Reports: Everton 'closing in' on Delph signing

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Updated Everton are close to securing Manchester the City's Fabian Delph in a deal worth between £8m and £10m according to reports.

The England international has a year left on his contract at the Etihad and his status as more of a fringe player in Pep Guardiola's first-team means he could be looking for a new challenge this summer.

At the age of 30 29 and with a chequered injury record behind him, he doesn't fit Marcel Brands's usual criteria but The Times's Paul Joyce and The Telegraph claim that the Blues are on the verge of signing him as they seek to add his experience and versatility at a low price.

The Mail say that the player is due to have a medical tomorrow ahead of putting pen to paper on a 3-year deal. The transfer will see Everton pay an initial £8.5million for the Manchester City midfielder which will rise to £10m with add-ons.  


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Tony Abrahams
1 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:09:25
Delph’s a good player, Cristy, but he doesn’t do anything different from your mate James McCarthy, so I’d sooner get our own player really fit.
Brian Williams
2 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:12:27
Nah we're not!
Stuart Tolen
3 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:33:42
Does not feel like a Brands or Silva type of player given his age. It maybe linked to Gana Gueye rumours of PSG wanting him.

Not sure Delph could do that job and actually not sure what job he could do. It feels like he has not played a lot of games in the last 3 years either.
Derek Knox
4 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:36:21
Brian, totally agree, maybe 5 or 6 years ago, when we were often linked to him then (at Villa/Leeds) but apart from anything else it's his age doesn't seem to fit the new criteria, and would he be any better than who we have at present?
Fran Mitchell
5 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:40:49
Should both Schneiderlin and McCarthy leave (as well as Besic), it could be a smart move for a player who was excellent at Villa. I guess it depends on the cost, and his wages. But an international, 29 years of age, could offer experience to our rather young, and inexperienced squad.

However, would he not block the progress of the likes of Joe Williams, who could well do a job as a 4th choice centre mid?

Steve Ferns
6 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:47:30
He's not going to get in the current central midfield and he's not going to get into the side at left back. Why would he swap Man City's bench for ours? It's a load of nonsense. He'll move for games now, he's got the money and the medals, he'll just want to play.
Christy Ring
7 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:50:28
Never rated him, and Guardiola mostly played him at left back. Definitely not worth £16m, he should give a fully fit McCarthy a chance in preseason.
Andrew Ellams
8 Posted 09/07/2019 at 19:55:33
30, injury prone and on Man City wages, don't see it.
Ian Bennett
9 Posted 09/07/2019 at 20:01:58
Can only see it if Besic, Schneiderlin and McCarthy go. Delph is in his last year if contract, so sub £10m could be a decent buy.
Martin Berry
10 Posted 09/07/2019 at 20:03:11
Aaron Mooy – far better, a year younger and cheaper too if you're looking for experience to bolster the team.
Mike Connolly
11 Posted 09/07/2019 at 20:18:10
Hope not! He's very overrated. In his prime he wasn't pulling up tree. How he gets in the England team is beyond me. He would probably struggle getting a game at Arrowe Park on a Sunday
David Pearl
12 Posted 09/07/2019 at 20:24:41
He's probably one of those players that we would only appreciate if he played for us. This is only going to be an option if we lose a couple midfielders. Or Gana. It's all going to get busy in the next couple of weeks, theres not long left.
Andrew Keatley
13 Posted 09/07/2019 at 21:21:05
Delph is a good player. Always liked him. He’s a great competitor - but he’s very prone to an over-exuberant challenge, and is a little too reliant on his left foot.

If Gana is off then I’d much rather have him in our squad than the cowardly Schneiderlin or the sadly injury-prone McCarthy. I know Delph has had his own injury problems, but I think he’s still got 3 or 4 years at the top; £10 million would be good business.

Jack Convery
14 Posted 09/07/2019 at 21:34:52
Does not fit the template of the players we are after. it will be interesting to see if the M&M set up sticks to the policy on this one. If they don't' I would suggest they have given up on McCarthy as they have done with Besic and the price must be very cheap indeed.
Denis Richardson
15 Posted 09/07/2019 at 21:35:09
As mentioned above, a lot depends on Gana. If he leaves we’ve got a pretty big hole to fill on the middle.

Unlike some, I have absolutely zero confidence that James McCarthy would come close to filling it. He’s hardly played any competitive games in the last 4 years and was not that good to begin with. (His one ok season was 5 years ago!) I expect/hope McCarthys off the wage bill come 31 August. If not he’ll leave on a free in 12 months having collected another £2.5m in wages turning up to training.

Delph, if cheap (including wages) may not be a bad signing. Would rather someone better but depends on who’s available and how much they cost I guess. Still not a priority position (yet).

Christy Ring
16 Posted 09/07/2019 at 22:28:22
Denis @15 If you think Delph could fill in for Gana, you're having a laugh, at City when Fernandinho was out, Guardiola didn't play Delph because he tackles in the same way as Scholes did, over the top.
Paul Birmingham
17 Posted 09/07/2019 at 22:52:58
For me this is hopefully media bull, the lad had his time 6 years ago, and I don’t see the point.

Hopefully MB will have his traps and stratedgy in place to get his type of players in this next 3 weeks, the sooner the better.

Brian Wilkinson
18 Posted 09/07/2019 at 23:00:34
If Gaye is leaving then makes sense, same age as Gaye and quite a few years younger than a so called finished Gareth Barry when we brought Barry into the team.

I am one of only a few who thinks he would come in and do a job for Everton, plenty worse players out there.

Again dependent of if Gaye is staying, or moving on.

Kenn Crawford
19 Posted 09/07/2019 at 23:03:54
Sorry Delph is way past his best and overrated injury prone and how he ever makes the England team amazes me, and whoever suggested Mooy was a better bet has got to be joking championship player at best.
Tom Bowers
20 Posted 09/07/2019 at 23:11:34
Yep, Delph always over-rated in my book and certainly should not be in the England squad but he is with Man City so I suppose that means something to Southgate.

Everton don't need him when we have Tom Davies.

Seb Niemand
21 Posted 09/07/2019 at 23:34:39
He's never going to be the worst choice we could make under certain circumstances but the question now is (as it should be) - is he the best choice we could make under those circumstances and the answer is, plainly, no.
James Gardner
22 Posted 10/07/2019 at 02:09:57
I would have thought that with PSG signing Ander Herrera, they would be dropping their interest in Gueye. I wouldn't see him getting regular first team football there now.

Hopefully if we can get it right in the transfer market, (Malcom, Zouma and Kean) we can persuade him to continue doing what he does best for us and help build an exciting team!

Alan J Thompson
23 Posted 10/07/2019 at 05:51:14
It does appear that we need to lose a few who play this position before signing another and apart form Gana, McCarthy, Besic and Schneiderlin do we include Joe Williams and Baningime in this number.
Michael Burke
24 Posted 10/07/2019 at 06:33:07
Why are people so age obsessed?
Players regularly play beyond 35 now. You need a good blend of experience and youth. If you watch the Amazon series on Citeh, he is actually very vocal behind the scenes, a leader. Something we sorely lack. Having said all this I don't think he is actually that good!!!!
David Ellis
25 Posted 10/07/2019 at 07:32:19
I always thought he was a decent player
Jim Bennings
26 Posted 10/07/2019 at 08:47:40
MIchael 24

People have become almost brainwashed now about resale values and every player that comes through the ranks at the age of 18 is gonna be amazing.

I remember in the summer of 2015 having a discussion with one fan who said Chris Long (he scored a goal in a preseason friendly that summer) simply had to start the 2015/-16 campaign as he was better than Lukaku and Harry Kane put together, well, the rest is history isn't it?

I think it's since we brought through Wayne Rooney, we are still pinning distant hopes that we are going to see another like him come through and be a superstar, the reality is Rooney was a freak of nature at 16 and was clear straight away that he was a Premier League player.

We've had all the false promises of Jeffers, Vaughan, Anichebe, Branch, Cadamarteri, Rodwell, Barkley (who still hasn't improved as a player since his first season at Everton).

The most reliable young lads we've brought through were probably Tony Hobert and Leon Osman.

Personally I don't care about the age of players or give a monkeys about resale values, I'm interested in their values to Everton and I look at what the likes of Sylvain Distin, Gareth Barry, Richard Gough, Alan Stubbs, Lee Carsley, Davie Weir, Kevin Campbell, Dave Watson, Neville Southall did for us and I'm quite ok with signing players at a certain age if they are good enough.

Simon Smith
27 Posted 10/07/2019 at 09:20:22
I think he'd be a good addition to the squad. If he was to come he would 100% improve the match day squad. I would rather have him than Schneirderlin on the bench any day!

29 is not old. Klaassen was young... that worked out well!

Sam Hoare
28 Posted 10/07/2019 at 09:25:45
Jim@26, people have not become brainwashed, but they have woken up to the fact that football is a business. Plus they have seen the damage that buying older, substandard players on big wages who are then hard to get off the books can do in the cases of Williams, Bolasie, Alcaraz etc

It's all very well not giving a crap about resale values but if we then need a new striker but struggle to find the funds because no-one wants to buy our ageing squad everyone is up in arms!

7 or so years ago we were in a similar spot to Spurs but they have outstripped us by picking up young talent with potential, selling a few of them off for massive profit using the money to re-invest wisely and have now built an excellent team based on those players and a good coach coach.

None of this is to say that EVERY player has to be a spring chicken. Of course there needs to be a balance. Players like Gareth Barry prove more than their worth. But considerations of wages and resale value have to be given their place for any fan able to see the bigger picture. Like it or not Everton the football club will only do well if the business runs smoothly. Money is a limited resource so we have to make the best use of it we can.

As for Delph, as with most transfers, it depends on the deal specifics. If we got him for a nominal value on reasonable wages (say £60-75k) then I could definitely see the sense in that. His injury history worries me but he is a good player when fit and by all accounts a really excellent presence and voice in the dressing room. If we are to pay them £16M and give him £100k per week then I think there are better ways to spend that money.

Jim Bennings
29 Posted 10/07/2019 at 10:04:31
Sam

We bought older players like Alcaraz and Kone that were poor, Bolasie was 27 hardly old, but yes overpriced and on too much of a high wage that’s not the players fault but the club.

We must start signing players that are the finished article otherwise every single year is going to be yet another season in that dreaded word “transition”.

We can’t keep waiting for 21 year olds to come good in four years time, with the risk that they may not in all likelihood become much better.

We need a blend of player, you can’t have a whole starting eleven with no characters and a bunch of players under 25 starting with no real winners experience.

That’s why players like Digne, Gana and Sigurdsson are absolutely crucial to this team, without those three players in there we’d struggle massively let’s be honest.

I’m all for signing top quality young players but too many “supposed to be’s“ or “potentially greats” then it’s just looking at more transition of mediocre 8th place finishes.

Drew O'Neall
30 Posted 10/07/2019 at 10:05:55
Good, competitive, versatile player.

His signing would allow us to move on several expensive fringe players, because he can cover a number if positions (Schneirderlin, Martina, McCarthy, Mirallas, Lookman, Walcott.. to name a few) and/or put the likes of Davies out on loan.

For those proposing we just get McCarthy ‘really fit’, I don’t see that being an option available to us.

Sam Hoare
31 Posted 10/07/2019 at 10:10:53
Jim, if you read my whole post you’ll see I advocate balance. But as you’ll see if you read Paul the Esks article our P&L sheet is precarious. All I’m saying is that those who dismiss the resale value arguments are not seeing the whole picture.

A lot depends on the deal in question but paying big bucks for players aged or near their 30s usually means the club taking a financial hit they can barely afford. If Delph comes for a few million and is happy to get 65k per week then that makes sense enough.

Craig Walker
32 Posted 10/07/2019 at 10:51:10
I think Delph would be a similar signing to Tom Cleverley. Played for a top club and got England caps but not all that great.
Daniel A Johnson
33 Posted 10/07/2019 at 11:03:12
Just not the type of player that will take us to the next level.

I'd keep Schneiderlin a better player all round than Delph. Plus he's already in our squad.

We need goals in the team not another journeyman utility player.

John Hammond
34 Posted 10/07/2019 at 11:10:54
On £90k/week at Man City so I can't see us paying that for a 29-year-old with a similar record to McCarthy of having 2 or 3 injuries a season.
James Marshall
35 Posted 10/07/2019 at 11:13:38
Didn't Gueye replace Delph at Villa? That alone tells you something about this deal.

Delph is experienced and well coached, knows the game, good passer of the ball and at 29, despite some peoples outdated obsession, still has plenty of football left in him.

If Gueye does got to PSG, and Delph (as reported) wants to leave City to get a game, then it makes sense in my view. Guardiola rates him very highly, and I'll take his opinion over anyone on here - including myself!

Tony Everan
36 Posted 10/07/2019 at 11:16:26
His age, injury issues, a 4-year contract, probably £100k wage demands and no resale value at all, make this bad business.

There has to be better alternatives out there. Tanguy Ndombele, who Spurs have just signed, is a good buy, he will strengthen them and make them much tougher to beat.

I hope we are in the market for a midfielder of this nature, maybe one who is on the up who Mr Brands has had scouted.

I bet Sam Hoare can name one or two interesting alternatives to Delph. How is Sangare progressing?

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Pat Kelly
37 Posted 10/07/2019 at 13:11:49
I'd sooner we got some silverware
Francis van Lierop
39 Posted 10/07/2019 at 17:48:16
The only reason this may have some legs, PSG are to offer 45m for Gana, after the AFCON.
Justin Doone
40 Posted 10/07/2019 at 21:52:01
Ha ha. Not a bad l player but not good enough for us. Our physio room is full. I'd swap him for Schnides though.
Gavin Johnson
41 Posted 11/07/2019 at 04:51:57
Schneiderlin's better than Delph. This seems like lazy journalism and complete bollocks
Liam Reilly
42 Posted 11/07/2019 at 21:00:13
I don't see Delph being in the Silva - Brands equation myself, but then I never thought Barry would work out and was happy to be proven wrong.
Andrew Keatley
43 Posted 11/07/2019 at 21:45:22
Gavin (40) - I do not think Schneiderlin is better than Delph, and I should think that 18 months of no interest from any clubs anywhere in MS probably suggests the same.
Gavin Johnson
44 Posted 12/07/2019 at 16:26:27
Andrew

In fairness, how do you know there hasn't been any interest in Schneiderlin? some clubs operate without sharing their plans with the newspapers. Weren't West Ham interested in him during Moyes tenure as their caretaker manager?! I seem to remember someone at Everton refuting the interest stating that Schneiderlin wouldn't be going anywhere.

I like Morgan attitude aside. He's a player that keeps play going and paradoxically often has a better game when he doesn't stand out. He's also a decent passer of the ball and I don't see why Delph would be a step up from him. It would be a move side ways. Delph is the wrong age and will be on big wages. I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.

Gavin Johnson
45 Posted 12/07/2019 at 16:26:27
Andrew

In fairness, how do you know there hasn't been any interest in Schneiderlin? some clubs operate without sharing their plans with the newspapers. Weren't West Ham interested in him during Moyes tenure as their caretaker manager?! I seem to remember someone at Everton refuting the interest stating that Schneiderlin wouldn't be going anywhere.

I like Morgan attitude aside. He's a player that keeps play going and paradoxically often has a better game when he doesn't stand out. He's also a decent passer of the ball and I don't see why Delph would be a step up from him. It would be a move side ways. Delph is the wrong age and will be on big wages. I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.

Gavin Johnson
46 Posted 12/07/2019 at 16:26:27
Andrew

In fairness, how do you know there hasn't been any interest in Schneiderlin? some clubs operate without sharing their plans with the newspapers. Weren't West Ham interested in him during Moyes tenure as their caretaker manager?! I seem to remember someone at Everton refuting the interest stating that Schneiderlin wouldn't be going anywhere.

I like Morgan attitude aside. He's a player that keeps play going and paradoxically often has a better game when he doesn't stand out. He's also a decent passer of the ball and I don't see why Delph would be a step up from him. It would be a move side ways. Delph is the wrong age and will be on big wages. I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.

Gavin Johnson
47 Posted 12/07/2019 at 16:26:27
Andrew

In fairness, how do you know there hasn't been any interest in Schneiderlin? some clubs operate without sharing their plans with the newspapers. Weren't West Ham interested in him during Moyes tenure as their caretaker manager?! I seem to remember someone at Everton refuting the interest stating that Schneiderlin wouldn't be going anywhere.

I like Morgan attitude aside. He's a player that keeps play going and paradoxically often has a better game when he doesn't stand out. He's also a decent passer of the ball and I don't see why Delph would be a step up from him. It would be a move side ways. Delph is the wrong age and will be on big wages. I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.

Gavin Johnson
48 Posted 12/07/2019 at 16:26:27
Andrew

In fairness, how do you know there hasn't been any interest in Schneiderlin? some clubs operate without sharing their plans with the newspapers. Weren't West Ham interested in him during Moyes tenure as their caretaker manager?! I seem to remember someone at Everton refuting the interest stating that Schneiderlin wouldn't be going anywhere.

I like Morgan attitude aside. He's a player that keeps play going and paradoxically often has a better game when he doesn't stand out. He's also a decent passer of the ball and I don't see why Delph would be a step up from him. It would be a move side ways. Delph is the wrong age and will be on big wages. I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.

Mike Oates
49 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:05:19
Can only mean Gueye out, Davies not good enough or ready yet, but remained to be convinced any of our aspiring youngsters can cut it, Kenny, Dowell, Davies, Baningime, etc.

If Gueye is going, no one we have fits the bill, Gomes, Schnederlin, Davies, don’t break up play well enough. I’m not sure Delph will but he’ll certainly get stuck in, though at times it won’t be pretty. Type of player capable of getting Goodison roaring as did Neville on Ronaldo.

Steve Hogan
50 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:13:53
Christy (7)

' A fully fit Mcarthy'...10 games in three years, think I'll take a chance on Delph.

Mike Connolly
51 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:28:16
Drew 30 had to laugh
His signing would allow us to move on several expensive fringe players, because he can cover a number if positions.

We can't move fringe players on at all. never mind us signing an overrated Delph. and someone mentioned £10 million. I know, lets get him on loan like other clubs do with our expensive fringe players

Tony Hill
52 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:29:28
Well, we have to trust our manager and DoF because he's clearly coming in. £8m is a very good price and may prove to be a massive bargain. He will have 4-5 years left if he keeps fit.

When he was at Villa, I thought he was excellent. Much less so at City but that's a false environment in some ways. As ever, it's all about the fit and what he may contribute to the whole.

I'm happy enough. Over to you, Fabian.

Pete Baker
53 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:40:13
It just feels a disappointing signing and pretty strange when you consider the problems with trying to shift so many average players out on high-value contracts with little sell-on!

I think everyone buys into the vision of buying up and coming younger players, which has been successful last year in the first window of the new era... It just feels a backward step but I hope I'm wrong!

Ian Bennett
54 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:45:05
£8m for a left footer that will bring quality to the squad looks a no-brainer to me.

I'd expect McCarthy or Besic to go for near that.

Kieran Kinsella
55 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:45:53
Mike 51

I thought the same thing regarding Drew 30. To me Delph seems like the Walcott signing. e.g. someone who is established, pretty good, available. but not someone we need. If wages were minimal (which surely they won't be) then it would be one thing. But 100k a week seems to be like minimum wage these days so I really don't see the point in this. Just to be clear, I think he is a decent player so I am not having a go at him but I just think it's not a signing we "need" at this time.

Frank Sheppard
56 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:47:44
Not an exciting prospect, but could be a good addition in the way that Gareth Barry was.
James Stewart
57 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:55:35
This is the kind of signing Moyes would make if he were still here. Surely we didn't bring Brands in to identify ageing cast-offs?!? Underwhelming and unsettling.
Brian Williams
58 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:55:46
Hmmmm. Think I'll defer my feelings 'til the window shuts and we can see who else we've got.

Could be an astute "squad" signing come the close of the window or could turn out to be a case of "ffs is that it"?

Tony Hill
59 Posted 12/07/2019 at 21:56:46
Thing is we haven't got a clue how he's going to do but I'm very hopeful. Get the blend right. Silva and Brands won't have stuck a pin in the list of players who might be available, they'll have thought long and hard.

£8m for a quality pro and we're turning up our noses? Mind you, I'm a big fan of Schneiderlin too. I think we're building a canny midfield: hard and subtle - that's a good combination and will be nourishing for the likes of Davies and Baningime to thrive.

Ian Bennett
60 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:02:21
£8m for a left footer that will bring quality to the squad looks a no-brainer to me.

I'd expect McCarthy or Besic to go for near that.

Ian Horan
61 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:03:02
Isn't Besic on the move to Fulham for £6 mill. To me, it's sensible. Good squad player, likes to put his boot in. I would play him twice a season against the RS to do a job on Mane or Salah. :-)
Mike Gaynes
62 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:17:15
I was Delphinately not thrilled by this idea... until I re-read the price.

My hunch is that this is an £8m insurance policy against Gueye leaving for Paris. Delph is not in any way a replacement for Gana -- he has played little DM at City and is not exactly known for his ballwinning -- but he's an experienced bit of depth for Silva, who may not see Davies as ready for full-time starting duty.

Funny thing is that while Gana is twice the player, he's on a lower salary -- Delph £90k/week, Gana £70k/week. Who says life is fair?

Fran Mitchell
63 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:19:15
Unexpected, tbh, but a solid signing.

Our midfield as it stands is: Gueye, Gomes, Sigurdsson, Davies and maybe Schneiderlin, but I expect him to leave, either on loan or permanently. So that leaves us with just 4. So signing an experienced and versatile player for cheap makes sense.

It is not a priority position, so best to use the bulk of our funds for that striker we so desire.

Steve Ferns
64 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:22:59
England international for less than £10m. Sounds like a bargain. He could be the new Gareth Barry? Not quite the same player, but another city fringe player dismissed as old and past it. Anyway, not a bad signing at the price. Be interesting to see if he retains his England place!
Nick Hogan
65 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:26:20
I agree with Steve @50. Much better player than people are giving credit to. If Idrissa goes, do we replace him with a central midfielder at £50M or spend the money on a decent centre-forward or two, plus Delph? Simple economics to me.
Darryl Ritchie
66 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:30:10
I'm not sure about this one. I like Delph, but Isn't he a lot like a lot of our other midfielders, that we already have under contract, who we are trying our damndest to get rid of?
Chris Leyland
67 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:37:32
I see him as the equivalent of the shite James Milner when they signed him from City aged 29. A lot of people questioned that signing at the time but he proven to be very good business for them.
Steve Ferns
68 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:40:20
Is he like everyone else we’ve got though? He’s a defensive midfielder with limited range of passing but reasonably effective at shifting it quickly over shorter distances. You can rest assured that Guardiola will have drilled him hard on this.

Whilst he played as a left back, mostly for Guardiola, it’s worth noting that he often tucked in alongside Fernandinho, so he often patrolled defensive midfielder regardless.

In a Gueye-less Everton, he would play deep with Gomes. He would be the one to break up the play and get Gomes on the ball. He gets forward as well as Gueye ever did, up until this season, and so can do a lot of what Gueye did, though not quite as well.

It seems to me that perhaps Gueye is off. The African nations is in the way of his transfer and once it’s over and money bags PSG stop being penny pinchers, the transfer will go through. I would see Delph as his replacement and then expect a marquee signing on the wing, ie Neres, Malcolm or Pepe.

No inside info, it’s just the only way this makes any sense.

John Keating
69 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:41:09
Not sure how much money we have to spend this window.
I would have thought we have a position to fill far more important than one Delph fits in to !
Andrew Keatley
70 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:41:19
£8-10 million is excellent business. I rate Delph; if he can keep his head and stay fit then he’ll offer a great deal to the squad.

Hopefully we’re keeping Gana and offloading at least two out of Besic, Schneiderlin and McCarthy - and this Delph deal might enable us to be all right about the limited fees that they are likely to attract.

Tony Abrahams
71 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:46:51
Marquee signing would have to be Ziyech, Steve!
Michael Lynch
72 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:51:58
Never mind the transfer fee, we're going to have to be paying £5m a year in wages, so that's £20m over a four year contract for someone who will surely only become more injury-prone once he gets the wrong side of 30?

As others have said, doesn't really fit the blueprint of a Brands signing, so I'm doubtful. If it is true, and he's coming in to replace Gueye, then I'm not massively impressed. Still, if Brands and Silva thinks he's worth a punt, so be it.

Chris Gould
73 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:57:32
Gueye is most definitely off. No way is Delph coming to sit on the bench, so he'll be starting alongside Gomes. There will have been many clubs interested in Delph, and he will have needed convincing that he is going to play.

I think he'll prove to be an excellent buy and will quickly become a fan favourite and captain. He is top 6 quality and is clearly coming for the right reasons. He wants a challenge and he wants to play. He's a winner and will bring that mentality.

Fran Mitchell
74 Posted 12/07/2019 at 22:59:29
Steve, interesting point.

We all know how it works, English fringe player at 'top' is a guaranteed call-up. The moment he becomes a regular at a 'non-top' team, he'll be out of the squad.

Sam Hoare
75 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:05:28
If true I expect him to have an impact to somewhere in between Phil Neville and Gareth Barry. So pretty decent. He always looks sharp and precise and by all accounts he’s an excellent presence in the dressing room.

Whether it’s a good deal ultimately will depend on what wages were paying him and if he can stay fit!

Gavin Johnson
76 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:12:51
We better hope we can offload Schneiderlin and McCarthy, not to mention Mo Besic now. I find this something of a sideways move by us. Schneiderlin for me is better than Delph, and while McCarthy is a ticking time bomb for the treatment table he has a similar skill set and ability level to Delph. Silva doesn't seem to rate him or Besic and there's no way back for them. Lets hope we can move all three of them on now.


If this is happening I suspect young Joe Williams future next season will depend on whether Morgan Schneiderlin's stays or goes. Like Jonjoe Kenny, a season in the Bundesliga would probably do Joe Williams good, although I would like to see him in the Everton squad this season. Beni Baningime definitely needs a loan move but the next one is critical because he couldn't get a game for Wigan last season. He could be another Galloway or Garbutt if the next one goes wrong.

Tony Hill
77 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:14:42
What I like about the business we seem to be doing, and are set to do, is that we're making a type of Atletico Madrid unit. Not easily to be read, we're going to be a team with a mix of flair and toughness.

The emphasis with Silva will be on flair and pace (more than Atletico), but you need your steel.

We're getting there. We're now run by two or three calm, winning characters who are not at all sentimental but who want to see us honour our tradition, I'm convinced of it.

Delph is a part, however apparently small, of that process.

Dan Nulty
78 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:19:40
100% agree with Steve Ferns. We desperately need a striker though.
Andrew Keatley
79 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:21:10
When Delph was at Bradford and Villa he was a box-to-box midfielder, a ball-carrier, energetic and athletic. I think his City years - and when he has played for England - have seen him playing as a deep-lying midfielder surrounded by talented attacking players who he was instructed to give the ball to. I’d like to see him given more responsibility and licence to carry the ball as I think it’s something he is pretty good at.
Gavin Johnson
80 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:25:50
Yeah, it could be said that Delph could be our answer to James Milner cos he can play left-back. Kinda bizarre we've just given Baines another deal then. If this deal was in the pipeline, personally I'd have had Delph or Robinson covering for Digne.
Peter Roberts
81 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:37:48
At £8-10m this is a steal. England International, Gueye's replacement for when he goes for £40m+? I was originally underwhelmed by the rumour but, the more I read of this, the more I think it's a very astute signing.
Martin Berry
82 Posted 12/07/2019 at 23:56:17
£8m quid ? I think we had better check that he has two legs for that price.
A bargain no brainer and the faithful may be surprised what a quality player he still is.
I suspect if the fee is accurate it was just too good to turn down by M & M.
Gavin Johnson
83 Posted 12/07/2019 at 00:01:01
Peter #81

I pray Brands has something up his sleeve. Delph's as a replacement for Gueye who was our best player last season is a complete downgrade. It's Astute only in a monetary sense, but in no other way. I should imagine Delph will be replacing other players and we'll be getting someone better than Delph to replace Gueye. The only way I see Delph being in the first 11, is if no one buys Schneiderlin.

Andy Crooks
84 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:10:19
If it happens it will be a brilliant signing in my view. A top player with a bit to prove after injuries. Our new Peter Reid.
Andrew Keatley
85 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:10:35
Gavin - “I think you'd agree there's not much difference between them even if you think Delph is better of the two, Andrew.” This is what I think; I’d be delighted if Morgan Schneiderlin never played for us again, and I’d be thrilled if we got £8 million for him. Fabian Delph is a better athlete, a better footballer, a better squad member, and - very importantly - someone who never goes missing when the chips are down.

“The only way I see Delph being in the first 11, is if no one buys Schneiderlin.” What does that mean? Genuine question.

Shaun McGough
86 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:12:57
8 or 9 mill is good value. morgan to psg or west ham (if they still want him) for 20 mill and happy days.
Chris Oldfield
87 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:24:32
Just why?
Don Alexander
88 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:25:12
Haven't read all the above posts but might this guy just be the current version of GazBaz, a CL cast-off signing that occasionally coincided with Europa League qualification for us? Is that still our level and if so, what's the current "project" Farhad?

Sorry if the question embarrasses you, but what do you want fans to expect in the season to come?

Mike Doyle
89 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:28:53
As 2 serious journalistic blues - Alan Myers & My old DeLa Salle pal Phil McNulty - seem to be suggesting this is genuine, I suspect it has legs.
While my initial reaction is underwhelmed... then again I recall being similarly unimpressed by the arrivals of Reid, Gray & Barry so what do I know?

and agree with others who suggest that this probably means Gana is on his way to PSG ... and if he is then good luck to him - a 100% giver who deserves the opportunity for a few trophies and a last big contract.

Gavin Johnson
90 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:31:49
Andrew - "A better athlete" he's been injured half the time he's been at City though, but I will agree with you about squad member, by presuming you're meaning Delph's work and team ethic
Mike Gaynes
91 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:32:46
Gavin #41 and multiple succeeding posts, OK, we get it already, you see Schneiderlin as better than Delph.

And all I can say is: Wow.

Sorry, but no matter how many times you post that, I doubt you're going to find anyone agreeing with you.

Delph may not be a patch on Gana, but he's way, way better than Schneids.

Kieran Kinsella
92 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:33:12
Gavin 80

I agree on Delph with regards to Baines but that said maybe they’ve bought him as a midfielder and not s utility man

Mike Doyle
93 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:34:30
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Paul Birmingham
94 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:43:53
Why take a Stoned Rosed, second best? Long time ago. And that’s it.

We need better, the sooner, too.

Andrew Keatley
95 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:48:10
Kieran (92) and Gavin - I don't think Delph sees himself as left-back cover, and I'd be surprised if Silva does either. Might be one of the reasons he wanted the move. He filled in there for Man City out of necessity (injuries to Mendy/Zinchenko/Danilo) and I doubt he's looking to do more of it.

Gavin - Athleticism if very different from fitness; I meant that Delph is quicker, stronger, more durable and more dynamic than MS - although I concede that Delph remains a fitness concern. I think we're just on opposite sides of the coin about Delph and Schneiderlin; I look forward to seeing how the season fares for both of them.

Jason Broome
96 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:52:07
Excellent piece of astute business if true.

8 Million for an England International who can play in 3 positions.

A utility player with a great engine, speed and skill. What's not to like?

Brands wants to make the squad smaller whilst saving on wages and provides us with more in-game tactical options... No brainer!

A year ago the left-back position was a major problem. Problem solved... for years!

It's not always about signing the big risky names. Sometimes you have to buy the right player for the right reasons and give the manager what he doesn't even know he needs.

Could be one of the cleverest signings of the season. Brands The Man!

Chris Oldfield
97 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:57:45
https://www.premierleague.com/players/3799/Fabian-Delph/overview
Gavin Johnson
98 Posted 13/07/2019 at 00:58:54
God Mike, I said that twice. Sorry if I've gone over my allotted times I can say something. Was it mentioning Baines that irked you?! And on the subject of Baines there's been a few threads where you've made the same point about him on more than one occasion.


Kieran - I was just saying cos Steve made the point he could be our James Milner, who's hardly ever played for the Shite in his primary position and played in another position. I certainly would have been more welcoming to this signing knowing Delph, who can play LB was if Baines had exited this summer. We need to trim the squad and it would have also been a clever way to integrate a rookie in Robinson. Yeah, Delph's a snip and could prove to be a very astute signing, but I think that's on the proviso he stays fit and we lose a few senior midfield squad men

Bobby Thomas
99 Posted 13/07/2019 at 01:09:53
As is usually the case when there's this type of reaction, he's nailed on to be much better than numerous reactionaries already writing him off say he is.
Brian Wilkinson
100 Posted 13/07/2019 at 01:27:24
If we sign Delph it will be one of our best astute signings for a while.

This guy will make a few posters eat their words, you can quote me on that next season.

Give the guy a chance and be prepared to be pleasantly suprised.

Derek Thomas
101 Posted 13/07/2019 at 01:55:16
If he's as good as everybody is saying, then Pep could and probably would, ask for more than £8M. If he is as poor as the other 'everybody' is saying, then as Daniel @ 33; states...'why do we want, or need, another journeyman utility player.'

If the answer lies somewhere in the middle then he's still bang average.

If we suddenly shifted Schneidelin, McCarthy, Besic, then maybe.

John Pierce
102 Posted 13/07/2019 at 02:09:24
Injury prone and a bit part player at the champions of England.
Can he play 30+ games? Unlikely.
Pass.
Andy Kay
103 Posted 13/07/2019 at 03:32:11
Good player, trophy winner, England international. What's not to like. Maybe Gomes, Siggy and Gana should just get an easy ride until their contracts run out? About time we had some proper competition for places in this team. I don't care who plays in a blue shirt, there should be someone battling to take it off them. We always need to be looking to improve and in my opinion Delphi is currently better option than a Mccarthy, Besic or a Bolasie. We might even get Sniederlin to keep his end of season form if he's under pressure from Delph. No one should be guaranteed a shirt just because they're a fans favourite.
Jay Harris
104 Posted 13/07/2019 at 05:03:36
Underwhelmed.

Have we really gone from Lo Celso to Fabian Delph.

Mark Tanton
105 Posted 13/07/2019 at 05:47:15
I would love to see Delph. He is massively experienced and an improvement, by some stretch, on our other options in midfield (Gomez aside).
Gareth Ashman
106 Posted 13/07/2019 at 07:00:24
Having watched the City documentary on Amazon I was very surprised at how much of a leader Delph was at City. Despite being on the periphery of their strongest side, he offered a lot both on and off the pitch. A top professional, who gave 100% in all he did at the club. He’d help others around him become better at what they do. I’ve always seen him a defensive midfielder, which is where I think he’ll start for us in Gana moves on.
Ajay Gopal
108 Posted 13/07/2019 at 07:09:40
I hope this doesn’t mean that the path of Tom Davies, Baningimine, Joe Williams, etc are blocked. It would make sense to get Delph in only if we sell at least 2 out of Besic, Schneiderlin and McCarthy. I include McCarthy with a heavy heart - he was my favourite player a few seasons ago. He was an absolute nightmare to play against in that 1st Martinez season, but sadly injuries took their toll, especially his horrific double leg break. He will never be the player he could have become for us; hopefully a different team, a different setup will help him end his career on a high note.
Ajay Gopal
109 Posted 13/07/2019 at 07:09:41
I hope this doesn’t mean that the path of Tom Davies, Baningimine, Joe Williams, etc are blocked. It would make sense to get Delph in only if we sell at least 2 out of Besic, Schneiderlin and McCarthy. I include McCarthy with a heavy heart - he was my favourite player a few seasons ago. He was an absolute nightmare to play against in that 1st Martinez season, but sadly injuries took their toll, especially his horrific double leg break. He will never be the player he could have become for us; hopefully a different team, a different setup will help him end his career on a high note.
Paul Kelly
110 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:09:05
Who?
Sam Hoare
111 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:09:20
I think if fully fit Delph immediately becomes our third best central midfielder after Gana and Gomes. He is a total professional and as such I think he does have the ability to do a Milner job and play anywhere. Perhaps if Coleman is struggling and Holgate not rising to the task then he could even fill in at RB as I think he’s pretty two footed.

Like others I always want younger players with potential but we do need balance and I have warmed to this transfer. If we were able to sell Besic and McCarthy for £10m or so then I think this looks like good business, so long as his wages are not too high.

Look forward to seeing what he brings if true.

Tony Abrahams
112 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:13:59
The more I think about it the more I think it’s a very sensible signing, especially if he’s got a bit of leadership about him, which has got to be very important when trying to build a team to compete.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, but if JP says pass, I’d say that’s one area in which he has the edge over little Gueye!

Hope Gueye stays because modern football is all about having a strong squad, and that’s why I await our next couple of signings, because if we can sign the right players, then I don’t see why we can’t get into the top 4 next season, when “the Phoenix begins to rise through the flames!”

Eddie Dunn
113 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:22:12
He is versatile and experienced and an above average PL player. A good signing.
Darren Hind
114 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:45:05
I've seen this guy playing some very, very good games.
Works too hard to have many poor ones

If he can stay healthy. this is a steal.

Tony Everan
115 Posted 13/07/2019 at 08:52:11
8m is no money these days, a good deal as long as his wage demands are realistic. Will give decent quality cover to our midfield, and will push to be a starter.

He is a versatile player who will strengthen our squad without busting the bank, if Besic goes for 5m to Fulham, that will almost cover it.

Steavey Buckley
116 Posted 13/07/2019 at 09:19:57
Is the signing of Delph a replacement for Gueye? I hope not because Delph is not a substitute for Gueye, and the amount of running and tackling he does all match and remains mainly injury free all season unlike Delph.
Steavey Buckley
117 Posted 13/07/2019 at 09:19:57
Is the signing of Delph a replacement for Gueye? I hope not because Delph is not a substitute for Gueye, and the amount of running and tackling he does all match and remains mainly injury free all season unlike Delph.
Dave Abrahams
118 Posted 13/07/2019 at 09:24:54
I think Everton were in the running to sign him when he was at Leeds, the club he started his football career with but he chose Aston Villa from about three or four clubs.

Man. City are classed as a club who splash the cash around but they have done well with Delph, signed him for £8M and after three years good service they are making a small profit on him.

I think he can be a very good player for The Blues, he’s got plenty of ability, been around and knows the game, I’m sure he will be more professional and add to the team than some of the players we have signed in the last few years and are still here draining the clubs finances.

Sandra Bowen
119 Posted 13/07/2019 at 09:39:35
I think he's one of these players that's not fully appreciated until he plays for your team, much like Barry, Henderson, Milner etc.
I can understand people being uninspired by the signing but I've got a good feeling that he could prove to be a very good bit of business. We've been crying out for leaders, workers, characters and by all accounts, Delph possesses all of these qualities. If he's here to replace Besic, McCarthy and we receive a good offer for MS then it's a no brainer. I'd hate to see Gueye leave so hopefully Delph is here to bolster options rather than as a direct replacement. In certain games or in certain situations during games then having a midfield duo of both Delph and Gueye would be a huge obstacle for opposing teams to get through.

Thumbs up from me. Get this one done and move onto the more important positions. Striker, centre back and this left footed right winger that he seems to want.


David Pearl
120 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:03:23
Let's face it, take a look at all of our squad midfielders. Are any of them capable of passing like Delph does? No. He offers something different. He gets about, can chip in with a goal and assist or two, not afraid to tackle. If he stays fit he's a really good signing, especial for the money. Of course we are still lacking a goalscorer... and they come in handy.
Mark Dunford
121 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:09:02
I’m sceptical about these reports as the profile is so far from that which is the declared favourite and the player doesn’t appear to add too much to the squad. Having said that, I probably thought the same about Gareth Barry or Phil Neville who we’re both comparable signings that exceeded any expectation. A squad is all about balance and blend.

Still, I’d also like to think some of the promising young players could progress through to first team.

Oh, and a forward, and Zouma

Kenn Crawford
122 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:20:20
Please no overrated over priced over the hill not for us thanks
Anthony A Hughes
123 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:26:11
One of the better modern day utility men and will be a good squad player. A good price as well but does he improve our first team to bring us closer to the top 4?
Liam Reilly
124 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:28:10
Why move from the PL Champions to become a squad player at Everton?

...Unless hes been given some assurances of playing time but I can't see where he'll fit in unless he's a replacement for Gueye.

Andrew Keatley
125 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:32:52
Am surprised by the amount of sceptics on here. £8 million for a current England international midfielder who is still under 30. Gareth Barry was 33 when he signed for us.

I'm onside with the fact that our recruitment initiative seems to have a preference for talented young players but the last two seasons have often shown us to be lacking leaders, and the opportunity to bring in someone like Delph for only £8 million is a rare one. It might not be the template signing that we have been led to believe that Brands and Silva are after, but occasionally you have to supplement your chosen diet with a side order of something else.

Derek Wadeson
126 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:39:13
I remember Paul Power being regarded as a negative signing from Manchester City.
Brendan Curtin
127 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:46:33
We need experience in the dressing room. He provides that and grit and determination. Similar to Gareth Barry but a bit more mobile. We also have a lot of foreign players and his experience of the premier league is important. I see him as direct replacement for McCarthy and indirectly if Gana if he goes but not long term.
Mike Kehoe
128 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:50:11
If Gaye goes to PSG we should be looking at Doucoure from Watford. Delph is decent and much better than Schniederline, who seems to have won some over by improving on the shocking low standards and treacherous apathy he produced not so long ago. We are stuck with this extravagantly paid journeyman mum u reject until his contract expires and I expect the best we can hope for is that his future contributions can be classed as less shite than previous. Delph can be a small piece of the progress but a striker remains the urgent need.
Paul Smith
129 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:52:13
Good enough for City for 3 years, he's under 30, £8 million quid and according the ESK article finances are tight, we've won sod all in 30 years and he wants to come ? Sign him up, he's a bargain.
David Thomas
130 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:54:25
If he comes in as a squad filler to cover a few positions due to suspensions and injuries then fine.

If he is a replacement for Gueye and one of our main signings this summer then I think we need to accept we are competing for the best of the rest position again next season and nothing better.

I think we will have a clearer idea of the future aspirations of the club by the 8th August.

Mal van Schaick
131 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:56:14
Not for me. A backward step with an ageing mediocre squad player.
Dale Rose
132 Posted 13/07/2019 at 10:59:49
Very tenacious and committed player. Can bring a lot of experience to the team. At the end of the day he will get games with us. That's what he wants.
Alan J Thompson
133 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:02:13
I just don't see him as a long term, top class player and I'm again wondering if we are having trouble coaching some of our own players, of all age levels, or just getting them to adapt to a system, and how we will reduce the numbers we have for this position, all of which asks questions of both Brands and Silva. But then it seems to me that younger players are sent out on loan to see if they improve while more "established" players seem to be conveniently overlooked.

I've nothing against buying a better team but it has already been pointed out that the ledger needs to be balanced.

Andrew Ellams
134 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:05:36
I'm not sure on this one. If we get him for something similar to what we are reported to be selling Mirallas for then that's good business but where and when will he play? Are we now selling Schneiderlin?
Paul Burns
135 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:06:01
I think it's worth a punt for £8 million, we've wasted 3 and 4 times that on utter useless garbage.

Football is all about getting shape in your team and we've been all over the place for a few years with square pegs in round holes.

Also, we're soft as fuck, in the middle especially, and it's harder than ever to find a solid arl-arse in the centre who can also pass the ball well and shout the odds as well.

Frank Crewe
136 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:07:18
If we kept to this alleged Brands profile for buying players we would never have bought Peter Reid, Andy Gray, Nigel Martyn, Richard Gough, Gareth Barry, and most important of all Kevin Campbell. All these players had a massive impact on the club from winning the league to saving us from the drop even though they were a lot nearer to the end of their careers than the beginning of them.

We cannot tie the club to some rigid transfer policy regarding the age range of players. If a decent player at a decent price becomes available that can improve the squad then it makes sense to bid for him. Not every player can be sold on.

Personally I think he will be a replacement for Gueye (who is two months older than Delph BTW) who I think will go to PSG. This is the point of Brands profile. We bough Gueye when he was younger and cheaper and now we are selling him on at a considerable profit. If the clubs intent is to buy young and sell on then we can't complain when they do regardless of who the player is.

Chris Gould
137 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:11:40
I think we need to accept that Gueye is leaving but should not panic about it. Brands and Silva will have known that he's off and prepared for it.

I am a big fan of Gueye but he may not be as big a miss as some fear. His ball-winning ability is world class, but what he does with it once he's won it is pretty average. You don't need an out and out ball winner if you have a strong defensive unit that transitions into attack quickly. City, RS, Spurs all do fine without a tackling machine.

I would still rather we keep him as I think he's fantastic. I just don't think we should panic if he goes.

For those holding out hope that we'll keep Gueye and sell Schneiderlin, I think you're going to be disappointed.

Charlie Dixon
138 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:14:07
Can't believe people are questioning this signing. Far better than Besic, McCarthy and Schneiderlin. He's 29 not 39, plays a number of positions, current England International and a very decent pro by all accounts.
Very smart from Brands and completely out of the blue which is also a refreshing change!

Now Zouma, Kean and Malcom please!

Joe McMahon
139 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:14:15
Frank, the game is faster now. You also don't mention the many disasters such as Darren Gibson, Ginola and many Moyes signings.
Annika Herbert
140 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:27:41
Sorry but Delph isn't a signing I want to see. Too injury prone and soon to be the wrong side of 30. I keep reading it's an excellent price for an England international. But that just makes me think how poor the England squad must be if Delph is in it!

Obviously I would hope for us to keep Gueye, but Delph is not a good replacement if he does go. Disappointed with our lack of transfer activity so far and this type of signing, should it happen, I find pretty depressing.

Raymond Fox
141 Posted 13/07/2019 at 11:53:43
We need to sign top 6 quality players, Delph is perhaps a shade under that but at £8m he is a bargain, he's not in the City squad because he's a mug.

The reality is we can only sign players that want to come to Goodison and up to now the stars of top 6 clubs or players who are wanted by them don't seem to want to.

His injury record is a worry though.

Bill Griffiths
142 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:02:06
Personally I see him as a average Premier League player. Guess I'll just have to trust in M and M's judgement.
Steve Brown
143 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:07:45
Versatile squad player who can cover multiple positions, worked under the best coach in the work and won trophies. He is a good signing at that price.
Steven Jones
144 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:08:52
This is an excellent signing. He is very competitive, plays at speed and instinct and fits the press and transition that Silva is building into the side.

He has a bit of snide and aggression and will bring more professionalism and consistency than Schneiderlin, McCarthy, Besic etc.

He is a winner and has six trophies during his time at City and he is younger than Gana.

All the City fans are wishing him well and very appreciative of what he has done at their club. A very consistent performer for them.

He will fit in nicely knowing through his England journey Pickford, Keane, Baines et al.

I wish him good luck at his new Blue home!

Frank Crewe
145 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:09:18
Joe 139. Buying any player is a risk. We've bought plenty of young players who turned out to be useless as well. We're trying to get rid of a few of them right now.

As for the game being faster? I don't think Gomes, Gueye, Davies, Schneiderlin, etc are particularly fast. Pace tends to be up front and out wide not in the middle and it's the job of the midfield players to make the most of it. As for the cost. The money is relatively low because he's not a regular in Man City's side and he's only got one year left on his contract. If we are going to spend our time looking for reasons why we shouldn't buy this or that player we'll never buy anyone because every player has cons as well as pros.

It's a small fee for a decent player who made the mistake of signing for a club who bought him to bolster their English contingent of the squad to meet the rules regarding home grown players quota.

Hopefully with us he'll get games and be the player he could have been if he hadn't took City's gold. He's left it late but he still has two or three seasons in him.

Kevin Dyer
146 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:27:46
I'd be happy with the Villa Delph but is he the same guy? He's had years warming the bench at City, barely played CM. We'll be at least matching his reputed £90k pw salary I'd imagine. Granted he's still in the England setup so should be eager to impress, so there's that.

Doesn't fit the profile for the new era, it'd seem. I'm assuming Gana is going then?

Geoff Lambert
147 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:36:24
Stop dreaming of all the world class midfielders we could sign, Why would they want to come to a mid table team that is not in Europe and no trophies in 25 years?

Get real we are climbing the ladder slowly this is just the type of player that we need. He is a winner a 100 per cent every game type of player and wants to play for us. Give the lad a chance if he does sign for us.

Tom Bowers
148 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:47:48
Well, if he comes he comes but as I had mentioned earlier in the week I don't think he will improve the squad just add to the numbers.

I suppose it may mean Gana is really moving on to PSG in which case he will help in that regard.

John Pierce
149 Posted 13/07/2019 at 12:52:13
Several posts citing Milner & Barry as similar type signings. He's not in the same bracket. Those two are 7/10 each week and more importantly hardly ever got injured. Delph has something like 50-odd starts in 4 years? His injury record is not pretty poor.

Again, for those thinking he's versatile, covering at left-back for Man City is not covering for anyone else in the league. He barely had any defending to do and had a plethora of options to pass to. It's an illusion since he spent most of that time tucked infield for City.

Remember the tackle on Calvert-Lewin last season too?!

Jack Convery
150 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:06:52
Left footers signed from city usually do well for us. Lets hope Delph is another.
Kieran Kinsella
151 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:08:21
Derek 126

Good call. Paul Power #Legend

Mike Connolly
152 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:18:59
Don't sign Delph use the money to give a big pay rise to Gana and then we'd all be happy
James Newcombe
153 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:28:10
He won't be an England International after the move, Id imagine! Not sure what this means for Tom Davies, he found it hard enough to get minutes last season, and he needs to be playing.
Pat Kelly
154 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:38:25
First Lössl, then Delph. Heady stuff.
Fran Mitchell
155 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:43:54
He won't be a guaranteed starter. He won't be a 'Gana replacement'.

He is a top quality player – he was excellent at Villa and not getting games above Silva, Fernandinho and Co says nothing. But Man City did keep him in and around their first team when needed, and this is in a season when one dropped point could have led to losing the title. Guardiola still trusted him.

Our midfield options are poor, Gana will start the season late as his 2018-19 season only ends next weekend.

An injury to Gomes would mean we have no experienced players to come in.

If we are in a battle for top 6, then we need options.

But we don't have £50 million to spend on Ndombele or such.

For £30 million, Brands has got Gomes and it looks like Delph: 2 international midfielders, with Champions League experience, and also with a point to prove. That is excellent value in this market.

Delph will want to be at Euro 2020, he'll be a great mentor for Davies (Delph himself was a teenage 'wunderkid' so will know the pressures).

We now have 4 central midfielders - Gueye, Gomes, Davies, Delph that offer something different, and will challenge each other.

And we didn't break the bank, meaning we can invest in that Forward we so desire.

The deal makes perfect sense.

Colette Black
156 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:46:59
Man City only bought Delph to boost their quota of British players. If Gueye goes, he is no replacement. Just an overhyped overrated journeyman. Extremely disappointing if this goes through.
Pat Kelly
157 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:52:09
Fran #156, how long will Gueye be there to challenge anyone?
Fran Mitchell
158 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:52:42
Where is the suggestion that he is a Gueye replacement? That is just idle speculation.

As it stands, Gueye is still on international duty, and apart from one news report of a supposed derisory bid, there is little to suggest he"ll be sold.

But Besic, McCarthy and I suspect Schneiderlin are not part of Silva's plans. So we need another midfielder.

Fran Mitchell
159 Posted 13/07/2019 at 13:57:18
I don't know, Pat. Gueye is still a player for Everton Football Club and I haven't seen anything concrete to suggest that will any different on 1/08.

Now if Gueye does go for £45-50 million, I expect Brands will identify a top quality replacement.

As it stands, I will take the Delph transfer in isolation, and in this respect it makes sense.

We need 2 players for every position: we have Gana, Gomes, and Davies. We need one more, and an experienced international, without denting our funds to buy a forward, makes sense.

Andrew Ellams
160 Posted 13/07/2019 at 14:03:57
He brings a trophy-winning mentality and £8million is good business but he cannot be Gana's replacement.
Frank Crewe
161 Posted 13/07/2019 at 14:20:29
It's amazing how some fans have become so snooty about the players we buy. Even the small outlay guys like this one. Not good enough for all sorts of reasons, they cry. We want young superstars the club can sell on. Although we'll complain about it when they do, eg Lookman.

I do wonder though if this apparent upset isn't more about over high expectations and hurt pride than whether the player can do a job for the club.

We really need to stop reading the rumour nonsense on NewsNow about those exotic European players we are being linked with and stick to bread and butter reality. We aren't Barca. We didn't win the Premier League or Champions League last season. If we can get just one of the players we are linked with signed I'll be made up but I doubt it will happen. Our expectations have to be realistic.

Besides, just because a player is young and costs a fortune it doesn't mean they will improve our squad. Did Pogba and Lukaku improve Manu's? Did Neymar improve PSG? Did Coutinho improve Barca? Not at all. Yet the 32-year-old Moutinho, who Wolves got for a knockdown £5 million and would have gone down like a lead balloon with some fans had we bought him certainly improved their side. And who wouldn't like to see Patricio in goal instead of Pickford?

Stop looking at ages and prices and sell-on value. Can the player do a job for us? That is all that matters.

Kieran Kinsella
162 Posted 13/07/2019 at 14:24:23
Colette,

Hardly a "journeyman." He left Leeds as a kid because they needed to balance the books. He was the captain at Villa and left to join the best club in England in part because Villa also needed to balance the books. That is the extent of his journeying in the last 13 years.

As far as the English quota goes, Scott Sinclair was the man to fill that box. City signed him, never played him but he was something for Patrick Roberts to chat to in the stands. Delph started 33 league games for City over the last two championship winning seasons despite cumulatively missing 6 months due to various injuries. So if as many have, you want to call him injury prone then I would agree. But the rest of your remarks aren't backed up by the facts.

Christy Ring
163 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:01:29
Delph for £8m sounds okay, but if he's been brought in as a replacement for Gueye, it's a total disaster, and we're going backwards.
Paul Tran
164 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:06:00
Silva's Paul Power?
Derek Knox
165 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:19:36
Well it's certainly looking more of a probability than a possibility now, so it's more of a matter of when will it be completed?

I can't say I am against this move as I do believe he is a decent player, as I mentioned at the start of the post; I am more surprised from the age point of view than anything else.

Having said that, the last midfielder we got from Man City, turned out to be an excellent acquisition, and I still believe we let him go too early (to West Brom) and going back even further, as someone already mentioned Paul Power, what a bargain he proved to be for us.

We are never privy to what happens 'behind the scenes' obviously M&M know what is happening, so I trust as Marcel Brands has not let us down thus far, that he won't be starting here.

Before the André Gomes situation was eventually resolved, many were saying pay £30-35M, to conclude the deal, due to the astute dealing of M Brands we landed him for £22m, so the 'extra' some would have gladly sanctioned has landed an experienced England International for 'free' apart from wages.

I expect there to be a few more dealings in the next few days, and hopefully some of the ones we all want shipping out, but I am also saddened to a degree that we are letting quite a few decent youngsters go for a lot less than we should have. Antonee Robinson, a US International to Wigan for £2m, surely a deal that favours Wigan way more than us, and he wasn't a high earner on the wages bill.

Colette Black
166 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:19:39
Fair enough, Kieran - journeyman was a stretch too far. But I've never been overly impressed by him, even at Villa. He is injury-prone but, more importantly, he doesn't add much other than replacing some (hopeful) outgoings, and I don't buy into the winning mentality and experience stance that others want to latch onto... it's nonsense.
John McFarlane Snr
167 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:23:02
Hi Dave [118],

If Fabian Delph joins Everton and does as well as Paul Power, another 'old man' from Manchester City, he'll do for me.

Kevin Dyer
168 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:23:46
Steve #64, how was Barry a fringe player at Man City? In his 4 years there, just going off memory, each season he started at least 30 league games. Granted he was 32 and surplus to requirements when they offloaded him but he was an important member of the team up to that point.

Delph has only even been a backup there, mostly a plug-in at left-back. Even Milner was a more integrated member of the squad.

Kieran Kinsella
169 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:24:54
Mark Ward came from Man City too though he was originally an Evertonian. He was good. His best moment being off the field when he parked in Mike Walker's "MW" marked parking spot. For that alone, he is a legend.
Kevin Dyer
170 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:27:50
Chris #67 Nope, Milner typically impressed when given a chance at Man City but was always dropped. Delph has rarely impressed when he's played, albeit out of position mostly. I've always admired Milner and thought that Liverpool were getting a great signing.
Kevin Dyer
171 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:42:38
Gavin #76 and #80,

Not sure Silva will even realize McCarthy is on the playing staff unless it's been pointed out to him!

No way Williams would get a loan to a Bundesliga team, he's a youth player. Kenny has played quite a few games in the top flight and to some extent is a known commodity at 22. Totally different situation. We should look to get him a loan to a League 1 outfit, unless a Championship team is willing to give him serious game time.

No way Delph is being brought in as a backup to Digne. Guardiola has a thing for playing midfielders at full-back and vice versa (Lahm). He'll play central midfield for us.

Bill Griffiths
172 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:44:40
As I posted earlier, he's not my cup of tea but guess we have to trust M&M's judgement. Also while it seems good value my other concern is that it puts another obstacle in Tom Davies's path and I'd rather put my trust in Tom.
Paul Birmingham
173 Posted 13/07/2019 at 15:45:49
Is this a squad bolster buy or to be a midfield engine?

If he's as good as Paul Power was, then great... but, for me, we have Davies and McCarthy. What does this mean if this transfer happens? As surely he's not anywhere close to a Gana replacement if the worst happens and Gana goes to Paris.

Let's hope Marcel Brands plays his transfer aces soon.

Kieran Kinsella
174 Posted 13/07/2019 at 16:14:20
Kevin Dyer 172

I think you're confusing Williams with someone else.

"No way Williams would get a loan to a Bundesliga team, he's a youth player. Kenny has played quite a few games in the top flight and to some extent is a known commodity at 22. Totally different situation. We should look to get him a loan to a League 1 outfit, unless a Championship team is willing to give him serious game time."

He is 22 years old, not a youth player, soon to be 23. He has already played 63 games at Championship level over the past two seasons for Barnsley and Bolton where aside from playing regularly, he played very well. So we wouldn't loan him to a third tier team. Yes, he isn't as high profile as Kenny but that is the only part of your post that is correct.

Frank Crewe
175 Posted 13/07/2019 at 16:42:21
Amazing. People moaning about the injury record of Delph while touting the lesser spotted McCarthy who has barely played a game in two years.
Martin Mason
176 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:07:58
This will be great buy possibly as influential as the time we bought Peter Reid. Delph is a current English International and a good player. His wages will be high but the price is nothing and the contract won't be long term.
David Pearl
177 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:08:15
Not a chance Delph will play left back for us. Finally we have another midfield player that can pass a ball forwards. Tom Davies might get a chance to fill Ganas boots or we may go to a midfield 3. On top of this I notice a recurring theme... we all seem to think that Schneiderlin is up for sale. Have we forgotten the other 10 players ahead of him? I'm actually in favour of clearing out some of the kids. We all hoped they'd come through but now we have a DoF willing to do his job and make a decision. Also, thankfully the kids with a possible future are actually being loaned out early so they can fully benefit from a whole season at a club. Further evidence to me that things are looking up. Oh... hang on, we've still only got Niasse and Tosun up front. Maybe a breakout season for Tosun. Ahem.
Charlie Dixon
178 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:11:35
Spot on Frank (175). It's madness that he is even being considered as a central midfield option given his woeful appearance record over the past 3 years.

I think we all want Tom Davies to succeed; however, you'd have to have not watched any football over the past 3 years to not see how far superior a player Delph is in comparison.

I'd keep Schneiderlin despite having had many reservations over the years. As for our other option, Besic, he's hardly set the Championship alight...

It's a smart signing at the numbers quoted.

Frank Crewe
179 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:19:20
Charlie I'd keep Shneiderlin myself. He played pretty well towards the end of last season. Again another international player still in his late 20's with a lot of experience. I don't see any reason to part with him unless a really good bid came in. Too many axe grinders and obsessing over Tom Davies who apparently scored a goal a few seasons back.
John McFarlane Snr
180 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:22:47
Hi Derek [181] you are absolutely correct in stating that we don't know for sure, what happens 'behind closed doors at Finch Farm'. The same applies to what happens in the 'corridors of power'.

I know that some will consider my philosophy of avoiding issues that I have no control over as a meek acceptance of mediocrity; that is far from the truth. In my book, philosophy and tolerance are completely different things. Hoping to see you at the Excelsior.

John McFarlane Snr
181 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:35:10
Hi again Derek, your post appears to have been lost in the 'Corridors of power'.
Darren Murphy
182 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:55:35
Great signing, hope we triple his wages and don't buy a striker either.

Most inept recruitment team ever, in M and M we trust? Yeah Stevie Wonder too. Some people are so deluded they'd have DCL up top and sell Gana etc, we've got Gomes so we'll hit top 6 with over the hill,over priced costa if we were that mental to even think about signing that joke. It's all banter...no it's not, we've signed nobody as per and commen sense we won't till deadline day when even Crouchy turns us down. Malcom, Neres, Zouma, Incardi, anyone worth a shouta.

Derek Knox
183 Posted 13/07/2019 at 17:58:01
Hello John, hope you are well and in fine fettle, my post, because it was mainly about Antonee Robinson, was transferred to that article. You will most definitely see me at the Excelsior after the Watford game, looking forward to meeting up again, and take care in the meantime.
Kevin Prytherch
184 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:08:11
Martin - his wages will be high but his price will be nothing

Strange how we slate people for signing Sandro with a similar philosophy.

I personally don’t think we will ever see Gueye and Delph in the same team.

I don’t see the point of Delph if we keep Gueye, I reckon it’s a decent replacement if we sell him. Different type of player, but still can cover a lot of ground, remain disciplined, put a tackle in when required and lead the team.

Annika Herbert
185 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:12:46
Frank @161, that is exactly my point. I don't think he will do a good job for us and I don't particularly rate him at all. How many of the sides looking to push up the table are in for Delph?

As for your comments regarding what type of players Everton hope to sign and what news the fans read, I will treat that with the disdain it deserves.

Mike Connolly
187 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:45:16
I can see Darren's frustration. Linked with over-the-hill has-beens; we've got enough on our books as it is.
Charlie Dixon
188 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:52:02
29 is over the hill!!! We’re all doomed
Brian Williams
189 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:54:42
Mike, and others. The club doesn't control who we're linked with. Frustration borne of believing utter shite written by lazy journo's practising click-bait is frustration of a child that can't get their own way.

It's already been reliably reported (for once) that Everton are in no way interested in signing Costa, so there's one gone for starters.

There's just under a month left of the transfer window. Some of you should save your petulance and childishness (in some cases) for when the window's closed and if we've done no decent business.
This really is the age of "I want what I want and I want it now!"

Charlie Dixon
190 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:55:20
Sorry, posted too quickly. He's two months younger than Gueye for starters.
Mike Connolly
191 Posted 13/07/2019 at 18:58:21
Haha. Point taken, Charlie!
John McFarlane Snr
192 Posted 13/07/2019 at 19:14:40
Hi Derek [once more], in my previous post [180], I intended to write, "In my book, 'acceptance and tolerance' are completely different things." Now that's cleared that up.

In answer to my wellbeing, I'm going through a sticky patch at the moment but, considering the events of the past 12 months, and the fact that I'm two days away from my 81st birthday, I suppose I should be grateful.

Last time we met, you may recall that I remained on orange juice the entire evening. I'm afraid that I won't be allowed that luxury this time, but that won't result in me giving the get-together a miss.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to read the posts advocating which of the multitude of players we have been linked with actually meet the standard that the 'powers that be' require. Because I have no control over such matters, I steer clear of Everton's transfer policy, and many other subjects.

Peter Mills
193 Posted 13/07/2019 at 21:02:18
I’ve recently read an interview with Raheem Sterling, who says “They (Kompany and Delph) are the two people I love and respect who tell me exactly how it is and they’re honest with me”.

Sounds like the type of character we need.

Steve Ferns
194 Posted 13/07/2019 at 21:08:05
Our team at the end of the season was usually:

Calvert-Lewis
Bernard Sigurdsson Richarlison
Gomes Gueye
Digne Zouma Keane Coleman
Pickford

Substitute ages for names:

22
26 29 22
25 29
25 24 26 30
25

When you consider that Gueye is being chased by one of the richest clubs in the world, and that his back up is 20, is the age of Delph really an issue. Consider that we might replace Coleman in the next year or so and suddenly only Gylfi is over 26. I love younger players and love the way we’re going about building a younger, hungry side, but even I can see that Delph’s age can be a real positive as it means experience. Gone are the days of spending big on Williams and Walcott. So a bargain priced Delph would be a welcome addition. Better not be a 5 year deal though.

Michael Burke
195 Posted 13/07/2019 at 21:15:50
Peter #193, watch the Man City documentary on Amazon if you can. Delph is leader behind the scenes. We sorely lack strong leaders in our current team.
Conor McCourt
196 Posted 13/07/2019 at 21:30:50
Kevin 184- I disagree that he is a direct replacement for Gueye which I say for 2 reasons;

Firstly, Robinson has just been let go and I think it's no coincidence in terms of timing so he will be expected to cover there also if need be.

Secondly, I have been reading that character and leadership is why we have chosen him somewhat against Brands model. This leads me to think that last year during the winter we had too many players unacclimatised and the 3 or 4 who were didn't offer show much example.

I think the staff have noticed this soft belly and don't want a repeat and could see both Gueye and Delph in the team scrapping like dogs and setting standards. I'm not a huge Delph fan but I heard a podcast yesterday where John Giles spoke about Roy Keane and said that all his great games came when his team were up against it or his teammates were having poor games and when they were on form he just kept them ticking over. I would agree and think to a much lesser extent Delph is being bought to do the same for us by getting himself and others at it when we aren't able to play our free flowing football.

Pat Kelly
197 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:21:31
8.5m deal agreed it's reported. Delph didn't go to China !
Tony Abrahams
198 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:32:30
Not even on a slow boat Pat, which is how I feel about most of your posts. You remind me of Joe Pesci, in Goodfellas, in the scene were he talks about impending danger, so thanks very much for that good news mate!
Andy Crooks
199 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:32:52
Pat, behave!
Pat Kelly
200 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:40:43
Man City's departure to China was delayed till tomorrow due to some hiccup. But Delph is no longer traveling with them. Only as far as Finch Farm. Read all about it tomorrow.
Pat Kelly
201 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:49:50
https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/7/13/20692836/everton-transfer-rumours-fabian-delph-manchester-city-transfer-fee-agreed-10m-add-ons-news-latest
Jerome Shields
202 Posted 13/07/2019 at 22:57:13
Gana must be going and this is his replacement. Everton need the money. The Debacle prior to Brands and Silva has cost millions.
Pat Kelly
203 Posted 13/07/2019 at 23:21:50
By now Moshiri must understand that joke. How to make millions in football, start with billions.
Danny Baily
204 Posted 13/07/2019 at 23:26:39
Surprised by this when I heard it this morning. Disappointing signing if it comes off.
Ed Prytherch
205 Posted 13/07/2019 at 23:26:56
So Delph is mediocre and he is blocking Tom Davis's progression. Quite a put down on Tom.
Jerome Shields
206 Posted 14/07/2019 at 05:02:29
Brands has been told, get a cheap rep!acement for Gueye. Like for Like age wise. So much for my idea that Brands would only buy a under 25 year old. He has been overrided at Board level. Something had to be done regarding finances. Each position in the Everton team appears to be being dealt within a stand alone approach.
Bobby Mallon
207 Posted 13/07/2019 at 05:51:46
To me it’s just a poor signing and a statement that nothing has changed in our transfer dealings. We have no money for the 3 big buys we need so we go for the cheap option. He is no better than what we have and do 90 grand a week I’ll give them a leader speech every day.
Danny Baily
208 Posted 14/07/2019 at 07:03:55
Bobby 207, exactly. All of Delphs cards are in the table and we know he's a poor player. I'd hope our scouts were able to identify some promising lesser known players instead.
Jim Potter
209 Posted 14/07/2019 at 07:12:28
I don't see him as a marquee signing, just a very competent squad player.

On his day he is a good player - he's 100% committed and a leader on and off the field. Everything I've heard about him suggests a model pro (although it appears he did the dirty on Villa - and their fans see him as a snake).

He can reliably play in numerous positions.

He may not be 'the answer' but he could slot in and do a very decent job.

At that price - why not?

Bill Gienapp
210 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:25:44
Very interesting to read such a wide range of opinions. I'll admit to being on the fence, but I'm heartened to see more than a few strongly endorsing the move.
Mike Connolly
211 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:33:56
Brian, I wish it was lazy jurno but everything points to Delph coming to us. I could believe he got in the England squad and played a few games. Just to add more salt Delph in Ganna out. Hope we're not going back to the bad days of Dave Johnson for Rod Bellfit
Jason Leung
212 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:40:23
What an uninspiring signing. Simple as that. We have gueye and gomes in central midfield with a very capable mcarthy as back up, why on earth sign this guy?
With 4 weeks to go until the season starts, I have no faith we will sign a capable goal scorer and a winger. Then it will be panic buys wasting further money just like Klaasen and Bolasie. Same shit different year.
Hopefully I'm proved wrong!
Matt Traynor
213 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:42:46
Mike #211, the youngsters won't get the horror of that scenario!

I'm also "meh" about this. His injury record is a concern, but again we had similar issues with Peter Reid before we signed him. Then again we also signed big Norman Whiteside

To those suggesting he stiffed Aston Villa, if he'd really wanted to, he could've not signed a new 4.5 year contract in January of that year and left on a free It's possible his about turn was as much about loyalty to Villa as a fear he would be a bit-part in the "City Revolution". It's also possible that then-owner Randy Lerner wanted to cash in on one of their few saleable assets at that time and forced a rethink.

The reality is, as many have identified, we're paying the price for previous profligacy and simply can't spend big on fees or wages, especially after making Gomes permanent. I suspect there's money for Zouma if that can be done, and then maybe one other.

It wasn't that long ago we went 3 or 4 windows without spending a fee on signings...

Annika Herbert
214 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:43:29
Brian@189, it, s also been written that Everton had identified their targets prior to the end of the season and fully intended getting said targets in early where possible.
Unless you also compare those comments to a child too?Some people really do act like total know-it-all’s when replying to other people, posts!!
Denis Richardson
215 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:48:44
Lot of negativity here which I can’t understand tbo.

It’s £8m which in this day and age isn’t a lot of money. If we can shift Besic for £5m then that covers more than half. Hopefully wages won’t be ridiculous so I see 3 year contract as a decent stop gap if Gana goes to PSG - which I think he will.

He’s got a ton of top level experience and has more medals than our current squad pur together. Lord knows we need a winners mentality in the dressing room.

Steve Hogan
216 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:51:05
Jason (212)

'the very capable Mcarthy as backup' you say?

The same Mcarthy who has played just 10 games in three years for us yeah OK.

Annika Herbert
217 Posted 14/07/2019 at 08:52:27
I keep reading about how much experience and leadership Delph will bring to the club. Bearing in mind the guy is hardly ever on the pitch, exactly how dies he bring all this expertise to us?
Or does he do his thing from the treatment room where he spends most of his time?!!!The injured players and physios must be ecstatic at the thought of this injury prone lad being there to provide years of stories about his various misfortunes!!
Maybe one day he may even make it onto the pitch where he can also impart all this so-called experience and leadership skills
Dan Nulty
218 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:01:09
If Delph is good enough for guardiola, he is good enough for me. Better than Mccarthy, schneiderlin, besic, not sure what people's issue is, especially given the price.
Annika Herbert
219 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:05:56
What is the price though Dan@218?Furst it was £6 million, today it, s between £6 and £10, possibly with add on, s!
My issue is that I don, t rate him and never have. Obviously I don, t make these decisions but, in my opinion, this is a really poor signing.
If Guardiola really rated him, why is he being allowed to leave?Those are my issues with this deal
Brian Williams
220 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:16:43
Annika#214.

I think you're being unfair referring to me as a know it all. I was referring (in particular) to this post which I consider childish.

Most inept recruitment team ever, in M and M we trust? Yeah Stevie Wonder too. Some people are so deluded they'd have DCL up top and sell Gana etc, we've got Gomes so we'll hit top 6 with over the hill,over priced costa if we were that mental to even think about signing that joke. It's all banter...no it's not, we've signed nobody as per and commen sense we won't till deadline day when even Crouchy turns us down. Malcom, Neres, Zouma, Incardi, anyone worth a shouta.

I agree the club said they'd try to get their targets in early but the most relevant point in your post are the words "where possible." Not everything is under the control of Brands and he can't DEMAND someone sell when WE want.

But to refer to Brands and Silva as Most inept recruitment team ever, in M and M we trust? Yeah Stevie Wonder too.

I consider very childish.
If that makes me a know all, so be it.

Ian Horan
221 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:42:08
So Delph 8 mill sell Gueye for 45 mill, frees up 35 mill towards a new forward. Its all trade offs. A forward of 60 mill pronably beyond EFC due to FFP. Gain 35 mill in player trading then helps open the door for a goal scorer. Tom Davies has a good engine, he aint no future world class player though. Besic and McCarthy will be gone. Has M&M lets us down yet? In my opion no they havent. All in all if this signing doesnt work out I believe M&M have to be trusted by looking at the bigger picture and not just one signing in isolation
Colette Black
222 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:42:48
It's quite clear that a lot of people aren't convinced by this signing (if it happens), and rightly so.

As Annika points out, why would Guardiola sanction the sale of Delph for the reported 8 to 10 million if he rates him so highly? Clearly, he doesn't. I suspect he's been waiting to offload him since he took the City job. Would we sell Gueye for a similar fee (after all, as some people keep pointing out, they are the same age)? Not a chance.

I hope to God that this purchase is just back-up for sales of the midfield deadwood.

For those in favour - what special quality does he bring ? Is he a great tackler? Is he a prolific goal scorer? Does he take a superb free kick? Has he got fantastic pace? I can't think of anything out of the ordinary this guy could bring - but happy to be enlightened. And please, don't mention experience - we've had heaps of 'experienced' cast-offs and has-beens over the past 20 years and look how many trophies they've helped us to win.

Winston Williamson
223 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:49:42
Delph is a decent player. Nothing more. He’ll push the other three midfielders who have a future at the club. Gana, Gomes, Davies.

Delph provides a minimum standard of competition. He provides cover for both midfield positions. He offers options. He’s cheap. He’s experienced. He knows what it takes to finish in the top 6.

Solid signing.

Ray Roche
224 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:51:46
Colette, I believe he’s in the final year of his contract and, with City bringing in Rodri, Delph’s future looks more likely to be on the bench. Doesn’t make him a bad player. People sneered the arrival of Gareth Barry but he turned out alright.
Having said that, I wouldn’t have bought him if Guaye was staying.
Tony Abrahams
225 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:54:41
Loads of good points Colette, but out of the ordinary footballers are very rare, and Delph, does most things that you would expect from a good midfield player very well.

A player who really knows his job is so important, and although it’s great signing players with the X-factor, it’s players that you can depend on every week, that are the most important aspect of every team?

How many Everton players would have got in City’s team every week under Guardiola? And how many players have we signed over the last ten years, who really know their job?

Sam Hoare
226 Posted 14/07/2019 at 09:58:41
Colette@222 I’d say whilst Delph is not superb at any of those things he’s good at all of them. He’s a better tackler than Gomes, a better passes than Davies and considerably faster and more mobile than Schneiderlin. He’s a very reliable and well rounded player and I think his detractors may be pleasantly surprised.

Some of those cast offs you describe may not have won us trophies but they have improved the squad/team. Any player who can do that is worth getting and if Delph can have the same impact that Gareth Barry did I’m sure Silva and Brands will be delighted.

I wasn’t excited by this transfer at first as I always want the exciting new thing who may just blossom into a superstar but you need balance and I think Delph could bring a lot to the team if he stays fit (which is my main concern as he’s not played a huge amount in last 2 years).

Kevin Prytherch
227 Posted 14/07/2019 at 10:17:01
If Gueye goes, who else are we going to get who’s as quick, mobile, experienced and disciplined as Delph?

Totally uninspiring, but probably confirmation that Gueye is going.

George Cumiskey
228 Posted 14/07/2019 at 10:17:26
I hope if we do sign him he has the most stringent medical ever as his injury history is a bit worrying.
Having said that didn't Peter Reid have a terrible injury record when we signed him and he didn't turn out too bad.
Brian Harrison
229 Posted 14/07/2019 at 10:51:19
Despite whether Delph signs or not I hope that Silva and Brands are not being deflected from what is the main target which is a striker. I know that there is still nearly a month before the window closes, but didnt Silva and Brands say they had lined up their targets and would be making the signings early this window.
Annika Herbert
230 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:06:59
Brian@220, yes apologies are due there, I had wrongly assumed you were referring to something I had written. Sorry I got the wrong end of the stick
Pat Kelly
231 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:11:18
Recent contracts signed : Lossl, 30; Baines, 34; next Delph ?, knocking on 30. Or young Costa ? The grand old team indeed.
Frank Crewe
232 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:22:48
@ Collette 222.
"Would we sell Gueye for a similar fee (after all, as some people keep pointing out, they are the same age)?"

We would if he only had a year left on his contract. As it is Gueye's contract doesn't end until 2022 so at present we can hold out for more money. If Delph had a similar contract we would not be getting him for £8 million.
As for his particular abilities. Think back to when we bought Gueye. He was hardly considered the most exciting buy we had ever made. How many of us knew anything about him? Now that we have discovered he's a decent tackler people are making out we can't live without him.
Whether we like it or not Gueye wants to leave and go to PSG. We can get at least 6 times as much for him as we paid. The very definition of Brands policy of buying young and selling on. We need a replacement. Delph is a good solid player. An England international. He has a lot of experience and is a good motivator on the pitch. He has a few decent seasons still in him and we won't have to break the bank to get him. Outside of tackling, which just gets you booked these days anyway, he's at least as good if not better than Gueye at everything else. I just don't see what you're complaining about. Sorry he's not a £50 million quid marquee buy. He's a decent player at a sensible price. I know that's unusual these days but it is what it is.

Brian Williams
233 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:44:49
Annika#230.

No worries, thankyou. :-)

Tony Abrahams
234 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:44:52
Pat Kelly, you are one funny guy!
Tom Bowers
235 Posted 14/07/2019 at 11:55:21
Talking of injury prone players (and English internationals) does anyone know what's happening with Welbeck and Sturridge both goalscorers and both released.
Would not one of these help Everton as much as Delph especially as what Everton have up front are not exactly lethal weapons ?
Colette Black
236 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:04:02
Thanks for your views, guys - I'm starting to feel a little less underwhelmed should this signing come off.

I just hope we make some quality additions so this one becomes less of a concern.

Jer Kiernan
237 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:15:48
Cant think of a player in the game better at what "he does" than Gana. He will be a big loss IF he goes, We had a good window last summer but the point is we need to be imporving summer after summer, I will reserve judgement on M&M dealings untill the window closes but this lad is a mini Tank and we have him untill 2022 and he doesnt seem the type to sulk

I am getting a bit concerned about how our squad will look compared to last season and instead of getting shot of the deadwood its seems to be our better players that are getting mentioned to move on

We shall wait see

@Pat -Nice one :)

Dave Abrahams
238 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:20:41
Tom (235), if Sturridge wasn’t so injury prone, for want of a better phrase, he would still fetch a very good price, I wouldn’t mind Sturridge as a “ pay as you play” deal, and stress that we pay him by the minute.
Mike Connolly
239 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:20:57
Why do people point to Gareth Barry when trying to justify Delph. In both players heydays, Barry was streets ahead of Delph. Although when we signed Barry, I was a bit sceptical However his quality shined through. At the moment I'm trying to think of Delph's quality's.
Andrew Keatley
240 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:23:46
Maybe I’m easily pleased but on paper Delph for under £10 million is a positive move for us.

Being deemed surplus to requirements at Man City is probably more a reflection on the embarrassment of riches Guardiola has on offer than a major indictment on Delph’s ability. I also think that Delph’s natural game is not an exact fit for the City style and also contributed to his proposed departure.

Some people think getting cast-offs from the top clubs is not a good transfer policy. Signing the best players from relegated clubs is also frowned upon. Signing players over the age of 26 will limit any potential sell-on value - but then when we do have to sell our best players then there are protests about that too. There is no easy street; new signings are unlikely to be popular across the board. The dreamer in me gets excited about unearthing new talent - but the pragmatist in me gets excited about a signing like Delph, who should hit the ground running.

Annika Herbert
241 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:23:59
Frank@232, the only thing I can think of that Delph is better than Gueye At is passing. He does, nt come close close in any other Unless you count bring injured in which case Delph is a clear winner!!
As for this on field leader and motivator, how the hell does he do that from the bench or, as is more likely, the treatment room?!!!!

Mike Connolly
242 Posted 14/07/2019 at 12:42:08
Colette stick with your gut feelings. Delph is not the answer
Andrew Keatley
243 Posted 14/07/2019 at 13:01:20
Annika (232) - I'd suggest he's better in the air. I reckon he's better at shooting - especially from long distance. He's got a better goals-per-minute playing record over the course of his career. He's got a better assists-per-minute playing record over the course of his career.

I also think that his injury history is a tad over-stated. He had a cruciate injury about ten years ago that kept him out for a year, and then he had a handful of injuries when he was at City, the worst of which kept him out for about five months.

Gavin Johnson
244 Posted 14/07/2019 at 13:38:57
Kevin #171


I saw a couple of headlines that Bundesliga sides want Joe Williams but didn't read the report to see who the clubs are. Of course it could be bollocks but then again Joe's been playing week in, week out in the Championship and got a lot of attention. I don't understand why you don't think a Bundesliga team would want him on loan. As a whole the Bundesliga are buying and loaning cheaper younger talent. If he did go on loan, it doesn't guarantee he'd play each week.

I posted early in the thread that I felt that Delph's signing would have made more sense we'd got rid of Baines, freed up wages from an already bloated squad and used a combination of Delph/Robinson to cover for Digne. Delph's ability to be utility player would have made him more useful.

The other instance I felt that this move makes sense if we sell some of our other midfielders, but maybe I was over estimating our board, just assuming they'll bring in someone comparable to Gueye's ability, some exciting talent from the French league, or Franck Kessie from AC milan, but maybe they're just use a combination of Delph and Schneiderlin to replace him. They'll do a job between them. Delph when he's fit, and Schneiderlin when he's interested. It'll work, but we won't break the top 6, so the same old, same old same old then.

Gavin Johnson
245 Posted 14/07/2019 at 13:38:57
Kevin #171


I saw a couple of headlines that Bundesliga sides want Joe Williams but didn't read the report to see who the clubs are. Of course it could be bollocks but then again Joe's been playing week in, week out in the Championship and got a lot of attention. I don't understand why you don't think a Bundesliga team would want him on loan. As a whole the Bundesliga are buying and loaning cheaper younger talent. If he did go on loan, it doesn't guarantee he'd play each week.

I posted early in the thread that I felt that Delph's signing would have made more sense we'd got rid of Baines, freed up wages from an already bloated squad and used a combination of Delph/Robinson to cover for Digne. Delph's ability to be utility player would have made him more useful.

The other instance I felt that this move makes sense if we sell some of our other midfielders, but maybe I was over estimating our board, just assuming they'll bring in someone comparable to Gueye's ability, some exciting talent from the French league, or Franck Kessie from AC milan, but maybe they're just use a combination of Delph and Schneiderlin to replace him. They'll do a job between them. Delph when he's fit, and Schneiderlin when he's interested. It'll work, but we won't break the top 6, so the same old, same old same old then.

Gavin Johnson
246 Posted 14/07/2019 at 13:38:58
Kevin #171


I saw a couple of headlines that Bundesliga sides want Joe Williams but didn't read the report to see who the clubs are. Of course it could be bollocks but then again Joe's been playing week in, week out in the Championship and got a lot of attention. I don't understand why you don't think a Bundesliga team would want him on loan. As a whole the Bundesliga are buying and loaning cheaper younger talent. If he did go on loan, it doesn't guarantee he'd play each week.

I posted early in the thread that I felt that Delph's signing would have made more sense we'd got rid of Baines, freed up wages from an already bloated squad and used a combination of Delph/Robinson to cover for Digne. Delph's ability to be utility player would have made him more useful.

The other instance I felt that this move makes sense if we sell some of our other midfielders, but maybe I was over estimating our board, just assuming they'll bring in someone comparable to Gueye's ability, some exciting talent from the French league, or Franck Kessie from AC milan, but maybe they're just use a combination of Delph and Schneiderlin to replace him. They'll do a job between them. Delph when he's fit, and Schneiderlin when he's interested. It'll work, but we won't break the top 6, so the same old, same old same old then.

Paul Tran
247 Posted 14/07/2019 at 13:52:43
I'm not really interested in who we're linked with so there's no point in getting steamed up about lazy journalism & click bait.

Delph is a good, solid player with a poor injury record. We have a squad full of mentally brittle players who, in my view, need a bit of leadership and nous. So while he isn't a 'marquee' signing, he brings something we lack. Something that will benefit the younger players who don't have much to look up to.

At £8/9m, he may prove a very astute signing on more than one level. After the failed, expensive 'marquee' signings of two years ago, perhaps a sign that the cheque book is now held by adults?

Amit Vithlani
248 Posted 14/07/2019 at 14:04:48
I strongly suspect Gueye is leaving. I recall reading somewhere that the club would not sanction a sale in January principally because it was a bad time to look for a replacement. Gueye has truly played out of his skin for club and country and I fully expect PSG will now push for a deal. Gueye himself said it would be a dream move for him and I do not think it would make sense to fob off PSG.

The club simply need to get the best price possible for him and move on.

If Delph is indeed his replacement, given Gana's unbelievably consistent appearance record, I am worried in that department.

Denis Richardson
249 Posted 14/07/2019 at 14:22:10
Lot of people already made up their minds the guys not good enough/ going to fit. Each entitled to their opinion.

Personally I’d look at it as (hopefully) getting rid of Besic and McCarthy (neither of whom actually play for us but we pay for) and swapping them with Delph, who would play.

That would be a definite improvement.

Derek Knox
250 Posted 14/07/2019 at 14:34:34
Paul @ 247, good common sense post mate, I can't quite fathom all the slagging off of a player who hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet, but as you say does represent good business in this crazy inflated market.

Everyone crying out for a marquee signing, usually at marquee prices, yet no guarantee they will 'fit into the system' we have had a few in the past who have on paper promised much yet have delivered nothing.

At least with Delph he has a proven track record in the Prem, with 2 Champions Medals to prove it. I don't think we will regret this move assuming it does, as looks very likely, happens.

For fear of repetition, we as fans all want the best for Everton, but are not privy to what is happening either behind the scenes or in the transfer market, so I trust in M Brands, who in my eyes at any rate has not delivered a bad signing yet.

John McFarlane Snr
251 Posted 14/07/2019 at 14:54:17
Hi Dave [238] I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of Daniel Sturridge, and how you would reward him on a 'play per game' basis.

I have done my best to avoid getting embroiled in the merits/faults of various players, but the contents of some posts have forced me to add my two-penneth. My view is that, once they join Everton they should all receive encouragement; after all they then become member's of the 'Grand Old Team'.

Gavin Johnson
252 Posted 14/07/2019 at 15:11:53
This deal will look better once McCarthy and Besic have gone. I'm sure a team like Palace or Newcastle will take McCarthy for around £10m+. That immediately makes Delph look kike a good signing.

A championship club will have Besic, even if we have to loan him for the final year of his contract.

Dan Nulty
253 Posted 14/07/2019 at 15:12:15
Pep trusted him enough 30 times last year. He has spent a fortune in midfield andendy is fit again at left back with the other lad improving last season.

Honestly, £10m given Danny Ings cost £20m, Fred cost £52m, Schneiderlin cost £25m... seems like a no-brainer.

He isn't being signed as a world beater, he isn't a Marquee signing.

Get over it, trust in the people who recruited much better for us last year and let's be positive.

Kevin Dyer
254 Posted 14/07/2019 at 15:29:47
Kieran #174 fair points. I'd thought Williams was only 19 and hadn't realised he'd played so much on loan. Ignorance is no excuse though! In that case I can see why we should be considering getting him games in a top league, if he won't be part of our first team. In 12 months time we should have a firm idea of where he and Kenny stand in terms of their futures with us.
Mike Corcoran
255 Posted 14/07/2019 at 15:53:35
Plenty of respect from City fans here:

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/fabian-delph.340605/page-44

Annika Herbert
256 Posted 14/07/2019 at 17:03:53
Andrew @243, maybe the fact that Delph played in a more advanced position than Gueye also had something to do with him s. . .
Annika Herbert
257 Posted 14/07/2019 at 17:06:26
Oops, I posted before I had finished writing! My post should read:

"Maybe the fact Delph played in a more advanced position had a lot to do with him scoring more and creating more chances, eh?"

Andrew Keatley
258 Posted 14/07/2019 at 17:49:46
Annika (257) - More advanced? They've both played central/defensive midfield for the vast majority of their careers, with Delph filling in occasionally at left back in the last couple of seasons. They have very similar goal and assist stats, but Delph's are slightly better. Maybe you don't like stats but here they are anyway, courtesy of Transfermarkt.

Fabian Delph: Games Goals Assists
Central Midfield 107 7 5
Left-Back 39 - 3
Defensive Midfield 27 3 2
Left Midfield 20 1 1
Attacking Midfield 2 1 -
Right-Back 1 - -
Right Midfield 1 - -

Idrissa Gueye: Games Goals Assists
Central Midfield 155 7 8
Defensive Midfield 123 4 3
Right Midfield 3 - -
Attacking Midfield 2 - -

It's slightly annoying to have had to resort to stat-fetching, but I hope it might take this particular conversation away from just claiming things that are not based in fact.

Derek Knox
259 Posted 14/07/2019 at 17:58:06
Mike @ 255, thanks for the link, they are all saying good things about him, I don't think he'll turn out to be a mistake either, very astute again M Brands take a bow. (but not an arrow)
Annika Herbert
260 Posted 14/07/2019 at 18:51:26
Andrew @258, as it happens, I don't pore over stats so, on that point, you are right. But you make no mention of the amount of games played by both player, as stated by your precious stats. Indeed, no mention at all of the fact Gueye has played almost double the amount of games Delph has during the same period!

But I generally take little notice of stats anyway due to the generalisation that they always use regarding a player's position. By the way, I feel your stats suggest more than a hint of minor injuries as you suggest in your earlier post, given the difference in appearances.

Martin Mason
261 Posted 14/07/2019 at 20:19:15
Surely one reason Delph didn't play a lot was that he is competing in a better team?
Annika Herbert
262 Posted 14/07/2019 at 20:21:34
Martin @261, or more likely he was injured a damn sight more often!!
Tony Twist
263 Posted 14/07/2019 at 20:31:23
Signing Delph is insignificant, where is the centre forward Marcel!?
Andrew Keatley
264 Posted 14/07/2019 at 21:03:49
Annika (260) - Your initial argument was that Delph had more goals and assists because he played in a more advanced role - an assumption that is largely incorrect (as backed up by your enemy - stats!), and then you say Gueye has played “almost double the amount of games” - which you seem to mention as a plus point for Gueye. So Delph has a better record than Gueye when it comes to assists and goals, even though Gueye has played in “almost double the amount of games”? Sounds like a reason to be grateful for the arrival of Delph if he is doubly productive.

Delph’s injury history is well-documented. He’s certainly missed significant chunks of football but he was injury-free last season, and would be signing for us with no current issues.

Ian Pilkington
265 Posted 14/07/2019 at 00:02:03
I was underwhelmed by this signing, however my best friend is a City season ticket holder; he rates Delph highly and regards his best position as central midfield.
He believes Guardiola lost some confidence in him due to two reckless dismissals, one of which was their FA Cup defeat at Wigan, and not surprisingly, it was difficult for him to compete for selection in central midfield against De Bruyne and Fernandinho.

Ed Prytherch
266 Posted 15/07/2019 at 01:34:57
If Delph had been at Everton last season and Gana at Man City, then Delph would have played more games than Gana.
Alan J Thompson
267 Posted 15/07/2019 at 07:47:14
Annika & Andrew; I'm not one for statistics as they can be read in many ways but if you are using them then how do they both compare to, say, the "best" three midfielders sets of statistics and the "best" in the same midfield positions as these two. Or do you think that as we may not be signing the best that it is irrelevant?
Jason Broome
268 Posted 15/07/2019 at 10:14:55
Some Everton fans...
Delph at 29 doesn't fit the young player profile.

Gana Gueye at 29 fits the profile, give him more money and tie him down to a new contract.

Quite a few Everton fans...
Delph should stay at Manchester City!

Quite a few Man City fans...
Delph should stay at Manchester City!

Some Everton fans...
A priority is that we need experienced cover at Left Back as Baines cannot play a full season for an injured Digne. We also need to trim the fat in the defensive midfield. We also need funds for a striker asap!

Some Everton fans...
Even though he is good cover at Left Back for an injured Digne and he is also an experienced defensive midfielder allowing us to trim the fat and sell at least 3 of the other defensive midfielders (providing funds for a striker)... they don't want him!!!


Silly season in full effect... Go figure! Mr Brands... Please take the wheel.

Gerry Ring
269 Posted 15/07/2019 at 10:16:29
To be fair to James McCarthy, his latest injury, the double leg break, was as a result of trying to retrieve a lazy pass from Schneiderlein, which would probably have resulted in a Watford goal. This has left him out of the game for 18 months. It’s not like he tripped up at training! We also know that Martinez played him when not fully fit which exasperated then problem. Maybe we should give him an opportunity to show what he has, before offloading him for a small fee, which looks like happening.
Tony Abrahams
271 Posted 15/07/2019 at 11:01:20
Agree Gerry, especially if we are going to sell Gueye, which I think is quite likely now, just for its prudence, considering we still need to spend big on other players?

James Marshall
272 Posted 15/07/2019 at 11:19:10
So a lot of people seem upset with this signing, but Pep Guardiola rates him highly. Hmm?

Now I have plenty of respect for people having an opinion, but Guardiola knows a player when he see's one. I would suggest that Delph didn't play a great deal due to the players ahead of him as much as injury.

29 years old? So what? Meaningless in the modern game. Remember when everyone on here complained about us signing Gareth Barry? He turned out to be one of the best players we've signed in years (in my view) so again, opinions...

Rob Halligan
274 Posted 15/07/2019 at 12:54:27
james, good point about the age of Delph. I wonder if PSG fans are complaining that they could be in with a chance of signing a 29, soon to be 30 year old from Everton for about £30M - £35M.
Eric Myles
275 Posted 15/07/2019 at 13:26:32
Gerry #269, wasn't it O'Neill playing a not fully fit McCarthy in the Ireland games that caused his prolonged injury spell not Martinez?
David Pearl
276 Posted 15/07/2019 at 13:39:29
100% Eric
Nicholas Ryan
277 Posted 15/07/2019 at 13:50:27
I think we should look at it this way; We will acquire Fabian Delph and Andre Gomes, for a combined £30m. In a world where teams will pay £80m for Harry Maguire, that seems to me, to be good business!

As to his age; Justin Gatlin won the 100 metres at a Diamond League meeting over the weekend, in 9.91: Delph is 8 years younger than Gatlin; 5 years younger than Chris Froome; and 8 years younger than Roger Federer!!

Si Cooper
278 Posted 15/07/2019 at 14:01:13
Was underwhelmed by signing Gareth Barry but that turned out okay. Will wait until we actually sign him and watch him play for us before I make any assessment.
Andrew Keatley
279 Posted 15/07/2019 at 14:07:31
Alan J Thompson (267) - Short answer is no idea. Contrary to my earlier posts I am not someone who consults the stats very often, but with posts on here making what I thought were unfair/inaccurate comparisons of Delph and Gana I thought I'd have a look and see what the stats said.

Nicholas (277) - The question will always be whether Froome and Gatlin have managed to achieve those results without significant artificial help. I know people who are fairly adamant that the answer to that question is no. Federer is something else. The man rarely breaks sweat. One of the greatest sportspeople of all-time.

Mike Doyle
280 Posted 15/07/2019 at 14:25:31
James #272 is spot on. The ageing Gareth Barry was great value. Going back to the 80s I recall fellow blues asking at the time why we had wasted
... £60k on that "crock" (Peter Reid)
... £200k on "past it" (Andy Gray)
and most wasteful all
... £100 on a 2nd rate ex-bin man from Port Vale (Neville Southall).
Si Smith
281 Posted 15/07/2019 at 14:40:05
Lots of comments here men, but my 2 Bob's worth is that at £8m then Delph is a decent addition.

Besic out for £5m makes it a no brainer, but I feel like we may even lose another 2 or 3 centre midfielders in McCarthy, Schneiderlin and Gana.

Fingers crossed we keep Gana, but I'm not convinced.

T Blanshard
282 Posted 15/07/2019 at 15:15:10
He'll be a good signing, like Gareth Barry he could end up being an inspired choice. It was probably his agents that pushed for a 3-year contract because of his age.

I think he's going to do really well for us and I trust both Marco and Marcel. COYB

Ray Roche
283 Posted 15/07/2019 at 17:35:59
Mike, Southall came from Bury, I think we loaned him to Port Vale.
James Marshall
285 Posted 15/07/2019 at 20:24:56
Looking like a done deal now - SSN are saying he's flown in to join the rest of our squad in Switzerland or wherever they are right now, albeit the deal hasn't been announced.

For all Marcel Brands preference for younger players with potential, and resale value, I'd suggest it's worth noting that squads & teams need balance when it comes to age & experience. Delph also offers versatility at either left-back or midfield which give further value to the signing in my view.

Of course we'd all like to be signing the next 'bright young thing' from FC Superstardom but the reality isn't all Roy of the Rovers and we may yet pull off the coup of Moise Kean if the press are to be believed on that front (I know, I know).

Add to that the potential signing of Diego Costa (yep, again, I know, nutcase and 31 in October) who could offer plenty when it comes to a presence upfront, and I would also say that he would be adored by Evertonians. Our support love someone who gives it his all, and love him or loathe him, Costa is a nightmare for defenders and he scores goals in this league. Him & Kean up-top would be an interesting combination if nothing else.

Pat Kelly
286 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:13:15
Delph set for Everton
Brian Williams
287 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:22:51
James. Everton WON'T be buying Costa mate.
Kieran Kinsella
288 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:29:29
His goals per game records is worse than James McCarthy's though better than Schneiderlin, Davies, Gueye's or Bernards. Gomez has the best record of the central midfielders but he scores in less than 10% of games. All of which means it puts extra pressure on our strikers and wide boys.
Dave Lynch
289 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:41:23
FFS!
I recall Barry being a waste of space according to some on here when we bought him, he did us proud.

I also recall quite a few on here calling Gueye a championship player at best when we signed him.

Give the lad a chance will ya, we haven't kicked a ball in anger yet and already he's shit.

Steve Ferns
291 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:49:32
Delph confirmed. 3 year deal. It’s on the official site.
Sam Hoare
292 Posted 15/07/2019 at 21:50:20
Delph confirmed. Sensible if unspectacular signing. If he stays fit I think he’ll pleasantly surprise a few.
Kieran Kinsella
293 Posted 15/07/2019 at 22:21:05
Pat Kelly @295,

Ahhh... that explains why he also referenced Kenwright's mum, the Clattenberg derby, and something about ringfencing money at Tesco's!

James Hughes
294 Posted 15/07/2019 at 22:24:16
Echo are reporting that the transfer has been completed.
Three year deal for £8.5 million
Bobby Mallon
295 Posted 15/07/2019 at 22:26:41
We have Delph, he's signed £8.5 million.
Darren Murphy
296 Posted 15/07/2019 at 22:46:52
@187 Mike agreed, thanks. A little jet lagged but you get my point lad.

@ 189 Brian Williams lol. Childish to post an opinion eh ? I'll post what I like as long as it's in from decent taste.

I was born and bred in our town next to our ground in the 70's, have been a soldier then Marine ever since. Moved to London at 20 because I have a better life with the kids and girlfriend regards my job.

I'm a STH for years since the old man rested his head up there and years before that. Played pro football, basketball and several martial arts etc.

Don't try out smart a fella who made an opinion tired protecting this country and planet out to be childish because I thought our slow inept recruitment frustrates me, let alone many others.

There's plenty of like said comments made and I agree with them.

You cut and paste me lol.

Next time address me personally and I'll for sure reply 101%. If I didn't spend the last few months doing my job I'd of posted my piece a bit more concise...don't make a post you don't agree with "childish ".

It's plain as day my post made sense, if a little lazy due to jet lag etc.

Ain't gonna fall out with a blue but get your facts right.

What I said I stand by and with a bit more better wording would be fine.

No dramas man seen more poke over seas. Glad to be home and see the many decent familer people posting I know ..missed ya lads. Good to be home.

Brian Wilkinson
297 Posted 22/07/2019 at 21:06:00
I still stand by my posting@100, Delph will be one of the best signings we have made for a long time.

He will bring leadership in the dressing room and onto the pitch, something we have lacked for a while, someone vocal on the pitch.

Give the guy a chance, I am well made up we got the guy.

Absolute steal at that price.

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