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If there is one thing we Evertonians know intimately, it is the profound, soul-sapping embrace of deliberately lowered expectations. 

So, as the Scottish FA reels from Steve Clarke’s utterly predictable 2026 World Cup exit — resigning yesterday, a mere 30 days after signing a contract until 2030, in a display of administrative foresight that would make even the Goodison Park board blush— they face a daunting task. How do you possibly replace a man who successfully managed to make reaching a major tournament feel like a gruelling shift down the pit?

Step forward, David William Moyes.

According to whispers floating out of Hampden Park (presumably carried on a bitter, freezing wind), the former Everton, Manchester United, and West Ham overlord is the "outstanding candidate" to take the reins. And honestly? It makes perfect sense. If you are a nation whose entire footballing identity is predicated on glorious failure and dour pragmatism, Moyes isn't just a candidate; he is your ultimate divine destiny.

Let us objectively examine why "Dithering Dave" is the single most highly qualified man in world football to guide the Tartan Army into their next cycle of inevitable disappointment.

  • A Masterclass in Expectation Management: Steve Clarke did a fine job of telling everyone Scotland were just happy to be there, but Moyes wrote the book on it. Imagine the sheer poetry of Moyes facing the Scottish press before a crucial qualifier against San Marino, solemnly declaring that "we're taking a knife to a gunfight, but the lads will run hard." He will have the entire country convinced that securing a 0-0 draw at home against the Faroe Islands is a tactical triumph on par with peak Guardiola.

  • The Tactical "Nuance": Under Clarke, Scotland played a rugged back five and hoped Scott McTominay would spontaneously turn into prime Zinedine Zidane. Moyes can take this further. He will reintroduce the low-block 4-5-1, ensuring that no Scottish player crosses the halfway line unless they have filled out the proper requisition forms in triplicate. Possession will be viewed not as a tool for creating chances, but as a dangerous liability to be handed back to the opposition as quickly as possible.

  • A Ruthless Youth Policy: There are some exciting young Scottish talents emerging. Billy Gilmour is in his prime, and younger lads are knocking on the door. Moyes will brilliantly protect these youngsters from the harsh realities of international football by never, ever playing them. Why risk a 21-year-old with technical ability when you can unearth a 34-year-old journeyman who "knows the ropes" and can do a job tracking back?

To fully grasp the seamless transition the SFA is looking at, one only needs to look at the data:

Tactical Trait Steve Clarke’s Scotland David Moyes’s Blueprint
Formation 5-4-1 and pray. 4-5-1 and tell the press it's actually an attacking 4-3-3.
View on Possession A dangerous novelty. Something the other team does before we concede from a set-piece.
Attacking Strategy Cross it to someone who isn't a striker. Earn a corner in the 88th minute; send the centre-backs up.
Go-to Excuse "We are just little Scotland." "I thought the boys showed great character after going 3-0 down."

Moyes appears to be set for another fabulous season of mediocrity in charge of resurgent Everton, who escaped the increasingly dreadful Moshiri years and surged up the Premier League table to an incredible 13th-place finish that surprised everyone under his frugal and uninspiring leadership.

But the call of his homeland must be strong. Who else possesses the unique blend of furrowed brows, defensive stubbornness, and an innate ability to make a 1-0 victory over Haiti look like a desperate rearguard action at Rorke's Drift?

The SFA needs to get this deal over the line immediately. Offer him a 10-year contract. Promise him total control over the height of the grass at Hampden. Assure him that he will never, under any circumstances, be asked to play expansive, attacking football.

It is time to bring the Moyesiah home. Let the relentless, doggedly depressing era begin. We wouldn't wish it on anyone else, but for Scotland? It’s a match made in heaven.

 

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Kevin Naylor
1 Posted 28/06/2026 at 09:40:11
Moyes for the Scotland job please.
Kunal Desai
2 Posted 28/06/2026 at 11:15:14
Moyes favourite for the Scotland.

Please let this be true.
Andrew Merrick
3 Posted 28/06/2026 at 11:38:49
A match made in heaven?

Let the stars align.
John Collins
4 Posted 28/06/2026 at 11:43:38
Anyone thinking the self preserving Moyes will take a £4 million cut in his Everton annual wage had better think again.
Michael Kenrick
5 Posted 28/06/2026 at 11:56:08
Oh bugger, John. That's brought me back down to earth with a bang.

I had built my hopes up to a peak of frienzied excitement and anticipaton, writing up the dream scenario -- and you just shot it to pieces... or perhaps I should say stuck a knife into the bleeding heart of it, as Moyes ain't got no guns.
Andrew Merrick
6 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:30:38
A penny for Nathan's thoughts...
Kevin Molloy
7 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:30:53
This will flush things out either way. If the Friedkins are minded to not extend, I think he'll jump now. I'm sure he'll want to be Scotland manager, and this may not come up again. Why stay here for another 9 months just to get booted?

If this has been in the offing for a little while, it could help explain some of Moyes recent behaviour. His 'up yours' to the fans, heading out to the World Cup etc.

Let's face it, we know he likes to 'plan for the future'. The way the Scots FA works, I'm sure they've been in his ears for months/years.
Annika Herbert
8 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:31:40
Please God let it be true! How can he turn down a knife to a gunfight in every single match Scotland play?
Gary Borrows
9 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:37:03
I can only add what's been written before is there a god can we be saved from another season of mediocrity watching the old over-the-hill defence surrender game after game?

Please, Moyesy, it's what you need to do, so thanks for the brief memories and depart leaving us Toffees to rekindle some hope.
Peter Gorman
10 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:48:26
This article is absolutely brutal, Michael.

10/10 would read again.
Rob Beattie
11 Posted 28/06/2026 at 12:55:13
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE he's absolutely dire
Raymond Fox
12 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:04:19
While I have sympathy with the wish for a new manager, don't expect wonderful, joined-up, winning football with the squad we have at the moment. They have had enough time to show their ability, although maybe I'm being too unkind to them because they did quite well up to the disastrous last 7 games.

Your Man City and Arsenal have spent bleeding fortunes on players that can knock the ball around and can even pass it to a team mate... unlike ours.

I will take a bet now whoever is our next manager will be deemed crap by some after his first season.
Josh Horne
13 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:06:50
Watching Scotland put me in mind of Everton.

It would be just our luck for us to end up with Steve Clarke as a natural successor with the same philosophy of dour, cautious, negative football.
Mark Ryan
14 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:13:30
In the words of Steven Patrick Morrissey, Please, please, please, let me get what I want, this time.

If the SFA offer him a 4-year deal he'll bite their hand off and, if it happens, I will say 10 Our Fathers, 10 Hail Marys and a dozen Glory Bes because that will mean there is a God.

Everything crossed.
Liam Mogan
15 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:15:11
Moyes actually said 'Scotland played well for the first 10 minutes' in the Brazil game, even though they conceded after 7 minutes.

Man's a tired old has-been who churns out more manure than a Shire horse.

We won't be lucky enough that he'll return to his homeland. He'd also be an awful international manager.
Joe McMahon
16 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:23:37
No way will he take a huge pay cut. It's a pisser, as he is made for this job as the article says.

We are stuck with this energy-sapping parasite until he gets sacked (again).
Jimmy Hardacre
17 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:24:03
This would be a lottery win for us all. I will throw a fiver in to pay for his train.

They could not make a better pair... and remember no transfers, so it's not his fault.
Jack Convery
18 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:32:53
Knowing our luck, TFG will hire Clarke if the Moyesiah get's the Scotland gig.

Mike you had me laughing out loud. More please.

A depressed as ever, Evertonian.
Oliver Molloy
19 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:49:53
Any Scottish Evertoinans fans in here ?, I don't think there are many Everton fans in Scotland.

Seriously, this couldn't happen, could it - we should start a campaign "Moyes for Scotland" to firmly let the dinoasour know he goes with our full blessing, no hard feelings ( most of us anyway ).
John Collins
20 Posted 28/06/2026 at 13:54:52
Och aye the noo.
Up the fuckin toffays.

I will contribute to the campaign funding Oliver.
Dale Self
21 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:01:43
Wear kilts to the preseason matches.
Andrew Ellams
22 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:16:16
Don't want to burst anybodys bubble but get your money on big Ange
Oliver Molloy
23 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:24:53
Even with the carrot dangling in front of him to guide Scotland to qualify for the 2028 Euros as co-hosts -- it won't happen -- too much unfinished business with us! No, he's going to have to be sacked.

A Leeds supporting friend of mine asked me the other day if Moyes was to start playing more attacking football, changed his management style, etc and was doing well, would I still want him gone?

My answer was: "Don't be stupid, his management style is never going to change." "Why?" he asked, to which I replied, "Because he hasn't a clue about the modern game and tactics."
John Collins
24 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:37:02
Rangers fans backing a former Celtic manager Andrew?
Andrew Ellams
25 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:52:59
They were okay with Jock Stein back in the day, John.
John Collins
26 Posted 28/06/2026 at 14:54:50
He was a Protestant, I think, Andrew. Sad, but it has an effect on football up there.

Great manager
Alan J Thompson
27 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:32:29
It seems to be the usual practice with national team coaches that the contract is usually only until the next tournament which somebody said was the Euros 2028 but I'd have thought that if Moyes was to move back north then the Celtic job would have been of more interest but more intense.

But this being Everton, if there was any truth in it then TFG would probably spoil the pot by demanding compensation.
Daniel A Johnson
28 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:35:00
He’ll be bringing a Bic razor to a gun fight with the jocks.

Moyes on the underachievement gravy train again.
Martin Berry
29 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:46:36
You may have the knives in the Managers back, and therefore more difficult to use in a gunfight, but that said, I'll wait and see what happens in the window.

Am I frustrated at the manager's tactics at times? Yes, the fact that no one has signed yet? Yes... but it's still early and little business has been done.

If we manage to persuade both Jack and Jarrod to sign for us, then in the big part it will down to the fact they still have faith in Moyes as a manager, so there may yet be life in the old dog and not going anywhere North just yet!
Daniel A Johnson
30 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:48:48
Dress him in a kilt and send him gift wrapped in a tartan bow.

Time to get Glasner ASAP
Iain Johnston
31 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:50:09
Come on Davey, you know you want to!

Think of all of those shopping trips along Via dei Mille when you jet off to catch 90 minutes of McTominay then head off down to Sorrento under the setting sun or dine in Positano, maybe even a bit further along the Almalfi coast mmm...?

Lovely!

I fancy a bit of that myself!
John Collins
32 Posted 28/06/2026 at 15:59:07
Are TW running a teaser campaign?
Its exciting then it's not as the realisation hits home.
Hes going nowhere..

"Am I frustrated at the Managers tactics at times yes"

What times and tactics are you not frustrated with?
Dale Self
33 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:07:32
John, I'm ruling out modern and football as answers to your question.
Christy Ring
34 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:10:42
Would love to see Moyes take the Scotland job, but sadly that's not going to happen, he's not going to take a big reduction in wages.
Ian Pilkington
35 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:17:08
Michael, one of your finest ever articles.

May God make it happen immediately.
John Collins
36 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:21:36
Dale,

I'm genuinely interested in the times during last season Martin considered that what he was watching was not frustrating.
Mark Ryan
37 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:33:30
We need Ange Postecoglu to quickly distance himself from the job and allow the pressure to build on Moyes as the firm favourite.

I would love it to happen!
Iain Johnston
38 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:33:47
Martin Berry I love it!

It's not faith, it's laziness, it's gullability or a simple act of desperation.

£300k + a week for 2 players, one pushing 31 and the other pushing 30 and probably £70m in transfer fees.

I know let's get John Stones in as well, he'd fit right in being 32, a sick note and will possibly sign for 50% of his Man City wages so a very cost effective £125k a week!!

We're currently quibbling over £20m for arguably one of the best up & coming midfielders in English football not to mention the £18m we've just spent on Rohl. The Club have also been reluctant to play either Patterson or Iroegbunam as that would trigger clauses costing the club a combined £3.5m.

Financially the club is no better off than it was last season but yeah as wages now come out of the transfer budget let's spend the best part of £120m on Grealish & Bowen.

Buy them on the drip? Ok... that's £40m to find every year for 3 years with zero sell on value.
Our turnover last year was only a few million more than Bournemouth which only has a 11200 ground capacity, 3.5 times less than Goodison.

If you can show me where the money will come from for such transfers I'd be well chuffed... and I've worked in football finance for decades.

We need to look at the likes of Brentford, Crystal Palace & Brighton and buy smarter.

Bottom line is if we want to attract the calibre of player who demands a 6 figure weekly wage our commercial turnover must be increased to aound £325 - £350m whilst bearing in mind that the 5th richest Premier League club barely escaped relegation, Spurs. The 8th richest club is being forced to sell players, Newcastle, & the 9th Richest club, West Ham, has been relegated.

We're currently 11th or 12th depending on which figures you look at - either above or below Palace.
Dale Self
39 Posted 28/06/2026 at 16:57:06
Well John, I'm sure Martin will offer something good but it won't be Martin Mason good.
Mike Gaynes
40 Posted 28/06/2026 at 17:34:50
Fun article and responses... but come on, are you folks kidding?

Can you really picture Moyes taking a 90% pay cut to manage Scotland?

He's making £5m a year at Everton. Scotland pays its national team manager less than £500k.

What true Scotsman would do that?

And even if he were so inclined, what true Scotsman's wife would allow it?

Nah. Ain't happening.
Kevin Molloy
41 Posted 28/06/2026 at 17:52:02
if this happens, it was all done months ago. And explains all the weird shit of the last three months.
He's got months left on his current deal, that's not going to be factor on what contract he signs next. If he knows TFG aren't going to extend his deal I think he would see this as the best way to end his career.
Dale Self
42 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:02:37
Mike, (playing the old philosophy fallacy) no true Scotsman would have Everton playing the way they did last season, so your question does not apply. ; )

But seriously, Dan has some serious asset accumulation. Surely, he could structure something to close the gap enough to maybe have Dave thinking of legacy. Deep down, I think that may matter a mill or two to him. I don't think he is going for 1000 premier league matches.
Tony Abrahams
43 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:28:29
I think the Scotland job, is tailor-made for David Moyes, whereas there is a lot more danger in taking the Celtic job, because the only thing acceptable to Celtic fans is winning trophies.
John Collins
44 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:31:22
He wouldn't last long as Celtic manager imo Tony.
A crowd that demands a certain type of play up there
Stu Darlington
45 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:33:16
It’s a nice dream guys but it ain’t going happen.
We’re stuck with his mediocrity until at least Christmas.
If things are going pear shaped by then and we’re seesawing around 16th or 17th in the table we may see TFG get their act together and sack him.Don’t put your mortgage on it though,these are not football people and have a different set of priorities to diehard Evertonians.
Of course if they get rid of him then all the best candidates will be employed elsewhere
Nothing new there then!
Daniel A Johnson
46 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:42:07
If Moyes got the Celtic job he would say in his first presser they aspire to be like Rangers.

David Moyes is the master of lowering the bar and earning millions peddling mediocrity.
Kevin Naylor
47 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:43:12
First Derby will be his last game imo. Can't see us being anywhere except lower half and then getting beat by the RS at home will be the last straw.
John Collins
48 Posted 28/06/2026 at 18:57:58
Moyes will be under pressure from the first game.
Majority of the fans want him gone,they will be all over him.
Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:39:36
Majority of the fans want him gone?

I'd be very interested to know how you know that, John.
Billy Bradshaw
50 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:52:02
I'm in the majority Mike.
John Collins
51 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:54:41
Through people I talk to about Everton, on a daily basis. From everyone who sits around me at the game. I haven't spoken to anyone who wants him to stay.
We could also use ToffeeWeb posts as guidance Mike.
Kevin Naylor
52 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:54:48
I think if there was a poll on here at least 80% would want him gone. Maybe Michael can organise one?
Paul Hewitt
53 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:57:01
I can see Moyes managing Scotland. As long as they pay him 5 million a year.
John Collins
54 Posted 28/06/2026 at 19:57:35
51% is a majority Kevin.

Moyes biggest fan wouldn't, and couldn't deny it's a majority of us who want him gone
Adrian Phillips
55 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:05:23
More social media fantasy football from those fans that live in an Everton bubble, where a genie steps out of a toffee jar and gives Everton unlimited funds and its choice of players.

A dreamworld without PSR, without year-on-year losses, without one of the Premier League's highest debts, lowest revenues, and smallest squads.

A paradise where the wicked wizard Moyes is dispatched back to Scotland and replaced by the ghost of Howard Kendall.

Where season tickets are free, stadium capacity unlimited, where Everton is the big "one", where Everton never concede and every week, every player scores a hat-trick and ToffeeWeb is not just tired clickbait.
Martin Scott
56 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:08:11
With all due respect Mike G, on a daily basis you are not in the City (obvs) to gauge the mood of the average Evertonian.

In my job (Chef), I'm in daily contact with the public, inevitably red or blue in conversation turns up. I can honestly say 90% blues want him gone.
Mike Gaynes
57 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:10:00
John, ToffeeWeb is not a typical cross-section of the fan base any more than Ashworth is a typical cross-section of society.

We are nuts.
Annika Herbert
58 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:17:09
Adrian @55 -- and which fantasy do you reside in? No doubt one that has Moyes appearing as the all-conquering hero.

A fantasy where there is never any criticism of such a beloved leader as Moyes.
Mike Gaynes
59 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:20:53
I'd be very interested to seeing the results of an open poll, Martin. Maybe by the Echo or the Athletic. I saw one on Reddit not long ago and it was split roughly down the middle.

Certainly the TW and Grand Old Team fansites are solidly against him, but those are samplings of fans who choose to join.
Martin Scott
60 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:28:22
Agree Mike an open poll would be interesting...
Alan McGuffog
61 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:43:00
I would love to think that he is over there sizing up exciting talent that he can bring to HD. I'd doubt it though. So, especially after his recent comments about where he can take Everton I would love to see the back of him.
Now my memory may be playing tricks but a few years ago didn't the Blue Union have a cake based procession down Goodison Rd ?A few hundred wanting big changes at the top. And was it not at that game that, in true North Korean style, pictures of the greatest ever Dave Hickson fan were flashed up on the screens to rapturous applause?
I wonder if, after decades of mediocrity, many fans are just apathetic? Plus ca change and all that
Mark Ryan
62 Posted 28/06/2026 at 20:56:51
Let's have a poll
John Collins
63 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:15:00
I know Mike,the reason my last para was tongue in cheek.

The main point is I haven't spoken to one Evertonian who wants him to stay.
Either in the ground,concourses and in seats.
Eric Myles
64 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:18:39
Makes more sense to have a pole, or a Pole, than a poll, 'cos there's only one vote that counts. TFG's.
Mike Gaynes
65 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:27:52
John, I wonder how many of them are writing letters or emails to the club. I’ll bet the club is tracking incoming feedback.

But Evertonians are quite genteel compared to, say, the Roma ultras. I’m skeptical that the fans have the attention of our ownership on this issue.
Andrew Merrick
66 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:31:16
I think a fanbase poll would be close.
Fan forums have strong opinions,, a lot of them well thought out, reasoned.
Put the two together and lets see.
I have respect for our manager, hes nobodys fool.
Id love to know the honest truth about our owners plans, it might be that David Moyes is frustrated, constricted, but also contracted and well paid.
At some stage TFG have to look at a succession scenario, is that plan already drafted, scheduled, dormant. ?
How much freedom would a new manager have? What budget, how much say in transfers?
The owners are silent, what does that tell us?
Maybe their plans are not pallitable enough to share.
John Collins
67 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:31:29
I'm more concerned some fans will vote with their feet Mike.
It happened a good few times last season

Different gravy in Serie A Mike.
Ultras have a big say at most of the clubs.
Derek Thomas
68 Posted 28/06/2026 at 22:44:15
Moyes and Scotland; a match made more in hope than experience.
I hope it happens - and soon.

Then we can forget about both for a few years until the World Cup qualifiers come around and Scotland arrive at the must win game.

Then that will be the end of that.

The only downside I can see is for Patterson...

"Patto, Moyes is leaving."
Patto punches air, "Woo, woo."
"He's going to Scotland."
"Doh."

As we apparently line up for another season of 'Stability' even the Tea Lady is starting to look good right now.

Pochettino to fly back with Davy post World Cup? Howe, Fabergas, Le Bris?
Somebody, anybody?

Likely nobody.

Edit; How long will the 'powers that be' be able to console themselves that the empty seats are all paid for before realising that empty seats buy no beer, no salt and pepper chicken, no blue donuts for the kids, in fact - no Merch of any sort.???
John Davies
69 Posted 28/06/2026 at 23:48:34
Brilliantly written article Michael. Made me smile all the way through the read. Please let there be truth in the rumours so that dour, dismal, dreary Davey can move on - never to return.
Annika Herbert
70 Posted 28/06/2026 at 00:01:21
Mike @ 65, viewing there action so far, I can only assume TFG pay no attention to Everton full stop. Never mind the fans.
Steve Brown
71 Posted 28/06/2026 at 00:44:52
Imagine losing in Moyes and getting compensation for it!

The bagpipes are calling Davey, heed the call from the Glens.
Mike Gaynes
72 Posted 29/06/2026 at 02:09:54
Yes, Annika, so you have repeated many times before. Your lyrics never vary.
Annika Herbert
73 Posted 29/06/2026 at 02:31:29
Mike @ 72, that’s rich coming from TFG’s biggest supporter. I doubt my criticisms match your defensive ones
Mike Gaynes
74 Posted 29/06/2026 at 03:27:50
Same repetitions every time, Annika. Never anything thoughtful, informative or entertaining from you. All your posts look alike.
Paul Murray
75 Posted 29/06/2026 at 04:09:16
Let’s take 15 million out of our transfer kitty and subsidise the Scotland job salary and send him on his merry way. Did what he had to do and bored us all to death. Anyone looking foward this season 😥
Annika Herbert
76 Posted 29/06/2026 at 06:11:55
As do yours Mike, no information, just quotes from elsewhere. That is when you aren’t defending TFG.

Exactly what information do you provide? Apart from quoting from the Athletic, your holy bible.
Jimmy Hardacre
77 Posted 29/06/2026 at 06:52:33
The groundswell of Moyes support is long gone. I am not pointing fingers at any one but, if his ways are acceptable to any Evertonian, then they need to go back, empty their Everton possessions, and join someone else but not us.

We may not have billions to spend but we to a man try our best whether defending Everton in the canteen or turning up to welcome the bus.

If anyone lacks that level of commitment, then go. You will not be missed. Moyes, take note, and go gracefully.
Mick O\\\'Malley
78 Posted 29/06/2026 at 08:21:05
Mike take it from this scouser who has lived in Liverpool all his life, nearly every Everton fan I know want him gone, all my Everton supporting mates want him to go
Paul Griffiths
79 Posted 29/06/2026 at 08:45:35
Me too Mick mate. MG is right to question but he's off the mark here and TWEB is more representative than he thinks. Read what Rob Halligan has said about the away 3,000.
John Collins
80 Posted 29/06/2026 at 08:53:26
I havent spoke to one Everton fan who wants him to stay.
A horrible, toxic season coming up if he doesn't hit the ground running.
Jimmy Carr
81 Posted 29/06/2026 at 08:59:28
If you say you don’t know of any fans who want Moyes gone, you get shouted down on here. I’m in Liverpool, I don’t know of any fans who want him gone, of course, those fans don’t use Toffee Web, but some of them go the game, some don’t.

So it’s highly unlikely that 90% of Evertonians want Moyes sacked. Wishful thinking from the Moyes haters. A poll would be interesting.

All that said, the Scottish FA need to make him the right offer! It’s his destiny!
John Collins
82 Posted 29/06/2026 at 09:03:28
You need to get out more Jimmy
Paul Griffiths
83 Posted 29/06/2026 at 09:13:58
I don't believe you for one second Mr. Carr, unless you have two friends. I'm in Liverpool right now and nobody apart from one or two erm 'realists' out of tons - ONE OR TWO - want him to stay.

You must have self-serving or self-selected friends Mr. Carr.
Jimmy Carr
84 Posted 29/06/2026 at 09:29:51
Ok, so I lied. I mean it’s obvious isn’t it? All those banners saying ‘Sack The Manager’ you see at the Hill Dickie every week. All those anti-Moyes chants you regularly hear at the game. The constant questions asked of him by the media on the back of the massive Anti-Moyes sentiment that somehow I only ever read about on Toffee Web! The endless chat about who the next Everton manager will be every time I get in a cab.

It’s dead obvious that a tiny group of random Toffee Web posters (you could count them on one hand) are 100% right and that every Everton supporter wants Moyes gone. Or at least 90% of them anyway to be scientifically accurate, as that’s important on here. How silly of me to pretend otherwise when the evidence is right in front of me!!

Funny that. 🙂🙂
Paul Griffiths
85 Posted 29/06/2026 at 09:37:10
Keep on coming on Jimmy lad.

Just ignore the comments on here about people and their friends.

Funny that. 🙂🙂
John Collins
86 Posted 29/06/2026 at 10:19:42
Do you attend home games at the Hill Dickie Jimmy?
Brian Harrison
87 Posted 29/06/2026 at 10:54:37
I really cant see any attraction for Moyes to take the Scotland job, first the drop in wages isn't worth it. And there is very few good Scottish players about and the ones that are good most are nearing the end of their careers. The decline in Scottish footballers over the last 40 years has been quite remarkable, most teams had a least a couple of Scottish players and back then most league winning sides had a couple of Scottish players in their teams.

I cant understand why there has been such a decline and with very few Scottish players playing in the Premier league, it makes trying to build a succesful national team near impossible.
Dave Abrahams
88 Posted 29/06/2026 at 10:59:08
John (86) John I think Brother Jimmy lives in a monastery with other silent monks if he’s never heard anyone saying they want Moyes gone, those monks would break their silence if they had to watch Everton under Moyes and their language wouldn’t be nice to listen to.
Steve Brown
89 Posted 29/06/2026 at 11:15:53
Jimmy doesn’t go to the match.

Jimmy isn’t a big fan of Moyes, but blows a gasket when anyone criticises Davie.

And Jimmy doesn’t like people who disagree with Jimmy.
Raymond Fox
90 Posted 29/06/2026 at 11:49:22
A new manager could be a good thing but then again it might not.
I also don't think changing the manager again will make us into a team that challenges for the top. We have tried that scenario umpteen times before and it's not worked, why should it now. Managers are easy and convenient targets as it deflects from focusing on players deficiencies.
If we change Moyes for some wet behind the ears Johnny come lately it could go horribly wrong. I get fans impatience with Moyes but if we do get rid it needs to be for a very good experienced manager.

Sorry for repeating the same conclusion again but in my opinion it's the quality of players in the squad that will bring us success not who is our manager.
John Collins
91 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:11:13
Raymond,

" I also don't think changing the manager again will make us into a team that challenges for the top. "

Keeping the manager definitely makes us a team that won't challenge for the top
John Collins
92 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:11:57
Dave,

Either that or he's mutton
Derek Thomas
93 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:35:40
Raymond@ 90; I think you'll find its a bit of both and as nowadays recruitment is not purely down to the Manager so it's a 3 way thing.

You can buy the best tools, or have them supplied to you, but if you don't use them properly*

'All the Gear - No Idea' is the phrase.

* 'somebody' supplied Moyes with an alleged 'decent' Centre Half, now has he been using him properly?

Anecdotally he is renowned for Sq pegs into round holes - is that best use of the tools provided?

If the 1 forward DCL, Beto or Barry are left isolated, while trying to convert...as best as their various limited skills allow...a couple or 3 of half chances. Whose fault is that?

The Managers actions or lack of must have an effect...and under The Moyes Effect we don't play very well.
Raymond Fox
94 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:42:07
John, as I said I'm not against Moyes leaving, but if it does happen we also need to sign some players who will make us a better team otherwise I think it will be more of the same result wise.
Raymond Fox
95 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:49:13
Derek, I agree with what your saying, it is a bit of both the manager and the players abilities.
My gist is it's no good getting a new manager and not increasing the player quality.
Kevin Naylor
96 Posted 29/06/2026 at 12:56:50
Manager picks the team, team plays crap, manager delays changing it mid match until its too late team gets beat. Next game manager picks same team, team plays crap etc etc. That part of it is 100% down to the manager.
John Keating
97 Posted 29/06/2026 at 13:35:51
Big chit chat up North is Moyes for the Scotland job. Only issue is, as usual, dosh!

The SFA have to get somewhere near what Moyes is getting with us. They want him, that's for sure.
John Collins
98 Posted 29/06/2026 at 14:16:45
www.justgivinggetthemingeout..co.uk.

All donations welcome
Alan McGuffog
99 Posted 29/06/2026 at 14:18:27
The SFA will.need to get their skates on before the French get wise to his being open to a move
Jimmy Carr
100 Posted 29/06/2026 at 14:46:11
The same predictable names who don’t actually read your post properly, then jump to conclusions when you don’t agree with them.

Can you shout a bit louder into your echo chambers, ‘cos I’m sure the owners of Everton are taking your comments about David Moyes really seriously…. 🙂🙂👍
John Collins
101 Posted 29/06/2026 at 15:14:15
"Can you shout a bit louder into your echo chambers, ‘cos I'm sure the owners of Everton are taking your comments about David Moyes really seriously…."

At least someone is. You seem to be in your applecart with the Moyesiah... 👍😁
Paul Murray
102 Posted 29/06/2026 at 15:14:41
You obviously do not sit in the same area of the ground as me as I constantly hear the boos sighs before during and after the game regarding another dour Dave performance. I know of a few fellow fans friends of mine who are willing to let him see the rest of his contract out as it’s only a year but like me would happily see him move on too. I’ve renewed as usual my season ticket but I really had to think about it this year as the football I’m
Watching and manager selections and decisions really pissing me off. I also travel to a fair few away games where you get more of a sense of what the fans think as we all sat in one area and I have yet to hear any David Moyes lovers last season where I travelled. I do agree be careful what you wish for but Dave is a dinosaur and he’s stubborn and won’t change. Tarks will be his number one again this season I’ve got my head in my hands already. Send dour on loan to Scotland for rest of his contract and pay his salary then they can have him on a free transfer 😄. There are lots of managers who would join us for a salary of 5.5 million a year. Enjoy the football this season week in week out because I know the rest of us won’t
Dave Abrahams
103 Posted 29/06/2026 at 15:15:35
John (92) Even if he was mutton he’d still be able to lip read and there was plenty giving Moyes stick at every game— mind you if he doesn’t go to games he wouldn’t be able to do that either.
John Collins
104 Posted 29/06/2026 at 15:17:32
He'd find a way Dave.
John Atkinson
105 Posted 29/06/2026 at 18:33:08
Brilliant!! You said what 99% of Evertonians are thinking. Please go Moyes
Ian Pilkington
106 Posted 29/06/2026 at 19:07:01
I’ve shouted out in anger and frustration during the match many times a failing managers from Gordon Lee to Dyche but never as often as at Moyes last season.

The people who are surprised at my detestation of Moyes are inevitably supporters of other clubs who have forgotten that we were once a top club or Blues who never go to the match.

It is no coincidence that he is also disliked by supporters of West Ham, Sunderland and Manure. Sadly far too many of ours overlooked Moyes’ eleven years of mediocrity propping up the Kenwright regime, but I think most of them have changed their minds by now.
Jay Lewis
107 Posted 29/06/2026 at 19:57:07
Jimmy, I've heard in Kirkdale that even 8 out of 10 cats want Moyes out as well
Terry McLavey
108 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:09:36
Can we have a whip 'round for a taxi for him, but let's face we're not that lucky for him to go!
Liam Mogan
109 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:11:54
Hackney in, Hackney cab out for Jaded Moyes
Keith Harrison
110 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:23:12
Sharp, Liam, Sharp.
Who will hopefully be Moyes assistant at Jockland, God willing!!!!!!
Kevin Naylor
111 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:32:10
The good news is he's not ruled himself out of it yet as he's done previously.
Tony Abrahams
112 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:44:16
Another reason to believe that his agent might be behind this news, Kevin?
Kevin Naylor
113 Posted 29/06/2026 at 20:50:54
Currently 7/2 favourite on Betfair
Joe McMahon
114 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:03:00
Big Ange is out of work, no compensation, and quite frankly more likeable.
Darren Hind
115 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:05:39
Love it Joe

Imagine Tarks and keane's reaction when Ange tells them to push up to half way
Jay Lewis
116 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:05:57
Terry @108 Mate, I'll gladly drive him up to Scotland, forget the price of fuel, I'll take a sacrifice on my wages for the fuel. I could even ask my boss to see if I can borrow a truck and trailer and I'll even help him with furniture, anyone want to give me a hand though?
John Collins
117 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:10:17
Me backs fucked but count me in Jay
Keith Harrison
118 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:11:12
We need to start posting really positive things on here about Davie, in case the Scottish F A read ToffeeWeb.

Mind you, it would be our luck TFG read it and think Davie's doing a sterling job. Instead of the Stirling job, which is what he should be doing
Keith Harrison
119 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:12:19
Bring him up to Carlisle, Jay. I'll take him from there.
Jay Lewis
120 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:19:30
Appreciate the help lads, nice one John and Keith. Keith, if I can borrow the lorry, me and John can take the furniture and you can take Moyes and Mrs Moyes, save me having to talk to the c**t
Keith Harrison
121 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:24:56
No worries pal. Loads of room in the boot.
I wouldn't worry about his furniture, it'll be going back to Ikea on sale or return. It might take you a while to get all the drawing pins out of his wallpaper though, and it could be a long wait for the toilet roll and teabags drying on the clothesline
Jay Lewis
122 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:30:09
Kin ell, imagine hitting some traffic, he'd want to sit back and play it safe rather than come off the M6 and finding an alternative route 🤐
Keith Harrison
123 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:40:55
Off the M6 at J36 towards Barrow, Kendal bypass via A591 through the Lakes, right up to mine, or take the A6 from Lancaster right up to Carlisle mate.
Jay Lewis
124 Posted 29/06/2026 at 21:47:11
Yes mate, I'm a lorry driver, there's a few different options, but Moyes doesn't do different options until it's too late. He'd want to sit in the traffic and just hope that it clears up soon. Fuck it, get on John's just giving link and get him a one way flight up there 👍
Kevin Molloy
125 Posted 30/06/2026 at 10:55:11
this is significant. Good friend of Moyes Allardyce has just given an interview with the Scottish Daily Express saying Scotland should go for the Moyesiah. He would only be weighing in like this at the behest of his mate.
of course it could also be a strategy to make the Friedkins think he's ini demand and so can ask for a longer deal, but that would be a bit Machiavellian,. I think there's a real chance he goes.
Keith Harrison
126 Posted 30/06/2026 at 11:11:00
It's the hope that kills you, Kevin.
Kevin Molloy
127 Posted 30/06/2026 at 11:16:35
of course Keith allardyce could be playing a game of his own, and hoping to boomerang back in himself...
Dave Lynch
128 Posted 30/06/2026 at 11:21:10
I posted a few days ago that my dream was Moyes taking the Scottish job when the current incumbent was sacked.

Alas my dreams rarely come true...
Raymond Fox
129 Posted 30/06/2026 at 11:23:19
I wouldn't get too excited there's zero chance Moyes will take the Scotland job now, he may well do when his contract here is up, but not before.
Dave Lynch
130 Posted 30/06/2026 at 11:26:13
Nagelsman may be given the Spanish Archer as Klippety has been linked with it after their WC exit.

Go balls out for the German if misery arse leaves🙏
Dave Lynch
131 Posted 30/06/2026 at 12:04:27
Ray@129.
Misery gutts is no spring chicken anymore, there's no guarantee he'd be offered it in the future if any new manager is remotely successful.
He may see this as his last chance, no trainer really, part time job on big money, he cant use transfer funds and resources as an excuse though, he'll have the pick of scottish talent.
Andrew Ellams
132 Posted 30/06/2026 at 12:35:03
Not sure why we would want Nagelsman after watching his team during the World Cup. They look slow, dour and devoid of ideas.

All sounds too familiar.
Raymond Fox
133 Posted 30/06/2026 at 12:56:50
Dave @ 131, he can see this next season out, or even if he gets the bullet, pocket a very large cheque probably as much as he would get being the Scotland manager for 8 to 10 years. He might as well sit on his backside after this season because the Scotland job comes with plenty of hassle also.
Dave Lynch
134 Posted 30/06/2026 at 13:32:11
Andrew@132.

Nagleman was very well thought of in the Bundesliga, he won the title with Bayern and won manager of the season as well as other honours.

He plays open attacking football but as you know...International football is a different game, slower, more tactical and full of players who never play as a team for long periods.

And let's be honest...CoCo the clown would be an upgrade on Moyes.
Andrew Ellams
135 Posted 30/06/2026 at 13:41:50
Didi Hamman has slaughtered him today Dave. Especially for his arrogance and lack of attention to detail in his preparation.

I suspect he will need to drop a level now to prove himself again.
Stu Gre
136 Posted 30/06/2026 at 13:51:03
Great article MK. I can't see why Moyes would leave this role tbh, nor why the SFA would buy out his contract when there are free managers about.

However if I was TFG I'd be contacting them and letting them know we'd waive any compensation and throw in his entire backroom for free.

Then, as Daniel #30 said, go and get Glasner who is still available.
Tony Abrahams
137 Posted 30/06/2026 at 14:27:25
There was a time when the Germans, could afford to be arrogant, because it was there attention to detail, that used to set them apart from most of the others, but this has been lacking for a few years now, imo.

I don’t care who we get as our next manager, just as long has his attention to detail is better than everyone else’s!
Andrew Ellams
138 Posted 30/06/2026 at 15:12:19
The Japanese guy it is then Tony because they are by far the best I've seen at it in this tournament
Phil Roberts
139 Posted 30/06/2026 at 15:40:26
I'm one of the 1%.

He arrived in 2001 when - apart from the Joe Royle year - we had flirted with relegation for most of the previous 10. He stabilised the club playing no lose football but then with Yak, Cahill, Baines, Osman, Pienaar, Gravesen, Arteta played some reasonably decent football. Lynx body spray's slogan is "first impressions last" and lots of us (about 99%) remember the early days of his first stay and not the mid to later years.

Bobby Brown Shoes benefitted from his organisation and added Lukaku and we were all happy. With us sliding down again and Moshiri in place we have gone through 6 managers in 9 years and the 99% crave to go back to the free flowing attacking sexy football of those last 9 years. It was a joy to go to GP to see the goals flow in. Wonderful Carlo with James, DCL and Richy with 47 goals in just one season. How many more was that than the horrible football we saw last season? Exactly the same. Can't be. Surely not. Dour Davey's team scoring as many as Carlo's super forwards who we all drooled over.

So 99% want him gone. Replaced by Glasner - whose team scored 41 last season - even less than our awful football.

Basically the 99% want to gamble. A roll of the dice in the hope of a bright young thing who will either reach the stars or crash and burn.

2002/2025 - saved from relegation
2003/2026 - Stability
2004/ - 4th and Champ League.

Personally I don't want crash and burn and would not take the gamble. And given the fortune they have amassed, I don't think TFG are gamblers. They bought a historical brand with a new ground and revenue stream which was locked into the high income EPL for a song as a result of a fire sale from the previous owner. They are not going to risk that. They want a safe pair of hands, no matter how boring it may be.

And let's be fair. Most of us have invested a lifetime into this club and even if 30,000 STH said no more, there are another 30,000 waiting in the queue. And we won't decide to support another club. Moan all you wish, won't make any difference - especially as the owners are never here to see a march down Regents Road with "Moyes Out, Friedkin Out" banners.

And talking of boring - sorry this is a boring letter because it is what will happen, not what 99% want to happen.
John Collins
140 Posted 30/06/2026 at 16:13:19
"Basically the 99% want to gamble"

Basically,the 1% are happy to finish between 10th and 13th EVERY season.

Do you attend home matches Phil?
Tony Abrahams
141 Posted 30/06/2026 at 16:24:45
I can’t agree with your assessment of Japan, even though I love watching them play Andrew.

I thought they got completely overrun during the second half yesterday, and as much as I love watching them, I just thought they were set-up wrong yesterday, which means their coach lacked attention to detail!

All opinions, his high energy strategy would definitely go down well amongst the watching crowd inside Bramley Moore, but going back to that attention to detail, I think it’s pretty clear to me as a longstanding supporter of Everton, that Evertonians, love fast, aggressive, in there face, front foot football, and hey we haven’t really played like that for over forty years.

No wonder we have to suffer the indignity of listening to those taunting kopites, singing that absolutely embarrassing song (to me) every single time we play them.
David Israel
142 Posted 30/06/2026 at 16:53:47
Meanwhile, rumour has it, but better not to spread it, that Bobby Martinez is about to resign or, be relieved of his duties by the Portuguese F.A., unless he takes the prized trophy home, for which, apparently, the bookies place them just above their former colony Cape Verde.
Phil Roberts
143 Posted 30/06/2026 at 20:38:03
John, not every one, but yes.

Tell you what - far happier to finish 10-13th than 15-17th with possible option of 18th to 20th. Or would you prefer the excitement of the latter?

Any views on the last 9 years in comparison? Which ones after BBS was sacked for 14th again, got you really excited and were a return for those days of wonderful school of science football?
John Collins
144 Posted 30/06/2026 at 21:18:50
How many times have we finished 17th in the Prem Phil?
Annika Herbert
145 Posted 01/07/2026 at 04:56:40
Phil @ 139, you mention that Glasner's Palace team scored less than the Moyesiah's Everton.

But you failed to mention Palace actually won something. In fact, during his stint with Palace, hasn't Glasner won more trophies than Dinosaur Dave has in his entire career?

But let's stick with your version of Moyes and enjoy constant purgatory
Stu Gre
146 Posted 01/07/2026 at 09:31:10
He won more in 12 months than Moyes entire career. Also had his team stripped of some of its best players whilst Moyes spent a fortune.

I've said before that if we ever bring a decent manager in again, we need to have patience. Yes they might flirt with relegation but it'll take years to change this culture and it won't be smooth. Most importantly is giving us a chance of winning something, 13th is not winning.
Brian Harrison
147 Posted 01/07/2026 at 09:57:28
John 144

Didnt we finish17th in season 2022/2023 under Dyche and 16th the previous season under Lampard.
Phil Roberts
148 Posted 01/07/2026 at 10:09:33
Do you know what Brian - that was what I thought.

We were also 18th when Koeman was sacked, 18th when Marco Silva was sacked, 19th when Lampard was sacked.
What gets me Brian is the 99% on here never compare Moyes with any of the 5 failures since he was last here and call him out for leaving at the end of his contract to go to United but not Carlo who walked out on the club while still under contract.

And it is like Starmer at PMQs. While he will always point to "the last 14 years. . . . " as a get out of any of his failings, this is the other way around and anything positive compared to the last 10 years is cried down because it is either forgotten or some magical manager would instantly transform this team into one which will stuff PSG 6-0 every time we meet them.
Dave Abrahams
149 Posted 01/07/2026 at 10:43:53
Phil (148) Phil, Moyes had over eleven years first time round compared to all the other managers and won as much as them but always with the same attitude of trying not to lose more than trying to win even in semi finals and one final although he was unlucky in that final playing with a depleted team.
John Collins
150 Posted 01/07/2026 at 10:54:28
At the risk of repeating myself Phil.

How many times have we ENDED the season in 17th position.?
Your original post suggested it was a regular occurance
Steve Brown
151 Posted 01/07/2026 at 11:18:45
Everton’s finishing position under Moyes:

2001–02: 15th
2002–03: 7th
2003–04: 17th
2004–05: 4th
2005–06: 11th
2006–07: 6th
2007–08: 5th
2008–09: 5th
2009–10: 8th
2010–11: 7th
2011–12: 7th
2012–13: 6th
2024-25: 13th
2025-26: 13th

Average position: 9th

9th is not boring or mediocre in the slightest, so best not to gamble and take the risk of finishing higher. Or, god forbid, take the risk of winning a trophy.

As for Glasner as a potential replacement, he disqualified himself by winning the FA Cup and the European Conference League with a club that had never won a major trophy in their history. Not to mention winning the Europa League with Eintracht Frankfurt.

He’s not for us.

Why have steak when you can stick to corned beef?
Raymond Fox
152 Posted 01/07/2026 at 11:47:40
There's too much obsession with managers.
The best jockey in the world can't make a donkey win at Royal Ascot.
John Collins
153 Posted 01/07/2026 at 14:13:50
Phil?
Andrew Ellams
154 Posted 03/07/2026 at 17:51:47
Big Ange gone to Saudi so the chances of Moyes getting the Scotland job just increased.
Raymond Fox
155 Posted 03/07/2026 at 18:17:56
Rugby League 'Magic Weekend' Starts tomorrow Saturday 4/7 there's 4 games to watch and 3 games on the Sunday at the Hill Dickinson Stadium not Anfield, £36 for each day. There's been record sales, I think tickets are still available.
Sunday probably best day to go you'll be able to see Wigan stuff Saints once more!!

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