Speculation that Everton are seeking a deal with Inter Milan for winger Matias Vecino has not abated with the latest reports from Italy indicating that the Blues have already offered the player a contract.
The 28-year-old has been linked with a move to Goodison for much of the current transfer window and has also been mentioned in connection with Tottenham but it's worth mentioning that his name was out there when Carlo Ancelotti stressed that the names being raised in the media with regard to Everton were wrong.
Journalist Nicolo Schira has tweeted in the past 24 hours that negotiations with Inter and the Toffees are at an advanced stage with the former looking for the latter to raise their offer from €15m to €20m (~£17m). He says that Everton have tabled a four-year deal for the player.
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1 Posted 25/01/2020 at 18:28:13
2 Posted 25/01/2020 at 18:53:15
Think we'll be ok this season anyway.
3 Posted 25/01/2020 at 18:57:37
4 Posted 25/01/2020 at 18:59:14
5 Posted 25/01/2020 at 19:07:32
6 Posted 25/01/2020 at 19:15:56
7 Posted 25/01/2020 at 20:48:07
I'd sooner see Baningime get one last chance than this. Carlo has done very well with the squad at his disposal. Why not just wait? Thereve been very few transfers of note in the last few weeks. Why even have a January window?
8 Posted 25/01/2020 at 21:09:53
9 Posted 25/01/2020 at 21:40:01
I know more of Allan, and for me hes a proven player, may be better, but has a couple of years on Vecino.
Its for an intrigue now, in view of the FFP ground rules, plus Marcels modus operandi, but also surely In the current plight, that Don Carlos, Will should preside, as the final descision maker, on who comes in.
Based on our injury crisis in midfield, either referenced players would be good, but the board, will have some daft offset plan, to surely balance such buys in this window.
Its good the club is looking to strengthen and hopefully lessons learnt.
Optimism and reality, but with a top boss, I'm sure we now have more pulling power than for the last 30 years.
Now to find the next Gerd Muller, or Henrik Larsen, and we will be able to beat the so called top 6.
10 Posted 25/01/2020 at 21:56:12
11 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:07:16
Paying £15-20m for Vecino is too much and will be more cash spunked down the u-bend. Get the lad in on loan, let's have a look at him first (and vice versa) or walk away.
If it doesn't work out that's £20m towards a top 23- or 24-year-old CM in the summer.
12 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:14:20
13 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:19:38
Dark forces, as ever, are always in play, and I hope the rumours about Timo Werner, are just media BS... but it would be brilliant if he arrived at GP!
14 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:39:24
15 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:44:26
16 Posted 25/01/2020 at 22:55:15
17 Posted 25/01/2020 at 23:02:54
I want to be in Europe next season so anyone we can get in there can't come soon enough for me.
18 Posted 25/01/2020 at 23:12:51
I don't know much about him, but we are weak in the middle, and £17m in today's market won't even get a Championship midfielder.
Same with Allen, despite my time in Brazil, this is a player who has completely passed me by. But if he's got the quality we need, and we really need it, and centre mid is a position where experience counts, and depending on the style, 28-33 are the best years
19 Posted 26/01/2020 at 00:11:15
Times, science, global warming etc and this is not always the case. I really hope we get Allan, Vecino and perhaps both.
Dreaming on... In Carlo, we trust.
20 Posted 26/01/2020 at 01:02:18
He's only started 15 games, and played 16; but he's got 5 goals and an assist. Plus he played his way up thru the French system to U20s.
Ludo is only 22, and is valued at, or around £8 - £8.5m. The sticking point is, that he has signed a deal to 2024. If a loan, and option to buy was available, he'd solve or RM problem at a stroke. Plus he's french, so he'd fit in with Digne, Sidibe, Gbamin and Delph.
Looking at him, he has vision, and works hard, again a failing might be the lack of assists, but he is waayyy better than what we have now.
21 Posted 26/01/2020 at 06:45:49
Delph's French accent is so thick, not even Gbamin, Sidibe and Digne can tell what he's saying. Doubt Ludo would be for loan and available so cheaply. All we do is hope that the club finally get it right and bring in players that can do the business from day 1, and not month 4 as is usually the case.
22 Posted 26/01/2020 at 07:56:28
Hes probably already seen enough of the likes of Davies, Schneiderlin, Delph, Sigurdsson, Coleman and Walcott to know theres only so far that these limitation men will take you.
I would not be surprised either to see him pursuing a new keeper in summer, Pickford probably needs a virtually error free three months now to convince the manager because frankly his behaviour has been erratic for 18 months and his decision making that of a certified man.
Whoever the manager pursues we need to bring in quality capable of winning more games, keeping more clean sheets and being mentally braver than we have seen from this group.
I think at least six regular first teamers need replacing with better players.
23 Posted 26/01/2020 at 08:30:26
I'd rather we waited till summer to buy someone on the up in the 22 to 24 age group. Otherwise, we stockpile under-motivated players who we can't shift. In the meantime, let Carlo improve the group we have with good coaching. Might turn out an unlikely star or two (as per Holgate).
24 Posted 26/01/2020 at 08:54:37
The last 6 or so games will have given him a good look at some of our weaknesses and the likes of Walcott, Niasse, Keane, Davies, Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin's days are numbered. Trust this manager – he's what we need!
25 Posted 26/01/2020 at 09:13:11
Offloading players will be down to Brands, and he did quite well shifting guys out (including loans) last summer. However, Carlo has no magic wand and will have to work with what Brands can provide.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Schniederlin featuring in his midfield next season. Also, it will be some time before we know whether Gomes and Gbamin will be rehabilitated. It will take a few transfer windows for the new boss to make the team his own.
26 Posted 26/01/2020 at 09:19:13
27 Posted 26/01/2020 at 10:48:21
It's okay to say "Play the kids, this season is a write-off anyway..." but it's not. 5th and 6th are there to play for. It would take one thing we have struggled with, a big fat dose of consistency, but the chance is still there. If we can somehow hit a European place, then we may see the pull of Carlo in full swing in the summer market. We have to finish in the table as high as possible, it will help sell the club in the summer to better players.
28 Posted 26/01/2020 at 11:10:11
Get them in now, get to know their new team mates, the system Ancelotti wants to play, then an early start to a good pre-season and away we go next season. Obviously, we hope there will be new signings in the summer, but as I say, the players valuation will increase and also there will be competition for players bought in the summer.
29 Posted 26/01/2020 at 11:33:30
We need to be very careful about new signings. The manager's job is to get the best out of the expensively assembled squad that we have. Let Carlo work with them this season and we can look at refreshing things in the summer (when at least Niasse will drop off the wage bill).
Last time we spent big in January, we got Tosun and Walcott. Both now considered by many on here as deadwood.
30 Posted 26/01/2020 at 13:38:56
I know from looking at his stats, we certainly wouldn't be buying him for goals.
31 Posted 26/01/2020 at 14:50:55
32 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:06:36
33 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:40:03
Looks like this one is a goer.
34 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:44:12
Easy to undervalue these players – because possession is an effective (albeit dull) form of defence and it also helps deliver the ball to players who can hurt the opposition in attack.
He'd be fine on loan – may help sneak us into the Europa League which would be good – and fair enough, Carlo is wiser than I am if he wants him now for circa £20m.
But I kind of feel this sort of high-earning short-termist signing is what has been so counter-productive in the period since Moyes left – players with no room to improve and kick on... like Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Walcott, Tosun, Sigurdsson.
On paper, all looked better than what we had – and looked set to improve the side. Apart from a few flashes, none have really done the business and we just can't shift them because their wages are too high for other clubs to take on.
35 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:44:28
36 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:46:55
37 Posted 26/01/2020 at 15:51:45
38 Posted 26/01/2020 at 16:24:53
39 Posted 26/01/2020 at 16:35:29
40 Posted 26/01/2020 at 16:45:16
I thought we retired that number after Oviedo.
41 Posted 26/01/2020 at 16:56:14
He's a decent player but quite similar to Gomes in profile (albeit a better tackler). A loan would make sense. Though these days £10-15m is I guess seen as a ‘low fee'.
Buying 28-year-olds is not really Brands's modus operandi and, like others, I think I'd rather keep our powder dry for the summer unless it's a loan or a cut-price move.
42 Posted 26/01/2020 at 17:11:31
Otherwise, it's another on the payroll, which we are allegedly trying to reduce, plus if he is a flop, and we buy him outright, we are again stuck with more deadwood!
I would rather see news on Everton Soares to be honest, even if it is not to be till the Summer.
43 Posted 26/01/2020 at 17:12:42
I think Barkley had the number 8 before he left, didn't he? And Delph wears it now!
44 Posted 26/01/2020 at 17:22:42
45 Posted 26/01/2020 at 17:37:11
46 Posted 26/01/2020 at 18:22:21
Everton have many good players, some who just don't fit in, and others who are just underachievers. Carlo has been giving most of the squad some game time and I am sure he now knows who he wants around for next season.
Baningame is the odd one out at the moment and I can only assume he hasn't performed too well in the Under-23s or wherever.
We have seen Gomes and Gbamin is back in training but neither of these will be brought back too soon. Carlo may indeed have some names he wants to let go and therefore may want a player or two to replace them.
We shall see what happens in the next few days if anything.
47 Posted 26/01/2020 at 19:28:30
48 Posted 26/01/2020 at 20:49:31
49 Posted 26/01/2020 at 23:47:53
50 Posted 27/01/2020 at 01:35:45
He can also do the holding midfielder role and keep play ticking along, but he'll be another pass the ball sideways merchant. As I say, Vecino is better as a ball carrier and tackler. He should be a good signing at around £15m.
51 Posted 27/01/2020 at 03:23:37
52 Posted 27/01/2020 at 10:12:28
You must have misread that, mate. He was actually in talks about a 3 "metre" extension. His phone charger couldn't reach the plug in the dressing room from his locker in the car park seemingly.
53 Posted 27/01/2020 at 13:38:27
We do need good footballers in midfield, ones who can put their foot on the ball.
54 Posted 27/01/2020 at 15:25:17
I've seen him play quite a few times, as I have stated before. But he is not a player I have taken too much notice of. In other words, he did not do anything badly, or make mistakes, nor did he do anything outstanding. He just seems to be a Steady Eddie.
Coming in on loan would be a good idea. We need the numbers. However, as a £20m signing, at the age of 28, no, not for me. I prefer younger and on the way up, not struggling to get a game for a side who think Victor Moses, Ashley Young and Alexis Sanchez would make good signings! Of course they do have Lukaku and a load of top players (Nicolo Barella for example). With FFP issues, why not keep the money in the bank and see what happens with Gbamin and Gomes.
55 Posted 27/01/2020 at 15:27:07
56 Posted 27/01/2020 at 15:42:33
57 Posted 27/01/2020 at 16:14:39
58 Posted 27/01/2020 at 17:20:37
I dont care if hes 28 (ancient I know) or 18. If they can be effective for a couple of seasons then welcome aboard. Personally, I dont give a toss about their sell on value, thats not my problem. I dont want a team of spotty faced teenagers who “might” increase their value, or not, I want a team of men who can compete!
59 Posted 27/01/2020 at 17:37:07
Sell on fee
People back from injury
All a load of excuses you lot have made not to buy him, Carlo IF he wants him then sound buy him. Not arsed about the details so bollocks
60 Posted 27/01/2020 at 19:12:26
61 Posted 27/01/2020 at 19:20:45
62 Posted 27/01/2020 at 19:23:13
63 Posted 27/01/2020 at 20:33:39
Spot on. Mike 62 meaning what?
64 Posted 27/01/2020 at 20:52:43
65 Posted 27/01/2020 at 20:54:43
66 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:04:31
67 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:13:26
Sigurdsson and Schniederlin were signed at 28. We cannot shift them. We are stuck with them because they are both the wrong side of 30 and no one wants to take them off our hands.
Moise Kean is 19, hadn't scored all season, but yet Italian clubs were queuing up, almost begging, to take him back to Italy.
Spot the difference? With a younger player there is always the chance to get your money back, Sandro Ramirez excepted.
If Vecino comes in for £20m and does well for 4 years, on a 4 year contract, and then leaves for nothing, then great, job done, money well spent. He might be the leader we need. He might be the one who can be Carlo's man on the pitch. The issue for me, with FFP a noose around our neck, is £20m now, on a 28 year old central midfielder (to go with our trio of 30 year old central midfielders), is asking for trouble. When Everton ask for trouble, trouble always delivers.
68 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:38:55
69 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:44:34
Contrast to now where we have Delph (30), Sigurdsson (30), and Schneiderlin (30) and the only other fit central midfielder is Tom Davies (21). If we spend £20m on this fella, we cannot afford for him to flop.
70 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:53:26
Teams are queuing up for Cavani and hes like really ancient at 34.
71 Posted 27/01/2020 at 21:59:58
Signing Vecino could go either way, he could be a good signing and worth every penny and more. There is a big risk, and that is this does not come off, he would be on big wages, and so no one would take him off our hands, like Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Delph. Then, with FFP biting us hard, we are stuffed in the summer as we do not have the funds to make a big move for the big players Ancelotti might be able to attract.
Do we really NEED this guy, or can we just tread water until the summer, see how Gomes and Gbamin are and then react with FFP easing off a little and with that extra £20m quid in our pocket?
72 Posted 27/01/2020 at 22:09:30
73 Posted 27/01/2020 at 22:10:19
74 Posted 27/01/2020 at 22:12:16
75 Posted 27/01/2020 at 22:12:48
Great officiating, and interestingly it was posted by the player's own club, which obviously has a sense of humor.
And some fine effort by the player himself, picking himself up from the first bad foul and sprinting 80 yards to commit the second. Taller version of Mo Besic.
76 Posted 27/01/2020 at 22:17:56
If you look at the really big clubs, then they do this:
- Andre Gomes signed for £33m and sold for £22m
- Lucas Digne signed for £15m and sold for £18m
- Yerry Mina signed for £10m and sold for £27m
Those three are considered flops. Pretty big ones in the case of Gomes and Mina. And yet, Barca made a profit on the flops for £9m. All because these guys were young enough that other teams down the pecking order fancied they could get a tune out of them.
77 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:01:10
As to players: if Carlo says they're good enough, then they're good enough!
78 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:06:42
Nobody wants a poor player no matter what their age.
If someone has a pedigree and I'm sure Ancelotti has seen a lot more of him than us and is better placed to make a judgement then surely we have to allow him some leeway.
At 28 he is hardly on his last legs.
I think its wrong to come on here and question the purchase of players we know nothing about so I'm prepared to wait and see.
Our current MF is threadbare so we need reinforcements now even if we don't get that world class player we all desire.
79 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:21:43
As for the midfield being threadbare, Gomes and Gbamin are back at Finch Farm, Baningime is playing games again, and Delph, Schneiderlin, and Davies are fit with Sigurdsson likely to be fit for the weekend. So do we really need another midfielder right now, in what is undoubtedly a sellers market?
80 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:21:52
One only has to look at what Leicester did not so long ago.
They had a no name manager who brought in some no name players who got the ball rolling for Mancini to eventually mold into a top class team.
Everton have indeed paid well over the odds for some big name players who started well but have disappointed since and gone through some managers(pretenders) who have not been able to make anything from the underachievers they have.
Leicester still have people like Vardy who can turn a game and they are still a much better outfit than Everton.
We now have a big name manager who is probably earning more than any of his predecessors who we all expect to make silk purse from a sow's ear.
He has had a little time to assess what he has and there is no excuse for having a clear out between now and next season.
Despite a couple of hiccups he has not done too badly so far.
If they can get a couple in now, all well and good as they will need a few games to get integrated into the Prem.
81 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:30:55
82 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:43:16
83 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:52:20
If Carlo thinks this guy is good enough, then I am happy to trust his judgement.
84 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:53:39
85 Posted 27/01/2020 at 23:58:16
86 Posted 28/01/2020 at 00:07:30
87 Posted 28/01/2020 at 00:13:07
We need to take risks and hope to strike lucky. I prefer the Moise Kean type of risk.
88 Posted 28/01/2020 at 00:13:15
I was going to say exactly the same as Christy.
Gomes and Gbamin "may" get a little game time before the end of the season and we don't know at this stage whether they will be the same players. I am told that Gbamins type of injury will slow him down and he wasnt the quickest to begin with.
I would like to see Beni given a chance to show what he has got but again he is not nearly up to prem standard yet.
Let the clubs accountants worry about FPP I just want the best we can get asap and there is no doubt we are threadbare in MF right now and even if Iwobi is fit in a few weeks time we are really missing a "real presence" in the middle of the park.
89 Posted 27/01/2020 at 00:14:02
90 Posted 28/01/2020 at 00:32:15
91 Posted 28/01/2020 at 01:40:51
92 Posted 28/01/2020 at 02:09:10
93 Posted 28/01/2020 at 02:41:28
94 Posted 28/01/2020 at 04:56:27
But 15 to 17 million in today's market is not that pricey.
And as some have noted, we probably can't find anyone of high quality in the UK market with this price.
If we are talking about a central midfielder, then perhaps it doesn't make sense. For a winger though, we are talking about competing for a slot with Richarlison, Bernard, Iwobi, Walcott.
Based on the players here competing, I think it's worth strengthening. Walcott seems to be the most vulnerable, as of the lot, he is more likely to be only competing for the winger position. Of course, he can play upfront (which I thought he was during one of the more recent games), but the other players listed here can be rotated to the number 10 position.
95 Posted 28/01/2020 at 10:03:22
With FFP the books have to remain balanced and if we continue to buy older players with no re-sale like Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin etc then we are shooting ourselves in the foot three or four years down the line.
Brands knows this well which is why he targets primarily players aged 20-25. As Steve F points out Barcelona do this well and even make profit on their flops; which we did to a degree with Vlasic and Onyekuru; might do with Besic too.
We bought Delph for a pretty minimal outlay because he was meant to bring leadership (dubious whether that has proved the case) but I highly doubt we will spend £20m on a 28 year old untested in the prem. I think Brands would prefer a loan of a max of £15m with some additional clauses.
On another note i'm a bit jealous of Spurs buying Bergwijn, £28m is a fair whack for a young Eredivisie player but he looks very quick and strong to me; would not mind him lining up on our right wing.
96 Posted 28/01/2020 at 11:34:45
97 Posted 28/01/2020 at 11:44:36
But I think Buendia has been almost as good and would be available for about 50% of the price as he's not English. He can play on the right or through the middle. He does not get quite as many goals as he should but has the potential. Unbelievably hard worker and excellent defensively as well as being one of the best open play creators in the league. Think Evertonians would love him.
98 Posted 28/01/2020 at 11:58:48
99 Posted 28/01/2020 at 12:35:08
Grealish is an outstanding player. He'll be in the England squad this summer and commanding a £60m transfer fee. Out of our reach unfortunately.
Like Sam, I'm a big fan of Buendia. But I worry about his lack of goal threat, and goals from the midfield has been the major thing we've been lacking this year.
I'd like to see us move for David Brooks this summer. Turns just 23 in July, could be available on the cheap if Bournemouth go down, and he possesses real quality and - crucially - goals.
100 Posted 28/01/2020 at 12:44:45
I think Joe Allen would suit us down to the ground for the next couple of seasons and bring much needed nous and energy to the squad, its very doubtful this transfer will come off but we definitely need someone with the samenous and energy in central midfield, we are nearly bankrupt in that position.
101 Posted 28/01/2020 at 12:51:04
Totally agree about both players, especially Cantwell who looks a player. I think with the problem we have at the moment with FFP trying to secure Grealish might be more than we could afford right now, but definitely the right sort of player we need.
102 Posted 28/01/2020 at 12:51:43
In terms of Vecino its interesting that Sheff United are closing in on Sander Berge and West Ham on Tomas Soucek from Slavia. Both are quite similar players to Vecino but younger and with arguably higher potential.
103 Posted 28/01/2020 at 13:58:49
Sorry, but I'd call time on Baines' career at the end of the season. He doesn't justify the big wage he is on, and I don't think he can be relied on long term. Matty Foulds is not good enough for next season, and probably not beyond.
So left back-wise, Jamal Lewis is 22. He shouldn't cost a load. He is English (about to be become important in a post-Brexit PL). I think he would be good backup for Digne and might even surprise a few if he got a run in the side.
He's fast, full of energy and gets up and down that wing. He does look suspect defensively, but how much is down to him and how much is just Norwich being too open? definitely, worth a look if the price is right.
Buendia is a good budget option right sided midfielder for me. He can tuck in like Bernard does on the left to play that 4222 formation Ancelotti likes. His stats are outrageous. He is the third most creative player in the league and does so for the bottom side in the league. I think he could be a revelation in the right side.
Cantwell has a higher profile and will probably go for bigger money, and probably won't be worth it. Definitely worth buying at the right price though. Grealish is the same. Good player, but likely to have an inflated price.
104 Posted 28/01/2020 at 14:57:59
Each time he did play, he showed he still has 'it'.
It got me thinking if he has a clause in his one year extended contract that if he plays a certain amount of games or minutes then it could automatically renew a further year's extension, thus to avoid that, the reluctance to give him more game time than both Digne's and Leighton's relative form has possibly merited.
Just a thought.
105 Posted 28/01/2020 at 15:01:45
Baines would be 36 at the end of next season, you can't rely on him. I'd rather see a young lad come in, someone like Jamal Lewis. I wish we still had Antonee Robinson on our books as he now seems to be good enough for AC Milan, so surely he could have been at least our back up next season?
106 Posted 28/01/2020 at 15:40:16
Its easy to judge Digne on his stats but equally by the Goodison groanometre every time he gives the ball away. He finds himself in some space but could do more than he does. Defensively hit and miss. Personally speaking Baines should have had more minutes than he has.
Rob, 74 has a good idea. Usmanov could sponsor the half time pitch spikes. Simple. As it is Brands should possibly be looking at loans instead of gambling mid season. Still within distance of a European place however, should we not go for it instead of banking on getting it right next season when we still have points to play for?
I dont rightly know
107 Posted 28/01/2020 at 15:43:40
108 Posted 28/01/2020 at 15:46:36
Out of the wish list I only have 2 both of whom wouldn't break the bank for this window
1-Dwight McNeill at Burnley: he seems a really decent footballer who will probably evolve into a central player. What impresses me most about him is his attitude. He has a bit of Ricky about him where he has dragged his team at 19 to get points when the chips have been down. I think we need a few of those characters.
2-Troy Parrot at Spurs: he imo will be Irelands greatest ever striker if he develops as he has. Only 17 and 6 months left on his contract he has struggled for game time under Mourinho despite Pochettino really loving him. He is deadly and can assist also and is built like a 21 yr old. We are playing 2 up top and he would make the ideal fourth man for that role. We could even send him to the championship on loan as he wants to make the euros play off games and is already a senior international.
109 Posted 28/01/2020 at 16:07:38
As for Troy Parrott, he might well be Ireland's greatest ever striker in the future, but I think Tottenham consider that possible too. I don't think he would be prized from Tottenham's grasp for any figure you might consider reasonable. As for the lad himself, he might consider it a step down. Right now the pecking order at Tottenham has a gap at centre-forward, behind Kane. They even play Son upfront now he is injured. So, Parrott might see a clear path to the first team.
Here, he would have to compete with the similarly rated and even better, in my opinion, Lewis Dobbin, then the slightly older, Ellis Simms, and then Moise Kean and then Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison. The pathway is cluttered and I think we don't need a teenage striker, we already have 3, 4 if you include another Irishman, Tom Cannon.
Last season Troy Parrott scored 14 in 9 for Spurs u18. Ellis Simms socred 32 in 21 for Everton u18. This season our boy Simms has 7 goals in 12 games, with all 7 coming in his last 7 games. Troy Parrott has 10 goals in 8 games in various competitions and has played only 1 game at u23 PL2 level. But he's played 2 in the first team.
As for Jose Mourinho's stance on Parrott, read this: Link
I would wonder, if we had not signed Moise Kean, would Simms have made the first team now and would he have broken into our side? I think over the last two months he had an argument to get into first team training at the very least.
I should point out that Simms is about 12 months older than Parrott who in turn is 12 months older than Dobbin and 12 months older than Tom Cannon as well.
110 Posted 28/01/2020 at 16:27:02
I know you would have a greater appreciation of how good our youth are than me but this kid is special. He played in the summer for Spurs against Utd, Real Madrid and Juve and excelled despite playing against world class stars.
Spurs love him but Mourinho won't play him for at least 2 seasons. He has only 6 months left on his contract and they are effectively trying to blackmail him into signing a new one because he is on the fringes of the Euro squad so needs games for McCarthy to pick him so they are forcing him to sign before he gets a loan.
He is two footed, his hold up play is superb and he is great technically as well as being a decent finisher. He can play as a 10 or a 9. We may not need him but for me he could be a gem.
111 Posted 28/01/2020 at 16:45:25
Dobbin (Stoke lad) looks very special to me. What about Tom Cannon? No buzz on your side of the Irish Sea about him? Maybe because he's actually a Liverpool lad, he's not quite on the Irish radar? He's scored 11 in 9 games so far this season. He's also had (at the age of 16) 2 caps for Ireland u19, so I expected some noise your side about him. If he's too come good, you'll be desperate to cap him before he switches allegiance to England, the country of his birth.
112 Posted 28/01/2020 at 17:05:47
I agree with you about Antonee Robinson. I could never understand why we let him go.
113 Posted 28/01/2020 at 17:12:28
He is a fine player, I will agree with you on that. But in my eyes he has not maintained the standards he displayed in his debut season (in which, as you also mention, he also had some exceedingly bad games).
I also thought he was the lucky recipient of the supporters' player of the season award last season. For me, there was one runaway candidate for that, Idrissa Gueye.
Digne's defending certainly hasn't improved this season. He is still found out of position at times and in trying to recover the ball coughs up cheap free kicks around our penalty area. More robust forwards shrug him off and pacier forwards skin him either side.
His attacking prowess has waned somewhat and one of his standout qualities - his dead ball delivery from free kicks and corners - have got dramatically worse.
But he really wasn't the focus of my earlier post. That was Leighton Baines who again I agree needs to be let go and a younger man drafted in, for without LB we are otherwise very scant at LB.
114 Posted 28/01/2020 at 17:26:40
There are players who are getting games at PL like Obafemi who has struggled to get in the U21's and that is just totally unprecedented,normally this standard would make you a regular in the senior side. Parrott gets the attention because he is different gravy to what is a golden generation.
Cannon is doing well but I didn't realise he was so young. He helped the U19's qualify and scored one of thirteen against Gibraltar but they are also a great group for us so there hasn't been a special buzz around him. The English born thing won't be a factor because Grealish we always knew would be a superstar and as soon as he played his first game at 17 we were aware of him especially as there was a dearth of talent at that time.
115 Posted 28/01/2020 at 17:58:54
Also, what do you reckon? For me he was always the mascherano type for Napoli whilst Jorginho was the Alonso type. Reminds me a lot of Gueye too, only a bit more about him with the ball.
What about yourself? Do you rate the lad? And whys he never really had a look in for Brazil?
116 Posted 28/01/2020 at 18:34:12
Didn't do much before joining Udinese in his early 20s - a low profile team before joining Napoli 3-4 seasons ago.
And when you have the outstanding and younger Casimiro (albeit his star is waning a tad) playing your position for Real Madrid and Brazil, you're not going to get much of a look in.
It really is only in the last 12 months he has had a few sub appearances with Brazil, but not to a notable degree. The younger Arthur (of Barcelona) is cementing himself more into the Brazilian team, albeit that their playing styles are very different.
Watch out for our (alleged) one-time target the just-turned 18-year-old Renier Jesus who has now joined Real Madrid to make the breakthrough at club and country in the next couple of years.
He did very well in his handful of senior appearances for the all-conquering Flamengo last season. If he continues his development, he really could be the next ZZ or Kaka. Jorge Jesus was livid the club sold him so 'cheaply' and easily.
In other news, today Gabigol himself hinted strongly he will make his loan deal to Flamengo from Inter Milan permanent. See this video with his narration.
117 Posted 28/01/2020 at 20:47:02
Inter need the cash, probably. How can they sign Christian Erikson, Victor Moses and Ashley Young in the same season? Bizarre.
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