Everton are ready to make an approach to make Eddie Howe their new manager, according to Sunday tabloid speculation.
According to The Mirror, the Bournemouth boss has been installed as Farhad Moshiri's No 1 target to replace Marco Silva who, the report claims, will be sacked imminently even though Marcel Brands gave the Portuguese a vote of confidence of sorts in an interview on evertontv on Friday.
Silva takes his Everton into back-to-back away fixtures against the Premier League's top two sides with his future at Goodison Park in the balance and John Richardson writes that the club's hierarchy want Howe in place before the next home game with Chelsea so as to avoid the toxic atmosphere that greeted last Saturday's 2-0 defeat to Norwich.
Howe, reputedly a boyhood Everton fan, has been in charge at Bournemouth ever since he returned to Dean Court after an abortive spell at Burnley during which neither he nor his family were able to settle in the northwest.
His Cherries side made a good start to the season and beat Everton 3-1 at the Vitality Stadium but they have recorded just one win in their last nine games, exhibiting the same defensive frailties that look like they might cost Silva his job at Goodison.
Original Source: The Mirror
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1 Posted 30/11/2019 at 23:51:12
"But they have recorded just one win in their last nine games" - hang on, back up. Sounds like just the man we'd pick for the job! haha
2 Posted 30/11/2019 at 23:58:57
They played really good football last night against the shite with, on paper, inferior players to ours.
3 Posted 30/11/2019 at 00:06:11
Evertonian sentiment aside, Howe is not an improvement on Martinez, Silva or Moyes.
Here's hoping that this is just media bullshit!
4 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:14:02
That would be Graham Potter who signed a contract extension at Brighton this week, probably following a phone call from Everton!
5 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:16:07
6 Posted 01/12/2019 at 00:27:33
7 Posted 01/12/2019 at 01:33:19
8 Posted 01/12/2019 at 02:02:04
Spot on. If of course either rumour is true!!
I am not sure that either of these options is better than Silva or Moyes in the short term.
9 Posted 01/12/2019 at 02:09:19
10 Posted 01/12/2019 at 03:45:35
Everton: GF 13, GA 20
11 Posted 01/12/2019 at 05:12:36
12 Posted 01/12/2019 at 06:48:21
Good manager and humble.
13 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:15:53
Bournemouth last season: 70 GA, third worst in the Prem.
Two seasons ago: 61 GA, fourth worst in the Prem.
Three seasons ago: 67 GA, fourth worst in the Prem.
Four seasons ago: 67 GA, third worst in the Prem.
The question with Howe is... Howe the feck has he kept them up for so many years when he can't learn to sort a proper defense, even with a leader like Steve Cook in the middle?
Gee, definitely the guy we need, eh?
14 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:33:00
Do they borrow Marco's random selection generator?
15 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:43:25
Howe did a good job getting Bournemouth promoted and keeping them in the league but has struggled to progress them at all in the last two years and a half despite much higher spending on transfers and wages.
Bournemouth have some clear defensive issues and have not done well in cups. Hes also only ever done well at one club; I usually prefer coaches who have improved the fortunes of a few different clubs, ideally in different leagues.
Doesnt seem like an exciting fit for me though if youre the sort who demands a fluent English coach with PL experience (I am not of this belief) then hes probably your best bet.
16 Posted 01/12/2019 at 07:46:54
Howe top of Toffees list. Says it all really doesn't it?
17 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:03:42
18 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:21:35
19 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:36:38
With no preseason and a tough set of fixtures, and a team depleted by injury and low on confidence, any new manager will have his hands full.
I hope that Marco can somehow pull off a shock and buy us time to line-up the right appointment in the summer.
At present there would be no guarantee that a new face would be able to improve this group.
By this evening we will see if we need to stick or twist.
20 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:37:23
More likely is the ex-Lyon coach Bruno Genesio. Plays 4-3-3, built a good young Lyon side and then went to China for a big pay day. Contract is up at the end of the year. Currently doing much, much better than Benitez in the same league.
A much safer bet is the man who replaced Howe at Burnley ~ Sean Dyche. He's a 4-4-2 man, uses foreign players very sparingly, and the football is effective but little more. Who you pick depends on how you assess the risk of relegation. Unfortunately, by end December, it might be a very real risk.
21 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:37:43
22 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:47:28
23 Posted 01/12/2019 at 08:56:05
Why don't we get a manager who has been at a 'bigger' club and proven he can win trophies. After 25 years of failure isn't that our aim.
24 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:05:02
25 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:09:29
The point is we are not in a position to aim high because no top ranking coach would even look at Everton in there present state, what do we have to offer ? Virtually no recent European experience and a decade of failures from foreign managers who have spent literally hundreds of millions and produced nothing. I've no faith in Brands being able to recruit a decent European or South American manager they want millions to spend and the best ones are way out of Everton's reach. We just get the dross, the mercenaries.
26 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:19:29
It's gonna suck when we have to sack him at the end of next season. Useless and brainless board we have.
27 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:21:06
28 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:27:32
Ferguson was a great player for us but someone must be demented to think he could manage us, even in the short term.
29 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:31:54
30 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:34:54
31 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:36:57
How can we possibly hire him? It's got to be bollocks.
32 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:47:12
Go and pay the money and get a winner because now more than ever we cannot afford to fall out if this league.
33 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:53:39
You're having a laugh. It's not the 1960s.
34 Posted 01/12/2019 at 09:59:55
Maybe the rumours of Ferguson as temporary manager are about right as it'll only be for a game or two (games we're likely to lose). But Howe is just media talk. He won't come north. He tried with Burnley and it didn't work.
35 Posted 01/12/2019 at 10:17:13
Like many have suggested, this is small mindedness, and hopefully it is not solely in the hands of Moshiri alone. He has proved already that Fifa Manager is not his forte, and in the real thing he is even worse.
36 Posted 01/12/2019 at 11:04:24
I know in the past fans on here have come up with their own lists of managers but there seems to be a shortage of candidates now. The problem also is the squad is down to the bare bones with the injuries so they would want lots of funds.
It's going to be a difficult time.
37 Posted 01/12/2019 at 11:43:33
As has been pointed out by other posters, his defensive record is amongst the worst in the Premier League in the last 4 seasons. Also, this is the man who thought it was good business to sign Solankie from Liverpool for £19 million... just remind me, how many goals has he scored?
38 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:20:32
39 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:22:04
Howe has done a good job with very limited resources at Bournemouth, but that doesn't mean, he can turn the current crop of our players into top six material.
I don't know enough about young continental coaches, but I can't see another Brian Clough or Howard Kendall on the horizon.
40 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:27:32
41 Posted 01/12/2019 at 13:36:30
42 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:34:05
Im well aware its not the 60s but weve tried up and coming young managers, managers who were great players and some who were dinosaurs but none of them have won fuck all bar an FA Cup between them. We pay £200,000 plus a week on Walcott and Schniederlin to name just 2 players who should never start. Surely that money would be better spent coaxing a top coach to our place.
43 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:49:50
Eddies the man for me !
With some of the names being bandied about, and the fact that coaches of the ilk of Simeone etc wouldnt consider I feel is the right appointment, Have to say the fact I agree with Bill (if is the case )gives me the creeps I never thought of this angle to be honest !! aagggh
@Steve Brown maybe look at Emery's illustrious list of clubs, he has been backed financially and launched within in 1 1/2 seasons of appointment
@Ray Jacques a manager who has succeeded at a bigger club like Pellegrini maybe ?
Tone down that logic Sir there is no place for that or any pragmatism in this discussion :) As stated last week on other threads,I will say to the detractors if it aint Eddie who it am ? Gimme names people ( and please be realistic )
"Also this is the man who thought it was good business to sign Solankie from Liverpool for £19 million"-- Jesus anybody who can take a corner nowadays is worth 25mil ffs,need I list our own bunch of expensive space wasters he hasnt been shopping in the same market as the bigger clubs, could you imagine trying to attract a top foreign star to bournemouth ?
The state our club has been run into over the last 3 decades is repulsive to me but it is also very real and has meant we cannot attract Top proven managers to our club Jose would not have come here even for a chinese lge sized pay packet
Eddie has earned it the hard way for me, has had sustained success ( altough relative ) with B/Mouth in the PL ( the league in which we actually compete it must be noted) he wont cost a bomb, he wont ask for 250mill for players ( which we don't have FFP) He is one of us, It is his dream job ( you wont find him on the golf course at 4pm ) He is very good communicator ( As are all succesful coaches) He will unite the club, He is respected and liked throughout the game. He tries to play attacking football, Gets the best out of the players he works with ( how many of our lot or Aresnals for that matter are performing anywhere near their potential ?)
There is questions over his defensive abilities however if as nearly every other small club he chose to play rugby league against the bigger sides it would look better but with similar points total, his bravery in sticking to his attacking principles has to be admired ( unlike Dyche ) and will suit better players, Cant see him playing 2 DMs at home ffs !!!
Do the right thing and good things will happen, Will he win the CL probably not but if he as a coach can get say a 30% improvement in results we will be knocking on the Top 6 door thats all we can and indeed have asked for as fans of EFC in its current state
44 Posted 01/12/2019 at 14:58:26
There's more chance of us getting 9 points this week than getting Pochettino.
45 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:04:42
46 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:35:56
I feel is bit unfair to compare him to Walker for 2 reasons, Walker was at Norwich for less than 2 seasons when Everton appointed him, they were already in the Top flight when he got the job
And according to all the Everton players at the time he was a bone idle lazy, Eddie is renowed for being hard working coach and I feel will be extra motivated
If you wanted to compare him in a negative light maybe Martinezs record would be similar
47 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:41:46
48 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:43:30
49 Posted 01/12/2019 at 15:54:13
Au contraire ;) I am happy and open to hearing any and all viable suggestions, My decision to back Eddie I am trying to take everything into account ( character, record, personality, availability etc )
I wont argue with your sentiments regards the hole we are in, However Somebody has to take on this mess ? have you anybody in mind ?
50 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:05:50
51 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:10:24
52 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:14:05
Either appointment would be very regressive for me
Benitez got Newcastle relegated ?? then nearly got them relegated a 2nd time?
Moyes similar with WHU, I wont even mention Sunderland phew!!!, If this was 2003 I would agree with you but unfortunately like players Managers become "hasbeens" too
Their ideas become outdated in an ever changing game there is a handful(maybe 5) of managers worldwide who can sustain over long period, Those 2 have proved for me they are not of this ilk
We need unity now at board/player and fan level these 2 would not bring this to the club, Anyways we will have to agree to disagree on it . I think Eddie is ambitious so would see us as a step up from B/mouth but who knows !!!!!!
53 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:22:14
54 Posted 01/12/2019 at 16:27:31
55 Posted 01/12/2019 at 18:40:21
56 Posted 01/12/2019 at 19:29:01
We need a Grade A manager. When will this nightmare end.
57 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:13:26
58 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:40:48
Those clubs were in Dire Straits ?????? Eddie took over at b/mouth when they were in administration age 29, they had a 17points deductions and were 10 points adrift, he saved them, Following season promoted
I have to admire your depth of research 2 goals against Spurs this weekend ??? ffs give me a break,
59 Posted 01/12/2019 at 23:44:50
Soren @45 I've brought up Marcelino a few times in the past days. For managers we have a realistic chance of getting, he tops the list. Great track record, and perhaps more importantly, at a once-proud Club that was struggling at mid-table for a spell.
Jer @59 I get some of what you're saying. It does seem to me that Howe teams are fun offensively, a bit pearl-clutching defensively though. But hell, I'll give him a go. Just not over Marcelino :)
60 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:12:12
Everything is right about it (Eddie) for me to be honest, the only shame is he isn't taking our team to Mordor on Wednesday to go for the jugular with some of our younger players being let off the leash
We have had a coward of a manager in place playing sideways football in a cluesless fashion, and consistantly playing over payed wasters who are not arsed,It will be an opportunity missed if we don't appoint Eddie, Somebody is going to give this lad a chance and he will succeed mark my words
If you look at how he has brought bmouth from near Administration to the top flight and keep em there is borderine miraculous, With results like that in such advese circumstances, if this was the business world he would have been snapped up
Anyways I can but suggest
61 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:19:06
62 Posted 02/12/2019 at 00:53:21
As for romanticizing his tenure with West Ham, come on - he did the bare minimum, then they chucked him almost as fast as we got rid of Allardyce.
63 Posted 02/12/2019 at 04:27:26
64 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:22:43
If he was that good, why didn't the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, or Tottenham go for him?? He's not being linked with Arsenal, but our board and some of the fans want him, but to me he's not done anything.
We should go for a Manager/Coach who can realistically take us forward, someone like Rafa, Marcelino, Ancelotti, or Tuchel. Are we that mid-table team that looks for an average manager? Think big, the sky's the limit.
65 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:32:31
The only foreign manager I would look at is Diego Simeone.
He's getting stale at Athletico and maybe it's time they and him looked at a new chapter
66 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:33:50
If he goes for Howe, he will be out by Christmas. Not this Christmas but, at car crash club central, you never know.
67 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:50:59
68 Posted 02/12/2019 at 09:55:06
"if he was that good, why didn't the likes of Man UTD, Chelsea, Tottenham go for him??"
Have you seen who manages Man U ? the guy has done nothing as a manager ? Chelsea have gambled on Lampard ( very like Eddie had a great head on his shoulders from and from an early age was a leader of men) Spurs have gone with Jose ( I am glad to see him in the game for the theatre of it but he is on a downward curve) he wont deliever I believe
The reason they didnt is because they fecked up I would suggest, regards Man U, Chelsea Eddie has a better record than either ??
So I am as confused as you but for different reasons obviously
Eddies the man. Do the right thing and good things will happen !!
The comparison is an honour
Just dont expect me to put half the effort into my posts that Steve does, or be half the Gentleman he is when under fire ;)
I am so convinced is the right thing to do I am tempted to write an article on same, Watch this space !!
69 Posted 02/12/2019 at 10:25:54
70 Posted 02/12/2019 at 10:45:35
Howe: Premier League win % = 30.72 *
Silva: Premier League win % = 34.04
Howe: Premier League points per game: 1.16
Silva: Premier League points per game: 1.22
His teams also concede more goals per game on average than Silva's and score at a similarly low rate.
Howe: Premier League Goals scored per game: 1.32
Silva: Premier League Goals scored per game: 1.29
Howe: Premier League Goals conceded per game: 1.72
Silva: Premier League Goals conceded per game: 1.57
Oh, and before anybody mentions 'limited transfer funds', Bournemouth's net transfer spend over the last 5 seasons is £175,000,000 (higher than Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs). Everton's, for comparison, is £225,000,000.
If a mediocre manager is what you want, Eddie Howe is your man.
* Howe's Premier League win percentage by season:
71 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:06:04
About a year ago, Pochettino was being touted as the next manager of Manchester United, and there were rumours he had been approached.
Of the candidates mentioned, he is probably the only one who has a record of some level of achievement in the Premier League as well as in Europe. Money talks; if Moshiri offered the right transfer budget, would he really not be tempted?
Pochettino's other huge strength is that he can build a football stadium. Sounds like a shoo-in.
72 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:15:41
Just give them to Sgt Major Allardyce, for god's sake. Pay him £10 million, let him do his thing: keep us up.
I've said it before. Give him £250 million and a 4-year deal, thank him for keeping us up twice.
Who do we think we are? I don't wanna watch us in the Championship.
Get real, Mr Moshiri and Mr Kenwright.
Okay Mourichio, but can he keep us up? Who can keep us up??? Big Sam.
73 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:23:16
For the past two or three years, there have been people on here saying we should go and get Vardy. That's right, the man who turned down a pay rise and Champions League football with Arsenal. The man who would drop everything and come to Everton.
The same is happening with Pochettino. Why would he want to come to Everton and repeat what he did at Spurs with two hands behind his back rather than just one?
That's my point.
74 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:34:13
You'll always get the dreamers who expect us to challenge for the title; them days are long gone. I think Howe has an eye for talent and the signing of Wilson on loan from Liverpool was a good piece of business, he has a lot more potential than anyone we have in midfield.
In fact, a lot of his team are young players with bags of potential and I think we need someone who can spot and develop real talent, that's the way forward for the Blues.
75 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:40:32
I would be as indifferent to his appointment as I was with Silva's.
76 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:50:43
Arsenal are reportedly after Marcelino, so who's he going to choose? It's impossible to get any decent European manager to consider Everton, we have nothing to offer, wages alone would only bring another mercenary.
That's why Howe would be the best option, it's a gamble but not as big as Silva, he's kept Bournemouth in the Premier League for many seasons, something Marco wouldn't achieve with any club in the Premier League. I think Silva would take Liverpool down if given 2 seasons in charge.
77 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:54:03
Who will come to us?
I will post this again:
In excess of 8,000 names on that list, all of whom are available right now.
Surely there must be SOMEONE. Surely?
78 Posted 02/12/2019 at 11:59:28
They leak goals, and are on a run of form similar to ours. They've also spent money, so don't get sucked into this "no money" myth. Yet people think Howe is the right man to rescue us from this crisis and take us forward?
It would be another massive fuck-up by the board, so I fully expect it to happen.
79 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:18:32
It's time we meant business and that starts with an appointment that excites the players and the fans.
Long-term, either Arteta or Pochettino. Short-term, yes, l would take Moyes just to get shut of this little boy that's trying to learn how to manage a football team while he picks up a few million.
80 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:28:28
Also, Bournemouth don't have a Director of Football position and he might not fancy operating in that environment (especially if – like many on this forum – he isn't impressed by the quality of recruitment under Brands).
81 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:32:47
82 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:43:23
Nice depth charge — though it hasn't gone off yet.
83 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:44:30
Some managers may consider a job where they have the final say on player recruitment to be critical.
84 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:50:13
85 Posted 02/12/2019 at 12:54:29
I think we need a big personality for this job. A Jose type appointment, not another nice guy. Sadly, I have absolutely no idea who that would be. Not Duncan Ferguson though, not even temporarily. Maybe one of his prize pigeons?
86 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:00:25
I have always felt it was Brands's task to find the manager and for Moshiri to rubber-stamp his choice; everyone else should be mere spectators.
87 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:05:25
"Sadly, I have absolutely no idea who that would be." I admire your honesty in this; pity the rest of the nay-sayers aren't as honest with themselves or their fellow TWebbers.
It is easy to say who it ain't but not as easy to put up a viable candidate, I mean somebody has to do the job?
Speaking of which, Iain @83, who do you suggest we employ to take over from Silva?
88 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:05:59
89 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:15:48
If you had £1.2 billion in the bank how big would your ego be???
Mr Moshiri picked Marco, if he hadnt he would have gone after Norwich,maybe Blades.
He don't like being told he got it wrong again, again.
Its his toy?????
He can do what the F - - - he likes,its the way it works despite it playing havoc with us 37,000.
The only thing them up top would listen to is if 10,000 turned up and that aint going to happen, "Is It".
If they aint got anybody in by Jan 1 st who is right, god help us.If Silva is still here with another 4 defeats maybe 5.
Big Sam will come.Yes Sir.
The players all get a card 1 st session.The ten commandments,goes like this.
You aint so super star this is what ya do.
No side ways pass.
You don't play with ya back to their goal,ya first option is a ball forward.
In fact every ball.
Its how he does it.
Big Sam Premier League 2020,2021 season.
90 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:22:47
Not having the right person ready to come in now does not automatically make Eddie Howe the best man for the job by default.
I'm trying avoid another wasted 18 months, which I firmly believe this would be. I'd rather ride out the next six, if it meant getting the right man.
Is that clear enough?
91 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:28:45
I never understood why Clubs can pay 20M + for average players but balk at paying a relatively small compensation for arguably the most important figure at the club.
Identify the best man for the job and make him an offer he can't refuse. Until then, I'd stick with Silva and hop he can turn things around.
92 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:32:28
On that note... John K @65 it's good that the "only foreign manager you would look at" is Diego Simeone, lol. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Diego Simeone would not look at us. He's the highest paid manager in the world, more than Jurgen Klopp, more than Pep Guardiola, and so on. Atletico has a virtually permanent spot in the Champions League, and in their best years, challenge for the La Liga title. He's less likely than Poch.
Adrian @71 I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not, are you actually advocating for Big Sam, and for a long-term deal? We went FIVE GAMES without a single shot on goal under him. Five games. I'd rather we play in League Two because it would be more exciting watching water boil over a heat lamp.
Edit: Adrian @88 holy shite you ARE serious. "Every pass is a pass forward?!" I don't even know where to begin.
93 Posted 02/12/2019 at 13:41:38
The right man is available now is my point, You give Arteta a bournemouth in administration at his age do you think he would get them up the leagues to Prem and keep them there ? would a f*ck
If you think Eddie is a punt not worth taking but would give the job to somebody who has never managed in the Top flight or anywhere else for that matter, I don't understand the logic, its fancyful
The number of Assistants who went on to be successful managers can be counted on 1 hand ( I can only think of Jose myself), conversely the amount who failed is the length of both arms
Caretakers tend not to work either and could get us relegated, so I am really not getting your thought process on this to be honest but each to their own, it seem scattergun at best
Arteta who Pep has said would not be let go till seasons end OR the "right candidate" when available ?
Clear as mud to be honest
94 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:01:04
You talk like you have a direct line to Eddie. Do you know he's available then, and would take the job? You sure he's as "viable" as you think? You seem to think Bournemouth would just release the magic man, the messiah, the man who gave them everything? They won't want to lose him, surely. What if they dig their heels in. Remember Watford/Silva?
Here's a question for you. What if we can't get Howe, what then? Who would you turn to? You should always have a plan B.
95 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:31:03
We're far too big a club for him outside of his nice little Bournemouth comfort blanket he would get found out. Bournemouth are on a shocking run too lets not forget, but because its Bournemouth there is no pressure and no spotlight on his poor performance. We've seen with Silva how a bad run can escalate quickly into a crisis when put under the microscope like he is right now.
Put on a pedestal at Bournemouth and always gets praise from the top managers for playing losing football the right way in a 3-2 or 4-3 defeat.
We need a character of sterner stuff and fortitude.
I seriously doubt even if asked that Howe has the balls to accept the job.
96 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:31:52
"Far more people think he is unsuitable than the opposite." I don't agree with this but is hard to guage but for me has been same names ( maybe 5 ) who have been "shooting me down" on this, alot of TWebbers have been open to it
I am a firm believer in appointing Managers who have competed in the PL and their career is on the up, I also feel ( who doesnt ) that I am good judge of character I always listen to interviews etc ask myself would this guy inspire me ? on my gut instinct if you like
If not Eddie I would take a punt on Chris Wilder more for the gut then his record in PL which he is new to, but he makes all the right noises for me
So I fully respect Arteta and what he did with Everton and the calibre of manager he has worked with but he is not his own man, If we cant have Poch,Simeone or Howe we should go for Wilder
As you may have guest I don't feel homegrown managers get enough credit in the PL and is somehow a minus on their CV
All very emotive and more importantly conjecture, If he is not under pressure at b/muoth is because he more or less saved them from obliteration ,brought them to the promised land and kept them there, How many of the proposed candidates can say that eh ? I believe he would take the Everton job in a minute , I am sure he has had offers previous and I would go so far as to say he has been holding out for it ,but again like yourself I dont know any of this to be true
97 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:33:28
"@Jack 56 I have to admire your depth of research 2 goals against Spurs this weekend ??? ffs give me a break."
Jack's post you mock offers more in-depth research and reasons why to be wary of Howe's appointment than you have offered on why Howe would be a good fit for Everton, beyond squawking like a parrot with a single mimicked sentence: 'Eddie's the man, Eddie's the man, Eddie's the man.'
You've been given plenty of very stark data as to why Eddie is NOT the man which you have totally - but TOTALLY - failed to counter.
Man up and spell it out for the rest of us, as you offer to do @ 68: "I am so convinced [Howe] is the right thing to do I am tempted to write an article on same, Watch this space!!"
Otherwise, your repeated squawking is just that and simply neither credible nor convincing.
98 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:34:12
99 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:38:47
100 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:44:35
Now Jay just cause I had the size of you pretending you didnt have a dog in the race and believing you were above such conjecture , only to pen a 3 page diatribe blowing bubbles up "JJ's" (as you call him) ass
If I get time I may endevour to put together and organize my reasoning for wanting Eddie although I have expressed same on several threads previous
"Eddies the man" is just me indulging in slogan-ism
Are you going to be man enough to admit who you want as manager or sit on the fence still ? Claiming not to have an opinion, while writing glowing 8 paragraph endoresments of Jorge Jesus whom you DONT want to be our next manager !!
Get your own house in order !! Maybe if I said "Eddie is the man" in latin it may impress the plebs on here ;)
101 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:45:17
He has nothing to lose at Bournemouth with this gamble but as his goals conceded show when he gets beat its not by the odd goal. Like Martinez at Wigan he's never showed he can shore up a defence despite many years with the same squad of players.
Can Howe really come here steady the ship and get us organised and hard to beat or will it be more cavalier football with the same type of results?
Carragher on Howe after Liverpool beat them 4-0 "I like Eddie Howe his team plays good football".
102 Posted 02/12/2019 at 14:45:47
How's the job hunting going?
103 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:03:32
Yep! Once again, as expected. Put on the spot and you revert to type: deflection and ad hominem insults, rather than addressing the topic that YOU insist on airing.
You had your knuckles rapped by the editor for your straw man arguments. You evidently aren't heeding the warning.
You repeat again that you may endeavour to put together and organize your reasoning for wanting Eddie if you 'find the time'.
You could find that time Jer by not putting up so many posts indulging in your own sloganism (your words) that "Eddies the man" (your copyrighted words) and instead doing some serious research and penning an article to convince us lessers mortals why you are lobbying so hard for Howe.
Because you have offered literally NOTHING in the way of data or reasoned logic as to why he should be given the gig. NOTHING.
And based on your posting history on both the main and live forum, I quite frankly don't believe you are capable of posting anything insightful on any subject beyond promoting your own self-acclaimed superior insight and judgement when compared to all other TWers.
104 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:13:05
Do you have any more latin to impress us with or just 1 word ?
There is no point in my indulging in your petty mudslinging, As discussed you claim not have any opinion on who our next manager should be and indeed claim is dumb line of questioning etc, so as I told you before is pointless in me even indulging
Man up and give your suggestion or your not contributing anything, Is OK to be wrong you know ?nobody would hold it against you or judge you for it, we are all here just giving our 2 cents nothing more
But if you don't wish to put forward a viable alternative to Eddie I can only assume is because he is the best candidate, So thanks for your vote ;)
btw Is this onslaught because I claimed your posts were "middling" at best :) I can take it back if i hit a nerve ,they are of course full of insightfull and intelligent insights ( and lots of stats copied from wikipedia etc etc)
105 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:25:03
Time to kiss and make up?
106 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:29:44
Jay is throwing punches then hidding behind the ref :) Either he is in for the battle or not ??
I am shadow punching to keep your analagy, I will agree to disagree and move on, I said to him previous I would not reply to his posts on the subject until he gives a name, else I have nothing to work with
Consider the matter closed on my side
107 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:31:58
Unfortunately gut feelings, judge of character etc aren't going to cut it. I wouldn't says Howe's career is on the up. It's been pretty much the same thing from Bournemouth since they were promoted. Mid 40's and bottom half. They did finish in the top half once with 46 points, but the team that went down got 40 that year. Martinez, Big Sam/Koeman, and even Silva have out performed him.
Please don't use the small club thing. He's had 4 years to build a Premier League team and has had money to do so. I don't see anything special on the pitch. None of this qualifies him to sort this mess out, and then take us forward.
108 Posted 02/12/2019 at 15:38:01
I'm guessing you have no mirrors in your house. You've got nothing, have you Jer? Absolutely NOTHING to contribute on ANY subject, never mind on Eddie Howe, beyond indulging in infantile gainsay and petty abuse of fellow TWers.
An African grey parrot demonstrates a broader range of opinions and eloquence than you seem capable of.
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110 Posted 02/12/2019 at 16:06:12
Calm down, no need to SHOUT, It is of course you that has nothing" to contribute ?
Name your candidate or I can only assume you have nobody better in mind than "our" Eddie, Your silence (if only) on this is deafening as the saying goes
I am failing to see what your input is on this ? If your here just to antagonize me you are wasting your time, I wont indulge until you man up and provide a name who is better than Ed and viable ,else is futile
I am not aware of the African Grey Parrots level of eloquence or its range of opinions I would assume would be very much reflective of the company that Parrot keeps :)
111 Posted 02/12/2019 at 18:16:02
Job hunt, ugh. Slow going, hasn't been easy. But thank you for asking, mate! I'm sure there is more than 1 handful of TWers who wish I'd get one quickly so I would stop posting, LOL!!
112 Posted 02/12/2019 at 18:54:19
Hope you get the right job soon! It's out there waiting for you to notice.
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124 Posted 02/12/2019 at 22:37:52
Everton needs someone with grit who will kick the players arses.
A lot will leave as a result, in their place we will find hard bastards that can both play some good stuff but get stuck in if the opposition goes route 1.
Think Moyes but modern and dynamic.
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