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Everton want to extend Sidibé loan deal

| Friday, 05 June 2020 65comments  |  Jump to last

UPDATED A report in The Guardian claims that Everton want to extend Djibril Sidibé's loan deal through the restarted Premier League season.

Agreement will have to be reached with his parent club, AC Manaco, who have no need of him as their Ligue 1 season has been terminated. They would need to agree terms on extending the current loan arrangement through the end of July.

The 27-year-old Frenchman joined Everton on a season-long loan back in August 2019 and has played 24 times in League and Cup competitions without making much of a lasting impression.

However, with injuries and a general lack of quality in the squad, Ancelotti has little alternative but to stick with what he has available to get through the last 9 games of this blighted Premier League season.

Everton had negotiated a clause to buy the World Cup winning full-back for around £12.8m, when securing his loan last summer, but the club have allowed that option to lapse. They had until June 1 but have apparently decided not to sign Sidibé permanently.

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Richard Duff
1 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:20:38
Makes sense to keep him for the last 9 games but, being realistic, he hasn't done enough to become our first-choice right-back so should be replaced if possible. For every great cross and assist there's been bad positioning and an assist the other way!
David Connor
2 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:43:13
Forget another loan spell. He's crap. His passing is woeful and his defending against any player with pace is non-existent, as he showed in the last game against Chelsea.

Just get Kenny back. He is no worse and won't cost us a penny. Unless we can get stupid money for him, which I highly doubt.

Robert Tressell
3 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:44:58
I did wonder whether our apparent focus on bringing in a left-footed centre-half, if it means we might go 5-3-2 for the new season. Might play well to Sidibé's strengths and allow Sigurdsson to occupy his old, productive role as well as keeping Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin as a very productive front two. Certainly Sidibé is a good crosser and reliable assist-maker. Digne too on the left.
James Flynn
4 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:15:26
Sam Hoare
5 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:32:50
Chelsea buying Werner and Ziyech for £80m really shows how hard it is going to be to crack into top 4 any time soon.

And I expect Man Utd to spend some serious money again this summer. Along with Man City potentially.

A real shame that our initial spending spree under Moshiri was so poorly directed.

Robert Tressell
6 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:52:53
Yes, Ziyech and Werner certainly add a lot of quality to Chelsea's already deep and talented squad. We are miles off that. Would love Ziyech at Everton.
Sam Hoare
7 Posted 05/06/2020 at 14:32:35
And United could quite feasibly get Sancho, Havertz and Bellingham.

We may have more money these days but we're still buying from a different calibre of shop.

Joe McMahon
8 Posted 05/06/2020 at 14:43:47
It's harder to gate crash the top 4 now. Leicester ahead of us now. Somehow this needs to happen as the players we want to attract understandably want Champions League football. Having a high profile and respected manager helps, but shopping for the players the teams above us don't want, it's always gonna be tough. Kings Dock falling through IMO has done the main damage.
Andrew Bentley
9 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:15:45
Makes sense to keep him until the season closes but we shouldn't waste our money on him. Great attacking and a good provider but a woeful defender.

I got sick of him costing us goals in the last 10 min of matches where he went down and faked an injury, didn't get the free kick and left a huge space for the opposition to exploit.

Always flattered to deceive.

Bill Gall
10 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:42:20
With all the talk on transfers, it will be interesting to see who or if we bring in a quality midfielder and a right-back.

We have been quoted to bringing in a number of top players, but it seems that it is not a question of: Will they come? But the question is, Will they want to come?

Sky Sports are getting their wish of having an elite 6 who players want to join, and the rest of the other clubs getting the pick of the players they do not want.

Martin Berry
11 Posted 05/06/2020 at 16:55:18
I think this is good business the lad has ability but, like many, found the Premier League a learning curve but he will get there.

As for postings about Chelsea and their transfers, you can get your money on them winning the Premier League in the next few seasons: they are looking so strong with a squad of excellent young players.

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 05/06/2020 at 17:57:22
Undoubtedly this is Carlo's call -- when both Sidibe and Coleman were available, he has picked Sidibe every time but one. There's plenty of talent there -- one of the best tacklers in the Prem and our best crosser of the ball. And with little at stake in these 9 games, there's no downside in giving Carlo more time to work with him on his crappy positioning.

Robert's right, he might work out very well in a 5-3-2.

And Robert, with you on Ziyech. I wailed like a beagle puppy when we signed Klaassen off Ajax instead of Ziyech, a vastly superior player we could have had for the same price.

Nick Swallow
13 Posted 05/06/2020 at 18:42:57
Would be great if he wasn't completley shite
Ray Said
14 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:08:18
I don't see what choice the club had. We need cover and can't afford to be short for what's left of the season. Don't forget, it's just short of 25% of the season left to play with millions at stake for each place higher we finish.

The manager would look a complete dick if we cut short the loan and Coleman gets injured. That said, once this season is over, we should not take any option to buy him.

Christy Ring
15 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:26:06
I must be missing something, one of the best tacklers in the Premier League, and our best crosser? He's a full back, who can't defend, ball watching, good going forward, but never sees the attacker in behind him, until it's too late, so who does he tackle, the invisible man.
James Flynn
16 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:31:38
Christy (15) - "I must be missing something, one of the best tacklers in the Premier League, and our best crosser?"

You're not. Others are.

John Keating
17 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:37:54
The rest of the season is a joke. Once our neighbours clinch the title they'll play their youngsters. Those teams fighting relegation will go all out.

As for us, best to see if a couple of our youngsters can step up by giving them a few games on the run. As for Sidibé, send him back, don't waste any more money.

Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:42:04
Christy, he leads the Premier League in tackles per 90 minutes. Overall he's 6th in the league with 78 -- despite missing the first seven games of the season -- and has only 23 fouls, less than one foul for every three tackles, which is astonishingly efficient. (Gana, for example, averaged almost a foul for every two.) So yes, Sidibé is an outstanding tackler.

Obviously it doesn't make him a good defender, but it certainly speaks to his talent. And it helps explain why Carlo keeps picking him over Seamus, despite his positional cluelessness.

As to his being our best crosser, that's pretty obvious.

Tony Everan
19 Posted 05/06/2020 at 20:50:31
We will need him for another month to have some backup in the squad. But after that no, I don’t want us to sign him. He is not a right back, he is a wing back and we don’t play that way. He has really good crossing ability but it is inconsistent, some games he doesn’t provide his offensive attributes and his defensive ones are limited.

He is too much of a wanderer for me as a defender. I don’t think the rest of the back line can trust him and that makes the whole team nervous. To get to the top 6 there can be no weakest links and let’s face it Sidibie is one. We need a proper, class, disciplined right back to take over from Seamus. It’s one of the essential signings we have to make.

Christy Ring
20 Posted 05/06/2020 at 21:40:17
Mike, impressed with your stats. Most of his tackles were probably made further up the field, definitely not in defence. A full back's number one priority is to defend, which he definitely can't do, but we all have different opinions on this forum.
Peter Thistle
21 Posted 05/06/2020 at 21:56:58
So we keep the rubbish player and don't improve...

What's new?

Peter Mills
22 Posted 05/06/2020 at 22:21:10
Michael #18, so much for stats but, whenever I watch him in a back four, I think he's very poor. Shite, in fact.

He may be better as a wing-back. So the manager needs to decide: back 4 or 5.

Paul Birmingham
23 Posted 05/06/2020 at 22:39:42
It's difficult to transcend the general gloom regards the health of the world, and football. Really tough times.

It's a tough call; for me, he's been sussed and done more than most backs, but in some games he's had no cover from midfield but is also exposed on recovery and reading the game.

But, as the return beckons and with Everton's now annual bad injury bouts to key players impacting squad availability, the manager is damned if he does or doesn't.

On a cheap deal, he'd be a good squad addition but only a few million on the basis of no strings and £4m tops outlay.

You could argue for the RS, that TAA is also not really a true defender, as we know he's also been sussed and done, and got away with handballs more than most backs.

Very strange days for the world.

All stay safe and well.

Jerome Shields
24 Posted 05/06/2020 at 22:50:06
Interesting stats regarding Sidebé's tackling. He crosses the ball early and accurately, while others cross and more often than not the intended target is marked up.

He does get caught out of position, but maybe Ancelotti can coach him to be more aware. It could be his commitment to tackling is leaving him exposed. A good loan for another season.

It very much looks as if transfers are following a similar pattern to the past two summer transfer windows: work with what you have got as regards in and outs and money made available at the end of the window, hopefully.

Robert Tressell
25 Posted 05/06/2020 at 22:55:34
Sidibé isn't terrible. He's good at some things and weak at others. The problem is that the whole right flank is weak at the moment. I'd like us to focus on recruiting a left-footed right-winger / playmaker.

A player like that would stop opposition full-backs from overloading our right flank and exposing our right-back.

If we also bring in a proper, mobile midfield shield (like Gbamin was supposed to be) then that covers Sidibé's weakness defensively too (or Kenny's for that matter). He looked at his best with Fabinho covering at right-back when they were together at Monaco.

Two quality signings in those positions could transform the first 11 (whether we retain Sidibé or not).

Jay Harris
26 Posted 05/06/2020 at 00:04:25
Thought he looked pretty decent early doors and most were raving about his quality especially crosses upfield.

He seemed to have a wobble in form, especially defensively, when we kept changing right wingers: Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison, Walcott, Sigurdsson and Coleman at one point.

After that, he seemed to lose his way a bit but, if he finds his early form again, he is worth it as a backup to the squad. I don't see Jonjoe Kenny coming back anytime soon and Seamus is way past his best.

I would rather spend all available funds on some class, grit and goals in midfield.

Mike Gaynes
27 Posted 06/06/2020 at 00:27:15
Christy #20, very possible, although I've seen both him and Mina make a couple of exceptional saving tackles in defense this season.

Fact is, though, the only opinion that really matters is Carlo's, and he clearly considers Sidibé our best right-back.

That's why I'm not surprised we've extended the loan, and unless Brands really feels like shopping for a new right-back amidst all our other priorities, I won't be surprised if we exercise Sidibé's purchase option, or at least try to renegotiate it.

Mark Andersson
28 Posted 06/06/2020 at 03:47:08
Will anything really change... the rebuilding job?? Carlo has is hands tied behind his back. As others have pointed out, the top 4 get the pick of the crop. Carlo has a brilliant CV but it's not enough to attract the top players.

We need a masive slice of luck to unearth a few gems keep them long enough to win a trophy and get a top 4 place – only then will we attract top ready made players...

But there lays the problem: we have more bad luck than good...

[This coming from a man whose glass is half-full.]

Ajay Gopal
29 Posted 06/06/2020 at 04:00:54
Makes sense to have him extend his loan for the rest of the season. The big decision for Carlo will be: Does he let Sidibé go after the loan or bring back Kenny from Schalke? He has 9 games to make that decision.

My preference would be to get back Kenny with him and Coleman fighting for the starting spot. We always have Holgate to fall back on if there is an injury or suspension crisis.

Everton's main targets this transfer window appear to be:

Centre-back (with either Keane or Mina being sold)
2 Midfield players (maybe letting go of Besic and one of Sigurdsson or Schneiderlin)
1 Forward (sending out Kean or Tosun)

That's it, but if only 2 out of these 4 signings turn out to be ‘game-changers', with 1-2 of our youth stepping up (like what happened with Calvert-Lewin and Holgate this season), that would push us into contention for Top 6.

Jim Harrison
30 Posted 06/06/2020 at 04:52:03
If we had a player like Gana in the team who would cover him going forwards, we would be alright.
Derek Thomas
31 Posted 06/06/2020 at 07:16:02
You can't even trust him to put his socks on, nevermind put a shift in... but, like Baines, who else is there? [Looks at Academy...]
Sam Hoare
32 Posted 06/06/2020 at 07:33:16
Mike @18; there was a good piece on Sidibé a few months back highlighting how his tackle stats are very high because he often presses quite aggressively.

This means he is attempting and also making a lot more tackles than most full-backs. However, when he gets it wrong, it often leaves us very exposed because he has pushed out of the line. That is why we give up so many more chances from our right flank than from our left.

Essentially he's a good, aggressive tackler but his positioning and decision-making are quite high risk.

If he was in his early 20s I'd be hopeful that this could be corrected but it seems unlikely at almost 28.

A better, more mobile DMC could help mitigate his shortcomings and currently I think he's a better option than Coleman and Kenny but the latter has youth on his side and, perhaps more importantly, Schalke don't have the funds to buy him.

Unless Monaco will take £5-6M for Sidibé, I expect Kenny and Coleman to be our senior right-backs next season. I also expect it to become a priority transfer position next summer; none of the three are top 6 standard.

Steve Brown
33 Posted 06/06/2020 at 09:32:51
Sam @ 32,

If we buy back Gana, then he will be able to provide cover for Sidibé. Let's try for Stones as well.

Joe McMahon
34 Posted 06/06/2020 at 09:38:10
Steve, I don't want Stones back. He was never that good anyway. We may as well bid for Joe Hart and Peter Crouch as well.
Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 06/06/2020 at 11:42:24
Some very good points there Sam @32. I've said a few times that I'd have tried Sidibé in a central midfield role, especially because as you state, we lack speed, aggression and mobility in this area of the pitch.
Pat Kelly
36 Posted 06/06/2020 at 14:08:34
Sidibé and Baines as well! It'll be like two new signings.
Steve Brown
37 Posted 06/06/2020 at 14:25:10
Joe @ 34, he's 26 not 36!
Jay Harris
38 Posted 06/06/2020 at 20:16:40
Stones is where he should be: Man City reserves... and long may he stay there.
Robert Tressell
39 Posted 06/06/2020 at 21:27:43
Tony @ 35 it's the lack of speed and aggression in midfield that has exposed Sidibé's weakness. At Monaco, he had Fabinho and Bakayoko providing cover and pressing aggressively. At Everton, there's none of that. So when he presses aggressively up the pitch he's on his own. Hence getting caught out and leaving us open to the counter.

If we can (as we surely must) improve the midfield, then it might help to draw out Sidibé's strengths and make up for his weakness.

Also, notice we are strongly linked with Marusic of Lazio. A very fast right wing-back – possible alternative to Sidibé. And possibly hints (as I mentioned in an earlier post) that we'll be going 5-3-2 next season. Marusic doesn't look to me like he could play as an orthodox right-back.

However we approach next season, I'll be pleased to see more pace and aggression throughout the side.

Tony Everan
40 Posted 07/06/2020 at 09:26:59
Robert, good points about the midfield, the laconic nature of our central players, the absence of a Gbamin or Gana is not complimentary at all to a player such as Sidibé.

With regards to the 3-5-2, maybe Carlo's thinking he has to be more expansive in his formations next season to get better point returns out of his squad. There will be matches were a compact 4-4-2 will suit and at home he may go a more offensive 3-5-2 with the attacking wing-backs. In such a scenario there would be an argument for Sidibé to be part of the squad at the right price. As cover for the 4-4-2 and as a wing-back in the 3-5-2.

Robert Tressell
41 Posted 07/06/2020 at 12:01:12
I'm not generally a fan of 5-3-2 because it's usually done badly in England – ie, just by sticking an extra centre-half at the back and moving limited full-backs higher up the pitch.

Done right, however, it can, like any formation, be good. If Brands can find a Mattias Sammer out there to make it work, I'll be fine with that.

Tom Bowers
42 Posted 07/06/2020 at 12:37:20
No matter what formation you have, it only works with the right quality players. I believe if you have an abundance of quality attackers, you can win most games as long as those at the back do their jobs. Have to say, unfortunately, the RS are the epitome of that this season, if not last season.

When you have the right squad on the field, you can tweak the formation all you like and still be the winning team.

Carlo has the basis for a top team but needs some more quality in all areas.

Jerome Shields
43 Posted 07/06/2020 at 12:59:06
Tony #35,

It would be a good idea to play Sidibé in central midfield with the skill set he has. I have wondered why Ancelotti didn't try him, but maybe he has been seeing how he gets along being in front of Coleman on the right flank, having tried him there.

I also think that Sidibé is used to playing for sides who are good at holding possession and have high pass-completion rates in the final third. Everton are weak in both areas and give away the ball a lot; that leaves Sidibé exposed going forward.

As far as Ancelotti may be concerned, Sidibé getting caught out of position is not entirely his fault.

Robert Tressell
44 Posted 07/06/2020 at 13:41:29
It may be that Sidibé is one of the few who is (and is capable of) following orders to apply an aggressive press.

I read that the new management at AC Milan will build a team based on ability to regain possession within 5 seconds. That means physical attributes of pace plus mental attributes of quick decision-making. Some fan favourites may be ditched as a result.

Tony Everan
45 Posted 07/06/2020 at 18:28:48
“AC Milan building a team on the basis of winning back possession within 5 seconds “

It is a simple message to the players current and incoming. One that they can easily psychologically embrace as knowing what is expected of them. The idea may improve them.

It's an interesting statement by AC Milan and a simple one. All the great teams may have a bit of bling but they have tigerish engine rooms that are constantly rabid about winning back possession. Almost like it is a divine right. We need a whole lot more of it from our whole midfield engine room next season (and not just from the centre-midfield positions).

Peter Gorman
46 Posted 07/06/2020 at 19:49:47
Since this thread is about our man Sidibé I'm just going to add that I don't particularly think he is good enough to take us forward (despite his impressive credentials of being a French international), so the bargain fee seems a bit irrelevant.

I'll admit to also being impressed by those stats and his crossing is pretty great but we've all seen the lack of positioning and, sadly, heart at times.

That Sidibé has visibly wilted when the going was tough hardly makes him the villain of this current Everton squad but it does make him damaged goods as far as next season goes.

Tony McNulty
47 Posted 07/06/2020 at 20:28:01
He has often been very good going forward. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the principle talent a defender needs is the ability to defend.

I believe I have seen other sides targeting him as a weak link in our defence.

If he cannot do his main job at the required level, then that will always be an Achilles Heel for us.

Raymond Fox
48 Posted 07/06/2020 at 20:39:08
I'd extend his loan; he's not perfect – that's why he's here!

It should be a buyer's market in the summer, but we might be feeling the pinch money-wise, along with most other clubs.

Plenty will be wanting to reduce their wage bills.

Tom Bowers
49 Posted 07/06/2020 at 21:56:40
I'm not a fan generally of loan players but Everton have had one or two good ones over the years.

Sidibé has pedigree but is not Seamus in his prime and there is very little to choose between Sidibé and Jonjoe Kenny.

I hope the season is done with soon so that we can really see what Carlo can do next season, when he has the players he wants.

Everton have some players who are just not consistent enough and we all hope he has a clearout before next season starts.

Mike Gaynes
50 Posted 07/06/2020 at 22:43:25
Robert #41, Sammer?? Wow, you're reaching back 25 years for that one.
Robert Tressell
51 Posted 07/06/2020 at 23:05:41
I don't think I've ever seen a better sweeper in a 5-3-2 than Mattias Sammer. Hard as nails in defence, elegance and drive on the ball. So yes, if Brands can find one of those this summer, I will tolerate Sidibé at right-wingback.
Justin Doone
52 Posted 07/06/2020 at 23:55:34
I wish I could copy and paste a previous post but I can't so..

Djibril v Seamus – not much in it. Both attacking full-backs, good similar pace, supporting runs, energy, competitive nature.

Seamus better at dribbling, Djibril at crossing. Neither are great defenders: suspect control, average passing and both have poor decision-making.

Niether will improve much, if at all, but in Djibril's favour, he's a few years younger and can maybe adapt to the Premier League a little more.

Kenny would bring superior control, passing and crossing but he's not as attacking and a little slower than the above two. Like most young defenders, he still has to improve decision-making and positioning.

If we had a top class right-winger, Kenny would be able to learn and concentrate on his defending.

If we had a proper target man or forward with extreme pace Kenny could supply the passes and crosses into the danger area. Playing to his strengths.

But we don't and sadly I'm not sure if Carlo would be brave enough to play him without a change in personnel or attack-minded tactics.

Kenny would be great for Burnley, Newcastle or Leicester, to name a few. I'm expecting an £8 million sale but hope I'm wrong about that and about Carlo not playing attacking football.

Justin Doone
53 Posted 08/06/2020 at 00:20:36
As for Sidibé... Keep for this season and then it depends on the manager's tactics and transfer success.

Sidibé is good, we could and have got worse players but I'd give him a miss. Concentrate on buying attack-minded attackers and defensive-minded defenders. I'm old fashioned like that.

As for, "our best crosser" no chance. Kenny, Baines, Digne, Gomes, Holgate would be my top 5 crossers in that order. Admittedly they may not have been in the pitch much to date.

Players that generally get it on target or in the right general area more than 50% of the time are good. Sidibé has had some good assists, but generally his crossing is a 1 in 3 decent effort.

Tony Everan
54 Posted 08/06/2020 at 09:37:39
It's a bit ironic isn't it. We have 3 right-backs at the club and the best one, the youngest, who will also improve, doesn't play for us.

Jerome Shields
55 Posted 08/06/2020 at 17:20:39
Robert #44,

Thought you would be interested in Ancelotti's comments:

"We can play more vertically. We want to build up but when you have the possibility to play forward you must play forward. Quick. If you are slow at the back you have less possibility to find space in the opponent's half. Sometimes when you say to a player that we want possession, they think possession is the target. The target is not a possession. The target is always to score goals. ”

This would fall into line with the tactics you mention and Sidibé pushing forward with an early delivered pass.

I think I should also mention that Sidibé has won a World Cup medal.

Robert Tressell
56 Posted 09/06/2020 at 22:04:39
Thanks Jerome. That is interesting. Hopefully Brands can assemble a team capable of playing how Carlo wants.
David Midgley
57 Posted 09/06/2020 at 00:08:46
Mike, lots of stats.

In August 2019, the fertility rate of children given birth per woman England & Wales was 1.7.

Stats. Have you ever seen any of those kids?
I'd love to see the 0.7 one.
He's not up to it.

Michael Kenrick
58 Posted 11/06/2020 at 09:30:55
The Red Echo now saying that Everton had negotiated a clause to buy Sidibé for around £12.8m but the club have allowed that option to lapse. They had until June 1 but have apparently decided not to sign Sidibe permanently.
Robert Tressell
59 Posted 11/06/2020 at 09:47:52
The lapsing of the option may not indicate a lack of interest.

The club might believe it can now get Sidibe for a lower fee than the option price.

Alleged interest in Marusic of Lazio might be part of the associated shenanigans.

Interesting to see how the market unfolds this summer.

Geoff Williams
60 Posted 11/06/2020 at 10:38:06
He's not good enough.
Liam Reilly
61 Posted 12/06/2020 at 10:46:02
Not good enough. No other contender (assuming we are one) for the top 4 would even consider him.
Robert Tressell
62 Posted 12/06/2020 at 11:56:06
Liam unfortunately we are not a contender for the top 4 as things stand. There are 7 clubs with a better first 11 before you come on to squad depth. Ancelloti will be doing well if he can break top 6 next season. We need a strong transfer window relative to others for that.

A Sidibe standard right-back will be ok for immediate aspirations if we can sort out the priorities of midfield and right-wing. A centre-half wouldn't go amiss either.

Brian Murray
63 Posted 12/06/2020 at 12:44:57
Brands seems to have left his Midas touch in Holland and can’t even come up with a decent goalie or full backs to rival the cost set up at the moment.
Bobby Mallon
64 Posted 15/06/2020 at 20:47:06
Robert @62, we may not, as a team, be good enough to get in to the top 4, but that does not mean we can't shop for those type of players.

That's our problem: we always buy either crocks for silly high prices or players not good enough for the top 4. I can't think of one single player besides Richarlison who would get into any of Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, or Spurs. We need to start buying young hungry players and use our academy players.

Robert Tressell
65 Posted 15/06/2020 at 21:06:35
Bobby, I agree. In truth, I'm not too fussed about the right-back slot as I see it as a Summer 2021 issue. The real focus needs to be centre-midfield and right-wing. Fix that and our right-back will be less exposed defensively and have more options going forward.

Cast-offs from big clubs (eg, Zouma, Rabiot and Lozano), overperforming youngsters from middling clubs (eg, Diallo and Sangare), British teenagers (like Branthwaite), and maybe a bit of class on loan or free (eg, James Rodriguez and Thiago Silva) is the way to go.

If we do that and buy Sidibé on the cheap as a stop-gap, then fine.

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