The Mirror claim that Everton have made a £5m bid for Nathan Patterson, a young right-back from Glasgow Rangers.
The report posits that the 19-year-old Scot could be the long-term replacement for Seamus Coleman but it appears as though the Blues' opening offer won't be enough and that it could take double that to prise him away.
Indeed, Gers boss Steven Gerrard described the offer as "a joke".
Patterson was in Scotland's squad for Euro 2020 and regarded as a big emerging talent north of the Border but his opportunities at Ibrox are limited at the moment with captain James Tavernier ahead of him in the pecking order and, to date, he has only played 7 games in the Scottish Premiership.
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1 Posted 22/08/2021 at 12:24:10
2 Posted 22/08/2021 at 12:49:04
He went for as little as 15m euro's. That is not to say we could have got him for the said price.
I have never heard of Nathan Patterson, so can't comment. His age is a big plus though.
3 Posted 22/08/2021 at 13:21:19
That's not to say Seamus can't still do a job, but we need someone who can step in this season.
Swap for Kenny on the cards given his time in Glasgow last season?
4 Posted 22/08/2021 at 13:58:05
5 Posted 22/08/2021 at 14:00:55
6 Posted 22/08/2021 at 14:57:12
7 Posted 22/08/2021 at 15:07:11
We're not going to compete this season whatever we do, so let's at least use it as a platform for much better things.
8 Posted 22/08/2021 at 16:22:52
9 Posted 22/08/2021 at 17:06:20
10 Posted 22/08/2021 at 17:22:38
11 Posted 22/08/2021 at 17:38:00
12 Posted 22/08/2021 at 17:59:54
13 Posted 22/08/2021 at 18:17:10
14 Posted 22/08/2021 at 18:32:58
So long as we bring in some new right back who has energy and pace to get up and down the line Ill be happy.
15 Posted 22/08/2021 at 18:52:43
Phoned a few relations and friends up there
Nobodys seen much of the guy
Tavernier is first choice so this lad, unless theres an injury wont get a look in
Very surprised as Seamus is getting found out a bit now we are not getting an experienced guy in
5 million for an unknown seems a lot but maybe our scouts have seen something
16 Posted 22/08/2021 at 18:58:09
17 Posted 22/08/2021 at 19:49:32
18 Posted 22/08/2021 at 21:53:35
Interesting story today concerning James. Some reports that Newcastle want him. At face value, it sounds pretty far-fetched but, then again, if we want Longstaff, a swap would navigate the fee we want and It would be up to Newcastle to pay his wages... Stranger things have happened.
19 Posted 22/08/2021 at 22:43:17
20 Posted 23/08/2021 at 06:06:15
Yet they may spend £5M to £10M on an inexperienced, unknown right-back who can't break into his team? If true, it would show once again the incompetence of the decision-makers at the club.
21 Posted 23/08/2021 at 06:26:49
I always believed that Beni was criminally under-utilised by Ancelotti. I know it is very early days, but I hope the young fellow goes on to have a sterling career. And more relevantly, I hope that Everton have inserted a sell-on percentage clause or a 'buy-back' option.
22 Posted 23/08/2021 at 06:28:58
The reaction of their novice manager seems to show a degree of small-mindedness and perhaps Mr Benitez might throw in a few lessons on practicality.
23 Posted 23/08/2021 at 07:01:49
I truly hope Beni continues to hoover up MotM awards north of the border, but would that leave copious amounts of egg dripping off the aforementioned's chins? I doubt it!
24 Posted 23/08/2021 at 07:24:57
25 Posted 23/08/2021 at 07:26:56
Personally I would be delighted if we got him. I believe he would very soon become our first-choice right-back. Even though he would be replacing our own club captain.
26 Posted 23/08/2021 at 08:02:39
I can only assume the player fancied Inter & not Everton, because I would not like to think that if we can find £5M for a 19-year-old with potential, we couldn't somehow squeeze or generate an additional £8M for an established and proven international, who at 25 still has room to develop himself.
As always, this is all speculation. Going to be an interesting week!
27 Posted 23/08/2021 at 08:24:32
I agree all would have been superb signings; however, we didn't get them. The grinning buffoon instead brought three No 10s for £100M and no striker. One of those was our record signing whose career and reputation is in tatters.
Can't blame Walsh for that admittedly but I do blame him and Koeman for a great deal; that splurge of cash set us back so so far, we spent the next years just trying to accommodate square pegs in round holes.
I like the sound of this Patterson lad though agree with others, if we can find £10M for him (which sounds like what it will take according to Gerrard's comments) why not an extra £5M for a regular international.
28 Posted 23/08/2021 at 09:27:37
Let's not forget that he went to Inter Milan, champions of Italy and in the CL, even if we had matched or exceeded their bid for him I reckon we can guess what his preference would have been.
Plus he's not quite as good as he seemed in the Euros (though I do like him). As long as we end up with a new RB with pace and energy I'll be content enough.
29 Posted 23/08/2021 at 09:38:46
As for Beni, I watched the Hearts v Aberdeen game yesterday, and he was great. Got about all over the pitch and rarely lost the ball. Strong and composed for a youngster. Competed easily in the midfield against the far more experienced Lewis Ferguson and Scott Brown.
30 Posted 23/08/2021 at 09:39:47
All speculation, all rumour. None of us actually know!
31 Posted 23/08/2021 at 10:00:27
32 Posted 23/08/2021 at 10:37:16
But now several Everton managers and two large European clubs in the case of Jonjoe Kenny, have taken a look and thought No.
I'd say we are probably going to have to release to lower league clubs without getting much for them and let them rebuild their careers.
I did think Jonjoe might have cut it in Scotland though.
33 Posted 23/08/2021 at 10:53:18
34 Posted 23/08/2021 at 11:06:04
35 Posted 23/08/2021 at 11:16:30
I only watched him once for Celtic and inevitably it was when he had a bit of a stinker and cocked up leading to a goal conceded!!
I saw him a bit at Schalke and he done okay. He was actually quite popular and yes, you're right, that was in a poor team. I believe they did enquire, but either hadn't seen enough or didn't rate him to the valuation. Probably a combination of both.
His time there reinforced what I've tended to see of him. Committed player and decent defender, but a bit of a headless chicken which leads to poor positional awareness at times, which proves costly.
In his defence, that could have been tactics and how he was being instructed. Still livid at Allardyce for the rant he had at JonJoe at the Emirates. Because he followed the manager's instructions.
36 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:02:11
Is it because we just recruit/develop sub-standard players? Or sign them on wages that make moving prohibitive? Or is the decision making poor?
This summer alone we've let go Bolasie, Walcott, Bernard, King and Besic for nothing. Last year we we sold Schneiderlin, Dowell, Garbutt and Sandro for a total of £4m.
Yes, none of those players set the world alight but then neither did Shaqiri, who Liverpool have just sold for £11m.
37 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:35:10
Forget this kid. Forget any Rangers players and, fuck stevie me larrr!!
38 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:41:18
Colin, he is reported saying our offer was a joke. In any case he won't have the final say. Then again he may also have a bee in his bonnet what with our fans singing 'the babys not yours' which was very classy.
39 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:43:57
I'd partly agree with all of your points. Recruitment and development has been sub-standard hence being where we are. Poor judgement and decision making; yes.
But then Liverpool can sell an enigma like Shaqiri for that price.
That comes down to brand. They have their brand. Clubs think that even if it's a cast off, it must be good. It's a bit like those who are obsessed at shopping at designer shops even though you can get an equally good bargain elsewhere. To buy from those clubs, you pay a premium, even for those they don't want.
Apart from Everton. In recent years, we've paid a premium to anyone who wants to sell to us!!
40 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:48:13
None of our squad players could, or would do that.
So while Liverpool do seem to get more for fringe players and youths, in general it can be argued that that's cause they are of a better standard.
We struggle to get rid of our players cause no-one wants cast offs from a team that finishes 10th.
41 Posted 23/08/2021 at 12:50:50
Totally agree mate, but personally I think it's a bit of both, yes we seem to have been crap at playing hardball in negotiations, like a Car Boot Seller who is in the dying embers of the sale, and doesn't want to take the stuff back home. " Yeah, go on mate you can have it for a £1 (on something he wouldn't have taken less than a tenner for at the start) " Also think the Media's darlings RS and Manure get hiked up prices because of who they are, promoted by the likes of Sky etc. You can hear the Commentators on a Match involving either of the usual suspects, audibly raising their voices when eithers' player is on the ball, whereas if the opposition do something spectacular it hardly merits a mention. No wonder we detest them and No, it's not through jealousy, just misplaced and unwarranted sycophancy.
The ridiculous contracts offered to some of our very mediocre players doesn't help either, and who is readily going to take a wage cut? I wasn't totally in favour of Benitez becoming manager and I expressed so on here, I will on evidence thus far eat my words and am slowly warming to him. I like the way he doesn't take any shit, so let's hope he has more say in the negotiations of future signings, and also in identifying bargains that are not necessarily big names.
42 Posted 23/08/2021 at 14:30:00
Annika the only people who know much about this lad are the Rangers staff.
Yesterday and this morning I spoke to a few Rangers season ticket holders I know and they don't know much about him either!
Think he played a couple of games last season.
Seamus is struggling these days and we need - and have needed for a couple of years - someone to come in right now, not another youngster with possible potential.
JJK had a really good first game for Celtic and got rave reviews. Sadly from there on it went South for him.
I think it didn't help that Celtic were crap last season and toiled most games. All the players got stick from the support especially having to watch Rangers walk it.
43 Posted 23/08/2021 at 16:02:48
Like you and everyone else on the outside looking in, I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the Club; particularly that Window.
Rooney, Siggy, Bolasie, Williams, etc. Mirallas' new 3-year contract with a hefty pay raise, just shy of his 29th birthday? Nah. I'd wager Walsh had zero to do with those. Especially not the money. First, just like Brands now, it wasn't his money. The exorbitant fees are on one, and only one, Moshiri. Second, whatever anyone thinks of those players, they were established Prem pros.
I do not think signing established players was Walsh's remit. McGuire, Robertson, Haaland? Those types were who he was brought in to find. Good, young talent at low prices. Gana, Vlasic. Lookman, Gibson.
I'd certainly place Sandro at Walsh's doorstep. 21 years old, scoring 17 goals in a strong, tough league. Since, has he even scored a total of 10?
Wouldn't surprise if Walsh had input on the Klaassen signing.
A 23-year old skilled, intelligent, attacking mid who captained Ajax to a Europa final? Why not? Like Sandro, slower than molasses, not and never EPL-ready.
Anyway, what's done was done and we're still feeling the effects. Mostly bad. Me, pure speculation, I believe that Moshiri came in feeling, "How hard can this be? I got plenty of money." And tried his own hand at signing players.
Something was wrong and, if assigning blame (which I consider a waste of time and counter-productive in all things), I'd have Walsh down the list.
44 Posted 23/08/2021 at 16:26:16
But fear not. Rafa is here and he's tough.
45 Posted 23/08/2021 at 16:43:33
There have been some very good options, we seem to have avoided the like the plague
46 Posted 23/08/2021 at 17:51:15
Aside from the fact its difficult to see why a player would choose Everton (now) over the Italian Champions and CL football, I imagine if Patterson were to come to us, hed be on significantly lower wages than Dumfries would have been, which may have put the Dumfries signing out of reach anyway.
One of the reasons City could sign Grealish is because they got Aguero off their wage bill ….
47 Posted 23/08/2021 at 18:12:17
I would have Zouma and Godfrey as our CB's in a heart beat so that we don't have to play so deep...
48 Posted 23/08/2021 at 18:19:09
49 Posted 23/08/2021 at 18:29:44
A streetwise defender with a touch of class
50 Posted 23/08/2021 at 18:31:14
He's been at Everton since a kid. Even a £3-4 million fee would be all profit. Two loans, two different leagues, no bites. Even to get him off the books this his last season, another club won't pay off his under a million wages.
Nothing against him for me. Even Allardyce heaped some nice praise on Kenny for being such an intelligent, serious, hard-working pro for a 20-year-old. He's not Besic-level (Who was on higher wages). Just not a big leaguer.
51 Posted 23/08/2021 at 18:37:21
52 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:02:03
Are you saying Christensen is a bad player then? If we get paid a combined £25 mil for Holgate and Keane l'd take it to get Zouma back. Of course that would take another couple windows so it wont happen. I don't know many better CBs for £25 mil. Of course we need players in other areas first.
I'm thinking Moshiri watched Brewsters Millions before he took over at Everton.
If Zouma goes to West Ham he will improve them agagain. Its what Moyes does
53 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:03:27
54 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:16:18
Keane only looks good when defending in a deep block, same as Mina and I dont believe Holgate is a CB.
Having Zouma allows us to push higher up the pitch and any balls in behind can be mopped up by him or Godfrey given their pace
I personally believe if we can start to defend higher up the pitch, we will improve the balance in the team and not concede possession to average teams.
Arsenal paid £50m for White so Zouma for half that can only be good business in todays market.
55 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:24:20
Maguire is still to me a more expensive version of Michael Keane. He makes Keane look like a bargain.
Despite the recent history, I would so have taken Van Djke when we were linked with him when he was at Southampton.
56 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:34:44
And Maguire or Keane isn't a contest, come on.
Si, Arsenal paying £50M for White. No wonder they have fallen. I mean l still cant get over the 350grand a week Ozil contract
57 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:46:15
He never gave anything more away, except to say that signing players nowadays is very difficult, for a multitude of reasons, and whilst I just listened, the thing that will amaze me, is how many players will swap clubs next Tuesday!
58 Posted 23/08/2021 at 19:49:18
David #52, Christensen is a good player. He is no superstar. He is much slower than Zouma and not as strong in the air, yet he consistently kept Zouma on Chelski's bench. There's a reason for that. And the reason is Zouma's ill-timed errors. Christensen is reliable. Rudiger is reliable. Zouma isn't.
And David #56, agreed on Ben White. Someday he may be worth that kind of money. He sure as hell isn't now.
59 Posted 23/08/2021 at 20:05:00
It all goes back to how we like to see the game played, with my own view being that the most important position, is a players starting position, and when we stop being compact, starting positions all over the park become distorted, and then we start to become very easy to play against.
60 Posted 23/08/2021 at 20:27:29
While for Patterson, he'll be in a similar situation to where he is now, playing behind the club captain. But he'll be on a lot more money, learning from a fantastic pro in a far superior league. He also has the opportunity to be slowly bedded into the team with probably the goal of him being the starting RB next season.
61 Posted 23/08/2021 at 20:52:49
62 Posted 24/08/2021 at 08:18:51
63 Posted 24/08/2021 at 10:08:21
64 Posted 24/08/2021 at 10:34:54
65 Posted 24/08/2021 at 11:14:06
Its half a million short of what we paid them for Jelavic who was one of their leagues leading scorers and an established international.
Gerrard is acting like a bell end with that comment.
66 Posted 24/08/2021 at 11:27:56
No disrespect to our Scottish cousins and north of the border blues, but it's not like the Scottish league is what it was when the English used to raid it in the 70s and 80s.
67 Posted 24/08/2021 at 11:29:41
68 Posted 24/08/2021 at 12:43:07
69 Posted 24/08/2021 at 15:28:44
70 Posted 24/08/2021 at 15:52:01
Incidentally Brighton took another right back - Tariq Lamptey - from Chelsea (for £3 million) about 18 months ago. That's quite some conveyor belt of promising young right backs that Chelsea have. They also have the injury-plagued Dujon Sterling who was previously tipped for great things.
71 Posted 26/08/2021 at 16:21:33
Probably can't compete with not being able to offer Champions League football.
72 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:04:29
The issue will be whether Rangers need the money (possibly but understandably being difficult about price) and whether Patterson wants to stay in what I think is his boyhood side.
Like others I think £5M is a decent bid in the circumstances. There will be other options.
73 Posted 30/08/2021 at 08:07:46
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