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Howe installed as top target to replace Silva

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Everton are ready to make an approach to make Eddie Howe their new manager, according to Sunday tabloid speculation.

According to The Mirror, the Bournemouth boss has been installed as Farhad Moshiri's No 1 target to replace Marco Silva who, the report claims, will be sacked imminently even though Marcel Brands gave the Portuguese a vote of confidence of sorts in an interview on evertontv on Friday.

Silva takes his Everton into back-to-back away fixtures against the Premier League's top two sides with his future at Goodison Park in the balance and John Richardson writes that the club's hierarchy want Howe in place before the next home game with Chelsea so as to avoid the toxic atmosphere that greeted last Saturday's 2-0 defeat to Norwich.

Howe, reputedly a boyhood Everton fan, has been in charge at Bournemouth ever since he returned to Dean Court after an abortive spell at Burnley during which neither he nor his family were able to settle in the northwest.

His Cherries side made a good start to the season and beat Everton 3-1 at the Vitality Stadium but they have recorded just one win in their last nine games, exhibiting the same defensive frailties that look like they might cost Silva his job at Goodison.

Original Source: The Mirror  

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Mark Guglielmo
1 Posted 30/11/2019 at 23:51:12
Daily Mirror, move on.

"But they have recorded just one win in their last nine games" - hang on, back up. Sounds like just the man we'd pick for the job! haha

Eric Myles
2 Posted 30/11/2019 at 23:58:57
Who is the manager at Brighton??

They played really good football last night against the shite with, on paper, inferior players to ours.

Jason Broome
3 Posted 30/11/2019 at 00:06:11
If we are stupid enough to sign another mid-table, middle-of-the-road, punch-above-your-weight manager, then we have learnt nothing and deserve what we get.

Evertonian sentiment aside, Howe is not an improvement on Martinez, Silva or Moyes.

Here's hoping that this is just media bullshit!

Lyndon Lloyd
4 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:14:02
Eric (2): Who is the manager at Brighton??

That would be Graham Potter who signed a contract extension at Brighton this week, probably following a phone call from Everton!

Kristian Boyce
5 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:16:07
Well according to the Mail we’re putting Big Dunc in-charge the the RS’s game if the Leceister one goes southwards.
Paul Hewitt
6 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:27:33
No no no no no. Just bloody NO.
Soren Moyer
7 Posted 01/12/2019 at 01:33:19
Spurs go for Jose Mourinho, we go for Big Dunc or Eddie Howe!!! No wonder the club is in the current state.
Jim Harrison
8 Posted 01/12/2019 at 02:02:04
Soren 7

Spot on. If of course either rumour is true!!

I am not sure that either of these options is better than Silva or Moyes in the short term.

Iakovos Iasonidis
9 Posted 01/12/2019 at 02:09:19
It seems that is the calibre of managers we can attract at the moment. So sad...
Michael Williams
10 Posted 01/12/2019 at 03:45:35
Bournemouth: GF 18, GA 20

Everton: GF 13, GA 20

Alan J Thompson
11 Posted 01/12/2019 at 05:12:36
And our "target" manager has the EPL, he's won... ermm...the same as the bloke he might replace. I don't suppose there's another Board meeting planned for this week?
Dave McDowell
12 Posted 01/12/2019 at 06:48:21
Eric # the funny thing is Brighton have just given Potter a 2 year extension on his 4 year contract and his responses was to say he's surprised and its "a little strange" to get a new six-year contract because "we haven't done anything."

Good manager and humble.

Mike Gaynes
13 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:15:53
Michael #10, and I'll go ya better (worse) than that.

Bournemouth last season: 70 GA, third worst in the Prem.

Two seasons ago: 61 GA, fourth worst in the Prem.

Three seasons ago: 67 GA, fourth worst in the Prem.

Four seasons ago: 67 GA, third worst in the Prem.

The question with Howe is... Howe the feck has he kept them up for so many years when he can't learn to sort a proper defense, even with a leader like Steve Cook in the middle?

Gee, definitely the guy we need, eh?

Paul Tran
14 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:33:00
No on both fronts. It's your choice if you want to get annoyed about lazy journalists guessing who the candidates are.

Do they borrow Marco's random selection generator?

Sam Hoare
15 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:43:25
Jer Kiernan will be excited! I remain unconvinced.

Howe did a good job getting Bournemouth promoted and keeping them in the league but has struggled to progress them at all in the last two years and a half despite much higher spending on transfers and wages.

Bournemouth have some clear defensive issues and have not done well in cups. He’s also only ever done well at one club; I usually prefer coaches who have improved the fortunes of a few different clubs, ideally in different leagues.

Doesn’t seem like an exciting fit for me though if you’re the sort who demands a fluent English coach with PL experience (I am not of this belief) then he’s probably your best bet.

Jim Baker
16 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:46:54
Back page of The Sunday People, Gunners go for Arteta,
Howe top of Toffees list. Says it all really doesn't it?
Keith Gleave
17 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:03:42
Simply No
Tony Twist
18 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:21:35
Like for like replacement, isn't that just soo Everton. If true it smells of Moshiri. Not the manager for us at this time unless he brings in a world class defensive coach as his assistant.
Eddie Dunn
19 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:36:38
I we can show some quality and fight today and on Wednesday then not only will Silva more likely avoid the chop but the Club will look more tempting for whoever the Board approach.
With no preseason and a tough set of fixtures, and a team depleted by injury and low on confidence, any new manager will have his hands full.
I hope that Marco can somehow pull off a shock and buy us time to line-up the right appointment in the summer.
At present there would be no guarantee that a new face would be able to improve this group.
By this evening we will see if we need to stick or twist.
Robert Tressell
20 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:37:23
I'd be amazed (and annoyed) if true. His record is average (the new Alan Curbishley) and he's been north once with Burnley and didn't last. Might be a boyhood fan but he's got a life and family on the south coast.

More likely is the ex-Lyon coach Bruno Genesio. Plays 4-3-3, built a good young Lyon side and then went to China for a big pay day. Contract is up at the end of the year. Currently doing much, much better than Benitez in the same league.

A much safer bet is the man who replaced Howe at Burnley ~ Sean Dyche. He's a 4-4-2 man, uses foreign players very sparingly, and the football is effective but little more. Who you pick depends on how you assess the risk of relegation. Unfortunately, by end December, it might be a very real risk.

Steve Brown
21 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:37:43
Preston, Wigan, Solon, Palace, Watford and now apparently Bournemouth. Let’s carry aiming high to maintain our illustrious history of hiring winning managers.
Kim Vivian
22 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:47:28
Ray Jacques
23 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:56:05
Steve @ 20, I was going to post exactly the same until I saw yours!!!.
Why don't we get a manager who has been at a 'bigger' club and proven he can win trophies. After 25 years of failure isn't that our aim.
Jeff Armstrong
24 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:05:02
Palace = Allardyce
Trevor Peers
25 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:09:29
There has to be some realism with regard to appointing a new manager, Howe is highly regarded, he's done well with limited resources and who knows he might be the answer, he's a good communicator and seems to buy into attacking football, defensively he would need some help. He's a long shot but the choices are extremely limited. Any manager will be a gamble, he's a better bet than Silva for sure.

The point is we are not in a position to aim high because no top ranking coach would even look at Everton in there present state, what do we have to offer ? Virtually no recent European experience and a decade of failures from foreign managers who have spent literally hundreds of millions and produced nothing. I've no faith in Brands being able to recruit a decent European or South American manager they want millions to spend and the best ones are way out of Everton's reach. We just get the dross, the mercenaries.

Jason Leung
26 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:19:29
It's being reported that there's a lucrative personal deal being offered which will make Howe one of the highest-paid managers in the league.

It's gonna suck when we have to sack him at the end of next season. Useless and brainless board we have.

Trevor Peers
27 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:21:06
Jason, he should be on low wages and a 2-year contract or give Howe a wide berth.
John Graham
28 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:27:32
Howe is shite. He's okay at Bournemouth because he's not under the same pressures to get success as he would here.

Ferguson was a great player for us but someone must be demented to think he could manage us, even in the short term.

Martin Mason
29 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:31:54
Howe would be just the wrong person to take on for me. His heart wouldn't be on the move and he is in a static situation at Bournemouth when we need dynamics.
Simon Smith
30 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:34:54
Howe on earth are we expected to improve
Tony Everan
31 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:36:57
With only 1 win in 9 games and a defence as leaky as ours under Marco, Bournemouth will be sacking him soon.

How can we possibly hire him? It's got to be bollocks.

Kenny Smith
32 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:47:12
What's the point in spending millions upon millions on players then buttons on a manger?

Go and pay the money and get a winner because now more than ever we cannot afford to fall out if this league.

Trevor Peers
33 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:53:39
Kenny, which winning manager would come to Everton?

You're having a laugh. It's not the 1960s.

Robert Tressell
34 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:59:55
Bruno Genesio would come. He's the likeliest candidate. Available at end of calendar year after a good stint in China. Built a good young team at Lyon.

Maybe the rumours of Ferguson as temporary manager are about right as it'll only be for a game or two (games we're likely to lose). But Howe is just media talk. He won't come north. He tried with Burnley and it didn't work.

Derek Knox
35 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:17:13
I have nothing against Eddie Howe, and believe if push came to shove, he would be better than Moyes, Hughes, Lardiola etc, but I do feel we can, and NEED to go better, hopefully Pochettino has been sounded out.

Like many have suggested, this is small mindedness, and hopefully it is not solely in the hands of Moshiri alone. He has proved already that Fifa Manager is not his forte, and in the real thing he is even worse.

John Graham
36 Posted 01/12/2019 at 11:04:24
I would guarantee that, if we swapped Silva with Howe, Bournemouth would still be higher than us.

I know in the past fans on here have come up with their own lists of managers but there seems to be a shortage of candidates now. The problem also is the squad is down to the bare bones with the injuries so they would want lots of funds.

It's going to be a difficult time.

Brian Harrison
37 Posted 01/12/2019 at 11:43:33
No thanks.

As has been pointed out by other posters, his defensive record is amongst the worst in the Premier League in the last 4 seasons. Also, this is the man who thought it was good business to sign Solankie from Liverpool for £19 million... just remind me, how many goals has he scored?

James Stewart
38 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:20:32
No. Just no. His teams can't defend, would be just another Martinez fiasco.
Rick Tarleton
39 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:22:04
Trevor Peers is absolutely right, it's not necessarily whom we want, but who will come.

Howe has done a good job with very limited resources at Bournemouth, but that doesn't mean, he can turn the current crop of our players into top six material.

I don't know enough about young continental coaches, but I can't see another Brian Clough or Howard Kendall on the horizon.

Anthony Murphy
40 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:27:32
I'm not having it that when Moshiri has discussed a long term replacement with Brands, the name of Eddie Howe was Brands's solution. If so, I'm underwhelmed.
Andy Riley
41 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:36:30
Sean Dyche is a better option than Howe but I don’t want him either!
Kenny Smith
42 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:34:05
Trevor. Who’d of thought Benítez would have gone to Newcastle ? But he did... I’m not saying we should look at him but if you don’t ask you end up mediocrity. You only have to look at the appointments since Moyes and you could probably stick him in that bracket as well.
I’m well aware it’s not the 60s but we’ve tried up and coming young managers, managers who were great players and some who were dinosaurs but none of them have won fuck all bar an FA Cup between them. We pay £200,000 plus a week on Walcott and Schniederlin to name just 2 players who should never start. Surely that money would be better spent coaxing a top coach to our place.
Jer Kiernan
43 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:49:50
I spent last week on TW championing Eddies cause so only right I take the bat here, Just to say IF we can get Poch,Simeone etc I am happy to buy in but if it down to FSW, Moyes, Hughes or the list of hasbeens and wannabees (winning Doubles in 2 team leagues etc etc) I have heard this week then
Eddies the man for me !

@Sam 15
With some of the names being bandied about, and the fact that coaches of the ilk of Simeone etc wouldnt consider I feel is the right appointment, Have to say the fact I agree with Bill (if is the case )gives me the creeps I never thought of this angle to be honest !! aagggh

@Steve Brown maybe look at Emery's illustrious list of clubs, he has been backed financially and launched within in 1 1/2 seasons of appointment

@Ray Jacques a manager who has succeeded at a bigger club like Pellegrini maybe ?

@25/33 Trever
Tone down that logic Sir there is no place for that or any pragmatism in this discussion :) As stated last week on other threads,I will say to the detractors if it aint Eddie who it am ? Gimme names people ( and please be realistic )

@Brian 37
"Also this is the man who thought it was good business to sign Solankie from Liverpool for £19 million"-- Jesus anybody who can take a corner nowadays is worth 25mil ffs,need I list our own bunch of expensive space wasters he hasnt been shopping in the same market as the bigger clubs, could you imagine trying to attract a top foreign star to bournemouth ?

The state our club has been run into over the last 3 decades is repulsive to me but it is also very real and has meant we cannot attract Top proven managers to our club Jose would not have come here even for a chinese lge sized pay packet

Eddie has earned it the hard way for me, has had sustained success ( altough relative ) with B/Mouth in the PL ( the league in which we actually compete it must be noted) he wont cost a bomb, he wont ask for 250mill for players ( which we don't have FFP) He is one of us, It is his dream job ( you wont find him on the golf course at 4pm ) He is very good communicator ( As are all succesful coaches) He will unite the club, He is respected and liked throughout the game. He tries to play attacking football, Gets the best out of the players he works with ( how many of our lot or Aresnals for that matter are performing anywhere near their potential ?)

There is questions over his defensive abilities however if as nearly every other small club he chose to play rugby league against the bigger sides it would look better but with similar points total, his bravery in sticking to his attacking principles has to be admired ( unlike Dyche ) and will suit better players, Cant see him playing 2 DMs at home ffs !!!

Do the right thing and good things will happen, Will he win the CL probably not but if he as a coach can get say a 30% improvement in results we will be knocking on the Top 6 door thats all we can and indeed have asked for as fans of EFC in its current state

Paul Tran
44 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:58:26
Pochettino is the new Vardy on here, isn't he? We should just go and get him. And that's it. Simple. He's crying out for the Everton job, isn't he? Just like Vardy.

There's more chance of us getting 9 points this week than getting Pochettino.

Soren Moyer
45 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:04:42
Eddie Howe= Mike Walker all over again. Remember how well he was doing with Norwich before switching to everton? For me, there is no one better available right now than Marcelino as I know we can not attract any top manager with our current situation. And he IS out of work so no compensation needed.
Jer Kiernan
46 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:35:56
I feel is bit unfair to compare him to Walker for 2 reasons, Walker was at Norwich for less than 2 seasons when Everton appointed him, they were already in the Top flight when he got the job

And according to all the Everton players at the time he was a bone idle lazy, Eddie is renowed for being hard working coach and I feel will be extra motivated

If you wanted to compare him in a negative light maybe Martinezs record would be similar

Soren Moyer
47 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:41:46
Hi Jer. Either way I am not convinced he is the one to take us forward buddy. But hey, who cares what I am thinking. Right :) ?
Kevin Molloy
48 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:43:30
after the next three days, we will have moved into a death spiral, with the whole of December still to go. Howe is singularly incapable of handling that kind of pressure, if we break the bank and tear everything up to appoint him we are as good as relegated, and will deserve it for sheer stupidity.
Jer Kiernan
49 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:54:13
@Soren 47
Au contraire ;) I am happy and open to hearing any and all viable suggestions, My decision to back Eddie I am trying to take everything into account ( character, record, personality, availability etc )

@Kevin 48
I wont argue with your sentiments regards the hole we are in, However Somebody has to take on this mess ? have you anybody in mind ?

Kevin Molloy
50 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:05:50
Jer, yes Moyes or Benitez. We need managers who can handle this horror show and won't buckle. I think they are the two
Kevin Molloy
51 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:10:24
and on another point Jer, my god, he'd be effing nuts to chuck Bournemouth at the moment for us. Absolutely nuts.
Jer Kiernan
52 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:14:05
@Kevin Molloy 50

Either appointment would be very regressive for me

Benitez got Newcastle relegated ?? then nearly got them relegated a 2nd time?
Moyes similar with WHU, I wont even mention Sunderland phew!!!, If this was 2003 I would agree with you but unfortunately like players Managers become "hasbeens" too

Their ideas become outdated in an ever changing game there is a handful(maybe 5) of managers worldwide who can sustain over long period, Those 2 have proved for me they are not of this ilk

We need unity now at board/player and fan level these 2 would not bring this to the club, Anyways we will have to agree to disagree on it . I think Eddie is ambitious so would see us as a step up from B/mouth but who knows !!!!!!

Kevin Molloy
53 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:22:14
you've got to look at context. MOyes and Beitez took over those clubs when they were in dire straits. He did a fine job at West Ham just last year, and we all know he would work night and day to stop us going down. Give him his two year contract, we can always still boot him in the summer, but get him in to keep us up.
Paul Smith
54 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:27:31
Moyes left and abused us, tried getting our best players at shit prices and was a complete failure to boot. Why the fuck would anyone want him back it's bonkers.
Kevin Molloy
55 Posted 01/12/2019 at 18:40:21
er, cos he'll keep us up?
Jack Convery
56 Posted 01/12/2019 at 19:29:01
Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh -– he can't defend. The goals conceded against Spurs illustrate that — 2 long balls 2 goals.

We need a Grade A manager. When will this nightmare end.

Cristobal Aguirre
57 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:13:26
Moyes is the only option right now.
Jer Kiernan
58 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:40:48
@Kevin Molloy
Those clubs were in Dire Straits ?????? Eddie took over at b/mouth when they were in administration age 29, they had a 17points deductions and were 10 points adrift, he saved them, Following season promoted

@Jack 56
I have to admire your depth of research 2 goals against Spurs this weekend ??? ffs give me a break,

Mark Guglielmo
59 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:44:50
Paul @44 not sure what you're talking about, I have a Vardy tree in my backyard.

Soren @45 I've brought up Marcelino a few times in the past days. For managers we have a realistic chance of getting, he tops the list. Great track record, and perhaps more importantly, at a once-proud Club that was struggling at mid-table for a spell.

Jer @59 I get some of what you're saying. It does seem to me that Howe teams are fun offensively, a bit pearl-clutching defensively though. But hell, I'll give him a go. Just not over Marcelino :)

Jer Kiernan
60 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:12:12
@Mark 59
Everything is right about it (Eddie) for me to be honest, the only shame is he isn't taking our team to Mordor on Wednesday to go for the jugular with some of our younger players being let off the leash

We have had a coward of a manager in place playing sideways football in a cluesless fashion, and consistantly playing over payed wasters who are not arsed,It will be an opportunity missed if we don't appoint Eddie, Somebody is going to give this lad a chance and he will succeed mark my words

If you look at how he has brought bmouth from near Administration to the top flight and keep em there is borderine miraculous, With results like that in such advese circumstances, if this was the business world he would have been snapped up

Anyways I can but suggest

Mark Guglielmo
61 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:19:06
At the very least I admire your conviction in standing by your man.
Bill Gienapp
62 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:53:21
All due respect Kevin, but I think these days a faint breeze would be enough to make Moyes buckle. I'm not sure why people are so willing to overlook his relegation campaign with Sunderland - yeah, they were a poor side, but they also didn't show the slightest flicker of fight or self-belief while he was in charge. He couldn't have been less inspiring.

As for romanticizing his tenure with West Ham, come on - he did the bare minimum, then they chucked him almost as fast as we got rid of Allardyce.

David Currie
63 Posted 02/12/2019 at 04:27:26
Jer 60, Agree on Eddie Howe and wanted him after Big Sam. He has earned it after doing well at Bournemouth and think he would be ready for the challenge to take us forward.
Salim Rehman
64 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:22:43
Why do we always go for average managers (Martinez, Koeman, Big Sam, Silva and now Howe)? What has Howe done?

If he was that good, why didn't the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, or Tottenham go for him?? He's not being linked with Arsenal, but our board and some of the fans want him, but to me he's not done anything.

We should go for a Manager/Coach who can realistically take us forward, someone like Rafa, Marcelino, Ancelotti, or Tuchel. Are we that mid-table team that looks for an average manager? Think big, the sky's the limit.

John Keating
65 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:32:31
Personally I'd go for Unsworth until the end of the season
The only foreign manager I would look at is Diego Simeone.
He's getting stale at Athletico and maybe it's time they and him looked at a new chapter
Lenny Kingman
66 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:33:50
Has Mosh missed the bit about his family not being able to settle in the northwest? That will not have changed.

If he goes for Howe, he will be out by Christmas. Not this Christmas but, at car crash club central, you never know.

Sam Hoare
67 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:50:59
Jer, if Howe gets the job you will be the new Steve Ferns!
Jer Kiernan
68 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:55:06

"if he was that good, why didn't the likes of Man UTD, Chelsea, Tottenham go for him??"

Have you seen who manages Man U ? the guy has done nothing as a manager ? Chelsea have gambled on Lampard ( very like Eddie had a great head on his shoulders from and from an early age was a leader of men) Spurs have gone with Jose ( I am glad to see him in the game for the theatre of it but he is on a downward curve) he wont deliever I believe

The reason they didnt is because they fecked up I would suggest, regards Man U, Chelsea Eddie has a better record than either ??

So I am as confused as you but for different reasons obviously

Eddies the man. Do the right thing and good things will happen !!


The comparison is an honour

Just dont expect me to put half the effort into my posts that Steve does, or be half the Gentleman he is when under fire ;)

I am so convinced is the right thing to do I am tempted to write an article on same, Watch this space !!

Don Alexander
69 Posted 02/12/2019 at 10:25:54
If we're on the hunt for a new manager I just hope nobody at all involved in recruiting Martinez, Koeman, Unsworth, Allardyce or Silva is in the hunting party.
Marcus Taylor
70 Posted 02/12/2019 at 10:45:35
Eddie Howe has a worse Premier League record than Marco Silva - in terms of win percentage. Howe's record is 51 wins from 166 Premier League games, Silva's record is 32 wins from 94 games.

Howe: Premier League win % = 30.72 *
Silva: Premier League win % = 34.04

Howe: Premier League points per game: 1.16
Silva: Premier League points per game: 1.22

His teams also concede more goals per game on average than Silva's and score at a similarly low rate.

Howe: Premier League Goals scored per game: 1.32
Silva: Premier League Goals scored per game: 1.29

Howe: Premier League Goals conceded per game: 1.72
Silva: Premier League Goals conceded per game: 1.57

Oh, and before anybody mentions 'limited transfer funds', Bournemouth's net transfer spend over the last 5 seasons is £175,000,000 (higher than Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs). Everton's, for comparison, is £225,000,000.

If a mediocre manager is what you want, Eddie Howe is your man.

* Howe's Premier League win percentage by season:

2019-20: 28.57%
2018-19: 34.21%
2017-18: 28.9%
2016-17: 31.57%
2015-16: 28.9%


Tony McNulty
71 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:06:04
Amazing how quickly a manager's standing drops.

About a year ago, Pochettino was being touted as the next manager of Manchester United, and there were rumours he had been approached.

Of the candidates mentioned, he is probably the only one who has a record of some level of achievement in the Premier League as well as in Europe. Money talks; if Moshiri offered the right transfer budget, would he really not be tempted?

Pochettino's other huge strength is that he can build a football stadium. Sounds like a shoo-in.

Adrian Evans
72 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:15:41
At this rate, who the hell wants to come in and take charge of this lot??? Injuries, I know...

Just give them to Sgt Major Allardyce, for god's sake. Pay him £10 million, let him do his thing: keep us up.

I've said it before. Give him £250 million and a 4-year deal, thank him for keeping us up twice.

Who do we think we are? I don't wanna watch us in the Championship.

Get real, Mr Moshiri and Mr Kenwright.

Okay Mourichio, but can he keep us up? Who can keep us up??? Big Sam.

Paul Tran
73 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:23:16
Mark @59,

For the past two or three years, there have been people on here saying we should go and get Vardy. That's right, the man who turned down a pay rise and Champions League football with Arsenal. The man who would drop everything and come to Everton.

The same is happening with Pochettino. Why would he want to come to Everton and repeat what he did at Spurs with two hands behind his back rather than just one?

That's my point.

Trevor Peers
74 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:34:13
We as Evertonian's don't expect too much these days... so, if Howe can keep us in the top half of the table and play some attractive football, I think the majority of supporters would be satisfied.

You'll always get the dreamers who expect us to challenge for the title; them days are long gone. I think Howe has an eye for talent and the signing of Wilson on loan from Liverpool was a good piece of business, he has a lot more potential than anyone we have in midfield.

In fact, a lot of his team are young players with bags of potential and I think we need someone who can spot and develop real talent, that's the way forward for the Blues.

Paul Tran
75 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:40:32
Howe would be another speculative punt. Someone who might be better with better players and a bigger budget. He'd need to be, their defence is as porous as ours.

I would be as indifferent to his appointment as I was with Silva's.

Trevor Peers
76 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:50:43
Soren #45,

Arsenal are reportedly after Marcelino, so who's he going to choose? It's impossible to get any decent European manager to consider Everton, we have nothing to offer, wages alone would only bring another mercenary.

That's why Howe would be the best option, it's a gamble but not as big as Silva, he's kept Bournemouth in the Premier League for many seasons, something Marco wouldn't achieve with any club in the Premier League. I think Silva would take Liverpool down if given 2 seasons in charge.

Dave Richman
77 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:54:03
But who is available?
Who will come to us?

I will post this again:


In excess of 8,000 names on that list, all of whom are available right now.

Surely there must be SOMEONE. Surely?

Iain Latchford
78 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:59:28
It seems we never learn (if this is true). Bournemouth are poor. Their highest points score is 46 since being promoted (lowest 42). They'll get relegated eventually. Teams like them always do.

They leak goals, and are on a run of form similar to ours. They've also spent money, so don't get sucked into this "no money" myth. Yet people think Howe is the right man to rescue us from this crisis and take us forward?

It would be another massive fuck-up by the board, so I fully expect it to happen.

David Pearl
79 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:18:32
Enough with Silva and Howe and other Championship managers.

It's time we meant business and that starts with an appointment that excites the players and the fans.

Long-term, either Arteta or Pochettino. Short-term, yes, l would take Moyes just to get shut of this little boy that's trying to learn how to manage a football team while he picks up a few million.

Mike Doyle
80 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:28:28
Eddie Howe might also be holding out for something bigger.

Also, Bournemouth don't have a Director of Football position and he might not fancy operating in that environment (especially if – like many on this forum – he isn't impressed by the quality of recruitment under Brands).

Iain Latchford
81 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:32:47
Mike, what bigger job would Howe be waiting for?
Barry Lightfoot
82 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:43:23
Cristobal Aguirre,

Nice depth charge — though it hasn't gone off yet.

Mike Doyle
83 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:44:30
Iain, something he considers bigger than Everton. While we consider Everton a big job, there are many who aren't as impressed. Eddie Howe may be one of them.

Some managers may consider a job where they have the final say on player recruitment to be critical.

Iain Latchford
84 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:50:13
If he had the final say on signing Dominic Solanke for £20m, then that should automatically rule him out.
Michael Lynch
85 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:54:29
Howe is doing a very good job on limited resources at Bournemouth and he should stay there.

I think we need a big personality for this job. A Jose type appointment, not another nice guy. Sadly, I have absolutely no idea who that would be. Not Duncan Ferguson though, not even temporarily. Maybe one of his prize pigeons?

Christopher Timmins
86 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:00:25
Given his current plight on the south coast, I don't think that it's a good idea to try and appoint him. Given our plight, we need someone who will give the club a lift, steady the ship, and get us out of immediate danger.

I have always felt it was Brands's task to find the manager and for Moshiri to rubber-stamp his choice; everyone else should be mere spectators.

Jer Kiernan
87 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:05:25
Micheal @84

"Sadly, I have absolutely no idea who that would be." I admire your honesty in this; pity the rest of the nay-sayers aren't as honest with themselves or their fellow TWebbers.

It is easy to say who it ain't but not as easy to put up a viable candidate, I mean somebody has to do the job?

Speaking of which, Iain @83, who do you suggest we employ to take over from Silva?

Steve Brown
88 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:05:59
If we make this decision, we will waste another two years and be back in the same situation with millions squandered. You get what you pay for in any industry and football is the same.
Adrian Evans
89 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:15:48
Marco beats the RS and Chelsea and hes staying.
If you had £1.2 billion in the bank how big would your ego be???
Mr Moshiri picked Marco, if he hadnt he would have gone after Norwich,maybe Blades.
He don't like being told he got it wrong again, again.
Its his toy?????
He can do what the F - - - he likes,its the way it works despite it playing havoc with us 37,000.
The only thing them up top would listen to is if 10,000 turned up and that aint going to happen, "Is It".

If they aint got anybody in by Jan 1 st who is right, god help us.If Silva is still here with another 4 defeats maybe 5.

Big Sam will come.Yes Sir.
The players all get a card 1 st session.The ten commandments,goes like this.
You aint so super star this is what ya do.
No side ways pass.
You don't play with ya back to their goal,ya first option is a ball forward.
In fact every ball.
Its how he does it.

Big Sam Premier League 2020,2021 season.

Iain Latchford
90 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:22:47
Jer, we've been here before and this has been explained to you by myself and others. It just doesn't seem to go in. For record, I've already told you that I'd prefer Arteta over Howe. I've also said if that wasn't an option I'd go for a caretaker until the right candidate was available. What don't you understand about that statement?

Not having the right person ready to come in now does not automatically make Eddie Howe the best man for the job by default.

I'm trying avoid another wasted 18 months, which I firmly believe this would be. I'd rather ride out the next six, if it meant getting the right man.

Is that clear enough?

Liam Reilly
91 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:28:45
There's no point in changing to another 2nd rate Manager.

I never understood why Clubs can pay 20M + for average players but balk at paying a relatively small compensation for arguably the most important figure at the club.

Identify the best man for the job and make him an offer he can't refuse. Until then, I'd stick with Silva and hop he can turn things around.

Mark Guglielmo
92 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:32:28
Paul T @72 mate, I'm sorry. I have to assume that my internet sarcasm doesn't come across very well on the internet to an older generation! When I say I have "a Vardy tree in my backyard," I'm joking that someone like him doesn't grow on trees lol. And getting someone like him isn't as simple as plucking one off a tree (just like Poch). I was agreeing with you!

On that note... John K @65 it's good that the "only foreign manager you would look at" is Diego Simeone, lol. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Diego Simeone would not look at us. He's the highest paid manager in the world, more than Jurgen Klopp, more than Pep Guardiola, and so on. Atletico has a virtually permanent spot in the Champions League, and in their best years, challenge for the La Liga title. He's less likely than Poch.

Adrian @71 I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not, are you actually advocating for Big Sam, and for a long-term deal? We went FIVE GAMES without a single shot on goal under him. Five games. I'd rather we play in League Two because it would be more exciting watching water boil over a heat lamp.

Edit: Adrian @88 holy shite you ARE serious. "Every pass is a pass forward?!" I don't even know where to begin.

Jer Kiernan
93 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:41:38
@ Iain 89

The right man is available now is my point, You give Arteta a bournemouth in administration at his age do you think he would get them up the leagues to Prem and keep them there ? would a f*ck

If you think Eddie is a punt not worth taking but would give the job to somebody who has never managed in the Top flight or anywhere else for that matter, I don't understand the logic, its fancyful

The number of Assistants who went on to be successful managers can be counted on 1 hand ( I can only think of Jose myself), conversely the amount who failed is the length of both arms

Caretakers tend not to work either and could get us relegated, so I am really not getting your thought process on this to be honest but each to their own, it seem scattergun at best

Arteta who Pep has said would not be let go till seasons end OR the "right candidate" when available ?

Clear as mud to be honest

Iain Latchford
94 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:01:04
Jer, I'm fully aware what your opinion is. You've put it on numerous threads, and have been shot down on every one. Far more people think he is unsuitable than the opposite. You keep banging the drum though. Again, I've explained on other threads why I'd prefer Arteta over Howe.

You talk like you have a direct line to Eddie. Do you know he's available then, and would take the job? You sure he's as "viable" as you think? You seem to think Bournemouth would just release the magic man, the messiah, the man who gave them everything? They won't want to lose him, surely. What if they dig their heels in. Remember Watford/Silva?

Here's a question for you. What if we can't get Howe, what then? Who would you turn to? You should always have a plan B.

Daniel A Johnson
95 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:31:03
Everton FC would simply chew up Howe and spit him out.

We're far too big a club for him outside of his nice little Bournemouth comfort blanket he would get found out. Bournemouth are on a shocking run too lets not forget, but because its Bournemouth there is no pressure and no spotlight on his poor performance. We've seen with Silva how a bad run can escalate quickly into a crisis when put under the microscope like he is right now.

Put on a pedestal at Bournemouth and always gets praise from the top managers for playing losing football the right way in a 3-2 or 4-3 defeat.

We need a character of sterner stuff and fortitude.

I seriously doubt even if asked that Howe has the balls to accept the job.

Jer Kiernan
96 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:31:52
@Iain 93
"Far more people think he is unsuitable than the opposite." I don't agree with this but is hard to guage but for me has been same names ( maybe 5 ) who have been "shooting me down" on this, alot of TWebbers have been open to it

I am a firm believer in appointing Managers who have competed in the PL and their career is on the up, I also feel ( who doesnt ) that I am good judge of character I always listen to interviews etc ask myself would this guy inspire me ? on my gut instinct if you like

If not Eddie I would take a punt on Chris Wilder more for the gut then his record in PL which he is new to, but he makes all the right noises for me

So I fully respect Arteta and what he did with Everton and the calibre of manager he has worked with but he is not his own man, If we cant have Poch,Simeone or Howe we should go for Wilder

As you may have guest I don't feel homegrown managers get enough credit in the PL and is somehow a minus on their CV

@Daniel 95

All very emotive and more importantly conjecture, If he is not under pressure at b/muoth is because he more or less saved them from obliteration ,brought them to the promised land and kept them there, How many of the proposed candidates can say that eh ? I believe he would take the Everton job in a minute , I am sure he has had offers previous and I would go so far as to say he has been holding out for it ,but again like yourself I dont know any of this to be true

Jay Wood

97 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:33:28
Jer @ 58:

"@Jack 56 I have to admire your depth of research 2 goals against Spurs this weekend ??? ffs give me a break."

Jack's post you mock offers more in-depth research and reasons why to be wary of Howe's appointment than you have offered on why Howe would be a good fit for Everton, beyond squawking like a parrot with a single mimicked sentence: 'Eddie's the man, Eddie's the man, Eddie's the man.'

You've been given plenty of very stark data as to why Eddie is NOT the man which you have totally - but TOTALLY - failed to counter.

Man up and spell it out for the rest of us, as you offer to do @ 68: "I am so convinced [Howe] is the right thing to do I am tempted to write an article on same, Watch this space!!"

Otherwise, your repeated squawking is just that and simply neither credible nor convincing.

Paul Tran
98 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:34:12
Cheers Mark #92. I presume you were also being sarcastic regarding your reference to me and 'the older generation'?

Mark Guglielmo
99 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:38:47
I wasn't sure Paul, no offense intended! I only know that at 46, the great majority of TWers are substantially older than me. Simply based on the sheer volume of comments which reference the 1980s and earlier! My father is from an older generation as well, and he doesn't get my sarcasm half the time either.
Jer Kiernan
100 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:44:35
@Jay 97
Now Jay just cause I had the size of you pretending you didnt have a dog in the race and believing you were above such conjecture , only to pen a 3 page diatribe blowing bubbles up "JJ's" (as you call him) ass

If I get time I may endevour to put together and organize my reasoning for wanting Eddie although I have expressed same on several threads previous

"Eddies the man" is just me indulging in slogan-ism

Are you going to be man enough to admit who you want as manager or sit on the fence still ? Claiming not to have an opinion, while writing glowing 8 paragraph endoresments of Jorge Jesus whom you DONT want to be our next manager !!

Get your own house in order !! Maybe if I said "Eddie is the man" in latin it may impress the plebs on here ;)

Daniel A Johnson
101 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:45:17
I sometimes feel Howe at Bournemouth simply rolls the dice with gung ho football with the mindset that 1 win in 3 is just as good as 3 draws.

He has nothing to lose at Bournemouth with this gamble but as his goals conceded show when he gets beat its not by the odd goal. Like Martinez at Wigan he's never showed he can shore up a defence despite many years with the same squad of players.

Can Howe really come here steady the ship and get us organised and hard to beat or will it be more cavalier football with the same type of results?

Carragher on Howe after Liverpool beat them 4-0 "I like Eddie Howe his team plays good football".

Paul Tran
102 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:45:47
That's fine, Mark, I'm a youthful 55. I'm pretty good at sarcasm normally, but yours was clearly to cryptic for me!

How's the job hunting going?

Jay Wood

103 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:03:32
Jer @ 100.

Yep! Once again, as expected. Put on the spot and you revert to type: deflection and ad hominem insults, rather than addressing the topic that YOU insist on airing.

You had your knuckles rapped by the editor for your straw man arguments. You evidently aren't heeding the warning.

You repeat again that you may endeavour to put together and organize your reasoning for wanting Eddie if you 'find the time'.

You could find that time Jer by not putting up so many posts indulging in your own sloganism (your words) that "Eddies the man" (your copyrighted words) and instead doing some serious research and penning an article to convince us lessers mortals why you are lobbying so hard for Howe.

Because you have offered literally NOTHING in the way of data or reasoned logic as to why he should be given the gig. NOTHING.

And based on your posting history on both the main and live forum, I quite frankly don't believe you are capable of posting anything insightful on any subject beyond promoting your own self-acclaimed superior insight and judgement when compared to all other TWers.

Jer Kiernan
104 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:13:05
@Jay 103

Do you have any more latin to impress us with or just 1 word ?

There is no point in my indulging in your petty mudslinging, As discussed you claim not have any opinion on who our next manager should be and indeed claim is dumb line of questioning etc, so as I told you before is pointless in me even indulging

Man up and give your suggestion or your not contributing anything, Is OK to be wrong you know ?nobody would hold it against you or judge you for it, we are all here just giving our 2 cents nothing more

But if you don't wish to put forward a viable alternative to Eddie I can only assume is because he is the best candidate, So thanks for your vote ;)

btw Is this onslaught because I claimed your posts were "middling" at best :) I can take it back if i hit a nerve ,they are of course full of insightfull and intelligent insights ( and lots of stats copied from wikipedia etc etc)

Daniel A Johnson
105 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:25:03
Jay and Jer come on now this has done more rounds than Rocky now.

Time to kiss and make up?

Jer Kiernan
106 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:29:44
@ Daniel 105
Jay is throwing punches then hidding behind the ref :) Either he is in for the battle or not ??

I am shadow punching to keep your analagy, I will agree to disagree and move on, I said to him previous I would not reply to his posts on the subject until he gives a name, else I have nothing to work with

Consider the matter closed on my side

Iain Latchford
107 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:31:58
Jer, as Jay says it really would help your argument if you could provide a more in depth analysis of why Howe should be considered.

Unfortunately gut feelings, judge of character etc aren't going to cut it. I wouldn't says Howe's career is on the up. It's been pretty much the same thing from Bournemouth since they were promoted. Mid 40's and bottom half. They did finish in the top half once with 46 points, but the team that went down got 40 that year. Martinez, Big Sam/Koeman, and even Silva have out performed him.

Please don't use the small club thing. He's had 4 years to build a Premier League team and has had money to do so. I don't see anything special on the pitch. None of this qualifies him to sort this mess out, and then take us forward.

Jay Wood

108 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:38:01
As if further confirmation was necessary on your posting 'style', you've just provided it Jer.

I'm guessing you have no mirrors in your house. You've got nothing, have you Jer? Absolutely NOTHING to contribute on ANY subject, never mind on Eddie Howe, beyond indulging in infantile gainsay and petty abuse of fellow TWers.

An African grey parrot demonstrates a broader range of opinions and eloquence than you seem capable of.

Kevin Molloy
109 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:44:54
hmm what is it one win in nine, and a king's ransom to get him. I can see why the nitwit at the helm is drawn to this option, I reckon this ones got legs
Jer Kiernan
110 Posted 02/12/2019 at 16:06:12
Calm down, no need to SHOUT, It is of course you that has nothing" to contribute ?

Name your candidate or I can only assume you have nobody better in mind than "our" Eddie, Your silence (if only) on this is deafening as the saying goes

I am failing to see what your input is on this ? If your here just to antagonize me you are wasting your time, I wont indulge until you man up and provide a name who is better than Ed and viable ,else is futile

I am not aware of the African Grey Parrots level of eloquence or its range of opinions I would assume would be very much reflective of the company that Parrot keeps :)

Mark Guglielmo
111 Posted 02/12/2019 at 18:16:02
Paul @102 isn't it funny that the age gap from 15 to 24 is massive, and then from 46 to 55 really isn't? lol

Job hunt, ugh. Slow going, hasn't been easy. But thank you for asking, mate! I'm sure there is more than 1 handful of TWers who wish I'd get one quickly so I would stop posting, LOL!!

Paul Tran
112 Posted 02/12/2019 at 18:54:19
Mark, my Mum was right; the older you get, the quicker the years go by. So we have to enjoy them while we're here.

Hope you get the right job soon! It's out there waiting for you to notice.

David Pearl
113 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:16:13
Pochettino is apparently open to offers and projects put before him for a swift return to management. So let’s hope we win the derby, and Man U and Arsenal also have big wins so that we are first in. Not bloody likely..
David Pearl
114 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:18:39
Fucking redshite in the cup. obviously
Paul Tran
115 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:18:39
Fuck me, the 3rd round at Mordor!
Rob Halligan
116 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:19:37
FFS how much worse can this season get?
David Greenwood
117 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:19:54
Well that’s just shite.
John P McFarlane
118 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:20:42
David #113 Levy has astutey put a clause in Poch's severance deal stating If Poch joins another PL club during this season his new club would be liable wholly or in part of that severance pay package.
Chris Leyland
119 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:20:56
We will beat them in the cup.
Mike Doyle
120 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:21:03
So. all cup distractions should be over 1st week in Jan, leaving us free to focus on the relegation fight.
Tony Abrahams
121 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:23:16
Fuckin great draw that, why the fuck should we be worried about Liverpool? They will have been in Quatar, then back to the cold, we just need to sort ourselves out in the next couple of weeks, and make sure we get in a manager who understands that it's about time we took the cups seriously.
David Pearl
122 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:24:08
John, 118. He’s as astute as our Bill that Levy. Shouldn’t put us off anyway, if we show ambition. We’ve spent millions on sacking our managers over the last z4 years.
David Pearl
123 Posted 02/12/2019 at 19:39:25
Tony, there’s a good chance Klopp will make more changes than we will. Does it go straight to penalties after 90 mins? Maybe a new manager will give Lossl a go.
Jason Lloyd
124 Posted 02/12/2019 at 22:37:52
Howe is not what we need.

Everton needs someone with grit who will kick the players arses.

A lot will leave as a result, in their place we will find hard bastards that can both play some good stuff but get stuck in if the opposition goes route 1.

Think Moyes but modern and dynamic.

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