Jean-Philippe Gbamin has suffered a fresh setback in his recovery from a serious quadriceps injury and is set to undergo another operation.
The Ivorian made just two starts for Everton following a £23m move from Mainz last summer before tearing a muscle in his thigh during training.
The injury ended up being much worse than feared and Gbamin has reportedly had two surgeries already and had returned to an individualised training regimen this month.
He had been pencilled in for March for a potential return to action but it now looks as though he might not play until the closing stages of the season if he is able to figure this term at all.
There was better news for André Gomes, however. Carlo Ancelotti says the Portuguese expects to be back in an Everton jersey before the end of February despite suffering a fracture dislocation of his right ankle in November.
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1 Posted 31/01/2020 at 15:44:27
2 Posted 31/01/2020 at 15:47:39
3 Posted 31/01/2020 at 15:53:48
On a positive, Gomes is a machine
4 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:03:02
5 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:11:19
6 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:14:42
7 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:24:59
8 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:33:30
9 Posted 31/01/2020 at 16:34:33
10 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:05:32
Interesting on Williamson. I rated him at west ham but I heard Kendall suggest injuries apart he wasnt any good.
11 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:08:02
Gomes should be back next season but will he be the same ? He's had his own niggling injuries before this latest. Not convinced he'll be dependable long term. Another Delph possibly.
12 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:13:16
Everton hadn't misdiagnosed my injury problem.
I think a better phrase would be the highly qualified medical consultants to which Everton sent me were unable to treat my problem as despite being the best in the world, they got it wrong.
Much as we want to malign the medical staff at Everton at being only one grade up from a bunch of quacks, then the people who operated each time on JPG will have been ones of the best in the Country/Europe/World. You don't spent £20m on a player and then get some butcher fresh out of medical school to do the operation.
13 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:23:57
14 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:29:00
15 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:29:45
I would like to see Holgate getting more time in that position he looked very comfortable when asked to play there.
16 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:29:51
Richarlison will be sold this evening at 22:55. However I have no knowledge or information to back this up.
Well he started it................................
17 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:34:29
This setback is not, however, a major surprise to me. All the reading I did indicated that this was a 9-to-12 month injury, and I was startled that he was back in training after less than four. By way of comparison, NBA star Victor Oladipo returned to the court Wednesday night, one year and one week after suffering the same injury.
We should definitely NOT judge the medicos for this -- I agree with Phil that Gbamin will have had the best of the best, but sometimes things just don't work out.
And Mike #9, I don't think we should make a panic buy in the final hours of the window just because of this. The season is essentially done -- we're not going to Europe, we're not going down, we're out of the Cups, so let's just get through the next few months and wait to see what Marcel and Carlo can do in the summer window.
(And by the way, Oladipo was great the other night, so let's definitely not give up on Gbamin.)
18 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:34:38
The yanks never landed on the moon. No evidence to back this up but...
19 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:39:09
20 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:45:53
I was simply repeating what Danny Williamson told me when he was out injured.
As to my thoughts, I keep an open mind. I started my post saying I felt so sorry for Gbamin, which is what I feel – and feel is most relevant now and indeed important.
I made the comment on Danny Williamson because of the fact Gavin had mentioned the name and brought him up. Maybe drop Danny a line and tell him next time he is trying to sell a house, not to use such inappropriate words!
I am sure he was pissed off about his injury predicament and where he was at with it when I met him, so any anger on his part would be understandable. I felt that he just wanted to play football which I applaud.
21 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:50:03
22 Posted 31/01/2020 at 17:58:40
How do you recover from such a serious injury? Surely rest, rest and more rest would be hugely important.
23 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:02:15
How can the Everton medical staff get no credit for Gomes's speedy recovery but all of the blame for Gbamin? I can't see the logic there...
I fear for Gbamin as much of his game is built on his speed. I believe this injury could significantly affect his pace. Fingers crossed for him.
24 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:02:47
25 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:13:59
I think he eliminated the bacon for health reasons.
26 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:14:56
27 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:21:55
This is a notch up from Rooneys granny shuttle between Liverpool and Manchester.
28 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:21:58
29 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:24:56
30 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:29:55
31 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:30:01
There must be countless stories of professional footballers either playing through serious injuries on painkillers or injections along with being misdiagnosed. Let alone the ones that kept quiet. At Everton, I'm thinking of Michael Ball, Big Dunc, Dan Gosling, Michael Keane, but the list must be pretty long.
32 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:31:08
It just takes time, patience and a good surgeon. And Oladipo is three years older than Gbamin.
Don't give up on him.
33 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:34:58
34 Posted 31/01/2020 at 18:57:37
Comedy gold, I thought at the time, and still do. Nice fella, I thought. Had a room full of football boots and trainers along with a treadmill in there too. For whatever reason, I didn't buy the house!
35 Posted 31/01/2020 at 19:05:20
36 Posted 31/01/2020 at 19:11:14
37 Posted 31/01/2020 at 19:19:18
38 Posted 31/01/2020 at 20:17:09
Another major difference between Olapido and Gbamin is the sports they play. Olapido plays with tremendous strength and power, more so than Gbamin, but it's the kicking action that Gbamin will have to repeat hundreds of times a week that puts a shuddering and jolting pressure on the muscle and tendons in the knee. It's unique to football, and it's why he will struggle more than basketball or baseball players who have made recoveries from similar injuries. Gbamin's setback and further surgery was sadly predictable.
39 Posted 31/01/2020 at 21:04:37
If he's had three operations on the same problem, it becomes difficult to be optimistic for him. Expect him to be out for some or all of next season and then?
I'll echo what Mike Gaynes said, no panic buys, we're not going down and we'll have so much more choice at better prices come the summer.
40 Posted 31/01/2020 at 21:49:23
Oladipo is 12 months into his. Gbamin is a bit over 3 months into his.
You may be right, you may not... but if you don't mind, I'll wait until the one-year mark before deciding whether the surgical decision made in Gbamin's case has been "undeniably proven to be the wrong one." Since we don't know the comparative specifics of their two injuries, a reasonable measure will be to compare the timing, and completeness, of Gbamin's comeback to Oladipo's.
Also, we know nothing of Oladipo's possible setbacks along the way, including whether he had additional procedures. Neither he nor the Pacers said a word during the entire process.
Gbamin was first injured in September and operated on in October. As far as I'm concerned, that means the jury will remain out for quite some time. If he's not back in our midfield next fall, you will have been proven correct... but not until then, IMO.
41 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:07:43
I enjoyed that anecdote a lot.
42 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:15:19
43 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:22:09
44 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:26:26
The protracted injury lay-off we can now expect for JPG seems like exactly the sort of thing that FFP should have some flexibility for. Looks like we are desperately hoping for a speedy full recovery for Gomes and a couple of other midfielders stepping it up a couple of notches for the rest of the season.
45 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:40:29
I continue to believe that our deployment of this player for his first time in the Premier League when plainly not match fit, and with a history of thigh injury, was deeply foolish.
46 Posted 31/01/2020 at 22:43:49
I just noticed that too. I guess it is him. The medical staff were good in my day also. Especially the year I scored 60 goals to top that Boro fellow.
47 Posted 31/01/2020 at 23:28:59
Sadly for a combative central defensive midfielder another setback before fully recovering is a disaster.
We can't wait and see. We need to take a worse case scenario approach and identify a long term replacement to bring in in the summer.
I hope he makes a quick, full recovery but I'm worried for him.
We then unbelievably bought an older player in with a worse injury record and surprise surprise he's been mostly injured. I think Delph is a good midfielder but you can't rely on a player with such a poor injury record.
Gomes also needs to prove himself having also had a few bad injuries over the last few years. I can't blame Gana for going but would love him or similar in the summer.
Fitness and robustness can't be overlooked because of age. We need top quality, first team ready players in the summer. Midfield has always been a key position. We're average because our midfield is.
48 Posted 31/01/2020 at 23:41:42
That puts a different slant on things and is a reason for optimism IMHO.
49 Posted 01/02/2020 at 00:30:52
It was reported prior to his signing that he was injury prone.
Hope his operation is successful and he makes a full recovery.
50 Posted 01/02/2020 at 00:40:14
When we signed him Silva said he needed a few weeks to get up to speed, suddenly (due to other injuries?) he was in the team, next thing he was injured...I hope we ticked the insurance box and kept the receipt. Or its another £23M down the swanee.
51 Posted 01/02/2020 at 01:35:59
52 Posted 01/02/2020 at 01:42:31
Am I the only one on TW who isnt a former Everton player using a pseudonym?
53 Posted 01/02/2020 at 02:19:55
Ive heard that your brain can misread things that are spelt wrong cause your brain interprets what you expect to read instead of what you are reading. Maybe we are the only ones who read the actual words?
54 Posted 01/02/2020 at 02:40:57
55 Posted 01/02/2020 at 02:56:04
Gbamin was NOT, repeat NOT, injury prone when we bought him. On the contrary, he was remarkably durable.
He had missed about eight games over the previous THREE SEASONS in the Bundesliga. Total. Last season, he missed the first two out of 34 that Mainz played due to a thigh strain. He didn't miss a game due to injury the rest of the season. In a league that tough, he qualifies as an iron man.
So please stop spreading the BS about him being injury-prone. This is the first serious problem of his career.
56 Posted 01/02/2020 at 03:02:57
57 Posted 01/02/2020 at 03:15:16
58 Posted 01/02/2020 at 03:39:16
Yes HK signed him. What I read was Kendall said “I thought I was signing a really good player with Danny Williamson. He was my biggest disappointment.” The interviewer — I think it was the Echo — didnt follow up with a “how was he disappointing? Cause he got injured? Cause hes crap?” So it was a bit of a cryptic remark that left me wondering as I really rated him personally pre Everton and I was quite excited when he signed.
59 Posted 01/02/2020 at 06:19:55
I do distinctly remember reading a Article at that time referring to Gbamin as being injury prone. It appears to have been inaccurate according to information in your post.
I had assumed the article was correct, which goes to show you should never assume, because if you assume you make a _ass_out of_u_and_me_
Sorry Mr Brands, but I have been of the opinion that you had to take risks on injury prone players in the transfer market given Evertons reputation as a career move. In the main it has worked out.
Gbamin was a really good footballer with stats to prove it, as Sam confirmed at the time. Therefore it is really bad luck for Gbamin and Everton. Hope his operation is a success and he makes a complete recovery, he has youth on his side.
60 Posted 01/02/2020 at 08:52:31
We have managed without them albeit with a struggle at times,and they and we have been very unfortunate not to see the pairing at the best but we can wait.
61 Posted 01/02/2020 at 09:17:07
62 Posted 01/02/2020 at 10:26:59
63 Posted 01/02/2020 at 10:30:49
64 Posted 01/02/2020 at 10:59:32
65 Posted 01/02/2020 at 11:14:23
66 Posted 01/02/2020 at 11:55:37
68 Posted 01/02/2020 at 19:59:45
69 Posted 02/02/2020 at 12:04:20
We have a poster embodying a former "player" Danny Williamson Derek Acora style??another telling a rambling story of buying houses, mums cleaning and conversations with doctors from the club.
I can only assume everyone was a bit pissed.
We also have some world class assumptions concerning what actually happened pre op, the op itself and post op, one poster is so sure of the doomed outcome I'm starting to think he was in the theatre when the mangled surgery took place, and finally the revelation that we don't have any proper surgeons here as all this fancy medical science can only be found in the USA or Holland!
70 Posted 02/02/2020 at 22:13:54
I agree with you 100%
Gomes is quality, but we need him fully fit, not rushed back for the sake of a league position.
What will be, will be. Andre is here for the long term, not the short term!
Onwards and upwards. Andre is part of our future.
71 Posted 03/02/2020 at 21:25:29
72 Posted 04/02/2020 at 23:10:10
73 Posted 05/02/2020 at 18:15:40
I have 0 knowledge of this type of injury, but a friend of mine told me about a current NBA player who suffered the same, and he's not been able to come back at 100%. Hope that's not the case for him/us.
It's almost like the last lingering disaster from Silva. JPG had just played his last game for Ivory Coast in the 2019 AFCON in mid-July, 3 weeks before we signed him, and if memory serves, only had maybe 7-8 days of pre-season training. He went as far to tell Silva he "didn't feel fit" but Marco still slotted him directly into the starting XI. What a terrible decision that turned out to be.
Here's to hoping he comes back to become an integral midfielder for 2020/21.
74 Posted 06/02/2020 at 18:11:01
The following were: Pickford, Schneiderlein, Sigurdsson, Bolasie, Keane, Sandro. (Most 1st teamers).
We made/will make losses on Klaassen, Sandro, Bolasie but made/will make gains on Gueye, Lookman and Pickford (if sold). Likes of Williams and Martina came on frees.
There were some duds and some okay signings so, on the whole, I'm not sure how you can say Koeman 'wrecked the club'.
Martinez signed a lot of dross as well as some good players. Silva signed Gbamin. Unfortunate injury but none of us can say whether he'll work out – may never play for us as it is. Mina also doesn't seem a £25M defender to me and Kean will hopefully come good under Ancelotti (certainly wasn't performing under Silva) – these three alone cost the club about £75M. Also signed Delph on about £100k/week wages and his contribution has been questionable to date.
Managers make good and bad signings and unfortunately the bad ones hang around for ages because no-one else wants them. (Look how much Man Utd are still paying Sanchez a week and he doesn't even play for them!)
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