The 28-year-old has battled a succession of injuries over the past few years but regained full fitness a few months ago after overcoming a double leg break.
He had dropped down the pecking order at Goodison Park in the interim and made just one Premier League appearance last season so it would appear that his best chance of playing regular first-team football and reviving his international career would be elsewhere.
Palace had been linked with a move for McCarthy on and off this summer but if this claim from Sky's Michael Bridge holds any water, it looks as though they are ready to try and strike a deal.
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1 Posted 19/07/2019 at 22:50:52
2 Posted 19/07/2019 at 22:53:34
3 Posted 19/07/2019 at 22:58:06
4 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:04:57
Integrate a few of the youngsters Broadhead, Gibson and maybe Feeney. We still need a striker and a left footed winger/goalscorer, and it looks like a Centre Back too now with Chelsea's stance on Zouma. I think a decision on Right Back is needed before long.
5 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:07:04
6 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:15:00
7 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:16:40
8 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:21:04
9 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:27:07
10 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:34:07
11 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:34:24
12 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:37:19
13 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:45:29
14 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:48:42
15 Posted 19/07/2019 at 23:58:17
16 Posted 19/07/2019 at 00:01:59
Good luck to him, but we need better talent than this guy.
17 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:09:27
£8m for a fit and firing and McCarthy is a bargain and at least half of what hes worth. We know how good he can be. Of course if he gets injured its the opposite. Hard call but he deserves a chance to play.
Getting some money in though by the looks of it. Lets hope we use it wisely.
18 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:18:54
19 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:21:42
20 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:36:57
Also, I know you have a soft spot for him, so I'll let the Trump remark slide - that was cold, man. Ouch.
21 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:53:56
22 Posted 20/07/2019 at 01:07:03
Wet his knickers at Man Utd and hasn't shown anywhere near £80m form. He's no Ronaldo, Neymar or Bale, not in that class!
23 Posted 20/07/2019 at 01:18:41
Bill #6, I don't know about Gerry's tastes in jokes, but I got a chuckle out of your comment. And there's no way you-know-who could ever say anything amusing, so try not to take the insult personally.
My opinion on McCarthy is that he's a fine player who not only suffered a terrible leg break but has had six -- count 'em, six -- hamstring injuries. That's not bad luck, that's an incurable disease. If I were Silva and Brands I'd have to shake his hand and accept Palace's offer.
24 Posted 20/07/2019 at 01:39:39
25 Posted 20/07/2019 at 01:45:35
Gerry @14 and Mike @23, you're both esteemed contributors to this website, please leave this exchange of comments here and don't let this develop into some sort of tit-for-tat exchange. COYB.
26 Posted 20/07/2019 at 01:59:01
27 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:03:59
Mike G. You do know you lot voted him in don't you! It's not our fault... Did you find yourself a cheap flight?
28 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:14:56
Unfortunately I'm gonna miss the post-Watford party... bit laid up at the moment. But I will definitely make it over there for a Guinness at some point this season.
29 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:20:10
30 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:35:10
Also will be good to get Money in and save some salary for other player or better Club Finance.
31 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:38:36
In the meantime, hope all you other US Blues are enjoying tonight's International Champions Cup game. Dortmund is taking the RS apart, and we're being treated to many TV shots of the US-RS fan base sitting with their thumbs in their mouths.
32 Posted 20/07/2019 at 02:43:17
That being said, I get your point Gerry but to me its like Norman Whiteside. Good player yes. But injury after injury at some point the writing is on the wall. On a human level, Id love McCarthy to have an injury free five years but logically I cant see it happening. So if Palace want to roll the dice, give him a nice pay day then so be it.
33 Posted 20/07/2019 at 03:09:18
Best president you've ever had!
He shoots from hip with a Gatlin gun, what more could you want?
If I was an Americano I'd be more offended if the 43rd G W Bush was mentioned, he wasn't capable of finding his own arse with both hands!
34 Posted 20/07/2019 at 03:39:18
35 Posted 20/07/2019 at 07:22:08
36 Posted 20/07/2019 at 07:22:08
37 Posted 20/07/2019 at 07:30:45
38 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:16:03
Fair does Schneiderlin put in a few decent performances last season, more disciplined than Davies, but he was probably playing for a move.
39 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:29:02
40 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:29:26
Top 6 is bullshit anyway. We were top six under Moyes. We need Champions League and if we are going to get there players like McCarthy need to go.
With Gana likely to leave as well we could use the money to sign Franck Kessie whilst freeing up the wage bill and reducing the bloated squad.
41 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:35:04
Posting on the stout is only allowed if youre related to the great Christy Ring, Gerry.
And while Im here, out with McCarthy at that price and 12 months left once there are replacements lined up for he and Gana.
42 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:37:13
I think Everton will let him go for £12m. and I wish him all the best and an injury free time if possible.
43 Posted 20/07/2019 at 08:59:23
44 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:02:34
45 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:10:00
Joke aside, this would be a great deal for both sides. £8m for a player whos barely kicked a ball in 3 years and has had massive regular injury worries is excellent business.
Hope he gets his career back on track there if it happens but would also be delighted hes off our books finally.
I always thought he was bang average anyway and not the level we need. Whether Gueye stays or goes, is not relevant to getting rid of McCarthy as hes not good enough.
46 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:19:58
It would be a good move for him because I cannot see him getting any game time for us.
47 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:26:54
48 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:29:40
The alternatives are get nothing this time next year, or give him another 2 year deal now, which would be Mirallasesque insanity.
49 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:47:52
50 Posted 20/07/2019 at 09:48:12
51 Posted 20/07/2019 at 10:02:18
52 Posted 20/07/2019 at 10:24:10
I wish him the best of luck in resurrecting his career. He was great at Wigan and the first season with us, then the injuries started. Personally I would have sold him 2 years ago. We'd likely have gotten double this fee, maybe more. I'm actually surprised that a team is willing to stump up cash.
53 Posted 20/07/2019 at 10:31:13
The recurring hamstring injuries have been infuriating and too many seemed to occur whilst recuperating and being selected to play by Ireland.
The money offered is still an insult though as even with his record he is still worth twice that. Barter that price up and sell him.
jimmy Mac, many thanks from me, I wish you well
54 Posted 20/07/2019 at 10:54:06
But with him going into the final year of his contract, and with him having had so many injuries over the last four seasons, then I think he's going to leave.
I just hope we don't regret it because, if the kid stays fit, then he's more than capable of doing a very good job for most teams.
55 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:28:46
Palace, first game of the season might be interesting!!!!
56 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:40:05
We have just bought Delph so that is another obstacle to McCarthy getting first-team football. The injuries have taken their toll so he is a prime candidate for selling. A decent offer has apparently been made by a club that won't be rivalling us for the top spots in the Premier League. Let him go now while we can still get a fee for him. Maybe he'll have better luck with injuries at Palace than he did with us.
57 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:46:44
58 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:47:59
59 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:55:19
60 Posted 20/07/2019 at 11:58:34
(1) 12 months left on contract
(2) nearly 29 years old
(3) seven serious injuries
(4) a perceived tendency during recovery from those injuries to prioritise playing for Ireland above getting fully fit for Everton
(5) the Gana situation being of no real relevance to this debate.
McCarthy did have one decent season for us but that was over 5 years ago. I agree with others that he isn't the worst of our surplus (I won't insult him by using the word "deadwood") players but we can't choose the order in which we sell them. I say sell but, particularly as Palace are currently cash-rich, don't accept the first offer.
61 Posted 20/07/2019 at 12:02:34
62 Posted 20/07/2019 at 14:07:44
Hopefully, mid-table sides like Newcastle, Burnley, Palace, Villa, etc will come in and push the bidding over £10m.
63 Posted 20/07/2019 at 15:06:04
64 Posted 20/07/2019 at 15:13:03
As others have stated, Silva doesn't seem to trust him to stay fit, making just one sub appearance since his comeback. I accept he would be better off moving on and probably joining his old team-mate McArthur would suit him, but we need to make sure we have enough strength in midfield if Gana leaves. I would wish James all the best for the future (but not on his – possible – debut).
65 Posted 20/07/2019 at 15:32:21
66 Posted 20/07/2019 at 17:44:06
67 Posted 20/07/2019 at 17:47:44
The first season he was on fire and showed signs of being the talisman for the team, but time waits for no one.
Lets see if this is fact or fiction, as if Gana does go, we will need some astute business doing in the next couple of weeks.
68 Posted 20/07/2019 at 17:50:56
69 Posted 20/07/2019 at 18:11:28
I was reading somewhere probably Newsnow (I know), so hope there is 'some' truth in it, that Everton are agreeable to let McCarthy go but want the selling price upped to £10M, I know with only 12 months left on the contract, it could be a dodgy ploy, OR, it maybe to prevent the £8M which allegedly, is tentatively on the table, being whittled down.
70 Posted 20/07/2019 at 18:27:33
71 Posted 20/07/2019 at 18:58:54
72 Posted 20/07/2019 at 21:35:44
If you remember back, Schneiderlin stood waiting for the ball, didn't bother his arse, and McCarthy ran back trying to retrieve the ball. The same Schneiderlin, who is on £100k per week, double what McCarthy earns, sent home from training, because of his attitude.
Which player had more pride in the jersey??
73 Posted 20/07/2019 at 21:41:56
74 Posted 20/07/2019 at 21:57:20
75 Posted 20/07/2019 at 23:54:54
The last injury was McCarthy putting his body on the line and block a shot, and ended up with a freak unintentional injury from Rondon, can hardly blame anyone for that.
The damage was done turning out for Ireland when not fully recovered.
76 Posted 20/07/2019 at 00:24:01
There is no doubt that the previous Everton medical team have serious questions to answer around Macca's injuries & rehabilitation. If I recall correctly, he wasn't being selected for Everton at that time. It's not correct to blame “turning out for Ireland” as the main reason for McCarthy's long term injury woes.
77 Posted 21/07/2019 at 01:08:52
Comparisons to Schneiderlin are pointless because it may be that both are on the ‘let them go' list but McCarthy is the one who attracting some interest at the moment.
If the lad does move on I wish him the best and hope that we sign someone who eclipses both him and Morgan Schneiderlin.
78 Posted 21/07/2019 at 02:57:43
79 Posted 21/07/2019 at 03:13:44
80 Posted 21/07/2019 at 10:50:04
81 Posted 21/07/2019 at 14:48:10
82 Posted 21/07/2019 at 15:27:43
Theres few, if any, examples of players who have that type of injury record and comeback to the mainstream.
The sensible, objective plan is to sell and accept what it is. You simply cannot expect the good performances from years ago to catch up with a team/club that has moved forward.
Also very few players who are injury prone are just unlucky, sorry I cannot buy that. A recurring issue (hamstring) has a underlying root and the player needs to be far stronger to ensure he has a career. For me McCarthy has to take a portion of the responsibility, both being firmer how fit he was when pressured to play for both club/country and recognizing he should have modified his game to reflect the limitations.
Time to move on.
83 Posted 22/07/2019 at 10:23:37
84 Posted 22/07/2019 at 11:07:51
Not long after, we had an epidemic of hammies.
85 Posted 22/07/2019 at 13:29:57
Zaha thrives on space using his pace and ball control. We need players to unlock packed defenses and score from inside the box, especially at Goodison. Away, we already have the players to do what Zaha does.
Better use of the money. But I think M and M know that.
86 Posted 22/07/2019 at 13:32:30
87 Posted 22/07/2019 at 14:09:09
88 Posted 22/07/2019 at 15:14:18
I trust our scouting department to be a little more intelligent than in previous transfer windows. Namely the 2017 windows.
For example, we massively overpaid for Gylfi. He had proved himself to be of some value for that transfer. But for less money we could have got a similar standard and type of player from the continent. (Calhanaglou is one that springs to mind).
Zaha is 26 going on 27. And will be eye watering money.
You could get Florian Thauvin for less than that. Nabil Fekir is going for a fraction of what Zaha will cost. Memphis Depay would also be achievable as would Julian Draxler Andrea Belotti and his Italian counterpart Domenico Berardi. Jonathan Ikone and Nicolas Pepe also would cost less than Zaha.
89 Posted 22/07/2019 at 15:16:04
And zaha? think many of us were confused as to why we went for Bolasie over Zaha in the first place. F3ckog Walsh. 2 million contract.
90 Posted 22/07/2019 at 15:46:19
For me Zaha is not a player who would suit us in style or application. Not worth the money being quoted and if he was the he would have been moved on already.
Offer them Jimmy Mac & Bolaise plus a team dinner at the local Thai buffet
91 Posted 22/07/2019 at 16:37:44
His hammy's started really giving him problems his second season. As a result, and in fact, he was held back from playing for Ireland 2-3 games anyway. Remember Keane complaining about it? So, it's hardly McCarthy and Ireland's fault.
The problem, without a doubt, was Roberto pushing him back onto the pitch against Wolfsburg when he wasn't completely healed and there he is walking off the pitch after a few minutes holding his hamstring. Been a running problem since and that happened almost 5 years ago.
That's also when we saw the mass departure of Moyes' old fitness crew mentioned above. Right after that game.
My own feeling remains that James was playing regularly in the pro game since he was 16 and by 24 he had a ton of miles on his legs. And when your game at its best isn't much, you better be doing something to justify getting your number called. James did so, to his credit, by running everywhere all the time on the pitch with the injury pile-up associated with playing that way.
And seemingly ALWAYS answering yes when asked if he could go out there; Club or country. He should have been looked out for a little bit by managers and head coaches.
Blame who you like or spread it around. Take sides. Whatever. But I think we should acknowledge what started his not getting proper time to heal. It was the Roberto, not Ireland's coaching staff.
92 Posted 22/07/2019 at 16:40:27
"I don't think we should be buying players from teams below us."
Certainly not. Pickford, Gueye, Richarlison, Siggy, Keane... who needs 'em?
We're obviously better off with the players we have bought from the Champions League clubs above us -- Walcott and Schneiderlin.
You might want to rethink that particular opinion.
93 Posted 22/07/2019 at 16:57:11
I have stated on here often enough, that is my opinion, not based on fact, stats or anything else. We are no further forward than before. Also if you bothered to pay attention, as you are now, you will have seen my opinion of the latter two as well. Also before we go
Now that also comes across as all negative and I will be forever happy to be proved wrong. The arse -end of last season has given us all hope.
Mike, I will be back, I have to dash, sorry
94 Posted 22/07/2019 at 18:02:56
Siggy we were robbed plain and simple. Richi we got a bargain fair do's.
Gueye, wasn't that the player who was always on his arse during a game.
As for the other two, they are still growing into the team. My opinion stands. Do not buy from relegated or struggling teams
95 Posted 22/07/2019 at 18:27:35
96 Posted 22/07/2019 at 18:59:07
Of course you're entitled to your opinion. And I to mine. And in my opinion, whether a player's previous club finished above us or below us in the table has absolutely zero predictive value regarding how well he will play for us. Recent history certainly does seem to support my opinion.
I also dispute your opinion of Gueye. Vehemently.
Duncan, I didn't twist anything. I directly quoted James. He said "teams below us". And I also strongly disagree with your description of Picks and Siggy. If the joint second-leading scorer among Prem midfielders (behind only Hazard, tied with Pogba) is "under par", I'd be interested in your definition of "par".
97 Posted 22/07/2019 at 19:07:34
& Mike #28, sounds like what you need is a democracy?
98 Posted 22/07/2019 at 19:13:43
99 Posted 22/07/2019 at 19:16:30
100 Posted 22/07/2019 at 20:15:15
101 Posted 22/07/2019 at 20:44:25
102 Posted 22/07/2019 at 20:46:10
103 Posted 22/07/2019 at 20:57:08
Do you put any timescale on this argument? If so what is it? How many years inflation means we overpaid?
104 Posted 22/07/2019 at 21:01:39
105 Posted 22/07/2019 at 21:08:50
The problem with buys like Siggy, Keane and Klaassen and others around that time is that the competition for their signatures was non existent. There were no other teams who were willing to shell out that kind of cash on these players. That because most clubs with the ability to afford them deemed them not good enough for the outlay.
Zaha falls into this category for me. If Arsenal or any other club for that matter are unwilling to go above a reasonable price then Id rather we pulled out of the deal.
In years gone by, signings that fall into this category have often been our worst. Bilyaletdinov and Niasse also arrived with nobody willing to offer the kind of cash we were.
Im all for taking a punt at a reasonable price. If we are spending the big bucks, I want it to be to bring in a player coveted by others.
106 Posted 22/07/2019 at 22:05:09
107 Posted 22/07/2019 at 22:10:08
108 Posted 22/07/2019 at 22:51:35
Can't complain about £8M for a player who can't play and then happily sanction the sale of Lookman and Vlasic for only twice the price.
109 Posted 22/07/2019 at 00:00:26
Why draw such an arbitrary line, which rather presumes that if a player plays for a low ranking team, that they can't be good enough for higher-ranked teams?
Besides Everton's own history in picking up absolute gems - legends! - from lower-ranked teams down the years, not even the elite clubs in the PL turn up their noses at such players. City took Delph from Villa, Stones from Everton, Mahrez from Leicester. Mane, Wijnaldum, Robertson, Van Dijk and Shaquiri make up half a Liverpool team. United has just signed Wan-Bissoka and James (from a Championship club). Spurs have signed Trippier, Wanyoma and Sissoko in recent years. All from bottom crawlers or relegated teams.
I agree, you need to be selective in who you buy. But a blanket policy of not buying ANY player from such teams denies you the opportunity to pick up some very good top quality bargains.
Why diminish the pond in which you can fish in the arbitrary way you propose?
110 Posted 23/07/2019 at 00:27:07
But regarding Sigurdsson on the pitch, I think he's very, very good. My 3rd choice for PotS last season behind Gueye and Digne. If you don't think he's good, that's fine. Weird, but fine.
111 Posted 23/07/2019 at 00:41:54
Or just perhaps would it be better to judge the merits of the individual player rather than worry about where their club finished in the league?
And if you go shopping at the clubs above you, you usually only end up with fringe player (often referred to on here as "cast-offs") so we can't really win either way can we?
Unless we just do all of our shopping at Barcelona, which I'm actually quite ok with!
112 Posted 23/07/2019 at 00:58:33
113 Posted 23/07/2019 at 07:03:02
Somebody has to go and while we can say no, it is, for us in this position, a buyers market.
114 Posted 23/07/2019 at 12:41:38
Player recruitment is always difficult and in the past few years we have had no plan. We just seem to have made it policy rather exception lately to sign players from relegated clubs. Amongst names how about Kone, Robles, Alcaraz, pure shite and a waste of money. In business, if you employ someone from a bankrupt company, surely you have a good look at their role, maybe that analogy does not transfer?!
Finally from me -Mike #96 on Gana Gueye -I think this man has been one of the exceptions that most definitely disproves my gut instinct. I vaguely recall a to and fro-ing on here about Gana's
ability to stay on his feet during a game. No way was I backing that opinion, just adding it to the mix.
115 Posted 23/07/2019 at 13:02:20
116 Posted 23/07/2019 at 13:02:43
Yeh I remember Gueye getting savaged regularly as being something of a liability and, as you say, being unable to stay on his feet.
Can't remember who his main critic was though.
117 Posted 23/07/2019 at 13:03:31
118 Posted 23/07/2019 at 13:50:24
119 Posted 23/07/2019 at 14:32:10
Yes we paid a lot for him and he's one of our top earners (believe he is actually the top earner). What we paid does seem a bit high admittedly but fact is he was joint top scorer (14) at the club last year and he's not even a striker. He also got the most assists (6) than any other player. So goals and assist combined led to 20 goals last season down to him. Significantly more than Richarlison, who only got 1 assist and also scored 14 goals.
The above are facts, not opinion. People also forget he was played out of position a lot of the time in his first season due to the Rooney fiasco. So given all this, funny how some people 'don't rate him' and others think £8m for McCarthy is too little (a player who hasn't even played regularly in 3 years.)
Odd to me.
120 Posted 23/07/2019 at 17:19:03
121 Posted 23/07/2019 at 18:00:18
Same is true with footballers -- when I'm watching a player perform, the last thing I'm thinking about is the size of his paycheck or what he cost a couple of years ago.
122 Posted 23/07/2019 at 18:43:36
Either way, Silva inherited him and needs to get the best out of him or ask Brands to shift him. Personally I think 14 goals and 6 assists for a midfielder is a very decent return and as long as hes individually providing more goals than any other player then the critics should probably focus elsewhere first.
Silva seems to be getting decent returns from him so not sure what the fuss is about personally. Maybe people cant let go of the £45m price tag but Im sure any player getting those returns in this market is going to cost a ton anyway.
Id say lets worry about clearing the deadwood and bringing in a decent striker first. Sigurdsson is definitely a key asset to our squad right now imo.
123 Posted 23/07/2019 at 18:45:35
124 Posted 23/07/2019 at 18:54:43
125 Posted 23/07/2019 at 19:03:42
And that's why I'd be delighted to get £8m for him and wish him all the best.
126 Posted 24/07/2019 at 13:07:38
Some players for the club are so-called meal ticket players because they are guaranteed massive fees if they dig their heals in.
Sigurdsson was Swansea CIty's meal ticket and its the same for Zaha with Palace. You could argue Pogba is the same for Man Utd.
You are more often than not better buying for a more reasonable price cast-offs from a top 6 team rather than try and buy a lower teams crown jewel.
In today's market, Sigurdsson's fee was a snip really. As for Zaha, I think he would be worth the £70M, he would hit the ground running and easily get 10-15 goals in our team.
127 Posted 24/07/2019 at 13:13:10
Meanwhile players like Scot Olsen and Nabil Fekir are moving to clubs no better than ours for a fraction of the cost
128 Posted 24/07/2019 at 13:16:25
129 Posted 24/07/2019 at 14:23:36
130 Posted 24/07/2019 at 14:41:56
My choice as a replacement would be the 21-year-old Ibrahim Sangare from Toulouse. He might need a season to bed into the pace of the Premier League, and Delph's fitness isn't a guarantee so I'd keep Schneiderlin for another season unless we got an offer we can't refuse.
131 Posted 24/07/2019 at 14:50:23
132 Posted 24/07/2019 at 15:01:39
133 Posted 24/07/2019 at 15:10:11
134 Posted 24/07/2019 at 15:15:54
I'm with you on Sangare though, been banging that drum for months!
135 Posted 24/07/2019 at 16:46:31
136 Posted 24/07/2019 at 23:03:41
I'm gutted. £6m is peanuts. I don't know who else we could get now. Maybe Thiago from Lille, but he'd cost more and I don't rate him as highly as Sangare
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