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Leipzig renew interest in Lookman

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Red Bull Leipzig appear to be ready to test Everton's resolve over Ademola Lookman again according to a report in Germany.

The Bundesliga side have been trying to land the talented forward since his successful loan spell there last year but the Blues rebuffed their advances in each of the last two transfer windows.

Kicker are reporting that Leipzig aren't giving up on Lookman, however, and will try again with a fresh bid this summer while MailSport claim that the Germans have submitted a revised offer of £22.5m after having a £13m bid turned down.

Updates Sky Sports are now saying that Everton have received an official offer from Leipzig. The Mail report it to be the previously mentioned £22.5m but the offer is pegged at around £15m by Paul Joyce of The Times and Andy Hunter of The Guardian and it has been rejected.

Meanwhile, the BBC's Phil McNulty reports that Everton have put a £25m asking price on Lookman and are not prepared to sell him on the cheap.



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David Ellis
1 Posted 08/07/2019 at 03:41:20
If we're not going to use him we should sell him. Personally I think he's so exciting we should be playing him as a starter...but I guess his all round game isn't where it needs to be.
Jay Harris
2 Posted 08/07/2019 at 06:09:34
Bit of a contradiction there David "we should be playing him as a starter...but I guess his all round game isn't where it needs to be."

Very true the lad has talent but not the application and attitude required for 90 minutes week in week out in the Prem.

Ive gone from thinking he could be a real talent to sitting on the fence now.

He could have been another NArcus RAshford but his dedication does not appear to be there.

Alan J Thompson
3 Posted 08/07/2019 at 06:37:58
While Lookman didn't come through our junior ranks we do seem to have a problem encouraging him and at least Dowell in to putting more in to their game when not in possession especially when the work rate of both Bernard and Richarlison could be pointed out.

Given we seem to have been linked with so many wide players on top of those we have already I do wonder if Lookman's future is with us or if he'll go the same way as Deulofeu.

Alex Kociuba
4 Posted 08/07/2019 at 07:50:51
Season-long loan I think would suit everyone, and charge them a decent amount for it. If we sell him we should have a buy-back fee and/or 50% sell on fee clause. He's clearly got potential so we should be forward thinking about profiting from that.
Alex Kociuba
5 Posted 08/07/2019 at 07:52:58
Alan, I hope and fear that Deulofeu will have a great season and big clubs will be sniffing about this time next year.
Si Smith
6 Posted 08/07/2019 at 08:19:26
Lookman is easily good enough to play a lot of game time with us, but for whatever reason he doesn't.

Imo he should be playing, but if hes in for a similar season to the last one he should be moved on and replaced with the funds.

Jim Bennings
7 Posted 08/07/2019 at 08:34:40
I don’t see Lookman playing more than a bit part role as per usual.

He doesn’t possess the application or discipline to be a regular starter and he’s played a fiat few minutes from the bench and this far he’s scored one league goal way back in January 2017, it’s a bit daft pinning our hopes on someone with a very limited record to date.

I suggest a permanent move away is on the horizon if not this summer certainly by January or next summer it will happen.

Deulofeu for me was a far more skilful
footballer anyway, application was poor but his ability was far more productive than Lookman who so far, a bit like Bolasie, has one trick of trying to beat a man only to run into him.

Anything in the region of £20 million I’d deem as pretty decent business.

Kevin O'Regan
8 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:19:55
I'm wondering if we have a mindset that those players who are on big wages and cost a fortune need to be playing, and that we can 'afford' to let those who have come from the youth ranks or cost much less on the sidelines ? ie. that such decisions often have little to do with performances. Or do we need to see immediate results from our players and don't give them the opportunities to develop and make mistakes? Just wondering out loud.
Trevor Peers
9 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:22:11
Lookman's body language always seems to suggest he wants a move, he never looks happy and seems to be determined to move on.

He should of been sold last season and a replacement found with the near £20 million that we would receive, keeping unhappy players is bad business practise.

Jim Bennings
10 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:26:33
Kevin

Those on big wages I’m assuming you mean, Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Gana, Bernard ect

There’s no way on gods green earth that you would put the likes of Lookman, Dowell, Davies in the team ahead of those players.

The only one I would dispute is Walcott, but this maligned player scored the same number of league goals last season as DCL who we are told is gonna be the next great thing.

Without Sigurdsson and Richarlisons goals last season we’d have been pathetic as an attacking force.

Lookman has had chances but he doesn’t look like he’s really committed to being here, his body language suggests as much.

Unless we are bringing through sublime young specimens like Alexander-Arnold, Joe Gomez across the park, or when we nurtured Rooney, then we can’t all just imagine every present day 18 year old is majestic just because they are 18.

Sam Hoare
11 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:31:07
Despite rarely getting a run of games Lookman was one of our most creative players from open play statistically last season per minute on the pitch. I've never doubted his talent and I don't think Silva has either but clearly something else is lacking. I remember Silva saying that he would be dynamite in training one day and then levels would drop the next.

Either he gets more time and the chance to improve and consolidate his talent on the pitch or we sell him. Zero point in him running his contract down whilst not getting any better sitting on the bench.

I'd love to see him stay at Everton and get a run of starts but I expect us to bring in another winger this season which may put him even further down the line.

Kevin Prytherch
12 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:33:51
Jim - I think we have seen it many times...

Playing Martina when we had Kenny.
Playing Bolasie when we had Lookman
Playing Walcott when we had Lookman
Playing Tosun when we had Calvert-Lewin
Playing Schneiderlin when we had Davies
Playing Williams when we could have paid someone in the crowd a fiver!!!

It’s always more difficult to justify playing a young player ahead of someone who has so called experience or who has been signed for decent money.

Tommy Carter
13 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:36:37
If they are offering a decent fee then goodbye and good luck.

He may have the potential to be a very good player but for a variety of reasons this has not been seen at all in an Everton shirt.

Chris Gould
14 Posted 08/07/2019 at 09:40:24
Bernard and Richarlison work their arses off. Lookman really should be putting in a similar amount of effort when he gets on, but he doesn't come close.

If he can't or won't put in the hard yards for us, then he should leave.
Silva clearly wanted the kid to succeed. He spoke very highly of him and refused to sell him. Lookman should have felt 10 feet tall and played with energy and intensity.

Instead, we've heard Silva criticise his consistency in training. Silva clearly stated that those working hard in training will get the opportunities, and yet Lookman can't seem to rise to this challenge.

He was also omitted from the U21 squad for this summer's Euros. That really should be a huge kick up his arse.

Len Hawkins
15 Posted 08/07/2019 at 10:24:38
Perhaps Lookman has that Lukaku trait of DREAMING and is dreaming about sauerkraut currywurst pommes frites and schweineschnitzel mitt gemuse.

Jim I think we are all now recognising the fact that Calvert-Lewin might not be one of your favourite players.

Tony Everan
16 Posted 08/07/2019 at 10:30:05
At the moment Lookman has to dislodge Bernard to get a starting position. The big problem for him is that Bernard has refined his game for the Premier League and has got better as last season went on.

Silva has been demanding that Bernard is rampant in his defensive duties when we have lost the ball. With regards that Bernard is well ahead of Lookman.

Offensively Bernard can knit play together well, but I think Lookman is a bit more direct and has more of a goal scoring mindset. Those wide forwards have to bring both the defensive and offensive attributes to the table or the midfield gets exposed. It has become increasingly important in recent years with the popular 4-3-3 formation.

Fot that reason Bernard is always first choice ahead of Lookman. Unless he can improve his positional discipline and defensive tenacity I think he wont be starting Premier League matches for us.

I wonder whether it is worth doing a Barca style buyback deal with Leipzig or whoever, just to see how he develops with a good run in a team.

Derek Thomas
17 Posted 08/07/2019 at 10:45:43
If Leipzig, or anybody, offer a proper fee then sell a.s.a.p. before they change their mind...with the usual buy back and sell on fee clauses.
Eric Myles
18 Posted 08/07/2019 at 11:18:43
Sam #11 makes a good point.

While we may like to see DCL come good with us, how long does he have left on his contract? And is he going to come good and be happy to stay with us in that time?

If only 2 years left it's time to sell while he may have some value.

Andrew Ellams
19 Posted 08/07/2019 at 12:41:00
Lookman has been pushed to one side by 3 managers now (not including Unsworth) and there must be some sort of reason for that. He's not as good as what's ahead of him at the club and I don't think he'd be that tough to replace so if Leipzig offer a good deal for Everton then I wouldn't be too gutted.
James Ebden
20 Posted 08/07/2019 at 13:14:05
get rid. the lad isn't prepared to work hard. has a bit of talent, but nothing more than those above him. Always has a face like thunder on him, which will never endear him to fans.

He's not been played by successive managers, and been dropped by the England set up. That should tell all those who claim he is the Messiah everything you need to know. Those who deal with him regulalry and closest, don't think he is worthy of a spot.

In all the appearances he has made, yes, he might make the odd run to get people excited, but how many times has those runs ACTUALLY resulted in a chance or goal? Very few. Flatters to deceive, and never tracks back.

Any offer £20m+, bite their hand off.

Si Smith
21 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:04:43
For those of you who keep saying Lookman isn't good enough to take the place of Richalison or Bernard, I will firstly agree, but then I'd ask you a question in return.

Is Lookman less disciplined on a pitch defensively than Walcott?

Does he have less impact in his short minutes to Walcott?

Why cant ge be given some of Walcott's minutes, some of the minutes in wide areas when Richalison is uptop, some of Siggardsons minutes late on in a game when comfortable, some of Gana's or Gomes minutes late on (with Sigurdsson dropping deeper) when the games either won or gone.

Also, is Lookman less effective than say Demari Gray of Leicester?
Didn't look it for England U23s when he was playing.

Did Lookman look disinterested when Red Bull was giving him a fair crack?

Don't some of you think a player with Lookmans ability deserves a 5 game run atleast to show his true worth and to gain the hunger of being a part of the team.

Doesn't nobody remember any dry or bad spells last season for all our attacking players, times were Richalison was dropped, Bernard wasnt being played, Calvert-Lewin wasnt scoring, or Sigurdsson wasnt effective?

Didnt Lookman deserve a few game outing back then?

If every kid needs to perform every minute hes on a pitch (99% of time as a sub) to brake into the side then believe me no one will ever brake through.

Lookman is easily good enough to get minutes at us, hes shown glimpses, and hes shown in Germany that he's got bags of ability when trusted.

If he was given ago on our right, infront of Coleman who is very vocal and will demand support from him, then he will do well.

I understand other managers haven't played him, but of them other managers, two of them were Koeman and Allardyce, both clueless, and both had players they had bought to start over him. Koeman played Bolasie after paying stupid money for him, he has never had Lookman's ability in all his years as a pro, and Walcott was Sam's man, he is typical Sam, older proven player in our league, hes never going to play Lookman over him.

Red Bulls manager found him good enough to play as a loan player, then put his money were his mouth was and bid £25m for him, doesn't that say something?

I have eyes, I've seen a lad who excites most of the crowd at Goodison when he's on the ball, he just needs to be given a run, he's like a kid who is eager to impress when playing so often does too much, imo if he was told he was in for 5 games minimum then he would relax more and the goals and assists would follow.

Typical TW here me thinks, let's moan about a creative player because he can't defend!

Justin Doone
22 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:18:29
Play him or loan him. Do not sell, do not annoy, just let him play football. He's such a talent, last season was a waste for him.
Tommy Carter
23 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:22:23
@22 Justin.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Sell him now rather than waste money on paying his wages until losing him on a free transfer. For his sake and ours.

Too many players on our books in the hope that thy may one day become good. 3 seasons he’s been here and there’s been absolutely no progress. Regardless of the reason, the progress is zilch. So off he goes.

Before you know it you have a squad full of players like Luke Garbutt and Matthew Pennington

Chris Gould
24 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:27:52
Si, Silva has stated on a number of occasions that he will reward those that put the effort in during training. Obviously Walcott puts more effort in.

Silva has thrown down the gauntlet to the lad publicly, and no doubt also privately, and the kid will not or cannot rise to the challenge.

Lookman only has himself to blame for the lack of game time. He was told what he needed to do, he was praised to the heavens, and he hasn't responded.

This isn't typical Toffeeweb moaning. This is 3 managers not playing him, and Lookman not showing the application required.

James Stewart
25 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:28:39
Lookman is another one who doesn't really have a best position. It most certainly isn't on the wing. right-back played him off the front man quite centrally to good effect but we have Sigurdsson there so I don't see where he fits in.
Kieran Kinsella
26 Posted 08/07/2019 at 14:58:00
Si

The thing with Walcott is that he has proven himself over the last 12 years. Yes, he isn't good defensively, and he has quiet spells. But, he also has a steady history of scoring/creating chances year in and out. So on one hand Silva, has him and on the other he has Lookman who barring a solitary goal 3 years ago hasn't ever shown much for Everton. So if you're taking a leap of faith and hoping one makes an impact which one would you chose?

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

27 Posted 08/07/2019 at 15:06:05
Si @ 21, I have to agree with Chris @ 24. This is NOT 'typical TW moaning about a creative player because he can't defend'.

There are plenty - and I number myself amongst them - who, like you also have eyes and see (potentially) there is a very good player in Lookman.

You ask a number of specific questions:

"Is Lookman less disciplined on a pitch defensively than Walcott?" Yes! He is! Walcott, Bernard and Richarlison ALL track back and do sterling work defensively. Like it or not, it has become a requirement of modern day football, that 'creative' players also have to contribute defensively.

"Does he have less impact in his short minutes to Walcott?" [and] "Why can't he be given some of Walcott's minutes?"

I sided with a good many on TW bemused at Silva's continued playing of Walcott. That said, Silva DID drop Walcott for Lookman in the New Year...and Lookman failed to impress.

For all the trumpeting of Lookman, his career record at Everton in 3 seasons (admittedly one of those a half season loan at Leipzig where he scored 5 and assisted 4, showing the POTENTIAL he has) reads 36 PL appearances, 1 goal (on his debut v City) and two assists. To that you can add 2 goals in 3 Europa League games and 1 goal in 2 FA Cup ties. That equals 4 goals and two assists in his 48 appearances for Everton.

Prolific he aint!

"Doesn't nobody remember any dry or bad spells last season for all our attacking players?" Yes - and unfortunately, right in the middle of that barren spell when he could have expected a chance, Lookman was out for half a dozen games with an ankle injury.

In assessing Lookman Si, use your ears as well as your eyes. Both Silva and Brand throughout last season talked him up as part of the future at Everton. But also - uncharacteristically of Silva to date - the manager publicly rebuked him for looking a world beater in training one day, moving the manager to think "now is the time", only for him to be poor - again! - in training the next day.

I was, and remain, a huge fan of Deulofeu. He is a similar player to Lookman. Deulofeu could also be a peripheral player on the park. But he consistently delivered more goals and assists - and excitment! - in his appearances than Lookman has done to date.

For me, it is very much down to the player to make a case for himself by training hard, being professional, playing to instructions and making himself undroppable with telling contributions when given the chance to play.

Does that count as a 'typical TW moan against creative players who don't defend?'

Dave Abrahams
28 Posted 08/07/2019 at 15:06:12
Tommy (23), Tommy please don’t put Garbutt in the same bracket asMathew Pennington, I’m not saying Mathew is a great player, no,but he wants to play football, he’s put the effort in wherever and whoever he has played for, Garbutt had more talent but once he got a brilliant contract off Everton his career stalled, the lad is most probably set for life on that contract,£30,000 per week or more and that was about four years ago, he has been content to take the money and sit back, he will go on loan again this season and then we will be free of him, one of them was an honest player who put the graft in, the other seemed, to me, to be a shirker, looked to have a lot of talent but never worked at it.
Sam Hoare
29 Posted 08/07/2019 at 15:36:24
Some more rumours today linking us with Malcom. If we were able to sell Lookman for £20m and buy Malcom for £30m then I think that would be some excellent business. Link

I believe Lookman could be a really good player but I just can't see it happening at Everton sadly. He doesn't quite fit with Silva's system and doesn't seem to care enough to try and adapt.

Si Smith
30 Posted 08/07/2019 at 17:02:34
Thanks for the comments lads (R.E my comments @21).

I agree with some comments, but still have my opinions.

Jay I don't feel 4 starts in mid season is enough to prove yourself as a young footballer, especially when it's in a team that's having its worst run of the season, does that mean hes supposed to be our saviour?

We beat Bournemouth at home along with Lincoln, and to my recollection Lookman played well. We lost away to Southampton, he lasted the full 90, and started the following game in which we lost to Millwall, and again to my recollection he wasnt the worst player on display then either.

I do get what people are saying in regards to Silva publically calling him out, but if Red Bull can get the best out of him, then why not us ?

Maybe he does have a bit of an attitude, but if we want a team full of perfect pros with unbelievable attitudes then we will be stuck with 5 Phil Nevilles and 5 Stevie Naysmiths, let's see what we get out of that side.

These young millionaires need special attention at times, I just cant quite ponder why Ralph Rangick can get a good response in a far away land, with a load of lads who don't speak Lookmans lingo, but Silva cant quite manage to fit him into a team who struggle to maintain a slot in the prem above Watford or Wolves.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd bet in 2 or 3 seasons Lookman will be at a bigger more successful club than Everton, just like Barkley, Stones and Lukaku are.

Sorry if I'm offending my fellow blues but I genuinely believe the kid has something, and players like Walcott and Bolasie have had there careers to prove they are simply not at the level we aspire to get too.

Kieran @26.

Again I appreciate your feedback mate, but for me being a bit part player for a top 4 side all your career doesn't mean you should start for us, imo Lookman would get more game time at many clubs in the prem over Walcott, especially with the Walcott I've been watching all season.

I don't want my comments to look like a witch hunt against Theo, but imo he needs to move on as he doesn't have the fire in his belly to drive us on, young lads with talent take teams like us to the next level, just look at Spurs for example.

I'd also bet Leicester will kick on this season using young players like Ndidi, Madderson, Gray, and Tielemans.

I genuinely believe there has to be a transaction of youth into our squad, we have talented youngsters who need to be pushed in order to move us on as a team.

Liverpool couldn't afford Van Dyke if they didnt have the breakthroughs of the likes of Arnold and Gomes, there money would have had to have been spent elsewhere.

Spurs wouldn't be what they are now without getting Kane and Ali through, followed by Winks and a couple of others, its them players that allow you to brake your transfer record and bring in massive players who take you up a level.

Again lads, just my opinion, thanks for your comments.

David Pearl
31 Posted 08/07/2019 at 17:16:35
Sam 29, good point there. Vlassic out Gomes in. Maybe that will be the case here? That's an upgrade for sure... as long we can protect ourselves with buy back clause if possible. Brands job is to improve the squad whilst not adding numbers. He seems to be doing that. However the season is fast approaching.
Pat Kelly
32 Posted 08/07/2019 at 18:37:41
Bite their hand off for any decent offer. And get someone who can locate the net and put the ball in it, preferably at the opposition's end. Time is ticking on.
Brian Wilkinson
33 Posted 08/07/2019 at 19:33:07
For a moment there I thought it said 22.5 Million.

No brainier hurry up before they change their minds, use the money to bring Malcolm in.

If Gaye is content on filling his dream at psg then Delph is a must.

Hope we do not go a further window, without bringing in a striker who can find the back of the net regular.

Rob Marsh
34 Posted 08/07/2019 at 23:25:55
He does appear to have head problems and so selling him would be good, but I'd want another £3-5m for a young talent like him.

Or loan him out again and if he impresses his price is sure to go up.

Si Smith
35 Posted 08/07/2019 at 23:51:20
Does everyone forget that Danny Ings went for £20m, Solake went for £20m, Mings just gone for £20m, Ibe went for £18m, we bought Walcott for £20m, this is how pricing works for English players.

We should not be looking to sell Lookman unless we get stupid money, and for an English player £22m is not stupid money.

Rob Marsh
36 Posted 08/07/2019 at 23:58:13
Si,

If we give him a run in the 1st team and he doesn't improve, he's had 48 games and 4 managers now? Then his price goes down.

If we sell him, we get what we get and will have doubled our money or more.

Or we could send him on loan to the Bundesliga (a lesser league) and let him impress again to up his price. Still a risk?

I'm inclined to sell for a little more if we can squeeze it.

Fran Mitchell
37 Posted 09/07/2019 at 00:07:28
Villa just spent £26 million on signing Tyrone Mings.

Think about that for a little. Let it sink in and then think whether we should sell Lookman for 20.

I think the lad has potential. In this climate, all he needs is a decent run of form and he's worth £50 million.

I think the lad could play ouy wide, in the middle and even as a central 'false9'. Most of his ganes for us are as a sub for 10 minutes, he hasn't had a chance.

I sense he will go, and I feel we will regret it. Similar with Vlasic.

And yet Walcott still appears to have a future with us.

Karl Masters
38 Posted 08/07/2019 at 00:13:05
A fellow Evertonian friend of mine works with one of Ademola's relatives in London.

For what it's worth, he says the lad is desperate to play. He's not worried about the money, but he's getting very frustrated at not getting a chance to prove himself. I think he only played 12 hours of first-team football last season and virtually no reserve football. We are wasting him, to be honest.

Personally, I think he's clearly got what it takes. Leipzig clearly think so too and I'd be wary about selling him without a buy-back clause. Leon Osman needed a few loans before he broke into our first team and I see Lookman as similar. A year-long loan, but tell him he's definitely coming back and get him to sign an extended contract.

Neil Wood
39 Posted 09/07/2019 at 01:40:12
I was a massive Deulofeu fan and think we were stupid to get rid of him I think this season especially will prove me right.

I also think we would be mad to allow Lookman to leave both in a football sense and a financial sense.

This lad is remarkable and he needs a chance to play football. He is young, he will make mistakes but given a proper run he will prove to be better than most of the names banded about in this ''click bait'' transfer window.

I think it will be such a massive mistake if we let him go... He's got the potential to be world class in my opinion.

Si Smith
40 Posted 09/07/2019 at 09:42:21
At last a few blues who don't see things too much differently than myself, here's me thinking I'm losing the plot !

Tommy Carter
41 Posted 09/07/2019 at 09:54:09
Some of the comments about Lookman are simply absurd.

He’s not fit to lace the boots of Leon Osman. Osman was beset busy terrible injury problems, this held him back. His sight physique and small frame also held him back. He was a really clever footballer and deservedly respresented England in a full international.

A few games for Lookman and apparently he’s a £50m player. The guy is 22 soon.

He featured in 21 games last season. Only 3 were starts. I don’t recall anything he did in those 3 games to warrant first team football, nor in any of the remaining substitute appearances. He might look good on the ball, is capable of a trick and will try something that others won’t. But what does he actually bring the team? What’s his output. What does he add to a starting eleven. How does he contribute to success

The answer at the age of 21 for this lad is guesswork. Koeman, Allardyce and Silva certainly weren’t convinced

Danny Broderick
42 Posted 09/07/2019 at 11:12:24
Lookman is in the same boat as Davies, JJK, Virginia and possibly DCL for me. They all have talent, but I think they all need a season out on loan somewhere to know if they have what it takes to step up to our first team. Because currently, these players won’t take us into the top 6. I’d love it if a few of them could step up, but they need to bridge the gap, and the only way they can do this is by getting first team football somewhere.

I must say, I think Lookman has been overhyped at Everton. That goal that he slotted against City on his debut elevated his status. I have not seen too much since that suggests he can make the step up.

Frank Sheppard
43 Posted 09/07/2019 at 17:57:26
We need to give him a run in the team, he may well turn out to be a remarkable talent for us but he can’t prove it on the bench. get him in the team.
Kevin Dyer
44 Posted 10/07/2019 at 15:02:49
Si #21 great points, couldn't put it better myself.

People talking about buy-backs: why on earth would Leipzig agree to this? They're almost unheard of. It's only Barca who seem to bother with them. Also, sell-ons almost as daft. It's lower league teams that include these, as they're not in a position financially when a richer team comes calling and have to accept less than optimal fees for their players with potential. A sell-on clause gives them hope for additional money down the road.

It'd be weird for Everton to go around asking for these clauses.

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