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Sometimes, you don’t change because things are going badly. You make a change because there’s an opportunity to be better.
From the outside, few would think David Moyes should be facing any scrutiny or questions over his position as Everton manager.
Since Moyes took charge for his second stint at Everton in January of last year, the Toffees have accrued 80 points from 55 games — the ninth-most in the Premier League in that time.
Moyes has had to oversee leaving Goodison Park, the start of a rebuild (which will need longer than one summer transfer window), and the move to a new stadium.
All the while, he has made Everton competitive again. They have now surpassed their points tally from last season, and could yet add seven onto that total, should they win their last two matches.
But that does not tell the whole story.
While I do not think there can be any reason to move on from Moyes due to points tallies, or the results in general, there are other factors to consider.
Moyes is heading into the final year of his contract. That does not have to be an issue, as such, but it does begin to raise questions over the club’s longer term plans.
At 63, is Moyes really the manager that Everton’s ownership — and the CEO they have put in place, Angus Kinnear — see taking the Toffees forward?
Then, there is Moyes’s use of the squad, and in particular, the new signings from last summer. Jack Grealish and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall were instant hits, but of the other recruits, discounting the two back-up goalkeepers, all of whom were signed when they were aged 23 or under, only Thierno Barry has seen significant game time.
I do not see the huge rush for some of those players, but that does not mean Moyes has done a good enough job in managing his squad, keeping players fresh, or giving the younger players more time on the pitch. A few things can be true at once, and that is the case here.
Moyes has made it clear all season: He wants Europe. Ultimately, if Everton fail to hit that aim, that will be on him and the players as much as anybody, for their failings in recent weeks. However, as I have written in other pieces, there should also be a recognition that the club elected against pushing the boat out for signings in the winter transfer window.
While we can all be disappointed at how the end of the season is turning out, there has been progress. But sometimes, changing from a position of strength can be the right option, especially if there is an opportunity — the kind that may not come around again soon.
Andoni Iraola has worked wonders at Bournemouth. After a tough start to his tenure in 2023-24, there is a very real possibility that the Spaniard will leave the Vitality Stadium at the end of the season, having taken the Cherries into Europe. It could be even better — if they finish 6th, and Aston Villa were to finish 5th and win the Europa League, Bournemouth would be a Champions League team next season.
It would be a hell of a legacy for Iraola to leave.
He has been linked with both the Manchester United and Chelsea jobs, but it is Crystal Palace who have made their move. They want Iraola to succeed Oliver Glasner.
So, the question is, should Everton be in the mix?
According to the ever reliable Bobble, on A View From The Bullens, Iraola would be open to holding talks with Everton, should they show an interest.
The stars have not quite aligned, as it would be incredibly harsh, and likely quite risky, to move away from Moyes now. It would also be expensive.
But can you look a gift horse in the mouth, and turn it away?
Moyes has done nothing to deserve the sack. He has done a very good job. But Iraola is potentially a world class, long-term coach. One that could well fit into the vision TFG seemingly has for Everton.
There has been an onus on recruiting younger players, and Iraola, unlike Moyes, is much more willing to trust youth.
Moyes is of course willing to play younger players too, but he does keep them on a shorter leash and is more ruthless when they make mistakes. Look at Dwight McNeil, James Tarkowski and Micheal Keane — playing time and time again despite numerous poor performances. It’s fair to say Moyes is stuck in his ways and isn’t going to change in that regard.
Iraola is certainly a bit less pragmatic than Moyes, but a look at the expected goals against (xGA) statistics, via Opta Analyst, show that Everton actually are slightly worse than Bournemouth, who are significantly better than the Toffees going the other way.
Making Iraola’s achievements even more impressive is the squad churn at Bournemouth. Last summer, the Cherries sold their two first-choice centre-backs, to Paris Saint-Germain and Real Madrid, respectively, no less, and then they sold attacking talisman Antoine Semenyo to Manchester City in January.
Since Semenyo’s departure, Bournemouth have not lost a game in the Premier League. They are on a 16-match unbeaten streak; it’s extraordinary.
Now, Iraola’s team did go on a 10-game winless run before that, but then before that, they went nine unbeaten.
Bournemouth are by no means an amazing team; they have their flaws. And there is a world of difference between managing a club the size of the Cherries, and then stepping up to Everton. The pressure and expectations are totally different.
I am not for one second saying Everton should take the gamble. The squad is still in need of a rebuild and throwing a new manager into the mix now is not a guaranteed recipe for success, especially with how swiftly the tide can turn in the Premier League. I would be perfectly happy for Moyes to stay in charge for the remainder of his contract, and possibly even earn another year’s extension.
But, if Everton did decide to be opportunistic at this unique moment when a potentially much more dynamic manager is coming available, then there is certainly logic to it.
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2 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:17:09
3 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:23:34
If he goes to a 'big club' and does well then he's out of our reach forever, or at least until he's past his best. If he's 'open to talks' then sit down with him and make a sensible offer, as said, he'd definitely give our young players a better opportunity.
Moyes has done a good job for us and I wouldn't get rid for just anyone, but Iraola looks like he could become a genuinely top manager. And he's still hungry.
4 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:27:39
Asked why he had decided to leave Bournemouth at the end of his third season at Vitality Stadium, Iraola said: “It has been a decision that has taken me a lot of time to take.
“It has not been a clear decision. Always during this process, this season, I've been talking to the club about the situation.
“They were very aware that this could happen and there is not always one main reason.
“I think the decision I've taken is because probably I don't want to risk the feeling I have right now of pride and satisfaction of these three seasons.
“And you try to envisage yourself in a possible fourth season, in a possible fifth season. Everything costs more.
“We, as human beings, get tired of always watching the same faces. And I suppose I've decided that this was the right moment to put an end to this journey that for me has been really, really special.
“The club is in a great place. I have things in this club that I will not find anywhere else. I come to work every day with a smile and this is very valuable for me.
“But as managers, you learn because you have experience as a player, you've had a lot of managers, you have to choose very well when to start, where to start, when to end things.
“And it's not a decision that I had super-clear. Sometimes, I've been thinking, ‘oh, I definitely am continuing here'. Other times ‘I'm not continuing here'. It's a matter of feeling.
“There is a moment where you have to take a decision. And this is the decision I've taken.
“I suppose I prefer to make the mistake of ‘maybe I could have stayed one year more', but I don't want to make the mistake of ‘it was one year too much' and there is a small margin that you are playing with and this is what it is.”
5 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:49:04
6 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:49:12
There are obviously plenty of rumours as to where he might be going, many saying he is going back to the club where he spent 12 years: Athletic Bilbao. Other rumours have suggested Chelsea or Crystal Palace... I don't think he would fancy either.
I know him and Moyes went out to dinner when both clubs were in America for pre-season. I wonder, would Moyes move upstairs and let Iriola take over the first team? I have said for a while we need someone to oversee our whole coaching set-up from the youngsters right up to the U21s. I think Moyes would be perfect for that job.
But I think the deal for Iriola is already done... and alas, I don't think that deal includes Everton.
7 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:52:55
We can't however get ourselves into this mindset that any kind of change going forward now is bad for the club.
We have become a fanbase that is always thinking of the catastrophic worst-case scenario, we have become that mentally scarred by relegation battles over the years that many just want to feel a constant comfort blanket.
The new stadium should really be signalling now the birth of a new 21st Century Everton Football Club and should be the dawn of a new era.
This club has been to one Cup Final in 31 years, for heaven's sakes, is that really the standard we want now?
8 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:54:10
“We, as human beings, get tired of always watching the same faces."
Tell me about it!
9 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:03:36
None of the big clubs are looking for a manager apart from Chelsea who want Alonso. After that, I can only think of Crystal Palace looking to replace Glasner (who is my Number 1 choice).
10 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:04:41
He doesn't generally have much contact with anyone under 21, Brian.
11 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:11:01
Are you sure, John?
My source at Finch Farm says it's almost a daily occurrence that U21 players are knocking on his door and asking him if they can get a name.
Trouble is, doesn't matter who they are or how good they are, he always says No.
12 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:11:27
Answer: I don't think so... he just never talks like a winner. He knows how to survive... but is that all Everton fans want? I hope not!
I've worked with big stars in sport and the difference in winners and people who are content with making a good living is there for all to see.
Sadly, Moyes has too much scar tissue to take us forward... so what options do we have?
13 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:11:42
There's a few young managers out there -- we all know who they are -- who look like they're going places... We'll likely crack on with our thumb up our arse!
14 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:12:44
He then spent 3 years with Rayo Vallecano in Spain, got them promotion, they wanted him to continue there but he left when his contract was up.
Leeds wanted him while he was manager of Rayo Vallecano but he joined Bournemouth and has done well there. He is obviously ambitious and is moving on while his stock is high, which could be one reason, or maybe he knows and believes in his talent.
If he joins Everton and improves them, he will be in demand again. Let's see how it turns out. I wouldn't be against Iraola who is well regarded by many people in the game, including the Man City manager.
His ambition and talent could benefit the Blues and especially us fans who want to see more entertainment than is being provided by the present manager and his coaches.
15 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:23:24
1. Everton have been poor for almost 40 years. We were nearly relegated on four occasions. We are no longer elite, despite a glitzy new stadium which flatters to deceive. We can no longer attract the very best players -- which you need to win trophies.
2. Incompetent as Kenwright was, he was at least visible and motivated. The new owners are invisible, are yielding minimal funds, and just view the club as an asset on the balance sheet.
3. West Ham fans felt the same way about Moyes as many on here do. Look at them now.
4. As hard as it is to hear, why would Iraola move from Bournemouth, a well-run club that perpectually over-achieves, to Everton, a dubiously-run club that perpectually under-achieves? He'd be sacked within a year.
5. Moyes will not see Everton relegated, his natural caution will allow the club to slowly grow and develop. Next season, I think he'll get us into Europe which will help us attract better players.
We need a slow, steady, incremental growth. There's too much of this short-termism -- sacking managers, sacking prime-ministers, change, change, try-again etc...
The culture of game shows (Traitors; Celebrities in the Jungle) has permeated the way people think. Kendall needed years to get there, so did Ferguson. Hang on in there.
16 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:25:24
17 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:27:42
Moyes isn't in the early part of his managerial career and probably hasn't the energy or inclination to see himself still managing Everton in 10 years time.
We didn't actually win anything under him the first time either but he's a damn good manager and nobody can take away his record of moulding battle-hardened groups of players who give everything.
The amount of unfair decisions that have cost us this season add up to a European place... but the squad we have is so average in certain areas that the notion of a European charge seems so short-lived -- like the prospect of an FA Cup or winning the Premier League.
Yeah, we might get in it but, with the squad we have, we're not winning anything. Not having the presence of owners to stick two fingers up to after bad games isn't really on our list of priorities or theirs, I imagine.
18 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:29:07
This doesn't sound to me like a manager who is there for a long tenure. He seems like a climber who wants to reach the summit -- nothing wrong with that, but it likely leaves you looking for a new manager in 3 years time again.
The more interesting fact is, we have seen these managers do very well with so-called lesser teams. When they move to the big teams, they crash and burn. Making smaller steps is the correct way to do it, but of course the opportunity may never come along again.
19 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:35:07
He must be questioning how much he can actually do within that 2 season window, having seen the club's Champions League aspirations stolen away by Iraola and his depressingly impressive Bournemouth team.
Can he cope with another season of mediocrity -- mixed with fortunes stolen from us by officials? From that happy retirement back into this, can he really be that bothered to stay on?
Either way, the club should be speaking with Iraola now when he's available. I imagine that trying to coax him away from a club in 12 months time would be expensive.
20 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:37:11
Why spend 3 years at a club building it up and getting it on the verge of Champions League football to just leave? Doesn't make sense...
21 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:39:52
I would go for Iraola in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the 30% of Moyesie has got too large to ignore with several what appear to be easy fixes ignored over the last several games (apart from Chelsea).
We need a more dynamic manager; a lot of the answers are in the squad already but don't get utilised.
22 Posted 13/05/2026 at 11:46:17
Look at Bournemouth and their position, on 15 or so games unbeaten (could be more).
Quality players -- not centre-backs playing at right-back or safety-first crap.
Positive press conferences instead of the usual dumbing down. (I can't watch Moyes in his pressers.)
But Daniel the Absent won't have even considered a change. Mid-table ‘stability' is achieved. Rinse and repeat next season.
23 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:06:27
It's great selling players and making money but if that's the prime reason for existing, then of course you would get tired of seeing the same faces -- who keep taking away your best players!
24 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:08:16
Is a very different statement to “is open to talks and Everton are interested”.
Does Bobble have info of the latter or is it just supposition?
25 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:16:58
'Incompetent as Kenwright was, he was at least visible and motivated."
He was motivated to fill his arse pocket up.
26 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:21:03
Even if he was here 3 years then that would be the longest stretch any manager had here since Roberto Martinez left 10 long years ago.
If in that time Iraola had got the club into a similar position as Bournemouth are now, playing football with fast incisive athletic players and threatening the top 5 clubs, then so be it.
Football is also about cycles and the next installment if Iraola left us, who knows what manager will be making a name for himself after that?
People may laugh but I still think Frank Lampard will make a really good manager in time. He's still a young gaffer really.
I appreciate Moyes in all be does, he was definitely the right man to end our stay at Goodison and it has in many ways felt like unfinished business.
But the conundrum now for TFG would be, if they back Moyes and stick with him until say January or the halfway point of about 19 games next season, the options that may be available this summer could well no longer be out there.
27 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:26:48
What I like about him, he has no problem making changes early, unlike Moyes, who'll bring on the same subs, late in the game. We've taken 3 points in our last 5 games, and Moyes has made one change in the starting 11.
He won't take us to the next level, we need a younger manager with ambition... Iraola for me. I don't understand the criticism -- his contract is up, and he wants to manage a bigger club?
28 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:43:55
Sorry, I mean in the Premier League.
29 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:44:04
Otherwise, prepare yourself for slow, steady, incremental growth to 8th place over the next 3 years under Moyes.
30 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:50:02
You're joking right?
31 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:52:10
Isn't that why Glasner is leaving Palace also? So no point Iraola going there if that's the case.
32 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:52:37
How many 29-year-olds would Moyes be allowed to recruit to the Academy in this new role?
33 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:56:22
That's why I think Brian must be joking.
Also, having Moyes mould the philosophy of the club in his own image?
34 Posted 13/05/2026 at 12:57:58
35 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:00:27
Would I be excited by his appointment? Yes.
Do I think it will happen? No.
36 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:23:07
The dilemma for Friedkin is that I doubt we will have a situation where 2 such managers are "available" at the same time with no need to buy out their contracts with another club.
It's really move on now or stick with Moyes for the next few seasons I fear.
Also can people please stop doing the "look at West Ham" thing. Moyes left Man Utd too and they won stuff when he did. It's not about him it's about the club and supporting the new manager with the structure that works for him.
I think it'll take time to unpick the legacy Moyesness if that is the route the club goes down. (finger crossed). If they do, any thought of send Moyes upstairs as I have read in other posts should only be to clean the bird shit off the roof
37 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:46:55
Sometimes, managers I think just get lucky. The most important position in a club is the one who recruits the players -- after all, it's the players who have to come up with the action on the field.
38 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:50:25
"The amount of unfair decisions that have cost us this season add up to a European place"
So we're back to Moyes is just plain unlucky then?
39 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:55:29
Well, Moyes has played O'Brien and Garner in the right-back slot... none of them ever played there before, so that is bad management.
For the right midfield or wing (whatever you want to call it), we have: Ndiaye, McNiel, Grealish and Röhl. Not one of them play there -- all makeshift.
Every team attack this side knowing its weaknesses, so really we are playing with 9 men in their correct positions... this is also bad management.
Come on... Moyes is poor.
40 Posted 13/05/2026 at 13:59:36
Man Utd. Champions in the season before Moyes took the job. Moyes gets them to 7th in his only season. Minus 25 points from the season before.
The season after Moyes got sacked, they got back to Champions League qualification.
41 Posted 13/05/2026 at 14:10:56
Not afraid to play youngsters. Not afraid of the ‘big clubs'.
Ambitious and wants to be successful, hence leaving the ceiling that Bournemouth imposes. What's not to like? Why wouldn't you give him a go?
Oh yes, we need to stabilise, tread water, not get ahead of our relegation feared selves. Limit our expectations and not get carried away.
The risk is that Bournemouth have a good recruitment team who furnish him with a flow of talent. We don't.
42 Posted 13/05/2026 at 14:42:19
For as well as we have played this season, there is still a massive rebuilding job to be done at Everton as long as Davey Moyes is in alignment with Kinnear and the rest of the recruitment team, I can see no reason to make a change at this moment.
As far as the criticism that Moyes does not give enough chances to younger players i.e Dibling, Aznou, George, Armstrong and the like. I think all were signed under an enlightened policy of developing talented young players.
Apart from Armstrong they are all a bit different for the style of play we have had the last few seasons. Aznou is an out and out wingback, Dibling is never a winger, he's more of a forward midfielder. George like Aznou is very talented lacks positional discipline.
He will use them when they are ready…
43 Posted 13/05/2026 at 14:43:59
But that's not likely to happen either.
44 Posted 13/05/2026 at 14:45:00
Our recruitment team can't see past their noses.
45 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:05:31
" Moyes is a very good manager who keeps his teams competitive."
In what mate?
46 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:06:30
Has the Eddie for Everton boat now sailed?
47 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:16:48
48 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:18:52
The only worry for me would be recruitment, as we all know this is something Bournemouth do very well... but could he get this team and possible new players we recruit (bang average) to play his way in this pressure cooker?
With Moyes, one thing is guaranteed: no matter how poor the recruitment, he gets them working their socks off, which has undoubtedly improved us from Dyche and many others, despite what some say.
Personally, I'd take the chance if it's there? But I wouldn't be surprised if, in a year's time, everyone wants him out. I also agree with others who think he's already got an agreement in place… my money would be on Man City with miserable Pep moving on.
49 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:29:53
Why would we go for a manager who has finished below us with a better squad?
50 Posted 13/05/2026 at 15:45:13
Moyes will continue with his dour, defensive style, signing large, slow and not very skilled players like Zirkzee. We're being gaslit about the great job Moyes is doing; no he's not, he's fractionally better than Dyche.
People banging on about where West Ham are now, well the West Ham fans I know still wouldn't have him back. Just because they've messed up since he left, doesn't mean we would. I'd happily take the chance anyway; we may see some positive football and have some hope of us winning something.
Moyes is on over £5M, Iraola is reportedly on £1.2M! Why do we do it to ourselves???
51 Posted 13/05/2026 at 16:04:33
The 2 managers I wanted 12 months ago were Thomas Frank (yes I know Spurs was a disaster), or Michael Carrick. Not gonna happen now unfortunately.
52 Posted 13/05/2026 at 16:23:17
As much as I commend Moyes for stabilising the club and removing the spectre of relegation from over our shoulder, his inability to try different things and reluctance to give the likes of Aznou and Dibling a go mean that we are failing the business model The Friedkin Group set out: That being, buying young players and improving them and selling them on for huge profits.
We have two players in Dibling and Aznou who are losing value.
Of course I'm not advocating that we just become a selling club, but we need a canny mix of established players and youth. We know that Moyes is very fixed in what he likes, and while that will get us so far, I think Iraola or Glasner can do just as well as Moyes but they will be more open playing younger players who have no Premier League experience.
At the same time, I would not like to see Moyes sacked. Rather he remains at the club and moves upstairs, which I think is probably his and the clubs plan anyway.
53 Posted 13/05/2026 at 16:35:32
54 Posted 13/05/2026 at 16:58:00
Iraola while playing attractive football has yet to show consistency in his teams and has no pedigree to show yet. Can you imagine our support if we went on a 10-game winless streak?
I would much sooner have Marco Silva back with an improved recruitment team.
My view is simply let Moyes get us back in the Top 6 backed with serious recruitment and then bring in a top manager who would be more tempted than taking a recovering basket case.
55 Posted 13/05/2026 at 17:37:39
Steve Brown, sorry. We have bery different views on Moyes, but we can both do better and I can stand to be less of a dick about it.
56 Posted 13/05/2026 at 17:48:44
My answer is Yes!!
57 Posted 13/05/2026 at 17:54:49
Not yet anyway, they will wait another season. What they need to do is buy 2 or 3 proper game-changing players for the future, that is if they are allowed to.
59 Posted 13/05/2026 at 18:10:18
Both these guys know they won't get to compete for the biggest prizes at their current clubs, won't be able to keep a great player at their club if they find one, like Eze, Semenyo, Olise, Guehi.
We are not at that level either, although stronger than Palace or Bournemouth. We could turn down bids for top players, but the players themselves want to play for the honours too, so we will struggle if teams come for our big names.
I don't want a guy coming to Everton doing well, and then just doing a Carlo when the call they really want comes.
I've said for a while, we should already know who we want to take over from Moyes... if that's now, next year, or whenever.
If they have thought they want Iraola for a while, now's the time, same if it was Glasner. If it's Eddie Howe, then wait.
When the Moyes appointment was made, they should have had his successor earmarked, or a list of best possible people, and if one of them was available, then go for it.
60 Posted 13/05/2026 at 18:39:43
If your Aunty had a Blackpool rock, she would be your uncle.
No other teams get bad decisions against them?
61 Posted 13/05/2026 at 18:53:32
1. The players he signs are not the players the new manager wants to work with.
2. He will get us around midtable next season regardless of how little or how much he spends.
62 Posted 13/05/2026 at 19:07:43
I don't know, mate, this squad is creaking like a rusty old Raleigh burner. Tarkowski, Keane, Gana all not good enough to start, week-in & week-out.
Add in O'Brien and it's looking like the Yanks have signed us a basketball player trotting up the wing. Mykolenko defending for his life, when there's no danger.
I'd say another season with these won't go well.
63 Posted 13/05/2026 at 19:29:37
The top quality players need to be able to work with the new manager season after next.
64 Posted 13/05/2026 at 19:39:03
In my opinion, this guy would bring such positive vibes to the squad and renewed hope and belief for the likes of me -- he wants to win football matches, for fuck's sake.
Moyes has done his work, let's move on please. It wouldn't be that expensive to get rid of Moyes. Then negotiate a much improved contract for Iraola compared to what he was earning at Bournemouth.
65 Posted 13/05/2026 at 20:22:53
I work with a West Ham fan. He'd have Moyes back tomorrow. He wanted more enterprising football and now they are on the brink of a return to the Championship. Moyes gave him his best memory in football. Careful what you wish for.
I loved Martinez at first but it went sour. Silva was unlucky. Carlo was good until we came down with the decorations.
Let Moyes get a decent striker in and strengthen at the back. Get some stability and then take the next step.
66 Posted 13/05/2026 at 20:23:22
I've said it before, give the dour one a transfer kitty and we'll be flooded with older journeyman players.
67 Posted 13/05/2026 at 20:33:40
Get paid!
68 Posted 13/05/2026 at 20:44:11
So who are the old journeymen players signed by Moyes since he came back?
Grealish?
69 Posted 13/05/2026 at 20:47:05
If not, just who at Bournemouth is scouting and signing their stream of excellent players?
In the Moshiri Madness, we signed Koeman who'd excelled at Southampton, but left Les Reed behind, the behind-the-scenes man when it came to them signing their stream of talented players.
Instead, Walsh from Leicester was signed to his huge delight because anyone who knew how Leicester worked knew that other scouts found the likes of their star players from "lesser" leagues and Walsh just took the credit.
So, yes, I'd like Iraola but the background guys at Bournemouth seem way better than any we have. Iraola, and any manager, needs provenly successful assistants to acquire young talent and develop it.
70 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:23:10
He has young talent but prefers steady Eddie players.
71 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:41:10
I thought Moyes spent north of 100 million last summer?
72 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:43:21
His approach always remains the same (dull, uninspiring) and he doesn"t win things. 1200 games as a manager, 28 seasons, all kinds of different clubs, divisions etc - one poxy trophy
His teams are workmanlike and average. Exactly like him. Just because he's a bit better than Dyche doesn't mean he's the solution. In fact he helped create the problem when he played a pivotal role in dumbing down our aspirations and expectations 20 odd years ago.
73 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:47:41
He only bought the ones that worked out. The others were signed by some mysterious transfer cabal, and even though he said he had final say, he didnt.
Or something like that
74 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:56:56
75 Posted 13/05/2026 at 21:59:34
76 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:01:24
"Or something like that"
We've been debating this point since last August...
Have you not been paying attention... again!
77 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:06:13
So a potentially much better manager who is also ‘in alignment' wouldn't be a good reason? The only reason for not replacing any manager would have to be because you couldn't get anyone better. It would certainly be harder to justify if Moyes were working for peanuts... but I believe that's not the case.
“The Premier League has a history of managers over-achieving at lesser clubs.” Talk about the bleedin' obvious! How else do managers get their shot at managing the bigger clubs? Many don't work out but a few do. Sometimes dreams do come true.
West Ham fans might be pining for the relative safety of a Moyes stewardship now but they would soon enough have the same conundrum we currently have...
How do you leap forwards as a club and is it ever too early to make the first steps on that journey?
78 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:12:00
The debate on Moyes's transfer responsibilities is a bit like the hokey-cokey.
79 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:12:27
And we bought them with... erm... Green Shield Stamps?
80 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:16:03
That's going back a bit.
81 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:24:13
That's his approach to team selection...
"You put your right back out...
Your centre back in..
Ohhh hokey"
82 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:25:59
Alcaraz was out injured but he's been fit again, for the last couple of matches -- and in a remarkable sign of something unexpected from Moyes, he has been preferred over McNeil, at least when it comes to late late subs.
83 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:25:59
Alcaraz was out injured but he's been fit again, for the last couple of matches -- and in a remarkable sign of something unexpected from Moyes, he has been preferred over McNeil, at least when it comes to late late subs.
84 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:28:30
VAR etc are putting a serious question on renewing my season
ticket. However if Moyes went Ill definitely be back.
85 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:29:32
I remember me Granny talking about them.
I thought at the time we were saving up for Irish unity.
86 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:47:08
I saw these opportunities as challenges to improve my family's lot and to test myself against my peers. That to me was the way ahead, go at the top of your game, accept the challenge and give it 110% to prove to yourself and the competition that you did right to move.
These opportunities came around every 3/5 years and as such I had the satisfaction of seeing different faces, getting the team to play better and differently and seeing the improvements that I knew were achievable. There was never a dull moment and I thrived on proving that most targets were achievable. It was a great ride and I wish Iraola well.
He is the sort of manager Everton should be looking at, he has something to prove - to himself, and from his past record we could certainly do worse than him.
MoyesMkII was not my choice, he has done reasonably well, he inherited well and we see improvements here and there. But he is not the future of this great club. Like Iraola we should be ambitious, we should be open to progression every 2/3 years and not persist with mediocracy.
The future with Moyes at the helm will be much of the same, an ageing Grealish holding up the ball on the touchline, with very little end product. A Dibbling sitting on the bench with other little tried and tested youngsters - while Tarks (don't you just love the guy) keeps battering the opposition to make up for a slow out of position Keane while our £80M super-star continues with his injury problems.
Is Iraola the best? Who knows! But that is what we Evertonians yearn for - and deserve. Nil Satis and all that.
87 Posted 13/05/2026 at 22:54:05
I personally am enjoying our stability and fighting for a European place as compared to fighting relegation. I personally think players are keeping tabs on Everton; one more season under Moyes and more stability will see Everton as a club that top players would once again see as an attractive place to go.
I remember at the start of the season Moyes saying wait till the end of the season, and I believe that strategy was to show the football world that we are on the up in a new stadium and with a team fighting for Europe.
88 Posted 13/05/2026 at 23:01:58
"I was in a job "
Where you in football management or anything similar?
89 Posted 13/05/2026 at 23:33:57
Yet there are posters on here that want Moyes to compound that bad management by playing other players out of position. And at the same time making out they know how to manage a football club better than him.
90 Posted 13/05/2026 at 23:53:18
James Garner got best player award when England won the European under 21 tournament a couple of years back.
Garner played every game as a right back.
91 Posted 13/05/2026 at 00:17:26
92 Posted 13/05/2026 at 00:19:52
93 Posted 13/05/2026 at 00:31:55
Meet Mike #50 "Moyes is on over £5M","
Moyes is supposedly one of the highest paid managers in the game so it would cost a lot to get rid of him, and his backroom staff. Something which the TFG bean counters might take into consideration.
94 Posted 14/05/2026 at 01:21:00
95 Posted 14/05/2026 at 01:51:24
One way or another if we are to make our way back to the top TFG are going to have to put their hands in their pockets for players and a manager, and maybe one of Bournemouths recruiting team if that manager turned out to be Iraola.
For me the big question that has to be answered is are TFG willing to invest in the squad and if so are they actually able to under current financial rules?
96 Posted 14/05/2026 at 02:08:50
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You're up late, on the sauce again?
97 Posted 14/05/2026 at 02:13:30
It applies whoever is manager.
98 Posted 14/05/2026 at 02:49:14
Assuming TFG do acquire those three players, given a choice between Moyes or Iraola, which one would be most likely to get us into the top 6 with the revamped squad. My answer would be Iraola.
99 Posted 14/05/2026 at 05:24:29
Koeman finished 6th with Southampton and people thought if he could do that there imagine what he could do at a bigger club like us. That didn't end too well.
100 Posted 14/05/2026 at 05:52:25
So whats the alternative stick with Moyes forever because theres no one better ? Really ? What about Glasner ? Frank? Maresca? are they all not good enough aswell ? Were in danger of thinking as last time Moyes is the be all and end all we have to get over this stupidity belief that we cant get better or well have another x amount of years believing were taking a knife to a gunfight and thinking were lucky to get out of some grounds with our life ?
Theres good managers out there and theres a few becoming available this year do we miss the boat again because it didnt work last time ?
101 Posted 14/05/2026 at 05:58:30
They are two managers very much on an upward curve. They both deserve to manage at a club who only sell players past their sell by date. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, that is now where EFC are. We are stable and also on an upward curve but we need to keep moving forward, with pace and I believe that with the Moyesiah, the pace will be slow. Glasner and Iraola if backed can take our club back to where we belong and do it a lot quicker than the present manager. If pushed to choose I'd pick Glasner but would be happy if Iraola got the gig.
So it's up to TFG. Stick with slow and steady or grab the club by the neck and put an up and coming and more positive manager in charge, next season.
102 Posted 14/05/2026 at 07:13:20
It's been correctly pointed out that Moyes has barely improved Everton's table position and goal differential this season.
But the same is true of Glasner and Iraola. Neither has significantly improved the numbers for their respective clubs this term, and there's no guarantee that they would with Everton.
My preference is for Glasner, who knows how to find silverware and whose pressing style better suits our current squad than Iraola's emphasis on possession.
Certainly both are young, sharp managers who would deliver more attractive, entertaining football.
But would they deliver us more success?
No promises.
103 Posted 14/05/2026 at 07:57:12
Palace won the FA Cup last year, are in the Conference League Final, won the Community Shield against the RS, who they regularly beat -- things Moyes can only dream about.
Ask a neutral who they would have as their manager, Moyes or Iraola? It will be a resounding win for Iraola. Ask who they would sooner watch, dreary Everton or Bournemouth? It'll be Bournemouth all day long.
Jack, I couldn't agree more.
105 Posted 14/05/2026 at 08:14:38
Iraola keeps losing important players but he will finish higher this season than last and Bournemouth will be in Europe next season. They have not lost for 18 games.
These are things that we can only dream off at this point in time. If Iraola is Bet Lynch, Moyes is Emily Bishop.
Wouldn't it be lovely if we had Senesi, Truffert, Hill, Scott, Rayan, Kroupi, and Evanilson???
106 Posted 14/05/2026 at 09:16:47
"I was in a job "
Where you in football management or anything similar?
Brendan - I believe the word you are struggling with is 'were'. 'Where' is a different word altogether and probably tells us something about 'where' you received your education - or lack of it±
Not being aggressive you understand just trying to help you with the English language. Perhaps your granny should have paid you more attention instead of concentrating on those Greenshield Stamps.
But to answer your question - the answer is yes or similar. Enjoy the rest of your day.
107 Posted 14/05/2026 at 09:53:38
108 Posted 14/05/2026 at 11:18:36
109 Posted 14/05/2026 at 11:20:19
The same or similar?
BTW, it's BMcL not BM. Every day's a school day eh?
110 Posted 14/05/2026 at 11:45:21
For this reason, I don't think playing a pressing game really suits us, Mike, but it would be nice to see someone like Glasner try and change this.
I'm not that bothered what style we use, just as long as everyone is completely in sync and it's effective, but I do think it's imperative we start building a much bigger squad, and find a manager who isn't scared of rotating.
111 Posted 14/05/2026 at 12:01:40
I guess getting a manager that rotates the squad more than Moyes rules out Iriola as, since January, they have used the same number of players.
Rotation is fine if it doesn't greatly diminish the quality and that often determines how managers rotate their squads.
112 Posted 14/05/2026 at 12:36:11
Even given a straight choice between him and Glasner, I'd pick Glasner without hesitation.
113 Posted 14/05/2026 at 12:39:05
Interesting. For what reasons?
114 Posted 14/05/2026 at 12:40:04
I think most fans overestimate the influence of managers; of course some will be better than others. I'm not saying they don't matter but they all need the right players.
I mean how many managers have we tried over recent years, and have they made any difference? Fuck all.... that's how much; they can't all have been poor.
The constant has been our squad doesn't match up to the usual sides that do well most seasons. We can flip a coin and try another but he will have the same problem unless we sign some more top players.
115 Posted 14/05/2026 at 12:45:51
116 Posted 14/05/2026 at 13:15:16
We have been waiting for one for 30-plus years
117 Posted 14/05/2026 at 13:37:22
It's working because, if Everton had got the same amount of points as Bournemouth have achieved in their last six games, we would be sitting in the Champions League places now.
But whereas Bournemouth have come on strong, Everton seem to have run out of steam when it mattered.
Maybe you're correct with your automatic assumption, Brian, and that's why I'd prefer Glasner, because he seems to do better in the cups.
118 Posted 14/05/2026 at 17:26:23
119 Posted 14/05/2026 at 17:30:31
FA Cup, Community Shield... Now in the final of the Conference League and favourites to win.
Palace also beat the other shower 5 times in 3 seasons
-- no one can compete with that who is available.
120 Posted 14/05/2026 at 17:49:04
Yes, go get Iraola. This one is a no-brainer.
121 Posted 14/05/2026 at 17:50:34
We need to significantly upgrade and deepen the squad this summer -- whether we make it into the Conference League or not.
122 Posted 14/05/2026 at 18:31:05
Ask any players who have played for Moyes and they will all sing his praises. I'm not saying we can't get a better manager... I'm just saying we could do a lot worse by taking the flavour of the month.
Most of these are at extremely well run clubs with well scouted players. Thomas Frank was flavour of the month not so long ago. Slot was being hailed 12 months ago. I've always maintained that the quality of the players is the biggest part of any success.
123 Posted 14/05/2026 at 18:46:29
124 Posted 14/05/2026 at 19:30:10
Meanwhile, Moyes is rated 80% certain to remain as Everton manager for next season.
125 Posted 14/05/2026 at 19:32:46
What bookies are giving a show?
126 Posted 14/05/2026 at 19:43:12
I just Googled "Iraola next club odds" and the same with Glasner and looked at the first links that popped up.
Also Googled "Everton next manager odds". I think only one link popped up in response to this.
127 Posted 14/05/2026 at 20:19:43
128 Posted 14/05/2026 at 21:22:12
129 Posted 14/05/2026 at 22:21:41
Also, Moyes could have a director position, because he knows the club very well.
130 Posted 14/05/2026 at 23:15:49
Not all job experiences are transferable, so you do need to explain why your ‘2-3 years and then automatically move on to the next challenge strategy is specifically of benefit to the football manager role. Some clubs have even obviously benefitted from having the right person in position for decades.
It is one thing to point out that it can be too easy to settle for ‘good enough, it is another to essentially claim that excellence can only be achieved by regular disruption.
131 Posted 14/05/2026 at 04:03:03
There's no special lights hanging off Iraola. Track his managerial career path and search for all the "pulled-up trees". Good luck.
His singular, overarching really, ToffeeWeb discussion thread qualification is that he's not Moyes.
There's a better manager than Moyes? Let's go get him. Count me in. It's just not minor-league Marco Silva; Andoni Iraola.
132 Posted 15/05/2026 at 09:58:24
There's not a single mention of us in the running for a new manager anywhere online so I'm not sure where all this heat for Iraola to join us is coming from, other than Everton fans.
133 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:08:19
134 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:26:16
I absolutely agree. Its mostly about the players and then what the manager can get from them.
I think a better manager could get more out of these players than a mid table / bottom half finish and dumped out of both cup competitions early and by lesser opponents.
Just like when Moyes could get more out of last years squad than Dyche had. Not starting NDiaye at the beginning of the season. Not playing OBrien at all. Not selecting Branthwaite and favouring Keane at the beginning of his regime. Not getting the levels of performance out of Tim and Garner that Moyes has. We have added a little quality since then also. But hes also overseen the addition of Dibling and Barry whove not improved the team or squad at all.
So I think there is room for a better manager to improve us again. And take us beyond the ceiling of Moyes - hes already reached it. We know the absolute best he can do because we had 10 years of it. And his best is not good enough for Everton Football Club.
We have some good players. We even have some very good players.
135 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:31:03
Fourth wasn't it?
136 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:33:00
Hehe
137 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:35:14
138 Posted 15/05/2026 at 10:59:54
139 Posted 15/05/2026 at 11:03:10
140 Posted 15/05/2026 at 11:28:45
He took over the reigning champions, Man Utd won the league the season before he arrived with 89 points.
In one season, he dropped them to 7th position with 25 points less.
141 Posted 15/05/2026 at 21:16:34
142 Posted 15/05/2026 at 23:24:33
You can do subtle... as well.
143 Posted 15/05/2026 at 00:59:20
144 Posted 17/05/2026 at 10:53:11
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1 Posted 13/05/2026 at 10:13:35
Andoni Iraola is leaving Bournemouth at the end of the 2025-26 season because his contract is expiring and he decided it was the "right moment" to end his 3-year tenure, aiming to leave while the team is in a strong position. He sought a new challenge after feeling it was time to move on, rather than risking a fourth season of diminishing returns.
If that's true, sounds a lot like he's a glory hunter at heart and wants a 'big club' -- which we were once but arguably that status has been systematically eroded by Kenwright & Moyes with their 'plucky little Everton' bullshit.
But one thing Everton have been happy to do is pay their managers vast sums of money -- way beyond their status in the game (with the exception of Ancelotti) -- and moey talks as we know../