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David Moyes prepares to welcome Pep Guardiola and Manchester City on Monday
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David Moyes has said he is confident that Everton are in an improved position to attract potential signings this summer.

The club’s push for European qualification has stalled after successive defeats to Liverpool and West Ham, results which have seen the Toffees drop to 11th in the Premier League.

​European football remains a possibility, though there is now little room for error in the run-in. Everton host title-chasing Manchester City at Hill Dickinson Stadium on Monday night, a fixture that Moyes will use to judge the progress of his side.

​Ahead of the clash, the Scot said European qualification remains the ambition, and that continental football would represent a boost to transfer plans.

However, regardless of that eventual outcome, Moyes outlined his belief that the Blues are in a better position to attract top players to the club than in previous windows.

​He said recent relegation scares had made it ‘difficult’ to sell the project, but that a campaign challenging in the top half, and the lure of Hill Dickinson Stadium, should increase the appeal ahead of the summer.

​“I’ve always said players want to play in Europe. We’ve got to make sure that is a possibility,” he said at his pre-match press conference.

“That’ll be the challenge for us. I found it difficult to attract players last summer because of that. The difference now is that Everton have been close this year. People have had the chance to see the new stadium and a full house at all the games, so there are a lot of things to be positive about.”

Moyes says Everton 'looking forward' to Manchester City challenge

Everton meet a Manchester City side this weekend, who are chasing a domestic treble. City reached a fourth consecutive FA Cup final by beating Southampton last weekend, and have won six straight games since elimination from Europe last month.

Moyes is expecting a difficult challenge and insists he is not surprised to see City find form at a crucial part of the campaign.

"It's not unexpected that Man City are in that [form]. They've had a bit of a change around in the past 12 months or so and they're beginning to get things in place.

"They're always a really good side, tough to play against. In some ways, we're looking forward to it. We're looking forward to the challenge."

 

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Stu Gre
1 Posted 01/05/2026 at 15:07:17
Hey this was originally written by MK and is now showing as Harry D? TW is either having some serious problems or MK and HD are the same person.

I've not been able to post for a day for some reason, possibly because of my negativity around Moyes. I was going to post that perhaps it was hard to sign players last season because they know they wont win anything, or even get a chance under the Daveysaur, but I won't do that. Promise.
Harry Diamond
Editorial Team
2 Posted 01/05/2026 at 15:09:15
Hi Stu,

MK uploaded the piece for me as I've had log-in issues.

Hoping that these are mostly fixed now...
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
3 Posted 01/05/2026 at 15:46:09
Stu, you say whatever you like (well within reason!), and stand behind your opinion,

That's what we're all here to do. That was my bad. It automatically comes up with my name, so I have to change it manually... if I remember!

We hope that most of the recent comment problems are now sorted.
Martin Farrington
4 Posted 01/05/2026 at 16:32:59
MK, unlike Moyesasaurus there. Owning his mistakes and errors.

Last summer, he seemed (very much) to be blaming the inept and ineffectual recruitment team. Now he's changed that story.

So it is his fault for Aznou, Barry, Dibling, Rohl, all the goalkeepers, and George whom he has moaned and whinged about being not good enough or not fit for the Premier League. Then not played them and blamed them. Benched em alongside his other nemesis Patterson.

With treatment of them that he has overtly and publicly spewed, them quality signables will be queuing round the block for Davey the Dinosaur.

Andrew Merrick
5 Posted 01/05/2026 at 17:43:06
I don't blame the manager for putting out a positive angle on the club, but I am not sure who will be l be convinced by him.

The gossip candidates this week include John Stones and Ben White, which sound believable Moyes signings. We may not hear about his true candidates until the bids are in and the leaks circulate, and we still don't know about the manager's own contract situation.

Dale Self
6 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:13:16
"...difficult to sell the project", "We've got to make sure that (Europe) is a possibility", fuckin' come on maaan.

This is obviously some tripe served up for the younger generation.

Make Everton Geriatric Again, sign him up for the long term.
Nick White
7 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:20:26
Hi Andrew, I think Moyes has a contract until the end of next season.
Tony Abrahams
8 Posted 01/05/2026 at 18:29:51
We signed enough kids last summer, Dale; it sounds like it's a lot easier selling the product to those younger players.

It looks like it might be more about getting a few of those experienced players who don't really need to be coached that much from now on.

John Williams
9 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:14:05
Certainly do not want to follow Chelsea's formula. Too many inexperienced young players, suicidal manager appointments.

You might not like Moyes, but that's what you are going to get.

Dibling, Aznou, Patterson, maybe Alcaraz are not Premier League players. They would have struggled getting into Burnley's or Wolves' first team.

Tony Abrahams
10 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:43:19
I wouldn't mind being in the FA Cup Final, John, but I suppose certain people are always going to use other football clubs as an example that there is a wrong way to do things, even though our own club haven't won a trophy for 31 years.

Experience is fine but I'm not sure David Moyes will get too many experienced players though. I genuinely don't think he has got the personality to deal with experienced players knocking on his door if they aren't getting a fair crack of the whip.

Whereas it definitely looks like it might be a lot easier to do this with those younger players in his squad who are simply not Premier League players.
Dale Self
11 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:52:25
Yeah, Tony, this reads like he thinks the ones not playing were not good enough to sign for us, when Everton was a less attractive proposition.

What about Rohl? There is no real evidence to suggest he isn't up to Premier League standard. Why doesn't he get opportunities? Gana is old and needs the rest. Rohl would likely not give the ball up as much as Gana.

Stating the Everton situation this way, again, looks like he is playing Friedkin. You can play TFG that way... but you will lose the fans.

Friedkin may not know Everton well enough to see through this. We sure as hell can.
Mark Ryan
12 Posted 01/05/2026 at 19:59:19
It's nailed on that Moyes will be here next season because we are not around the relegation places and so the Friedkins will stick and not twist. Simple as that.

Dibling won't get a look in, we'll go out the cups early doors and we'll be slightly nearer the Euro spots... and repeat.

Jay Lewis
13 Posted 01/05/2026 at 20:01:35
Apparently we've put a formal offer in for a 21-year-old winger from PSV Eindhoven called Esmir Bajraktarević.
Tony Abrahams
14 Posted 01/05/2026 at 20:09:27
Dale, when you begin to realise that Moyes has a lot in the bank from a lot of the younger Evertonians -- and even some of the older ones -- then you suddenly see how badly we have stagnated over those last 30 years.

Moyes delivers with what it says on his resume, and for a lot of Evertonians, that's a whole lot better than worrying about relegation.

From the outside looking in, when I look at Glasner, my first thoughts are that he's obviously a very ambitious manager. This conclusion is reached because of the way he was very frustrated early on in the season, in a similar way Moyes used to air his frustration when Bill Kenwright was his chairman.

The difference is Moyes, took advantage of the situation, especially because it was generally perceived that he was doing an excellent job at Everton, whereas Glasner, has already decided to back himself by saying he his leaving Palace.

His record over the last couple of years is just what I think Everton need right now, but that's just my own opinion.

Any manager who has lost three players who would get into 90% of club teams anywhere in Europe (Eze, Elise and Guehi) and keep delivering (in the cups) has definitely got a lot of ability. This is why I'd love to see us showing ambition by trying to get a winning manager with real ambition.

Andrew Merrick
15 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:05:23
Nick 7, I think that's the case for the manager's current position.

But it is a reasonable presumption that TFG would review his long-term strategy before funding the coming transfer window, which would also mean having to consider his contract term.

I admit this is speculative, but our new owners do seem to be "on the money"!

Annika Herbert
16 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:21:47
Not too many good players will want to join Everton in the summer, knowing the first thing they will be shown is how to defend.

Stone and White are typical Moyes signings. Must have experience remember, regardless of whether they are actually very good.

What player is going to want to join a team who stick with a rigid, defensive system in every game? Not forgetting that you have to be one of Defensive Dave's lackies to be guaranteed a starting spot.

The stadium and our current league position doesn't change our managers outlook on the game. Playing on the front foot? No need for that kind of rubbish.
Ian Bennett
17 Posted 01/05/2026 at 22:35:46
Weren't White & Stones in the last England squad? Do we not want players good enough for a team likely to get to the latter stages of a World Cup?

Not very good? One could pick up 3 medals and the other a European Cup.

But, yeah, let's stick with Keane and Tarkowski.
Dale Self
18 Posted 02/05/2026 at 04:15:19
Tony 14, Glasner is better than a safe pair of hands. I can't crtitique the preferences of the locals, after what we have been through.

I guess my take is that Moyes has achieved what was needed from him. It's done. For what the personnel can offer, Moyes has these players programmed to mind their duties. Not only that, the traps are smart given our overall speed. We are as competent as can be expected on defence, excepting corners of course.

Now, who wants to present the claim that Moyes can himself develop into the manager whose attack schemes can break down the top Premier League defences? I can't.
Eric Myles
19 Posted 02/05/2026 at 04:54:21
Dale, our defense needs three, possibly four new players. I can see TFG sticking with Moyes to integrate them and build some defensive solidity before moving to an expansive attacking manager.

Plus, Moyes still has a year on his contract, so I don't see TFG spending unnecessary money on a pay-off when there's no panic.
Ajay Gopal
20 Posted 02/05/2026 at 05:09:37
Tony, Oliver Glasner would be a fantastic replacement for Moyes, and I believe he would consider managing Everton. It is up to TFG to seize the opportunity and make a bold decision.

Irrespective of whether Moyes stays or is replaced, I expect McNeil, Patterson, Barry, Coleman and Ndiaye to leave.

If Moyes stays, expect Grealish, Stones, Ake, Delap, and a winger (Bowen) to be signed. Hopefully Soucek is not on Moyes's list because that would surely hamper the development of Armstrong, Rohl, Iroegbunam, etc.

If someone like Glasner comes in, we can expect some younger, faster players and more chances for Dibling, Rohl, Alcaraz, Iroegbunam, and Aznou.
Eric Myles
21 Posted 02/05/2026 at 05:41:42
I'd guess that the decision has already been made.

With only a few weeks left of the season Moyes will have told the recruitment team what he needs in the way of players for next season and if that doesn't align with their / TFGs future plans they'll be talking to managers to take over asap.

Or they're looking for another season of stability and progress, and will back Moyes to carry on regardless.
Jimmy Carr
22 Posted 02/05/2026 at 07:25:33
Whilst I've been underwhelmed by our last two results, I can completely understand TFG's decision to stick with David Moyes next season, if indeed that occurs.

What could be interesting is how that plays out in the summer in terms of transfers. If TFG are committed to replacing Moyes at the end of his contract, how will they respond to the sort of players he may want to sign knowing he has only one season left? Hopefully this does not result in a disconnect between Moyes and the rest of the recruitment team.

I'm not going to lose any sleep about us not getting Glasner in as manager. He's done brilliantly at Palace but that doesn't mean he'll be a success at his next club, there are lots of examples of this, every managerial appointment is a risk and there'll be plenty of others available in the summer after next to lead us to the fabled Promised Land that certain ToffeeWebbers keep dreaming about, AKA mid-table!!

Btw Michael Kenrick, thanks for fixing the site, I was Dave Lynch the other day!!
John Williams
23 Posted 02/05/2026 at 09:47:25
Tony (10)
You are right, we would all like to be in the FA Cup Final.

When you look at Chelseas record in the Cup this year, I would have fancied the Blues to have made the final.
Chelsea only came in at the 4th round stage playing,
Hull City, Wrexham, Port Vale, then Leeds in Semi Final.

The draw has been very kind to them.
The people who came up, with allowing top teams to come in at the 4th round stage, should be dismissed from their roles.
John Collins
24 Posted 02/05/2026 at 10:06:21
Eric 21,

What progress?

We finished two places below our current position last season.

That progress?

Les Callan
26 Posted 02/05/2026 at 10:44:27
John @23.

I think that Chelsea beat Charlton in Round 3. Another easy one like, but they did play.

Michael Kenrick
27 Posted 02/05/2026 at 12:11:33
John @23,

That's a pretty bizarre post from a fan of English footie, claiming that Chelsea or any club comes in at the 4th Round of the FA Cup.

It's always been the 3rd Round -- for nigh-on a century -- starting with the 1925-26 season. Ask Dave about it, I'm sure he remembers it well.
Tony Abrahams
28 Posted 02/05/2026 at 12:15:36
I think it's the League Cup where teams in Europe don't come in until the later round, John. This is why you should always take every cup game seriously, simply because you don't know who you're going to get in the next round.

I remember losing to Wigan in the FA Cup Quarter-Final at Goodison, when Millwall were waiting for the winners in the semi-final at Wembley. There have been many cup capitulations during Moyes's time at Everton, way too many to mention unfortunately.
Liam Mogan
29 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:01:26
Moyes has managed over 1000 games and won one trophy (and a 3rd rate European one for also rans at that).

Whatever his pros and cons, that's pretty mediocre.
Ian Bennett
30 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:23:14
Quite right. How West Ham aren't winning the Champions League is a mystery really..
Liam Mogan
31 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:34:14
Moyes has been a manager for 28 years and won one trophy out of the 100 odd his teams have competed in.

Whatever the level, whatever the quality of the teams, the size of the club etc... he's a perennial loser.

We never have, and we never will, win anything with him. New owners, new ground, new broom please.
John Collins
32 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:54:09
Liam, we finished in 13th last season. We are currently 11th.

What's all this bollocks about "progress" we are being presented with?

Liam Mogan
33 Posted 02/05/2026 at 13:59:53
£100m + investment = no discernible change in results or excitement. 3 derbies since he came back. No wins, one point salvaged in last seconds. Great progress.

But at least Moyes wont get lumbered with players he doesn't want (although he has final say) as players who wouldn't come because we weren't in Europe last summer, will come this summer because Moyes has mentioned Europe in his pressers a few times.
Ian Bennett
34 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:23:29
Do you honestly think £100m will make a difference?

City have spent €2,000M under Pep, and that follows another €1,400M before he arrived.

£100M is fucking roundings mate. Their wage bill is four times ours.

Rinse and repeat for every other top club.
Kevin Molloy
35 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:24:32
Liam so you were expecting our relegation haunted team to immediately start beating the Champions once Dyche left?

A team which had scored 2 goals in 10 games. Is that not a little unrealistic?

Liam Mogan
36 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:30:41
£100M might not make a massive difference but neither does Moyes. Give him how much you want. He will never win anything at Everton.

He's got more backing than Dyche and a few before him, but no difference. The only reason there has been talk of Europe is because the Premeir League is a bunch of similar average teams. Moyes has not done anything.

His teams play awful boring football. He doesn't win trophies. A younger Roy Hodgson, an alternative Sam Allardyce. Talks absolute shite about players now wanting to come.

Think big, Everton, try something different. Nearly 15 years under Moyes. Nothing won. 'There have been good times' narrative. Enough is enough.
Liam Mogan
37 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:32:26
Not at all, Kevin @35. Just want something other than Moyes's persistent failure and excuses.

Rinse and repeat over neatly 30 years of management. Time for change.

Liam Mogan
38 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:35:37
The RS 'champions' have lost 10 league games this season. Good job our manager knows his place and doesnt expect to beat them. Progress.
Kevin Molloy
39 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:47:25
But Liam, were you not moaning that everything was rubbish two weeks ago when we were a handful of points off a CL spot?
We've had our best season in years, and you are spending all your time calling for a change of manager. To whom? Anybody. so, we'd enter the same raffle as West Ham, Spurs and Forest, you want to start that whole mess off again? How about a couple of years of stability, incremental progress, building up the squad, so that when we make our next appointment, we're not scrabbling around for the also rans..
John Collins
40 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:57:15
Fucked this club.
11th and it's our best season in years.
Celebrated as well.
Liam Mogan
41 Posted 02/05/2026 at 14:58:23
I was Kevin. I had no time for the hyperbole that was being pushed.

Tbf ive woken up this morning in a bad mood with a bad back and read the self-serving shite Moyes spouted yesterday. Laying prostate on the couch with nothing better to do than vent my frustrations.

Im calling for the manager to go because in 15 years managing this club he's failed. In 28 years as a manager he's failed. He is an average journeyman who fails.

And him and his football are dull and like watching paint dry. Can't do it anymore. Especially with a bad back and having to scale a feckin mountain to get to my seat.

I understand and respect the stability camp. I'm just not in it. Unless it was a base camp at the bottom of the East Stand and didnt have to nearly have a coronary most weeks. I'd probably change my tune then.
John Collins
42 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:00:04
Ian 34.

You would like to think spending more than £100 million would make more of a difference than moving from 13th to 11th
John Collins
43 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:28:47
Currently sitting 12th but Sunderland had a man sent off.
We can only hope the 10 men drop points to allow us back into the giddy heights of 11th
Dale Self
44 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:31:27
Eric 19, Fair points.

However, Glasner has had to replace Guehi and surely had an eye on what defenders were available. I would trust him to select and integrate available players with a better budget.

I believe Palace is a decent lab in which a promising manager can develop. Financial ceiling, required turnover to compensate for small gate revenue, working the press to get pressure on owners, all of the skills needed to push TFG towards a path of ambition.

If TFG choose to wait at this juncture, they are risking a hell of a lot of momentum the stadium was intended to provide.

Continuity and stability are desirable. Opportunities for making moves on the teetering top six are discrete and limited events. Make your choices and take your chances when available, or ride with Moyes and sit in the backseat behind the Padres.
Kevin Molloy
45 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:47:09
John
have you been abroad or like working on an oil rig for the last ten years?
you seem to have teleported here form 1987, when \\\\Everton expected to win things.
Mick O\\\'Malley
46 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:55:34
Crystal Palace won the cup last season, they are about to get to a final of a European competition, it breaks my heart to watch clubs like this enjoy success while we are stuck in some sort of doom loop, I grew up watching us win things,.we are one of the only set of fans in the country who've had fuckall to celebrate for years bar staying in the PL,
John Collins
47 Posted 02/05/2026 at 15:55:52
I expect them to TRY to win things Kevin.
Kevin Molloy
48 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:02:06
John
and how would you plot progress on that front? what measurements would you take ?
John Collins
49 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:04:27
Play entertaining,attack based football would be the first Kevin.
John Collins
50 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:11:45
Everton - Scores & Fixtures - Football - BBC Sport https://share.google/yVllgKaVUKgpCqrlb

Have a look through them,especially the home games,be honest with yourself.
How many of them would we have won with a more positive approach.
Liam Mogan
51 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:16:20
Mick 46 - you cant compare us with massive clubs like Palace who've been in and out the PL for 30 years and been relegated numerous times.

We've never been relegated so therefore shouldn't be expected to win a trophy or even a Merseyside Derby
Kevin Molloy
52 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:19:14
I note you say 'especially the home games' cos like up until a couple of weeks ago we had the best away record in the division since he took over.
We've been poor at home, no question. But it's not cos we're 'negative'. it's cos we've not played well. there are reasons for that, like having no fullbacks and a struggling forward. Plus horrendous injuries to our best players.
I find this relentless negativity on here hinders proper analysis of the positives and negatives of the season. Moyes has with the season coming to an end done well in certain areas, and not so well in others. but this all or nothing just obscures the picture. The transfers of last season definitely need a careful look, as do the team's form since we got back from the last break. but we don't seem to be able to have that debate, cos it's drowned out by 'he's shit, get rid!'.
Liam Mogan
53 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:24:14
He's shit, get rid
John Collins
54 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:25:53
That's why I said especially the home games Kevin.
My next measurement is your football I.Q.
Ian Bennett
55 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:26:16
42 - John spending £100m is the easy bit. Spending it on players that will make an immediate impact isn't.

I assume everyone is happy on the £27m or so on Dewesbury Hall, so the issue is the £73m spent on plsyers not at their playing peak.

So the feedback is buy players at 26 and above, as you want instant return.
Dale Self
56 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:28:20
Whoa! Mick has three slashes.

Shall we address you as Seargant Slash?
John Collins
57 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:28:24
My issue is the players he didn't spend any of the 73 million on Ian.
Starting with two full backs
Dave Abrahams
58 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:43:16
Liam (41) I don’t think you are alone being a fed up fan and frustrated with the poor quality of football that has been served up at the new ground this season, getting to your seat is another handicap to face, even when I get off the lift and walk up the first set of stairs that bring you into the stadium I have then got to walk up 58 bleedin’ steps to get to my spec, I think Sherpa Tensing would have second thoughts about climbing those steps, if you then faced watching some exciting attacking football with the team going all out to win it would be worthwhile and something to look forward to.

It’s been enough for one lifelong fan I know, he’s letting his nephew take over his ticket next season had enough of watching this Everton under the uninspiring football produced by Moyes, I think quite a few more are thinking the same.
John Collins
59 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:47:08
I'm not giving mine up Dave but your right.
Monday will be the 7th time this season I've give my ticket away.
Eric Myles
60 Posted 02/05/2026 at 16:56:48
John #24, the progress that TFG will expect to see next season if they back Moyes in the summer.
John Collins
61 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:02:52
Or they're looking for another season of stability and progress, and will back Moyes to carry on regardless.

"Another season" suggests you consider we have progressed this season Eric?
Kevin Molloy
62 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:03:06
Dave
so he stuck with Everton through the two games in ten games relegation dogfights, but it's this season in our new ground watching Grealish KDH Garner and Ndiaye that has broken him?
Merle Urquart
63 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:05:08
@59 John Collins

Im hoping to be in with a shout for a season ticket for next season...if this miserable fucker is still here, l think l'll pass...why the fuck did he get 3 yrs, 18mths would/should have been perfectly adequate!!!!
Eric Myles
64 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:10:52
Another season of stability John.

Merle, 2 1/2 years wasn't it?
Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:16:13
Kevin (62) He’s stuck through watching a good fifty years watching the good, bad and the ugly but the ultra defensive football produced by Moyes’s tactics has been too much for him although to be honest this type of football under Moyes hasn’t surprised him at all, he’s the fan who said to me outside Wembley after the 2-1 loss to Liverpool
“ we could have wrote the script for that game couldn’t we ?”

I don’t think he was over impressed with Jack to be honest although I imagine he would have been impressed with Garner and Ndiaye and sometimes KDH because he likes players who excite or are team players.
Liam Mogan
66 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:16:13
I couldn't bear to get into Europe.

2 Moyes press conference excusefests a week is twice as much bullcrap as I can take.
Merle Urquart
67 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:18:41
There was an problem which was resolved, we are now stuck with him for another season of soul destroying spirit crushing joyless plodding
Darren Hind
68 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:22:37
I think the season ticket waiting list and the speed at which it is diminishing will be a big factor in whether or not TFG smell the coffee and relieve Mr Brightside of his duties
John Collins
69 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:26:49
You mentioned progress from last season Eric,now its back to stabilty?
EFC are more stable than Everest Eric
More of the same next season,a mid table finish OK for you next season?
Liam Mogan
70 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:34:57
Stability is essential for chairs, tables and the like. Maybe Davey would be better off managing a Chair Company or a Table Emporium.

Rather than in the football entertainment industry.
Eric Myles
71 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:39:52
John #69, next season is where the p3ogrrss is expected, as I said before.
Eric Myles
72 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:47:03
More stable than Everest John?

And who do you have to thank for that considering when he took over we were 1 point from the relegation zone, had scored 2 goals in 10 games and failed to register a shot on target in the others.

But you'd have preferred we kept Dyche!
Mick O\\\'Malley
73 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:51:51
Liam agreed, big clubs like Palace, Swansea, Wigan, Birmingham have won trophies, we just stay in the.PL
Mick O\\\'Malley
74 Posted 02/05/2026 at 17:53:42
Dale what's going on with the slashes? This.site has some bugs
Ged Simpson
75 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:04:44
Jaysus. Nearly got into an environment Everest-stability debate.

But. that would have been 😜

Why? Well no real reason as if we could predict accurately, we would all be posting from Monaco, Crosby et al.

But for first time in 20 years I bet on us today.

But no issue. Be dead before a bookies tries that again in another 20 !

The prob with site now?

Now and then realise this could be, occasionally, self effacing fun rather than one post ending up with usuals feeling put-upon, vulnerable or needing to expand online muscles.

Like others. I recall Blue Kipper


Remember?
Merle Urquart
76 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:19:22
Had a few blue kipper nights in the Adelphi...spolit only by another miserable dour scottish git...Walter Smith...my God what a dullard...Moyes probably thought the sun shone out of his arse
Liam Mogan
77 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:23:43
I had a Blue Kipper once. Gave me the runs.
Dale Self
78 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:28:05
Mick, er Seargant, pay it no mind Sir.

The TW vibe shines through! Just look at these posts, Royal Blue (light on the royal there) spirit all the way up and down.

Seriously though, inheriting web architecture without rebuilding entirely is a delicate and difficult trick. I know next to fuckall about the details, but when you try to fix something in one module or segment of code, you don't know what you may knock loose elsewhere.

Previously, it was like Delph on the training table. Now, it is more like Branthwaite making his way back.

Have faith, avoid horseshit. Sir.
John Collins
79 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:34:57
You never answered my question Eric
Liam Mogan
80 Posted 02/05/2026 at 18:51:55
David Moyes walked into Man Utd and told Rio Ferdinand to watch videos of Phil Jagielka defending.

That sums him up.
Kevin Molloy
81 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:28:38
youre hardly a ray of sunshine yourself Merle.
Chris Leyland
82 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:32:37
I was a defender of Moyes until recently but it’s soul destroying knowing that every time we get a chance of doing something, dull, conservative Presbyterian Davey comes to the fore to ensure that we fail.It’s just what he does. It’s finally broken me!

Going to watch is at home is mind numbing as teams like Brentford, Newcastle and even shitty Spurs come and tear us a new one, whilst the shite, Man U and probably City on Monday walk off with the points as he’s defeated before it’s even kicked off with his infamous KITAP approach. Then there’s the home draws to West Ham, Wolves, Leeds - all predictable Moyes results when he fails to kill games off with his ‘settle for a draw’ mentality.

We need a fresh approach to move ahead as a club rather than this settle for mediocrity and the safety-first approach that Moyes brings. There’s just no joy in watching us and there won’t be whilst he remains in charge.
John Collins
83 Posted 02/05/2026 at 19:48:10
Chris,

I agree with all of your post.
We had a chance of CL at one time,hecdidnt godforsaken it at all.People can say that's unrealistic but not imo.If it's therecgo for it.We never beat liverpool by playing in a timid manner, he should have went for them aggressively, he had a free hand.
We won't even get Conference League now.
It's as if he is scared to be successful.
Ian Bennett
84 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:02:19
Again, the drum is being played on youth. When clearly most arent good enough to displace the current team.

Compare the Aston Villa approach. They've gone about things that has taken the club forward, have a good manager and are seeing the return in the league and Europe.

Their average age is 29. They have a deeper squad, but they have also had a lot of their players in their peak. Yes, a couple of emerging players, but mostly experienced players.

Per AI
As of May 2026, Aston Villa's typical starting lineup under Unai Emery has a high average age of approximately 28 to 29 years old. While the squad features established stars like Emiliano Martínez (33) and Ollie Watkins (30), it has also recently integrated younger players like Morgan Rogers (23) and Amadou Onana (24).

Onana is the one being dug out as letting the team down, and should be sold. Whilst Matsen is unconvincing.

Usual Starting XI and Ages (2025/26 Season)
Position Player Age
Goalkeeper Emiliano Martínez 33
Right-Back Matty Cash 28
Centre-Back Ezri Konsa 28
Centre-Back Pau Torres 29
Left-Back Ian Maatsen 24
Midfield Youri Tielemans 28
Midfield Amadou Onana* 24
Right Wing Leon Bailey 28
Attacking Mid Morgan Rogers 23
Left Wing John McGinn (C) 31
Forward Ollie Watkins 30

Add Digne, Mings, Buendia, Barkley, Abrahams, Barkley, lindeloff, bizot. All 29/30+.

Emery proves thst success on the pitch is what matters, and he is doing it with players with experience.
Kevin Molloy
85 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:06:09
Ian yes, Even if you know what you are doing with young players like Brighton, there is a price to be paid. Look at the massive dip they've had this season as the new kids settled in. there just isn't the patience within our fanbase to watch four months of draws and defeats and then a strong finish. Just look how gloomy everyone is after two losses and a draw in our last 3 games.
Chris Leyland
86 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:36:18
Kevin, 4 months of draws and defeats is what we are used to! We’ve won 2 out of our last 10 home games in the past 5 months, losing 5 (6 if you count the Sunderland loss on pens). We went 3 months during this time without managing a single home win. Yes, our away form has been better during this period but it’s the home matches that the match gounfvdanvase have to endure. It’s dull, it’s turgid and it’s done on the back of his safety first, experienced player preferences.
Kevin Molloy
87 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:57:56
The away form hasn't been 'better' Chris, it's been the best. from a team fighting relegation just last year. We also know that Moyes will sort out the home form. He's always been solid at home, but we've been hampered by the recruitment restrictions. We've had one summer window where we've had a budget in the last five years. I can't believe how quickly people have forgotten what a hole we were in. And also the gains we've made this year. The form of Beto O'Brien Keane and Garner have all been revelatory compared with what went before. We've also made a couple of brilliant signings in KDH and Grealish. And we've also had some terrible luck with injuries. Our best player? Out for the season. Our second best player? out for half a season. KDH Ndiaye and Gana, all out for months. They are our best players.
And up until the last couple of weeks we had the best away record in the laague. So those are significant wins.
And there are also questions. the home form, the recruitment last year, the form since the last break. Yes, we need to discuss these things, but why can't it be done calmly.
I've no doubt our home form will improve if we get a good run with our best players, and get a couple of good fullbacks. No doubt at all.
the recruitment is the biggest issue I have with Moyes. I've been giving him a pastor most of the season on this but the more I look at it now the more he has to carry the can here. If he chose the players, they've not worked out. and if he didn't pick them, he should have. He certainly shouldn't be leaving it to a dickhead like Angus. so this summer is key, he has to get the recuritment right, no excuses about players not wanting to come, That's bullshit. But even if we agree last year wasn't good, the players we need to move on can be moved on. the kids are none of them on big contracts like our previous disastrous windows. Dibling aint gonna be sitting on 200 grand a week. So we take the hit, and reinvest most of th money
Merle Urquart
88 Posted 02/05/2026 at 20:59:12
@81 Kevin

He's the fucking anti-christ to me, lve said it before he's given me the bulk of my worst moments as an Evertonian, a re-occuring nightmare which plays out over and over again...other than that l'm quite a pleasant up beat chap...when he took over again, the singer out of Peters and Lee could have got us out the smelly stuff by just doing the exact opposite of what Dyche was doing...the blind fella could have done it as well
Liam Mogan
89 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:06:32
The only thing we know for certain about David Moyes is that he's won one trophy in 28 years.

He's not interested in cups, not because he prioritises the league, but because he knows deep down that he can't win them.

His home form has been crap this season. His football as dull as ever. That's what we know.

Just go Dave. Bore some other fanbase.
Kevin Molloy
90 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:29:41
Merle yes, a lot of water under the bridge. thing is, one thing we can agree on. He won't be here long term. this is a transition job.
Merle Urquart
91 Posted 02/05/2026 at 21:39:29
He'll be here long enough to waste another season
Don Alexander
92 Posted 02/05/2026 at 22:11:28
There is nothing at all IMO to expect he can, aged 63 as he now is, suddenly discover any aptitude at all for a more expansive successful-to-fans spectacle on the pitch.

It's ridiculous that only Ferguson and Wenger have managed more games than our very own extremely wealthy bullshitter. He must surely have largely been employed by, and been fundamentally complicit with, a totally self-serving (to the cost of our club's status and attractiveness in the "football world") shithouse.

Friedkin THIS summer needs to show the extent of his/their ambition,

Financially they're probably doing OK this season - but do they want to do better?

Like us fans do?
Anthony Dwyer
93 Posted 02/05/2026 at 23:09:44
Let's bring back Lampard and play expansive football with 11 lads who can barely find the net even in Cup games against lower league opposition!
I'm sure some on here believe we bring in a new manager and all of a sudden Mcneil and Co turn into goalscoring sensations like there were under the past 4 or so managers.
Eric Myles
94 Posted 03/05/2026 at 01:41:31
Kevin #62, some fans are pathological where Moyes is concerned, so cutting off their nose to spite their face is a given.
Eric Myles
95 Posted 03/05/2026 at 01:53:34
Darren's post @68 bears that out also. People are taking their names off the waiting list for season tickets 'cos they don't like Moyes, even though they know he has only one season left on his contract. WTF?
Paul Griffiths
96 Posted 03/05/2026 at 02:36:28
“That’ll be the challenge for us. I found it difficult to attract players last summer because of that. The difference now is that Everton have been close this year. People have had the chance to see the new stadium and a full house at all the games, so there are a lot of things to be positive about.”

‘Improvement’! ‘Improvement’ my rather shapely rear end.

We are currently hovering in 11th position playing shite footy for the most part with a reasonable chance, I suppose, of dropping down a place on Monday.

We finished 12th last season Mr. Moyes and in this, your first season of your second spell where you alone have been in charge, there is a danger that we might end up below 12th.

Woooh Mr. Moyes! The major players will be queuing up at our door: ‘Please, please, I want to join the project’.

No reason to have any expectations that our home form will improve and no reason to think that our away form will dip if it does.

Also, is there any real reason to think that our ace recruitment team will do a better job this summer.

Just being ‘pragmatic’ and ‘realistic’ IB and KM.
Eric Myles
97 Posted 03/05/2026 at 06:54:03
Ian #84, stop injecting facts and common sense into a debate about Moyes, you know it doesn't go down well with those who have entrenched views on him.
Darren Hind
98 Posted 03/05/2026 at 07:22:35
Ian @84

You are doing what you always do. You cant answer the charges against Moyes being a boring negative twat, so you create a whole new straw man argument that you think you can answer.

Congratulations on all those hours of google research. That might impress the likes of Eric, but what has Villa's signing got to do with Moyes being a boring Fucker ?

Where are all these people "playing the drum about youth" that you are raging against ??
Dave Abrahams
99 Posted 03/05/2026 at 08:37:13
Kevin (87) Kevin you say you have given Moyes a Pastor this season, Kevin you could give him the Pope or St. Peter himself but they won’t change his ways— he’s infallible at sticking to his boring system.
Tony Abrahams
100 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:06:08
A genuine story Eric, is that my brother walked out of the stadium at half time against Burnley, a few weeks ago, (and this was one of the more enjoyable games for some fans) and when I saw him a few days later, I was laughing and saying to him that he had jumped the gun because things improved during the second half.

He just said he was getting really wound up watching that boring shite and he definitely wasn’t alone, because he reckoned there was quite a few others who did exactly the same thing.

We are playing Man City tomorrow night. It’s a huge game but I just can’t garner enough excitement, if I’m being totally honest, and will probably just watch the game on TV.
Darren Hind
101 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:22:39
Be careful there Tony, mate.

You are letting this bBoring fucker sour a lifetime of devotion. Reading this, it sounds very much as if you are not alone.

I've seen many people losing their love of going the game. Once it's lost, it doesn't come back.

He'll be gone soon enough.
Kevin Molloy
102 Posted 03/05/2026 at 09:44:09
Haha, Dave.

I don't think the Pope would be a very welcome present for Davy!

Brian Denton
103 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:37:07
Don (92),

I suspect if you offered TFG 8th place, no trophies and no relegation struggles for the next 20 years, they'd bite your hands off.

As unfortunately would many of our fan base, at least as represented on ToffeeWeb.
Kevin Molloy
104 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:41:01
I don't think that's true Brian. I reckon after 2-3 8th place finishes the fanbase would be expecting progress further up the table.
Liam Mogan
105 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:41:43
Now we have Wayne Rooney defending Moyes, in his conversation with that lad who looks like a Siamese Cat from the cringe fest that was This City is Ours.

Apparently, David Moyes knows what Everton supporters wants and criticism of the manager’s style of plays “does my head in.”

“Everton fans want you to get the ball forward, get the ball out wide, get the ball out wide with crosses into the box, be aggressive, go and win tackles. If you go to the stadium now, when a forward goes and makes a tackle on a full-back, there’s a bigger cheer then than when there’s a goal – they want to see fights.”

Well you need to tell your mate Moyes this, rather than talk shite, as what your mate has served up this season doesnt resemble the above in any way.

Also, your talking rubbish wig-head. There are not bigger cheers for tackles than for goals. Thats just sitting in a cafe chatting bollocks with condescending RS professional scousers.

Fed up of this crap we are being shovelled down our throats. Know your place, be thankful for Dave, don't try and succeed, let the RS laugh at you dogshit.
John Collins
106 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:45:45
Ian 84.

Average ages.
Bournemouth 25
Brighton 25
Brentford 26

All above us in the table.
Ian Bennett
107 Posted 03/05/2026 at 10:48:26
I thought you were a student of the game, Darren?

The comparison in clubs is absolutely valid, as theyre very similar institutions, facing the same challenges.

Both have gone through the ringer, both showing the signs of stability on and off the field. When we were in the shit with 777 etc, Villa were quietly moving forward, and are consequently years ahead despite being promoted not too long ago.

But back to the game. A manager can only play with what he has in the squad. And we look better when we have our best available 11. I assume youd agree that we look better with Branthwaite in the side?

Well keep going with that. Villa are achieving because the squad has far more players at the level, to deliver in the here and now, than us. Id assume youd agree with that?

They have a good keeper, a good striker, a lot of creative goal scoring midfielders and a competent defence. We might beat them in a one-off game, but they have a far better squad over the season.

Does Emery play free flowing football? Does he fairy cakes. He plays a similar style to Moyes, but he has better quality - a reliable striker, full backs that can get forward, a defence that is quick & can play the high line, and midfielders that score and create.

The strawman as you put it, is in response to those that demand Aznou, Rohl, Dibling in the side, and that turn their face up at experuence in Stones, White, and previously Mctominlay. Those that want to play more attacking football, but fail to grasp we are still short in that area, with a current defence that cant play much further forward than the 18 yard box, and where the team typically doesnt win if it concedes first.

Sacking managers at Everton, whilst the squad isn't up to snuff is a waste of time. It just papers over the cracks of the players that you have, that don't deliver and never will.

Is Tarkowski, Keane, Mcneil, Mykolenko, Obrien suddenly going to be world class when Moyes goes? No they're not. Theyre mid table players, in a mid table team.

If they were all top 4 players and he was under achieving with that, then fair enough. But they arent.

If you want better, you need to buy better than that, regardless of who is in the dugout. Then judge the manager.
Darren Hind
108 Posted 03/05/2026 at 13:29:13
I am a student of the game, Ian. Have been ever since I can remember.

I have a thirst for knowledge, especially where Everton are concerned, but I have no have no appetite for ill-informed stats or the sort of inconsequential babble you spend hours researching in your relentless quest to defend Moyes from criticism -- especially when you defend him from criticism that hasn't even been levelled at him -- see this thread.

Now that you have accepted that this thread was never about youth. You have now tried to tell us Emery plays a similar style to boring Mr Brightside. He doesn't. In fact he approaches the game very differently. You don't need to be a student of the game to know that.

Anyone with a passing interest would be able to tell you that one of them goes out to win games, while the other focuses entirely on not losing them.

I'm guessing you are now trying to figure out which is which?
Liam Mogan
109 Posted 03/05/2026 at 13:42:01
There is no way that the style of football Unai Emery has delivered at Villa is anything like Moyes's approach at Everton, both Mk1 and Mk2.

He's also won 11 trophies in 20 odd seasons as a manager. Gets to finals and mostly wins them.

Emery is about as far from the expert in failure as is possible.
Ian Bennett
110 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:04:46
Not really, Darren, theyre similar, because their numbers are similar.

The plus-5 goal difference of Emery for the season tells me he isn't free flowing at all from 34 matches.

It was nice to paint that he is, but the facts don't back it up, my old china.

With way better players, a centre-forward that can score, Villa only have 6 more goals than Everton in 34 matches.
John Collins
111 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:21:14
Ian,

Moyes and Emery are not similar when you look at each of their trophy cabinets.
Liam Mogan
112 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:38:02
Emery is also not as boring as Dave and wears better clobber.
Darren Hind
113 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:46:31
Ian,

You do make me laugh with your ability to ignore facts and official records while trying to peddle your carefully selected stats.

On 58 points, Emery is over the hill and far away from Moyes. Many of his players are inferior to Moyes's. He would snatch your hand off for players of the quality of Branthwaite, Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall, Grealish, O'Brien, Garner. He would certainly have made far better use of Dibling, Alcaraz and Rohl.

If you care to look at Liam's post @109, you'll get a rough idea as to how far away from the truth you are. Unfortunately for you, Liam backs it up with facts while you stumble around in the dark trying to counter it with yet more irrelevant stats.

BTW, the "centre-forward that can score" has got three more Premier League goals than Beto. A gap that would almost certainly have closed if Beto had gotten anywhere near as many starts.

Ian Bennett
114 Posted 03/05/2026 at 14:59:53
Darren, your proving my point in 84.

Emery is achieving success with senior players, playing a conservative game.

Good to have you on board, and I don't disagree on Beto. Looked a lot better since Christmas.
Darren Hind
115 Posted 03/05/2026 at 15:22:36
I hate to break this to you, Ian, but you didnt have a point.

If you wanted to show Moyes in a decent light. Trying to compare him to Emery was never going to be the right way of going about it.

You might want to try comparing him to a manager who has failed in as many competitions as him

Good luck
Oliver Molloy
116 Posted 03/05/2026 at 15:57:50
Well I'm in the "Moyes Out" corner for quite some time.
I would be over the moon if these owners pulled the plug this season, but I don't think it will happen - now if we fail to win any of our remaining games !!

Moyes v's Emery ?
Well the latter is obviously miles ahead in winners medals, absolutely does not set his teams up to play like Moyes - he goes out to win the game ( most of the time ), has won a load of trophy's at various different clubs with different budgets !
There are zero comparisons.
Ask any neutral ( never mind Everton fans ) who would they rather have as manager and our guy wouldn't get many votes !
Ian Bennett
117 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:08:23
I don't know Darren, there's a couple points in there.

you think a manager with a plus 5 goal difference plays free flowing football.

Despite the cat calling over the Grealish loan, you have him down as a quality player. No doubt torn that you don't want to pay the wages, nor him being a success elsewhere.

You think we have 6 quality players in total, of which a 1/3rd is injured.

You seem to rate Beto.

You seem surprised that Villa are over the hill and far away, when they were building, we were imploding.

Moyes lives in your head rent free, as ive not mentioned his name in any of my posts.

Not as good aa the last bank holiday mind. That was gold.
John Collins
118 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:27:17
Oliver.
There are a few on ToffeeWeb who would choose Moyes over Emery.
Tony Abrahams
119 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:31:10
Don’t kid yourself Oliver, because I’m sure there are plenty of Evertonians, who would definitely vote for Moyes, given the choice mate.

It’s highly embarrassing comparing the two managers, imo, because only for PSR, then my own view is that Aston Villa, might have been challenging for the premier league, this season.

I have watched four English teams play PSG, in the champions league in the last fifteen months. Liverpool twice, Arsenal, Chelsea and Villa, and my own opinion is that if you were to ask the PSG fans, who gave them their hardest test, then I’m certain that at least three quarters of them would say it was Aston Villa.

I had a good day at the football yesterday, watching Cambridge, get promoted Darren, and although it wasn’t a very good game, it turned out to be a very good occasion, so whilst I take your point and agree with you, I think I’m going to pass on going to Bramley Moore, tomorrow night.

I’ve just checked the fixtures and it will be the sixth game I will have missed, I then looked a little bit closer and thought about the games that I have genuinely enjoyed. Brighton because of the occasion, the second half against Palace. Forest and Chelsea, and even though we lost, I thought the atmosphere against Liverpool, showed me that if Everton, can get a positive manager, and a few more good players, then anything could be possible because of those incredibly passionate fans, who absolutely love the club.
Liam Mogan
120 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:44:01
I'd choose Dick Emery over Moyes
John Collins
121 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:46:47
Oooooh.
You are awful Liam
Darren Hind
122 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:47:15
I have always liked Jack Grealish as a player. I just wasnt having any of the nonsense you spouted about his contract.

I think we have 9-10 very good players. I just listed the ones I believe would get in the Villla side. I could easily have added Pickford - Incidentally; Ross Barkley started for them tonight.

Beto has surprised me, lately, but I can see his limitations. I like him, but I only mentioned him really to illustrate that Ollie Watkins form this season has hardly been the difference between the two sides.

Moyes does not live in my head. In fact I don't believe he would get much of a mention if people didnt feel the need to refute the relentless stream of apologetic pap put up by people like you. kevin Molloy and Eric - "I`m no apologist" - Myles. The battles are far more interesting than the man himself.

I'll let you into another secret while I'm at it, Ian. You may think that by not mentioning Moyes by name, you are discussing broader issues, but anyone reading your posts will see you furiously apologising and defending him against charges that havent even been levelled at him.
Liam Mogan
123 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:47:54
But you like it, John!
Ian Bennett
124 Posted 03/05/2026 at 19:58:27
Moyes does not live in my head. In fact I don't believe he would get much of a mention if people didnt feel the need to refute the relentless stream of apologetic pap

Haha, who you trying to kid.
Darren Hind
125 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:05:48
Slogan for you Ian

Dont spout shite and you wont be put right
Liam Mogan
126 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:13:47
Moyes is in my freaking head this weekend. Must be the mix of demazepam and laphroig.

In your head, in your head
Moysie, Moysie, Moysie-ie-ie
What's in your head, in your head?
Moysie, Moysie, Moysie-ie-ie-ie, oh
Ian Bennett
127 Posted 03/05/2026 at 20:53:16
Slogans? fucking hell, youre better than that surely.

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