Di Canio to be tapped up

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Please, please, please can we snap up one of the greatest young managers around someone with flair, excitement and ambition? A man with strong principles and a love of good football who can relate to the fans.

We all know Moyes is holding out for another big payday, hoping another big club comes in for him and even his biggest fans at our club ( I am not a fan of Moyes by the way) want him to go now. I will be so disappointed if we offer Moyes another contract. He should be told we will pay his contract and allow him to sit in the main stand until May.

Di Canio a man of principles would stand up to Billy Liar and hold him to account for us. We are allegedly talking to new investors (convenient that whilst season ticket applications are being sent out), well Di Canio can ensure that this promise is met he is not a 'yes' man and is the right candidate for change. If he is promised money he will ensure he gets the money if there is no money but we sell our stars he will question why.

Di Canio in and new owners the cloud of the Wigan defeat May just have that silver lining,
Dennis Shaw, Liverpool     Posted 12/03/2013 at 09:30:47

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Joe McMahon
556 Posted 12/03/2013 at 19:44:22
Dennis, as much as i'd love DiCanio, we all know this time next year Moyes, Kenwright and a wooden Bullens Road will still be at Everton.
There is a song by The Smiths that sums up everything Everton - Nowhere Fast.
Mark Griffiths
558 Posted 12/03/2013 at 19:51:35
Funnily enough Dennis, I just seen his come and get me statement and thought now here is a man I would like to give a chance to. Great player, will always remember his sportsmanship at goodison and so far a decent young manager who loves attacking silky football. No chance of it happening though!
Dave Willoughby
562 Posted 12/03/2013 at 20:05:32
Please...absolute clown and not right in the head, wouldn't want him anywhere near the club

Interested to hear the latest list of possible replacements

Martinez, Round, Neville!!

Although this line is being overused at present..becareful what you wish for

Joe McMahon
586 Posted 12/03/2013 at 20:41:51
Dave (562) - becareful what you wish for ? As i've said on another thread, would we wish for our current manager, Chairman or Board?
Wayne McNee
594 Posted 12/03/2013 at 20:42:15
I suggested his name here over a year ago & was surprised not to be shot down. I think we all have some sort of respect inbuilt for him from his playing days ( not too shabby ).
What he would bring.... Pride (cockiness if you will) Respect (a preceding reputation) Love (this bloke loves footy & not the ugly stuff) Desire (Mourinhoesque in his own arrogance. What's on the pitch reflects upon himself & his ego. Suffers no slouchers or gobshites). He is not the P.E. Teacher we have installed at present & he will take chances. He'll probably fuck up a few times too. I would be knocking on his door right now if I was BK & I'm not & therein lies the problem.
1/ Does Bill want his own door knocker? No! And someone with balls would be if they hadn't been conveniently compensated not to.
2/ Does He want passion? I don't think so, we don't do passion here & it only leads to aspirations.
3/ Does he want results? Hmmmmm... Yes & no. Nothing that requires further expenditure but not relegation.
4/ Does he want a ginger punch bag who'll not bad mouth him & swallow his big salary?
A different attitude, different board & different outlook would be required before Di Canio even considered coming here. I'm being very careful with my wish & I'm not using it on Di Canio as our boards aspirations don't meet his.
Dave Charles
605 Posted 12/03/2013 at 21:11:07
Sounds wonderful but if Moyes goes all I can see is Alex McCleish on the horizon.
Nick Armitage
609 Posted 12/03/2013 at 21:23:29
More chance of seeing monkeys fly out of your own arse.
Jamie Sweet
612 Posted 12/03/2013 at 21:34:33
"Di Canio a man of principles would stand up to Billy Liar and hold him to account for us".

Bill will decide who is next manager at Everton. He will definitely be looking for his next "yes man", and definitely not someone who might hold him to account.

The advert for the position will probably say "lapdog wanted".

James Martin
622 Posted 12/03/2013 at 21:45:58
Flavour of the month time again. Because he's seemingly got passion it somehow qualifies him for managing one of the top premier league sides? May as well just name any excitable person from any of the Latin countries and offer him forward as manager.

I wouldn't even mind if people put forward genuine viable alternatives to Moyes but last year it was the Lmabert/Rodgers brigade (ominously quiet now both have done nada at big clubs - sorry, Rodgers will probably be hailed as a visionary if he finishes ahead o fus despite spending 50 million more than us this season). This year its the Martinez and any lower league manager who supposedly plays attacking football club. If we do get a new manager god forbid he might come with a trophy or some top division experience on his CV rather than just being hired on the whim of whoever has won a few games recently in legaue 1.

Keith Edmunds
633 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:02:21
Yes, Di Canio a man of principles would walk within 6 months!
Dennis Shaw
635 Posted 12/03/2013 at 21:56:11
James - Not flavour of the month just an available Manager who would cost very little to replace the negative Manager we currently have who is holding us to ransom whilst playing some very poor football.

He is qualified because he has been a top footballer for his Country and played for quality teams in Italy and England. He is qualified because he has earned his coaching badges and showed he has the passion and hunger for success.

If you knew your football you would know Martinez is a top manager as is Di Canio and that Moyes is a safety first steady Eddie pandering to Bill Kenwright holding us back.

Are you hoping that we get Moyes for a further 11 years? Our kids have hardly seen us put a decent performance in recently never mind seen us win anything.

Declan O'Shaughnessy
639 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:02:08
Given Di Canio's links with Italian fascism in the past, I for one simply would refuse to support Everton whilst he was in charge.

I'm sure many of you think that's a betrayal of the club, and that a man's political opinions aren't applicable to his football career. But I would politely disagree with you. I expect more of Everton fans, but there again I probably shouldn't.

Anybody stupid enough to laud "Il Duce" isn't intelligent enough to manage the club that I love.

Dennis Shaw
640 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:05:28
Keith - That's my point he would and then we would see real change the blues still applauding BK and those against him would unite to enforce change if that happened because it would only come anout if BK continued with his trickery. We would have endured more false promises, our best players would have been sold and last minute transfers failed with crap excuses.
Patrick Murphy
641 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:09:59
Don't give him any keys he'll turn us over and run off with all the photographs with Drenthe as his getaway driver.

Sam Hoare
644 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:09:11
Isn't Di Canio on his way to Reading? Either way I'm not convinced by an inexperienced manager who has never won anything or managed in the top leagues. Passion alone does not qualify someone and to me he would represent a seriously risky appointment who could cause division. But he's not Moyes so of course he'll do for most people.
Jamie Sweet
647 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:17:40
I fully expect the next appointment Bill makes to be completely and utterly under-whelming!
Dave Willoughby
648 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:12:47
Joe (586) the issues have always been with the board and lack of investment as we all know, Moyes has been able to get the best out of what he has been given

Looking around I don't see a new manager with the current board doing any better, if anything things will get worse on the field, that's a cert with the likes of Di Canio - that's my big concern, with have stability with a consistent top 8 place, lets hope that doesn't deteriate while we have a board of penniless pockets

Kevin Hudson
656 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:38:51
Loose cannon. Laughable notion.
John Daley
657 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:29:28
"A man with strong principles"

Whose principles? His own or Mussolini's?

The guy is a fully fledged fascist previously accused of racially abusing one of his own players.

"As a boy, di Canio was initiated as an "ultra", or extreme supporter, of SS Lazio (the initials stand for Societá Sportiva), a team founded by Italian army officers in 1900 and the preferred club of Benito Mussolini, "Il Duce", one of the founders of fascism.

The player has, in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual" who was "deeply misunderstood".

He has the word "Dux", the Latin equivalent of "Duce", tattooed on his arm."

He can stick those principles up his arse

I also don't understand the rationale here: " If he is promised money he will ensure he gets the money". How exactly? Pop round Bill's house and threaten to put his head in a vice like he's Joe Pesci in Casino minus the crap wig & shortarse charm? Isn't he more likely just to get into a strop and jack it in?

Wayne McNee
660 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:40:16
Shit or bust! What's the worst that could happen?

I remember the announcement of Moyes. No experience of The Premier League, average Jock hoofer in Scotland as a player! He's worked wonders apparently, so imagine someone with his credentials & a bit of fire in his belly.

The reality is that we won't get a big name manager or player under this regime & Di Canio is quite a far fetched fantasy as we couldn't accommodate his ambition. Discuss....

Growing up I saw the club EFC was & here we are clawing at a shit manager to stay!?

Dean Adams
662 Posted 12/03/2013 at 22:34:14
Declan O'Shaughnessy 639

Whilst your so well versed on all things Di Canio, can you tell us how, who, where and when he was/is guilty of the crimes you accuse him of? Last time I checked there was/is no law that stops anyone from having beliefs, however strange they may seem to the rest of us. I find the whole Catholic thing strange, not because I disagree but because it is not something that I have ever given enough time to to understand. I would not criticise something that I was not sure of, so please enlighten us of your wealth of knowledge regarding Di Canio and his beliefs.

Robert Collins
671 Posted 12/03/2013 at 23:22:56
Dennis Shaw

Hello Dennis

I can't see it happening (though it excites me to think it would, he would have ago and that's an improvement over Moyes). The reason purely the same one why Brian Clough and Bob Paisley were never offered the England Job, they weren't yes men and would have stood up for themselves and what's right.

Di Canio and Kenwright are oil and water. Di Canio would realise at the interview what Kenwright is when he says:

"We don't want you to play too aggressively, 42 pts is plenty enough, don't stretch the team trying to win any trophies or that champions League nonesense, the fans will understand they've got no expectations!"

James Martin
673 Posted 12/03/2013 at 23:31:42
Dennis are you suggesting I don't know my football just because I haven't championed Di Canio's case? being a good player , doing your coaching badges and having perceived passion does not make you a top manager. I know my football well enough to know that countless managers have destroyed the lower leagues with passing football only to be found utterly wanting on every level in the premier league. Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez are the few to have avoided the immediate slip back (lambert may well be on his way) but none of their results have been outstanding. Knwoing m football I also know that before Staurday Martinez had never beaten Moyes, if Moyes is so bad and martinez so great how could this stat exist? Don't bring up the argument of difference in resources because people refuse to accept this the other way. Martinez is a miracle worker for keeping Wigan in the league on a low budget, he's allowed off horrendous losing streaks and utterly abject performances at home all because of a lack of resources. Moyes on the othe rhand is supposed to crash the top 4 win trophies and win away at all the top grounds because resources somehow don't matter when judging him.

Concerning Moyes I don't buy into this myth that you're trying to perpetuate that no one has seen a decent performance in recent times. Before February we'd had a whole 12 months of very good league form with wins against City, United, and Chelsea. If a manager was available who I thought would do better next seaosn than Moyes then I'd have no problem going for him if Moyes left. I believe if given the Fellaini money (what a millstone off our neck that will be) and any of the Tv revenue Moyes would spend it in a way that would improve the team. I don't think it would take that much improvement to get us back into the European places next season. Do I think Martinez would improve our league standing next year? In short no, I think he'll take ages trying to find a way to win with this team, there'll be some exhiliraitng highs perhaps wins at the Emirates or Stamford Bridge and there''d be numeorus embarassing losses at home. I know some people on here would probably trade our premier league status for a win at Anfield and get hung up to a ridiculous extent on certain stats. You can play them any way though, we've got one of the league's best records at the Etihad and Moyes has presided over our single biggest win over Liverpool since Catterick's days. Make of that what you will, I personally don't give these stats any credence.

Robert Collins
675 Posted 12/03/2013 at 23:46:00
Dave Willoughby @ 562

Hello Dave,

I don't think Martinez would come to us, if he keeps Wigan up (and wins FA Cup (not impossible!)), he'll probably wait for something bigger.

I name I haven't seen mentioned and on that I think is very probable and BK's style, is a quiet man who just gets on with his job without any fuss and wouldn't test BK too much (just like DM): Chris Houghton.

Chances are though we'll be in the same position next year we are now (where's the Prozac?).

Phil Davies
682 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:04:26
For me it has got to be Roberto Di Matteo, a young exciting manager who knows how to win games and has won trophies, more than anything we need a manager who knows how to win trophies. We signed Moyes from Preston, and he brought that Preston mentality with him of never turning up for the big games.

The only problem is, we don't choose our next manager, Kenwright and his band of merry thieves do, so expect a puppet who isn't going to kick up a fuss if he isn't getting transfer money, And definitely don't expect a manager with a big mouth like Di Canio.

Seamus Murphy
686 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:29:57
Sam Hoare - you say "I'm not convinced by an inexperienced manager who has never won anything or managed in the top leagues".

This is your argument for sticking with Moyes?

So exactly what experience had Moyes when he joined? What trophies had he won? What top league had he managed in?

The irony.

James Martin
687 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:37:51
The scenario is different now, Seamus, than when Moyes came in. Trophies were probably the last thing on BK's mind when he sacked Walter Smith. Moyes was brought in to assure survival, his lack of top flight experience or trophies wasn't that pressing.
Robert Collins
691 Posted 12/03/2013 at 23:54:31
John Daley @ 657

Do you know what your talking about?

"I also don't understand the rationale here: " If he is promised money he will ensure he gets the money". How exactly? Pop round Bill's house and threaten to put his head in a vice like he's Joe Pesci in Casino minus the crap wig & shortarse charm? Isn't he more likely just to get into a strop and jack it in? "

Check you history!

"il Duce" wiped the Mafia out! It was one of the reasons why the Italian people embraced him so much early on (and probably a reason why Di Canio likes him).

Aren't your words the words of a typical front line black shirt, who's been fed generalisations about another country, but is really clueless about what's going on.


Whether you agree with Di Canio's politics or not, he's stood up for what he believe's in, which is more than what most people do.

As a nation we're trying to topple Assad in Syria (what a fascist twat, blood of thousands on his hands), but at the same time his money is in our banks (unconfiscated, nice eh?), have you wrote to the government or to any other forums expressing your moral outrage?

I can give you lot's of examples of nasty dictatorships we've propped up if you want (and other deeds our peace loving and democratic nation has done), we vote for the Government that does it!

Are you as clean as you think you are?

Di Canio doesn't have the blood of thousands on his hands.

He probably just has a clearer conscience than many because he speaks his mind and doesn't hide who he is.

Seamus Murphy
693 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:36:59
James Martin. Where do I start. You really do spout some shite. You start by saying:
"If we do get a new manager god forbid he might come with a trophy or some top division experience on his CV rather than just being hired on the whim of whoever has won a few games recently in Legaue 1."

As I said to Sam, can you see the irony of what you are saying here? So let me get this straight, you only want a new manager if he has a trophy under his belt? If not you're happy to stick with one who has none in 11 years? (And that's just with us.)

Your second post really is full of the most ill-thought-out bullshit I have had the mis-pleasure of reading on this site in recent times. I was about to spend a few mins cutting and pasting the most ridiculous parts but on reflection I couldn't be arsed because its pointless.

One point that I can't pass on commenting on though is your hilarious comment about foreseeing numerous embarrassing losses. What, like 7-1? Or 5-1 to some no mark Romanian team? Some of the most embarrassing defeats this club has ever suffered have been under your hero (and we get these without the faintest possibility of an away win at a big club like you mention).

And finally what kind of a cock claims that other fans would trade out Premier League status for a win at Anfield? Seriously man, do you even think about what you write?

Tony J Williams
694 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:56:49
He's still a fucking head the ball though Robert. Many posts on here are calling Moyes out for being arrogant......... and then suggest Di Canio for manager.......believe me, the irony is not lost on me.
Tony J Williams
695 Posted 13/03/2013 at 01:03:14
Do you Seamus, your "big teams" obviously don't include the current Champions and the side currently in third place then?
Fran Mitchell
696 Posted 13/03/2013 at 01:07:40
I remember an interview in a magazine some years back in which Di Canio said that Mussolini was his hero and role model.

During his time at Lazio, he would celebrate by saluting (in traditional neo-nazi style) the famously neo-nazi 'supporters' group who have turned up at the training ground of lazio to block the entrance of black players in the past.

Besides the fact he'd probably walk after 6 months or the first sale of a star player or the fact that he aint managed beyond league 1. Paul Ince did great job at Macclesfield and Mlton Keynes, ballsed up in the P.L.

So an unproven fascist is our new saviour? Nah ta!

Martinez would be an option, with Neville as assitant.

Beyond him, there aint many. Maybe Poyet (he was flavour of the month a few months ago, is he still any good?) or someone like Neil Lennon from Celtic is also a long shot.

Fran Mitchell
697 Posted 13/03/2013 at 01:16:44
Whoever it is, we'll have 50% who hate him after 6 months (minimum) and we won't win the league
Eugene Ruane
698 Posted 13/03/2013 at 00:49:12
Declan (639) & John (657) — Agree completely. To be honest I'm staggered. Do people REALLY know so little about fascism?

Seriously, would it honestly be worth having someone with his beliefs at Everton because he MIGHT get a few results? "Yeah ok he's a fan of Mussolini like and he's a fascist — a political belief that has racism at it's core — but fair play, remember when he caught that ball?"

Seamus Murphy
700 Posted 13/03/2013 at 01:25:39
Tony - you know fine well the clubs I'm referring to. James mentioned Stamford Bridge and the Emirates for example. I accept the away wins at City and Spurs were fantastic, definitely some of the high points of Moyes tenure. But we have never win away at the reigning champions, that's a fact, even if you are trying to imply that we have. We also have never won away at a club that has finished third either under Moyes despite your point about the team "currently' in third.

For the record, I wouldn't agree with Di Canio for the job either, but any name that is ever suggested is just shot down with this tripe by some, usually the same brigade who wouldn't hear a bad word uttered against the moyesiah. And many of the arguments are laughable in their irony.
My personal choice would be Slaven Bilic. (Cue Bilic character assassination).

Dave Willoughby
705 Posted 13/03/2013 at 03:07:24
Rob...

If we looking at replacements, I would possibly opt for Paul Lambert — he's been told to cut the wage bill at Villa and not given a chance to carry on where he left off at Norwich, I think he could do a solid job with us.

Just another thought... Hughton is a good shout as well.

Sam Hoare
709 Posted 13/03/2013 at 03:45:04
Seamus Murphy, 686.... Ermm, he's managed in the premier league for the last 11 seasons and in the vast majority of them finished higher than every other team with comparable financial resources.
David Nicholls
731 Posted 13/03/2013 at 07:46:05
I think it has been a huge surprise that Di Canio was as successful as he was at Swindon. I certainly never had him down as management material. Too much of a head-case but fair play, he did well. I'm not bothered that he has Fashist beliefs. Fashnu was a dirty bugger when he played for Wimbledon and he was damn annoying on Gladiators.

That said, I think Everton should be aiming higher if Moyes was to walk away.

The OP states that even Moyes's bigest supportes now want him gone? I disagree and would argue that most Everton fans would welcome him signing a new contract. Maybe we can get a Poll on the scene guys?

James Martin
734 Posted 13/03/2013 at 08:20:08
Seamus if you could stop insulting me for a second you might actually write something worthwhile. If you read my post properly you'd see that I said if we were to replace Moyes i'd rather it was for someone with trophies. What's wrong with that, the club didn't have that criteria when they were hiring Moyes. If it is 12 years ago then Martinez would probably be a good candidate but I think we need more now. I'm not arguing for Moyes above anyone else in world football, I'm arguing for Moyes above Martinez.

I then said that people use single statistics in order to beat Moyes and then cited two equally irrevelavant stats about his win over Liverpool and his record at City. You almost choked on the profanities you were spouting out over thisthen laughably cited two losses that you could think of in 11 years. So what, United got beaten 6-1 at home by City, Probably their worst loss ever, individual games mean nothing.

Faintest whiff of an away win (putting aside a minute that it is four lcubs of your choice and not the current top teams in England), there's been load so fitmes we've ocme close to the win mos tnotably at the Emirates only for that last minute deflected goal to go in. Is that not a whoff of a win, the stat is still inexcusable but don't make stuff up its not as though we've never looked like we might win.

Seamus you just belong to this sad generation of revisionists on this site that are so bent out of shape by anger that they can do little more than personally insult whoever posts anything that doesn't fit into their deluded hypocritical world view.

Laurie Hartley
737 Posted 13/03/2013 at 08:39:57
Wrong Italian,
I'd rather have Roberto Di Matteo, he won the Champions League and FA cup 6 months into the job.
Now a man with a point to prove if given a chance.
Andrew Ellams
745 Posted 13/03/2013 at 09:29:02
Di Matteo had his short term success at Chelsea playing defensive, dull football. KITAP1 if you will. Didn't somebody say recently on here 'Be careful what you wish for'.

Klinsmann and Bilc play good attacking football but I doubt they would come without the transfer pot. I still can't see beyond Martinez.

Laurie Hartley
751 Posted 13/03/2013 at 09:40:20
Andrew,
I'm just looking at his CV.
Di Matteo got his team promoted from the Championship.
Played Barcelona twice - Won 1 Drew 1.
Prepared to drop players who are not performing even for big games. (Torres for Juventus)
He also appears to be both determined and lucky.
He ticks a lot if my boxes.

Martinez will not come to Goodison if Wigan stay up. Do we want him if they go down?

Andrew Ellams
754 Posted 13/03/2013 at 10:32:36
Laurie, he was found out pretty quickly at Chelsea as soon as he had to prepare his team for a new season and lost some of the week in week out momentum he had gained in the short term. He was all about inspiration and fell short tactically
Oliver Molloy
756 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:02:49
If Moyes leaves,it will be Roberto Di Matteo in
Gavin Ramejkis
758 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:04:37
Fran, Lennon at Celtic is an utter arsehole so far up his own hoop it's hard to believe and if you think Di Canio would cause trouble not half as much as that sectarian prick does.

We need a manager with killer instinct and one who has the conviction to go with blending youth and hunger into his squad just as Joachim Loew did with the German national side after he took the reigns from Klinsmann, that isn't a current British trait. Even Loew is still looking to new youth for this year.

Christian Gawne
761 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:22:28
Who will Kenwright appoint?

My money is on a Curbishley type of individual.

Desperate for a job so will do as he is told.

So the list may well be:

Alan Curbishley
Mark Hughes
Shteve Mclaren.
etc etc etc...

God help us.

Jeff Beaumont
765 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:18:49
Stop speculating about a new manager.
Moyes will sign a new contract - for 12 months with a get out clause,& this time next year will go all through this once again
Robert Collins
768 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:47:11
ave Willoughby @ 705

Hello Dave,

Yes, Lamberts definitely a contender and I feel the need to remind all that even Moyes early on had a flirt with relegation, I'm interested to see if he keeps them up (just like Martinez).

It's a difficult one, you can find pros an cons for them all. I don't envy BK his job if he finds the backbone to make the choice.

They're all at the same level, Martinez, Houghton and Di Canio, that being, unproven at a club with EFC's stature.

There is also Di Matteo, who I think does have a decent tactical brain and won the CL, but having said that there's one or two of us who would have won the CL given the talent in that team. I heard an interesting rumour about Di Matteo, it's that he rubbed up the wrong way a lot of the staff at WBA with his attitude/arrogance to the little people?

Fran Mitchell
773 Posted 13/03/2013 at 12:15:43
Gavin,

No stating who I want, just that Lennon is someone I could see B.K. hiring.

Hughes, Di Matteo, Bilic ( what has he ever achieved by the way?), Klinsmann it wont be.

I believe it will be 1 of Lennon, Martinez or Neville. None of whom will 'take us to the nxt level'

James Cadwaladr
777 Posted 13/03/2013 at 12:34:31
Di Canio wouldnt last 5 minutes at Everton before he walked out in disgust of the board.
James Cadwaladr
778 Posted 13/03/2013 at 12:36:28
I said on an earlier thread, that my first choice would be Neville....Gary Neville!!!
James Morgan
785 Posted 13/03/2013 at 11:29:34
My first choice would be Laudrup but can't see that happening. Would be quite happy with Martinez, would prefer a Di Canio with a bit more experience.

Gary Megson, anyone?

Nick Entwistle
787 Posted 13/03/2013 at 12:51:11
Garey fucking Megson? I'm not sure if you're joking or not. Makes Moyes look like Rinus Michels.

Laudrup's signed a new contract, and Di Canio is a headline grabber, with a lower league record often repeated by many fat blokes called Stan or Ian.

Frank Ryjkaard. Make a statement.

Matthew Williams
815 Posted 13/03/2013 at 13:28:08
No chance on Di Canio! He's a bit too showy, outspoken & racist IMO. He'll more than likely wind up at West Ham at the end of the season.

Martinez is a good shout, gets his young team playing good stuff, but always just escapes relegation season after season & usually gets spanked a few times along the way... 9-1 at Spurs anyone!

I know i'll be given down the banks by my fellow ToffeeWebbers, but I remember a while back Leeds playing some great passing stuff under Simon Greyson: entertaining, exciting & plenty of goals spread throughout a young attacking team... Oh to see some of that at Goodison!

I know he was sacked there, but it was by Ken Bates & Leeds have plodded on since. (Apart from the League Cup, again!!!)

To be honest, at the moment, I'd settle for anyone who could bring some pride back!!!

James Flynn
833 Posted 13/03/2013 at 14:04:52
I'll shout again for Solskjaer.
Robert Collins
843 Posted 13/03/2013 at 15:16:19
James Flynn @ 833

Excellent player, good as manager in Scandinavia, but those Scandinavian leagues are a world apart from our Prem or even the Championship. That's a possible negative for me.

Tony Sullivan
850 Posted 13/03/2013 at 16:19:40
Keep this fascist away from our club.
Bill Griffiths
869 Posted 13/03/2013 at 17:13:04
I know football in the main is a matter of opinions but you've got to be joking here. You've obviously got less of a brain than De Canio if you are being serious.
Rob Dolby
875 Posted 13/03/2013 at 17:22:29
If Moyes does decide enough is enough then I wouldnt mind us going for Marcelo Alberto Bielsa.
He had Athletico Bilbao playing some great stuff last year and with a tight budget and local basque player restrictions he already knows a thing or 2 about running a club with both hands tied behind his back. He would also probably work for less than 80k a week.
Ross Edwards
895 Posted 13/03/2013 at 19:01:19
We need a manager that is out of work at the moment so we don't have to pay compensation to their club. We need a man with experience of managing in big games and tournaments who plays good attacking football who players want to sign and play for. And for me that man is Frank Rijkaard.
Andy Crooks
931 Posted 13/03/2013 at 20:14:06
It seems odd to me that anyone should want De Canio as manager. Personally I wouldn't want a fascist as manger but some Evertonians see it differently,fair enough. To me being an admirer of Mussolini suggests a fundamentally flawed character but that's not my point.

In my view De Canio is a pretentious, ridiculous drama queen who will walk out whenever the going gets tough. Histrionics are not principles and what has he done to suggest he could manage Everton? We would not be ignoring a potentially great manager because of his wacky political beliefs, we would be avoiding a crowd pleasing buffoon with a nasty streak. A bit like his hero, actually.

Colin Glassar
937 Posted 13/03/2013 at 20:58:39
Di Canio was a very talented footballer with a very dodgy character. I agree with Andy Crooks I don't want some goose stepping fascist in charge at Everton. But I do want someone who will stand up to billy bullshitter and refuse to be his poodle.
Steve Round will probably be our next manager then.
Eugene Ruane
938 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:03:30
Colin - that Steve Round comment is one truly TERRIFYING thought.

Basically Moyes lite.

Colin Glassar
949 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:21:11
Eugene, Round ticks all the boxes for BK. He's loyal, won't spend money, will toe the line, won't demand free theatre tickets for friends and family, loves a microphone, has a nice haircut, knows the club/players, has BK's Corrie appearances on DVD, wont rock the boat etc....... Perfect. A match made in heaven.
Brendan McLaughlin
952 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:28:27
Steve Round....Moyes but without the charisma
Sam Hoare
955 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:31:19
Bielsa, Rijkaard, Laudrup, Phillipe Montanier and Bilic would all be quite attractive options but probably unrealistic.

Martinez, Di Matteo, Adkins, Steve Clarke and maybe Poyet might be more realistic options; i'm not totally sold on any of them but one of them might work out well.

Mclaren, Hughes, Steve Bruce, Neville, Round and Curbishley are in the 'Please God no' pile that we will probably end up with.

Patrick Murphy
957 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:43:26
What about that bloke who was in charge of Blackburn... Keen was it? Only Joking!

Robert Collins
958 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:44:20
Sam Hoare @ 955

Chris Houghton fits into that middle bunch and is BKs type of man (won't ask too many questions).

Barry Rathbone
962 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:39:27
I must admit to liking Di Canio and believe this club would benefit from a bolt of lightening like him a bit of "shit or bust" wouldn't go amiss at the convalesence home Goodison has become.

But I've just read about his political affiliations and yes he is a fascist sharing the same views as Mussolini - why must charismatic men be such nutters?

Andy Crooks
969 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:43:04
Sam, I'd add Glenn Hoddle to the first list. Chris Hughton Roy Keane and Martin Jol to the second list and David Jones and Alex Mcleish to the third.

I'd also have a fourth list which would consist of David O'Leary, Neil Lennon, Dick Advocaat and Mick McCarthy. This list comprises candidates who would make one consider never watching football again.

If and when Moyes goes I expect that the next permanent coach will be someone never mentioned on ToffeeWeb,

Kevin Tully
970 Posted 13/03/2013 at 21:55:26
We need someone who won't be patted on the head on their way out of Old Trafford, or the Emirates - Fergie giving it the old " he's doing a great job there" (as they twat us for the umpteenth time.)

We need a manager who fucking hates the shite as much as we do.

We have been too nice for far too long, I want ref's to be shit scared about sending off one of our players, no more Osman shrugging in front of the ref to show his displeasure.

I want us to turn into a bunch of snarling, moaning, tough tackling nutters who can play a bit - the new modern day Leeds, fuck all this nice Everton who don't complain bollocks - look where that got us!!

Kev Johnson
975 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:00:21
Kevin - who would be the right manager to instill this team of "snarling, tough tackling nutters who can play a bit". Hold on, I've got just the man: Roy Keane! Only problem is that he's a terrible manager. Ho hum.
Paul David
976 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:15:08
The way i'm feeling I don't care who the next manager is as long as he isn't Scotish or an ex centre half.
Brendan McLaughlin
977 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:17:24
Andy #969
Glen Hoddle...God help us...then again with Glen in charge maybe HE would!
Steve Jones
982 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:19:05
Solskjaer would be an interesting prospect - I think we'd be a good fit for him in the Prem as well...got more quality than the Readings of the league but a track record of being willing to let a manager build his squad.

Heard that Coppell was being lined up before Moyes got the job way back when. Could see Kenwright looking in his direction again.

Sam Hoare
983 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:36:23
Andy, have to say i'm with Kevin Johnson on this one and for me Roy Keane would go straight into the third or maybe fourth list. Is Glenn Hoddle still managing? Talking off older managers I heard Hiddink said he would not rule out a return to the Premiership today. Now that would be an interesting if highly improbable appointment!
Kev Johnson
987 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:41:08
Sam - I'm afraid I'm going to commit the cardinal sin here, which is disagreeing with you when you're agreeing with me!

I don't actually rate Keane, I was just making a suggestion based on Mr Hudson's criteria. I mean, he ought to be a good manager, but his track record shows he isn't. He is probably a better TV pundit than coach.

Happily, I'm with you on Bielsa and Bilic. Feel free to disagree with me at this point, just to even things up, mate!

Here's a thought: Joe Royle. He's younger than Ferguson!

Peter Warren
988 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:47:17
Andy 969 you mention Glen Hoddle. I too think he is a super manager. But you also say you wouldn't want a fascist in charge yet imply Hoddle with his comments about disabled people is Karma etc is ok. Seems a little odd
Andy Crooks
994 Posted 13/03/2013 at 22:52:39
Peter I would totally condemn Hoddles's ludicrous comments. I think,however that he made the comments out of awkwardness and stupidity and subsequently regretted them. I don't belief comparing him to an admirer of a fascist murderer is accurate. I take your point .though,as I accept judging morals is subjective and some Evertonians may have been mightily outraged by Hoddle.
Peter Warren
996 Posted 13/03/2013 at 23:03:14
Fair point Andy and he did apologise although whether it was genuine is another matter. I just hope we have some excitement next season - if Moyes was committed and a long term plan surely he would start playing a few you youngsters – Duffy and Barkley. Jelavic should be dropped or play with another striker.
Kev Johnson
998 Posted 13/03/2013 at 23:29:28
Flipping heck - if we're ruling out everyone who has ever done anything wrong then we're gonna have a pretty short shortlist for the manager's job.

Saint Francis of Assisi would be OK, I suppose. Although he did once stand on a snail.

Dennis Shaw
003 Posted 14/03/2013 at 00:13:40
Kevin - Get real will you Di Canio has certain views and opinions he is NOT however racist or mentally ill so your links with Nick Griffin and David Icke don't really work.

What do I think he will bring well the first thing is a buzz about the place, a bit of excitement a much needed lift to us fans. Next he will instill flair, fast flowing attacking football someting we have been crying out for for years and guess what if Naismith or Neville cant keep up he would drop them and allow youth ( Barkley / Junior ) to come into the team. He would hold the board to account and won't put up with BS.

Before you write a lazy reply misquoting his views actually research what he has achieved as a player and manager ( admittedly in lower divisions but with less talented players).

I can't be arsed googling a witty 'stupid' phrase.

James Stewart
005 Posted 14/03/2013 at 00:28:00
@758 spot on. I would be not be looking to a British manager either for those traits. Lennon is not a good manager and doesn't deserve to even be mentioned. And quite frankly I think we have had just about our fill of dour Scots!
Josh Doherty
009 Posted 14/03/2013 at 01:03:07
What we need is someone who isn't currently employed (cheaper), has a good record in top flight football and provide a fairly risk free alternative to the likes of Di Canio. Someone who is as safe as Moyes but will move us forward and actually knows how to win trophies.

There is only one person who I think fits that description; Kenwright will probably never even try him: his name is Laurent Blanc.

Sam Hoare
019 Posted 14/03/2013 at 04:18:06
Kev Johnson 987, some confusion maybe as I do and did agree with you about Keane being a poor manager. Though would be entertaining imagining him grabbing BK round the neck when it came to transfer war chests!
Iain Johnston
020 Posted 14/03/2013 at 04:28:19
I think Di Canio is probably on his way to Reading. If Moyes does leave, we'll end up with someone like Stuart McCall — and he'll bring Faddy back!!
Geoff Trenner
097 Posted 14/03/2013 at 14:56:19
Denis, Mr Di Canio never played for Italy
Kevin Hudson
148 Posted 14/03/2013 at 17:50:49
Dennis,

I am aware that my examples were inaccurate & frivolous, etc..

No need to tell me to "get real," as I'll let you in on a secret:

.....I was just having a little fun with Collins.

Anyway, hateful politics aside, Di Canio wouldn't work for me; Moyes's successor must have proven top-flight pedigree. An up-and-coming, lower league manager was okay in 2002, but thanks to Moyes's efforts we are now in a position to attract higher class (than Moyes was) now.

Graham Mockford
158 Posted 14/03/2013 at 18:31:06
Of all the lower league managers I think the outstanding candidate is Gus Poyet. Has PL experience both as an great player and as first team coach when Spurs won the Carling Cup.
Since then he has got Brighton promoted from League 1 and now on the edge of the playoffs. Also knocked Newcastle out of the Cup two years on the bounce.
He is too the best of my knowledge neither a fascist or to quote Tony " a fucking head the ball"
Kev Johnson
159 Posted 14/03/2013 at 18:49:41
Not a bad shout, Graham. He's done pretty well... Although, scratching around for a reason to dislike him, I can recall him totally backing up his compatriot Mr Suarez when the racism issue was red hot after Ratboy's run in with Evra. So, that's him ruled out.

Steven Telford
161 Posted 14/03/2013 at 18:48:08
Just a small point to add, lovely chap, salt of the earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xpDixwO6mE

You really want this fucking nut case?

Paul David
162 Posted 14/03/2013 at 18:54:37
Heading the ball was one of Poyet's strengths.
Ross Edwards
179 Posted 14/03/2013 at 19:47:38
Why can't we get Zola or Poyet as player manager? Even in their mid 40s they are still better players than most of our midfield, particularly Osman.
Graham Mockford
199 Posted 14/03/2013 at 20:37:18
Was just thinking having raised the subject of Poyet how few South American players have played for Everton. Racking my brain I came up with 5. Anyone do better? I managed Rodrigo, Da Silva, Jo, Castillo and Straq. Any more?
Kristian Boyce
206 Posted 14/03/2013 at 20:50:12
I honestly think the person that will chose our next boss is David Moyes. The way he is, means that he'll want full control of who replaces him, plus he knows Kenwright hasn't a clue when it comes to picking bosses. Remember 11 years ago, Smith recommended Moyes on his way out, Kenwright wanted Megson. I reckon Moyes has already told Kenwright who to go for.
John Ford
221 Posted 14/03/2013 at 21:11:50
He's a fascist. He openly supports a bloke responsible for murdering many people because their opinions didnt match his own.

It matters.

No ta.

Colin Wainwright
222 Posted 14/03/2013 at 21:17:37
Fuck that. Horrible gobshite.
John Ford
225 Posted 14/03/2013 at 21:21:48
If he goes I'd consider Martinez, Solsjaer, Laudrup. BKs reputation would severely limit our options.
Tony Christian
351 Posted 15/03/2013 at 08:41:44
IF Moyes leaves then expect either Alex McCleish, Mark Hughes, Steve McLaren, Neil Lennon or Owen Coyle

Dream on if you expect anything different

Steven Telford
374 Posted 15/03/2013 at 10:00:11
@Tony 351, all the more reason to hope he signs.
I was very suprised to see the results of the latest toffeeweb poll
Tony Christian
377 Posted 15/03/2013 at 10:07:46
@steven374 In an ideal world Id love to see a new start - new chairman, manager and investment however I agree that if it was between David Moyes and any if the above then Moyes it would be.
Anthony Flack
448 Posted 15/03/2013 at 13:36:34
Names to makes us hope we hand on to Moyes (I would like him to go but only if there is an upside)

D'Canio mmm, rather have Poyet or (sorry if this upsets people) the fat Spanish Waiter

But fear -
Allardyce
McLaren
O'Leary
McLeish
Round
Neville
Reid
Hughes


Ross Edwards
588 Posted 15/03/2013 at 21:15:28
If McClaren was appointed he'd probably speak with a thick scouse accent at his first press conference in his bizarre attempts to fit in wherever he is managing.
Steven Telford
596 Posted 15/03/2013 at 21:24:59
@Tony 377
Cheers!


Steven Telford
601 Posted 15/03/2013 at 21:41:11
Did the (subjective) value of Martinez jump JUST BECAUSE Liverpool ran after him?
I am not saying he is a bad manger, it’s just people who criticise Moyes on the grounds of mediocrity and thereafter suggest Martinez as a fresh replacement……. Well draw your own conclusion as to how they justify their reasoning. Call a spade a spade please.
Brendan McLaughlin
606 Posted 15/03/2013 at 22:08:11
Steven #374
Surprised...why exactly?
Steven Telford
947 Posted 16/03/2013 at 20:17:47
Brendan #606
Great game today eh ;-)
Brendan McLaughlin
957 Posted 16/03/2013 at 20:20:31
Steven #947
Fantastic game :-) squared. Still don't get why you're surprised?

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