart given our overall speed. We are as competent as can be expected on defence, excepting corners of course.
Now, who wants to present the claim that Moyes can himself develop into the manager whose attack schemes can break down the top Premier League defences? I can't.
19 Posted 02/05/2026 at 04:54:21
Plus, Moyes still has a year on his contract, so I don't see TFG spending unnecessary money on a pay-off when there's no panic.
20 Posted 02/05/2026 at 05:09:37
Irrespective of whether Moyes stays or is replaced, I expect McNeil, Patterson, Barry, Coleman and Ndiaye to leave.
If Moyes stays, expect Grealish, Stones, Ake, Delap, and a winger (Bowen) to be signed. Hopefully Soucek is not on Moyes's list because that would surely hamper the development of Armstrong, Rohl, Iroegbunam, etc.
If someone like Glasner comes in, we can expect some younger, faster players and more chances for Dibling, Rohl, Alcaraz, Iroegbunam, and Aznou.
21 Posted 02/05/2026 at 05:41:42
With only a few weeks left of the season Moyes will have told the recruitment team what he needs in the way of players for next season and if that doesn't align with their / TFGs future plans they'll be talking to managers to take over asap.
Or they're looking for another season of stability and progress, and will back Moyes to carry on regardless.
22 Posted 02/05/2026 at 07:25:33
What could be interesting is how that plays out in the summer in terms of transfers. If TFG are committed to replacing Moyes at the end of his contract, how will they respond to the sort of players he may want to sign knowing he has only one season left? Hopefully this does not result in a disconnect between Moyes and the rest of the recruitment team.
I'm not going to lose any sleep about us not getting Glasner in as manager. He's done brilliantly at Palace but that doesn't mean he'll be a success at his next club, there are lots of examples of this, every managerial appointment is a risk and there'll be plenty of others available in the summer after next to lead us to the fabled Promised Land that certain ToffeeWebbers keep dreaming about, AKA mid-table!!
Btw Michael Kenrick, thanks for fixing the site, I was Dave Lynch the other day!!
23 Posted 02/05/2026 at 09:47:25
You are right, we would all like to be in the FA Cup Final.
When you look at Chelseas record in the Cup this year, I would have fancied the Blues to have made the final.
Chelsea only came in at the 4th round stage playing,
Hull City, Wrexham, Port Vale, then Leeds in Semi Final.
The draw has been very kind to them.
The people who came up, with allowing top teams to come in at the 4th round stage, should be dismissed from their roles.
24 Posted 02/05/2026 at 10:06:21
What progress?
We finished two places below our current position last season.
That progress?
26 Posted 02/05/2026 at 10:44:27
I think that Chelsea beat Charlton in Round 3. Another easy one like, but they did play.
27 Posted 02/05/2026 at 12:11:33
That's a pretty bizarre post from a fan of English footie, claiming that Chelsea or any club comes in at the 4th Round of the FA Cup.
It's always been the 3rd Round -- for nigh-on a century -- starting with the 1925-26 season. Ask Dave about it, I'm sure he remembers it well.
28 Posted 02/05/2026 at 12:15:36
I remember losing to Wigan in the FA Cup Quarter-Final at Goodison, when Millwall were waiting for the winners in the semi-final at Wembley. There have been many cup capitulations during Moyes's time at Everton, way too many to mention unfortunately.
29 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:01:26
Whatever his pros and cons, that's pretty mediocre.
30 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:23:14
31 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:34:14
Whatever the level, whatever the quality of the teams, the size of the club etc... he's a perennial loser.
We never have, and we never will, win anything with him. New owners, new ground, new broom please.
32 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:54:09
What's all this bollocks about "progress" we are being presented with?
33 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:59:53
But at least Moyes wont get lumbered with players he doesn't want (although he has final say) as players who wouldn't come because we weren't in Europe last summer, will come this summer because Moyes has mentioned Europe in his pressers a few times.
34 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:23:29
City have spent €2,000M under Pep, and that follows another €1,400M before he arrived.
£100M is fucking roundings mate. Their wage bill is four times ours.
Rinse and repeat for every other top club.
35 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:24:32
A team which had scored 2 goals in 10 games. Is that not a little unrealistic?
36 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:30:41
He's got more backing than Dyche and a few before him, but no difference. The only reason there has been talk of Europe is because the Premeir League is a bunch of similar average teams. Moyes has not done anything.
His teams play awful boring football. He doesn't win trophies. A younger Roy Hodgson, an alternative Sam Allardyce. Talks absolute shite about players now wanting to come.
Think big, Everton, try something different. Nearly 15 years under Moyes. Nothing won. 'There have been good times' narrative. Enough is enough.
37 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:32:26
Rinse and repeat over neatly 30 years of management. Time for change.
38 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:35:37
39 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:47:25
We've had our best season in years, and you are spending all your time calling for a change of manager. To whom? Anybody. so, we'd enter the same raffle as West Ham, Spurs and Forest, you want to start that whole mess off again? How about a couple of years of stability, incremental progress, building up the squad, so that when we make our next appointment, we're not scrabbling around for the also rans..
40 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:57:15
11th and it's our best season in years.
Celebrated as well.
41 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:58:23
Tbf ive woken up this morning in a bad mood with a bad back and read the self-serving shite Moyes spouted yesterday. Laying prostate on the couch with nothing better to do than vent my frustrations.
Im calling for the manager to go because in 15 years managing this club he's failed. In 28 years as a manager he's failed. He is an average journeyman who fails.
And him and his football are dull and like watching paint dry. Can't do it anymore. Especially with a bad back and having to scale a feckin mountain to get to my seat.
I understand and respect the stability camp. I'm just not in it. Unless it was a base camp at the bottom of the East Stand and didnt have to nearly have a coronary most weeks. I'd probably change my tune then.
42 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:00:04
You would like to think spending more than £100 million would make more of a difference than moving from 13th to 11th
43 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:28:47
We can only hope the 10 men drop points to allow us back into the giddy heights of 11th
44 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:31:27
However, Glasner has had to replace Guehi and surely had an eye on what defenders were available. I would trust him to select and integrate available players with a better budget.
I believe Palace is a decent lab in which a promising manager can develop. Financial ceiling, required turnover to compensate for small gate revenue, working the press to get pressure on owners, all of the skills needed to push TFG towards a path of ambition.
If TFG choose to wait at this juncture, they are risking a hell of a lot of momentum the stadium was intended to provide.
Continuity and stability are desirable. Opportunities for making moves on the teetering top six are discrete and limited events. Make your choices and take your chances when available, or ride with Moyes and sit in the backseat behind the Padres.
45 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:47:09
have you been abroad or like working on an oil rig for the last ten years?
you seem to have teleported here form 1987, when \\\\Everton expected to win things.
46 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:55:34
47 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:55:52
48 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:02:06
and how would you plot progress on that front? what measurements would you take ?
49 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:04:27
50 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:11:45
Have a look through them,especially the home games,be honest with yourself.
How many of them would we have won with a more positive approach.
51 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:16:20
We've never been relegated so therefore shouldn't be expected to win a trophy or even a Merseyside Derby
52 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:19:14
We've been poor at home, no question. But it's not cos we're 'negative'. it's cos we've not played well. there are reasons for that, like having no fullbacks and a struggling forward. Plus horrendous injuries to our best players.
I find this relentless negativity on here hinders proper analysis of the positives and negatives of the season. Moyes has with the season coming to an end done well in certain areas, and not so well in others. but this all or nothing just obscures the picture. The transfers of last season definitely need a careful look, as do the team's form since we got back from the last break. but we don't seem to be able to have that debate, cos it's drowned out by 'he's shit, get rid!'.
53 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:24:14
54 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:25:53
My next measurement is your football I.Q.
55 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:26:16
I assume everyone is happy on the £27m or so on Dewesbury Hall, so the issue is the £73m spent on plsyers not at their playing peak.
So the feedback is buy players at 26 and above, as you want instant return.
56 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:28:20
Shall we address you as Seargant Slash?
57 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:28:24
Starting with two full backs
58 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:43:16
Its been enough for one lifelong fan I know, hes letting his nephew take over his ticket next season had enough of watching this Everton under the uninspiring football produced by Moyes, I think quite a few more are thinking the same.
59 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:47:08
Monday will be the 7th time this season I've give my ticket away.
60 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:56:48
61 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:02:52
"Another season" suggests you consider we have progressed this season Eric?
62 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:03:06
so he stuck with Everton through the two games in ten games relegation dogfights, but it's this season in our new ground watching Grealish KDH Garner and Ndiaye that has broken him?
63 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:05:08
Im hoping to be in with a shout for a season ticket for next season...if this miserable fucker is still here, l think l'll pass...why the fuck did he get 3 yrs, 18mths would/should have been perfectly adequate!!!!
64 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:10:52
Merle, 2 1/2 years wasn't it?
65 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:16:13
“ we could have wrote the script for that game couldnt we ?”
I dont think he was over impressed with Jack to be honest although I imagine he would have been impressed with Garner and Ndiaye and sometimes KDH because he likes players who excite or are team players.
66 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:16:13
2 Moyes press conference excusefests a week is twice as much bullcrap as I can take.
67 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:18:41
68 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:22:37
69 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:26:49
EFC are more stable than Everest Eric
More of the same next season,a mid table finish OK for you next season?
70 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:34:57
Rather than in the football entertainment industry.
71 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:39:52
72 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:47:03
And who do you have to thank for that considering when he took over we were 1 point from the relegation zone, had scored 2 goals in 10 games and failed to register a shot on target in the others.
But you'd have preferred we kept Dyche!
73 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:51:51
74 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:53:42
75 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:04:44
But. that would have been 😜
Why? Well no real reason as if we could predict accurately, we would all be posting from Monaco, Crosby et al.
But for first time in 20 years I bet on us today.
But no issue. Be dead before a bookies tries that again in another 20 !
The prob with site now?
Now and then realise this could be, occasionally, self effacing fun rather than one post ending up with usuals feeling put-upon, vulnerable or needing to expand online muscles.
Like others. I recall Blue Kipper
Remember?
76 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:19:22
77 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:23:43
78 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:28:05
The TW vibe shines through! Just look at these posts, Royal Blue (light on the royal there) spirit all the way up and down.
Seriously though, inheriting web architecture without rebuilding entirely is a delicate and difficult trick. I know next to fuckall about the details, but when you try to fix something in one module or segment of code, you don't know what you may knock loose elsewhere.
Previously, it was like Delph on the training table. Now, it is more like Branthwaite making his way back.
Have faith, avoid horseshit. Sir.
79 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:34:57
80 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:51:55
That sums him up.
81 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:28:38
82 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:32:37
Going to watch is at home is mind numbing as teams like Brentford, Newcastle and even shitty Spurs come and tear us a new one, whilst the shite, Man U and probably City on Monday walk off with the points as hes defeated before its even kicked off with his infamous KITAP approach. Then theres the home draws to West Ham, Wolves, Leeds - all predictable Moyes results when he fails to kill games off with his ‘settle for a draw mentality.
We need a fresh approach to move ahead as a club rather than this settle for mediocrity and the safety-first approach that Moyes brings. Theres just no joy in watching us and there wont be whilst he remains in charge.
83 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:48:10
I agree with all of your post.
We had a chance of CL at one time,hecdidnt godforsaken it at all.People can say that's unrealistic but not imo.If it's therecgo for it.We never beat liverpool by playing in a timid manner, he should have went for them aggressively, he had a free hand.
We won't even get Conference League now.
It's as if he is scared to be successful.
84 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:02:19
Compare the Aston Villa approach. They've gone about things that has taken the club forward, have a good manager and are seeing the return in the league and Europe.
Their average age is 29. They have a deeper squad, but they have also had a lot of their players in their peak. Yes, a couple of emerging players, but mostly experienced players.
Per AI
As of May 2026, Aston Villa's typical starting lineup under Unai Emery has a high average age of approximately 28 to 29 years old. While the squad features established stars like Emiliano Martínez (33) and Ollie Watkins (30), it has also recently integrated younger players like Morgan Rogers (23) and Amadou Onana (24).
Onana is the one being dug out as letting the team down, and should be sold. Whilst Matsen is unconvincing.
Usual Starting XI and Ages (2025/26 Season)
Position Player Age
Goalkeeper Emiliano Martínez 33
Right-Back Matty Cash 28
Centre-Back Ezri Konsa 28
Centre-Back Pau Torres 29
Left-Back Ian Maatsen 24
Midfield Youri Tielemans 28
Midfield Amadou Onana* 24
Right Wing Leon Bailey 28
Attacking Mid Morgan Rogers 23
Left Wing John McGinn (C) 31
Forward Ollie Watkins 30
Add Digne, Mings, Buendia, Barkley, Abrahams, Barkley, lindeloff, bizot. All 29/30+.
Emery proves thst success on the pitch is what matters, and he is doing it with players with experience.
85 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:06:09
86 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:36:18
87 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:57:56
And up until the last couple of weeks we had the best away record in the laague. So those are significant wins.
And there are also questions. the home form, the recruitment last year, the form since the last break. Yes, we need to discuss these things, but why can't it be done calmly.
I've no doubt our home form will improve if we get a good run with our best players, and get a couple of good fullbacks. No doubt at all.
the recruitment is the biggest issue I have with Moyes. I've been giving him a pastor most of the season on this but the more I look at it now the more he has to carry the can here. If he chose the players, they've not worked out. and if he didn't pick them, he should have. He certainly shouldn't be leaving it to a dickhead like Angus. so this summer is key, he has to get the recuritment right, no excuses about players not wanting to come, That's bullshit. But even if we agree last year wasn't good, the players we need to move on can be moved on. the kids are none of them on big contracts like our previous disastrous windows. Dibling aint gonna be sitting on 200 grand a week. So we take the hit, and reinvest most of th money
88 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:59:12
He's the fucking anti-christ to me, lve said it before he's given me the bulk of my worst moments as an Evertonian, a re-occuring nightmare which plays out over and over again...other than that l'm quite a pleasant up beat chap...when he took over again, the singer out of Peters and Lee could have got us out the smelly stuff by just doing the exact opposite of what Dyche was doing...the blind fella could have done it as well
89 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:06:32
He's not interested in cups, not because he prioritises the league, but because he knows deep down that he can't win them.
His home form has been crap this season. His football as dull as ever. That's what we know.
Just go Dave. Bore some other fanbase.
90 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:29:41
91 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:39:29
92 Posted 02/05/2026 at 22:11:28
It's ridiculous that only Ferguson and Wenger have managed more games than our very own extremely wealthy bullshitter. He must surely have largely been employed by, and been fundamentally complicit with, a totally self-serving (to the cost of our club's status and attractiveness in the "football world") shithouse.
Friedkin THIS summer needs to show the extent of his/their ambition,
Financially they're probably doing OK this season - but do they want to do better?
Like us fans do?
93 Posted 02/05/2026 at 23:09:44
I'm sure some on here believe we bring in a new manager and all of a sudden Mcneil and Co turn into goalscoring sensations like there were under the past 4 or so managers.
94 Posted 03/05/2026 at 01:41:31
95 Posted 03/05/2026 at 01:53:34
96 Posted 03/05/2026 at 02:36:28
‘Improvement! ‘Improvement my rather shapely rear end.
We are currently hovering in 11th position playing shite footy for the most part with a reasonable chance, I suppose, of dropping down a place on Monday.
We finished 12th last season Mr. Moyes and in this, your first season of your second spell where you alone have been in charge, there is a danger that we might end up below 12th.
Woooh Mr. Moyes! The major players will be queuing up at our door: ‘Please, please, I want to join the project.
No reason to have any expectations that our home form will improve and no reason to think that our away form will dip if it does.
Also, is there any real reason to think that our ace recruitment team will do a better job this summer.
Just being ‘pragmatic and ‘realistic IB and KM.
97 Posted 03/05/2026 at 06:54:03
98 Posted 03/05/2026 at 07:22:35
You are doing what you always do. You cant answer the charges against Moyes being a boring negative twat, so you create a whole new straw man argument that you think you can answer.
Congratulations on all those hours of google research. That might impress the likes of Eric, but what has Villa's signing got to do with Moyes being a boring Fucker ?
Where are all these people "playing the drum about youth" that you are raging against ??
99 Posted 03/05/2026 at 08:37:13
100 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:06:08
He just said he was getting really wound up watching that boring shite and he definitely wasnt alone, because he reckoned there was quite a few others who did exactly the same thing.
We are playing Man City tomorrow night. Its a huge game but I just cant garner enough excitement, if Im being totally honest, and will probably just watch the game on TV.
101 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:22:39
You are letting this bBoring fucker sour a lifetime of devotion. Reading this, it sounds very much as if you are not alone.
I've seen many people losing their love of going the game. Once it's lost, it doesn't come back.
He'll be gone soon enough.
102 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:44:09
I don't think the Pope would be a very welcome present for Davy!
103 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:37:07
I suspect if you offered TFG 8th place, no trophies and no relegation struggles for the next 20 years, they'd bite your hands off.
As unfortunately would many of our fan base, at least as represented on ToffeeWeb.
104 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:41:01
105 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:41:43
Apparently, David Moyes knows what Everton supporters wants and criticism of the managers style of plays “does my head in.”
“Everton fans want you to get the ball forward, get the ball out wide, get the ball out wide with crosses into the box, be aggressive, go and win tackles. If you go to the stadium now, when a forward goes and makes a tackle on a full-back, theres a bigger cheer then than when theres a goal – they want to see fights.”
Well you need to tell your mate Moyes this, rather than talk shite, as what your mate has served up this season doesnt resemble the above in any way.
Also, your talking rubbish wig-head. There are not bigger cheers for tackles than for goals. Thats just sitting in a cafe chatting bollocks with condescending RS professional scousers.
Fed up of this crap we are being shovelled down our throats. Know your place, be thankful for Dave, don't try and succeed, let the RS laugh at you dogshit.
106 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:45:45
Average ages.
Bournemouth 25
Brighton 25
Brentford 26
All above us in the table.
107 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:48:26
The comparison in clubs is absolutely valid, as theyre very similar institutions, facing the same challenges.
Both have gone through the ringer, both showing the signs of stability on and off the field. When we were in the shit with 777 etc, Villa were quietly moving forward, and are consequently years ahead despite being promoted not too long ago.
But back to the game. A manager can only play with what he has in the squad. And we look better when we have our best available 11. I assume youd agree that we look better with Branthwaite in the side?
Well keep going with that. Villa are achieving because the squad has far more players at the level, to deliver in the here and now, than us. Id assume youd agree with that?
They have a good keeper, a good striker, a lot of creative goal scoring midfielders and a competent defence. We might beat them in a one-off game, but they have a far better squad over the season.
Does Emery play free flowing football? Does he fairy cakes. He plays a similar style to Moyes, but he has better quality - a reliable striker, full backs that can get forward, a defence that is quick & can play the high line, and midfielders that score and create.
The strawman as you put it, is in response to those that demand Aznou, Rohl, Dibling in the side, and that turn their face up at experuence in Stones, White, and previously Mctominlay. Those that want to play more attacking football, but fail to grasp we are still short in that area, with a current defence that cant play much further forward than the 18 yard box, and where the team typically doesnt win if it concedes first.
Sacking managers at Everton, whilst the squad isn't up to snuff is a waste of time. It just papers over the cracks of the players that you have, that don't deliver and never will.
Is Tarkowski, Keane, Mcneil, Mykolenko, Obrien suddenly going to be world class when Moyes goes? No they're not. Theyre mid table players, in a mid table team.
If they were all top 4 players and he was under achieving with that, then fair enough. But they arent.
If you want better, you need to buy better than that, regardless of who is in the dugout. Then judge the manager.
108 Posted 03/05/2026 at 13:29:13
I have a thirst for knowledge, especially where Everton are concerned, but I have no have no appetite for ill-informed stats or the sort of inconsequential babble you spend hours researching in your relentless quest to defend Moyes from criticism -- especially when you defend him from criticism that hasn't even been levelled at him -- see this thread.
Now that you have accepted that this thread was never about youth. You have now tried to tell us Emery plays a similar style to boring Mr Brightside. He doesn't. In fact he approaches the game very differently. You don't need to be a student of the game to know that.
Anyone with a passing interest would be able to tell you that one of them goes out to win games, while the other focuses entirely on not losing them.
I'm guessing you are now trying to figure out which is which?
109 Posted 03/05/2026 at 13:42:01
He's also won 11 trophies in 20 odd seasons as a manager. Gets to finals and mostly wins them.
Emery is about as far from the expert in failure as is possible.
110 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:04:46
The plus-5 goal difference of Emery for the season tells me he isn't free flowing at all from 34 matches.
It was nice to paint that he is, but the facts don't back it up, my old china.
With way better players, a centre-forward that can score, Villa only have 6 more goals than Everton in 34 matches.
111 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:21:14
Moyes and Emery are not similar when you look at each of their trophy cabinets.
112 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:38:02
113 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:46:31
You do make me laugh with your ability to ignore facts and official records while trying to peddle your carefully selected stats.
On 58 points, Emery is over the hill and far away from Moyes. Many of his players are inferior to Moyes's. He would snatch your hand off for players of the quality of Branthwaite, Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall, Grealish, O'Brien, Garner. He would certainly have made far better use of Dibling, Alcaraz and Rohl.
If you care to look at Liam's post @109, you'll get a rough idea as to how far away from the truth you are. Unfortunately for you, Liam backs it up with facts while you stumble around in the dark trying to counter it with yet more irrelevant stats.
BTW, the "centre-forward that can score" has got three more Premier League goals than Beto. A gap that would almost certainly have closed if Beto had gotten anywhere near as many starts.
114 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:59:53
Emery is achieving success with senior players, playing a conservative game.
Good to have you on board, and I don't disagree on Beto. Looked a lot better since Christmas.
115 Posted 03/05/2026 at 15:22:36
If you wanted to show Moyes in a decent light. Trying to compare him to Emery was never going to be the right way of going about it.
You might want to try comparing him to a manager who has failed in as many competitions as him
Good luck
116 Posted 03/05/2026 at 15:57:50
I would be over the moon if these owners pulled the plug this season, but I don't think it will happen - now if we fail to win any of our remaining games !!
Moyes v's Emery ?
Well the latter is obviously miles ahead in winners medals, absolutely does not set his teams up to play like Moyes - he goes out to win the game ( most of the time ), has won a load of trophy's at various different clubs with different budgets !
There are zero comparisons.
Ask any neutral ( never mind Everton fans ) who would they rather have as manager and our guy wouldn't get many votes !
117 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:08:23
you think a manager with a plus 5 goal difference plays free flowing football.
Despite the cat calling over the Grealish loan, you have him down as a quality player. No doubt torn that you don't want to pay the wages, nor him being a success elsewhere.
You think we have 6 quality players in total, of which a 1/3rd is injured.
You seem to rate Beto.
You seem surprised that Villa are over the hill and far away, when they were building, we were imploding.
Moyes lives in your head rent free, as ive not mentioned his name in any of my posts.
Not as good aa the last bank holiday mind. That was gold.
118 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:27:17
There are a few on ToffeeWeb who would choose Moyes over Emery.
119 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:31:10
Its highly embarrassing comparing the two managers, imo, because only for PSR, then my own view is that Aston Villa, might have been challenging for the premier league, this season.
I have watched four English teams play PSG, in the champions league in the last fifteen months. Liverpool twice, Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa, and my own opinion is that if you were to ask the PSG fans, who gave them their hardest test, then Im certain that at least three quarters of them would say it was Aston Villa.
I had a good day at the football yesterday, watching Cambridge, get promoted Darren, and although it wasnt a very good game, it turned out to be a very good occasion, so whilst I take your point and agree with you, I think Im going to pass on going to Bramley Moore, tomorrow night.
Ive just checked the fixtures and it will be the sixth game I will have missed, I then looked a little bit closer and thought about the games that I have genuinely enjoyed. Brighton because of the occasion, the second half against Palace. Forest and Chelsea, and even though we lost, I thought the atmosphere against Liverpool, showed me that if Everton, can get a positive manager, and a few more good players, then anything could be possible because of those incredibly passionate fans, who absolutely love the club.
120 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:44:01
121 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:46:47
You are awful Liam
122 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:47:15
I think we have 9-10 very good players. I just listed the ones I believe would get in the Villla side. I could easily have added Pickford - Incidentally; Ross Barkley started for them tonight.
Beto has surprised me, lately, but I can see his limitations. I like him, but I only mentioned him really to illustrate that Ollie Watkins form this season has hardly been the difference between the two sides.
Moyes does not live in my head. In fact I don't believe he would get much of a mention if people didnt feel the need to refute the relentless stream of apologetic pap put up by people like you. kevin Molloy and Eric - "I`m no apologist" - Myles. The battles are far more interesting than the man himself.
I'll let you into another secret while I'm at it, Ian. You may think that by not mentioning Moyes by name, you are discussing broader issues, but anyone reading your posts will see you furiously apologising and defending him against charges that havent even been levelled at him.
123 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:47:54
124 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:58:27
Haha, who you trying to kid.
125 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:05:48
Dont spout shite and you wont be put right
126 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:13:47
In your head, in your head
Moysie, Moysie, Moysie-ie-ie
What's in your head, in your head?
Moysie, Moysie, Moysie-ie-ie-ie, oh
127 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:53:16
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1 Posted 01/05/2026 at 15:07:17
I've not been able to post for a day for some reason, possibly because of my negativity around Moyes. I was going to post that perhaps it was hard to sign players last season because they know they wont win anything, or even get a chance under the Daveysaur, but I won't do that. Promise.