Both Sky Sports and The Telegraph are claiming that the 51-year-old Portuguese is the Blues' first choice to succeed Marco Silva who was sacked after 18 months in charge last Thursday.
Sky report that Everton are willing to offer the journeyman manager a three-year contract but face competition from Pereira's current employers, Shanghai SIPG who are supposedly willing to hand him a new £25m-per-year contract to tempt him to stay in China.
Original Source: Sky Sports
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1 Posted 10/12/2019 at 06:19:47
2 Posted 10/12/2019 at 06:31:20
There's talk of an Argentine guy Gallardo who is said to be a "winner".
I just hope we get it right this time.
3 Posted 10/12/2019 at 07:29:18
4 Posted 10/12/2019 at 07:34:44
5 Posted 10/12/2019 at 08:08:27
6 Posted 10/12/2019 at 08:19:58
7 Posted 10/12/2019 at 08:21:23
8 Posted 10/12/2019 at 08:40:33
9 Posted 10/12/2019 at 08:48:01
People seem to want pantomime and histrionics on the touchline these days he will probably provide that.
Tick that "passion" box that people want to tick.
Who ultimately knows in a few years he could have a statue or he could be another footnote in our history.
10 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:27:12
We need to aim for someone who is trusted by Brands to be in post by the opening of the transfer window. Im assuming Brands will still be handling the transfer policy and this does seem to have been an issue between him and Silva..
Accept there is an inconsistency in my view, as I kept saying Silva should have gone weeks ago. However, his failure was clear in October.
11 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:30:52
We need someone to come in and hit the ground running given our position in the league, one win is all good as it was but it doesnt make everything rosy in the garden.
We still have a monumental month ahead of us and its a huge job for whoever takes it over.
One thing I dont want to hear is “it takes time”.
It may well take time to evolve a certain style of play but it should never take time to get a bunch of players running around and putting everything into the cause as witnessed on Saturday.
Has it taken Rodgers long at Leicester?
As soon as Klopp went to Liverpool within two months they were running twice as far as everyone else in the league and were twice as fit and any players not on board with it were shown the door.
Its not rocket science.
12 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:39:07
Everton, even if it was back in the summer coming off a half decent season and finishing strongly in 8th, are not an attractive proposition for new managers. Add in the start we've had and people are thinking twice.
Does someone's ability to win a trophy 15 years ago mean they are good enough to win a trophy now? Because that's what we want. Not someone who has had their time, but someone who is about to have their time.
It's very difficult to assess Pereira, because he's won more or less everything, every season when it's put in front of him. His only bad spell was a catastrophic spell for 6 months in Germany.
If we leave it for now, then Gallardo will sign a new deal or will move on elsewhere and that ship sails. Marcelino wants a job now, and he flew in to speak to us and Arsenal, and if West Ham have any sense they will be reaching out before he goes home as well.
Leonardo Jardim is on rocky ground at Monaco and looks like he might jump before he's pushed, so if we wait he could end up elsewhere.
Sure, other candidates may present themselves after Christmas, but is it really work waiting in some vain hope that a complete novice is going to be better than managers with experience who have won trophies?
We've had caretakers who've done well before, ie Jimmy Gabriel won his only game in his first spell on 3-11-90 and Unsworth won his only game in his first spell on 15-5-16. Gabriel had that disastrous second spell where he had 7 league games and did the damage hat saw Kendall II's midtable blues plummet into the relegation fight that Walker barely got us out of.
The atmosphere was predictable before the game, I did just that. The formation too. The performance as well. I even called the win. Let's just not get carried away. We need to aim higher and try to get back into this race for 5th and to win the League Cup and we need a proven manager, not a novice.
13 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:40:04
Either they see something we don't or he's money driven ( or both ) - either way I'd be very wary of taking him on.
Gallardo on the other hand winner with a big club in a rough tough league - I believe a playing compatriot of Simeone and Poch ( correct me if I'm wrong )- seems a better fit on the face of it for what's required here.
One thing is for sure - I saw something very basic happening on Saturday against Chelsea with the same set of players that have been so weak and disorganised previously. We aren't far away with one or two additions and the right man management.
I'm not sure I - or any of us including the club itself -could survive another failure based on bogus reputations and exaggerated CV's better suited to the final rounds of the 'Apprentice'.
14 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:45:37
There's a reason the guy earns £30m a season in China. They wouldn't give out that salary to any old coach with a few medals. They are also desperate to keep him.
15 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:46:29
16 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:48:17
Our next manager will inherit a decimated midfield, lack of finishers and a plodding central defence. Not comparable.
As for Pereira i'm not convinced. There's similarities with Silva for sure and maybe that appeals in terms of continuity. I've read some reports from knowledgeable people who think he is an improved version of Silva, favouring pressing but with a more solid base. If so that would be ok I guess.
His record is decent though his spell at Munich worries me as he took them over mid-season in trouble and proceeded to get them relegated.
Would prefer Gallardo, Jardim or Jesus.
17 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:54:08
Pereiras record looks very similar to Marco Silva's had success in Portugal and Greece, but it didnt work here for Silva so I am very wary about appointing another manager with a similar track record.
18 Posted 10/12/2019 at 09:57:11
But not for the players. Mason Holgate spoke to the BBC after the game on Saturday. He talked about the atmosphere and how he was unable to communicate with people 5 yards away. He also made the comment that he did not see Duncan Ferguson on the sidelines. He went to look for him at each goal but couldn't see him as he'd run so far down the pitch. Holgate is confirming that when you are playing, and it's noisy, you cannot hear the manager, you ignore the manager, and it doesn't really matter what he's doing, unless you are the player closest to him and passing on a tactical change. As the clown Klopp is proving, the managers antics are to lift us, the crowd.
19 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:09:19
20 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:17:08
The bookies seem to see the most likely candidates as Pereira, Ferguson, Moyes, Marcelino, Emery, Kovac, Howe, Gallardo, Benitez, Arteta, Jardim, Wilder, Jesus and Ancelloti.
It's not a terrible list though Ferguson would be a stop gap (a risky one), as would Moyes.
My top 4 in descending order would probably be Gallardo, Jardim, Arteta, Marcelino.
21 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:29:37
The fact that Mason Holgate didnt see Ferguson on the touchline is irrelevant, he didnt do it to impress his players. This was showing his empathy with the fans, showing how much he loves this club. Ian Buchan was the manager when I first started watching Everton and I have never seen an Everton manager display such emotion as Ferguson did on Saturday. I loved the fact that he showed we had a manager who cared as much for this club as we do, as that has been sadly lacking in a lot of Everton managers over the years.
Maybe Duncan might not be the long term answer, but if Unsworth was given a run of 6/7 games to prove himself then why not afford Ferguson the same chance. Bye the way I was very skeptical about Duncan taking over, but I loved every minute of Saturdays game. And if the other Ferguson was well known for his hairdryer treatment if they hadnt played well, I think Duncans hairdryer treatment might be even hotter than Alex Fergusons should the team not put the effort in. Thats what fans want to see, even if you don't have the best technical players you want each player to give 100% in every game, and I think the players would be too freightened of facing Ferguson if they didnt.
Just finally you call Klopp a clown, well I hope 1 day we appoint a clown that gets to Successive Champions League finals winning one, and likely to win the Premier league this year. Just to add I hate LFC as much as anyone and hope they win nothing.
22 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:31:07
That's a long old list of names, which I think proves what we all know deep down - there's quite literally no way of knowing if it will work out for any manager and therefore all of them are a punt in the dark.
23 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:31:31
24 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:40:07
Cup: 4th Round
L. Cup: Semi Final
Super Cup: Winners
Cup: 5th Round
UCL: Last 16
ACL: n/a as did not qualify season before
2014-5: Olympiacos (joined in January with club in 2nd)
UCL: Groups (before he took over)
(Note Silva replaces Pereira and wins league only)
UCL: 3rd Qualifying round
EL: Last 16
(Note Fener last won the league in 2014 and have not won since, or indeed won anything)
sacked in August before season starts for failing to qualify for UCL groups.
2017: 1860 Munchen:
League: relegated from Bundesliga 2 as 3rd bottom
2018: Shanghai SPIG:
League: Champions (ending Guangzhou's run of 7 consecutive titles)
Asian CL: Last 16
2019: Shanghai SPIG:
Asian CL: QF
But don't forget this Chinese Super League Match Fixing Scandal but note it's a different Shanghai team to the one Pereira currently manages.
Super Cup / Charity Shields: 3
1860 Munchen: 30.00
Shanghai SPIG: 60.47
25 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:43:23
26 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:45:50
27 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:46:37
28 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:50:20
Whoever we get please no more 3 year contracts. 2 years max !!!
29 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:50:42
That's the spirit, mate!
30 Posted 10/12/2019 at 10:55:27
I'm not bigging up either tbh. If Benitez had never managed them and more those comments, and his achievements were more recent, I'd certainly want him. But he has managed them, and the first sign of trouble it would all go wrong as Goodison would turn on him quickly.
31 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:00:56
32 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:02:07
You missed my point completely, I said his running down the touchline wasnt to impress his players, whether they saw it or not. But what it showed is his reactions was the same as us fans inside the ground. And while they may not have noticed his actions I am sure that passion would come across at every training session he took. How you reckon that a manager can no longer hand out a stern bollocking to an under performing player, because the manager would face disciplinary action from the FA or the CAS, why?.
And if Klopps antics as you call it or Ferguson running down the touchline fires the crowd where is the downside in that.
33 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:02:35
34 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:05:02
35 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:06:09
Anyone have any idea why Moyes's odds have suddenly shortened for him to be the favourite again?
36 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:14:42
37 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:17:57
38 Posted 10/12/2019 at 11:18:47
Arsenal took on Emery because he was an established proven winner who would get them back in contention. He flopped.
Leicester City brought in Rogers and so far he's been a big success although Liverpool sacked him.
Dunc has had one game. He won it. But is he a long term answer? Can a side play flat out like that in every match or will they burn out, especially away from home?
The fact is there is no way to know if this or that manager will bring success or failure to Everton. No manager will ever be a perfect fit with all the fans. We would have all took Emery over Silva 18 months ago but if he couldn't do it with the players Arsenal have how could he have done it here?
All we can do is hope the powers that be pick the right man and we can finally start moving forward. This will be Moshiri's fourth attempt so maybe number four will be the charm.
39 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:02:24
It's a tough choice and the success of the appointment will likely owe as much to luck as anything.
40 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:11:24
That said, I'm not exactly sold on him. I'd rather we went for Gallardo.
41 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:23:09
Based on (some) other high profile appointments to the Premier League from other leagues abroad it's still a lottery in my view.
Good-looking CVs in Turkey, Israel, Portugal and even Spain don't tell us much regarding potential managerial success over here (Emery, Silva etc) and some owners' fixation with foreign coaches' can be irrational.
The European elements of the CV don't always cut ice either – qualifying for Europe from the Premier League is the tough bit – once in, its partly down to luck how far you go given the mixed quality of opponents at least til the latter stages.
To my mind there are good managers and good coaches – and rarely do you get both in one individual. Seems to me Silva's demise could have to do with losing his number 2 in the summer as much as anything.
42 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:37:13
Vitor Pereira plays a high tempo game, he likes to press, but he often found it difficult to do with the players he had. Having the superior side in Portugal every team but Benfica sat back, so Porto were always in possession and knocking it around. It was not safety first at all. He only lost 1 game in 2 seasons at Porto in the League though.
Link Watch it for yourself. It's been voted the greatest game of the decade in Portugal.
43 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:50:31
44 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:53:39
How come all those big clubs associated with Periera missed out?? Steve, your confidence in Silva was misplaced so I'd be shying away from being Periera's “campaign manager” if I were you!!
45 Posted 10/12/2019 at 12:59:59
46 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:02:18
47 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:04:25
48 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:06:36
If we weren't two points above the trapdoor you'd laugh at the complete ineptitude of Moshiri, but maybe we as fans take all this football lark too seriously. Let's just get the relegation out of the way, let's have the firesale, try and keep in the Championship for a couple of years and take it from there.
49 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:20:09
1. Leonardo Jardim
2. Marcello Gallardo
4. Vitor Pereira
However, I am concerned that Jardim might be another Silva in terms of being an excellent coach, who lacks the force of personality to take on our squad and our crowd. If we get any of those 4, then we should be getting a very good manager.
50 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:25:52
Tactics wise, coaching wise, he's not as good as the other serious candidates, and as for youth development, well he's never stuck around long enough to do so. But he was in charge of the Porto youth team and was not afraid to play kids when he got promoted.
51 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:26:50
52 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:31:32
53 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:37:42
54 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:43:36
It went pear-shaped last time when Ralf rang Nick and told Bill to fuck off!
55 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:51:43
Pereira was the driving force behind Villas-Boas at Porto. The Portuguese are known for needing a clubs manager to be all suave and heroic looking and poor old Vitor wasnt that. He needed the monkey in the suit to take point and do the front of house stuff Villas-Boas. AVB was found out badly at Spurs when the monkey tried to work without the organ grinder. Making Villas-Boas look good is no mean feat.
What needs to be realised is that Martinez, Koeman and Silva all failed at the same point with Everton. They couldn't get the team transformed into the 'total football' slick passing side we all want and need to be if we're to exist in the top-6 bracket.
Martinez had the best crack at it as he had the residue of Moyes dogs of war as a foundation. As soon as that faded the house of cards fell down. Koeman tried to change us in his first season and had to back out when he realised he didn't have the players to do it. Lukaku's goals saved us but weren't there the next season when Koeman tried again and failed again.
The point is that until we get a good technical manager someone who knows how to complete the task of changing our style of play we're always going to be locked into this cycle of hiring and firing and ending up with a mismatched squad from different short-term managers concepts.
Pereira is a good technician. I'm not sure he's a great man manager, but, we already have a great man manager in the club he proved that against Chelsea. To my mind a solid technical and tactical manager like the Portuguese guy with Dunc as his assistant looks like an effective blend of technical and man management skills.
56 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:55:54
The biggest negative against Pereira is not his 1860 tenure, although that sounds dreadful. It's the fact that he failed to get Porto out of an easy group in the Champions League after AVB had left them Europa League Champions and for once, top seeds in the CL group draw. Their group was APEOL (Cyprus), Zenit, and Shaktar. The kind of group the Portuguese dream of. He came 3rd, then bounced straight out the Europa League too. He did do better the next season, second in a group with PSG, Shaktar and Zagreb. He even beat PSG at the Dragao. They then played Pellegrini's Malaga in the last 16 and narrowly lost 2-1 on aggragate after winning the first leg 1-0 and spurning loads of chances. He needed to have played it tighter away, but Isco came into the game and scored a cracker. His European record is definitely mixed, and that's something you need to consider with him, as that's when he doesn't have the best side.
57 Posted 10/12/2019 at 13:57:48
Okay, he's friendly with his agent, but his record after he won Mickey Mouse leagues in Portugal and Greece, he was sacked after 13 months, by Fenerbache, then he went to1860 Munich, who were relegated to the 3rd tier in Germany. He went to China, as did Benitez, for a nest egg, and definetly not to further there career. No thanks.
I for one loved Big Dunc's passion and pride on Saturday. I don't know what Holgate saw, but it definitely wasn't a manager standing in his technical area, with his arms folded, and no expression whatsoever.
58 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:02:38
Why cant people see talent, and realise they sometimes just have to mix that talent up with the right people?
Get Louis Walsh on board perhaps? because he just picked up a few kids who had been rejected in a talent show, decided to see what they would be like in a band instead of solo, and both of these acts smashed America, and made millions, out of kids who probably wouldnt have made a cent!
Many a true word, is said in jest!
59 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:03:36
60 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:11:39
61 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:12:40
62 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:15:15
63 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:19:35
If available I think I'd maybe have him above Pereira in my list.
64 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:19:42
As for all these other managers that people tout the key questions are did they improve each and every team they managed and what was the team like before they took over?
Everton are not in a position to challenge for top 4 and maybe pushing luck to challenge a very strong top 6 for the next couple of seasons. This means our next manager has to be a builder, someone who can create a strong spine in the team, identify good backups to cover injuries, etc. This also means that we need a manager who will commit himself to the club for at least 4 years, how many of the favourites will do that, Peirera like Silva appears to swap clubs every one or two years as does Jardim and Marcelino has managed only 3 seasons with one club.
We also need a manager to kick us on and looking to Moyes is a non-starter in this respect. Mind you the club could probably do no worse than pick the least favoured candidate from amongst the fan choices because both Martinez and Silva seemed to be the favourites with people on here and elsewhere at the time.
Gallardo may well be the best choice of the leading candidates but only if he can communicate with all the, predominantly English speaking, players.
65 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:20:16
You are right yet we have a habit of putting people together with caveats.
"Here you go Marcel, you can be Director of Football and have autonomy but the owner has already chosen our next coach..."
Immediately any players Brands might have scouted based on value or feasibility might be abandoned because they don't suit Silva's system or, worse, he brings them in anyway while Silva is already obliged to use players he inherited from a previous regime that don't suit his system.
I'm going to be generous about Silva and say I think we were another season away from having the players he needed. I got the sense that the likes of Richarlison and Iwobi were what he wanted. Sigurdsson not so much. And I am puzzled about Mina and why he left Barcelona so quickly.
Mr Ferns? Put me straight on this? I'm not holding you responsible for all things Silva like some ridiculously have but you tend to know the answers to questions like the above...appreciate your feedback on the Iwobi and Mina points.
Also would have thought Walcott fits the Silva system hence his inclusion to the annoyance of some.
Mostly irrelevant now I know!
66 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:22:36
He has been shifting clubs like people shift underpants. He has been in a club for between 6 months and 2 years. How could anyone think he would bring stability to us?
No and no...
67 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:25:59
We definietly do not want a next Martinez or Silva, that will ruin the club.
68 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:36:20
He really is 'Silva Classic'. A couple of lads in our Lisbon office were very clear, back when Moyes was being replaced, in their views of Villas-Boas limitations. The phrase one used was 'sock-puppet'. Some mention about Pereiras hand up his backside while he was at Porto. The conversation at the time being Pereira.
Their view being that he would fit well into a side like Everton but he'd have a lot to do to get a defence-first Moyes team playing his way. Seeing we've moved some way forward from there, in theory, he should have less to do now.
69 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:49:25
What I find interesting is how much you all know about these prospective managers. I'd never heard of half of them until recently, yet you all seem to know their entire career history, and all their credentials!
70 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:52:09
A lot depends on the fit at the time.
Look at how HK struggled initially and then it all came alive.
It is all about synergy.
Im reading that Moshirir wants Silva, Kenwright wants Moyes and Brands wants Gallardo or Marcellino and they are all in disagreement.
Whether thats paper talk or not I don't know but I wish Moshiri would stop playing FIFA manager, put Kenwright in his place and give Brands the support he needs.
What a clusterfuck our club has become.
71 Posted 10/12/2019 at 14:55:09
Moshiri wants Silva??!
72 Posted 10/12/2019 at 15:03:00
73 Posted 10/12/2019 at 15:03:40
74 Posted 10/12/2019 at 15:53:51
Duncan - Absolutely love to see him make a go of it, but not the long term answer for me yet.
Ancelotti- no thanks, doesnt seem the force he was.
Emery - please no!
Eddie Howe - really?
Kovac/Gallardo - dont know too much about them, but not at all convinced. Ditto no PL experience.
Rafa - take him tomorrow if interested, but huge release clause apparently so probably no go.
Which, of all the press linked contenders, leaves a certain Mr Moyes, who is still up there in the running as far as the bookies are concerned and they tend to know stuff. When you look at the above and the lack of an other serious candidates, well - Dont be shocked if it happens.
75 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:08:09
76 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:11:54
For my part I don't want Pereira.. looks way too risky... that's exactly what we don't need right now. I know that every new manager brings an element of risk.. but we should be going for the least risky.
I still fancy Rafa and I don't know why his name hasn't been really mentioned that much. Couldn't be financial reasons if we actually end up going for Pereira.
Only plus point of the rs winning last weekend was that hopefully it'll finally put an end to Howe being a contender.
Thankfully big Dunc got a much needed win last weekend.. otherwise there would have been a major panic and Moyes would be more likely in place today. No way do I want him.
Going by SSN last night Rafa gave a basic 'come and get me' interview.. that's what it looked like to me anyway.
Gallardo or Rafa for me
77 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:12:55
Brands was brought in, for both his Football knowledge and connections, with our disastrous history with recent Managers, please just let him do his job, and the hiring of a new supremo, if that is what is going to happen.
Should it be done as SSN are reporting before the week-end (Perreira) where would that leave Duncan?
78 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:19:14
I would say he is most definitely getting interviewed for the post and is on our short list. A friend of mine has had direct communication with Moyes Snr, through work, who has told him that DM cancelled a trip to Brazil planned for this week. He was then very coy as to the reasons behind it.
Im not saying he is getting the job but I would say he is most definitely under consideration.
I appreciate this sounds like a “I know the tea lady of the man who walks DMs cousin pet rabbit” style story. So take it for what it is, a rumour.
My friend is a RS and Rangers fan but a gambler and was convinced enough by the comment to lump some dough on
79 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:23:35
80 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:31:57
Or am I reading this all wrong?
81 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:36:41
He also said contract talks have been on going since last Tuesday which I do not believe.
I cant imagine Moyes haggling very much or why it would be so long drawn out?
Aww who knows... just hope it isnt Moyes as that would totally defeat the purpose of having “the best” DoF in Europe. But he has no reason to lie about the extent of his conversation unless of course it is to (successfully) wind me up.
Btw. Little side story to prove it is possible. In the past, Brendans family (he is from my neck of the woods) told similar friends weeks in advance that he had got the Liverpool job and lump money on it. A lot of money was successfully placed on that appointment in this area.
82 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:39:05
I agree it seems all a bit far fetched to me. Why would Moyes go to Brazil in the winter? Doesnt the domestic calendar stop around this time? So it wouldnt be for footballing reasons.
Aww I thought it was worth sharing but happy for it to be filed under “tea lady” rumour.
83 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:42:10
84 Posted 10/12/2019 at 16:47:59
85 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:07:04
86 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:07:25
Pereira pulls out of Everton management ‘process
Something about commitments in China
What a surprise
87 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:12:48
88 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:14:23
89 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:15:51
90 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:24:04
91 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:09:12
92 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:35:41
This is the problem we now face. The likes of Ten Hag, Gallardo, Marcelino, and so on will all be thinking that Everton is a difficult job and they are risking their immediate career by taking the job.
93 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:43:57
94 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:44:55
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